Obama Is Wrong On Both Counts

by craig on December 2, 2009 9:53 am in Afghanistan

Obama loves his rhetoric, and his speech on the Afghan surge was topped by a rhetorical flourish:

“Our cause is just, our resolve unshaken”.

He is of course wrong on both counts.

The occupation of Afghanistan by the US and its allies is there to prop up the government of President Karzai. Karzai’s has always been an ultra-corrupt government of vicious warlords and drugs barons. I have been pointing this out for years,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-469983/Britain-protecting-biggest-heroin-crop-time.html#ixzz0VS78HVR1

The CIA is up to its usual tricks again supporting the drug running of key warlords loyal to them. They are also setting up death squads on the Central American model, in cooperation with Blackwater.

Fortunately Karzai’s rigging of his re-election was so blatant that the scales have fallen from the eys of the public and even the mainstream media. Politicians no longer pretend we are promoting democracy in Afghanistan.

Karzai comes directly from the Bush camp and was put in place because of his role with Unocal in developing the Trans Afghanistan Gas Pipeline project. That remains a chief strategic goal. The Asian Development Bank has agreed finance to start construction in Spring 2011. It is of course a total coincidence that 30,000 extra US troops will arrive six months before, and that the US (as opposed to other NATO forces) deployment area corresponds with the pipeline route.

Obama’s claim that “Our cause is just” ultimately rests on the extraordinary claim that, eight years after the invasion, we are still there in self-defence. In both the UK and US, governments are relying on the mantra that the occupation of Afghanistan protects us from terrorism at home.

This is utter nonsense. The large majority of post 9/11 terror incidents have been by Western Muslims outraged by our invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Put bluntly, if we keep invading Muslim countries, of course we will face a violent backlash. The idea that because we occupy Afghanistan a Muslim from Dewsbury or Detroit disenchanted with the West would not be able to manufacture a bomb is patent nonsense. It would be an infinitely better strategy to make out theoretical Muslim less disenchanted by not attacking and killing huge numbers of his civilian co-religionists.

Our cause is unjust.

We are responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and for the further of radicalisation of Muslim communities worldwide. That threatens a perpetual war – which is of course just what the military-industrial complex and the security industry want. They have captured Obama.

Fortunately, our resolve is shaken.

The ordinary people of the UK and US have begun in sufficient numbers to see through this perpetual war confidence trick; they realise there is nothing in it for them but dead youngsters and high taxes. That is why Obama made a very vague promise – which I believe in its vagueness and caveats to be deliberate deceit – that troops will start to leave in 2011.

Today’s promises of 5,000 additional NATO troops are, incidentally, empty rhetoric. I gather from friends in the FCO that firm pledges to date amount to 670.

A well-placed source close to the Taliban in Pakistan tells me that the Afghan Taliban and their tribal allies have a plan. As the US seeks massively to expand the Afghan forces, they are feeding in large numbers of volunteers. I suspect that while we may see the odd attack on their trainers, the vast majority will get trained, fed, paid and equipped and bide their time before turning en masse. This is nothing new; it is precisely the history of foreign occupations in the region and the purchase of tribal auxiliaries and alliances.

65 Comments

  1. arsalan goldberg

    2 Dec, 2009 - 10:57 am

    “The occupation of Iraq by the US and its allies is there to prop up the government of President Karzai.”

    ???

  2. Roger Whittaker

    2 Dec, 2009 - 10:58 am

    Typo: “Iraq” for Afghanistan. There are a couple of other minor typos too.

  3. Craig

    2 Dec, 2009 - 11:06 am

    Thanks

  4. writerman

    2 Dec, 2009 - 11:19 am

    Dear Craig,

    Your right on most counts, as usual. I really have a lot of respect and affection for you. Your brain, and heart, are, in the right place, and this is unusual. In an ideal world I’d like to have seen you flying still higher and really gaining position of influence inside the diplomatic corps. Only this, given your integrity, and the fact you were perceived to have ‘gone native’ wasn’t realistic. But come the revolution you’ll be back and in charge this time! Though I feel you may be better off where you are. Lord Murray may not have evolved into the nice chap you seem to be. Just thought I’d get that off my chest, must have something to do with listening to too much John Martyn last night!

  5. anno

    2 Dec, 2009 - 11:19 am

    Excellent work. Lord Shaftesbury succeeded in bringing the slave trade to an end on ethical grounds because there was an ethical masse to listen to and support him. Thatcher spawn are still busy fiddling with The Market to get it working again and Blair spawn are still hoping that neo-colonialism can be spun into a success story before the next election. I rest my hope on the present generation of 20+, like my own children. Their cynicism is caustic and comprehensive. Put Brown into a vat of that and all you will have left is a couple of gallstones. This new generation will be ready for the total defeat of the West across all its illegal violent adventures, and I have strong hopes for their embracing the religion that our leaders so patently detest.

  6. Dick the Prick

    2 Dec, 2009 - 11:51 am

    Cheers Craig – classic. Perhaps even a little ***applause*** before the full horror of my corrupt and disgusting government’s activity hits home (again and again).

  7. writerman

    2 Dec, 2009 - 11:56 am

    That great Roman ‘spin-doctor’, Cicero, was a master orator, but he understood that facility with language ammounted to very little indeed, and was hollow rhetoric without a core of moral substance inside the language. Obama and his speech writers, just don’t get this at all. I suppose it is a bit subtle.

