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August 29, 2009
I'll Be Back
Thanks for all the messages of support, encouragement and rude exhortation. In the process of pulling myself together, and hopefully this blog will get campaigning again in about a week.
Posted by craig on August 29, 2009 11:14 AM in the category Life
Comments
Good to hear, Craig. We look forward to your return to the fray.
Posted by: Mike Cobley at August 29, 2009 11:27 AM
Yayy! Keep your heart up.
Posted by: dreoilin at August 29, 2009 11:47 AM
About time! I was just thinking of checking myself into the Priory.
Posted by: Johan van Rooyen at August 29, 2009 12:03 PM
Welcome back Craig!
Make the most of your time off from blogging; it's just excellent to know that you're OK.
Best wishes to you and your family,
Clark
Posted by: Clark at August 29, 2009 12:24 PM
Three cheers for that news and rejoice.
Posted by: mary at August 29, 2009 12:35 PM
Not in our name, the name of the majority of the American people I would guess or in the name of any decent sentient human being.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/24/ig_report/index.html
Glenn Greenwald
What every American should be made to learn about the IG Torture Report
Posted by: mary at August 29, 2009 12:44 PM
It's dogged as does it. I'm still campaigning at 80+. I expect you will be too.
Best of luck. (I won't say "British luck", as that's rather devalued coinage at the moment.)
Posted by: anticant at August 29, 2009 1:27 PM
It's been a dreich time without your incision and wit.
Posted by: Dodoze at August 29, 2009 1:28 PM
Music to my ears Craig. Hope to see your back on the track soon.
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2009 1:47 PM
We'll be here waiting for you!!!
Posted by: Demeter at August 29, 2009 1:48 PM
Good to hear, Craig - let's get back at 'em, eh?
Posted by: himwiththecyst at August 29, 2009 1:58 PM
Craig, can you get in touch with me please? We've just got the research in on BBC election coverage and we'd like to compare notes.
awjuryteam@hotmail dot com
Posted by: Alan Wallace at August 29, 2009 2:44 PM
Dear Craig
Well done for getting back on the horse, had to be done. Everyone gets down sometimes and needs a breather.
Nothing wrong in that.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Posted by: George Laird at August 29, 2009 2:45 PM
That's great news, happy to hear it!
Posted by: Vilipend at August 29, 2009 3:02 PM
Top man Craig.
Always remember the Dunkirk spirit.
All the best.
Posted by: joe90kane at August 29, 2009 3:10 PM
Good man.
Posted by: MECCAnopsis Cambrica at August 29, 2009 3:14 PM
Great stuff!
Posted by: Richard at August 29, 2009 5:24 PM
Wunderbar, wunderbar...
Posted by: ingo at August 29, 2009 6:01 PM
That's good news. Thank you.
Posted by: Christine at August 29, 2009 6:55 PM
That's a week after your downer. So the next time it happens, expect to start feeling better after about a week, and hang on till the 'storm' passes, like the Star Trek crew when the ship lurches a bit, O Captain of your own soul. (A good meal etc should help further smoothen passage through such occasional 'asteroid belts').
Posted by: Abe Rene at August 29, 2009 7:33 PM
Its always a pleasure to read your blog, craig. I look forward to reading your next expose that won't be covered by the BBC - that's why I come here... because the others aren't doing their jobs.
Hope you feel better reading all the compliments and thanks.
Posted by: at August 29, 2009 8:12 PM
Thata boy, Craig!
Posted by: at August 29, 2009 8:29 PM
Looking forward to regularly clicking on my top bookmark again.
Posted by: Póló at August 29, 2009 8:37 PM
Anyways Craig,
try to take things in the same philosophical way American politicians do whenever they fail to impress their unwashed electorate -
"The public has spoken. The bastards."
Posted by: joe90kane at August 29, 2009 10:06 PM
ACE !
Posted by: lwtc247 at August 29, 2009 11:06 PM
Stay cool Mr Murray. :-)
Posted by: max at August 30, 2009 12:11 AM
Great stuff, Craig. I rather hoped you would be - one can't keep a good man down after all. Had you gone, it would have been another brick in the wall of the establishment allowing conventional wisdom to be in their favour. Good man.
I was not kidding by saying that, when something serious goes down, I want to know what Craig Murray thinks about it.
Posted by: glenn at August 30, 2009 12:33 AM
Great stuff, Craig. I rather hoped you would be - one can't keep a good man down after all. Had you gone, it would have been another brick in the wall of the establishment allowing conventional wisdom to be in their favour. Good man.
I was not kidding by saying that, when something serious goes down, I want to know what Craig Murray thinks about it.
Posted by: glenn at August 30, 2009 12:33 AM
@ Abe:
"Warning: semantic stabilizers are off-line"
Posted by: Clark at August 30, 2009 1:24 AM
I missed you.
*sniff*
Posted by: Kerry Murdock at August 30, 2009 2:19 AM
Craig, you might like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIFYPQjYhv8
Posted by: Clark at August 30, 2009 2:33 AM
NuLabour liars.
