On Sex, Spanking, and Song

by craig on October 1, 2009 4:20 pm in Rendition

Precisely 38 minutes after I posted a blog entry pointing to definite proof of Jack Straw’s complicity in torture, one Helen Wright added this comment, which I thought deserved a wider audience:

I thought you were removed for buying sex from vulnerable young women in foreign countries?

Apparently you enjoy sex with a kilt on and like to smack womens arses while singing Scottish songs.

You are a man of questionable morals and brough shame on our country. Crawl back under your rock, you slimeball

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I am shocked. You mean there’s another way to have sex?

I repeat it as a poignant reminder of the glory days of the Downing St smear machine, when they concocted enough lies about me to fill a Trident submarine. As New Labour goes down unloved into oblivion, it is interesting to see the legs still kicking in reflex.

The extremely important post from which she was seeking to detract your attention is here. Please, please read it – as experience shows that getting sex in the heading quintuples my traffic, her puerile smear will then have backfired spectacularly.

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/10/either_craig_mu.html

61 Comments

  1. jay

    1 Oct, 2009 - 5:15 pm

    She’s just jealous she’s married to an Englishman.

  2. Rick

    1 Oct, 2009 - 5:34 pm

    Even if you DID enjoy all of those things (and frankly I don’t give a toss if you do) how would that mean that Jack Straw was not complicit in torture?

  3. joe90 kane

    1 Oct, 2009 - 5:38 pm

    “I am shocked. You mean there’s another way to have sex?”

    - There are other ways to have sex but, unfortunately, the bonnie lassies always insist I wear my kilt whilst reciting Rabbie Burns love poetry to them.

    It’s a strain, but what else can a patriotic Scotsman like myself do under such circumstances!

  4. Alex T

    1 Oct, 2009 - 5:39 pm

    Would that be this Helen Wright Dundee labour councillor https://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/councillors/helenwright/

  5. Tris

    1 Oct, 2009 - 5:52 pm

    I see Helen, whoever she may be, isn’t too hot on apostrophes.

  6. Daniel Hoffmann-Gill

    1 Oct, 2009 - 6:01 pm

    Epic Comment Fail

  7. mike cobley

    1 Oct, 2009 - 6:02 pm

    As always, I chortle at the frothy collision of illiteracy and narrow-mindedness. Ooops, should I have used the word ‘frothy’? Bad me.

  8. Craig

    1 Oct, 2009 - 6:58 pm

    Is it Helen Wright, Dundee New Labour councillor? We need Subrosa Blonde to investigate.

  9. Ruth

    1 Oct, 2009 - 7:20 pm

    Sounds like Helen Wright doesn’t enjoy sex at all.

  10. Ruth

    1 Oct, 2009 - 7:26 pm

    ‘You are a man of questionable morals and brough shame on our country.’

    I think she’s getting a bit confused with the judges and the Scottish prosecution service who most surely deliberately convicted an innocent man for mass murder

  11. anticant

    1 Oct, 2009 - 7:59 pm

    I’m always wary of men in skirts.

  12. ingo

    1 Oct, 2009 - 7:59 pm

    Ruth, far from not enjoying sex, let us consider the opposite, would you not say there is a twinkle shining through her words of abjectivity?

    Why could we not see it earlier, the copuncillors dull life has led her to want something else, a little bit more than feeling alive…

    I think she fancies Craig, her postering mormonic repressive self is a mere cloak to her deepests thoughts of iniquity, she has the hots for the scottish rogue….. not much else to be said

  13. JimmyGiro

    1 Oct, 2009 - 9:35 pm

    In the Presbyterian tradition, a Scot can have any kind of sex conceivable… as long as he doesn’t enjoy it!

  14. Alan

    1 Oct, 2009 - 10:09 pm

    If it is the Dundee Councillor Helen Wright she has a cheek. She was Dundee’s first female Provost but got the boot after trying to claim back a charitable donation from taxpayers for £10 she donated at Donald Dewar’s memorial service

  15. Stevie

    1 Oct, 2009 - 10:29 pm

    These kind of posts often appear whenever Craig makes a really valid point. It’s almost as though they were trying to detract from the truth he is speaking…..mmmmmmmm.