    Cicero, though from relatively humble origins rose to the heights of political influence in very ‘interesting times’ somewhat like our own. Cicero saw the age of Roman republicanism, and form of ‘democracy’, replaced by full-on Empire, with the military machine and constant warfare at it’s centre. Does this sound familiar? Democracy and Imperialism don’t seem to mix.

    It’s hard to believe that Obama’s team of scriptwriters, sorry, speachwriters; have spent months cooking up the thin cup of soup he delivered last night. Three months and that tired catalogue of cliches and absurd arguments is the best they can come up with!?

    If this is an indication of their abilities, how on earth can one have confidence in them to fight a war?

    Obama doesn’t even sound like he really believes a word of it does he? I mean he’d have to be stupid to swallow that lot, wouldn’t he? He sounded like George Bush had crawled inside him. It was rather flat presentation for something so important. What’s happened to the guy?

    This idea of hitting the Taliban with a massive knockout punch and then leaving victorious lacks all credibility. What if the Taliban simply decide not to turn up and enter the ring at the alloted space and time? Isn’t this what asymetrical warfare is all about?

    Isn’t Obama the American version of Tony Blair, a silver-tongued lawyer on the make? Given his slumping numbers in the opinion polls it seems the public has twigged him, and aren’t fooled anymore.

    What’s terrible and tragic, is that so many people are going to loose their lives and become maimed, in this disasterous, and bloody, charade.

  8. Abe Rene

    2 Dec, 2009 - 1:32 pm

    Here is the full text of Obama’s speech:

    http://www.necn.com/Boston/Politics/2009/12/01/Obama-on-Afghanistan-Our/1259720982.html

    Two quotes that struck me:

    “Although a legitimate government was elected by the Afghan people, it has been hampered by corruption, the drug trade, an under-developed economy, and insufficient Security Forces.”

    ” I opposed the war in Iraq precisely because I believe that we must exercise restraint in the use of military force, and always consider the long-term consequences of our actions.”

    For the record: I am an admirer of Barack Obama. I believe that he is aware of his difficult responsibilities. I do not believe that he is guilty of either deceit or hypocrisy, and wish him well.

  9. Jives

    2 Dec, 2009 - 2:55 pm

    I reckon you’ve pretty much nailed the situation Craig.

    Thanks for speaking Truth.

  10. Roger Whittaker

    2 Dec, 2009 - 4:22 pm

    Craig: do you have a definitive reference for the path and projected start date of the pipeline as currently planned?

  11. Paul J. Lewis

    2 Dec, 2009 - 4:23 pm

    Today’s episode of Democracy Now! focuses largely on Afghanistan and might be of interest:

    http://www.democracynow.org/shows/2009/12/2

  12. writerman

    2 Dec, 2009 - 5:15 pm

    If, the United States is really in mortal, existential danger, from terrorists in ‘safe havens’ in the border areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan, surely 30,000 extra soldiers is hardly adequate, and for a limited time period? Wouldn’t, given the nature of the perceived threat, a possible attack with nuclear weapons, require another 300,000 soldiers to do the job properly, and defend the homeland?

    Obama seems confused, is there an existential threat, directed at American cities or not? If there is, then the entire nation should be put on a wartime footing. Conscription introduced to spread the military burden evenly, and the army enlarged by a million men. One could also bring in a special wartime tax directed specifically at the vast wealth of the richest Ameircans so they pay their fair share, as at present it’s not their children doing the fighting and dieing.

    Secondly, how big is a ‘safe haven’ exactly? How big does it have to be to qualify as a safe haven? If it’s the size of small harbour, where the word comes from, why build one in Afghanistan at all, surely there are safer places?

    How stupid is Obama really? How stupid and sheltered are the people around him, feeding him this junk to read? I think their arrogance and stupidity directly reflects their power. They think they are so powerful and untouchable, that they can present this rubbish to the public, without consequences.

    Obama is a puppet.

  13. Ed

    2 Dec, 2009 - 5:55 pm

    “Karzai comes directly from the Bush camp and was put in place because of his role with Unocal in developing the Trans Afghanistan Gas Pipeline project.”

    You do know there has never been any evidence to support this assertion about Karzai working for Unocal, don’t you? Don’t let little things like that stop you though.

  14. tony_opmoc

    2 Dec, 2009 - 6:00 pm

    Craig,

    I apologise for posting a complete load of bollocks on your website, when I am exceedingly drunk, usually after seeing a great band.

    But you said this

    “The large majority of post 9/11 terror incidents have been by Western Muslims outraged by our invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq.”

    Look, I used to make bombs when I was at school when I was 15. I did sodium/water bombs. I even floated bombs over the school playground supported in a hydrogen filled balloon..

    I even convinced my science teacher that I had made nitro-glycerine.

    After I had got a Grade 1 “O” Level, I thought – well why not. My mate and I at lunch time decided to wind him up.

    We just got a bunsen burner, and burnt an extremely large hole in a piece of wood. We then got some ordinary glycerine and mixed it in a glass beaker with water.

    It was lunch time at school – and he was in the Staff Room..

    We left all the evidence in the Science Lab…

    I ran down to the Staff Room

    And faked a panic…I said – Sir, I’m sorry and cried…We have got a big problem you have got to come now…

    We showed him – the large burn mark, and showed him the glycerine and water…

    He went into a complete panic…and went thumbing through his Chemistry Books trying to find out how to neutralize Nitro-Glycerine.

