Circuses, but Less Bread

by craig on July 27, 2012 10:57 am in Uncategorized

The London Olympics are already achieving the number one aim of the politicians who brought them here, which is making our politicians feel very important indeed.

The media is quite frenetic in its efforts to make us all believe we should be terrifically proud of the fact we are hosting the Olympics, as though there were something unique in this achievement. If we can’t competently do something that Greece, Spain and China have done in recent years, that would be remarkable. Of course the Games will be on the whole well delivered, sufficient for the media and politicians to declare it an ecstatic success. Some of the sporting moments will be sublime, as ever.

But did it have to be in London? We won’t know the total cost of the Games for months, but it will cost the taxpayer at least £9 billion and I suspect a lot more. I also suspect the GDP figures will, in the event, show that the massive net fall in visitor numbers has hurt the already shrinking economy further.

But to take the most optimistic figure, holding the Olympics in London has cost every person in the country an average of £150 per head in extra taxes. That is £600 for a family of four. Actually it is in the end going to be well over £2,000, as of course the money has been borrowed on the never never, and taxpayers are going to be paying it off their whole lives, along with the sum ten times higher they are already paying direct into the pockets of the bankers through their taxes.

The very rich, of course, don’t pay much tax, so they are not worried.

But to take just the figure of £600 extra taxes for a family of four, the lowest possible amount, and not including the interest. Is having the Olympics here really worth paying out £600 for? If Tony Blair had approached the head of the family and said “We are going to have the Olympics in London, but it’s going to cost you £600, would the answer have been from most ordinary people: “Yes, great idea, this is that important to us”?

People are not disconcerted because they don’t see that they have to pay. There is no special Olympics tax, and they pay their taxes in a variety of ways, and individuals are not the sole source of taxation. But this is nonetheless real money taken from the people in pursuit of the hubris of politicians.

I love sport. I hate the corruption of the International Olympic Committee, Fifa and the rest; I hate the vicious corporatism and militarisation of our capital and absurd elitism of the transport lanes; the sport itself I love. But with the economy contracting, and the NHS being farmed out for profit, is it really worth £600 for a family – and many families are really struggling in a heartbreaking way – is it worth the money to have the Olympics here rather than in Paris?

Of course it isn’t. I think many of us will feel an extra pleasure watching the Opening ceremony because it is British. Patriotic pride will surge. It is not wrong to enjoy the spectacle tonight on TV. The corporate well connected and ruling classes will enjoy it in the stadium.

But after you have watched it on TV, ask yourself this question. How much more did you enjoy it than enjoy watching the Beijing ceremony, and was that margin of extra enjoyment something that everybody in the room would have paid out £150 for?

Because they just did.

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  1. You are much more patient than me… I am pissed off at it all..

    London Underground is not allowed to give out Oyster Card Holders with a MasterCard Logo on!!! The corporatisation of the games has gone too far and as usual the poor taxpayer pays…

  2. I wonder if any journalist or amateur sleuth has looked at (estimated) flows of money within the Olympic project? Not just the cost of putting it on, but who are the net gainers? I suspect, though I’ve no firm basis for it, that this is a cynical exercise of transferring more public wealth into private hands, either as tax breaks or as subsidised advertising campaigns.
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    That said, it is reassuring that tax-dodging is a hot enough potato that big corps are even turning down schemes that are govt sanctioned. Have a look at this, and sign if you haven’t already: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/olympic-tax-dodging

  3. Oh yes, and of course in privatised security that won’t be delivered on time or to required quality. Mitt Romney was right about something after all, and I didn’t think I’d ever say that!

  4. Excellent article Craig, which just happen to echo my own thoughts on the matter ;)

  5. Iraq War
    Afghanistan
    Libya
    Royal Wedding
    The Jubilee
    Olympic Games…
    .
    I wish I could have my money back for all of them.

  6. If the games had really been full of British flavour and colour then we wouldn’t be having McDonalds with Coke shoved down our throats whilst being forced to wear the apparel of someone else’s choice.You can attend the games, BUT you have to wear, eat and drink what we tell you to otherwise your expensive ticket is forfeit.
    It can’t be easy to say you are proud to be British either, when anyone that can run fast from any country qualifies for full British Citizenship.You don’t even have to speak the language.
    They talk about fair trade and even playing fields, when what they really mean are fixed games , closed shops and competition kept at a distance.Money destroys everything and these Olympics are proof of that.
    I would love to know exactly what these benevolent Sponsors contributed, how much tax they have avoided, and if there is any Net gain for the Exchequer.
    One thing’s for sure,Pierre de Coubertin will be squirming in his grave.

  7. Watching channel4 news last night, a person with common sense managed to slip onto the program and informed john snow that the Olympic flame is Hitler Germany all over again, and he does see pride in a damn torch.

    Jon snow quickly shoot him down saying that the Olympic flame has nothing todo with Hitler…
    Thank god the person with common sense was able to shoot him down and inform him of simple facts on live TV, that this TV news anchor was so uninformed is shocking.
    Wonder if we can get a lunch date with a few of these people and inform them how the world really works outside of there PR teleprompter propaganda.

  8. The Olympics went to London because London is where the politicians do business. It is where the 1948 Olympics were held too. Once a city has hosted the Olympic Games that should be its last time for 1000 years. There are lots of cities would like to host the Olympic Games and they should be given a chance.

  9. And the 1908 Olympics too, John!

    I wholly agree with Craig, who has summed up my attitude to the whole thing perfectly.

  10. bang on Craig I have to say its not enthusing Scotland for an alternative critical view go to Russia Today

  11. “Imagine there’s no countries…”

    Bored to tears with this NWO reptilian miltary-corporate circle jerk.

    Can we have a competition where medals are awarded for the fastest and best building of hospitals and schools etc instead please?

  12. Event Direct Cost to UK Government

    Iraq War ) Over £20B combined, as of
    Afghanistan ) June 2010.
    .
    Libya £1-1.75B
    .
    Royal Wedding £22M plus about the same again for security
    .
    The Jubilee About £3M. The £10.5m cost of the River Pageant was paid for
    by individual donations and corporate sponsorships,
    and a “substantial” surplus was given to charity.
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    Olympic Games… Over £12B, maybe as high as £24B

    I have made no attempt to account for loss of productivity through Bank Holidays, or watching the Olympics. Holidays may cost the nation something, but it will be a sad day when we consider them unaffordable.

    You will notice that the Olympics are costing about as much as Iraq and Afghanistan combined up to 2010 – although the bill for Afghanistan continues to mount. Libya was about one-tenth as expensive.

    The Royal Wedding cost about one-thousandth as much as the Olympics or the wars, and the Jubilee much less still.

  13. A slightly different kind of accounting shows that the Iraq war costs the lives of about 1.5 million Iraqis, and the Afghan war those of tens of thousands (at least) of Afghans. British forces lost a handful of soldiers.

    The Olympics, the Royal Wedding, and the Jubilee do not seem to have resulted in any deaths as far as I know.

    Does that matter?

  14. It is strange that sometimes the politicos and their fawning roadies start blabbing without any sense of irony.
    ,
    As in the case of CNN during the GW Bu$h elections running a banner: “the best government money can buy”. This morning Cameron goes on about putting “Blair”, or “BP” on the show!
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    In other words a lying cheating warmonger , and or a veracious petro-giant with a murky, and bloody track record, are sort of the selling points of the ol impics, says it all, does it not?.
    ,
    The disconnect of the power matrix from reality is more and more apparent as the days go by. The fact that there is a need to promote ol impics (no trade mark violations) on the soaps, is telling of the enthusiasm of the host nation!!
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    Further proof if needed is the distribution of the “free” tickets, that is an attempt in filling up the various venues to compensate for the lack of the demand for the tickets that were offered on sale.
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    Finally, given that we are being told to wait for the greatest show on the opening, missing in the furore is the simple fact: anyone needing to watch cabaret dancers and variety show singers etc, need not have chosen to come to the ol impics, across the water in Paris they could have found more of the same at cheaper prices and less hassle, as well as a better food variety., so nil point there too!
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    Hence the £600 quid basically has been yet another burden put on the ever more regulated working man to pay for the high life style of the masters of the games.

  15. There will of course be the usual ‘foiled plot’ relating to the London Olympics. This contrivance I believe will again as in the case of the Bulgaria bombing be a lurid story of an attack by operatives associated to Hezbollah – just another poke to get the EU to add the Hezbollah organisation to its list of terrorist organisations.
    .
    Meanwhile while we are distracted by the union of five continents, chemical weapons appear in Syria as another final reckless and atrocious attempt at winning a propaganda war.

