Tough on beards, tough on the causes of beards, eh ?

As someone who likes a warm neck in winter, this worries me.

Why do you bother, Craig? The only people attracted to your blog (before me and another guy showed up) have been dumbass 911 conspiracy nuts. Also, that Roderick Russell character – you certainly egged him on in his deranged thoughts.

Larry, but you can’t keep away though, can you?!

Telling…..

There are thousands of us out here following Craig’s posts…thousands

“Larry, but you can’t keep away though, can you?! Telling…..”

–Bert

Heh heh … He’s on assignment. Or he’s from Seattle.

One way or another, he’s obsessed with this place.

“The only people attracted to your blog (before me and another guy showed up) have been dumbass 911 conspiracy nuts.”

See? He’s 100% wrong. Again. As he was when he claimed that I (or maybe someone else?) wanted Haitian children left to die. He doesn’t care what he claims – and provides no quotes. Complete fabrications are fine with our boy Lar.

Why IRAQ Larry? You couldn’t tell me before…

dreoilin, I’m just glad that the U.S. military is there so less children have to die.

The US military were not giving out any aid in Haiti before yesterday. Check Sky and BBC and Channel 4.

Yesterday they (the US military) tried a helicopter drop of a handful of individual meals, as an experiment. Today they’re going to try a bigger drop from choppers.

Aid agencies are angry that too many military flights were allowed in while flights carrying aid were diverted.

I think our Yank friend’s picture of the utterly exhausted troops giving out food and water since they arrived is highly exaggerated, if not entirely untrue. If they were, Sky News (sister station of Fox) were completely unaware of it. And the Beeb. And Channel 4.

All of whom are there with cameras and talking about *most* people having no aid — up to 2am last night.

I wrote: “our Yank friend’s picture of the utterly exhausted troops giving out food and water …”

For anyone reading, that’s on the “Missing you” thread. Have a great day everyone. See you later.

Karadzic’s makeover is my favourite. It reminds me of a bad spy disguise, the grey beard and tinted glasses, that you find people wearing in piss take spy films. Worked a treat though!!!

yep, dreoilin, I reckon ol’ Larry is on assignment.

Whenever a post, and/or comments thereupon, gets ‘down to the bone’, Larry appears with his “911 conspiracy nuts” catchphrase….

Ho Ho

dreoilin, I’m watching video right now of U.S. troops delivering aid. You’re being quite selective with the media that you consume. But that’s fairly typical of a dumbass 911 truther.

You’re quite sick for taking advantage of the dying to score political points.

It’s almost like Larry’s been ordered to attend this site…

Dont feed the trolls..

“It’s almost like Larry’s been ordered to attend this site…”

Where have you been? I’ve already been accused of being a CIA-Mossad-BNP agent!

Man, this boy is annoying. Insults, interruptions, mindless repetitions, accusation, more insults.

Just to reiterate, my mother got her vague belief that the US government were somehow complicit in 9/11 from the mainstream media. It is quite a mainstream belief. Suspecting that something is hokey about 9/11 is not the equivalent of believing in giant lizards. Why anyone who does is attacked as loons and crazies is beyond me. I think the ‘loons’ and ‘crazies’ are the people prepared to attack and kill, myself.

Haiti receives US aid airdrops

*19 January 2010*

By Channel 4 News

“The US military _begins_ to airdrop supplies into earthquake-shattered Haiti as doctors warn disease could spread among the thousands left injured and homeless a week ago …”

Don’t feed the trolls darlings, it only encourages them. You can do what I do which is to not bother reading anything written by the idiot brothers. Scroll on and ignore.

p.s. I’m only Mrs Average and I can see that the official 911 account is utter nonsense.

Whereas I’m quite prepared to believe that the video of Bush reading that book was edited. It was originally much longer, and what he was being told as he sat there that day was this:

“Mr President, we’re fucked, Mr President. They’ve flown a fucking plane into the twin towers, Mr President, they’ve got more planes – maybe three, four, who knows? Yeah, I know we were told something like this was going to happen. By the fucking French! Who believes the fucking French? What are we going to do? What are we going to do? (coughs) It’s not looking good, Mr President. Unless we immediately proceed to do something drastic we will be publicly revealed to be a bunch of venal, incompetent, panicking, useless assholes, Mr President’.

But that’s just me.

