Bent Cops on Parade

by craig on July 13, 2011 9:35 am in Uncategorized

The great airline bomb plot was a totally impractical idea in the minds of a very small number (four) of isolated extremists, penetrated from the start by the state, who never did make their liquid bomb cocktail work, never did blow anything up, never did buy plane tickets and for the most part hadn’t actually got round to applying for passports yet. However, these deluded fantasists provided the excuse for billions of taxpayers’ money to be pumped to the security industry, and made air travel even more annoying with the crazy war on shampoo.

They also proved an invaluable bogeyman of last resort for bent Met cops, who could not chase real harmful monsters like Rupert Murdoch because they were too busy colluding with Murdoch in pumping out propaganda about the fantasy monsters – sorry, saving us all from terrorists.

An invaluable analysis on the bent cops from Nick Davies here – although even he feels he has to genuflect to “the terrorist threat”.

Aren’t members of parliament amazing? Suddenly they all have noticed that the Murdoch influence is a cancer in society, which is something the rest of us have known for 30 years. Equally suddenly they have noticed that Andy Hayman is a lying buffoon, whereas before they took him as a great bastion against terrorism whose every word must be treated with respect. This blog and other blogs have been telling them he was a lying buffoon for years, most indisputably over the appalling lies he spread in the media about Jean Charles De Menezes.

Good work on Hayman here. I had missed the fact that Murdoch employed him after he left the cops.

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  1. Nick Davies mentioned how Yates and Hayward had completely misjudged the public mood, as reflected by MPs, which is one reason for their abysmal performances.

    And then today, the The Sun… anyone else thinking this is the most tone-deaf headline and lead story ever? Proof that with the spotlight now on them, some people in Murdoch world have lost the plot completely.

  2. I was stunned by Andy Hayman’s performance. Whoever said ‘dodgy geezer’ got it bang on – but as Craig says, why are they only copping that now. I can’t even think about Jean Charles de Menezes. It still upsets me terribly.
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    Meanwhile I read this tripe from “American officials”:
    “Al-Qaida could use hidden ‘belly bombs’ to attack passenger planes”
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/06/al-qaida-belly-bombs-planes-warns
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    There isn’t a shred of evidence given. Just “experts say”. Just think of what “Al Quaeda” would need to carry out such plots. Operating theatres and surgeons. Empty abdomens and breasts. And if airport scanners aren’t going to detect these “belly bombs”, what’s the point in sending out this “warning”? Are they demanding a thorough feel of abdomens, breasts and buttocks now?

  3. Very few know of the existence of the Committee on Standards in Public Life, chaired by a nonentity Sir Christopher Kelly and consisting on TEN members including two recently appointed, Margaret Beckett and Lord Alderdice. What do they do? What are they there for, especially with the stench coming from Parliament, Wapping and Scotland Yard? The CSPL was set up by Major btw.
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    The members – http://www.public-standards.gov.uk/About/Biographies.html
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    The Seven Principles of Public Life
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    The Committee believes that ‘Seven Principles of Public Life’ should apply to all in the public service. These are:
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    Selflessness
    Holders of public office should act solely in terms of the public interest. They should not do so in order to gain financial or other benefits for themselves, their family or their friends.
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    Integrity
    Holders of public office should not place themselves under any financial or other obligation to outside individuals or organisations that might seek to influence them in the performance of their official duties.
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    Objectivity
    In carrying out public business, including making public appointments, awarding contracts, or recommending individuals for rewards and benefits, holders of public office should make choices on merit.
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    Accountability
    Holders of public office are accountable for their decisions and actions to the public and must submit themselves to whatever scrutiny is appropriate to their office.
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    Openness
    Holders of public office should be as open as possible about all the decisions and actions that they take. They should give reasons for their decisions and restrict information only when the wider public interest clearly demands.
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    Honesty
    Holders of public office have a duty to declare any private interests relating to their public duties and to take steps to resolve any conflicts arising in a way that protects the public interest.
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    Leadership
    Holders of public office should promote and support these principles by leadership and example.

  4. Craig, Assuming that the kinds of hacking/surveillance in question are routinely carried out by GCHQ and other security branches, and assuming there are many intelligence ‘assets’ in NI on retainers, wouldn’t MI5 be well aware of all this going on over the years? Would they not liaise with Yates, Hyman, Clarke about the security compromises, especially the initial bugging of the Royal family let alone the hacking of Brown? Or were they running around chasing their tails and as seemingly useless as the three wise monkeys on parade yesterday? Isn’t this piece of the jigsaw being overlooked?

