Seems like murder really does pay!

Craig

I am really surprised you didn’t know about this months ago.There has been a campaign on for Blair to become EU President and trading going on amongst leaders off EU countries for this to be so.The USA is all for it.Sarkozy was against it at first but now seems to be supporting Blair to be EU President…

http://tinyurl.com/ckbmog

Don’t hold your breath that the tories will try and stop Blair they think he is great,always have.Many in the tory party think he is the best leader they never had.

Now we know why preparations are being made for catholics to become the British monarch.

One day he’ll ask to be Pope. The fisherman will throw the magic turbot back in the sea and he will go back to nothing again.

George

What is new is that the British government is now officially supporting and lobbying for the idea. They weren’t before – indeed many thought Brown would veto it. Having to sit in meetings chaired by Blair again! But Gordon has now, after long delay, given the go-ahead for the official lobbying to start. Of course there has been a great deal of behind the scenes stuff before.

Brown was in fact the only person who had a definite veto, as the EU would not suppoer a candidate without the support of his own government.

Blair is a neo-con, of course. But the admiration for him among Tories is by no means universal, and they remain pretty tribal.

Craig

As George Dutton says, this is old news.

The only consolation is that the Irish may well vote “no” again to the Lisbon treaty. I certainly hope so, and that the prospect of President Blair helps them do so!

I also hope the Tories will make it clear he’d be unacceptable as a candidate, but fear George is right on that too.

We are all being treated with contempt, as ever, by the ruling clique.

Look at what’s happening over Turkey and EU membership. Turkey should never be allowed even to be a candidate to join the EU, not because it’s Muslim but because only a tiny part of it is in Europe. Its eastern border is 300 miles east of Moscow. Morocco has a better claim to join, as it is much closer and has a border with the EU (Ceuta and Melilla).

Craig

If Gordon Brown is really supporting Blair, presumably this can only mean that he now accepts that he’s not going to be around as PM when Blair is in position!

I wonder what sinecure is being prepared for Gordon, after June next year?

Auntie Beeb has received her marching orders, too. On Radio 3 later this week, Joan Bakewell’s silly radio programme, ‘Belief’, will feature Blair, ‘who was a committed Christian throughout his premiership’, according to the blurb.

And this morning I got to hear the execrable Cheri Blair on Radio 4 pratting on about something or other.

They’re like the goddamn Clintons; we can’t get rid of them.

‘It’s simply an appalling thought.’

I’d go further: it’s the very stuff of nightmares.

If this comes to pass, I too shall be signing the Craig Murray Get-Us-Out-Now! pledge.

Quite apart from the destruction of the democratic process and all the off-stage fancy footwork, disturbing yet credible rumours of TB’s emperor’s-new-clothes grasp on reality are beginning to circulate in the mainstream media.

This has all the hallmarks of a most monumental – epic even – cock up. Guaranteed tenure for generations of historians to pick over the bones of whatever’s left of Europe and its once wonderful plethora of exuberant cultures.

Craig I did a wee post on the article in the Independent early this morning. I had no idea the ‘upping’ of his fight had rolled out as far the embassies. Hope you don’t mind if I put an update note referring my readers to you here.

There’s a credible online petition against Blair’s candidacy that’s been running for over 12 months now – 27,600 sigs to date – more needed: http://tinyurl.com/38hqej

Plus very apt flag image that sums the whole thing up here: http://tinyurl.com/dbjvdz

Craig

Yoy may (or may not) have noticed that I have pretty much given up posting comments here. That’s because whenever a url is included, the comment is held for moderation and, as often as not, doesn’t appear at all. I had tried to post the url

This time I tried to post the url for a credible petition against his candidacy that already has over 27,000 signatures but, unless the comment is successfully ‘moderated’ you’ll have to find it yourselves.

Also it is surely not beyond the wit of whoever does your techie stuff to enable PROPER url’s for registered users.

“What is new is that the British government is now officially supporting and lobbying for the idea. They weren’t before”

Craig

Sorry,misunderstood.

