“Once a Nazi…”

You know what his last job was ?

As a Homophobic religious extremist myself, I will have to say after reading that, “What the bloody hell those it mean?”.

Why can’t he just say “God hates poofs”, if that is what he means?

My few pence worth:

I complained to Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor and asked why Blair was being allowed to preach. I received a rather nice response back which told me not to stress and get worried because Blair had gone through a course of training before he joined the faith. Hmm Blah!

Arsalan, serious question for you – as a Muslim extremist, are your proud for your fellow Muslims for committing 911, or do you think the Jews did it?

Well it sounds like my gay dog (Harry) would’ve totally confused him.

A friend of mine, a proponent of fine investigative journalism, used to call the last pope ‘evil’ (as well as ‘old shit for brains’). I wonder what he’d have made of this one?

This thread isn’t right. The thing on the main page says there has been 5 replies, but there is clearly only two before this one I’m writting now?

Arsaln: it’s a well-known fact that homophobic religious extremists can’t count.

No I think that you did it, or maybe your Mother?

What a silly question, one that only a brain dead American can produce?

Whoever did it, whether they were Muslims, Jews or Larry’s Mother, I didn’t do it. I was at home at the time and I have witnesses. So whether I think 911 was the best thing Humanity achieved since penicillin or whether I think the less then three 3000 people who died eclipse the Millions who were murdered by the Americans in Vietnam, the Millions that are being murdered by the Americans in both Afghanistan and Iraq, I have nothing to be proud of or ashamed of because I played no part in it. And I am sure that I played no part in it. But as far as I know, your mother could have been responsible because I have not seen any convincing proof that she didn’t.

What a silly racist argument. One that only an American could use. And the argument those silly bloodthirsty people have used to kill millions of Iraqis and Afghans, because they claim that some Saudis and Egyptians killed less than three thousand Americans.

Larry your silly logic is shared by your silly government, to justify its silly wars.

It assumes that 1/4 of the whole planet is responsible for what anyone of them does.

Do you judge yourself like that?

Or do you judge yourself on your own actions.

If you do take full responsibility for the actions of others, name the percentage of the worlds population whose actions you are responsible for?

is it greater or less than 1/4 of the worlds population, because you asked me a question which would require me taking responsibility for the actions of a 1/4 of the world’s population.

You are a silly little hypocrite.

Arsalan, you really need a strong woman to take control of you.

arsalan –

So what is the percentage of the world’s population whose actions you take responsibility for even if you played no part in the action?

Do you take responsibility for the actions of 1/2 the world’s population because you are a male like them?

Do you take responsibility for the 1/3 of the world’s population if you are a Christian like them?

Do you take responsibility for the actions of 1/8 who do not have a religion.

So if I am meant to be proud of ashamed of the actions 1/4 of the world because they share my beliefs, name the number whose actions you share responsibilty for?

Larry, it was just a question.

And I don’t think any singular Muslim should be proud or ashamed of that asshole Mohammed Atta thinking that he was just about to be met by St. Gabriel and 72 raisins (or whatever primitive nonsense he was believing) as he rammed Flight 11 into the North Tower.

Arsalan, I mean.

And so was mine, so whose actions are you should you be ashamed of or proud of?

That is other then your own?

I’m in the Philippines now, where they are preparing for their presidential elections later this year.

The Roman Catholic Church is butting in as usual, debating whether gays have a right to stand, agitating against the Reproductice Health bill, generally elbowing in at every stage of the game, endorsing some candidates, preaching against others – unbelievable arrogance.

Here is the website with the full text of the address by Pope Benedict XVI:

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2010/january/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20100111_diplomatic-corps_en.html

I understand Benedict XVI to mean that materialistic thinking can endanger the environment as well as lead to legislation that (from the perspective of Catholic faith) is wrong.

Arsalan. I agree, do not rise to the bait of Larry. In fact I suggest all who read this ignore the idiot as he is probably some geek with no friends who spends his time surfing websites to leave comments that he thinks are important. Think of him as a spotty little man with a straggly beard, thick coke bottle glasses, no friends,sitting in a bedsit with a cheap laptop. Every time he wants some female company, he makes a financial arrangement, hates people of different faiths and is the type that is completely ignored in social situations. Come to think of it, he is still probably living with his mum. Stick to the topics people, we can all do without personal attacks.