  5. A hilarious (if the plot was not so dreadful) piece by Simon Hoggart on Hayman’s appearance. I think Hayman was instructed to appear to act up as ‘the diamond geezer’ so as to deflect the questions. Surely he could not have risen through the ranks without some grey cells to show. I am being naive probably.
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    Andy Hayman stars at phone-hacking committee session
    The then top copper in charge of the first inquiry must be given his own sitcom
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/12/andy-hayman-phone-hacking-committee

  6. According to the BBC, Tom Crone, the News International legal manager, has left the company.

  7. That was a great clip. Davies and the Guardian have done some excellent work here. I can’t believe that Tony Yates looks so shocked and surprised at the very idea of him resigning while Lady Hayman clearly doth protest too much. I think it’s just a question of whether they were bribed, blackmailed or are just a bigger pair of tits than you’ll see on page 3 of the Sun.

  8. There is a distinctly second division feel about the membership of the Committee on Standards in Public Life reproduced here- no obvious heavy hitters or spooks. Some of the members terms have actually lapsed (Oliver Heald MP, for instance); either that, or that page of the their website hasn’t been updated for months.

    I think we can conclude from that that the Committee serves no real purpose beyond providing a bit of window dressing to the cesspool behind the curtain.

  9. “although even he feels he has to genuflect to “the terrorist threat.”
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    Exactly my feelings – and to think this ‘Del Boy’ was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire for his handling of 7/7. Read the transcript folks and understand the lies this man told. –
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    http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/08/se.01.html
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    Check-out the death of Jean Charles de Menezes and realise once again the more lies put forward for the lack of CCTV – Jean was shot seven times in the head from behind with no warning.
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    The de Menezes family received £100,000 in compensation.
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    “Perhaps [de Menezes'] life was worth less because he was poor.”
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    Hayman resigned from the Service on 4 December 2007, following allegations about expense claims and alleged improper conduct with a female member of the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) and a female Sergeant.

  10. One of Craig’s favourite Murdoch journalists will be doing his best to put a favourable spin on current events at the LSE tonight-

    http://www2.lse.ac.uk/publicEvents/events/2011/20110713t1830vOT.aspx

    The loaded phrasing of the event’s title ‘Is it time to get tough on the press?’ is duly noted.

    The panel, comprising Aaro, Guido, and the Mischon lawyer often chosen by the Beeb as a talking head at the moment, is joined by a rep from another toothless, window dressing Quango, Martin Moore, director of the Media Standards Trust.

    The whole event looks like an attempt to steer discussion away from corruption at the apex of the worlds of politics, media, and the securocracy, and onto a ‘muzzle the press’ agenda.

  11. ‘Next on the list is Lord Justice Leveson, 59. He has served as Senior Presiding Judge for not quite two years and the post is seen as a three-year sentence. So he keeps that job and picks up another one, taking over from the soon-to-retire Lord Justice Gage as chairman of the Criminal Justice Council.

    The council is an umbrella group, bringing together people from throughout the criminal justice system to advise ministers on criminal justice reforms. Sir Brian Leveson’s new appointment cements his role as a key member of the Lord Chief Justice’s Judicial Executive Board.’ D Telegraph 2008

    See if you can find anything more up to date about this Criminal Justice Council. This is from 2005 http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2005-10-12d.16468.h
    Yet another long list of names obviously out of date now.
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    Lord Justice Leveson is also a member of the Sentencing Council. Are there not many of these extra-governmental set ups? {http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.gov.uk/about/council-members.htm}

  12. “Exactly my feelings – and to think this ‘Del Boy’ was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire for his handling of 7/7.”
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    Mr Murray was referring to Nick Davies, not Andy Hayman.
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    “I can’t believe that Tony Yates”
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    Is his name Tony Yates or John Yates? Did I just make up the Tony? Where did the Tony come from?

  13. deepgreenpuddock

    13 Jul, 2011 - 1:49 pm

    There is a child like quality to this blog and some of the comments.The child I am thinking about is the one who mentions the emperor’s stark staring nudity out loud.

    It is both heartening that there people with the wits to see through the charade but depressing to think of the mountainous scale of the degradation of public life and process.

    I wonder what some MP’s are really thinking. Many must be aware of the absurdity of the positions they are called upon to uphold.

    Sitting in a bar in Ohio last night , chatting, I was struck by how alert most of the US population is to the murdoch situation in the UK, and its meaning, and the the more or less default skepticism over matters related to the 9/11 enquiry.

    However there is a peculiar incapacity of the enlightened population to act. No one really knows quite how to say the obvious out loud in a way that is not overwhelmed by the avalanche of condemnation that usually follows some independent thinking. Thinking and independence qualities of mind have been marginalized but cannot be extinguished.

    We really are down the rabbit-hole and fixated on the looking glass.

  14. angrysoba
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    You may have been thinking about…John Yates who was in charge of the cash for honours investigation into Tony Blair, he could find no evidence to prosecute Tony Blair.