@ technicolour

At least the French appear to be good at something, by popular acclaim.

technicolour, (i) that makes no sense and (ii) to the extent that it makes the slightest sense, you’re crazier than I thought. Seek help.

Mrs. Average, thank you for confirming to me that the vast majority of commenters on this blog are 911 conspiracy nuts.

The extremist right wing in America would welcome you.

If anyone wants to understand where Larry’s coming from, you could do worse than read “Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them”.

They really do make it all up, and then when they’re caught out as they always are, they just parse and lie their way out of it again.

Read it and see:

http://www.amazon.com/Lies-Lying-Liars-Tell-Them/dp/0525947647

The original neo-con artist called them noble lies, but they’re just common or garden evil lies from people of no other ability than making a buck for themselves.

Larry:”Mrs. Average, thank you for confirming to me that the vast majority of commenters on this blog are 911 conspiracy nuts.

The extremist right wing in America would welcome you.”

Right, Left, everyone knows 911 was a conspiracy alright, & not just involving Mr Tim Osman….

Right, the old “Tim Osman.” “Tim Osman” is entirely the product of the imagination of a creepy meth cooker who is now serving time in a California prison. That guy (can’t remember his name) was present for the handover of the Iranian hostages in 1980 (so he claims). He’s discovered a limitless source of free energy (so he claims). Come to think of it – he claims a lot of crazy things!

FAIL. COMPLETE FAIL.

But please do bring up Tim Osman again! Once again the British are manipulated by crazy Americans!

“If anyone wants to understand where Larry’s coming from, you could do worse than read “Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them”.”

You people make this too easy!

Do you really think that Al Franken would back you up in your conspiracies? He’s now a Senator – is he calling for an investigation of Bush and Cheney’s “involvement” in 911?

“is he calling for an investigation of Bush and Cheney’s “involvement” in 911?”

Jesus, do you have any other subject inside that diseased brain of yours? Just wondering. It gets terribly boring, Larry honey.

“At least the French appear to be good at something, by popular acclaim”

They’re a damn sight better company than Larry. They speak a lovely language, too. Music to the ears.

I’m beginning to think ol’ Lar wrote a thesis (or something) on 9/11. He’s trying to find a use for it here.

dreoilin, so far, you’ve got the best arguments against my positions!

Larry,

so that’s why you misrepresent what Dreoilin says, huh?

Please tell me how I misrepresented what Dreoilin says.

Larry:”Right, the old “Tim Osman.” “Tim Osman” is entirely the product of the imagination of a creepy meth cooker who is now serving time in a California prison. That guy (can’t remember his name) was present for the handover of the Iranian hostages in 1980 (so he claims). He’s discovered a limitless source of free energy (so he claims). Come to think of it – he claims a lot of crazy things!

FAIL. COMPLETE FAIL.”

Well Larry, you certainly failed to mention the name of the ‘creepy meth cooker’…

See this document:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pnwp8r & read this article:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ac5j4 for more on Tim Osman’s visit to the US.

When you remember the name of the methman, please let us know…

“dreoilin, so far, you’ve got the best arguments against my positions!”

Posted by: Larry at 9:33 PM

I have made no arguments regarding 9/11. Which made your comment (now deleted) about me being a “stupid 9/11 truther” even sillier than your normal level of pap.

You asked why I brought up Haiti? Use your head. It’s the biggest disaster the world has seen in donkeys’ years. The biggest disaster UN teams have faced since the UN was founded. The most horrible and heartbreaking spectacle happening in front of our eyes on the News. What more would you require for me to bring up a subject.

You have the gall to suggest I brought it up to strike at your self-important country. You are self-obsessed and selfish, Larry, as are so many of your compatriots. I hope you didn’t take Rush Limbaugh’s advice: “Don’t donate towards Haiti. You’ve paid your US income tax already”.

And I hope Clark ignores your callousness.

I suspect he’s twice the person you are.

Annie,

It’s Riconosciuto, your primary source, who was cooking up the meth.

http://www.911myths.com/html/tim_osman_was_bin_ladin_.html

It’s HILARIOUS that you’re so easily manipulated by crazy people.

The Rule of Law Has Been Lost

informationclearinghouse.info/article24444.htm

Extract

The greatest human achievement is the subordination of government to law. This was an English achievement that required eight centuries of struggle, beginning in the ninth century when King Alfred the Great codified the common law, moving forward with the Magna Carta in the thirteenth century and culminating with the Glorious Revolution in the late seventeenth century.