  16. Jives: Enough of the poikilothermicist epithets already. If you prick me do I not take a large lump out of you, leaving a cocktail of really nasty bacteria to finish you off?
    .
    Craig: I had really hoped you would not give the Clusterfuck Olympics any more blog space. All the papers had six pages of utter bollocks to wade through before anything resembling news could be discerned. And then it was Syrian rebels. (Q. Will Hague be calling for NATO support for the renascent IRA? A. I don’t think so).
    .
    The R4 early shift was giving it ‘it’s wonderful’ without doubt or qualification, with a break only to detail the introduction of yet another performance standard in the NHS. Then back to the travels of the bloody torch.
    .
    My deranged neighbour with the Jubilee tat still adorning his house headed off early this morning en famille, hopefully to get mugged or lost forever in Stratford. I haven’t seen propaganda like this since the Diana woman became a statistic. (Q. What was the last thing to go through Diana’s mind? A. The dashboard.)
    Shame on you.
    And where’s Werritty?

  17. Love reading your blog,But I believe it is worth hosting the games.Seeing how moved the bollywood actor was after carrying the torch was heartwarming, and I’d guess many viewers in India would share my feelings. Watching this from New Zealand as an expat of 40 years, I sense a lot of good will being generated,and London’s multi culturism Will impress an awful lot of people through out the World.

  18. O/T: Here’s Blair piggybacking on the shambOlympics to establish his credibility as a champion of the working class…
    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02288/mitt-blair-1_2288576c.jpg
    .
    Blog here:
    {http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mitt-romney/9428295/Mitt-Romney-in-London-as-it-happened.html}
    The ALEC offensive.

  19. Mike Mowbray
    Yeah we have been getting ready to meet and greet our guests in the “multicultural” Britain, yet another great legacy of Anthony Linton Blair, and his wonderful inner circle: the likes of David Millipede:
    -ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ZJPCWtyGo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBQeEEtRenU

  20. Ought to be track-and-field only, held in Greece and free to watch, with laurel wreathes for prizes and no sponsorship. Whole thing’s a corporate bun fight.

  21. Passerby – 1:42 in your link.

  22. “The Olympics, the Royal Wedding, and the Jubilee do not seem to have resulted in any deaths as far as I know…”

    The same is said, foolishly, of Fukushima.
    The deaths will come in many ways: some will die of malnutrition and cold, because society has chosen to spend its scarce resources on the Olympics rather than social welfare. Others will die of neglect in prisons or police actions where corporate employees are instructed to put profit above duty, and cost cutting above the preservation of life.
    There will be increases in suicide rates as despair spreads. There will be “crime,” as desperate people refuse to watch their families starve, and this will lead to deaths.
    And then there will be the victims of jingoism as the state is reduced to cheap triumphs abroad because it is incapable of dealing with reality at home.
    But most of all there will be the victims of the people (and these include all three of the political parties) who have destroyed the NHS not because they believe in neo-liberalism but merely because they are cowards in the face of greed. They will kill millions as the years pass.
    And so will Fukushima.

  23. FYI from the PSC
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    Israel Runs Olympic Rings Round The BBC
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    The BBC always claims it doesn’t bow to pressure from Israel, but that claim came spectacularly unstuck last week.
    .
    It all began with a letter from Israeli government spokesperson, Mark Regev, to the Director of the BBC’s Bureau in Israel, Paul Danahar. Regev asked why the BBC had failed to list Israel’s capital on its online Olympic profile for the country, but had named the capital of all other countries and ‘non-country’ (by which we presume he meant Palestine, which had East Jerusalem listed as its capital). The BBC made an immediate change to its webpage, adding Jerusalem to Israel’s country profile as its ‘seat of government’. Not ‘West Jerusalem’, but ‘Jerusalem’. Changes were also made to the Palestinian page. The actual capital of Israel – Tel Aviv – received no mention whatsoever.
    .

    Then, this week, the Israeli Prime Minister’s office contacted the BBC asking that it change the photograph it uses on its online News profile page for Israel. The original photograph showed an Israeli soldier confronting a Palestinian. This has now been replaced with the Israeli government’s preferred picture of an arty Bauhaus building in Tel Aviv. The photograph on the News profile page for the Palestinian Territories continues to show Palestinian youths throwing stones.

    .

    Please write to the BBC asking why it refuses to name Tel Aviv as Israel’s capital. And ask that, at the very least, it corrects ‘Jerusalem’ to ‘West Jerusalem’ as Israel’s ‘seat of government’. This inaccuracy is present on both the Olympic webpage and the News profile, which is a permanent page on the BBC website. Israel wants the media to recognise Jerusalem as its capital, and it’s essential the BBC gets its facts right. You may also want to ask why a foreign government holds this kind of influence over the BBC – is this the BBC’s idea of impartiality?

    .

    You can write to the BBC via the website. Please ask for a reply. If you’re dissatisfied with the answer you receive, you are entitled to write again.
    .
    http://www.palestinecampaign.org/index7b.asp?m_id=1&l1_id=4&l2_id=24&Content_ID=2703&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PSC+Update%3A+Palestine+at+the+Olympics.&utm_source=YMLP&utm_term=here

  24. After severe cuts to UK police, officers are drafted from all departments to assist with Olympics….
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    Rare classified image of the Olympics Control Centre.
    .
    http://www.coia.org.uk/control.png

  25. Giles,
    Are you alluding to the equal opportunity racism, on display?

  26. The bloody bloodstained Union flag will be much in evidence tonight. Will the royals be able to resist the temptation to wear military uniform?
    .
    The EU ‘stole’ Beethoven’s Ode to Joy as their anthem. Tonight the 9th is being performed at the Proms by the West Eastern Divan Orchestra under Daniel Barenboim. The performance is being trailed on the BBC as a celebration of the Olympic games!
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/whats-on/2012/july-27/14342
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    ‘An impressive team of soloists joins the National Youth Choir of Great Britain and the West–Eastern Divan Orchestra to project the finale’s inclusive vision of hope, reconciliation and hard-won triumph. What better to mark today’s opening of the London 2012 Olympics than Beethoven’s ultimate hymn to universal brotherhood?’
    .
    I am totally sick of the build up, the procession of the torch (not from the ancient gamnes but a modern invention from the Berlin Olympics) and the gush coming out of the media and the presenters. They must have all had special brainwashing.

  27. Uzbek in the UK

    27 Jul, 2012 - 2:25 pm

    Mr Murray
    .
    Since Moscow Olympics, Olympics is NOTHING to do with sport. In the last 20 years Olympics was a corporate promotion exercise. Look at torch bearers. First Samsung bus passes, then Coca Cola bus, then Lloyds, and only then torch bearers appear with their 250 quid torch which ironically then they can purchase. I met few people who were “honoured” to run with torch and some of them did not have extra money to buy it.
    .
    Opening ceremony today will be full of dictators, tax dodgers, war criminals and etc.
    .
    Olympics turned into a circus where rich and powerful are entertained by so called sportsmen and women each of whom is turned into a promotional dummy with Olympics sponsor brands.
    .
    At present economic and political climate Olympics serves good facade to hide current and future problems. It had already caused problems for many people, and it will cause problems for even more, for years to come.

  28. Mary – you can always tune out and tend to your hornbeam hedge; I think the GBC is bad for your health.

    Passerby – alluding to the announcement.

  29. Wow! Jeremy *unt managed to ring a handbell this morning at 8.12am. There’s a clever boy. More of the tripe using more of the Arts Council funny money (£55million??)that has been sloshing around on the ‘Cultural Olympiad’ under the capable management of Ruth Mackenzie. A whiff of Common Purpose lingers!
    .
    And how about the Nowhereisland that is being towed around the SW coast. That was a snip at £half a million.
    .
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2012/jul/26/ring-bell-martin-creed-olympics?newsfeed=true
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    {http://nowhereisland.org/about/}

  30. It is not just ZBC, Giles. It is ITV, Sky News, Channel 4 and nearly ALL the media. Thank you for your assustance.
    .
    Iain Sinclair – someone after my own heart – last night on Channel 4 News. He was up against the redoubtable Mr Jowell who told us she is living in the Olympic Village. Why? Snow had to shut her garbage up. She is like a recorded message machine.
    http://www.channel4.com/news/torch-fires-british-passion-for-the-games

  31. Komodo,
    ,
    Apologies,i hadn’t intended to offend you.
    .
    You remain,as ever,the benevolent form of reptilia. :.)