  15. Scouse Billy

    13 Jul, 2011 - 2:07 pm

  16. News Corporation has withdrawn its bid for BSkyB.

  17. I’m sure the argument that “We couldn’t spare the resources to investigate this crime because TERRORISM!!!” went down really well with everybody nicked for shoplifting or benefit fraud around that time…

  18. Well that’s the end of that then:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14142307

  19. “he could find no evidence to prosecute Tony Blair.”
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    Thats because there was no evidence, not a shred of evidence, not a shred!!!. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6382&st=0

  20. Angrysober, I was thinking of Peter Clarke the last of the ‘three wise monkeys’ or should I say those that willfully turn a blind eye to the immorality of an act in which they are involved i.e the ‘war of terror’ that resulted in a war with Iraq and Afghanistan based on fraud which murdered, mutilated and traumatized over 300,000 children.
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    “shallow-minded persons are the most talkative and dangerous.”
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    “Clarke retired as Assistant Commissioner Specialist Operations in February 2008, having delayed his retirement at the request of the then Commissioner, Sir Ian Blair, following the resignation of Andy Hayman.[7] Clarke has been vocal in his retirement in campaigning for tougher legislation on terrorism including extended detention before charge for terrorist suspects.”

  21. Paul Johnston

    13 Jul, 2011 - 2:55 pm

    Apologies for being being way off topic but you are interested in Iran you should read the following:

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/07/how-digital-detectives-deciphered-stuxnet/all/1

    Mark June 24, 2012 in your diaries folks!

  22. Andy Hayman’s book ‘The Terrorist Hunters’ was serialised by Murdoch’s ‘The Times’ from 23 to 30 June 2009, and was released on 2nd July 2009 – right in the middle of the re-trial of eight men accused in the ‘Transatlantic Airline Liquid Explosive’ alleged plot.

    The book contained ‘passages’ of information considered prejudicial to the case.

    See: http://tinyurl.com/62lfhkx

    Interesting fact #68:
    The announcement of the initial arrest of Clive Goodman & Glen Mulcairne of the NOTW on Thursday 10 August 2006, was on the very day that the transatlantic liquid explosives ‘plot’ was aired, as a result of the Bank of England publishing the names of “19 people whose assets it was freezing under UN sanctions rules”.

  23. “Murdoch Shaped British politics for 40 Years”:
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    ‘The Real News’ interviews Leo Panitch, Canada Research Chair in Comparative Political Economy and Distinguished Research Professor of Political Science at York University in Toronto.
    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7025
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    “US now more unpopular in the Arab world than under Bush”:
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    {http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/13/arabs/index.html} Glenn Greenwald

  24. Andy Hayman – the sewage principle – the solid bits float to the top.
    http://postmanpatel.blogspot.com/2006/10/andy-hayman-sewage-principle-solid-bits.html

  25. @Guest …….he could find no evidence to prosecute Tony Blair.” ….Thats because there was no evidence, not a shred of evidence, not a shred!!!. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6382&st=0
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    I know you were being ironic but that link was all about Bliar’s financial chichanery. His war crimes for which he should be standing in front of Judges at the ICC in the Hague were not mentioned.

  26. Barry,
    I agree with you completely and that’s why I think it’s a massive operation by the intelligence services for the government within the government to gain and control the very valuable asset of BSkyB

  27. Thanks Paul the article provided missing information for me on the frequency converter data commands from the PLC controllers.
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    Laughably in the final analysis, I have estimated the code took over two years to write and Israel invested around a million dollars in an attack that was derailed by a single rebooting PC.
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    Siemens Simatic WinCC SCADA systems are now protected against code injection. The attack had a subtle process in that centrifuges were not destroyed either by over-speed or erratic start/stop conditions; the centrifuge speed was varied over a two week period which resulted in a polluted grade of enriched uranium poisoned by too much of the wrong isotope.
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    Mossad frustrated at the intervention murdered nuclear scientist Majid Shahriari and seriously wounded Fereydoun Abbasi PhD who taught my friends son at uni. I ask Sir Robert John Sawers, is this what you mean by saying, “diplomacy alone would not be enough to disrupt Iran’s nuclear program.”
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    Murdering people only sows seeds of revenge and you know it.

  28. Clare Algar Executive Director of Reprieve
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    Will the NOTW Inquiry, Like Torture, be Quietly Buried? Reprieve Director on hacking and Torture
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/clare-algar/will-the-now-inquiry-like_b_895488.html

  29. Samarkandian Boy

    13 Jul, 2011 - 6:39 pm

    I am sitting in America and following the events in UK with lots of fun. This Cameron and Ed both look very foolish to me. Red-head is still at large. Fox is giving zilch news on the matter. CNN has some coverage … AJE is the best of all.

    Craig, keep up the good work.