Mandelslime said it wasn't for trade or oil. Now leaked letters from the man of Straw reveal that it was.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6814939.ece
August 30, 2009
Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'
Posted by: mary at August 30, 2009 8:36 AM
Great - looking forward to your next blog
Best
Mike
Posted by: MikeD at August 30, 2009 9:17 AM
Welcome back Craig. We all look forward to your analysis of the Megrahi affair. Im sure you will bring some sanity to the shrill media outcry.
Posted by: David McCann at August 30, 2009 10:56 AM
I wonder what's happened to Eric
Posted by: not Eric at August 30, 2009 11:07 AM
Relief! Thank-you!
Posted by: Anne Baird at August 30, 2009 12:42 PM
nice one you twat....i know how much you like that word...good to have you back
Posted by: sahar at August 30, 2009 3:35 PM
Дерьмо!
Posted by: Alisher Usmanov at August 30, 2009 6:12 PM
@not Eric at August 30, 2009 11:07 AM
I think p'raps you mean Eddie? He probably considers his work "done" (as if he made any difference.) Didn't he appear in the lead-up to the by-election? Creep.
Posted by: dreoilin at August 30, 2009 6:32 PM
Craig didn't show me much sympathy when I was feeling low and made a comment about how depressing British sport was to me as a child. Craig spouted some nonsense about wonderful English summer days and the sound of leather against willow. I simply cannot stand these romantic pictures of Britain that bear no resemblance to reality for most of us.
Politicians ignore what young people want, and like Craig, attack those who don't agree with them.
We have old men and women in government who don't give a damn about anyone - except themselves!
Craig seems to have herded together quite a lot of sheeple on this site, those who unquestioningly believe British ambassadors do good around the world.
British ambassadors played a pivotal role in 1952 in attempting to overthrow the democratically-elected Iranian government - a role that came to an end when the Iranian government got wind of the British plan and kicked them out. Britain was broke after WWII and needed control of Iran's nationalised oil industry to keep the UK economy afloat. Britain eventually got its way - with U.S. help! - in installing their chosen dictator, the Shah. Iranians were subsequently impoverished, and so, naturally, became very hostile towards Britain and America.
Nothing has changed. The role of ambassadors seems to be largely to implement the foreign policy of the British cabinet. A large part of that policy is aiding British corporations in stealing the wealth of other nations, particularly poor nations, and in propping up U.S. foreign policy.
For instance, the news media claims British troops have brought "democracy" to Afghanistan. Well, if that's their role in the world, why aren't they in Honduras? Where were they when one million poor, black, Rwandans were hacked and butchered to death? And why didn't they do something about all the dictators that the U.S. has installed and propped up over the decades, such as Suharto of Indonesia, one of the most brutal dictators the world has ever seen, the CIA wrote? Probably because many of those tyrants were installed with British help. Britain was also friendly towards Pinochet, another U.S.-installed tyrant. Pinochet was a good guy because he set a "wonderful" example - he allowed Western corporations to pillage from the Chileans.
If Craig attacked British ambassadors, and told us exactly what they do, I'd believe he was genuine, but he doesn't, so I'll always have my doubts. For instance, if Craig is such a good guy, why the hell does he want to be mixed up with all these crooks in office?
The government is now starting to treat us in a similar way to how it's been treating foreigners over the decades. If the public continue to behave like sheep, they are going to find themselves penned in - for good.
The general election next year will bring NO, OR WORSE, CHANGE.
Posted by: Tartarus at August 30, 2009 7:47 PM
Tartarus,
have a look about the site; you'll find Craig's criticisms of Charles Crawford, another ambassador. Read Murder in Samarkand; you'll find Craig's criticisms of ambassadors in general. Yes, I'm afraid you may be right about the general election, but we have to try, don't we?
Posted by: Clark at August 30, 2009 8:33 PM
Tartarus - forgive me but you seem to be striking out wildly at everything to do with Craig and this site. I dont understand you when you say - "if Craig is such a good guy, why the hell does he want to be mixed up with all these crooks in office?"
Standing for elected office does not automatically mean that you become a corrupt toady overnight. Nor is it the case that every MP is corrupt, although the mainstream media seems to depict them as such - the majority of people stand for office because they believe they can do good things for their constituents, fact. Its also true that many become disillusioned when they discover how little power ordinary MPs have. But a Member of Parliament does have one extraordinary power, that of being able to grab headlines and say what needs to be said so that what needs to be done stands a better chance of coming about.
You sound very cynical about politics in this country; I would advise that you transform yourself into a skeptic, since a cynic always believes the worst of everyone, and has abandoned hope. Have you abandoned hope?
Posted by: mike cobley at August 30, 2009 10:09 PM
About bloody time Tai Pan !!
Posted by: Frazer at August 31, 2009 7:24 AM
glad you've come round and I, like everyone else, look forward to reading your next post.
I for one would like to hear your opinions on the Swine Flu. A brave journalist called Jane Burgemeister has filed criminal charges in Austria against Baxter and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology for producing and distributing contaminated bird flu vaccine material this winter, alleging that this was a deliberate act to cause a pandemic.
Similar charges have also started to be filed with Police in Holland and other European countries and the Czech republic has refused to accept the vaccine because it isn't safe.
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=328&Itemid=95&lang=en
As human rights issues go, I don't think there could be a more pressing issue than this at the moment. Whats your opinion Craig?