    I said Sir – Are You sure You should be doing this? Shouldn’t We Phone the Fire Brigade NOW?

    And His Face Showed The Most Enormous Relief, when I said to him

    I am winding you up. It is a joke. It is just Glycerine and Water…

    Now if I really wanted to, I could probably make a real bomb, but I got over this teenage nonsense very quickly and before I started my “A” levels…

    The examples you have read about and convinced you that Muslim kids are making bombs in the UK, are not supported by any of the Evidence that has come out in a Criminal Court. They may have been convicted, but their expertise demonstrated the Chemical Knowledge of a 5 Year Old. Basically That Stuff Wouldn’t Work. The IRA of course knew how to do it, but that is a completely different matter, situation and education.

    As to why the US is in Afghanistan, I don’t even Buy “Your Analysis”. That may well have been true 10 years ago, but you simply do not waste such enormous resources just to protect one fucking Pipeline that has not yet been built.

    I never meant any harm to anyone, and never caused any harm. If my science teacher had had a heart attack, then of course I would have felt incredibly guilty. In reality, I was just thanking him for being such a Brilliant Teacher and such a Nice Bloke.

    This was of course shortly after WWII. If any kid pulled stunts like that now, the SWAT squad would Execute them before they had said BANG.

    Tony

  15. Steve

    2 Dec, 2009 - 6:03 pm

    “You do know there has never been any evidence to support this assertion about Karzai working for Unocal, don’t you? Don’t let little things like that stop you though.”

    I would be very interested to see this point of contention clarified as I have seen the various claims and rebuttals on this issue.

  16. Craig

    2 Dec, 2009 - 6:08 pm

    Ed,

    Arrant nonsense. I have actually discussed this with the ex-Chairman of Unocal, who now lives in London.

  17. tony_opmoc

    2 Dec, 2009 - 6:21 pm

    I am listening to XFM. It is a rock music radio station. Did I just hear that the UK Government had committed to pull all Troops out of Afghanistan? Or Did I imagine it?

    Because It Really Fucking Annoys me meeting legless English Soldiers who have been fighting a war to protect a VIRTUAL Fucking Pipeline?

    Tony

  18. Greengorilla

    2 Dec, 2009 - 7:11 pm

    The likelihood of home-grown terrorism must also be questioned. So far the evidence produced of this has been pretty flimsy. Also, it is likely that entrapment has often been used by the spooks as well as terrorists claiming to be from Al Qaeda but who are really working with the CIA and MI6.

  19. Greengorilla

    2 Dec, 2009 - 7:13 pm

    Correction: that should have read ‘Al Qaeda’ or more appropriately Al-CIA-duh.

  20. zkuzapo

    2 Dec, 2009 - 7:15 pm

    Did anyone catch the interview on this morning’s BBC Breakfast news (TV) with the US ambassador? I did a double take when he stated that “we are in Pakistan for the long haul”. Seems like the presenter couldn’t believe his ears either because he asked him to clarify whether he actually meant to say Afghanistan. “No”, the ambassador said,”you heard me right. We are in Pakistan for the long haul.”

    Anybody else see the interview? I’ve been trying to find it on youtube, etc but it seems to have disappeared.

  21. Ian Jury

    2 Dec, 2009 - 7:35 pm

    Some interesting statistics as stated in a written answer in the UK House of Commons on 23 April 2009 by Bill Rammell, (Minister of State, Foreign & Commonwealth Office; Harlow, Labour)

    Estimates of the production of heroin/morphine in Afghanistan by the UN Office of Drugs and Crime (UNODC) since 2000 are set out in the following table.

    Estimate of heroin/morphine derivatives available for export

    Metric tons

    2000 328

    2001 19

    2002 340

    2003 360

    2004 430

    2005 420

    2006 555

    2007 666

    2008 630

    Source:UNODC.

    Source:http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2009-04-23c.269810.h

  22. tony_opmoc

    2 Dec, 2009 - 8:55 pm

    Well, I always thought the best film I had ever seen was American Beauty, and that the Best War Film I had ever seen Was Apocalypse Now, and That The Best Dramatic Films Were British…

    A Group of Youngsters Enlist To Fight in Afghanistan

    “They are sent to a boot camp, in Uzbekistan, where they are submitted to the brutality and abuses of a disturbed Sergeant during the training period, increasing their camaraderie. Then they are airborne to Bagram Base in Afghanistan; join the 9th Company; and move to the Khowst Province, 3234 m height, to defend the mountain and protect the convoys with supplies. When the army retreat from Afghanistan, they are forgotten and slaughtered in the mountains.”

    The Russians Are in a League Of Their Own…

    Last Night on Film4, was Broadcast “9th Company”. I am watching it now.

    It is Completely AWESOME

    It’s in Russian.

    # Before the film was shot, young artists met veterans of the Afghan War – the soldiers of the legendary 9th company. Some were introduced to the prototypes of their characters.

    # Set domestic box office record in Russia, in 2005, generating $ 7,700,000 in five days. Surpassed Turetskiy gambit (2005) in October 2005 to become the highest-grossing movie in post-communist Russia.

    # Was a Russian candidate for Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film nomination in 2007.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417397/

    Tony

  23. selma

    2 Dec, 2009 - 9:05 pm

    Well said.

  24. Paul

    2 Dec, 2009 - 9:27 pm

    If its all for a pipeline they can never leave, not if they dont want it to be constantly sabotaged! Also always wondered how a bloody big pipe behaves in an area of seismic activity?