“Stick to the topics people, we can all do without personal attacks”

*splutter*. It would be more convincing without the previous bit. Good advice, though.

I nominate Arsalan’s comments here as ‘Comments of the Year’. If there’s any sort of reply I’d be impressed.

Richard Robinson

Yes, true, it is best to try an avoid letting the bastard divert us from discussing the topics.

I read through the Popes statement. The whole thing, and I still don’t understand a word of it.

I can understand why the Pope is against men sticking willies. That is because the Bible like the Quran doesn’t approve of me sticking their willies in to each other.

What I can’t understand is why didn’t he just say that instead of all that environmental nonsense.

Arsalan: in rising to Larry’s bait you have produced some excellent posts. In so doing you have also exposed Larry’s racism. It’s interesting to note that, while Larry is happy to shriek “anti-semite!” at any opportunity, he requires little prompting to indulge in quite rabid islamophobia. The lessons of history seem to have passed him by.

Larry is not alone this. There are other commenters on this site – I’m sure I don’t need to name them – who are just the same. They all show the same characteristics: an unquestioning faith in the official account of 911; an unbending conviction that Israel is a shining beacon of truth, justice and enlightenment; a near-pathological need to squeal ‘moron’ or ‘nutjob’ or ‘anti-semite’ at anyone who doesn’t fully share their certainty in these matters; and a quite shockingly blatant islamophobia.

I think it must be a syndrome.

Let me get this straight – if I point out that Atta was an idiot for believing that he was to be thanked by angels just after crashing Flight 11 – then I’m racist?

So is any criticism of any spiritual belief of a suicide bomber racist?

Wow.

Would it help , to point out that ‘Muslim’ is a religion, not a race ? Probably not, but we live in hope.

Arsalan – “What I can’t understand is why didn’t he just say that instead of all that environmental nonsense.”

You get a lot of feedback, these days, if you present your bigotries raw, there are people who indulge in critical thinking and stuff, who’ll raise objections. He doesn’t have the unquestionable authority he might have had a century ago (it wasn’t much longer ago than that that the Pope of day made a rule that Popes are infallible. Insecurity creeping in, see ?). A newspaper editor, maybe, could establish the sort of public-clown position to get away with it, but not someone as Respectable as the Pope. There has to be some kind of dressing up.

Abe Rene – “I understand Benedict XVI to mean that materialistic thinking can endanger the environment as well as lead to legislation that (from the perspective of Catholic faith) is wrong.”

It’s a tautology, a self-validating system. Materialistic thinking leads to things that are wrong from the perspective of thinking that materialistic thinking is wrong.

Incidentally, I mentioned his previous job, up top somewhere, and I can’t bear to see a good feed-line go to waste :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregation_for_the_Doctrine_of_the_Faith up there.

Nobody expected that, eh ?

“Would it help , to point out that ‘Muslim’ is a religion, not a race ?”

Ditto Judaism, but ‘religionism’ and racism get conflated because often there are racial undertones.

“Would it help , to point out that ‘Muslim’ is a religion, not a race ?” Ditto Judaism, but ‘religionism’ and racism get conflated because often there are racial undertones.

Or presumptions. yes, I know. I just think it helps to be clear about things, where confusing relgious bigotry with racism doesn’t.

Islam is a religion, one that believes in all the Prophets of Judaism(Peace be upon them all), the additional Prophet of Christianity(Peace be upon him), and the last and final one(Peace be upon him).

So if you take Islam, remove the Prophets Mohummed and Jesus(peace be upon them), but keep all the others, how does it suddenly transform itself from a religion in to a race?

And if you take Judaism, add an addition two Prophets(Peace be upon them) to the many(Peace be upon them) they already have, how would Judaism transform itself in to a religion from a race?

Now these people who cry any Semitism and Racism whenever Israel is attacked, is disagreed with or is not praised to a sufficient level, like to swap race and religion whenever it suits their wailing.