  32. Giles
    Seeing, woods, trees etc. Thanks for the heads up, touché!

  33. Glad to see that http://www.palestinecampaign.org got onto that BBC Olympic website story.

  34. Personally I do not give a flying fuck for the olympics…as Craig has said it is a podium for self aggrandising politicos to have thier 15 mins of fame on the goggle box telling how the event is a bonus for the people of the UK and a boon to our overseas reputation etc et bloody cetera.
    I have no intention of watching the opening ceremony tonight which, I believe, consists of some farm animals and other stuff. Why not have a stage featuring sink estates, hoodie gangs,a riot with a couple of burning buildings and a few coppers beating the shit out of a random member of Joe Public. Much more entertaining for the thuggish VIP plonkers from Bahrain, Saudi and other enlightened nations.
    I have no doubt we will see no shows for events from some nations team members, as they will be busy in the local nick begging for asylum.
    We will no doubt be subjected to the same grovelling shots of the German Royal Family, represented by Willi and Katie cheering enthusiastically for so called Team GB, and also boo hiss from the tabloids for Scots athletes whom refuse to sing “god save er maj”
    Think there is a decent Bond movie on the telly tonight, know what I will be watching !

  35. follow the olympic fat cat money trail …
    .
    this was meant to be Blairs nuremburg …

  36. Frazer,
    .
    “Think there is a decent Bond movie on the telly tonight, know what I will be watching !”
    .
    No offence Frazer i agree with most of your post but do you think the Bond franchise can be seperated from the other UK PLC scamster action detailed in your post?
    .
    It’s all a load of bollocks really.

  37. Jives, mate…It has got Roger Moore in it, whom Craig has met and is a very nice man, and a UNICEF Ambassador…no contest really.

  38. Frazer,

    No worries fella…tonight i will be sitting in my local in Glasgow,surrounded by mainly fellow Glaswegians who,i predict,will all be sitting there muttering “Whits aw this pish aboot oanyways??” :.)

  39. @Jives – I take your general point, that everything is tainted by money. Sure, I agree. That said: at present I’m listening to a blues singer, whose record is released on Universal Records, streamed via Last.fm who promote Amazon, all on my Mac laptop. I don’t like big corp or big money any more than you do, but there’s still beauty and art in the world, wonderful music and classic films.
    .
    Don’t let corporatism bring you down entirely.

  40. Uzbek in the UK

    27 Jul, 2012 - 4:36 pm

    Horible news from Uzbekistan. 59 years old Human Right activist Akromjon Mukhitdinov was killed 2 days ago by two of his own neighbours and few other unknown men.
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    So far info is only in Russian
    .
    http://www.fergananews.com/article.php?id=7432

  41. Jon,
    .
    I understand what you’re saying.However i don’t have a problem with capitalism or corporatism per se except where some of them become so powerful they become thuggish monopolies forcing their action down peoples throats.I’m thinking specifically of the “brand enforcement police” type action at the O*ympics.Absurd yes-but sinister too.
    .
    I was listening to the wonderful Skip James earlier,by the by…

  42. Mitt Romney at a meeting with Sir John Sawers, head of MI6, discussed the progress (of foreign intervention)in Syria. The meeting was neither confirmed or denied by the Foreign Office although interestingly the CBS video, a record of the conversation, does not play.
    .
    Oh dear Mitt, y’all oughta know dude us Brits keep certain things tight to our chests especially clandestine massacres in a foreign country by British ex-SAS trained terrorists.
    .
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57480876-503544/did-romney-break-cone-of-silence/?tag=contentMain;contentBody

  43. Uzbek in the UK

    27 Jul, 2012 - 5:05 pm

  44. Listening to Ms. Spelmann wax lyrically of the ‘greenest Olympics ever for having halved the water usage by clever technologies’ had me in stitches.
    .
    How can she even say this, anybody who ever connected to Stratford international, down some long escalators into the concrete pit were the railways fly by, the whole station is concrete.
    .
    For green Olympics read ‘shared Olympics’, were we would have offered France to share the event, open a new agenda, were making do with what is already in existence counts more than nationalistic posing and missiles on the roofs.
    We would have paid some 2-3 billion for the security and transport arrangements, extra trains and more ferries. France’s bid was the greenest, at its core stadia which were already in existence, they were ready to roll.
    .
    But that would have meant no pouring of concrete, well, far less of it, the message would have got out, if you can share with another country, in true Olympian spirit, and in a world of finite resources, at a time when we need for less concrete, less energy expenditure and more common sense.
    No money could have been fleeced off the lottery for spurious services, no lucrative side contracts for chums and such would have materialised. Austerity Europe would have experienced the greenest Olympics ever, a sign to follow.
    .
    But why should we think when we can make big bucks, pose with brand products and brag ‘about it all’ ,Hallo Boris, and schmooze every god damn freak visiting with their security entourage, whilst threatening traders with the Brand SS, paid for by the taxpayer, a sado masochistic tax/self flagellation were those who punish and fine us large sums for selling ‘Games pie’, and at the end of the month, get paid by our taxes.

  45. Uzbek in the UK

    27 Jul, 2012 - 5:09 pm

    Information on Mukhitdinov’s assasination in English
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    http://www.uznews.net/news_single.php?lng=en&sub=top&cid=3&nid=20420

  46. (Dame) Tessa Jowell says it’s ok to be curmudgeonly about the Limp Ics. So that’s OK then.
    .
    I see that if you want to go up to the top of Mr Mittal’s Orbit tower, you have to fork out:
    .
    Entry fees to the sculpture in Stratford, east London, will be £15 for adults and £7 for children and pensioners. A family of four will have to add £44 to the cost of their day out if they want to ascend the tower, which offers panoramic views over the Park and the London skyline.
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    4p per ft. Another snip.
    .
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/architecture/9261121/London-2012-Olympic-tower-prices-go-into-Orbit.html

  47. Ms Fiona Bruce is feeding Mr Bliar with the right questions outside Buckingham Palace. HM ER II has just held a reception for heads of government and world leaders. No doubt he fitted into the latter category and was welcomed in.

  48. “Since Moscow Olympics, Olympics is NOTHING to do with sport.”
    .
    That’s right Uzbek! London was allocated the Games because the UK did its duty on behalf of George W. Bush. Tony Blair I notice got his face in front of the Olympics’ Stadia babbling on about how great it is for Britain in this wall to wall coverage. So Craig’s opening statement is quite correct.

    My feelings are in sympathy with the London barrow boys who are already sick of the Games. But there will be sporting events I wouldn’t want to miss, like the cycling. And I would like to see our sports people rewarded for the training they have undertaken. The opening ceremony does not mean so much to me but I guess there will be nothing else to watch.

  49. Uzbek, the human rights activist, Akromjon Mukhitdinov, was campaigning on behalf of child labour in the cotton fields.

  50. technicolour

    27 Jul, 2012 - 7:26 pm

    (phew) thanks Jives. Or rather, THANKS!!!!

  51. I’m trying to find out who will be supplying the £8 Bn which is being punted as the cost of redeveloping Battersea Power Station, recently sold to some Malaysians for £400 M. Given Osborne’s predeliction for firing taxpayers’ money at random foreign entrepreneurs in exchange for a service either worse or far more expensive than could be provided with local resources, am I being unduly cynical in thinking (oh christ, now Blair’s blethering about the bloody Olympics on R4…..back from the toilet, carry on) that we shall be providing some of the necessary for this potentially profitable exercise in social cleansing?
    .
    Answers gratefully received.

  52. Whatever one thinks about the olympics, something has gone horribly wrong. The plan of the Thames in the opening ceremony, yuk. The bucolic scenes of sheep and villages: that’s hardly going to gain British approval.

    Worst of all, the actors dressed up in nurses’ uniforms. If they can’t have real nurses, then it should have been dropped. It is totally dishonest to suggest the importance of the NHS, while at the same time cutting it in pieces. That is not going to pass well with the public.

  53. And the froth continues to flow from the stadium while the sheeple lap it up.
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    £27m when there are children in this sceptre’d isle existing on 10 meals a week instead of 21.

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    ‘A potential worldwide audience of billions are about to watch the Olympic Games get under way tonight with a £27m opening ceremony.
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    The Isles of Wonder spectacular will welcome the world to east London as the build-up of the last few months becomes a reality.
    .