  16. merkinonparis

    1 Oct, 2009 - 11:29 pm

    Quite correct, Craig.

    My traffic uber-skyed when I linked to the following : Gordon Brown is a Murderous Two Faced Cunt.

    These people are on the run with regard to the Court of Public Opinion.

    Anticant has asked me why I continue to post on The Graun wach time I get deleted.

    My view is that even if you can’t influence directly you can still shout ‘Fire!’

  17. Abe Rene

    1 Oct, 2009 - 11:57 pm

    Have read the post. I wonder whether someone will leak a copy of the manuscript by Jack Straw (perhaps it is already on tne internet somewhere??)

  18. dreoilin

    2 Oct, 2009 - 12:05 am

    To some people “questionable morals” can only mean one thing. Helen Wright has a serious problem.

  19. dreoilin

    2 Oct, 2009 - 12:08 am

    “as experience shows that getting sex in the heading quintuples my traffic”

    Hah. Maybe it’ll bring Helen back.

  20. actgreen

    2 Oct, 2009 - 12:09 am

    can’t stop chuckling at your marketing guile.

    “her puerile smear will then have backfired spectacularly.” Definitely!

    Great stuff.

  21. joe90 kane

    2 Oct, 2009 - 12:15 am

    ‘Apparently you enjoy sex with a kilt on and like to smack womens arses while singing Scottish songs.’

    - Try playing the bagpipes at the same time Craig. It drives the women wild.

  22. anticant

    2 Oct, 2009 - 12:36 am

    The reason why I refuse on principle to post on the ‘Guardian’s’ “Comment is Free” site is that the moderators exercise an arbitrary and at times incomprehensible Politically Correct deletion policy which is completely at odds with the famous statement of their great Liberal owner-editor, C.P. Scott, that “Comment is free, facts are sacred”.

    The Guardian – once a great newspaper which, as a Manchester man, I revered without always agreeing with its politics – is these days a pathetic shadow of its former self. It respects neither facts nor comment.

  23. Craig

    2 Oct, 2009 - 1:15 am

    I just tried “The muckin’ o’ Geordie’s byre” on Nadira.

    It didnae work.

  24. dreoilin

    2 Oct, 2009 - 1:23 am

    “Try playing the bagpipes at the same time Craig”

    As long as it’s not piobaireachd. You have to pace up and down the floor for that.

  25. glenn

    2 Oct, 2009 - 1:25 am

    https://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/councillors/helenwright/

    …. https?

    Does that site ask anyone to accept a certificate before entering it? No? Are transactions likely to happen, which requires strong encryption, which is by default granted on that site? If so, why is the site wide open?

    Does the sysadmin of that site have the faintest idea what they are doing, and how completely compromised the entire setup is?

    Stone me if I don’t hear a bit of bitterness and jealously when Helen Wright talks about being spanked on the arse while having sex.

    I know my wife wouldn’t have it any other way… sorry you’re missing out so much, Helen. But you could always pay someone to do it… heck, you’d probably manage to claim for the cost of it too.

  26. mrjohn

    2 Oct, 2009 - 3:52 am

    Which songs ? Hebridean Waulking Songs by any chance.

  27. jan

    2 Oct, 2009 - 6:39 am

    ach new labour with their teflon skins, nothing sticks to them.

  28. Dodoze

    2 Oct, 2009 - 7:45 am

    For some reason, I have had a lateral leap which reminded me of the good old days of Carole Caplin, reports of Tony and Cherie smearing one another with papaya, watermelon and mud from the Mayan jungle. Such nostalgia. I then had the strangest of visions of what Jack Straw might be doing in nearby Blackburn this week-end other than indulging in peppered Tripe and Vinegar.

    All something of a diversion from the moral turpitude of those who sanction torture, or who direct those policies and support those alliances which result in the death and mutilation of (largely) brown-skinned people in far away nations. But sex in Britain has always been more sinful than calculated violence and illegal warfare.