But when I wrote racism, I meant racism, I wasn’t swapping racism and sectarianism. Because the Palestinians being killed are not just Muslims, even though they use the excuse of Muslims to slaughter them. Christian Arabs are slaughtered with just as much impunity. If anything Christian Arabs have suffered more, Because Palestinian Muslims have a 1/4 of the worlds population thinking about them. While the 1/3 of the world who claim to follow the religion founded by a Christian Arab choose to ignore them. Not just Ignore, but many of these fake Christians choose to side with the Zionist colonialists against their fellow Christians.

Those right wingers and Zionist, might say Muslim, but they mean Arab. And sometimes they say Arab, when they mean anyone who has a darker skin then themselves.

They are not just racist, they are the most racist. And I don’t shy away from calling them what they are. They know it, we know it and the world knows it. Just take a look at their rallies and try and spot a brown face. How many brown faces can you see other then the odd Uncle Tom Nigger they paid to show the Cameras that it is possible for them to get hold of a brown person.

And then take a look at ours and see every shade of skin God created on our faces and those of our friends.

Let’s just be clear here that I made fun of Atta for his stupid suicidal religious beliefs and I got called a racist.

I know Larry. Life’s a bitch.

MJ, you’re a pedophile.

Arsalan – I’m sorry, that was careless of me. I didn’t mean to direct it at you, or anyone else in particular, just that the turn the conversation was taking reminded me of the number of times I have seen that conflation made, and I went onto autopilot for a moment.

I’m becoming defensive, maybe. Guessing at ways in which any comment can become a basis for red herrings, straw men, and general heat & confusion; and hoping to forestall them before they’re even tried.

Larry what I am about to tell you may shock you.

People are not fighting America because of suicidal beliefs, people fight America because America fights them.

The aim of people who die fighting America isn’t to be killed, it is to kill you.

They are just willing to lose their life if it means you will lose yours.

I know your governments wants you to believe people like Atta(if he did it as you believe) couldn’t careless about the 500 000 Iraqi Children who died before 911 in Iraq due to America’s blockade of Iraq.

You may agree with Madlin Albraight when she said that the 500 000 dead Iraqi babies was a price worth paying but that doesn’t mean the likes of Atta agreed with her. Instead they wanted to hurt you, any of you that it was possible for them to hurt. Even if it meant dying in the process.

But Larry, if those people who are willing to die trying to kill you ever gain weapons, with which they can kill you without dying they will use them and live even if it means the likes of you will have to think of a reason other then suicide to figure out why so many people want to kill you.

Notice that I didn’t write “you will have to realise that people kill you because you kill them”, because I believe you will never come to that realisation. because that realisation will mean that you may have to contemplate stopping your nations imperialism. I think that is impossible for you.

Richard Robinson, Brother, Friend, that post even though it was a reply to you it was directed at Larry.

I think we should keep an eye on gay-bashing stats.

I will try and push this back on to the topic too. Tech is right, what people say does result in people getting beaten up.

My wife was beaten up a couple of days ago after UKIP said what they did.

But the police refused to record it as a race crime, they recorded it as common assault meaning it isn’t going to be investigated. And if the person who did it is ever caught, nothing is really going to happen.

I am going to go against the grain here even if it does mean disagreeing with my friends. I think the Pope as the leader of a religion, or even as a knowledgeable person of a scripture has every right to make a judgement on what is lawful or unlawful in that religion.

So if the Pope was to says “Catholics please do not stick your bits in other men’s bums because God said not to do it in Leviticus as well as the verse talking about what happened to the people of Sodom”, or even if he said “the catholic church and the bible do not recognise the marriage between people of the same sex”, or even if he stated the churches position on whether Mexico and other countries, Catholic or otherwise should recognise marriage between people of the same sex is not only his right but his duty.

But I think the words he used leave people very confused, and makes himself look bad.

I think religious people should use religious arguments if that is what they mean instead of using some sort of warped logic to try and appeal to those who do not share their religion.

I think he is knowledgeable in his scripture, so he should restrict his arguments to his scripture instead of trying to justify his scriptures position with logic, non-sensible logic at that.