  25. Suhayl Saadi

    2 Dec, 2009 - 9:40 pm

    A brilliantly cogent and incisive post! Sums it all up in a scattering of black letters – eight years and an ocean of blood and mendacity.

    I’m afraid Obama would never have gotten anywhere near to where he’s gotten if he hadn’t already been bought, lock, stock and barrel by the military-industrial robber barons on Wall Street. That’s not say that some of his domestic policies are not (relatively) good. But as far as foreign policy goes, it’s solid sky blitzkrieg and Panzer divisions turning the earth to metal.

  26. Key is Red

    2 Dec, 2009 - 10:05 pm

    Everything the government wanted, it got. It wanted America to be attacked (“New Pearl Harbor”), that’s like asking a car to run you over so you can collect the insurance. The CIA created Al Qaeda, Dick Cheney went from the Pentagon, to Halliburton, back to the Whitehouse and people on the half side think there is nothing wrong. You made torture a aprt of the war on terror, you have turned the drug running from Mxico to Afghanistan a trillion dollar industry, you get caught lying to the world about false claims made that you use to slaughter women and children on top of that get caught enforcing sanctions based on more lies and call for more sanctions, you fund communist countries and are now financially indebted to them and then say you are still doing it for honour and freedom. America’s Christians, like Pat Robertson make deals with the devil, and you still think Jesus is going to bless America as the saviour of the world. America, burn in hell. NOW!!!

  27. tony_opmoc

    2 Dec, 2009 - 10:09 pm

    I’m about an hour into this Russian film “9th Company” and The Characters In This Film have Been Developed So Much That I am Really Interested In Them. This is before any actual War “Action” has started. They could have made this Film with any of the Shaven Head English Working Class Lunatics that I Know Who Go To Football Matches To Fight…

    All the Russian Kids Could Easily Be English and Vice Versa. What they All really Want To Do Is Fight For Fun – Millwall Supporters Don’t Really Want To Kill Oldham Supporters – And Will Have a Drink With Them After – and Then Get Pissed…

    When They Ain’t at Football Matches They Have Nice Girlfriends…

    American Films Don’t Seem To be Able To Portray This Reality, and Americans Have Absolutely No Understanding Of Completely Different Cultures…

    I Would Be Seriously Impressed If a British Officer Explained To His Soldiers What Muslim Culture Was Really Like before Going Into Battle as Well as The Russian Officer Portyayed In This Film.

    An American Officer Would have as Much Chance of Explaining Anything if The Enemy Was in The Film ET, Ot any Human Being In The Rest Of The World That Was Not an American Soldier.

    I’m Going to Have to Start Watching More Chinese Films.

    Tony

  28. writerman

    2 Dec, 2009 - 10:13 pm

    It’s really, really, tragic; and intensely irritating, listening to Obama’s speech, and then carefully reading it over. If I’m honest, I think it was disgusting, vile, extraordinary, and delusional.

    Obama and the people surrounding him in the Whitehouse, are accutely aware that they are the elite of Ameircan society. They have received the most expensive education money can buy. The universities they attended inculcate in their students the attitudes of the ruling elite, which the most able, selected and recruited into. But only if they show exceptional aptitude and a willingness to internalise the values of the ruling elite, and perhaps even more importantly, willingness to serve the elite with close to absolute and unquestioning loyalty.

    In return one can expect fame, power, and wealth beyond the dreams of ordinary men. Obama and the circle around him in the Whitehouse are all multi-millionaires. His chief economic advisors come from Wall Street, and have made ten of millions of dollars there.

    But these people are not the demi-gods they appear to be. They seem to be the best and the brightest, but this is an illusion. They are deluded. Listening to Obama when gets the distinct impression that he actually believes in the public ideology and foundation mythology of the United States, and this is a fatal flaw in a ruling elite, when they actually, sincerely, believe in their own ‘national lies’. That way leads to disaster for an empire, because it leads to the rulers becoming detached from reality, prefering an attachment to their myths.

    In its most extreme form, it’s like Hitler in his bunker under the surface of Berlin, refusing to see reality approaching, moving invisible and non-existant armies around the table, dreaming of past glories, and afraid to see the world around him for what it really is. It’s a cronic failure of the imagination and too much imagining at the same time, and it all ultimately leads towards disaster.

  29. Mike

    2 Dec, 2009 - 10:18 pm

    Agree with your assessment on Obama’s folly, Craig.Some interesting predictions on here:

    http://afghancentral.blogspot.com/

  30. Suhayl Saadi

    2 Dec, 2009 - 10:44 pm

    Tony, while in general I agree with your thesis, I think one ought to be careful about referring to ‘Americans’ as though all 300 million of them were the same. I am all for attacking the policies and structures of the imperial entity whose command and control centre resides in the power-blocs of the USA. I think that’s different from talking about ‘Amercians this’ and ‘Americans that’, if only because it seems to reflect the essentialising sorts of things said by those who believe that ‘The Muslims this’ or ‘The Muslims that’ (or ‘The Jews this’, etc.), but also possibly because it gives those to attempt to deflect genuine anti-imperialist critique an excuse to brand us all as simply ‘anti-American’ and therefore in some way, xenophobic, irrational and extremist.

    As in Britain, a substantial number of Americans are disgusted by their empire’s actions. I don’t know any Amercian soldiers personally, so I don’t know what their officers’ level of knowledge of ‘other’ cultures might be. I agree with you about most Hollywood movies, and to a large extent currently dominant aspects of mass corporatist entertainment ‘culture’. It sounds like a very good Russian film; there have been many great Russian films, of course.