    Meanwhile if, as expected, the Irish people vote in support of President-elect Bliar in today’s farcical second referendum, I commend a night of over-indulgence while attending to a piobaireachd – “Lament for the Harp Tree”, perhaps.

  29. anticant

    2 Oct, 2009 - 8:33 am

    Pay to be spanked? Not if Batty Hattie Harman has her way.

  30. Woobus

    2 Oct, 2009 - 10:38 am

    Hehe great come back and lovely comments. Will be back later to catch up on this one. Good work again Craig.

  31. Vronsky

    2 Oct, 2009 - 11:08 am

    If you can manage the act in question while kilted and playing the bagpipes (and as an old piper I can assure you it has often been attempted) then there is an extensive repertoire of suitable tunes:

    Haud the lass till I win at her

    I’ll Touzle your Kurchy

    Carlen is your Daughter Ready

    Lango Lee (‘stiff dick’ in Irish)

    Steer her up and had her gaan

    Lather awa’ wi’ your Oak Stick

    Up wi’t Ailly now

    Wot ye not whit I had yestreen

    And etc and etc. We have such a rich culture….

  32. dreoilin

    2 Oct, 2009 - 11:30 am

    “Meanwhile if, as expected, the Irish people vote in support of President-elect Bliar in today’s farcical second referendum”

    I’m on my knees in front of a statue as I write … But it looks like the last poll (55% Yes) will be accurate. This second referendum should never have been allowed by the Irish people. They (we) should have refused to vote. I recommend “Lather awa’ wi’ your Oak Stick”.

  33. anticant

    2 Oct, 2009 - 12:08 pm

    Oh dear – this reminds me of the man who boasted that he had practised 72 different sexual positions. His friend said he only knew one – the missionary position. “I’d forgotten that”, said the first man, “it makes 73″.

    Shagging while playing the bagpipes, forsooth – I knew Scots were weird, but this takes the biscuit.

    Gordon and Sarah? The mind boggles…..

  34. Jives

    2 Oct, 2009 - 1:03 pm

    Jings,crivvens,help ma boab!…wur Helen almost sounds jealous…

    Stupid small-minded bint.

    Helen FAIL.

  35. Vronsky

    2 Oct, 2009 - 1:51 pm

    Actually, now I think about it, wasn’t it one of the Lords Lovat who had his piper play to drown the screams of his lady while another of his servants cut her stays with a dirk? And they say we’re not great lovers! Helen needs to meet someone like that.

  36. technicolour

    2 Oct, 2009 - 1:58 pm

    er chaps, before you all get too excited, how do you know “helen” isn’t a man? this is the internet, you know.

  37. dreoilin

    2 Oct, 2009 - 3:54 pm

    hee hee … true ’nuff …

    But I’m not, so “chaps” is inappropriate!

  38. Roderick Russell

    2 Oct, 2009 - 6:13 pm

    The Guardian and MI5, MI6

    Anticant ?” Just to comment on your comment “The Guardian – once a great newspaper …. is these days a pathetic shadow of its former self. It respects neither facts nor comment” You only have to look at what happened when my wife and I visited The Guardian’s offices in Manchester back in 2005 to complain about the government cover-up and human rights abuse that we write about. What happened confirms Anticant’s worst fears about what The Guardian has become.

    2 hours after we left the Guardian’s office, my wife and I were threatened in the name of HRH. The following weekend my eldest son, then living in Birmingham, received a number of telephone death threats which he recorded and a vehicle was smashed into my apartment in Didsbury, Manchester. The Guardian subsequently “lost” all the correspondence I had handed them as evidence (it clearly shows then Minister Hazel Blears’ involvement with the cover-up ?” and copies of some of it are on the wiki). A month later in the middle of the night my son was woken up by a helicopter that was hovering right beside his bedroom window, and a year later shots were fired at my son in front of witnesses. You can imagine what having her children threatened for 10 years has done to his mother. Now The Guardian had every right not to publish my story, but it seems to me that The Guardian was on the side of the abusers since these little threatening incidents were clearly meant to punish us for going to the Guardian. It has been suggested that MI5/6 have penetrated the UK press, and everything I have experienced would suggest that this is true.

