Agreed!

…and welcome the troughing, hypocritical, war criminals of the Conservative Party. Ho hum.

And the UNBEARABLE, SCREECHING HAG awaits her Coronation

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/labour-mps-to-rally-behind-unbearable,-screeching-hag–200807301136/

Tony

Craig, much the same thing has been going through my mind all day. But with the added acid of seeing it all broadcast on Sky News.

I never could imagine voting Tory, but if I judge that that is the thing most likely to piss off Harriet Harperson I shall hold my nose and… probably flunk it. Oh dear!

Fuck ‘em all.

I thought the following was an Irish joke, or that I had gone completely insane…but it appears to be true

Irish government furious after Slovakian agents plant explosives on passenger

Man arrested after ‘bizarre’ discovery in Dublin apartment

By Gary Fennelly

Tuesday, 5 January 2010

Belfast Telegraph

The Irish government has demanded that Slovakia explain how an unsuspecting airline passenger was allowed to carry high-grade explosives on a flight to Dublin in an apparently botched security exercise.

Slovakian agents randomly planted powerful RDX explosives in the 49-year-old electrician’s bag but took three days to warn Irish authorities they were undetected.

Irish police traced the man to an apartment in Dorset St in Dublin city centre. He was arrested but has since been released from custody.

Security sources said the explosive was one of eight items of planted by the Slovakian authorities in the luggage of unsuspecting passengers at Bratislava airport at the weekend as part of a test exercise. Seven items were reportedly detetected, but the eighth, RDX explosive, went through in the bag of the innocent electrician.

The Slovakian government has apologised for the incident and a full investigation is underway.

A statement from the Republic’s Department of Justice said that Slovakian authorities had tipped off airport police to the presence of the explosives.

“Following contact earlier today from the Slovakian authorities with the Airport Police at Dublin Airport, members of the Garda Siochana have recovered a small quantity of explosive material from the luggage of a passenger who had flown into Dublin from that country on Saturday last,” the statement said.

“It has since been established that this material was concealed without his knowledge or consent in the passenger’s luggage as part of an airport security exercise by the authorities in Slovakia.

“The Slovakian Minister for the Interior has conveyed to Justice Minister Dermot Ahern his Government’s profound regret for this incident.”

The Republic’s main opposition party, Fine Gael, has demanded an investigation into how the explosives had not been detected

Fine Gael Senator, Paschal Donohoe, described the discovery as “bizarre and extremely worrying”. Senator Donohoe called for explanations from the government on the incident.

“This is the latest in a string of explosives discoveries in central Dublin which is extremely worrying in itself. The explosives find today is a particularly bizarre case with the explosive substance apparently brought into this country as part of a foreign test exercise.

“The government must now explain how it got into this country, what it was doing here and why the proper authorities were not alerted in advance, if this was an official test exercise. We also need to know what steps are being taken to ensure that this doesn’t happen again.

“I would like to acknowledge and commend the work of the Gardai in ensuring the safety of the residents and workers in the area.”

Tony

What gets me is the fact that the authorities think it is acceptable to plant this stuff without consent! Is this the first time government agencies have done this? I bet not.Plus its not MSM news despite the present atmosphere of terror and woe.

Dear god almighty – Hewitt and Hoon! The former was a condescending, arrogant toerag who presided over the NHS’s descent into outsourcing hell, while the latter oversaw the transformation of British armed forces into an adjunct of American military power. Hoon once said that it was now inconceivable that the UK would undertake major combat operations without the US. That’s almost a verbatim quote.

I dont give a damn whose face they stick up at the front of their parade. Truth is that all of them are standing on a mountain of dead Iraqis and Afghans. ‘Vote Labour! – Don’t let the Tories spoil our proud record!…er, just ignore the smell of rotting corpses…’

Tony, that’s a terrifying story – and I see it’s not a joke, either.

Semtex-Czechoslovkia-IRA – an old transit route, revisited. How ironic.

I and my family have flown in and out of Bratislava on numerous occasions.

What were they playing at? Why didn’t they use undercover agents who then would not actually get on the ‘plane? Why allow EXPLOSIVE onto an f-ing ‘plane? Could be cock-up. But I think that something very fishy is going on. A dry run for a more sinister ‘event’, perhaps, whose cover got blown? Or a staged media event to prove we need tanks-on-runways, a mock Kirov Conspiracy to scare people into accepting any old shite – the fact the BBC – our very own Soviet-era Pravda – is reporting it widely suggests that the latter may be the case.

At least the Irish cops didn’t shoot this electrician – maybe because he was white. If he’d had a brown or black face and/ or a Muslim name, he’d have been screwed, dead, obliterated, shot many times thru’ the head. And if not, who would’ve believed his pleas of innocence?

Now, let’s ask those in the mainstream media who call everyone who doubts official conspiracy theories, ‘conspiracy theorists’ what they think of this particular conspiracy!

Suhayl Saadi,

First of all I apologise to Craig, because this is totally off-topic. I discovered this not on the BBC but on an obscure blog, by accident. I then did a Google News search, and at first it was almost totally absent from any Mainstream Media, except in Australia and Ireland.

To be fair to the BBC, it is buried on the European section of their website.

Especially, because of recent events this should have made headline news across the World.

If it had involved anyone with a Muslim connection, I am almost certain it would be absolutely everywhere in the media – and be seen by Billions, rather than probably only very few people.

This implies to me, that it was either a total embarrassing cock-up, or done deliberately via Slovakia to highlight the current complete mass hysteria of further Draconian restrictions with regards to airport security.