    Ceremony director Danny Boyle has dedicated the extravaganza to the 15,000 volunteers helping to bring it to life as organisers said they expected a sell-out crowd of 62,000 in the audience at the Olympic Stadium in Stratford.’
    .
    http://news.sky.com/story/965680/olympics-countdown-to-opening-ceremony
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    Did you like the In Memoriam segment for the 7/7 victims and the several references to the military in two world wars? Even the Chelsea Pensioners were included. Not mentioned of course were any of the human losses in other countries where our offensive wars have taken place since WWII.

  54. “David Beckham , Mr Bean everything that is Global.”

    Quote from Radio 5.

    The wife has got in on.

    om

  55. Outside the stadium, not all is well. Mass arrests and kettling.
    .
    http://inagist.com/all/228941774230528000/

  56. Fortified by a couple of pints, I actually watched a good chunk of this down the Social. Sorry, it was a technically brilliant and weirdly absorbing montage of our country’s journey from a peasant economy, through the exploitation of the urban masses, to a dilettante community whose idea of high culture is gangsta rap. Effects, lighting, script, choreography – 10/10. Well done, Danny Boyle. Pity about the blurry politics, though, and certainly not worth my annual Social and Sports Club membership let alone £150. Only a couple of other customers were watching, in any case, so popular appeal, 3/10.

  57. I didn’t mention Mr. Bean. Intentionally. Sad to think that Johnny Foreigner, when he thinks of us at all, thinks of this shambling and unfunny twat, but it is so, and his inclusion was unfortunately unavoidable.

  58. About time the police clamped down on cyclists. They have much traffic chaos to answer for.

  59. What strength was that beer you had down at the pub?

  60. opening ceremony biggest subvert ever: will post tomorrow

  61. “Sad to think that Johnny Foreigner, when he thinks of us at all, thinks of this shambling and unfunny twat, but it is so, and his inclusion was unfortunately unavoidable.”

    yeah, so much better if we’d presented a robotic technical perfection…

  62. Mary: Foster’s. So I don’t give a XXXX. Technically, it was brilliant. I’m a technician, and back in the day I worked on a Royal Tournament, about 1/10 the scale of that, so I am qualified to judge.
    Technicolour: You’re right. You spotted the pink arches, then? And now a word from our sponsor…. but it was very well done.

  63. The last thing we need to present to anyone is blithering incompetence, Technicolour. Remember the IQ of the great majority. But Bean is very big in those luckless nations without a sense of humour, so he’s got to be there.

  64. The maritime laws, and air-transport laws maintain slowest has the right of way/priority. Unfortunately when it come to road traffic laws it is evident that slowest has no rights of any sorts and can be basically fucked around by the faster vehicles operators whimsy. That is not withstanding the whims of the planners and designers, who are too busy addressing for vehicle needs and not the pedestrian and the cyclist, hence the nice road layout turns out to be a heck of walk, or a cycle journey just to overcome the distances which are specifically designed with engined vehicles in mind. This is further complicated by the fact that soon as a driver gets into the vehicle then they verily believe the patch of the road they are on is owned by them, and no pesky pedestrians and cyclists can have any access to the said patch.
    ,
    Although it must be added that with privilege comes the sting in the tail, any cyclist not strictly adhering and observing the traffic laws are treated on equal basis as their four wheeled counterparts, and in fact the driving licences of the individuals can be withdrawn despite the offender being in charge of a bicycle whilst committing the traffic law violation.
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    Those travelling to continent soon find the rights of the cyclists and the insurance costs there, of, nothing is more impressive than watching an eighteen wheel juggernaut, coming to a halt to give way to a pedal cyclist. Needless to point out here in UK, and most of the third world cyclists take their lives into their own hands by just appearing near a paved road.
    ,
    Finally given that the protesters may not have applied for the relevant permits, and subsequently may not have paid the various levies, and fees as per the by-laws of the respective municipality, therefore Police then have the right to move in and arrested them for any number of offences on the statue which of course mean to lawfully stop the unthinking protesters!
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    Dunchyou just love the smell of democracy?

  65. much better if we’d presented a robotic technical perfection…
    Japanese could not deliver it on the budget set aside for it!!!!

  66. All the socialist realism of a Rungrado May Day parade.

  67. “weirdly absorbing”… to a drunken Komodo.

  68. Komodo,
    Where is Werrity anyway?
    ..
    I saw Liam Foxy this morning at Paddington station. No Werrity. Foxy had very turbulant look and he walked fast as if smn was chasing him. His face was very pale.

  69. I just saw it on the internet. I don’t know that I would pay £150 to see the broadcast. But would I pay £150 for a ticket to the real thing? Well, the opening or closing ceremony, just maybe, though I never tried to get a ticket.

  70. Over the last few years I’ve been trying to avoid the fact that the mystical side of Judaism, which manifests itself elsewhere as freemasonry, is totally influencing what goes on in the world. However the Olympic opening ceremony seems to show that what groups which might appear to be on the fringe have been postulating for some time might quite well be true. Without getting out of my depth, and without going into too much detail, if anybody else with a knowledge of freemasonry would care to get in touch and share their thoughts I should be happy to discuss.
    .
    I think all four songs were Zionist, but I’m not sure. Certainly Blake’s lines ‘And was Jerusalem builded here on England’s green and pleasant land’, the opening hymn, contains elements of Zionist ambitions, as some bloggers have noted. Then there was the beautiful Scottish hymn, or folk-song, ‘Flower of Scotland’ which refers to the thistle, an emblem, especially when connected with the rose, of Scottish lodges. Thirdly a group of Northern Irish singers stood on the Giant’s causeway to sing ‘Danny Boy’ which was, and is, one of the most awe-inspiring and emotional songs ever written. Then came Wales, and their hymn was ‘Guide me O thou Great Redeemer’ which contains the lines ‘Bread of Heaven, Bread of Heaven, feed me now and evermore’. So ‘manna from heaven’ but what or who does ‘great redeemer’ apply? There is no mention of Jesus in this hymn, and no mention of a Christian God. What’s more there are lots of hymns like this. They need taking out of Christian hymn books. They say the Devil has all the best tunes. So let’s punk-rock!

  71. Sat in a Glasgow pub watching it.
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    All the punters horrified and lauging at the chaotic dark underlit shambles.
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    All choreography out of sync,most constant imagery of war and idustrial historical exploitation(slavery).
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    Overlong,homogenised,dark and sinister colouring.
    .A cycle of war motifs,slavery(industrial revolution) and the prattle of textual modernism.
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    Epic fail.
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    I think Danny Boyle was actually subverting the whole charade.

  72. Ban Ki Moon was an Olympic flag bearer yesterday. I presume this was before he insisted that Syrian forces stop opposing the Western backed terrorists in Alleppo. Hypocritical piece of shit.
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    Well done Syria, keep it up.

  73. Danny Boyle explains the concept of the Olympics Opening Ceremony in his introduction on the official programme:
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    http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2012/07/27/danny-boyles-intro-on-olympics-programme/
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    … a single golden thread of purpose – the idea of Jerusalem -

  74. War Dance I agree. Seeing the USUKIsNATO stooge doing that was sick. Also what were Barenboim and Chakrabati doing there? And to drag old Mohammed Ali on who didn’t seem to know what was happening let alone able to stand, was cruel.

    I thought the technology behind the lighting of the flame was both beautiful and brilliant but would not like to be paying the gas bill. It rather exemplified the waste of resources that the 21st century world is guilty of.

    I thought that Churchill had returned from the dead to write Coe’s speech! If the Olympics survive the coming collapse, I see Coe positioning himself to take Rogge’s place.

  75. “weirdly absorbing”… to a drunken Komodo.
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    And hence also, I’d say, to a sober Sun or Mail reader. Mission accomplished. No-one was looking to impress David Starkey. Also I think you could take any political message out of it you liked. Were the tophatted industrialists/bankers conjuring jobs or profits from the chimneys?
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    I would have preferred to watch it in a Glasgow pub
    …but maybe the pub TV needed adjusting, from your description, Jives.
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    I know someone whose birthday’s on the 7th. Creepy or what?
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    Thanks for the Liam Fox sighting.Good to know he’s unhappy.