    I would also comment on the statement Craig made when he said “they concocted enough lies about me to fill a Trident submarine”. I have had much the same, with one smear after another. It is the big lie strategy and it is not the Labour Government that is Graig’s main problem, it is MI5, MI6 since they believe he has attacked the establishment who are their real masters. In my case they know that I have never done anything wrong, but they also know that what they have done to my family is so horrible that my telling the truth about what has happened is seen as a major threat.

    My story is outlined on my wiki. I should just add that we have concrete evidence that intelligence interferes with mail, email and telephone messages sent to me. Usually I can be contacted by anyone who is persistent.

    Roderick Russell

  39. George Dutton

    2 Oct, 2009 - 7:34 pm

    “They are known by the language they use: depraved sexual insults, bile, bigotry, threats, disinformation and character assassination. That’s right: I’m talking about “hasbarats,”…

    http://tinyurl.com/yd5r5qj

  40. Duncan McFarlane

    2 Oct, 2009 - 7:51 pm

    Anyone that, like “Helen Wright” can’t tell the moral difference between concensual sex and approving torture including sleep deprivation and beating over days and nights on end, of the kind that killed Baha Mousa in Iraq and many Afghans in Bagram in Afghanistan, doesn’t know their arse from their elbow anyway.

    By the way Helen you do know Craig is now married to the person you claim he was “taking advantage of” and that they have a child? You’re just lucky Craig doesn’t usually sue people or you’d be in court and paying out a large amount of money for your libel soon. You might want to remember in future, before posting, that that option’s always open to him.

  41. Polo

    2 Oct, 2009 - 7:57 pm

    @George Dutton

    “Lights, action, ouch!”

    Thanks for the link. We have a saying: filleann an feall ar an feallaire. Sort of means “hoisted on your own petard”.

    We need to keep the spotlight on these guys. Interesting the number of Trolls who have vanished off this site once the by-election was over.

  42. lwtc247

    2 Oct, 2009 - 8:10 pm

    “I am shocked. You mean there’s another way to have sex?”

    Hah hah hah :) Craig

    With laser like quips such as that, you make even me want to have sex with you.

    You Catholic Orangemen book is fantastic by the way. you are a brilliant author.

    //well… not quite, but you know what I mea ;)

  43. lwtc247

    2 Oct, 2009 - 8:11 pm

    eeermm… the not quite bit in in relation to the sex.

    Ahem!

  44. MJ

    2 Oct, 2009 - 8:20 pm

    Roderick Russell: I read your occasional postings here, have read your web page and am horrified by the obvious persecution you and your family have clearly suffered over the past few years.

    Apart from the fact that you are a former employee of Grosvenor International however you say nothing about the background of your case. What’s the context? What did you say or do? What do you know? You appear keen to draw a veil over this.

    If you were to elaborate further I’m sure it would be helpful to your cause.

  45. Anonymous

    2 Oct, 2009 - 8:21 pm

    @joe90 kane & Craig.

    While sexing away Craig, try preparing a haggis! That’s guaranteed to manke them groan in pleasure, and while wearing a Rabb C Nesbit string vest too… well, it just doesn’t get better than that!

  46. Duncan McFarlane

    2 Oct, 2009 - 8:38 pm

    I think it’s working already. If you google “Helen Wright” along with “Craig Murray” on the second page it brings up the result ‘Sex Ass – Adictomaniac’ (i don’t want to speculate on what kind of website that is)

  47. Marie (Kate James)

    2 Oct, 2009 - 8:51 pm

    I wasn’t aware there was another way to have sex!

    Who doesn’t like having her arse smacked, sex or no sex?! ;)

  48. George Laird

    2 Oct, 2009 - 9:22 pm

    Dear Helen

    This is a happy wee blog.

    Now you are spoiling it.

    Think happy thoughts.

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird

    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

  49. Ruth

    2 Oct, 2009 - 11:44 pm

    Roderick Russell

    I’m interested in contacting you but I couldn’t find your email. I know people who have been treated in a similar way to you by the intelligence services because what they know could reveal the huge corruption within the government/Establishment. I was wondering if some sort of organisation could be formed to share experiences, glean information and most of all publicise what’s really going on.