Posted by: coyb at August 31, 2009 10:03 AM
@Tartarus - you've not been reading for long enough if you reckon that us folks here are "sheeple". Most of us here, I think, are intelligent and politicised folks frustrated at the lies and faux news that passes for analysis in mainstream discourse these days. I am sure Craig would quite happily condemn Western tinkering in foreign democracies through the ages, as would most of us here.
@Craig - excellent news. Take your time, write a bit more of your book, spend time with the family - and come back when you're ready. Best wishes!
Posted by: Jon at August 31, 2009 11:09 AM
Look forward to your return, Craig, in your own good time.
I for one will not criticise you if you let the blog become less all-consuming of your time and post only when moved to unleash a zinger against the worst and most outrageous hypocrisies.
Posted by: Strategist at August 31, 2009 12:59 PM
Splendid.
Posted by: JimmyGiro at August 31, 2009 2:17 PM
Harry's Place does guest pieces, I notice.
Posted by: technicolour at August 31, 2009 4:38 PM
From one MR C Murray to another - let's keep on fighting the good fight.
Chris
Posted by: C Murray at August 31, 2009 11:07 PM
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Aug 31, 2009 2:53 PM
Current rating: Not yet rated [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
In the UK we don't cheat much
We put a Music Festival On Attended By About 20,000 People That is Powered By The Sun
Now I know I get slagged off Remorselessly By Global Warmers On Here - Where I Point Out The Physics and Maths - That it Can't Be Done...
But The Guy Brought Up This Massive Solar Array on His Diesel Powered Lorry (soory - but I have to tell the truth)
And It Was a Really Lovely Sunny Day...
And They Pulled It Off...
Running it From Solar Power On The Day....
I Was Well Impressed With My Videos Of The Bands
hIGH dEFINITION vIDEO aND sTEREO sOUND
The Content Is Fucking AMAZING
I'm Talking About The Best Bands In The World Playing in My Local Solar Powered Park
The Kids Blew EVERYONE AWAY
12-13 Years Old Doing Their Own Stuff Better than Led Zeppelin
Do You Have Village Festivals in America?
Tony
Control By Fear Doesn't Work - Encouragement Of Children's Inate Skills and Love Works Wonders
I think I have just had one of the most wonderful days in my life...
Loads of our friends came back afterwards...
And saw what I had done
The videos and stuff - but they really came back because they wanted to be with my wife Julie - she has got such a heart of gold and has been absolutely wonderful and friendly and giving to Everyone
Just a smile and a friendly welcome and remembering the details of someone you haven't seen for years...
The years melt away
We are just so happy living here
We have got such wonderful friends
And we support each other
We live in a Village in England
I Reckon You Get All The Real Natural Talent At Solar Powered Gigs....
The Dark Girls with their Beautiful Skin and Dark Hair haven't fucked it up - by putting articial chemicals on their skin and hair
The Light Girls with their Beautiful Skin and Blonde Hair haven't fucked it up - by putting articial chemicals on their skin and hair
You see we are talking Real Country Girls Here - They are not interested in all this artificial shit and eat the best food on the planet grown locally on their own farms or back gardens
FREE
I think My Video Today - That Is The Video I Took With My High Definition Video Camera and Stereo Microphone - and I Religiously Monitored The Sound Levels Too Is Completely Fucking Wonderful
So I have started emailing the bands - and saying stuff like...
If you email me your postal address - I will send you all the files
I can't be bothered with editing or sending DVD's round - their Dad's can do that
We are going away on holiday soon -
But the bands played for Free today
And I did their videos for Free
So I give the content to the Musicians for Free
Tony
Posted by: tony_opmoc at September 1, 2009 1:09 AM
Dear Mr. Murray,
I am very sorry you lost the election. Your platform was superb. I would have voted for you in a heartbeat! I guess the Brits are as moronic as Americans these days. (Change, he will bring us change -- yes, but what kind of change?) What fools! You and Hillary Ben would have been two of the very finest MPs. Here in Chicago, as you know, our politics are extremely corrupt, indeed. Our mayor is a complete dictator, who is trying to foist the Olympics on us against our will. Our aldermen are all supine sycophants of the mayor. The mayor recently privatized our parking meters for the next 75 years so he could rake in a billion and a half dollars for him to run through now. Our governor was perp walked out of his house last December. He was the first Illinois governor to be accorded such an honor. When the FBI came to arrest him, he emerged in a jogging suit, jogged in place for a while in front of them, then lay down on the ground and curled up in a fetal position. Soon he will be joining Governor Ryan in the big house -- we all hope. Clearly, we could use a man of your integrity and intellect!
Listen, I count on your good commonsense and insider information. I regularly read The Telegraph so I desperately need your views to counter the bad influences I pick up from that publication. Without your input, I was forced today to print out all sorts of Guardian articles on Lockerbie, when I should have been doing my work.
Now I have to read those articles, when just a sentence or two from you could have sorted the problem all out to my satisfaction and saved me so much time.