All I can say on this matter is Brown knows which side of the his bread is buttered.Don’t forget he HATES Mandelson (who doesn’t)got him back pretty damn quick when he needed too.Brown will have been told he will be looked after.There again he might well have been told that if he hadn’t supported Blair…get my drift.

Is it true that you have to be a Roman Catholic to become EU President?

If so, what a strange coincidence!

I feel like emigrating to New Zealand…
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@sabrateche – wondered where you’d gotten to! This is strange though as I’ve posted several URL posts (using the URL field) without moderation. Maybe you’d have more luck if you put them in the body of the comment, as George D does?

@all: I’ve obviously been sleeping in a barn, as I wasn’t aware of the story. But the analysis from Craig is excellent as ever, and I get increasingly frustrated that in general I can’t get this sort of writing in a mainstream newspaper. But, as per past discussions here, that this is the case should not come as a surprise, I suppose.

Blair is merely a puppet of powerful hidden forces. Whether he is made EU president or not, the powerful Zionist lobby and their capitalist lackeys will always be calling the shots.

The very idea, that a man of Blair’s questionable character, with his bloody history, and capacity for mendacity, should become the president of Europe, is a nightmare.

What Blair is, if anything, is a fanatically loyal servant of the most conservative, and aggressive elements in the United States. He is an appallingly bad European, and has done enormous damage to the concept of Europe, undermining it from within. He is an American Tojan Horse.

In the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, all over Europe there was massive opposition and millions taking to the streets in protest against war. This is stark contrast to the attitudes expressed in 1914. But, instead of Britain joining and strengthening this continent-wide movement, Blair chose to follow his imperial masters in Washington and betray his own people and their interests. He is, in essence, a traitor, and should have been tried as one.

Like the new Danish, Nato General Secretary, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Blair’s loyalty is first and foremost to the United States, not Europe; and both men, are, of course, arch-warcriminals, and professional liars of the worst type.

I think it’s telling, that two such important posts, filled by such men, with such split-loyalities, is a sign of the times. There are forces in the United States that wish to undermine the European Union, and especially the idea of an alternative model, and the threat of the Euro to the Dollar’s position as a reseve currancy. But all that is another, far larger, story.

Obama’s gross interference in European affairs, with his continual reference to Iran and terrorism as a greater threat to Europe than the United States, and his repeated support for Turkish memembership of the European Union, which is frankly none of his business, shows just how arrogant he is, and how seriously he takes his role as the new caesar of the western empire.

Hi Craig,

“criterion” is the greek singular.

You hate me now, don’t you?

Stephen

Sabretache

The petition link is

http://www.stopblair.eu

Click to view the comments. Most are derogatory. Many times he is referred to as a ‘war criminal’.

Jon

I’ve always assumed the form url field was for one’s own site – silly me eh? So you should now get to the petition by clicking on my sig below.

The problem I referred to above is that whenever I put more than one url in the regular text (even though it is not possible to put a link-enabled url there), a polite message about comment moderation results but as often as not, the comment disappears completely – VERY irritating it is too.

‘Click to view the comments. Most are derogatory. Many times he is referred to as a ‘war criminal’.’

War criminals are usually referred to as war criminals.

So what are the odds he will surface here next month?

ww.grreporter.info/statiaen.phpmysid=1823&t=16

Blair, not Bashir should be in the dock at the Hague for murdering millions of Afghans, Iraqis and Palestinians.

Perhaps some litigation should be started against Blair which would block his candidacy for president.

@sabretache – yes, I think that is it’s purpose. But I don’t think it matters too much. If you have multiple URLs, I’d suggest several posts with a comment in each. It’s to fox spammers, who often have several URLs in their ads.

@Jaded – sadly, war criminals are usually referred to as “President” or “Prime Minister”, at least in mainstream discourse.

I’ve just posted a link to the petition on anticant’s arena:

http://antarena.blogspot.com/2009/04/say-no-to-tony-blair-as-eu-president_07.html

I rather hope that the attachment of the Blair imprimatur to the EU will shake people out their apathy towards this monster. The disgraces of corruption, troughing on the tax payer and anti-democracy that we fret about in the UK are writ large – very large indeed – in the EU. How many drones are there like the Kinnocks, sucking millions a year from it?