    However, don’t forget Russian Army atrocities in Chechnya and Afghanistan (in the 1980s). The most violent and racist (I would say, Anti-Semitic, in fact, because that’s what they are displaying) Israeli soldiers, reportedly, are those who hail from Russia, esp. those who fought in, or had some dealings with, Afghanistan.

    Let us not abandon complexity in the midst of our justifiable anger, for the world is complex and that delicate sense of humanity is all we have. Furthermore, in my view, it is the modus operandum on which liberatory discourse must be based if it is to avoid the hopeless paradigm of duality.

  31. Vronsky

    2 Dec, 2009 - 10:59 pm

    Just a couple of comments on the above:

    @greengorilla

    I don’t think there’s anything implausible about ‘home-grown terrorism’. I am very angry at what’s happening to Muslims in the Middle east, and I’m no Muslim. If I am angry, it seems to me a reasonable inference that at least some Muslims here must be considering how they can most effectively express similar dismay, and at least some of those will be considering violence as a response to violence. After all, the grievances motivating the IRA of the 60s – while perfectly real – were of much lesser weight. I expect that as you say there will be many opportunities for entrapment and agent provocateurs arising from this, but on the whole I am surprised at the restraint of Muslims, here and elsewhere.

    @tony

    As a child (aged 11/12 in the early 60s) I knew how to make pipe bombs, and I made them and detonated them – there was quite a craze for them at one time. I won’t detail the recipe, but with two readily available (then) ingredients and a piece of 22mm copper pipe you could make a very dangerous explosion. Local shopkeepers must have been warned against selling one of the ingredients to children, as one of them once asked me why I wanted it. ‘For the garden’ I said, and he handed it over.

  32. tony_opmoc

    2 Dec, 2009 - 11:12 pm

    Or to put it this way…

    I would take 10 Russian Kids and 10 English Kids Trained To Fight Against 1000 Afghan Soldiers in Their Home Territory and The Afghans Whould Kill Them All…

    I would take 10 Russian Kids and 10 English Kids Trained to Fight Against 1000 American Rich Fat Slobs…

    And They Would be Eating Them for Breakfast.

    The Afghans Have So Far Attacked only With RPG’s at Bagram Airbase

    I’m about 90 Minutes Into The Film. I have to take it in small doses. Much Heavier Than Lost or Flashforward – That’s Puppy Soap

    This Film 9 ???? (Russia) is Better than Dr Zhivago and Goes On For Even Longer or so it seems. I saw Dr Zhivago in 1965 in the Largest Cinema in Manchester sat NEAR THE FRONT

    Tony

  33. anno

    2 Dec, 2009 - 11:48 pm

    writerman

    Obama and Brown are focussed on a new world order and when they talk world politics they are in a dream fantasy. They have been completely bought, blackmailed and bludgeoned into obedience. Like kids they don white sheets pretending to be ghosts for their spooky role play. Then they expect to be taken seriously empathising with bereaved army mums and the medically uninsured. It is difficult to know if they are men who have been brainwashed into a Masonic cult, or Zombies who have been cross-bred with humanity. The oil pipe is just an excuse for their Satanity.

    Either way I agree with Craig that the outcome of their plans will be humiliating failure, having achieved nothing but chaos and terror in the world. We have no choice but to shout out our condemnation as strongly as we can so that future generations cannot accuse us of condoning their crimes.

  34. Greengorilla

    3 Dec, 2009 - 12:19 am

    @Vronsky, the ‘War on Terror’ was a fake scare started by the Us and adopted by its side-kick the UK in order to justify imperialist wars abroad and the implementation of domestic repression. The concept of home-grown Islamic terrorism is as much part of that fake war as is the idea that Afpak is at the heart of terrorism against the West.

    The Islamic community is a large and disparate thing. The idea that it has at its heart a group of hard-core militants hell-bent on destroying the West and the Great Satan is merely part of that nonsensical US ‘War on Terror’, just as nonsensical as Reds under the Bed ever was.

    Muslims may rightfully feel angry and insulted at the racism meted out on them by the stupid white man but that doesn’t mean that there are preparing to wage war in a Twenty First century crusade.

    The only crusaders around are those of the US-led Military-Industrial Complex with their deathly doctrine of Endless War.

  35. Greengorilla

    3 Dec, 2009 - 12:45 am

    Craig, in the context of your article above please see The Obama Puppet by Paul Craig Roberts at http://www.counterpunch.com/roberts12022009.html

  36. Richard

    3 Dec, 2009 - 12:51 am

    “Let us not abandon complexity in the midst of our justifiable anger, for the world is complex and that delicate sense of humanity is all we have”.

    Yes. Thank you for the reminder, Suhayl.

    It’s often said that “Truth is the first casualty of war”. but I’m beginning to suspect it’s ‘just’ collateral damage, complexity was the real target.

  37. Courtenay Barnett

    3 Dec, 2009 - 12:52 am

    A US SOLDIER WRITES AND SAYS IT ALL…

    ” Anonymous said…

    How many people do we intend to kill to obtain whatever is our objective in Afghanistan? The Soviet Union killed a million before leaving… the flight schools in Florida were the training camps that made the tragedy for 9/11 possible. And the individuals responsible were not even from Afghanistan?”17 of the hijackers were Saudi Arabians! What threat are these Afghanistans? That is one of the poorest nations in the world. They don’t have missiles, they don’t have nuclear weapons, no air force, they don’t even have a helicopter. What kind of threat do they pose to the U.S. that justifies killing them?”