Great post arsalan, I agree with every word. I’m very sorry to hear about your wife, I hope she’s OK.

I think the pope’s duty is to speak up for Jesus, myself, since Jesus is the Son of God, and the last prophet of Christianity and all. And I don’t remember Jesus having any opinions about penises. So I don’t see why the pope should have, in public, either.

The god of Abraham is a myth.

wow, someone who knew Abraham!

Has anyone got a cure for that syphillitic spot on the arsehole of humanity who calls himself:”Larry from St Louis”?

The bloke is rotting up the recesses of his own backside.If he believes in the tales re-Atta and the virgins in heaven he’s living with the fairies!

Maybe the virgins got on the flight with incendaries in their knickers to help speed ol’Atta on his way to Allah!

On the other hand maybe Larry’s stuffing thermite down his underpants as we speak!

larry, tho I am ignoring you on principle, would point out that tungsten has the same style as steelback/apostate, and is not endorsed by anyone else on the board. so not worth worrying about.

I said “raisins” – not “virgins.” But you’ll have to take that up with Arsalan.

Obviously, as any poster with a grounding in English, or indeed American, literature will have realised, Arsalan can not, and could never be, ‘tungsten’.

The thing is, people’s writing is quite individual. Parody is easy, but doing someone else so well that you can’t tell the difference, isn’t. Because you have to have their *heart* I think. Writing is a very moral experience, in a way. The truth will out.

Larry, if Atta did do it, he did it because he met you.

Larry no one here has ever met you, but I’m sure after reading a few of your posts the majority of people here have considered going Kamikaze on an American building.

“I think he is knowledgeable in his scripture, so he should restrict his arguments to his scripture instead of trying to justify his scriptures position with logic, non-sensible logic at that.”

Yes. That would make sense and be a coherent position. But, the Old Testament contains all sorts of injunctions; trying to follow them all would, ah, how can I put this ? allow him to demonstrate that he has the courage of his convictions.

I don’t think he eats kosher, does he ? just for one little example. The death penalty for witches might not be universally popular these days, either.

There’s a list of daft examples that gets widely quoted in this context, but I don’t have a copy to hand.

It’s hard to see how he isn’t cherry-picking his favourite bits, is my point. Not that he or his sect have a monopoly on that.

“Richard Robinson, Brother, Friend”

You too, mate

I’m not very experienced with blog-commenting (but I’ve been reading here for years), I’m having trouble keeping track of the various threads.

anyone here live in London? just wondering.

The Gurdian CIF section meet up, but it is so naff I take it back.

I think I have a unique position on this.

The majority here will argue that the Pope should repudiate the old testament ban on homosexuality because he doesn’t follow the ban on pork.

But I would advice the opposite. I would say he should abide by the ban on pork because he believes in the ban on homosexuality.

If Christians believe the old testament is genuine and it hasn’t been abrogated by the New. They should follow all of it.

I am someone who breaks the rules of left right discussions. Rights are stingy on welfare and tough on morality, while lefts are generous on welfare and lax on morality.

I am pro welfare as well as being pro old fashioned morality.

“I’m having trouble keeping track of the various threads”.

Me too. So many have sprung up all of a sudden I’ve lost track of what I’ve said where and in response to whom.

Tech I live here.

That’s OK, MJ, reviews reveal that you have most often been – funny! And to the point. And open-minded. Cheers.

Hey Arsalan, me too.

Richard Robinson:

A tautology means that the premiss and the conclusion are essentially identical. It is a purely theoretical affair. The double consequences of materialist thinking here, however are events from the real world, that need not have happened.

As for the ‘closed system’, I don’t believe Benedict XVI was trying to convince materialists in his address; it was made to the Vatican’s diplomats.

“A tautology means that the premiss and the conclusion are essentially identical. It is a purely theoretical affair.”

Yes.

“The double consequences of materialist thinking here, however are events from the real world, that need not have happened.”

Materialist thinking has environmental consequences ? Yes, I’d agree.

But, and legislation he doesn’t like ? That’s back to beliefs.

“As for the ‘closed system’, I don’t believe Benedict XVI was trying to convince materialists in his address; it was made to the Vatican’s diplomats.”