An extremely good analysis of recent events can be found on Sott.net

With regards to the qualities of our current UK Politicians, I think they are all a complete disgrace, and we should get rid of the lot of them. They should be barred from ever standing for election again. Those who appear to be guilty of crimes should be prosecuted- just as if they were ordinary members of the public, and not some priviledged elite protected by a totally corrupt system. When a system of any kind, is so hopelessly corrupt, it needs to be scrapped and started again from sound first principles. Our politicians are completely useless and do nothing of any value. Their effect on society is entirely negative. They can go on holiday for several months, and no one misses them. They therefore should take a permanent one, so that we can restart with people of integrity who actually have some expereince at long term planning and making things work. I am amazed we haven’t yet run out of energy. We will do and we will freeze to death, unless we get rid of these incompetent shysters.

Tony

Suhayl,

Conspiracies abound – Certain Iranian dissidents who escaped the SAVAK believe they have been ‘tested’ for involvement in a plan to bring down the present Iran leadership. They later realised they could be double-crossed into involvement in terrorism for which they would be caught and charged, of course achieving the same objective of pressuring Russia and China to agree dilapidating sanctions or muting any UN objections after a preemptive strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Hoon is truly a ghastly creature. A dullard and hypocrite, brimming over with his own conceit and self-importance.

I remember hearing him state that at some future date an Iraqi mother who had lost her child in the invasion, would, on reflection, thank him for liberating Iraq.

What moral cesspool do these creeps reside in?

“Fuck off New Labour, all of you.”

Very sophisticated blogging Craig, very erudite. Roll on a Tory government eh?

One of your better blogs! I often look to your insight to help me carve a path through the corporate media crap. And as usual, you spot on.

Bravo!

You Sir are a god

Hit the nail on the head and every other cliche

You Sir are a god

Hit the nail on the head and every other cliche

Dear eddie

“Fuck off New Labour, all of you.”

Not happy with Criag offering a personal opinion on the current crisis facing Gordon Brown?

Do you like Craig making the point;

“It is not about policy at all, or anything that benefits you or me. It is about New Labour politicos’ personal access to money and power”.

That is the real message of his post.

Roll on a Tory Government?

No, roll on a hung Parliament.

New Labour treat ordinary people like dirt, they are a cancer destroying this country.

Yours sincerely

George Laird

The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

eddie,

you said it yourself, in answer to a question that I asked you, that you’d rather see a Tory government than a change to the electoral system. The system you support ENSURES periodic Tory government. Are you sure you wouldn’t rather change your mind about the way we’re permitted to vote?

The exchange I refer to above can be found in the comments to Craig’s article of June 8th 2009: “Jack Straw – Nothing To Do With Us Guv: We’ve Only Been In Power Twelve Years”.

To quote Eddie: “Thatcher did some good and she revitalised the Labour Party, just as Blair has revitalised the Tories under Cameron.”

It’s an impressive commentary on the sheer quality of New Labour’s pool of political talent that Hewitt and Hoon – unbelievably – make Gordon Brown look not only competent and talented but charming.

Buffoon revealed Dr Kelly’s identity didn’t he.

One other unnatural death has been covered up I think, that of Timothy Hampton, the scientist involved in monitoring of nuclear activity. I am convinced that there is some connection with his death to the USUKIs demonisation of Iran prior to some action being taken.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Hampton

Google his name. There are just a few links inc a D. Mail article about his sister rescuing some of his clothing which was going to be destroyed. Craig wrote at length about his death on 9 and 10 November 2009.

(www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/11/nothing_to_see.html )

“At least the Irish cops didn’t shoot this electrician – maybe because he was white. If he’d had a brown or black face and/ or a Muslim name, he’d have been screwed, dead, obliterated, shot many times thru’ the head.”

Suhayl Saadi

On what grounds do you make such a suggestion regarding the Irish Garda Siochana?

The important thing is to get out and vote so that the far-right does not slip into power by default.

Mark Golding

Yes, there is a serious risk of being ‘set up’ by false flag operators. But are we not also being set up about the USUKIS relationship to Iran? Israel has been threatening to attack Iran unilaterally for a long time, but they gave nuclear technology to Iran. The US handed Iraq to Iran, by placing a Shi’a minority government in power, and as you say, four million Sunnis, and I think more, have not returned to Iraq to be governed by Shi’a.

Sanctions against Iran have had the effect of increasing prices and businessmen love high prices. Do you think that the free trading market of Iran is going to be affected by sanctions in the same way as Iraq under Saddam?

Yes, Israel may attack Iran to de-stabilise the present government of Iran, but not to dismantle the entire country as has happened in Iraq and not even to destroy its nuclear installations. They need Iran strong against us Sunni Muslims.

The UK political question in my mind is whether Gordon Brown would be able to refuse to collaborate with Obama in an attack on Iran from Israel or directly, sometime soon in 2010. My opinion is that Brown would have no choice after Blair’s near-escape from prosecution over the Iraq War, but to step down from the US-UK Alliance which has been so costly to the UK in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The vile David Cameron,and his vile Tory bunch of total liars, and Eddie, wouild claim that a fresh start has been made, history has been cancelled and nothing that has happened before will be repeated again.

The pustulent Hoon with his permanent conscienceless smirk and legal training has calculated that there is more chance of a continuation of the evil and illegal invasions of the Blair years under Cameron than under Brown.

Such determined loyalty to his Zio-sponsors would be well rewarded, even if the insurrection to remove Brown as P.M., did not succeed.