  30. There has been a lot of talk about surprise and shock in the last few weeks.
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    Personally the discovery that the NoW was hacking everybody’s phone, that they were in bed with Tory and Labour and that the police were massively corrupt did not surprise me, nor the seeming probability that all the tabloid press were up to the same stuff.
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    But what has surprised me is to see Cameron’s ‘high-speed- catchup as a scourge of News International, and Gordon Brown’s assertion in the House of Commonsthat Murdoch is in bed with the criminal underworld.
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    Ole

  31. Ch4 reporter say that NI are able to come back with a bid after six months. ie after an inquiry has happened and absorbed all the flak.
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    Read this in a waiting area today on salaries paid by the BBC who have gone overboard on the NI scandals.
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    ‘Stars in the millionaire bracket, although not identified by the BBC, are thought to include Graham Norton, Gary Lineker, Chris Evans and Anne Robinson. The figures are also thought to include four months of Jonathan Ross’s deal before he left the organisation.
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    There were 33 earning between £250,000 and £500,000, thought to include Matt Smith, Sophie Raworth, Huw Edwards and Sue Barker. The six or so in the £500,000 to £749,000 bracket are believed to include Fiona Bruce, Andrew Marr and Alan Shearer.
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    Top cash: Graham Norton, left, and Gary Lineker are thought to be paid over £1m (photos)
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    The four paid between £750,000 and £999,000 are thought to include Jeremy Paxman and David Dimbleby.’
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2014105/Public-losing-affection-BBC-Staff-numbers-pay-UP-Auntie-cuts-costs.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2014105/Public-losing-affection-BBC-Staff-numbers-pay-UP-Auntie-cuts-costs.html#ixzz1S0hniQ2Y

    PS Thompson the DG is said to have dropped from over £800,000 to over £600,000
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2014105/Public-losing-affection-BBC-Staff-numbers-pay-UP-Auntie-cuts-costs.html

  32. Thanks Mary for the ‘heads up’ – Perhaps we should remind ourselves what the Prime Minister said to Parliament last year. Here I believe are the main points:
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    With permission, Mr Speaker, I would like to make a Statement on our intelligence services and allegations made about the treatment of detainees.
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    1. The reputation of our security services has been overshadowed by allegations about their involvement in the treatment of detainees held by other countries.
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    2. Detainees allege they were mistreated by those countries.
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    3. UK’s involvement in the rendition of detainees in the aftermath of 9/11.
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    4. Our reputation as a country that believes in human rights, justice, fairness and the rule of law{??} – indeed for much of what the Services exist to protect – risks being tarnished.
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    5. The ability of our [Secret]Services to protect us{de Menezes?} and questioning the rules under which they operate.
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    6. Questions over the degree to which British [MI6]officers were working with foreign security services who were treating detainees in ways they should not have done.
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    7. Mr. Speaker, myself and the Deputy Prime Minister are determined to get to the bottom of what happened{by a white-wash}.
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    8. The intelligence services also keen publicly to establish their principles and integrity{but speak in secret}.
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    9. We are committed to mediation with those who have brought civil claims about their detention in Guantanamo. And wherever appropriate, we will offer compensation. {Proposed ‘get out’ clause}
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    10. It [the Inquiry]will look at whether Britain was implicated in the improper treatment of detainees held by other countries that may have occurred in the aftermath of 9/11.{ Szymany Airport in Poland, Camp Eagle in Bosnia and Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo to name a few ‘black’ sites}.
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    11. So the inquiry will need to look at our security departments and intelligence services.{in secret}
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    12. Mr. Speaker, I have asked the Rt. Hon. Sir Peter Gibson, former senior Court of Appeal judge and currently the statutory Commissioner for the Intelligence Services, to lead the inquiry.{Intelligence Services Commissioner!!!}.
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    13. This inquiry can not and will not be costly{!!} – it is not possible to have a full public inquiry into something that is meant to be secret. So any intelligence material provided to the Inquiry panel will not be made public and nor will intelligence officers be asked to give evidence in public.
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    We need to restore Britain’s moral leadership in the world {by a whitewash?}.
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    Amnesty International said the government appeared to have “squandered the opportunity to address a mounting pile of allegations of involvement of its agents and policymakers in the torture and ill-treatment of detainees” in a way that ensures public confidence.
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    {..} = my own words.

  33. Scouse Billy
    Thanks for that link. I had never heard of Tony Farrell but I’ll be watching out for him.

  34. deepgreenpuddock and others from over the pond, please do relate these events here to Murdochs other global concerns, why should an approved method and core function of Murdochs empire, i.e. control over private comms of powerfull/popular people, not to his other commercial aquisations and interests?

    Thanks for the video with wrigglin’ yates and Hayman worms, investigate them!
    Hands up in the Metropolitan police force who has a swiss bank account!

    Those who hack to inform the public of important events that do concern us as taxpayers, are in my eyes different to anyone who hacks,pings, taps for sheer commercial gain, who has no compulsion in using or manipulating comms from the grieving, without scrupel or feelings.