    All for what? Answer: nothing–save making a lot of money for a few corporate heads that invest in the military industrial complex. Iraq and Afghanistan continue as purposeless wars fought by a few American young men and women while the rest of Americans eat pizza, drink beer and cheer their favorite NFL teams.

    The disconnect remains SO obscene after eight years as to set the benchmark for immorality, financial debauchery and spiritual obscenity. How can 535 men and women along with two presidents of the United States kill SO many people without purpose? For how much longer? To what end?

    The Vietnam War proved a complete waste of money, time and 58,300 American lives along with 350,000 horribly wounded. Subsequently, studies show between 150,000 to 200,000 American veterans eventually committed suicide from their war traumas. Additionally, Vietnam caused countless divorces and fatherless children as well as drug and alcohol abuse that ravaged hundreds of thousands of veterans. Several million Vietnamese died. After 10 years, we vacated Vietnam while accomplishing nothing.

    President Lyndon Baines Johnson started the war with his contrived “Gulf of Tonkin Resolution” that created his ‘reason’ for waging war against North Vietnam. In reality, that country suffered a civil war with no threat to the United States whatsoever. I remember my drill sergeant at Fort Benning barking at us, “We pledge our lives to Father Johnson for freedom. Now move out!” Johnson proved one of the most corrupt presidents in U.S. history. When he absorbed the enormity of his mistake, it broke him and he died a deeply depressed human being.Bush will do likewise.

    28 September 2009 03:26 “

  38. tony_opmoc

    3 Dec, 2009 - 1:21 am

    And Sure Us Brits Did Carmageddon. We Even Had Bruce 666 Fame of Iron Maiden and Commerical Pilot Who Brings Stranded Holidaymakers Home Doing The MUSIC…

    And The Americans Respond With This…

    So This is How American & British Kids Are Now Programmed For War

    I hadn’t played a War Game in years, but a week ago my Son Bought “Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2″

    This game was developed by a company called Infinity Ward, and Call of Duty has sold Millions of Copies Worldwide…

    Robert “fourzerotwo” Bowling (Infinity Ward’s creative strategist) was a U.S. Marine for a few years…

    Now sure, I am aware that Computer War Games can be exceedingly violent, but even my Son was “surprised” with this…

    This is a Youtube video of part of the Game. It starts after about 20 seconds. Warning Prepare to be shocked if you click on this…

    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 – Airport Mission

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa5d3UhTmAg

    Tony

  39. tony_opmoc

    3 Dec, 2009 - 1:42 am

    Look, I Know Video Games. Of Course I am not Nearly as Talented as Jeff Minter, but he didn’t have the Hardware To Play On That I Did…

    He just had a Pong Machine, and I Had a Distributed Array Processor to Test…

    Not that I did any video games on that…

    But I did when They Fired Me and Bought a Commodore VIC with 16K Expansion and 6502 Hardware Assembler…

    The Weirdest Thing is That on One of Minter’s Websites is a Picture Of Someone who Looks Exactly Like Me…

    Now Whilst I have been to loads of Games Events and Met Lemmy from Motorhead, I have Absolutely No Recollection Whatsoever of that Picture Being Taken.

    I am almost Certain I Wasn’t There, and it is not a picture of Me…

    I have Never Met Jeff Minter, though I have met some of his Friends.

    He Did Revenge of The Mutant Camels

    Sure I had an Amiga as well.

    Tony

  40. Stinking Jew SHIT

    3 Dec, 2009 - 1:54 am

    Thanks for showing me exactly what you are;

    Stinking Jew SHIT.

    Many thanks.

  41. tony_opmoc

    3 Dec, 2009 - 2:06 am

    I can’t watch it all now I am crying my heart out

    Tony

  42. tony_opmoc

    3 Dec, 2009 - 2:21 am

    Stinking Jew SHIT,

    I have absolutely No Hereditary Connection whatsoever to ANY Stinking Jew SHIT

    Some of My Fathers and Grand Fathers Might Have Fucked Anglo Saxons

    But Most Of My Genes Are From The Western Coast Of The British Islands and France

    I am CELTIC

    And Jews are Pussies We Eat For BREAKFAST

    Tony

  43. Richard

    3 Dec, 2009 - 2:31 am

    I don’t understand why usenet is dying, it works so much better than this web-based stuff – everybody has their own killfile. Decide somebody’s a robotic nuisance and you can make them be invisible.

    “Just sayin’”.

    Really, this blog deserves a higher SNR in its comments.

    This probably doesn’t help it there, either. Ho hum, such is life.

  44. tony_opmoc

    3 Dec, 2009 - 2:46 am

    I admit I have shagged a Girl who was from Eastern European Descent.

    But I Didn’t ask what her Religion was or that of Her Parents…

    And I Did Fall In Love With a Manchester Girl Who Was of Pakistani Descent

    But I Din’t Notice What Colour She Was, Nor If She Was a Muslim

    It Never Ocurred To Me To ask Such Questions and Sure I Wanted To Shag Her, But The Moment I Told Her I Was in Love With Her, Her Parents Made Her Disappear From Me…

    They Were Being Incredibly Racist Towards Me in My Own Country

    They Sent Her To an Arranged Marriage in Pakistan

    Pakistan was a Complete Alien Country To Her…

    She had Never Been There and Grew Up Wit White English Kids Like Me. We Totally Accepted Her as One Of Us.

