Never forget what the Tories really are

by craig on April 24, 2010 11:58 am in The Election

behind Cameron’s slipping smile. Tory controlled Aylesbury Council has just banned an anti-racism carnival while giving permission for a racist march through town by the “English Defence League”.

Incidentally, I see that the opposition Lib Dem leader on Aylesbury Council is my old friend Alan Sherwell. We were on the national exec of the National League of Young Liberals together back in 1976!

14 Comments

  1. Suhayl Saadi

    24 Apr, 2010 - 12:43 pm

    As in one of your previous posts, it was declared (by himself) that David Cameron has “met a black man”. Shock horror! Put the flags out. He’s probably also once met a ‘member of the working classes’, too. Says it all.

  2. A failing of Aylesbury council…also a failing of the locals to demonstrate that the EDL present a clear and present danger to breaching public safety.

    All they had to do was to show recent EDL events lead to violence.

    Luton council banned them due to the locals demanding and proving the risks, but I suspect the locals missed a trick here.

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  3. Julian

    24 Apr, 2010 - 1:04 pm

    For every example of one party doing something despicable, it seems there’s a counter-example. When will politicians realise that people are fed up with this tit-for-tat criticism, with you pretending that your opponents are monsters?

    See, for example, http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2010/04/hideously-white-libdem-candidates.html

  4. Richard Robinson

    24 Apr, 2010 - 2:20 pm

    “When will politicians realise that people are fed up with this tit-for-tat criticism, with you pretending that your opponents are monsters?”

    Rolls eyes.

    There’s an election on, and the parties are making as much noise as they can about what’s wrong with their competitors ? Oh my goodness, the monsters ! When will someone bring me my smelling-salts ? Are we irritated by rhetorical questions yet ?

    But to answer it anyway – “probably never”.

  5. Courtenay Barnett

    24 Apr, 2010 - 3:45 pm

    Julian,

    That’s politics.

    Someone’s “tit” and another’s “tat”. The question for the citizens and electorate is, not whether one or the other ( i.e. wrongdoing) exists in all the parties – but, whether you approve of the “tit” or the “tat” and that determines and colours your politics.

    The quest for power everywhere is not a nice, clean, and smooth path.

  6. Jeff

    24 Apr, 2010 - 3:47 pm

    Exactly Richard, seems like a case of “do as I say, not as I do”.

    Incidentally, I met a black man the other day, he was 50 but served in the Royal Navy for 55 years. Just incredible.

  7. Craig

    24 Apr, 2010 - 3:50 pm

    Julian

    You have to forgive me. I just returned t the political camp I was brought up in after a brief absence, and I am having to retrain my visceral hatred of tories reflex

  8. Duncan

    24 Apr, 2010 - 4:46 pm

    Oh come on; that doesn’t show that all Tories are rascists, just that some Tories are rascists. And we knew that.

    Big tent part; David Cameron isn’t rascist, Aylesbury Council is. David Cameron isn’t a homophobe, all of his MPs who were in the house at the time Section 28 was passed are. David Cameron is an environmentalist, half his party deny the existence of climate change. David Cameron supports womens’ rights, David Cameron wants to take the abortion limit back to 20 weeks.

    Massive tent.

  9. Abe Rene

    24 Apr, 2010 - 6:11 pm

    So, the Lib Dem parliamentary party consists of whites only. I guess they should attract a number of Tory voters that way. Seriously, if I were a Tory or Nulab supporter, I would make capital of this. The LDs had better do something about this.

  10. Iain Orr

    24 Apr, 2010 - 6:23 pm

    Watching the 2nd debate, did anyone else get the impression that Cameron was scowling disapprovingly at Clegg and Brown as if they were fags who had burnt his toast?

    Is a transcript of the debates available? I would like to check my memory that Brown used to excess a rhetorical technique that is not on the whole a widely accepted “British value” – ie praise of himself (aka boasting). Blair also employed New Labour self-attribution of good points (“I’m a regular sort of a guy”) though with more finesse. But then New Labour was from the start Words as Deeds. Brown’s “Jobs, jobs, jobs” does not in itself create or save a single job.

  11. Craig

    24 Apr, 2010 - 6:42 pm

    Abe Rene

    I am personally completely against discrimination even if disguised as positive. Candidates should be chosen on merit, irrespective of race, sex etc.

  12. Courtenay Barnett

    24 Apr, 2010 - 8:07 pm

    Craig,

    In this exchange:-

    “Abe Rene

    I am personally completely against discrimination even if disguised as positive. Candidates should be chosen on merit, irrespective of race, sex etc.”

    Here you are speaking to political selection of candidates.

    The concept of “positive discrimination” falls within a broader historical context ( and I am sure that as a historian – Craig – you will agree) – that the fact of “candidate’s political selection on the basis of merit” ) should not exclude the other historically based socio-economic aspect of “positive dicrimination”. Therefore does the fact of historically based disadvantage – totally exclude the progressive concept of “positive discrimination”?

  13. ScouseBilly

    24 Apr, 2010 - 8:27 pm

    @Courtenay Barnett, “the progressive concept of’positive discrimination’”

    It’s the same as “post-normal science”, a “progressive distortion” of paradigms and values that have hitherto served us well.

  14. Peter Risdon

    29 Apr, 2010 - 3:00 pm

    Do you have links for those two claims? Googling doesn’t completely support your presentation of events.

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