    I think hardnosed reporting has had its time and the BBC should be at the forefront of change, pigs might fly. Showing us propaganda pictures of dead soldiers being paraded past weeping relatives, when they might have known that relatives phones were hacked? Why did the BBC not investigate Yates ridiculous 2 day investigation finding nothing? was there no concerns over Browns sudden announcement over his sons tragic affliction? the way the story came out, rushed? what did the BBC know?

    Does anybody know how NI aquired Star TV, a virtual monopoly over the Far East, and China especially?

    The Home Secretary T. May has sofar failed to encourage that the due course of law is being followed and I can’t hear the Bar squeaking or any clever noises being expelled from usually bellicose and venerable robbed knowitalls, maybe a collective groin injury.

    Ms Akers team should be quadrupled as this issue goes to the heart of our democratic lawfull conduct, trust in the police, and how we respond to organised crime methods aimed at persons of state. If phones were not just hacked but tapped and even burglaries instigated to get information on people, then this rott has to be investigated, and pronto.

  35. It’s logical to conclude that if Jon Rees had really been involved in hacking, then Sir Ian Blair being in charge of CIB3 and John Yates working in the secret unit would have known about the hacking as there’s evidence that an informer working on behalf of CIB3 had become Ree’s trusted confidant.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/met-chiefs-secret-squad-used-illegal-informant-847471.html 15 June 2008

    ‘The Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC) and the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) are investigating the latest case. It centres on an informant active from 1998 to 2007 who used the pseudonym “Joe Poulton”. He is said to be a retired Scotland Yard detective recruited by the Complaints Investigation Branch (CIB3), a secret unit investigating one of the Met’s most notorious unsolved cases – the 1987 axe murder of Daniel Morgan, a private detective, in south London. Detectives now admit that Morgan was about to “blow the whistle” on police involvement in drug trafficking.

    CIB3 bugged the offices of the prime suspect in the murder conspiracy, another private detective, who cannot be named for legal reasons. There was insufficient evidence to prosecute him for murder but the man was jailed in 2000 for unrelated offences of conspiring to plant drugs on a client’s wife.

    Poulton became his trusted confidant, making prison visits and working on an unsuccessful appeal. The informant was also introduced to another inmate appealing his 2001 conviction for a major VAT fraud. Poulton worked on that case, too, which the Court of Appeal also rejected.’

    The case against Rees collapsed this year. Supergrass deals offered reductions in sentences in return for evidence and the offer of rewards. ‘Underworld figures and their associates had volunteered to give evidence after a £50,000 reward was offered. One had a lengthy prison term reduced after agreeing to be a prosecution witness.’ The Independent 11 March 2011

    The other person who Poulton allegedly had involvement with was Barry Beardall, who I understand, worked with the Sunday Times for 5 years and who I believe knows some things that are highly sensitive.

    Beardall was convicted of conspiracy to contravene Section 170(2) of the Customs and Excise Management Act 1979 in 2001. Beardall claimed entrapment in his trial. During both his trial and appeal there were serious failures by the prosecution to make disclosure particularly in relation to the principal of the fraud, who was described in the Costello Affidavit as working for the National Investigation Service of Customs & Excise. During Beardall’s appeal the investigation into the Affidavit by the Metropolitan Police was flawed. Moreover, the investigation into the Affidavit on behalf of Beardall’s defence team was allegedly conducted by an informant using the pseudonym “Joe Poulton”, who is said to be a retired Scotland Yard detective recruited by the Complaints Investigation Branch (CIB3).

    Beardall has suffered repeated threats and intimidation, burglaries and even theft of his car during which pertinent documents from unused trial evidence and documents found subsequent to his appeal were removed.

  36. “A number of key members of the family that controlled the Wall Street Journal say they would not have agreed to sell the prestigious daily to Rupert Murdoch if they had been aware of News International’s conduct in the phone-hacking scandal at the time of the deal.”
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/13/wall-st-journal-murdoch-bancroft

  37. What weasel words from the Bancroft family. They took the money didn’t they. Perhaps they could raise the purchase price and bail Rupe out. He needs all he can get at the moment with his global empire collapsing around him.
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    ‘Moreover, 14 months after the deal closed, in early 2009, News Corp had to write down the value of its $5.6bn purchase by $2.8bn.’
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    I have been looking Leveson up. He is on the Sentencing Council Board, yet another outfit I have never heard of. Amongst his fellow Board members, is Tim Goodwin QPM, of ACPO and Dep Commissioner Met Police !!! Lord Judge, Judge Globe, Keir Starmer DPP and other names worthy of Gilbert and Sullivan. All good mates I guess. Globe is another judge from Liverpool like Leveson.
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    http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.gov.uk/about/council-members.htm
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    My object all sublime
    I shall achieve in time —
    To let the punishment fit the crime —
    The punishment fit the crime;
    And make each prisoner pent
    Unwillingly represent
    A source of innocent merriment!
    Of innocent merriment!