Hurry back, we need you! I loved your comments on the swine flu -- the Pepys diary takeoff. Well done! I work at The University of Chicago -- yes, I heard you when you visited our campus -- where the powers that be appear terrified of that particular epidemic. For a while, every person who entered the building was forced to wash their hands in front of a security guard. Yet, they are so miserly that they have laid off a lot of clearning staff and we are always running out of paper towels to dry our hands. They also sent an e-mail urging employees who were sick to call in sick! Normally, hospital employees get a black mark by their name if they call in sick. It is called an "occurrence". Too many occurrences and its curtains for you! Yet, suddenly they were begging people to call in sick. I could tell they were genuinely scared. Then they sent out a congratulatory memo saying that they had done a "magnificent job" of preventing the plague. Ha!
Anyway, we miss you -- hurry back!!! I hope Baby and Nadira are well.
Posted by: Gretchen Hendrie at September 1, 2009 1:13 AM
Tony, you seem to have greta fun, but those who wanted to go to the Big Green Gathering saw their fun cut off by last minute objections by local police council and fire brigade. The Government could not stomach that money would be raised for the climate change camp, that activists of all sorts of NGO's would meet and get together, so they told the local service providers to object at the last minute with spurious demands.
The Big Green Gathering was cancelled because of Government directions, a sign that the Kings north and Yorkshire actions have hit the nail on the head.
Not informing the police of one's campaign actions is healthy and a reaction to harrassment, false arrests and trumped up charges, all methods to split the movement, to tie some of them up in pathetic court cases and restrictions, so please understand their reactions, some of them are for resons of self preservation.
Posted by: ingo at September 1, 2009 8:19 AM
"@ Abe: "Warning: semantic stabilizers are off-line" Posted by: Clark at August 30, 2009 1:24 AM"
Eh? I've heard of mood stabilisers, strait jackets and even dilithium crystals (in a Trekkie shareware game), but semantic stabilizers? Antidepressants consisting of a Socratic dialogue about meanings? That's a new one to me. Not that Craig needs any of these now that he has recovered, of course.
Posted by: Abe Rene at September 1, 2009 10:35 AM
Hi Craig
We need a voice like yours in politics. It might not be a voice that can seduce people with shiny promises or sweet serenades that appeal to people's baser whims, telling them what they want to hear, rather than practical truths. You may not entice the masses with bland platitudes, but you are the voice of conscience and reason, something sadly lacking in today's political spectrum. Though you might not have the majority viewpoint and run with the herd, you balance it out by saying what is right and what would benefit and protect the people. We need somebody to say this, as there are clearly nowhere near enough as it is! Don't give up, otherwise murderers and liars like Jack Straw will get away with their crimes, and we aren't going to let that happen, are we?
Posted by: Norwich Boyo at September 1, 2009 12:04 PM
Craig, You may have been out of blogging salts for a day or two, but I'm confident today's top story will get you fired-up and back to normal.
This afternoon Dr. Jim Swire, who lost his daughter on Pan Am 103, reiterated his opinion that Ali al-Magrahi's trial was flawed. Sky News then reported the Scottish Justice Secretary, Ken MacAskill, had visited Magrahi's prison cell to tell him if he didn’t drop the appeal he wasn’t going home.
Evidence hitherto suppressed by Gagging Orders was due to be called at Magrahi's appeal.
Finding out who was really responsible for the bombing is once again being kicked in the long grass by the mass media focusing on yet another sordid deal for oil.
Posted by: Jim Hutchinson at September 1, 2009 6:50 PM
Kenny McAskill did not visit al Magrahi's cell to tell him that if he didn't drop his appeal he wasn't going home.
If Sky News reported that it is a lie. (No surprise there then)
I have sent this post on to Kenny McAskill.
Al Megrahi realised that he could not go home to spend his last few days or weeks with his family if the appeal was to go ahead in any meaningful way and he reluctantly dropped the appeal while joining calls for a full enquiry that would clear his name -probably posthumously.
The SNP Government was very keen on the appeal going ahead and is now keen on the Public Inquiry which the UK is likely to prevent as it would very firmly point at US/UK collusion in history's most disgraceful stitch-up.
Dr Jim Swire has publicly stated for several years that he believed al Megrahi to be innocent. I'm afraid the English audience are very far behind on this issue. Very few informed people in Scotland believe the verdict now and are joined by Prof Robert Black who arranged the Cape Zeist trial, the UN observer at the trial, several ex CIA operatives who were involved who have recently broken cover to denounce the manipulation and invention of evidence and many more respected public figures. This however is irrelevant to the actual relase which was done in complete accordance with Scots law on compassionate grounds.The crime or the sentence have nothing to do with the reasons for the release.
There is a huge and co-ordinated attack going on against the SNP Scottish Government on this issue trying to imply that there was some back-stairs collusion on the release with the Government in London.
The SNP has just released all the papers on this and there was no such thing.
The Labour, Tory and LibDem parties are making complete fools of themselves on this issue and the most current opinion poll shows a sharp rise in support for the SNP Government.
I suspect this is the issue that will split the union.
Posted by: David McEwan Hill at September 1, 2009 11:51 PM
Thank you Craig.
This blog has been one of the best source of analysis,
Posted by: Abualshawareb at September 2, 2009 1:10 AM
@ Abe:
it's a phrase I blurted whilst trying to argue something more complex than my state of inebriation permitted. It was inspired by "Warning: Inertial dampers are off-line"...
Posted by: Clark at September 2, 2009 2:42 AM
Abe: " ... semantic stabilizers? Antidepressants consisting of a Socratic dialogue about meanings? That's a new one to me."