The success of this long struggle made law a shield of the people. As an English colony, America inherited this unique achievement that made English speaking peoples the most free in the world.

In the first decade of the twenty-first century, this achievement was lost in the United States and, perhaps, in England as well.

As Lawrence Stratton and I show in our book, The Tyranny of Good Intentions (2000), the protective features of law in the U.S. were eroded in the twentieth century by prosecutorial abuse and by setting aside law in order to better pursue criminals. By the time of our second edition (2008), law as a shield of the people no longer existed. Respect for the Constitution and rule of law had given way to executive branch claims that during time of war government is not constrained by law or Constitution.

Government lawyers told President Bush that he did not have to obey the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which prohibits the government from spying on citizens without a warrant, thus destroying the right to privacy. The U.S. Department of Justice ruled that the President did not have to obey U.S. law prohibiting torture or the Geneva Conventions. Habeas corpus protection, a Constitutional right, was stripped from U.S. citizens. Medieval dungeons, torture, and the windowless cells of Stalin’s Lubyanka Prison reappeared under American government auspices.

The American people’s elected representatives in Congress endorsed the executive branch’s overthrow of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Law schools and bar associations were essentially silent in the face of this overthrow of mankind’s greatest achievement. Some parts of the federal judiciary voted with the executive branch; other parts made a feeble resistance. Today in the name of “the war on terror,” the executive branch does whatever it wants. There is no accountability.

The First Amendment has been abridged and may soon be criminalized. Protests against, and criticisms of, the U.S. government’s illegal invasions of Muslim countries and war crimes against civilian populations have been construed by executive branch officials as “giving aid and comfort to the enemy.” As American citizens have been imprisoned for giving aid to Muslim charities that the executive branch has decreed, without proof in a court of law, to be under the control of “terrorists,” any form of opposition to the government’s wars and criminal actions can also be construed as aiding terrorists and be cause for arrest and indefinite detention.

One Obama appointee, Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, advocates that the U.S. government create a cadre of covert agents to infiltrate anti-war groups and groups opposed to U.S.government policies in order to provoke them into actions or statements for which they can be discredited and even arrested.

Sunstein defines those who criticize the government’s increasingly lawless behavior as “extremists,” which, to the general public, sounds much like “terrorists.” In essence, Sunstein wants to generalize the F.B.I.’s practice of infiltrating dissidents and organizing them around a “terrorist plot” in order to arrest them. That this proposal comes from a Harvard Law School professor demonstrates the collapse of respect for law among American law professors themselves, ranging from John Yoo at Berkeley, the advocate of torture, to Sunstein at Harvard, a totalitarian who advocates war on the First Amendment.

The U.S. Department of State has taken up Sunstein’s idea. Last month Eva Golinger reported in the Swiss newspaper, Zeit-Fragen, that the State Department plans to organize youth in “Twitter Revolutions” to destabilize countries and bring about regime change in order to achieve more American puppet states, such as the ones in Egypt, Jordan, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Canada, Mexico, Columbia, Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic states, Britain, and Western and Eastern Europe.

The First Amendment is being closed down. Its place is being taken by propaganda in behalf of whatever government does. As Stratton and I wrote in the second edition of our book documenting the destruction of law in the United States:

“Never in its history have the American people faced such danger to their constitutional protections as they face today from those in the government who hold the reins of power and from elements of the legal profession and the federal judiciary that support ‘energy in the executive.’ An assertive executive backed by an aggressive U.S. Department of Justice (sic) and unobstructed by a supine Congress and an intimidated corporate media has demonstrated an ability to ignore statutory law and public opinion. The precedents that have been set during the opening years of the twenty-first century bode ill for the future of American liberty.”

Similar assaults on the rule of law can be observed in England. However, the British have not completely given up on accountable government. The Chilcot Inquiry is looking into how Britain was deceived into participating in the illegal U.S. invasion of Iraq. President Obama, of course, has blocked any inquiry into how the U.S. was deceived into attacking Iraq in violation of law.

Much damning information has come out about Blair’s deception of the British government and people. Sir David Manning, foreign policy advisor to Blair, told the Chilcot Inquiry that Blair had promised Bush support for the invasion almost a year in advance. Blair had told his country that it was a last minute call based on proof of Iraq’s possession of weapons of mass destruction.

Sir William Patey told the inquiry that President Bush began talking about invading Iraq six or seven months prior to September 11, 2001. A devastating official memo has come to light from Lord Goldsmith, Prime Minister Blair’s top law official, advising Blair that an invasion of Iraq would be in breach of international law.