  50. Fred

    3 Oct, 2009 - 4:33 am

    “(“as experience shows that getting sex in the heading quintuples my traffic”

    Hah. Maybe it’ll bring Helen back.)”

    Craig’s already been to hell and back.

    “Ward 4 – Coldside – Helen Wright”. On reading this I thought it was the institution where she was being held and that, perhaps, she had a warm side…then I saw her mugshot. Helen Wrong methinks. Like Gaza: I’m glad I don’t live there.

  51. derek

    3 Oct, 2009 - 2:14 pm

    Let’s not jump to conclusions about which Helen Wright likes to make peurile posts attacking Craig.

    The Helen Wright making remarks about Craig in the comments at

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3724258/bad-signs-in-norwich-north-for-labour.thtml is quite clearly not a Scot.

  52. Fred

    3 Oct, 2009 - 3:24 pm

    Apology proffered. Sorry Helen. I’d still change that photie though.

  53. Anonymous

    3 Oct, 2009 - 6:06 pm

    Just found a letter I wrote to Time Out, a couple of years ago:

    Dear Time Out

    Reviewing the BBC documentary ‘The Ambassador’s Last Stand’, you call Craig Murray, who stood against Jack Straw in the election, the ‘disgraced ambassador’. Mr Murray was not disgraced. All seventeen charges brought against him by Jack Straw’s Foreign Office were proved to be false. They were brought after Mr Murray revealed that our government is knowingly using information gained from torturing people, including boiling them alive, in its ‘War Against Terror’.

    Mr Murray was standing up for decency and the truth. Your reviewer focuses on his ‘public school hair’. Why?

    Yours,

  54. Roderick Russell

    3 Oct, 2009 - 6:50 pm

    Comments to MJ & Ruth ?” Reply from Roderick Russell

    Thanks for your comments re my situation. My contact details are below. Because it can be difficult to get through to me sometimes, I am also enclosing two other contacts in Calgary – My daughter who is an Account Manager with an advertising agency here in Calgary. She has been threatened 3 times in connection with all this – here in Calgary by a hood who accosted her on the Street, in Aberdeen some years ago when she was a student at Aberdeen University, and she was present in the flat in Manchester when it was smashed into. The Peter contact is my brother in law. He is also a CA and is CFO of a large oil pipeline company. Now to answer your comments

    MJ referred to why I left Grosvenor International saying “You appear keen to draw a veil over this. If you were to elaborate further I’m sure it would be helpful to your cause.” I left by my choice having done an excellent job. There were a couple of things that I had observed that made me feel that Grosvenor was not a company that I wanted a permanent career with. For example ?” As I told the Manchester Police (in writing and verbally) back in 2004, an employee whom I referred to as Mr. X left the company: He was not only slandered professionally, but I know they used the intelligence services to do it. The other incident (which also didn’t involve me) was even more distasteful to me. I protested internally about both of them. I was even given a cactus at one point by the Chairman’s secretary because “I was so prickly”. This was not a company I wanted a long term career with, I had done an excellent job, and decided to leave. During my notice period I was twice asked by the Group President and Exec. Vice President to reverse my decision to leave.

    Now how this turned into a professional slandering I don’t know except that the company (in Vancouver) had a history of slandering other leavers. I have been told ?” they saw your decision to leave as rejection, and decided to reject you. ?” it was easy for them as it only took a 30 second phone call to MI6. All I can tell you is this – I had done an excellent and honest job for Grosvenor; I left by my choice and by my choice alone; I was twice asked by Grosvenor to reverse my decision to leave; the professional campaign of defamation rendered me unemployable in Canada. Hard to explain the logic; except it happened.

    Now the criminal intimidation is explainable. It is probably to stop any chance of a law suit for the defamation. though it may be that they are so arrogant that they are offended that I would dare challenge them, or perhaps MI5, MI6 overplayed their hand in the original slandering or have a high placed sadist associated with them. As for the cover-up conspiracy. You can see it for yourself just from the documentation. Those involved in the cover-up (Police, Home Office, MI5/6, CSIS, Cabinet Ministers ?” i.e. Hazel Blears ?” a Manchester judge and Canada’s Prime Minister) know whom they are protecting from justice.