  76. http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2012/07/27/danny-boyles-intro-on-olympics-programme/
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    Some of the comments are good esp this one -
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    ‘Guess who said it:
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    “Oh, my goodness, the United Kingdom, they’ve had a phenomenal year. I mean, they’ve pulled off a major wedding, a Diamond Jubilee and now, the Olympics. They know what they’re doing.”
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    A) Michelle Obama
    B) Ann Romney
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    The answer is A) of course.

  77. BTW the Chanukah menorah holds nine candles. So the buggers have claimed nine as well…
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    If….Danny Boyle instead of the failed brewery-pissup manager we’ve got were PM….

  78. Remembering Ian Tomlinson who was killed in Cornhill, less than 5 miles fron Stratford in April 2009. He was living in a hostel in Smithfield at the time of his death. When married and living with his wife and family, his home was in the Isle of Dogs.
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    http://www.counterfire.org/index.php/articles/opinion/15914-ian-tomlinson-a-story-of-injustice
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    {http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9412220/Ian-Tomlinson-a-brilliant-dad-whose-life-took-downward-spiral.html}
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    How did Harwood get off?

  79. @AidanBurleyMP got a lot of stick on Twitter for these:
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    ‘The most leftie opening ceremony I have ever seen – more than Beijing, the capital of a communist state! Welfare tribute next?’
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    ‘Thank God the athletes have arrived! Now we can move on from leftie multi-cultural crap. Bring back red arrows, Shakespeare and the Stones!’
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    Then he came back later and tweeted:
    ‘Seems my tweet has been misunderstood. I was talking about the way it was handled in the show, not multiculturalism itself’
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    which sounded awfully like recent excuses by American right-wing politians, the morning after appearing on a TV interview: “My remark was taken out of context.”

  80. Barenboim (on his West-East Divan Orchestra)
    The Divan is not a love story, and it is not a peace story. It has very flatteringly been described as a project for peace. It isn’t. It’s not going to bring peace, whether you play well or not so well. The Divan was conceived as a project against ignorance. A project against the fact that it is absolutely essential for people to get to know the other, to understand what the other thinks and feels, without necessarily agreeing with it. I’m not trying to convert the Arab members of the Divan to the Israeli point of view, and [I'm] not trying to convince the Israelis to the Arab point of view. But I want to – and unfortunately I am alone in this now that Edward (Said) died a few years ago – …create a platform where the two sides can disagree and not resort to knives.
    Also a magnificent musician. What’s the problem?
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    Ali: yes, but maybe he wanted to come?
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    The bottom line is nothing to do with the slebs present. How much did Joe British Taxpayer wind up paying for an ephemeral event localised in London while the economy collapses in flames around him? How much if any of it will Joe Taxpayer get back in any shape or form?
    Wouldn’t it have been better to just regenerate the area for its pre-existing population?
    So many questions. What an American politician’s wife thinks is supremely irrelevant to any of them.

  81. After a stimulating start, my eyes were glazing once they got to the sub-West Side Story love interest bit, and I can see where Burley was coming from. Neither the “stars”, nor what looked like a majority of the extras were white (as, I perhaps should remind my critics, the majority even now of the English population is) , and there was rather a lot of shite ghetto “music”, which IMO is not British culture. Celebrating multiculti is making the best of a bad job, and an inevitable one, given our enthusiasm for importing cheap labour and economic refugees. I’m surprised there weren’t tableaux of Somalis chewing qat or Poles picking strawberries, but there you go.

  82. It does seem a bit bloody daft to be denouncing multiculturalism in the opening ceremony of a yoke that will involve 205 countries. Yes, yes, I know it was a celebration of Great Britain, but still, Burley came across like an idiot.
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    I wasn’t planning to watch it, and missed the first 40 mins thereby, but got sucked in via Twitter.

  83. I don’t think Burley ahs issues with looking an idiot -
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    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-mp-aidan-burley-filmed-96422
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    Did theology at Oxford, too…

  84. And Tim Berners-Lee tweeted live from the middle of the show, just before he stood up and waved. Good to see him there. One in the eye for the Yanks, most of whom have never heard of him.
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    I’ll be curious to see what Technicolour has to say.

  85. No, Komodo, he doesn’t – him and his ‘Nazi-themed stag party’.
    But he got such a deluge of response that he felt obliged to pull back, nevertheless.
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    I recommend “group viewing” of TV programmes via Twitter. Hilarious. The tweet commentary was far better than the BBC’s!

  86. @John Goss -
    I think you’ll find, as you pursue your researches, that the Zionist strain in British/American Christianity derives more from the Protestants’ belief that they, not the Jews, are the people to whom the Old Testament applies. We got rid of quite a lot of these wackoes to America, starting with the Pilgrim Fathers, encouraged in their belief by the opportunities in the new land flowing with milk and honey which God had instructed them to take from the natives. American exceptionalism can be traced to that time.
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    Obviously if the Jews were the chosen people, the Christians wouldn’t be in with a chance, and certainly I remember being taught as a kid that “we” were the people. Hence the frequent references to Zion (including Methodist chapels named ‘Zion’) in British Christian works from at least the 18th century. Also I think this has much to do with the appeal of mass Christianity – again, Chapel as much as Church – to the effectively enslaved workers in the Victorian powerhouse. There is a better land to which we can escape…it says so in the Old Testament…During most of this period, Jews were not highly rated as members of society and it is doubtful if they would have exerted this kind of influence on Christianity. Enough that the rich ones could bail out the government from time to time.

  87. …’Did theology at Oxford, too…..’
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    And he did Zionism in Israel
    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/aidan_burley/cannock_chase#register
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    I think it is highly relevant that Michelle Obama, the wife of an evil emperor, heaps praise on the empire which is their partner in war crimes.
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    I thought the gold emblazoning the uniform, complete with gold laces in the trainers, was naff and v Golders Green. Designed by Next {http://uk.eonline.com/news/333810/olympic-opening-ceremony-fashion-stella-mccartney-disavows-great-britain-s-suits-and-other-highs-and-lows}
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    Chief executive of Next? Why Lord Wolfson of Apsley Guise of course.
    {http://www.nextplc.co.uk/about-next/board-members.aspx}

  88. Reference the In Memoriam segment and the security and miitarisation aspects.
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    ‘Why is it felt that the London Olympics requires such a level of military protection? And what form should the defensive measures take? Neither question is up for debate in the mainstream news, despite very relevant, recent, historical evidence to inform the former.
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    Gordon Corera, BBC News Security correspondent, writes: ‘The shadow of terrorism has hung over the Games for a reason. The day after London won its Olympic bid on 6 July 2005, suicide bombers struck the city.’ Referencing the connection between the terrorist attack then and the need to protect now, the underlying reasons were still not explored. Shortly after the bombings, the BBC News website published the text from the videotape made by one of the bombers. ‘Your democratically elected governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people all over the world’, he told the camera. This was undoubtedly a reference primarily to the UK’s involvement in the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. A clear evidential link is shown here between British foreign policy and the last terrorist attacks on London, yet no BBC journalists have so much as drawn a connection between the continued British occupation of Afghanistan and the installation, now, of such a high level of security for the Olympics; not once is reference made to the British occupation of Afghanistan in any BBC coverage of Olympic security….
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    The issue of the militarisation and securitisation of East London is depoliticised for consumption in the news. Offering context to the need for such a high level of security, or discussing the practices of the private firm we trust with its provision, would no doubt create alternative narratives about the impact and legacy of the London Olympics.’
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    http://www.newsunspun.org/article/olympic-security-and-the-limits-of-debate

  89. Burley most certainly looks the part: a congenital idiot, and a living proof that evolutionary dead ends, somehow are not always coincident with extinction.

  90. Seen a bit of the hullabaloo, one question to Danny Boyle. What has Wayne’s world got to do with either Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody or British history through time.?

  91. @John Goss: “I’ve been trying to avoid the fact that the mystical side of Judaism, which manifests itself elsewhere as freemasonry, is totally influencing what goes on in the world.”

    This reminds me of a writer on mysticism (who passed away in the last century) being quoted by one of his students as saying in a low voice about some visitors: “Some people’s “facts” are so wrong, that one can only hope that their fantasies are of better quality!”

  92. I thought the gold emblazoning the uniform, complete with gold laces in the trainers, was naff
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    Mary, you have articulated what I was trying to make sense of. Indeed naff naff, and somehow expected and somewhat becoming along with the rest of the “greatest show” so far.

  93. PS. I always thought that the belief in a “Supreme Being” of the freemasons was less well-defined than the Jewish one.