  38. Dreoilin,

    Tony Farrell interviewed here – Part 1 of 3:

    http://www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=65&part=1

  39. Whether they openly admit it or not, I feel that the numbers of people that don’t believe the 7/7 narrative is slowly reaching a critical mass. Rocky times ahead. Serves the stupid morons right for conducting such a woeful operation. Who exactly were these clowns? Where did these buffoons come from? Who the hell hired them? How much taxpayer money do these incompetent freaks actually get? It surely has to go down as one of the biggest bodge jobs in history. God help us! And them…

  40. Who will be the first to write a book entitled ‘The Rise and Fall of the Murdoch Empire’?
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    It is strange though that none of the other media groups are being mentioned for doing the same thing which has been going on for years.
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    For instance this is a report by the Informaton Commissioner on theft and loss of personal information and data etc in 2008.
    http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/pressreleases/2008/criminal_justice_and_immigration_bill_clause76ammendment210408.pdf

    This are extracts from a 2006 report by the BBC {http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6176939.stm}
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    ‘Illegal snooping’ papers named
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    The News of the World’s Royal editor was taken to court
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    A government watchdog has named the 31 publications which dealt with a firm of private investigators involved in the illegal trade of personal information.
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    Altogether, some 305 unnamed journalists were identified as recipients of a range of data supplied by the Hampshire-based private investigators. Four people linked to the firm were convicted of offences, but no journalists were prosecuted.
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    The naming of the publications comes after a Freedom of Information Act request.
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    Information Requests
    Daily Mail: 952
    Sunday People: 802
    Daily Mirror 681
    Mail on Sunday: 266
    News of the World: 182
    Sunday Mirror: 149
    Best magazine: 134
    Evening Standard: 130
    Observer: 103
    Daily Sport: 62
    Sunday Times: 52
    Daily Express: 43
    Sunday Express: 29
    The Sun: 24
    Closer magazine: 22
    Sunday Sport: 15
    Source: Information commissioner

  41. Exactly so! That is their difficulty.
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    ‘The Commons media committee also wants to question News Corporation’s Rupert and James Murdoch but cannot force them to appear as they are not UK citizens.’
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    Phone hacking: MPs ‘could summon Rebekah Brooks’
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    The Commons Culture Committee may not be able to make James and Rupert Murdoch appear before it,
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    MPs are to meet later to decide whether to summon News International chief executive Rebekah Brooks to answer questions on the phone-hacking scandal.
    /….http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14148658

  42. Jonangus Mackay

    14 Jul, 2011 - 10:23 am

    The Corleones of News Corpse:
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    Still useful backgrounder from Vanity Fair’s Michael Wolf, author of 2008 biography ‘The Man Who Owns the News — Inside the Secret World of Rupert Murdoch’:
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    http://bit.ly/rmParT
    ..

  43. So many very strange things have been going on (on a global scale) much more so over the last thirty odd years, then ever before, so many questions, but the answers are so few.

  44. Jonangus Mackay

    14 Jul, 2011 - 10:58 am

    Some people simply have no respect for others’ privacy. Just came across a YouTube comment in which the user fails to give his own name, yet goes on to advertise to all & sundry the address of one Mrs R Brooks:
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    1 Rickard Cottages, Fairgreen Cottages, Churchill, Oxfordshire OX7 6RA
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    He then, without any apparent thought as to the possible consequences, asks if anyone might happen to have her ‘Chelsea Harbour’ address!
    .
    This is just the kind of behaviour that can cause victims to end up getting vast quantities of junk mail. As I say: some people.
    ..

  45. Dreoilin, thanks for the heads up the other day won’t take the bait again, finally checked out the link, thought it was tabboo not exhausted.
    Scouse Billy, Tony Farrell comes over as a very genuine guy nice to see some integrity out there, no place for him in the machine thats a natural home for Yates and Hayman.

  46. same old…same old…. tesco, rothschild, private equity, even the retired head of the civil service and that character Leighton who with Crozier, now running ITV, set about the dismantling of the Royal Mail and its imminent full privitisation.
    .
    http://corporate.sky.com/about_sky/our_board_and_management/board.htm
    .
    I did not know that James Murdoch is the chairman.
    .
    Here are some of the key facts and figures about our business at a glance. All operating statistics are accurate as of 31 March 2011.
    .
    Sky.com
    Total customers 10,147,000
    Sky + HD customers 3,686,000
    Multiroom customers 2,237,000
    Sky Broadband customers 3,161,000
    Sky Talk customers 2,916,000
    Adjusted revenue 1 £5,912 million*
    Investment in programming £1,902 million*
    Adjusted operating profit 1 £855 million*
    Number of employees 16,500

  47. Q. If NewsCorp only have a minority stake of 39% in BSkyB (known as Sky) why is Murdoch running it and why it is considered to be a NI subsidiary.
    .
    Similarly, Wikipedia say on the Sky News page:
    ‘Although owned by British Sky Broadcasting, Sky News is partially-owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation, which holds a minority stake in BSkyB.’
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_News
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    Difficulty in fathoming this out.