    She used to Drink a Pint of Shandy in West Gorton Working Mens Club Right Opposite To ICL where She Helped To Test Computers With Me.

    She Disappeared and My Dad Died and I was Heartbroken

    Its been mostly Blonde Lancashire and Yorkshire Girls since then

    Tony

  45. Campbell

    3 Dec, 2009 - 2:56 am

    Thanks. It is a rare occasion, particularly over the past ten to fifteen years, to hear some truth.

  46. tony_opmoc

    3 Dec, 2009 - 3:21 am

    I am almost but not completely certain that any of my Ex-Girlfriends Had Children That Were Fathered By Me… Sure I know their Kids Before and After – I was sometimes their temporary Dad…and Yes I know…

    But I would be Completely Amazed If Any Of These Kids – If They Actually Went There – Weren’t Bring Food and Material To The Palestinians…

    There is absolutely NO WAY they Would Shoot Innocent Kids

    That is Not What ANYONE In My Life Would Ever Do Regardless Of Their Culture, Religion or Colour Of Their Skin

    Only NAZIS in Israel and America Do That.

    Tony

  47. Kahoneez

    3 Dec, 2009 - 4:42 am

    The party first and Constitution last crowd will easily except the ” New Normal ” and I hate that term the new normal , its kind of Orwellian .

    Liberals will except the MYTH , he’s just doin it to clean up Bush’s mess ” DAMN , he’s gotta be telling the truth , Bush Bad … Obama Good . When they BOTH are continuing the Pentagon’s long , long long term goal of OCCUPATION of the region .

    Phase 1. Bush Phase 2. Obama … Phase 3. the next Republican Pres. ” to clean up his mess ” and on and on and on and on and on and on and on .

  48. Coleen Rowley

    3 Dec, 2009 - 6:46 am

    Thanks Craig! Tonight we “took over” downtown Minneapolis to demonstrate against Obama’s escalation of war on Afghanistan: http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpp/news/Anti-War-Protesters-Downtown-dec-02-2009

    I don’t think Obombya leveled at all with the American people.

  49. writerman

    3 Dec, 2009 - 6:54 am

    Just a few recent examples of Obama’s other ‘wrongs’ that illustrate the true direction of his ‘reforming’, and ‘peace-loving’ administration.

    First the Whitehouse refuses to sign up to an international treaty banning anti-personel landmines.

    Second, the Whitehouse, covertly supports the coup in Honduras, where their mildly reformist president is removed by the military. The Whitehouse then quickly recognises the result of the undemocratic election that follows the coup, bestowing legitimacy on it.

    US begins massive project to ‘re-colonize’ Colombia, constructing bases that give them potential ‘control’ over entire continent, and at the same time they refuse to deny that nuclear weapons are part of their contingency plans for regional ‘stability.’

    The countries of Latin America that had hoped to see Obama publically renounce the odious ‘Monrow Doctrine’, instead see the pious, peace candidate, actually vastly expanding the US military presence in their region.

  50. GREYDOG

    3 Dec, 2009 - 7:54 am

    Obama is a corporate shill spokesmodel and a total disgrace, just like every U.S. president since LBJ.

  51. rogerh

    3 Dec, 2009 - 8:48 am

    Surely TAP is a dead duck for the forseeable future. Anyway, the stated purpose is to take gas to India – not our problem!

    By the time Afghanistan is peaceful the Tukmenistan gasfield will have emptied into Russia and China. So a pipe from Quetta to Karachi looks a poor option.

    So surely TAP is not a reason to be there, so what is the reason? Apart from giving armies something to do I can see no useful purpose in being there.

    rogerh

  52. ingo

    3 Dec, 2009 - 9:40 am

    thanks for that Craig.

    It will make for more insurgency, more dead soldiers and more heroin, the CIA must be really doing well these days, Gates needs the chop, he is underminging OBOMBYA (what a brilliant term thank you)with by listening too much to his ex republican pals.

    Uzbekistan has just announced that it is to to cut off Turkmenistan and Kyrgysistan from the old Russian energy network as it goes through their country. They have now modernised their grid and are using the pressure to argue the toss about water with its neighbours as they are dependent on it for the cotton fields.

  53. Craig

    3 Dec, 2009 - 10:38 am

    rogerh

    Depends who has the contract to lift the gas and sell it to India. Enron used to have it, then another Texan company whose name I have forgotten, which is rude of me as they once gave me an excellent dinner. Then it was lost to Gazprom. It will move around again a bit as the Breat Game chunters on.

    But the pipeline plan also includes an LNG plant in Pakistan on the Arabian Sea. The quantities of Turkmen fas are so huge not even India could absorb it.

    Actually, in a sane world the pipeline would run to China.

  54. Welly

    3 Dec, 2009 - 10:43 am

    I agree with a previous cemmentor that the posts from ‘tony_opmoc’ seem to be directed towards scaring off new-comers to the site. ‘tony_opmoc’s babbling nonsense is a distraction to the many articulate comments on craig’s erudite posts.

  55. mary

    3 Dec, 2009 - 1:28 pm

    A post on medialens. I remember the EDP being mentioned when Craig was standing in the Norwich North by-election. BTW how is young Chloe doing?