  94. Komodo, it’s a valid observation. In fact I’m trying to find out how many bishops of the Anglican Church are freemasons. This is not easy since I don’t have a current Masonic Year Book.
    .
    As an engineer those triangular lights strike me as being inefficient in light production. Spectacular though it was, and nobody can deny it was spectacular, the Games opening ceremony was replete with masonic reference from start to finish. Peter Pan (Barrie was a mason), Mary Poppins (Walt Disney was a 33 degree mason, the Provincial Grand Lodge, lodge number 8908, is called Isambard Brunel Lodge and so it goes on. It would not surprise me if Paul McCartney had become a mason.

  95. Hi all

    There’s a demo today for Rohingya Rights at London 2012
    http://www.restlessbeings.org/campaigns/demo-for-rohingya-rights-at-london-2012

    It’s horrific how little media covergae this conflict has been getting – this is real ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya people by Burma’s ‘peace-loving’ ethnic Buddhists, and even Burma’s democracy poster-girl Aung San Suu Kyi won’t say a word in condemnation (you can’t win elections by saying the truth can you now).

    Please help raise awareness of the plight of the Rohingya and write to your MPs etc.
    Thanks

  96. G4S ‘BRIDGING THE GAP’ FIASCO…
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    Many home office approved security guards/doormen who were promised work at the Olympic games by registering with the ‘Bridging the Gap’ agency, a government sponsored company specifically set-up two years ago to serve as a pool of temporary qualified security personnel.
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    The government ie agent Cameron is responsible for all these family men with commitments left hanging without employment because the government panicked and made the decision to use army personnel.
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    The truth about this botched situation has been covered up by this government and G4S kept quiet by financial black-mail.
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    http://www.bridging-the-gap.co.uk/WorkingattheGames.aspx

  97. Abe Rene, “Some people’s “facts” are so wrong, that one can only hope that their fantasies are of better quality!”
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    What do you have to gain by trying to belittle my observations? I did not create the great welter of videos speculating on freemasonry and Zionist manipulation of the Games, presented as a reward to Tony Blair for his support in NATO’s Islamic wars. I have just added comments to the speculation.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b08qncBh4GY

  98. Well, I submit to no one in curmudgeonly disdain for the Olympics, but I have to say I thought the Queen parachuting into the stadium was a stroke of genius. Can you imagine any other head of state agreeing to a stunt like that? As a piece of self-deprecating daftness it epitomised what I like best about this country.
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    And I was a card-carrying Scoffer.

  99. The wonderful ‘self-deprecating daftness’ has caused some confusion abroad, by all accounts. But who cares?
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    “I thought the gold emblazoning the uniform, complete with gold laces in the trainers, was naff”
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    Was that Team GB? Twitter decided the uniform was designed by Ali G.
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    And this one made me laugh too, as the various teams were coming into the stadium:
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    ‘The Queen is sitting there saying mine, used to be, own, wouldn’t want it, mine, mine, got rid of it, mine’
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    Plus this:
    ‘Unable to help himself, Bono snatches some random flag and starts walking out into the stadium’

  100. I live in a working class enclave in central London. It feels very oppressive. We have police helicopters all night and day. We even have army helicopters watching us – I think they had guns in the open door but my eye sight is not what it used to be. The road I live on is a constant traffic jam thanks to the zil lanes.

    I know only one person who has a ticket to see an olympic event – and he is a friend from the posher side of SW London. At best my friends are disappointed. Most people I know despise the olympics.

    Of course this is not the reality portrayed by the media. Yesterday at 08:12 the radio was saying the whole of London was alive with peeling bells. I stuck my head out the window – I could only hear the distant big ben. And we have a lot of bells round here.

  101. ‘Please help raise awareness of the plight of the Rohingya and write to your MPs etc.’
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    I’ll send that link out on the ‘airwaves’ Blue.

  102. G4S – The Security Failure
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    Analysis of squandered public funds and wasted security personnel coming exclusively to Craig Murray on this thread after I have met with unemployed qualified security personnel who registered with ‘Bridging the Gap.’

  103. “Olympic opening ceremony: Boisterously, Britishly odd”
    http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/reviews/story/2012-07-28/Olympic-Opening-Ceremony/56551368/1
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    By Robert Bianco, USA TODAY

  104. Last night the South Bank was full of coppers. On foot, on bike, helicopters, police film crews, riot squad in vans round the corner. We were amazed. All for the cyclists who meet under waterloo bridge. These cyclists meet every month and cycle around London disrupting traffic. They are kids, very friendly, mostly middle class student types. Completely harmless. They have been doing it for years and there never is any trouble. Well, not before yesterday. Anyway the police were surrounding them and shouting at them with loud hailers. Very intimidating. Today. I am told the police pepper sprayed the cyclists as soon as they were away from the crowds of the south bank. Apparently lots were arrested. Welcome to the olympics.

  105. Janet,
    They are being charged under section 12, a really nifty Kafkaesque bit of legislation. “affray can be in public as well as private” and soon as the word “affray” makes an appearance, the custodial sentences come forth too. (I wish Courtney would enlighten us all about this particular catch all).
    ,
    BTW you may have misheard, the “peels of bollocks across London” can be easily mistaken for “peels of bells across …” sort of!

  106. @komodo “Neither the “stars”, nor what looked like a majority of the extras were white (as, I perhaps should remind my critics, the majority even now of the English population is) , and there was rather a lot of shite ghetto “music”, which IMO is not British culture”

    ….for all your apparent enlightness, your still confusing Englishness and Britishness and thinking they are one and the same. Come now, it really isnt that complicated.

    This ceremony was really about London and Englishness to be honest though – no real Celtic element,Celtic languages or history/culture to be seen or heard – i suppose they are called the London olympics after all: maybe it would have been a bit more genuine to call them ‘The Victorian empire opening ceremony’ ?

  107. I thought it was marvellous mass entertainment, yes, occasionally off the mark but surprising and sometimes excellent.
    I loved the inclusive low key torch relay which slowly and steadily built up momentum and popularity over the last month or so in our local communities
    The athletes from all over the world looked happy and so relaxed in comparison to previous years, yes, the opening ceremony was naff at times, but it was fun too.
    I loved the way women were included in every single country’s athletes’ line up this year – a small but significant challenge to those still living in the Dark Ages
    I love the way the paraOlympics are being sold to us with so many paraOlympic athletes being includied in the preamble chats and advertising, FANTASTIC
    I loved the way the NHS was feted in the show, featuring real doctors and nurses, although that segment went on a bit.

    The forging of the Olympic rings was great theatre, as was the Bond and HM scene, and Mr Bean made the event accessible to everyone. Delightful, and what good sports the orchestra and Simon Rattle were!
    Naff, flawed, expensive, but somehow it was fun to see so many people working together and enjoying themselves.
    Cheer up you miserable lot, relax, put on your Sgt Pepper Olympic jacket with Christmas tinsel on the shoulder, and have a laugh.

  108. Aidan Burley MP ‏@AidanBurleyMP
    Tweet: “The most leftie opening ceremony I have ever seen – more than Beijing, the capital of a communist state! Welfare tribute next? ”
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    lol!

  109. Watching from the sidelines

    28 Jul, 2012 - 3:22 pm

    Jesus…this message board is depressing!
    What is the point of you people?

  110. I sure had a laugh, Barbara-unfortunately at it and not with it. The deep irony of the military bits and the NHS colour supplement was incredible. I just wish that Brunel and all those guys in suits and top-hats had cavorted around shouting out “Ecky thump, lad-there’s trouble at’ mill”, Monty Python fashion. To me the giant figure of Lord Voldemort was prescient.

  111. Barbara and Watching http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/37.gif
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    The cycle race through Surrey was expected to produce a gold for Mark Cavendish. Not. A Kazakh cyclist just won. Surrey rate and tax payers lose. 42 miles of barriers erected, traffic calming measures removed and nobody will say who will pay £250,000 for their reinstatement, roads which have been specially resurfaced are closed today,tomorrow and Weds, residents kettled, businesses shut. Genera disruption.Is the price worth paying? Just look at the ‘legacy’ that Athens inherited. The torch procession was also unbearable

  112. And the award for best headline so far goes to The Belfast Telegraph.
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    Olympics clanger: Jeremy Hunt almost hits woman with bell end while on board HMS Belfast

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/olympics-clanger-jeremy-hunt-almost-hits-woman-with-bell-end-while-on-board-hms-belfast-16190982.html
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    The UK Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt narrowly avoided maiming bystanders yesterday when he became ‘over excited’ while ringing his Olympic bell.