The timing of it is certainly curious, what with Lab showing some improvement in the polls and the realisation dawning that they could actually win.

Geoff Hoon is the shit who said Iraqi parents that lost their children in the war would think it was worth it.

Tony Blair made a statement in line with Hoon’s relating to how, eventually, the Iraq’s who lost friends and relatives would come to understand that their sacrifice was “worth it” if this was the “price” of their freedom!

How did we ever come to the stage, in a demcracy, where we are ruled over by deluded criminals, who specialize in mass murder, and are professional liars?

And then the establishment wonders why young Muslims are becoming “radicalized.” Considering the resulting level of violence and destruction our holy crusade against the Muslim community causes, it’s surprising that so few Muslims have become “radicalized.” There reaction to our terror directed at them is perfectly understandable and rational.

Though one can question whether the use of the tactic of terror isn’t counter-productive, as it plays into the hands of our warmongering rulers.

Spot on as usual Craig both Hewitt and Hoon are self serving careerists who are pissed off they didn’t get jobs in Europe so put the boot in on behalf of the spineless Blairites who didn’t have the bottle to back them.Theywill go off to make their fortune in the private sector but may not get their peerages! As for us vote for a hung parliament and Scottish independence!

Craig:

‘terrible decline of Britain’s “democratic” system’

Unfortunately, as the saying goes, I don’t think we’ve seen nothing yet.

Indeed, well said. I shall be cheering on the first green MP when he gets elected in Norwich South, deposing Charles Clarke, the interloper who has divided Norwich labour party with his antics and has now twice put the spanner into the Nolabour works.

Well said Craig.

As for the Tory’s, they are as clueless, but they have a plan for us to repay the 1000 billion debt accrued, i.e. we pay and his cronies keep their tax havens, sod the lot, vote for those parties that are against the war, I say it again, none of them are worth the salt on the butter.

Appropo salt, do get some snow chains, spreading salt is pathetically expensive and we have just run out at britain main depot, next delivery is 27.Jan. They are discussing using expensive water softening salt would you believe. Also, try and keep 100 yards between cars and drive slowly in a high gear, it makes for better traction.

The more weight there is in a car, the better your grip, although should you go too fast and start sliding, you will travel further due to the increased momentum.

Happy motoring from a non driver.

Off topic, but anyway. See you’re addressing the Scottish Independence Convention soon. I won’t be able to attend, but if I could this would be my question for you: in the midst of all the awfulness we see, does anything give you cause for optimism? You see, my answer is ‘no’. Maybe you can make a post out of your answer.

“You are all a bunch of troughing, hypocritical, war criminals. Fuck off New Labour, all of you.”

Couldn’t have put it better myself. The only decent New Labour minister died on a country walk.

Indeed Tony and his constutuency is lloking into a void for the next 6 month, they are without any representation whatsoever. NoLabour has invoked the six month rule, which is not a rule but a convention, leaving them in limbo to sort out their own casework. the other main parties must have agreed to this otherwise they would be saying something, but representing people does not seem important anymore to them, instead its back stabbing and self serving power games.

have they realised that they are talking to themselves?

ingo,

Last February, my Son got stuck in the snow in his car overnight with his girlfriend, and I was extremely worried they were going to freeze to death.

As a result he has bought some snow chains and they do work exceedingly well.

Whilst I probably agree with you on the vast majority of political issues, I will not be voting for anyone who believes the nonsense of Global Warming, nor anyone on the Right. This basically means that, so far as I can tell their is absolutely no one that represents my political views. If the Green Party admitted that Global Warming was a load of nonsense and that we need to re-open coal mines and build new coal and nuclear power stations, and take sensible measures to protect the environment as well as humans then I may again vote Green.

I accept that the vast majority of Global Warming believers are sincere people, who passionately care about saving the planet. They care so much that thousands are prepared to demonstrate, spend days at climate camps, do their utmost to prevent power stations being built, and are even prepared to go to jail.

They have had enormous success, not only in preventing power stations being built, but in convincing politicians in Governments and much of the General Public, That Global Warming is Happenning, and is caused by CO2, and the effects will be catastrophic as the planet reaches a tipping point and warms uncontrollably.

But its all lies, fraud and religious junk science.

The effects however will be catastrophic. Not because the planet is warming, and not because CO2 is a problem, but because policy makers who make long term decisions, believe the propaganda to be true, and are implementing totally disastrous policies that will literally kill Billions of People.

You may believe that such Genocide is necessary in order to save the planet, but how can you believe anything from the originators of such blatant lies.

With regards to renewable energy, well the UK Government and much of Europe are its main proponents.

The only problem is that it doesn’t work at all when you most need it.

In the UK, vast numbers of conventional power stations are scheduled to be closed down, because they are old and worn out. They are being replaced by vast numbers of windmills.

Yet in the winter in the UK, sometimes there is an anti-cyclone (an area of high pressure) that lasts for as long as 3 months. This happenned in 1963, and has happenned several times over the last few hundred years. It may well be happenning now. In such conditions, there is no wind – for months. Windmills generate no energy.

2-300 years ago, we were in a mini ice age, where it was so cold for months that the Thames froze solid, and even much of the English Channel.

The UK population then was a tiny percentage of what it is now – less than 5 Million (Now over 60 Million due to mass immigration) and there was sufficient trees for wood to burn, and sufficient food stocks to keep most of the population alive.

With current policies, if we get more exceedingly cold winters, then many Millions of People will Freeze to death in The UK. The wind won’t keep them warm, the supply of gas from Russia may well be cut off, and over 500 years worth of coal will be left buried in the ground whilst the old coal power stations have been dismantled and not replaced.