  48. It gets funnier by the minute. Murdoch has hired Edelman for PR.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/14/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch
    .
    Guess who’s on the job?
    ‘The Edelman team will be run by Alex Bigg, its managing director for corporate affairs, and James Lundie, its managing director of public affairs. Lundie is the long-term partner of David Laws, the former chief secretary to the treasury.’
    .
    You remember the reason for Laws’ resignation I expect.

  49. Jonangus Mackay

    14 Jul, 2011 - 2:07 pm

    Butterfly-ridden Margaret Thatcher:
    .
    Though her fans in particular have forgotten, that’s the way she was in truth pre-make-over. What new prime minister wouldn’t be? I remember. I had her sitting in my office for 20 mins on her own, plastic cup in hand, the day before she was elected party leader. 
    .
    Margaret Thatcher was the one who established the pattern of fear-fuelled obscene pay-offs that for has for decades have warped & corrupted British governance — to the point, we now see, of  organised criminality.
    .
    Thatcher was the first to permit Murdoch, contrary to all good sense, obviously dangerous media power in order to bolster her own. This needs emphasizing: without her assistance the News Corp Corleone would not be where he is today.
    .
    Exposure of the consequent ever-extending sewer of bribes, threats & corruption is long overdue. As Britain’s institutional mudslide widens over coming months,  it will also drag away much of the Thatcher myth — & its tawdry Blatcherite legacy.
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    Way things stand right now, though, this fat, fawning obituary will appear in re-hashed form in the media mobster’s forthcoming Sun on Sunday. Big-time: he owes her. 
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    http://tinyurl.com/6yj2wsh
    ::

  50. Andy Hayman – Sky News 12:42
    .
    “They set out the questions they intent to ask you but they never stick to the script. All the questions that I was given to prepare for they never asked, all bar one. If you look at the calibre of the committee it is very interesting. There are three very experienced parliamentarians on that committee, but the other seven have only just recently gone into parliament in 2010 …
    .
    I have been through the mill at the Old Bailey and other court hearings. The reason for going there is to do your best and help the committee. When you are derailed by basically very childish playground antics, that can’t be for the best outcome for the report they intend to write. Can we stop all this show-boating and cat-calling that goes on in the margins?”
    .
    Apparently he is ‘Mr Strongman’ on Twitter.
    .
    Mr Hayman must realise that inquiries that are prepared and resort to a script only serve to hinder the truth from the British public. I applaud the ‘off script’ questioning esp. in light of past expense claims whether you have accepted money for information.
    .
    In truth you have a lot to answer for Mr Hayman and which I define as derelict of duty. Vis a vis we remember another investigation that cost £4 million of public money; one in which you illegally tapped a colleagues phone and caused “considerable damage” to relations between the force and its black officers, according to Sir Ian Blair.
    .
    We remember the anti-terror raid at Forest Gate, east London involving around 250 police officers which ended with an innocent man shot in the shoulder who said, “I thought I was going to be killed by robbers targeting my home. Both men involved were later freed without charge.
    .
    We remember the IPCC document that said you Mr Hayman misled senior officers by failing to tell them that a Brazilian electrician was not a wanted suicide bomber. That poor man ended up murdered in front of train commuters.
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    I say to you Mr Hayman forget the bluster and keep your big mouth shut.

  51. ‘It is strange though that none of the other media groups are being mentioned for doing the same thing which has been going on for years.’

    This is pretty much the point Paul Staines made at the LSE discussion on phone hacking last night; he also mentioned that some (non News Int) groups actually arranged short training courses in hacking for those of their employees unfamliar with the practice. Hacking has thus become as common in the media as the type of blagging that led to the disclosure of Fraser Brown’s cystic fibrosis in the Sunday Times.

    The star of the show at the LSE event last night was actually the lawyer Charlotte Harris, who acted for both Gordon Taylor & Max Clifford in their actions against News Int. At one point she said she was anonymously warned off pressing her case too vigourously, as to do so would mean ‘career suicide’ for her.