    What you have to understand is this ?” These animals were so powerful and well connected that they didn’t need any excuse at all to set their dogs on me; it was easy for them. They probably didn’t even think about it ?” just made a 30 second phone call. In fact I believe that odd though it may be there were two causes. Firstly a group within Grosvenor International known as “the clique” (some of whom were heavy duty cocaine users) were known to slander others. My wife thinks they slandered me because of petty jealousies; I think they just indulged in extreme in group, out group behaviors and I was out group. Secondly there was a very senior executive who did not like leavers, and thought leaving was disloyal. He was the one whom I Know had used the intelligence services before.

    Ruth ?” You said “I was wondering if some sort of organization could be formed to share experiences, glean information and most of all publicize what’s really going on.” I would be very happy to participate. My contact details are below. Or if you leave your number somewhere I will call you.

    I should mention that MI5/6 & CSIS frequently control my email, post, and telephone and I have proof of this. However I can usually be reached with perseverance. I can also be reached through Peter Robertson – probertson@pembina.com (T: 403.231.7418 or 403.608.4665) or Amy Russell – Amy@karo.com (T: 403.690.8283).

    My own contact details are below.

    Roderick Russell

    #207, 1733 ?” 27 Ave. SW

    Calgary AB T2T 1G9

    403.229.0864

  55. Ruth

    3 Oct, 2009 - 7:42 pm

    Roderick Russell

    I can’t see that your reasons for the intimidation are strong enough for the intelligence services to become involved.

    There must be a deeper reason why you and other staff have been persecuted. Was there anything sensitive the company was involved in?

  56. dreoilin

    3 Oct, 2009 - 11:22 pm

    Grosvenor International? Is this about customs duty management systems? Why would there be so much fuss about your decision to leave? I’m totally lost here.

  57. dreoilin

    3 Oct, 2009 - 11:29 pm

    Let’s not jump to conclusions about which Helen Wright likes to make peurile posts attacking Craig.

    –derek

    Sure. But it would appear that she’s been here before.

    “What a racist tosser you are! Your English mum must be very proud of raising such an anti-English, racist scumbag to represent the family”.

    Posted by: Helen Wright at May 14, 2009 10:21 PM

    on this thread:

    http://tinyurl.com/q5u8ml

    Helen obviously likes to pop in from time to time, perhaps to add some kicks to her normal reading material.

  58. Ruth

    4 Oct, 2009 - 1:31 am

    Roderick Russell,

    What did/does Grosvenor International deal in?

  59. MJ

    4 Oct, 2009 - 12:10 pm

    Roderick: thanks for the background info. I finf it almost incredible that someone who resigned from a company for what appears to be reasons of personal principle should be trated in this way by officers of the State, not only in Canada but also in the UK. How does it come to be that a private company, or at least an individual in a private company, can wield such influence that he can call in the Intelligence Services to act as ‘heavies’ for what seems little more than a personal grudge?

    This Grosvenor International: is it an arm of the Duke of Westminster’s Grosvenor property empire?

  60. Ruth

    4 Oct, 2009 - 1:12 pm

    It may be quite possible that Roderick Russell at the time of his work at Grosvenor International was privy to certain information that the company doesn’t want revealed.

    Whether the Duke of Westminster is the owner or the front man of Grosvenor International I’d have very little doubt that as a major Establishment figure he would have access to the intelligence services

  61. Roderick Russell

    4 Oct, 2009 - 7:13 pm

    If there is a deeper reason I don’t know what it is? I will tell you that slandering an honest man out of a career is a pretty viscious thing to do, and I expect that everything just ratcheted up from there in stages.

    As for the cover-up conspiracy. You can see it for yourself just from the documentation. Those involved in the cover-up (Police, Home Office, MI5/6, CSIS, Cabinet Ministers ?” i.e. Hazel Blears ?” a Manchester judge and Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper) know whom they are protecting from justice.

    Roderick Russell

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