Now a secret and personal letter to Prime Minister Blair from his Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, has surfaced. In the letter, the Foreign Secretary warned the Prime Minister that his case for military invasion of Iraq was of dubious legality and was likely as false as the argument that removing Saddam Hussein would bring Iraqis a better life.

Blair himself must now testify. He has the reputation, whether deserved or not, as one of the slickest liars in the world. But some accountability seems to be heading his way. The Sunday Times (London) reported on January 17 that the latest poll indicates that 52 percent of the British people believe that Blair deliberately misled his country in order to take Britain to war for the Americans. About one quarter of the British people think Blair should be put on trial as a war criminal.

Unlike the U.S., which takes care to keep the government unaccountable to law, Britain is a member of the International Criminal Court, so Blair does stand some risk of being held accountable for the war crimes of President George W. Bush’s regime and the U.S. Congress.

In contrast, insouciant Americans are content for their government to behave illegally. A majority supports torture despite its illegality, and a McClatchy-Ipsos poll found that 51 percent of Americans agree that “it is necessary to give up some civil liberties in order to make the country safe from terrorism.”

As our Founding Fathers warned, fools who give up liberty for security will have neither.

Annie,

So do you believe EVERYTHING Mr. Riconosciuto claims?

BBBBWWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAAAA!

dreoilin, you were using Haiti as an opportunity to slam the U.S.

Are you seriously claiming that you’re not reflexively anti-American? Of course you are.

You write:

“I hope you didn’t take Rush Limbaugh’s advice: “Don’t donate towards Haiti. You’ve paid your US income tax already”.”

Well, now, that’s just a silly false dichotomy isn’t it? I was an Obama voter, so that pretty much disqualifies me from having any sort of connection from Rush Limbaugh.

The only person who has a connection to the “don’t donate” position is Craig Murray. He’s gone on the Alex Jones radio show. Alex Jones is a crazy right-wing radio host – certainly more crazy than Rush Limbaugh. Today, Alex Jones was telling his listeners not to donate to the International Red Cross, because the money would go to “gun grabbers” and “land grabbers.”

One hopes that Craig Murray doesn’t once again go on that radio show.

One hopes that Larry, in a quieter moment perhaps, grasps the point of dreoilin’s excellent post.

MJ – you neglected to answer me from before:

MJ, so basically what you’re saying is that you believe everything told to you by Le Figaro freelance writer Alexandra Richard.

http://nyctohylophobia.blogspot.com/2007/06/obl-in-dubai-myth.html

Do you not see how rampant anti-Americanism is? Why wouldn’t it infect even the best newspapers of Europe?

Infamy, infamy !

Everyone’s got it infamy !

If anyone wants to understand where Larry’s coming from, you could do worse than read “Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them”.

They really do make it all up, and then when they’re caught out as they always are, they just parse and lie their way out of it again, or invent straw men to detract from the issue at hand.

Read it and see:

http://www.amazon.com/Lies-Lying-Liars-Tell-Them/dp/0525947647

The original neo-con artist called them noble lies, but they’re just common or garden evil lies from people of no other ability than making a buck for themselves.

what a simplistic book

and don’t you know that Al Franken thinks of you 911 conspiracy types as nutjobs?

“The Blair lies” – That Al Franken guy (who has become a senator since writing it) is quite an entertaining fellow. I’ve got his “The truth with jokes” which is well worth a read. He used to have a fairly passable radio show too. You’re spot on about these liars though, it’s just layer after layer of lies. Expose some lies, they’ll come out with a bunch more. Expose those, and they’ll revert back to the original lies, with ridicule, profanity and personal insult the whole while. Pretty much sums up the act of ol’ Larry “wide stance” boy here!

Glenn, I met Al Franken when he was campaigning in Minnesota! Even though I made it clear that I wasn’t a MN voter, he was kind enough to chat with me. I congratulated him on being an Air America radio host who absolutely did not entertain dumb 911 conspiracies. He told me you idiots made his life difficult at times.

Pedant’s corner:

“Everyone’s got it infamy !”

should be

“They’ve all got it infamy!”

“They’ve all got it infamy!”

I was half expecting to be told it should be ‘in for me’, and all. I’m not sure I ever even heard the original. I didn’t go trawling the net for transcripts, either; pedants need feeding too