This is a Crime Against Humanity. The Planet is Not Short of Energy, but is Controlled By Genocidal Psychopaths who have got much of the population voting for their own extinction on propaganda of blatant proven lies.

Coal may be black horrible stuff, but it has an enormous concentration of energy. Whilst the other contaminants are already removed from coal burnt in power stations, the CO2 does not have to be removed because we need much more of it in the atmosphere. I realise this will sound like heresy, but it is true. We Need More CO2, Not Less.

The Climate is Controlled by Activity on The Sun, which has entered a period of very low activity with hardly any Sunspots. People who observe the activity of The Sun, accurately predicted the very cold winters of the past two years, whilst the Global Warmers with their computer models got it totally wrong. They have now been proved to, not only be wrong but criminally fraudulent by the Climategate revelations.

Forget all their propaganda and educate yourself with the facts. We need to be prepared for the very worst climate change and we should be opening up new coal mines and building new Nuclear Power Stations. The alternative is Mass Death.

Tony

go buy yourself a set of yak trax for the icy conditions £20, and they strap onto the soles of your boots, and no i dont have shares.

go google them…

Couldnt agree more Craig.

Nu Labour Bastard SCUM.

Hoon is truly a low low reptile.

Disgusting.

anno,

Thanks – I was not aware that Israel ‘gave nuclear technology to Iran’ – but I wholeheartedly agree with you — ‘The pustulent Hoon with his permanent conscienceless smirk and legal training has calculated that there is more chance of a continuation of the evil and illegal invasions of the Blair years under Cameron than under Brown.

Such determined loyalty to his Zio-sponsors would be well rewarded, even if the insurrection to remove Brown as P.M., did not succeed.’

This is probably the most important statement of 2010 and MUST be conveyed to every educated Brit. in the land.

MI6 is struggling to contain constant pressure from Zio-’friends of Israel’ to ‘back’ DC, effectively using ‘black-mail’ by sighting certain past ‘Blairite’ events that would be unproductive to mention here.

I am also ‘interested’ in how Gordon Brown will proceed and this will influence my ‘modus operandi’ in the lead up to the election.

Sir William Patey, who was British ambassador to Baghdad from 2005 to 2006, revealed how Tony Bliar was in a ‘state of panic’ to stabilise Iraq. Due to give evidence on February 5th Blair is talking to Alastair Cambell, Jonathan Powell and possibly Lord Goldsmith – WHY – trying to get your story straight Mr Blair – I hope I get a seat – I condemned you at Walton High remember? I will condemn you again – war criminal and blatant liar.

Tony Optomoc, coal and oil are for pussies who don’t want to move away from their warm and comfy profits.

the future is desertec, CSP.

There are so many ways to generate energy that it is a crime not to consider as many as possible.

I am not a Gren party member anymore, but have been for 34 years. I shunned away from the dogmatioc approach and the centralisation of decision making vs. decentralisation.

Schumachers messages are very valid and I shall leave yopu with this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8437703.stm

The isss has a long record of scientific arctic excellence and their messages are stark but not alarmist, enjoy

Tony Optomoc, coal and oil are for pussies who don’t want to move away from their warm and comfy profits.

the future is desertec, CSP.

There are so many ways to generate energy that it is a crime not to consider as many as possible.

I am not a Gren party member anymore, but have been for 34 years. I shunned away from the dogmatioc approach and the centralisation of decision making vs. decentralisation.

Schumachers messages are very valid and I shall leave yopu with this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8437703.stm

The isss has a long record of scientific arctic excellence and their messages are stark but not alarmist, enjoy

Off topic again – sorry – my son (who has ADHD) but great insight found this:

Great minds behind the ‘underpants’ bomber – On 20th January 2009 an announcement, prominently featured in select Internet websites, said that al-Qaeda, the alleged global terrorist organization created by the late CIA-trained Saudi, Osama bin Laden, had opened a major new branch in Yemen for both Yemen and Saudi operations lead by Nasir al-Wahayshi.

A Saudi national, former Guantanamo detainee (Number 372) Abu-Sayyaf al-Shihri, would serve as al-Wahayshi’s deputy and Abu-al-Harith Muhammad al-Awfi, Guantanamo detainee (Number 333) as field commander. These high ranking graduates we know had been set up and trained by the CIA and Pentagon interrogators using severe torture to set up a sleeper cell in Yemen.

The group promised to take the jihad from Yemen to Israel to “liberate” Muslim holy sites and Gaza, something that would likely detonate World War III if anyone were mad enough to do it.

Yemen government leader Saleh had claimed the Southern Movement and al Qaeda are one and the same, a convenient way to insure backing from Washington.

According to US intelligence reports, there are a grand total of perhaps 200 al Qaeda members in southern Yemen. (Abigail Hauslohner)

The emergence of a tiny but well-publicized al Qaeda in southern Yemen amid what observers call a broad, popular-based Southern Movement front that eschews the radical global agenda of al Qaeda, serves to give the Pentagon a kind of ‘casus belli’ to escalate US military operations in the strategic region.

Now the Christmas Day Detroit bomber drama gives new life to Washington’s “War on Terror” campaign in Yemen.

Obama has now offered military assistance to the Saleh Yemen government. (Strategy for oil?)

Okay BS scaleometre is coming off at the deep end here up north, time for you Mr Murray to spearhead another push to claim back our democracy.

Here goes….why not create a base line questionnaire in which we can pass on to our new prospective politicians, so under:

Finance

1) Would you implement a a procedure like http://www.taf.org in the UK? if Yes when will it be implemented?