Antagonism to the EU tends to be the province of the right – I’ve no idea why. It seems corporatist from top to bottom with excellent potential for fascism – the Tories should love it.

“I personally pledge to campaign actively to leave the EU if this arch war criminal becomes President”

Good. I used to be very pro-EU but no longer. Those tories who split their party on the issue – arguing that it undermined our sovereignty – were right. The EU is an undemocratic and dictatorial monstrosity. It introduces laws that have a profound effect on our lives and we know nothing about it. It is one of stepping stones to a form of world government run by shadowy, unelected bankers. Of course Blair wants a piece of the action.

I’m seriously considering voting UKIP next time. Not only as a protest vote but also because, behind their distasteful jingoism, theirs is a rather sensible policy and one that none of the main parties now offers.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_attendees

Just in case anyone wasn’t aware of this. I don’t think there is too much doubt that if they want Blair as EU President he will be EU President.

“This is stark contrast to the attitudes expressed in 1914″

writerman

Stick around on this site for awhile you will see that in many ways things have not changed.Just click on any pictures they will enlarge…

http://tinyurl.com/3b87h4

Sabretache

I presumed you were on holiday! Don’t leave us again.

Clive and Tim are going to be moving this thing to a whole new software soon. This blog got bigger than anticipated.

Just another reason to leave. As if any more were needed.

Any suggestions as to where to aim to settle?

What will a permanent president do ? and how permanent is permanent, like Ozymandias permanent ?

“Any suggestions as to where to aim to settle?”

http://tinyurl.com/c3njsk

Mr John

The President will be responsible for the foreign policy and security dimensions. I have to read Lisbon again, but I think there will still be a separate President of the Commission who will be responsible for internal market, agriculture and other competence stuff.

It is permanent in that it replaces the current six month revolving Presidency. Again, I would have to look up the Treaty but I think it is a five year renewable appointment.

Let us not forget who is already in Europe getting things ready for Blair and his aide-de-camp Mandelson…

http://tinyurl.com/cey3jo

“The post – which is unpaid but includes expenses”…lol.

This is precisely why Bliar agreed to massively increase the UK’s contribution to the EU Budget shortly before resigning the Premiership – ostensibly for nothing in return. The cynic in me says it is also the reason why he had a road to Damascas highly-publicised conversion to Catholicism.

Perhaps the EU Bureaucrats think by appointing a former British PM to the post of President we will at least cease to hate the EU, even if we don’t grow to love it. How wrong can they be. Nothing is more likely to drive the average Brit in the Eurosceptic camp than having the Great B’Liar appointed to the post (and his atrocious wife in tow).

Quite agree about the appalling thought of Blair grabbing yet another ‘important’ post, but don’t depend on the Irish to vote against the Lisbon Treaty again. I have just been speaking to some friends in Ireland and was told that the financial situation is so bad there that everyone will be too scared to vote No again. Pity – I was hoping they’d be the answer.

David Cameron could kill this running hare tomorrow. But he won’t.

If there are any of you out there placing any hopes in D. Cameron on any issue, best to get used to disappointment!

It seems to me a bad idea to give such a job to a time served warmonger.

It looks like I did the right thing when I fled to South America a couple of years ago.

When did starting a war of aggression against a country that is no threat to you stop being the supreme international crime exactly? After all the Nazis were hung? Is there a hidden clause where it only applies to Germans?

I will just tell you that I have just heard a trail for Blair and his Faith Foundation next Tuesday evening on Radio 4

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jmv21

His name and that of his FF were mentioned a couple of times for good measure and then some words from him. There is no end to his chutzpah. Today on the BBC website, there is a page given over to him where he writes about the Catholic church’s attitude to gays. We have had this publicity about his push for the presidency of the EU and then the Bakewell programme on Radio 3 Good Friday about his beliefs. What on earth is going on and who is setting this agenda in the BBC?

‘What on earth is going on and who is setting this agenda in the BBC?’

I wonder that when I watch BBC Breakfast some times. Some New Labour control freak in there somewhere i’m sure.

George Dutton: Good suggestion. (snigger)

If only.