  52. Oops. Wrong Thatcher.
    Thatcher to be sent to psych facility
    http://www.merrittnews.net/article/20110713/MERRITT0101/110719989/-1/MERRITT01/thatcher-to-be-sent-to-psych-facility
    .
    When you google thatcher health up comes thatcher…. health reforms, ditto policy, ditto care, ditto service

  53. Well said Mark. I saw him on Sky too. He has a nice tan. Perhaps he has been on the sub deck of the Murdoch yacht. RIP Jean Charles. A young life blown away by Israeli trained armed thugs. (The Israeli training was acknowledged at the inquest which I followed daily on the internet)
    .
    Also well said Old Mark. Was Aaronovitch there? He was on the Boulton programme on Sky at 1pm talking about the need for ethics in the press. He said that he has not seen anything dodgy in his six years at the Times.YCNMIU You could not make it up.
    .
    Q. Are journalists called hacks because that is what they, or some of them, do?

  54. Roderick Russell

    14 Jul, 2011 - 5:28 pm

    RUPERT MURDOCH, THE GUARDIAN & HYPOCRISY

    One should not forget that many of those same politicians who today are going at Rupert Murdoch like sharks at a feeding frenzy were only a week ago trying to crawl up his b***side. Horrible though the illegal phone tapping and interference certainly is, there are even worse issues – that go to press freedom and indeed democracy itself – that the Guardian and our politicians have remained silent about for years.
    #
    In British Journalism Review Vol. 11, No. 2, 2000, Mr. David Leigh of the Guardian wrote – “journalists are being manipulated by the secret intelligence agencies, and I think we ought to try and put a stop to it.” Indeed it would seem that it’s so easy to censor our media that even the private sector can do it for their paying clients. Just sticking with The Guardian: In 2002, they reported on the publicist Max Clifford, under the headline: “Journalism is bloody horrible”, quoting him as saying — “I censor things as well”… “For every story I break, I stop a dozen” … “I’m good at covering up anything I don’t want people to know”.
    #
    It seems to me that the MI5 / MI6 intelligence agencies like to foster a touch of corruption in journalists, police, and politicians since they can then be blackmailed and controlled; so what agenda do these secret agencies really have in pushing this horrible story today??
    #
    The fact is that the UK media is heavily censored, not so much by the government as by the secret security and intelligence agencies who are a law unto themselves.
    #
    Nor is that other Westminster-model Monarchy, Canada, any better off – Just this month on page 4 of its most recent edition, Lobster Magazine published a story by a former senior Canadian intelligence operative whose headline says it all — **CSIS and the CANADIAN STASI** .

  55. Jonangus Mackay

    14 Jul, 2011 - 6:29 pm

    Word on the digital street:
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    MURDOCHALYPSE
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    http://tinyurl.com/69rjhbg
    ::

  56. “OUTFOXED : Rupert Murdoch’s War on Journalism”
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428#

  57. Jonangus Mackay

    14 Jul, 2011 - 9:53 pm

    More than 2 or 3 big laughs herein:
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    http://ind.pn/ns1cxh

  58. Roderick,
    It seems to me that the MI5 / MI6 intelligence agencies like to foster a touch of corruption in journalists, police, and politicians since they can then be blackmailed and controlled; so what agenda do these secret agencies really have in pushing this horrible story today??

    To get hold of BSkyB and stuff it with their master’s nominee shareholders.

  59. Scouse Billy and Johnm,
    .
    Thanks both. (I seem to have missed out on this thread recently.)
    I haven’t read half as much about 7/7 as I have about 9/11, most likely because I got involved in arguments on the 9/11 thread here, way back. 7/7 something I need to read/view more about.

  60. Dreoilin,

    Personally I recommend the video, 7/7 Seeds of Deconstruction as as the most thorough analysis available to the public:

    http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/7-7-seeds-of-deconstruction-full-version/iSTK4AzE1R4xavy3vnEsdQ

  61. Will do!

  62. Good recommendation and of course Bridget and Ants 7th July website Scouse Billy.
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    http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/
    .
    My father worked as an explosive expert for the MOD. A number of sources said the explosives used were military type high grade explosive not peroxide based home explosives made by amateurs. Also the number of ‘controlled explosions’ carried out would have prevented investigation and forensic analysis at the sites while also masking and confusing the precise locations.

  63. ‘Was Aaronovitch there? He was on the Boulton programme on Sky at 1pm talking about the need for ethics in the press.’

    Yes Mary, he was, coming out with the same stuff on ethics as he did on Sky, and also the rough draft of the article he had in the Times yesterday. Seeing him sat next to Paul Staines was an odd experience; there’s quite a resemblance, which goes beyond their both have considerable expense account paunches. Staines could actually have passed for his nephew.

    Aaro may no longer spout Dave Spartish politics, but,at least on Wednesday, he preserved the dress code of a 70s student radical, in scuffed trainers, blue jeans, & rumpled linen jacket!

  64. More on Tony Farrell here:
    http://preview.tinyurl.com/6bn2jdv

  65. Good on you, Craig, for refusing to buy the lies. You are quite correct.

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