2) Would you withhold funds to the EU until full accounting practices had been implemented?

UN

1) Would you investigate War Crimes ‘tourture’ by UK Citizens.

EU

1) Would you seek a referendum on joining the EU? When?

UK

1) When would you set up an enquiry into the 7/11 bombings?

The list is obviously endless be there could be a whole host of things we could agree on that should go in there…..

@anno: “The UK political question in my mind is whether Gordon Brown would be able to refuse to collaborate with Obama in an attack on Iran from Israel or directly, sometime soon in 2010.”

Yes, early dates are being predicted, but tunnelling by Afghanistan is creating a problem for would-be attackers.

“Iran Shielding Its Nuclear Efforts in Maze of Tunnels” -

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/world/middleeast/06sanctions.html?hp

ingo,

desertec, CSP…

Great in theory, but the numbers do not work..I did do Pure Physics and Maths..

Even if it did work such energy should be used locally in the country of origin. Distributing it to Europe is Star Trek stuff – but it won’t work numberwise. Its all a matter of scale.

Sure electricity can be moved from a Concentrated Solar Power Station in The Desert in North Africa….

But its a Volume thing

There is an enormous diference between

10,100,1000…etc

and I am completely useless in counting in multiples of 10 as most people are.

I coundn’t handle the sums in Italy when I was 9 years old. It was about 1,000,000 Lira to £1…

And then in Turkey – it got even sillier…

In some places of the world you get such an enormous wad of paper for a quid, you think no one locally will take it seriously

I was once in a Rural Part of India and I tried to give a tip that was the equivalent of an English Pound and he wouldn’t accept it…

Because he thought I was trying to give the equivalent of well over £100 for a coconut…

Same with Solar Power…

Sure it works or we wouldn’t be here

In my experience, humans are a blessing to the planet earth, but some really evil cunts are trying to destroy both the human race and our planet, and it is they who are in control.

We may move permanently to rural India or Thailand , once our Kid’s lives are settled and they are truly Independent of Us their Parents

The entire Philosophy and Way of Life is Just So Much Superior. So long as you have enough, why do you want more?

It doesn’t matter if it takes a long time, just talk and relax, whatever else do you want to do?

And whilst I used to love the snow when I was a kid, and have taken some fantastic photos and videos today, soon the fresh snow will start to melt and then turn to sheer ice and I am not as fast on my feet at correcting an involuntary slide as I once was and would rather risk the odd moszuito instead.

You could ask Craig why he is not using Solar Power in Ghana by the way and at least suggest solar cookers for remote areas where he can’t get electricity to…

Solar cookers work and are much better than cooking using animal shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cooker

Tony

Suhayl Saadi

I don’t see any answer to Dreoilin’s question.

If its object is allowed stand, it is very close to a racist comment.

Suhayl,

Let me try and explain.

I thought Dublin would be much the same as London…

Yet not only was the weather as different as if we had travelled over 1,000 miles, so was the Cultural Difference

People were just so incredibly Nice and Friendly and went out of their way to be Generous and Welcoming To Us in Dublin

And we thought we knew something about Irish people and the history of the Irish

Its not a question of Race

Its just Irish people in Ireland are totally different to anything you might expect

Tony

The election battle must be really in action now – the New Labour troll ‘eddie’ has resurfaced.

Hi eddie, hows it hanging me old fuckwit.

Millbank must be really draughty this time of year.

Tony: Good thing you’re white, eh mate? Otherwise you might have got a rather less than incredibly Nice and Friendly reception. And that’s based on personal experience, and in no way biased against yourself.

How to annoy an American NAZI

True Liberals Do Not Support The Wars Of The American Right

They just talk bollocks to each other sat in their wealthy mansions about how aweful Americans are to People with Dark Skins who live in Foreign Lands.

Of Course they don’t actually send ANY of their Sons and Daughters to Fight These Wars

And They Do Absolutely NOTHING To Stop The Evil Right Who Do

You See, I am sat Here in England from a Very Poor Working Class Background Observing Americans From Afar

Is Their Much Difference Between Americans

So Far as I Can Tell, Americans are The Most Ignorant Horrible People in The World

Who Have Got Their Heads So Stuck Up Their Own Arseholes – They Just Want The Chinese To Feed Them By Tube Through Any Orifice Still Open

Lets Face It

You Don’t Give a Fuck About Other Americans Let Alone The Rag Heads in Foreign Lands You Are Bombing To Fuck By Remote Control From a Hollywood Studio For a Laugh in Between Takes.

Why Not Take a Real Break and Go and Distribute Solar Cookers in Foreign Lands

And Build Some Real Infrastructure To Deliver Clean Water and Sewage

You know the kind of things that English Kids Do

when they are Teenagers

American Teenagers Just Play Computer Games and Join The Army To Kill The Rag Heads That They Hate Cos They Did 9/11 and are Terrorising them in Kentucky

For Fucks Sake

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Tony

The Irish are Much Nicer

…lets be kind to eddie, he has provided us at least with some entertainment if not enlightenment, soon No Liebour will be out in the wilderness for an eternity, he will be useless to them and put outside with the other empty bottles when the party is finally over…

Funny that Jono Woss is leaving the beeb pretty much at the same time that gordo will be leaving number 10, talk about rats deserting a sinking ship…

And as regards our local police, whilst I have totally slagged them off on occasion, for actually doing what Tony Blair told them to do to collect all the local teenagers DNA by arresting them for doing nothing other than just walking down the street…

They did pay us a visit a couple of days ago – like they did with all our neighbours and they were completely lovely

And in far more serious cases they have been completely utterley brilliant

I can only go from my own personal experience – because everything you read even in the local press is not the entire truth – sometimes for exceedingly good reasons

My Wife and I and our Children and The Police sometimes find ourselves working with each other to protect completely Innocent People. It’s Never Planned, but in my own personal experience when something horrible happens, the police, the ambulance service, the fire brigade, the doctors and nurses – are just so completely fucking wonderful that you realise that what you read in the press and see on TV bears little relation to reality.