Again, agree.

“Larry what I am about to tell you may shock you.

People are not fighting America because of suicidal beliefs, people fight America because America fights them.

The aim of people who die fighting America isn’t to be killed, it is to kill you.

They are just willing to lose their life if it means you will lose yours.”

Oh! I think no one is particularly shocked by that.

Some people are just crazy and will try to kill for crazy reasons.

You’ll remember that Osama bin Laden et. al’s declaration of war was published in al-Quds al-Arabi in which he said it was the duty of every Muslim to kill Americans and Jews where ever they may find them. It didn’t matter if they were soldiers or civilians, they should just be killed.

Now, just supposing we take your view (that many others on the board pretend doesn’t exist) that “if those people who are willing to die trying to kill you ever gain weapons, with which they can kill you without dying they will use them and live even if it means the likes of you will have to think of a reason other then suicide to figure out why so many people want to kill you.

Notice that I didn’t write “you will have to realise that people kill you because you kill them”, because I believe you will never come to that realisation. because that realisation will mean that you may have to contemplate stopping your nations imperialism. I think that is impossible for you” then really what you are saying is that there can never be an accomodation between two sets of beliefs.

Osama bin Laden believes that those Muslims who don’t kill Americans and Jews where ever and whenever they can are not real Muslims. “Fake Muslims” is a term I have heard you use plenty of times now. Where do you stand on this issue? What is a fake Muslim to you?

I believe that I have a lot of Muslim friends here in Japan, but I wonder if you would deny them their beliefs? If so then who is the Islamaphobe? Is it you who denies my friends their right to call themselves Muslim or is it my friends who don’t recognize the idea of splitting the world into these incompatible groups and considering non-Muslims to be evil?

Also, what do you think of the radical Islamists who shoot up Sri Lankan cricket players? Or those that kill Japanese tourists in Luxor or Japanese businessmen on flights from Manila? Or holidaymakers in Bali?

What justifies those atrocities?

I hate everyone. On my blog Spatula City I trash everyone, because I know I am better than all of you.

I hate all of you people, I dare you to write anything on my blog, that I don’t like.

I block IP addresses so I can always be right in my small little world.

I am an ass, but that is who I am.

People hate me because I hate them.

Andy Blum

Spatula City

blog.andyblume.com/

@Richard.Thanks, now everyone, when ever you read a post from ‘Larry of St Louis’ what mental image of this idiot springs to mind ?

Angry

So do you believe the likes of the Bin Ladin have Choosen America as the enemy because they Hate America’s Freedom, or because they hate America’s Imperialism?

If you believe Muslims hate America because of its freedom, do you think we are really happy with America for bombing loads of Muslim Countries?

Do you think we are really happy with America for giving Israel and others loads of Bombs to kill us with?

But in spite of all Muslims America has killed to make us happy, we still hate you because of your freedom?

Hi Guys,

Sorry for the bullshit comment above, I’ve got some retarded cunt stalking me across the internet.

How this ended up on your blog, one I’ve never heard of before today, is totally beyond me.

Cheers

(real) Andy.

angri,larry,technicolor et al appear to be up to their necks in their own excrement!

They share a level of insight about on a par with a fortnight old road-kill.

In fact you’d probably get more insight from the latter.

Larry actually addressed a message board contribution to himself a couple of days ago and technicolour spells his name more than one different way.

These guys are so inept they should be in a Carry On film.

Any suggestions for a title?

Carry On Sayanin wannabes?

Maybe as they’re so bad at covering for their Israeli/Mishpucka sponsors they could feature in a newspaper headline along the lines of Shabaz Goy Expose Themselves!

Maybe angribirdbrain,technicoler delux and Larry The Retard are the Jewish equivalent of failed suicide bombers-

Underpants Bombers Soiled!

God love ‘em though.This site sure as Hell wouldn’t be the same without them.

Lowering the tone never did any harm.And these guys have cetainly done that.

Still,it does us all good to laugh now and again-at their expense!

Steel

You know what cracked me up was when the functional illiterate-who calls himself tecnicolor but can’t spell it- got all solicitous re-his mate Larry’s welfare.