The campaign to have Blair as EU Pres has been ongoing for quite some time. However, I seriously doubt if it will come to pass.

This is because the choice of president has to be unanimous. All 27 member states have to agree. And then it has to be agreed upon by the European Parliament, who can reject the proposal even if the 27 agreed.

The Irish vote on the Lisbon Treaty in the autumn has nothing to do with the possibility of Blair becoming president. What the Irish vote would do is to stop the ridiculous 6 month rotation of the EU President, and instead they would have a mandate of 2.5 years.

As for the UK leaving the EU. Until the Lisbon Treaty is ratified by all member states and enters into force, there is no provision in any other treaty for a country to leave the EU.

So… which do you want. A Yes or a No from Ireland.

For what it’s worth: I’m Irish, and will be voting Yes (again) when the time comes.

The campaign to have Blair as EU Pres has been ongoing for quite some time. However, I seriously doubt if it will come to pass.

This is because the choice of president has to be unanimous. All 27 member states have to agree. And then it has to be agreed upon by the European Parliament, who can reject the proposal even if the 27 agreed.

The Irish vote on the Lisbon Treaty in the autumn has nothing to do with the possibility of Blair becoming president. What the Irish vote would do is to stop the ridiculous 6 month rotation of the EU President, and instead they would have a mandate of 2.5 years.

As for the UK leaving the EU. Until the Lisbon Treaty is ratified by all member states and enters into force, there is no provision in any other treaty for a country to leave the EU.

So… which do you want. A Yes or a No from Ireland.

For what it’s worth: I’m Irish, and will be voting Yes (again) when the time comes.

‘Discreet lobbying’, eh?

Well who has decided that it is in Britain’s best interests that Blair should be appointed to this position – and on what basis?

How many other appointments are being (have been) quietly fixed? And why is this all being done so ‘discreetly’? Are these people ashamed of their actions? What do they have to hide?

This is simple confirmation that the tools of government and ‘democracy’ are merely a cloak.

the supreme international crime… Is there a hidden clause where it only applies to Germans?

Yes. When we do it, it’s called ‘the white man’s burden’. It’s not a crime dear boy, it’s civilization!

Possibly off topic – but could anyone tell me what Tony Bliar has done as Middle East peace envoy. I am utterly at a loss as to what he is being paid for.

Blair will be all for this…

http://tinyurl.com/ckcgp4

@AM – for what it is worth – well it is worth fuck all. I see you have your snub-nose in the Brussels trough so it is no surprise that you want a yes for the constition.

@George Dutton: My nose is neither snubed nor in any trough. Just becuase I’m in Brussels doesn’t mean anything.

There are countless other industries here too you know – it’s not all EU institutions and politics.

And as for the Lisbon Treaty (there is no constitution), it offers what is needed by the EU to be able to move forward, as it is currently stagnating becuase of being hamstrung by existing treaties.

“Tony Blair would probably welcome any delay in publishing the report. The former prime minister is making active plans to assume the new role of president of the European Council if Irish voters pass the Lisbon treaty in a referendum this autumn.”…

http://tinyurl.com/d5aw27

“My nose is neither snubed nor in any trough”

AM

Never said or implied it was.Look again at posts.

You said that the Conservative would not favour Blair as President. Whatever public mutterings there might be prior to the Euro elections I can assure you that the powers that be would be quite happy. Blair is “Thatcher’s heir”. Cameron has said that he considers himself Blair’s successor.

The EU is unlikely to worry too much about the views of what they are likely to consider one country’s “minority” parties: Lib Dem, SNP and Plaid Cymru.

The writer has every reason to be “horrified”. Tony Blair fits the biblical profile for “antichrist”.

The antichrist will head up the reformed Roman Empire (EU). He will bring together a one world religious system. He will bring a false peace to the Middle East.

Check it out.

1. Blair favourite to be permament European president.

2. Blair has established his own “Faith foundation.”

3. He is seeking to bring a peace agreement in the middle east, being the middle east peace envoy.”

Other evidence —- The antichrist will be a man of war.

He will be boastful.

He will be a deceiver.

He will be a man of intrigue.