@Abe: it's actually not such a bizarre notion. Maybe you should read Lou Marinoff's best-selling book "Plato, Not Prozac: applying philosophy to everyday problems", or "The Big Questions: how philosophy can change your life"? Tim LeBon's "Wise Therapy" is also a good resource for counsellors. Socratic dialogue is one of several techniques that can be very helpful to someone troubled by distressing thoughts.
Suppose you feel bad because of something that happened to you: you could of course swallow some antidepressants in the hope to cushion the blow or compensate for your low energy levels (different drugs work in different ways). But at the end of the day you've still got to face the world and come to terms with whatever brought you down in the first place. Pills won't resolve an existential crisis. If your mood dropped because of what something meant to you, or what you mean to others, then surely it's constructive to examine that meaning and find a new way of conceiving or relating to it.
Craig's downer wasn't spontaneous: it followed a disappointing result in the Norwich North by-election - disappointing to him, that is; many of the campaign team were rather more sanguine about it. His personal interpretation of that result is what needs to be re-examined. Lots of people have already suggested more positive perspectives here on this blog. The real road to recovery is paved with philosophy, not drugs.
@ Clark: the "semantic stabilizers" metaphor is actually quite an apt one. Meaning isn't an objective substance out there in the world; it's a subjective relation created by minds and standardised by interpersonal communication. Linguistic meaning is fairly easy to standardise, by demonstration and correction (esp. for infants), dictionaries or other reference sources - as it depends on intersubjective consensus. However, the way you interpret an event in your personal life is rather more pliable; there are no 'dictionaries of emotional semantics' mapping election results onto an individual's cherished values, particularly in the case of an unprecedented independent campaign. Consulting people with a different perspective can certainly help, and Socratic dialogue is one of the best ways to focus the discussion. This is indeed a method of 'stabilizing semantics'. Alternatively, if you choose to mull things over in private, you will inevitably dwell on your original impression, which will trigger the same emotional mechanisms and prolong the depressive state until something else pulls you out of it.
If you want a sympathetic ear, you should avoid 'pull-your-socks-up' advice from commonsense advisers; it's best to find someone trained in counselling skills. Most counsellors look for dysfunctional patterns of emotional response, but if the emotions are appropriate then their psychological interventions don't apply. Cognitive therapies are good at addressing a certain type of emotionally-biased thinking, but often encourage methods of emotional distraction which don't really resolve the issues. There are people with relevant expertise in reasoning, existentialism and morality who also have training in counselling skills and psychology: they're known as philosophical counsellors.
This may sound like some odd new-age hybrid of academia and psychology, but in fact 'philosophical' counselling is the original form, chronologically prior to both psychotherapy and psychiatry. It's the most appropriate form of 'counsel' for puzzles demanding complex analysis, critical thinking, and assessment of personal values. It doesn't rely on models of mental illness, cognitive disorder, personality types or even dysfunctional patterns of emotion; instead it prioritises logic, intuition and inquiry. Marinoff calls it "therapy for the sane": if for some reason a client is genuinely incapable of following a logical argument, they are referred to a psychologist or psychiatrist. Parody it if you want to, but you'll only betray your ignorance about how the practice is actually carried out.
Craig is going through the slow process of coming to terms with the election defeat in his own way. He seems to prefer to deal with it alone; though he sometimes issues candid pronouncements on this blog, he doesn't engage in personal dialogue. This self-reliance implies that he habitually shields himself against persuasion by others: it's a valuable skill for an ambassador but makes it more difficult to calibrate personal opinions that may have gone off base. Hence the longer period of private cogitation and reflection.
While this blog offers an arena to air ideas and receive feedback, it's rather too public to share half-formed personal thoughts (and it's prone to hijacking by people with other agendas). It's better to talk things over in a more confidential and focused setting with a counsellor until your personal thoughts have stabilised. There are several practitioners in the UK, and Craig is aware that he has one on call should he ever wish to talk over the issues that are vexing him.
Best wishes, Craig.
Posted by: logosity at September 2, 2009 3:57 AM
Tony...you HAVE to tell me what you are on..I would love to try it...
Posted by: Frazer at September 2, 2009 7:54 AM
The correspondence between Westminster and Hollyrood clearly shows the decision to release Megrahi was made in London - purely in the interest of BP shareholders.
Tony Blair, had previously told the White House Megrahi would not be released under the prisoner exchange scheme. Straw simply shifted the goalposts by making Megrahi eligible for release on compassionate/health grounds. The deal for oil and gas, will be worth up to £15 Billion.
The fact that Megrahi's trial was fatally flawed is being lost in a US media manufactured Westminster v. Hollyrood slanging match. The last thing Black Bush wants is a proper investigation into Lockerbie.
I hope Craig gets his teeth into this palpable miscarriage of justice.
Posted by: Rita at September 2, 2009 11:08 AM
Logosity,
thank you for your interesting post, which clearly articulates various concepts that have been roiling in my thoughts for years. Thank you also for the link to the Society for Philosophy in Practice, which I shall explore when pressure of time permits.
Craig,
thank you for your blog, which is excellent to visit, even when you're not here yourself. I hope you're doing well.