Tony

For many years my Wife was a Registered Childminder after she gave up her job working in a bank because She wanted to be a Mother at Home looking after our Babies…

It took a Year of Police and Loads of Other Checks of Both of Us Before she got Her Registration

Some of the Checks on Me were attempts to completely wind me up to provoke a violent reaction (which never worked) – sometimes by phone and sometimes by turning up at my door (such activities were subcontracted)

I think such checks are completely appropriate

Though I was never much involved with how my Wife looked after all these Children..I was away at Work..

And over The Years it will have been well over 20 Children. I was there in Our House.

I was My Wife’s Husband and The Father of Our Children…

Our Children Grew Up and went to Primary School – and of Course Brought Their Friends Back To Our Home

They Then Went To Secondary School (An Ordinary Comprehensive – Well Actually It is Really Good – (Far Better Than The Local Grammar Schools) and of Course Brought Their Friends Back To Our Home…

Which was perfectly O.K. and acceptable by everyone – All The Parents Knew Where All Their Kids Were – They Knew They Were Safe – Because They Knew My Wife and Our Home and The Other Kids…

But Our Kids Met Other Kids at School – and Some of Them Were Being Beaten Shitless By Their Parents who We Didn’t Know

Our Children Had Always Seen Our Home as a Place of Sanctuary and Love and Asked Us

When the first time it happenned…

The Girl had been beaten Black and Blue – By Her Mother…(though we didn’t know that then)

She Was 15 years Old…

And Was Going To Runaway

My Wife Was Completely Wonderful With Her

She instantly lost 30 years and was a 15 year old girl at exactly the same level

She may have been 45 years old but became 15 and said I am coming with you tomorrow. I want to come with you too…

But not now

Well of course we had to provide Sanctuary and give her the time and space and support to make her feel safe. Our kids were completely wonderful

I went into an instant panic – but didn’t do anything except explain the situation to my friend and his wife who were fostering teenagers of the same age..

So we gave her Sanctuary and after a couple of days we said you really do need to phone the Police…

A day or so later when it was getting silly with wanted posters everywhere…she said to My Wife can you phone The Police For Me…

So they came round with the social services – and wanted to take her back home where her mother was beating her to shit…

And then they eventually realised it was

not safe to do so – after seeing her bruises…

So they asked us if we can look after her for a few more days – and we will tell her Mother where she is…

I said we can look after for a few more days providing you tell her Mother She is Safe and Well and No More

They said O.K.

And so we did

And then she was Fostered with a Family in a Different Area of The Country…

And She Gradually remade contact with her Mother

And a Few Years Later She Came Back and Thanked Us, and Told Us about Her Job as a Stylist and How She Had Made It Up With Her Mum

And Then There was another Friend of Our Children…

Some People Do This Kind of Thing Because They Can’t Think Of Not Doing So

And Then The Bastards Do This

http://www.carers4carers.co.uk/

Both my wife an I have been retired for over 5 years

Tony

@ anno.

“The US handed Iraq to Iran, by placing a Shi’a minority government in ” – I was under the impression the Shi’ah were the majority in Iraq, not that it made a difference in many people-people conducatnce of life, but it does seem to have make a difference as to which group was more oppressed. I don’t think Saddam liked the Shi’ah version of Islam.

Tony,

As always I spend an hour a day interpreting your posts…wonderful..keep them coming mate..

This turned up in VeteransToday:

WASHINGTON, DC — Officials in the Obama White House are considering the possibility that the Christmas day attempt by Nigerian terrorist Umar Farouk Mutallab to blow up an airliner about to land in Detroit was deliberately and intentionally facilitated by unnamed networks inside the US intelligence community. This was the gist of a report by Richard Wolf delivered in this evening’s edition of cable network MSNBC’s Countdown program, hosted by Keith Olbermann. This report comes on the eve of a special White House interagency conference convoked by Obama to deal with the massive systemic failure of US intelligence in allowing the Yemen alumnus Mutallab to board the Amsterdam to Detroit flight while allegedly carrying a PETN explosive device on his person.

http://veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10020

lwtc247

If you include Kurdistan in Iraq, the Sunni/Shi’a divide is about equal.

If you made a survey of religious groups in Britain, excluding Wales and Scotland you would get a totally different result from a survey of the UK as a whole.

Iraq refuses to hold a census, partly because of the six million Sunnis who are taking refuge abroad, and partly because there is an agreement in place to divide the oil wealth according to ethnic population.

Talking of Iraq statistics, I wanted to listen to the BBC’s future religious affairs correspondent, Edward Stourton’s programme Defining the Decade to check whether I really heard him say:

‘The Iraq War in which as many as 30,000 civilians may have been killed.’But it is not available.

In other words the British Broadcasting Crusade’s argument is that only the same number have died as would have died by natural causes. That would put them in the Hague as co-conspirators to genocide, in my opinion.