When he warned his pal,Larry that “tungsten” could be the same person as me or you I was in hysterics.

They’re getting paranoid!

Apparently tecnicolor has abrogated to himself the right to speak for everyone on the blog too! Gee whizz he and his Chabad chum,Larry are sticking together.

This is better than any Carry On film!

If these guys are anything to go by-the Loony Lobby is several kosher sandwiches short of a picnic!

There was a reason why I didn’t answer any of your questions but instead asked you a question. That is because your questions are beneath an answer. They are exactly what Larry asked me in the beginning of this thread, except with a change of words. So I will not be surprised if it turns out you two are the same people.

If you are too thick to understand what I said in my reply to Larry, let me repeat it with a change of words that might dumb it down to your level.

There are many Muslims in the world(1/4 of the world are Muslim). Each of whom have said or did many things. I agree with some of the things that are said or done and not others.

I am a Muslim. Muslims believe the last and Final Prophet of God is the Prophet Mohummed pbh. So my source of Islam and the source of Islam for all Muslims is What the Prophet PBH brought.

So when you or Larry, who may just be you ask me if I agree with this done by that person, or that said by this person you are proving how silly you are. We don’t have Popes in Islam, we really don’t even have a clergy in the way other religions do. Each person makes his own mind up about how they interpret the scripture. This is because we believe only Prophet’s are infallible, and the last Prophet was Mohammad pbh and no Prophet will come after him. So if someone likes Uthama bin Ladin or hates him it makes no difference to him, because he is just a Human being, he does not receive revelation so each and every Muslim will judge what he says and does by our scripture.

Angry, I have clicked on your website. You have accused me of saying or believing in things I have never said. Instead you assumed as you did with your last post I believe in those things because I am Muslim.

And Angry, you interpret Uthma bin Ladins, words as meaning what you said they mean. I would like to ask you where you studied Arabic to be able to translate his words and obtain that meaning?

I interpret them to mean the Americans who are killing us, not the ones who support us, the Jews who are killing us not the Jews who are supporting us. This would be obvious to everyone Angry, except maybe you, Larry and bunch of other people educated in the dumbed down country across the Atlantic.

In many of your posts you confuse hatred of Israel and is evil deeds with hatred of Jews. Let me make this clear. Let me make this clear. We are only against the people who are killing us. No Muslim, not Uthama bin Ladin or anyone, no matter how extreme wants to kill people like Natricata and other Non-Zionist Jews, we are not against the people who refuse to kill us. If it was Jews we hated, People like Natricata would be the ones we would be killing. Because they are real Jews, they Keep Kosher, Pray and believe in their scripture. While the Israelis who kill us are almost entirely a bunch of Atheists who eat pork at every opportunity and just call themselves Jews for purely racist reasons.

And Angry if your friends in Japan are anything like you, will will not shy away from calling them heretical disbelievers. Zionists insist on calling atheists Jews just because of alleged ancestry. But Muslims do not call people who do not believe in Islam Muslims.

Do you reckon Larry’s been trapped by an evil internet pervert?

So the film title is:Larry In Technicolor!

Well this was a gay thread.I reckon they’ll be very happy!

Faggots!

Haaretz headline:

MISHPUCKA IN OFFAL ROADKILL SCAM!

LOL

Arsalan, I completely agree with you that it’s ridiculous to hold all Muslims responsible for the actions of Al Qa’ida – it’s like holding all Americans responsible for torture at Abu Ghraib, or all Catholics responsible for ‘Real IRA’ bombings, or all Protestants responsible for Unionist murders.

I also agree that most terrorism is motivated by revenge, which does not make it justified or right, but does mean that the most effective way to reduce terrorism would be for our governments to stop bombing and invading other countries and stop arming and funding dictatorships and the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and siege of Gaza.

“Arsalan, I completely agree with you that it’s ridiculous to hold all Muslims responsible for the actions of Al Qa’ida”

Nobody does that. It is however, also ridiculous not to hold Al-Qaeda responsible for the actions of Al-Qaeda.

http://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/980223-fatwa.htm