Clark
Posted by: Clark at September 2, 2009 11:40 AM
Jim Hutchinson and Rita,
you've both posted links to "sxolsout.org.uk". Could you tell me a bit about yourselves? Is the site you've linked to yours?
Regards,
Clark
Posted by: Clark at September 2, 2009 12:14 PM
Rita,
I doubt that even Jack Straw could manipulate someone into being in their last days dying of cancer. I think Megrahi's release was inevitable due to his condition and his release was the correct thing to do under scottish law.
Posted by: Chris Dooley at September 2, 2009 12:47 PM
Huzzah!
Onwards and upwards!
Posted by: punkscience at September 2, 2009 5:28 PM
Along with logosity, I'm a bit tired of people telling you to 'snap out of it', 'we need you', etc !
He refers to "commonsense advisers" in a general sense but we've seen a few here ...
I too regard you as a valued net-friend, but I do not own you .
So no exhortations, just-----------
Bonne Chance !
frog
Posted by: manchedave at September 2, 2009 5:38 PM
Rita
The decision to release al Megrahi most certainly was not made in London, a fact which invalidates the rest of your post which otherwise has considerable merit.
Of more immediate interest however is the asinine behaviour of the unionist opposition in the Scottish Parliament yesterday which has disgraced Scotland.
Posted by: at September 3, 2009 11:56 AM
A little weasel working in a bonded printing warehouse has told me again yesterday, after initially telling me month ago, that the Government is printing food rationing cards and other pamphlets of central public control.
Has anybody else heard similar stories?
Posted by: ingo at September 3, 2009 1:28 PM
ingo
Your "little weasel" could well be telling you the truth?.
Came across this...
http://tinyurl.com/ccluhx
The good old days, about to return?.
Posted by: George Dutton at September 3, 2009 7:46 PM
This is from today’s Scotland Live on BBC Radio Scotland. It is a comment with to which all decent people can relate. It is from the former British Ambassador to Libya, Sir Oliver Miles.
Speaking of the debate yesterday and the position taken by Scotland’s combined opposition he said “If I can make a personal comment on this, I find this rather extraordinary and rather disgusting because it seems to me that it was never intended, by the court for example that Megrahi should die in jail”. He also said “To say that ‘he should have died in the prison’, seems to me the polite equivalent of the bar room language of ‘hanging is too good for him, throw away the key’. He continues “Now, I am frankly shocked, shocked, that all of our UK parties seem to by vying with each other to be more vindictive of the other” and he finished by saying “It’s enough to make me vote Scottish Nationalist, and I’m as English as they come.”
His remarks merely underline that this in not and never has been a political issue, is not a nationalist versus unionist issue, is not an England versus Scotland issue. It is a civilized versus barbarism issue and the united Scottish opposition disgraced Scotland yesterday.
When I left the Labour party , fifty years ago as a teenager, and joined the SNP I always entertained the fullest expectation that the Labour party in Scotland would eventually surely follow me. I contested elections against Labour in Lanarkshire on the best of terms with my Labour opponents many of whom I counted as friends. The Labour Party asked me to rejoin and stand for them - with a guarantee of success. I was a counting agent in St John’s Grammar School in Hamilton when Winnie Ewing won and despite the trauma that Labour experienced that night the was little nastiness and a shared understanding that both Labour and the SNP has decent causes which afforded a degree of mutual respect.
But time has rolled on and my optimism about Labour has diminished with every passing year. Yesterday marked a depth of disgusting and cynical political expediency that I never believed that Labour could stoop to.
Labour is finished in Scotland. The SNP is well along the road, not of beating it but of replacing it.
Posted by: David McEwan Hill at September 4, 2009 12:04 AM
Some of us here in New Zealand read your blog with gratitude.
To receive the news that the media won't print is essential to our well-being and
helps motivate us to speak out.
Thanks again
Barbara
Posted by: Barbara at September 4, 2009 5:34 AM
I am a frenchman living in Paris. I just falled by random in your blog and I apreciate your messages about Near East very very well. In France, unfortunately, we are surrounded by the cowardise of the media concerning this conflict sionisto-palestinian. Everything you write, I agree with you. Please let translate your messages and send them to the french MP Chamber, "Chambre des Député, Assemblée Nationale" Paris : it would be a very good exemple for them and the best way of boosting them out the general apathy and cwardise !
GONZAGUE HUTIN
5 rue Christine
75006 Paris, France
Posted by: HUTIN Gonzague at September 5, 2009 5:18 AM
I am a frenchman living in Paris. I just falled by random in your blog and I apreciate your messages about Near East very very well. In France, unfortunately, we are surrounded by the cowardise of the media concerning this conflict sionisto-palestinian. Everything you write, I agree with you. Please let translate your messages and send them to the french MP Chamber, "Chambre des Député, Assemblée Nationale" Paris : it would be a very good exemple for them and the best way of boosting them out the general apathy and cwardise !
GONZAGUE HUTIN
5 rue Christine
75006 Paris, France
Posted by: HUTIN Gonzague at September 5, 2009 5:18 AM
I am a frenchman living in Paris. I just falled by random in your blog and I apreciate your messages about Near East very very well. In France, unfortunately, we are surrounded by the cowardise of the media concerning this conflict sionisto-palestinian. Everything you write, I agree with you. Please let translate your messages and send them to the french MP Chamber, "Chambre des Député, Assemblée Nationale" Paris : it would be a very good exemple for them and the best way of boosting them out the general apathy and cwardise !