Tony optomoc, as much as I value your lamentations and you objections to CSP, it is of much morte value than to carry on with fusion power or litter the globe with nuclear power stations and an uncertain dangerous legacy, especially during the coming 42 years of this war on terror.

Back to the issue, Geoff and Patricia seem to have been wound up by big ears Charles Clarke,soon to be disposed of by one of the first two green MP’s, he started this of on news years day, Hoon and Hewitt are just fall guys who have been instigating it for him.

Charles Clarke would like to step into his fathers footsteps, to say that he is as bullying than his dad, alledgedly, would be calling the pope a catholic.

The backbenchers are far too much up their own marginal backsides, paranoid and worried in their westminster politics bubble, than to do anything rash.

My Labour MP is a decent local man who voted against the war and most bad things. What was he meant to do, resign and leave the field clear for some sucking New whatever parasite? I’d also far rather have him over the terrifying Green woman I encountered (bodyguards and wearing black leather gloves in summer, I kid you not). Why are people so obsessed by parties? Especially on a blog which supports an independent?

anno,

According to Gideon Polya:

Not only is the US involved in an ongoing Iraqi Holocaust and Iraqi Genocide (post-1990 violent and non-violent excess deaths 4.4 million), the US and its Iraqi Puppet Regime are grossly understating post-invasion mortality rates to the United Nations Population Division.

In the 2006 Revision of the United Nations Population Division the crude death rate in “deaths per 1,000 of population” was given as 8.3 (1980-1985), 6.9 (1985-1990), 9.6 (1990-1995; Gulf War and commencement of Sanctions in 1990 and Bombing in 1991), 10.0 (1995-2000), 10.6 (2000-2005; the invasion and occupation of Iraq commenced in March 2003); and 9.1 (2005-2010).

This data makes sense in that one would have expected the successive impositions of Sanctions, Bombing, War and finally violent Occupation would have increased the death rate in this period.

Further, the above estimates are conservative because the classic epidemiological study on post-invasion Iraq by top US medical epidemiologists estimated a crude death rate of 13.3 per 1,000 people per year in the 40 months post-invasion. [1]

Using UN Population Division data on the population of Iraq in the 1990-2009 period and using as a baseline death rate the 4 per 1,000 of population obtaining in a range of peaceful Developing Countries with similar demographics, the mid-1990-December 2009 non-violent excess deaths (non-violent avoidable deaths) were calculated to be 2.8 million.

Using the 2006 Revision of the United Nations Population Division one can readily estimate mid-1990- December 2009 under-5 year old infant deaths as 2.1 million.

Afghanistan:

Life expectancy at birth: 44.21 years

(source: Afghanaid)

Excellent post but it would be helpful if you could install Disqus as a comment system – much easier to follow the threads that way.

suppose my MP would be Old Labour, really. So New Labour point is fair. Did I hear Cameron trying to remodel the Conservatives as ‘Modern Conservatives’ the other day, by the way?

The question is:

Which of the two War Parties will you vote for?

That is if you’re not completely turned off by the electioneering that will continue for the next five or six months.

mary,

The trick is to get a ‘hung’ parliament – Vote Liberal – that should do it!

Seconded. Vote tactically for a hung parliament.

What’s exasperating about this is that under our disproportional system you can’t tell what effect your vote has until the results are in.

Here is your lifetime supply of democracy:

X X X X X X X X

X X X X X X X X

Please don’t run off with the pencil!

Afterthought – I should really qualify my 7:13 comment. If you’re lucky enough to live in a constituency with a morally sound candidate who stands a chance of being elected, vote for him/her.

This is what Craig was up against in Norwich. Voters can’t tell in advance if a candidate can muster enough votes, so they ‘play safe’ and vote for one of the major parties. Thus Tory and Labour both favour the current system.

As far as I cld see Craig was up against a party which had delivered a relatively decent previous incumbent. Respect for the Norfolk roots, and for seizing the chance of a by-election, but it’s not quite the same as standing against someone like Harman or Smith. Or settling in Norfolk and conducting a long game. Of course, they’re weeding out all the other decentish old Tories too. Parliament will be full of nasty little boys, what’s the betting?

That’s the trouble with being one of the only three countries left in the civilised world with a primitive first-past-the-post voting system. Even worse, FPTP always suits whoever has just won using it, so they are the last people who want to see it changed.

We need instant run-off voting, combined with some form of proportional representation, in order to claim even a semblance of democracy in the UK.

http://www.fairvote.org/how-instant-runoff-voting-works

don’t you think we need to get decent people into the system before it gets changed?

We shouldn’t use this “first past the post” label. It’s not just totally inaccurate, it also sounds very fair and reasonable, which it isn’t. I’ve been using “winner takes all” or “disproportionate”.

Technicolour: this is a convoluted problem. I think that maybe we should try to do both simultaneously. The current system makes it hard to chuck lousy people out.

QUOTE:

“How did we ever come to the stage, in a demcracy, where we are ruled over by deluded criminals, who specialize in mass murder, and are professional liars?”

>>>It’s horrific, isn’t it, how the UK’s been overrun by criminals in the last 10yrs? How did it happen?

QUOTE:

“You are all a bunch of troughing, hypocritical, war criminals. Fuck off New Labour, all of you.”

“Couldn’t have put it better myself. The only decent New Labour minister died on a country walk.”

I thought it was very well put too. But..Michael Meacher? Claire Short – ish?

First off, add a spam blocker to your site. Once they find they can spam you you’ll be on a list, and the next stage is attempts to upload virus infection links. Just a warning.