  113. Mary, Team GB could not catch up with the breakaway group. Perhaps Mark Cavendish did too much in winning the Paris stage of the tour on Sunday. We can only hope Bradley Wiggins and Chris Froome get us medals. Not a good start. Agree with torch procession. But I guess it made some people happy.

  114. “I saw Liam Foxy this morning at Paddington station. No Werrity. Foxy had very turbulant look and he walked fast as if smn was chasing him. His face was very pale.” Anapa.
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    Perhaps he was being chased by a North Face sports bag.

  115. In Hampden Park, Glasgow, they mixed up the North and South Korean flags on a big video screen – well, actually it was the LOCOG producer in London who made the video who mixed them up. This led to a truly bizarre and hilarious situation. Usual prefixes.
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    dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/07/25/north-korea-women-s-olympic-team-furious-after-locog-display-south-korean-flag-on-hampden-screens-86908-23912812/
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    Then, Lebanese athletes wanted to be screened off from Israeli athletes.Plus some other Swiftian amuusement:

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    telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/judo/9433680/London-2012-Olympics-Lebanon-judo-team-refuse-to-train-alongside-Israel.html

  116. technicolour

    28 Jul, 2012 - 5:43 pm

    Nuid, thank you! Am honoured. But what I think runs to about 3 paragraphs!

  117. Are these pro oyl impics from the same source, or are they from differing sources?
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    The in rush of; you must fall in line and enjoy the oyl impics is somewhat turning into an obligatory must celebrate sort of shit. Next are we all to get bussed somewhere, given a flag and told to wave at the nice “athletes” or “dear leader”s etc?
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    The wake for NHS, by celebrating the NHS was a good idea, seeing as the last labour lot, and the current condem lot, and before these the Thatcherite lot have been steadily privatising the NHS, and there is not much of a “national” left in it and soon that too will join the history sort of a prophecy of sorts, in the great show on Earth, rip NHS then.

  118. Good article on the London 2012 Olympics by ex-MI5 officer:

    http://anniemachon.ch/

  119. Mary: “£27m when there are children in this sceptre’d isle existing on 10 meals a week instead of 21.”
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    Mary
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    “Britain: Closure of hospital heart units will cost more children’s lives”
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    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jul2012/hear-j27.shtml
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    “Global elite descend on East London for Olympics”
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    {http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jul2012/olym-j27.shtml}

  120. SNP/G4S
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    http://www.firmmagazine.com/news/2981/G4S_in_the_frame_to_take_privatised_prison_tagging_contract_.html
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    Craig
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    {http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jul2012/scot-j28.shtml}

  121. Thanks for the Annie Machon piece Suhayl. She is good and it’s heartening to know that she reads Craig’s blog.
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    Also thanks for your comments on the previous post. I truly hope you are right on Libya. I will get round to your links tomorrow. Did you have a quiet spell between patients last night? If so, hope tonight goes the same way too. No bouncing on the beds Boyle style mind!

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    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/28/article-2180227-143FDFED000005DC-736_634x419.jpg
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    I like the Americans’ puzzlement at the concept of free healthcare.
    {http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180227/London-2012-Olympics-Some-Americans-left-baffled-tribute-NHS-Mary-Poppins-Opening-Ceremony.html?ito=feeds-newsxml}

  122. I didn’t see any of it, but received this from a friend today re Muhammed Ali which made me smile:

    Back in 1967 he was matched against Ernie Terrell (brother, incidentally, of Motown singer Tammi Terrell). Prior to the fight, Terrell insisted on referring to Ali as Cassius Clay. Towards the end of the bout, with Terrell well beaten, several times Ali landed a punch, and followed each punch by shouting at Terrell, “What’s my name?” Well, last night, seeing him suffering from Parkinson’s, I doubt whether Ali could’ve answered that question himself. Further, I feel that had she been minded so to do, the Queen could’ve knocked him over herself. Now that would’ve made the ceremony truly memorable…..

  123. Mary, thanks!!! Bouncing on beds indeed!!!
    .
    Rose, yes, that fight against Terrell was not one of Ali’s finer moments – physically, it was, but not morally. He completely outclassed the (in other circumstances, excellent) opponent and beat up Terrell more than was necessary. Both Ali and his biographer make clear that it was not good and that Ali regretted it afterwards. He was also psychologically cruel to Joe Frazier. One has to look at the context though – not that it’s an excuse – throughout that period, Ali was fighting against more than just a man in a ring. He was fighting a war machine and white supremacy (that uses, damages and destroys black people).
    .

    And furthermore, I’d have to say wrt your own comment, just above, that to revel in the distress or ill health of any person is not magnanimous or humane. Watching Ali light the torch in Atlanta some years ago was heartbreaking. He was a great man – not a perfect man – but a great man.

  124. Suhayl Saadi
    Damn good articulation of the points of importance. Ali was fighting more than the boxers in the ring, and the blows that he has taken during his fights, ought not be forgotten some of his opponents could punch with four to eight tones of force, that is enough to knock anyone’s block off, so to speak, fact that Ali was tougher and stood the beatings somehow goes missing in the winning context. Ali’s fights were never a one sided bout, Ali’s opponents were equally powerful boxers, and could punch a bull to the ground as easy as kicking a ball around.
    ,
    Anyone who has ever been involved in any kind of contact sport will attest: those poor guys earning their living as professionals are in fact getting paid to be beat the crap out of whilst fighting fatigue, pain, and exhaustion and stand the beating, all the while trying to get their opponents to give up or be knocked out, it is a two way fight, the punters are not fools and want to see a fight, not a one sided match that is fixed in one way or another.
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    Finally Ali is a role example for most of the boys growing up in ghetto across the planet.

  125. I was only 12 years old once.But i was possibly good at some things.THen someone else came along,different culture,possibly gender,different times.They kicked fuck out of me but by that time i was actually 86 and they were 24.
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    Luckily i didnt attempt to calibrate varying unknowable ratios,meanings and absurd calibrations.

  126. Suhayl Saadi
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    Great post about Ali, I agree with every word. I always thought it amazing that a man with very little education found the moral courage to refuse the draft and remain steadfast in the face of near total vilification. I understand, too, that a lot of those who vilified him later came to admit that he was right.
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    I was very disappointed, though, to learn that my favourite quote of the 20th Century, namely, ‘No Viet Cong ever called me nigger’, was apocryphal.
    .
    I really wish he had said it.

  127. Guest. Thanks. I should have written ‘sceptr’d’ and not ‘sceptre’d’.

    Those links you gave illustrate how phony an impression of the NHS was given by Boyle as its privatisation is under way. I suppose the theatrical impact of groups of private equity teams and members of think tanks strolling around hospitals and clinics, making notes and assessments and speaking their silken words at the lobby meetings with the COnDems, would have been nil. It would not have had the same impact as the happy bouncing on the giant beds which gave the impression that the NHS is now a totally happy organisation. As the cuts go deeper, staff morale falls, stress is greater and hence the service is adversely affected.
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    NHS in Olympic ceremony angers UK conservatives, vexes US media
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/329524
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    PS There is a reference to the sad case of Kane Gorny in the piece. ,,,’about a young man named Kane Gorny, who died of thirst in an NHS hospital after staff failed to simply give him a glass of water…’ The case was much more complicated than just the lack of a g;ass of water.

  128. Suhayl – quite right – not nice; I stand rebuked.

  129. Great link to Anne Machon, Suhayl, thanks, anybody who sees Ali is witnessing the combined forces of heavyweight boxing on brain tissue. His psychological box of tricks was immense and getting hit and shrugging it off was one of them.
    .
    The rumble in the jungle fight was a tremendous battering for his body, despite Foreman’s bout of illness and I’m not surprised he is a gibbering wreck of a role model.
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    The best for a boxer is not to get hit, the techniques Nasim Hamed and Herol Graham used, i.e moving fast out of the way and relying on hard counter punches, are sadly not applicable when both boxers are at their best,fast and furious, in that case you have to be able to take a few punches, ideally not on your weak spots. Because the moment you let your opponent know your hit and are suffering, by whatever small reaction, you’re toast, you can’t afford to let him have the psychological edge.
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    Ali was the master of psychological games and he started weeks before a fight to niggle at his opponents, usually something personal.