GONZAGUE HUTIN
5 rue Christine
75006 Paris, France
Posted by: HUTIN Gonzague at September 5, 2009 5:21 AM
Tim Ireland on the hypocrisy of Nadine Dorries. She just can't help herself.
http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/08/rip_frank_branston.asp
Posted by: mary at September 5, 2009 6:02 PM
Ingo,
any chance of ferreting out some samples or copies?
Posted by: Clark at September 5, 2009 10:48 PM
"Outrageous Behavior: Bogus Bluster From Bigwigs Hides Lockerbie Truth"
by Chris Floyd
Saturday, 05 September
http://tinyurl.com/mhdn2q
(Sordid from start to finish)
Posted by: dreoilin at September 6, 2009 1:50 AM
What I Have Seen of The Video Today...
Which Involved Several Miles Walking...
Is Just So Good...
Because It Is About Where We Live in Our Village....
It Starts At The Village Fair
And I See This Photograph Of All These Bees on The Table The Lady's Were Running Outside Our Local Library in The Village Square....
And I see All The Jars of Honey and The Incredibly Beautiful Beeswax Candles...
And I ask her - Is This a Photograph Of Your Bees?
And She Said - Yes I Took That Photograph This Morning - It is Such a Beautiful Sunny Day
And I Looked Into Her Eyes and She Could Have Been Any Age From about 65 to 115 and I Knew She Was Telling The Truth...
She explained - that is a picture of our bees - which I took this morning - and all this is their honey...
But although they really are Beeswax Candles - we didn't make them ourselves...
My Wife Fell In Love and So Did I
And My Wife Bought a Candle
And I Videod The Exchange
Hey - I Love Where I Live
Such Lovely People
Tony
Posted by: tony_opmoc at September 6, 2009 3:05 AM
I am missing your insight greatly. Hope all is well in the Craig household.
There are so many current issues that need clarity and an understanding that only you seem to provide.
Posted by: nevergiveup at September 6, 2009 11:32 AM
Probably true but leave the man alone. He needs space.
Posted by: mary at September 6, 2009 1:31 PM
Sorry didn't mean to sound so brusque @ nevergiveup. Perhaps we can just post up what we consider important for the time being and use this site for comment and discussion (if we are allowed).
Posted by: mary at September 6, 2009 3:46 PM
Noticing swine flu post above, you might like to bookmark http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/ where Dr Meryl Nass MD keeps an eye on such things. Nothing like having a scientific view instead of the 'news'.
Posted by: Vronsky at September 7, 2009 7:30 AM
Sorry Clark, that would be too much me thinks, that person is a tortured soul at best and it would really be not much news.
It is a logical step to make when food prices are rising as they are.
I shall try and ask that person, don't expect much, I might evoke a smile for suggesting it and a bottle of something might wriggle it, but don't be surprised if it does not.
Posted by: ingo at September 7, 2009 11:26 AM
Libya - everybody's favourite whipping boy - should apparently now pay victims of the IRA compensation because they allegedly supplied explosives. Should the Irish government not also pay compensation, given they harboured the IRA terrorists for decades, providing them with aid and comfort in no small measure?
Should Sinn Fein not be paying compensation, given they basically ARE the IRA?
But most importantly, why isn't America providing the bulk of the compensation, since not only did they give the IRA aid and comfort for decades, but also the bulk of the hard cash that funded the IRA?
After all, successive British governments had been asking the Americans to please, pretty-please put a stop to the supply of cash and weapons. All the Americans did in return was shrug and turn a blind eye, when it wasn't giving the red carpet treatment to terrorists like Adams.
Posted by: glenn at September 7, 2009 12:16 PM
On the subject of swine flu, Jane Burgermeister's http://www.theflucase.com carries all the latest stories re the disease and the vaccine. Ms Burgermeister recently filed criminal charges against WHO, Baxter and others and has pretty apocalyptic views about the true nature of the vaccine.
Her own article "Revolution is the Answer" is well worth a read. She may be barking up the wrong tree - or just plain barking - but the article is IMO a fine piece of political polemic for these strange times.
Posted by: MJ at September 7, 2009 12:18 PM
"Libya - everybody's favourite whipping boy - should apparently now pay victims of the IRA compensation because they allegedly supplied explosives".
If governments are to be held responsible for the damage done by their weapons exports ... it's a fascinating principle. I'm really suprised the UK govt. would want to go there. Is there any history to the idea ?
Posted by: Richard Robinson at September 7, 2009 1:54 PM
Recharge your batteries, get your head screwed on right and forge onwards. If you really have lost heart, then just leave it till you feel otherwise. No sense in making yourself ill, which you most likely will, and without the spirit inside I doubt you will make much progress. I came back to see what you had to say on the 'terror plot' verdict. I didn't visit your blog for a good few weeks because I needed a break myself. Maybe ridding your site of shills might be a good idea? I reiterate, shills and not simply people with different opinions! These scrotes are easy to identify pretty much. The internet is actually crawling with agents of the powers that be and it is a lot worse than I first thought. They operate on many blogs, forums and chat rooms. Sad, sick and pathetic. Never doubt yourself and I sincerely hope to see you back soon!