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I would in general advise you that I much rather have a bunch of “Let’s have a *slice* of this” Tories in office than current “let’s grab everything we can and damn the consequences” New Labour. Tories know they need a working economy to get something out of it, and tend to plan more long term as a consequence.

People seem to forget that in order to harvest more than once you need to leave something to grow anew, a fact that Tories understand.

However much Tony Blair polished up Labour and made then wear shoes instead of sandals, they are still incapable of shedding their roots, so you get unelected Mandelson who licks up to anyone with cash, Blair the marketeer who knows how to BS with a straight face (good lawyer credentials) and unelected Brown who hasn’t got a clue about finance but has left to hold his own mess after Blair wisely skipped before it all blew up. Gordon Brown is responsible from turning a budget surplus into a deeper black hole than the LHC will ever hope to produce, and that is AFTER raiding the pension funds in the process.

In case anyone forgot, it was Labour who introduced the “sleaze” concept, the idea that politicians are somehow no longer human but white knights that never make a mistake. And who returns when times get tough? Yup, twice disgraced Mandelson.

And yet, people vote for them, proving that elementary logic has indeed become the victim of educational standards.

glow-in-the-dark say :- “People seem to forget that in order to harvest more than once you need to leave something to grow anew, a fact that Tories understand.”.

That’s why they’d never dream of, to change a metaphor, selling off the family silver. Right.

“In case anyone forgot, it was Labour who introduced the “sleaze” concept”.

Oh, *please*. Granted, Neal Hamilton, etc, were petty compared with some of what’s been done since, but sleazy they certainly were. That’s what I voted against in ’97, for what it was worth.

Those who can’t remember history, what are they said to be condemned to do ? (retype it, probably, this being the ‘net).

Glow-in-the dark:

it was Thatcher (and Reagan) that removed the restrictions on ‘repackaging’ credit. And I seem to remember that the Tories voted unanimously for the Iraq war…

I agree with your comments about Blair and Mandelson, however.

Glenn:

I looked at your ‘Instant Run-off’ link. Instant Run-off is to single seat constituencies what Single Transferable Voting is to multiple-seat constituencies. Both seem very good for giving independent candidates and small / new parties a fair chance against the big, entrenched parties. http://www.voteforachange is campaigning for PR.

as the corrupt uk kangaroo court and system will not punish the real war criminals it not be in order that someone else punishes the war criminal despicable creature3 called tony bastard blair? how long can one go on decieving oneslef about justice system of kangaroo courts of england?

If the kangaroo courts of uk and the corrupt system of england is not going to try the msot despicable war criminal the tony balir then is there a jmnustification for someother countries to get him tried and after finding him criminal have him hanged for war crimes?

how long can the world put up with this war criminal beibng loose at alrge?and even appylying to be head of european union? what a disgust!!

surely one cannot rely on ja=kangaroo corrupt state that is england.

Clark: We need a change in how people view their politics, I think. At the moment, they’re standing back and eyeing it nervously, or wanting to give it a good kicking, when they could be rolling their sleeves up and making it work for them. My worry is that the STV and other such interesting ideas for adjusting the system are red herrings. Are Ireland and Holland glorious examples of popular democracy? Not really. They might be a bit better than the UK, but much? In any case, unless the politicians themselves want to change the system, the system cannot be changed, surely?

So I think you need to work with what you have. How best to throw the bad ones out is a good question, alongside the equally urgent ‘how to stop the bad ones getting in’. It all strikes me as needing long term planning, which is why the inchoate forces of (often knee jerk) opposition are in a bit of a fix.

By the way, I don’t think Craig could have won Blackburn or Norwich with the STV; though I might do some sums to check.

Technicolour,

your ‘sums’ are going to be highly speculative; you can’t work directly from the results.

If I’d been a voter in such an election, and assuming that Craig just appealed to me (rather than me being a follower of his blog), I would have put Craig first on an STV ballot, and my party of choice second. If Craig hadn’t got a lot of votes, nothing lost; my vote would have transferred to my party of choice.

In a conventional UK ballot, I’d have wanted to vote for Craig, but would have considered it a risk of wasting my vote, and so put my one and only X next to the name of my least unfavorite party that I thought stood a chance.

In any case, it will take time for voters to get used to their new freedom under STV.

Clark, true, had overlooked the aspect that people might be too scared to vote for the person they really want in case they don’t get in.

Patricia Hewitt once threw the entire contents of her very large handbag at me, when I was employed on the turnstile at the University of East Anglia library. A part of my job was to tell people that bags were not allowed in the library, but that I could issue them with locker keys to store their bags, while they were in the library. Patricia Hewitt was the dean of one of the UEA faculties at that time. I didn’t recognise her. Besides, no-one told me that I was supposed to apply different rules to deans. She threw the handbag contents at me, and onto my desk, then claimed that she needed the entire contents of the bag, while she was in the library. She scooped it all up in her arms and stormed up the steps into the library, trying to carry it all in her arms, leaving a trail of strange lotions and potions all the way up the library stairs. Afterwards, we had a discussion about why she might have needed her suntan lotion in the library. I also noticed that she had rather a lot of products from Boots chemists. I believe she has now become a highly paid employee of Boots, after she was the Health Minister who was responsible for setting up privatised doctor’s ‘super-surgeries’ – with a Boots pharmacy in every one. She certainly wasn’t trying to get my job, since she already had a far superior job of her own. But, apart from that, I suspect her attack on me may have been similarly motivated to her attack on Gordon Brown. Lashing out at anyone who hindered her progress, in any way, or offended against her careerist ego and vanity. I’m sure she would have liked to have prevented me from having my job.