    Propaganda alert: Eastern Daily Press video report from Afghanistan

    Posted by IanS on December 3, 2009, 12:19 pm

    Check out this video report from the Eastern Daily Press (the largest circulation regional daily newspaper) about British soldiers seizing a weapons cache in Afghanistan:

    http://tiny.cc/FzvP9

    I use the word ‘weapons’ loosely – most look like antiques. Note how the reporter says they could be used against “our” troops. Basically a MoD promotions video…

    Ian

  56. writerman

    3 Dec, 2009 - 1:56 pm

    the more I think about Obama’s speech the worse I feel. At least Bush had his wings clipped for the last two years of his presidency, by the powers that be; but Obama is still able to do a collosal ammount of damage as he’s only started his turn at playing emperor.

    I’m starting to miss Bush, as he never really sounded like he took his role that seriously, coming from his background, and knowing how the political system worked, having seen it from the inside precluded that. Obama on the other hand has necessarily internalised the dogma and myths of his country to a frightening degree. Is he really as ignorant and crdulous as he appears to be?

    Luckily, or perhaps not, his novelty value seems to be wearing off at extraordinary speed, and he’s revealed as just another politician on the make pretending to wield power, in a system were real power isn’t really in the Whitehouse and never has been.

  57. Anonymous

    3 Dec, 2009 - 6:14 pm

    Writerman,

    Chief “Laughing Bull” might comment this way on your post:-

    “…and he’s revealed as just another politician on the make pretending to wield power, in a system were real power isn’t really in the Whitehouse and never has been.”

    And the Chief said:-

    ” Black man in White House speak like White man with forked touunge…..only better.”

  58. Bulldog

    3 Dec, 2009 - 10:49 pm

    “The large majority of post 9/11 terror incidents have been by Western Muslims outraged by our invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq.”

    On the other hand, the large majority of pre-911 terror incidents have been by Eastern Muslims outraged by the fact that we are not all Muslims.

  59. dreoilin

    3 Dec, 2009 - 11:14 pm

    “outraged by the fact that we are not all Muslims”

    Cock and bull, but believed by an amazing number of Americans.

  60. amber ladeira

    3 Dec, 2009 - 11:23 pm

    Many of the above-mentioned concerns seem very familiar; years ago, I read the briefest mention in a book about Vietnam that some U.S. geologists thought VIETNAM had offshore oil….(-guess that ended up as an error!)

    Humanity “needs work”, always has, will, for, regrettably, eons more. It is tragic and funny that so many are willing to believe in the intimately interested few, namely the “bosses”: politicians, corporate heads, military and financial leaders, etc. “Benign” dictators are equally regrettably, FEW.

    Say, as a former proofreader, I will level some minor criticisms here:

    (1) Author Craig Murray, in his rush to reveal Mr. Obama’s errors, made a few of his own in the above-quoted piece; he’s a research fellow? –Hmmn. Then there are certain of the comments!-Whew. Spelling and grammar STILL matter, even in the electronic age….when those smaller matters are attended to, credibility is enhanced.

    I think I will have do do MUCH MORE research MYSELF just to substantiate

    the numerous claims put forth here.

    Happy Holidays anyway

    amberladeira.blogspot.com

  61. anno

    4 Dec, 2009 - 1:54 am

    writerman

    You are missing Bush? He had as much morality in the destruction of Iraq and Afghanistan as an abattoir worker who, seeing a human being in amongst the cattle, slaughters him and sends him down the production line. Obama and Brown have even less to stand on. Seeing that their meat pie factory has been delivered a human carcase instead of a cow’s, they send it on down the line to be made into meat pies.

  62. Suhayl Saadi

    4 Dec, 2009 - 7:51 am

    Coleen, re. Obama ["I don't think Obombya leveled at all with the American people.", Dec 3rd, 0646hrs]

    Surely, as far as foreign policy went, you didn’t expect him to.

  63. Chris Dooley

    5 Dec, 2009 - 12:49 am

    amber ladeira,

    I think some of critisisms can be explained by Craig’s current lack of access to the site admin tools due to his work in Africa.

    I would vouch that Craig is very careful with his facts as the numerous attempts to silence him with libel cases have all failed. His books are packed with verifiable insider knowledge which would astound you.

    The odd spelling mistake (which only seems to have crept in during the past week), should not detract from the message.

    I don’t know your level of knowledge about the klepto-corporate machinations of most of our leaders, but Naomi Klein’s book – ‘The Shock Doctrine’ would probably save you alot of research.

    Please forgive any of my spelling mistakes, this site is harsh on ad-hoc postings due to lack of editing facilities.

    I wish tony_opmoc would stick to commenting on what Craig has to say, and not drag the tone of this excellent blog down to gutter level. (I suggest refraining from posting if you have had a few drinks Tony, and don’t rise to flamebait)

  64. Steve

    18 Dec, 2009 - 4:40 pm

    Craig,

    I have been searching and I cant find anything backing the theory that the international campaign in Afghanistan is all about the ‘pipeline’, and not about prevention of islamic terrorism.

    What leads you to the conclusion that this is the case?

    Personally I dont find it credible that the mass of military force in afghanistan is there to root out a relatively small number of Al Qeada operatives, that if blessed with even a single brain cell, would have undoubtedly ‘left the building’.

  65. J M R V Almirall

    3 Jan, 2010 - 9:45 pm

    Mr. Craig, thank you for your balance and brave view of the world we live in.

    We need many more like you.

Powered By Wordpress | Designed By Ridgey | Produced by Tim Ireland | Hosted by Expathos