Posted by: Jaded at September 7, 2009 6:06 PM
Craig,
Interested to hear of your analysis of the 'Airline explosive plot'; verdicts delivered today.
The government had to secure some guilty verdicts, otherwise there would be no end to the criticsm that they would have received - putting the public through the airport liquid restrictions etc.
Note that the trial just finished was on its 3rd set of jury members, so desperate were the authorities to secure a conviction. This was also a second trial, after no 'airline' connection was found by the jury in September 2008.
& What has happened to Rashid Rauf or Mohammed Gulzar, originally both touted as the 'ring-leaders' of the plot.
What a load of old cobblers.......
Give us a blog post in the sorely missed, hard hitting style of Postman Patel.
Best Wishes
Shugster
Posted by: Shug at September 7, 2009 7:36 PM
Craig, you want to think about how many people you have undoubtedly saved from death and torture. You can't quantify this sort of thing, but it's a cast iron fact if you think about it. Simply by bringing this to the public domain, even if not to the mass media yet, you will have made those in positions of power very uneasy. They will be going out of their way to distance themselves from this. The obvious result will be a decrease in this sort of activity.
P.S. I hope that's an 'I'll be back' Arnie style by the way. :-0
Posted by: Jaded at September 7, 2009 9:19 PM
@Shug From OrwellianUK on medialens
From the memory hole on this:
http://www.septicisle.info/2008/09/crying-over-spilt-liquid.html#comments
and from Craig Murray (where I also sourced the above link)
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2008/09/nonexistent_big.html
in reply to Spike who said
Much crowing from the BBC tonight on this, it's just a shame it took two trials to get the exact result they were looking for, although I imagine trivial details like this will be easily forgotten now the official verdict is in. And on the face of it, it's just a case of criminals get caught perpetrating criminal acts, but that's not good enough. The real significance is expressed succinctly by Alan Johnson -
"This case reaffirms that we face a real and serious threat from terrorism."
And Lord Carlisle (independent reviewer of terrorism laws)
"It's an important set of convictions demonstrating that there's a great risk from terrorism"
Posted by: mary at September 7, 2009 11:21 PM
The new terror verdict seems to ignore that the so-called explosives were highly unlikely to cause significant damage.
Posted by: Chris at September 8, 2009 12:32 AM
"Should the Irish government not also pay compensation, given they harboured the IRA terrorists for decades, providing them with aid and comfort in no small measure?"--glenn
That's a load of tosh. Quote me some facts and sources and I'll have a look at them. The old Charlie Haughey gun-running case was not the "Irish Government" and neither was secret help and/or secret safe houses from members or sympathizers of the IRA in the Republic. The "Irish Government" is a different kettle of fish. So give me some sources please. Quote me some facts.
-------------------
Here's a quote from Jon Snow's Snowmail which I received yesterday, in which he's talking about the "liquid bomb plot" and the fact that it's the last major case that has been ongoing in the system:
"I am told there is concern inside government that the lack of these high-profile cases together with a fading confidence in control orders will lower the public's interest in anti-terrorism and even in the associated war in Afghanistan."
Doesn't that say volumes to folks here? I guess they'll have to make another big "raid" somewhere in suburbia shortly, and haul off about 8 people into custody. Have to keep that fearmongering going.
Posted by: dreoilin at September 8, 2009 7:53 AM
just as last weeks backlash news making out that it was not the rising wheat prices that cut Afghan poppy producvtion by 22% but the immense effort of coalition troops. LoL, this news is another propaganda message to us stressing how much we are at threa, still.
Fear, whenever these cases come up is once again being used to mark this another anniverssarry of the 'intended 9/11 plot'.
Its coming up to the date, so best remind us all why we are spending the lives of our young men , not to mention the bilions of lost money and effort spent in perpetuating this humanitarian disaster, this negating of human rights allround.
When will we get fed up with these posterers?
Posted by: ingo at September 8, 2009 9:04 AM
I read this this morning and was disgusted:
US troops 'stormed through Afghan hospital'
Monday, 7 September 2009
"A Swedish charity accused American troops today of storming through a hospital in central Afghanistan, breaking down doors and tying up staff in a search for militants ...
"When they left two hours later, the unit ordered hospital staff to inform coalition forces if any wounded militants were admitted, *and the military would decide if they could be treated, Fange said*.
"The staff refused, he said. "That would put our staff at risk and make the hospital a target."
"The charity said on its Web site that the troops actions were not only a violation of humanitarian principles but also went against an agreement between NATO forces and charities working in the area."
http://tinyurl.com/n83abg (Independent)
This is called "winning hearts and minds". After recently blowing up about 100 people in a US airstrike on two hijacked fuel tankers that had got stuck in mud -- and where local civilians were trying to scoop up some discarded petroleum into buckets. These, some of the poorest people in the world, who have no fuel, no running water, no electricity. Well done the USA. And yes, we are aware that you have a policy of "taking every care" to avoid civilian deaths. And that you're going to "investigate" yourselves.
You're going to "investigate" this hospital jaunt too, and we know that's the last we'll ever hear about it.
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