  130. technicolour

    29 Jul, 2012 - 1:23 pm

    This rather reflects my thoughts:

    They made us dance, but not to their tune. In the middle of this corporate putsch, under the humiliating yoke of the brand police, with crime-less protestors arrested, jailed, threatened and exiled in pre-emptive strikes which further mocked our freedom – in the middle of it all, in the Olympic stadium itself, London succeeded in sticking a giant two fingers up at the warmongering sociopaths and the marketeers; the global emperors of blandness and death.

    We gave them an immense CND symbol. We accused them with the Sex Pistols. We played them Enola Gay, the murderers; we charged them with the rage of Born Slippy. We celebrated with our NHS, and everyone knew who the monsters were. We mocked them and guyed them and sang at them and defied them. This was the warning, we were saying. We, who got rid of a king, replaced him by a dictator, and then got another, more fun, king back in again, know a thing or two about rebellion. Remember.

  131. Check out RT for the article on the Indian girl in red that gate crashed the team Inida parade around the Olympic Stadium.
    Unfortunately the 20,000 troops, missile batteries and warships couldn’t prevent this could’ve been Terrorist from slipping through security. Luckily the conflict was only of colour.

  132. Jonangus Mackay

    29 Jul, 2012 - 2:32 pm

    #DailyMail #Olympics #racism nailed—despite feeble cosmetic backtrack attempt http://bit.ly/P1PuiL @DannyBoyleFilm #LOCOG

  133. Jonangus Mackay

    29 Jul, 2012 - 2:41 pm

    Empty seats? Visible proof that LOCOG’s most important Olympic venues are standing-room only:
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    http://t.co/eJ28HW2t

  134. ” I always thought it amazing that a man with very little education found the moral courage to refuse the draft and remain steadfast in the face of near total vilification. I understand, too, that a lot of those who vilified him later came to admit that he was right….”
    At risk of being a bore: black men in the Jim Crow south were recipients of a the finest political education available. By the time Ali was 18 he knew more about America than any Ivy League professor ever could do. And every day what he knew was underlined.
    What we call education is designed to make us doubt that which is most evident. The moral courage, which is natural to all, is the first casualty of indoctrination. If it were not we would stand up for the poor and the victimised, and we would not countenance the evil our governments do, ‘on our behalf’,abroad.

  135. Thanks, Technicolour.
    I’m fascinated by your analysis.

  136. I see the IOC have suspended (Uzbek) Luiza Galiulina whose only crime seems to be to have taken medication.

    The IOC are “not comfortably satisfied, … the absence of an intent to enhance sport performance or mask the use of a performance-enhancing substance”.

    I myself do “not (feel) comfortably satisfied” about the sordid, corrupt and dubious practices of the IOC. The hypocrisy makes me feel quite nauseous.

  137. Mary @ 8.51 you must have missed the end of the NHS sequence – after the celebration of our health service big scary monsters came running on, and, as Technicolor quoted, ‘ we all knew what that meant’.

    To me the opening ceremony wasn’t just a jolly run through our British history, as some of the contributors here and in the media seem to suggest, but was full of allegories.

    An example was when Mr Bean (Rowan Atkinson) joined a group of runners on a beach. Falling behind, he first hit some of the runners and when that failed jumped in a car to get there first. The runners just kept going and Mr Bean failed to beat them.

    The dramatic final of the opening ceremony had me in tears with the solo singing of ‘Abide with Me’. As the singer got to the stanza ‘death and decay in all around I see’ one of the dancers in the darkened arena led a young boy (the future) towards the dance group and they enfolded him in their midst, protecting him. A bit cheesy maybe but I got the message.

    No wonder Aidan Burley, MP was upset !

    Mary – the BBC can be subversive sometimes. As they reported his remarks they put up a photo of ‘Mr Burley seen here at a Nazi-themed party’.

  138. “He was a great man – not a perfect man – but a great man.”
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    He IS a great man – not a perfect man – but a great man.

  139. “As the singer got to the stanza ‘death and decay in all around I see’ one of the dancers in the darkened arena led a young boy (the future) towards the dance group and they enfolded him in their midst, protecting him.”
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    werent they (the dancers) wearing Guantanomo orange?

  140. See the soldiers are being put to good use ! Filling up seats so as the ticket fiasco doesnt look so bad.Gone from defending Queen and country to defending Lord Coes reputation.
    Meanwhile not content with sitting atop the medals table China steams into the Med with 3 warships, joining Russia s 10.It is quite a statement to give Mad. Clinton.
    Isn’t it amazing how wars can suddenly be page 2 news as the circus takes over ?

  141. And as the result of non nonplussed Bullington bullies failure to regulate the offshore activities, ever more millionares are trying to divert their gains past the tax authorities using London’s unregulated boombustbailout and have another go banks as go betweens.
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/swiss-private-bank-uses-tax-loopholes-to-win-german-customers-a-846170.html

  142. Rose – thank you so much for your graciousness and ‘bigness’; it takes a lot to do what you did. Don’t worry, I too – we all, I think – have written posts which afterwards I/we have wished I/we hadn’t!
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    Wendy – yes, you’re so right. I hesitated before using the past tense wrt Ali, then I used it to enhance the sense of melancholic loss, you know?
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    Technicolour – stonkingly brilliant post. !Wham Bam! Indeed, remember, and tremble, ye kings.
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    Chris2 – key point, man.
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    Nevermind – my pleasure, and wrt boxing, yes, absolutely.
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    In short, people, we are awake, we, the people, are awake!!

  143. Wendy @ 6.59
    In the subdued lighting their clothes looked brown to me but I’m afraid I missed their dance and only came in at the end.Guantanamo orange clothing, I agree brings with it a much more sinister meaning than the one I gave them !

  144. “At risk of being a bore: black men in the Jim Crow south were recipients of a the finest political education available.”
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    So why did so many of them go and fight in Vietnam?

  145. Cassius Clay

    29 Jul, 2012 - 9:51 pm

    Remember that Muhammed Ali was “distrusted” by a lot of “liberal” Americans because he was approaching Civil Rights from a Muslim perspective (although many followers of Islam would not recognise his form of Islam if Michael X’s description of it as reported in Alex (“Roots”) Haley’s biography is correct.) People like Jackie Robinson queued up to condemn Ali on TV. If it had not been for his lack of support from the Christian wing of the Civil Rights wing, it would have been much harder for the USA to strip Ali of his world boxing title.

    It was a mark of the greatness of Martin Luther King that he supported Ali in public at this time.

    In passing, his statement that “Charlie (GI slang for Viet-Cong) never called me n****r” may be apocryphal, but it was certainly being repeated in the late 1960′s

  146. @ Cassius Clay,

    You meant – Malcolm X – didn’t you?

    “… his form of Islam if Michael X’s description of it as reported in Alex (“Roots”) Haley’s”

  147. @ Mary & all,
    Here is what Mary posted re. Israel and the BBC:-
    “It all began with a letter from Israeli government spokesperson, Mark Regev, to the Director of the BBC’s Bureau in Israel, Paul Danahar. Regev asked why the BBC had failed to list Israel’s capital on its online Olympic profile for the country, but had named the capital of all other countries and ‘non-country’ (by which we presume he meant Palestine, which had East Jerusalem listed as its capital). The BBC made an immediate change to its webpage, adding Jerusalem to Israel’s country profile as its ‘seat of government’. Not ‘West Jerusalem’, but ‘Jerusalem’. Changes were also made to the Palestinian page. The actual capital of Israel – Tel Aviv – received no mention whatsoever.”
    Now, read this from Mitt Romney’s speech in Israel today:-
    “It is a deeply moving experience to be in Jerusalem, the capital of Israel.”
    So – you see Mary – there is not just a media accomodati0n from the BBC on Jerusalem, but there is a total intended accommodation from the presidential hopeful Mitt – who effectively warns what he has in store for the Palestinians relative to the 1967 borders.
    I also found it quite ironic when I listened to this part of Mittt’s speech:-
    “It would be foolish not to take Iran’s leaders at their word. They are, after all, the product of a radical theocracy.”
    So if Iran is a theocracy – what is Israel to be classified as if one were to be honest:-
    1. The land of Israel ( formerly Palestine) was bequeathed to Jewish people by God’s will. As Romney expressed this thought, he said:-
    “To step foot into Israel is to step foot into a nation that began with an ancient promise made in this land.”
    God’s promise land – of course.
    2. East Jerusalem, as Mitt has informed us, is to be no more for the Palestinians; thus, international law and the 1967 borders become irrelevant, and again logically if God gave the Jewish people Israel then he must also have included East Jerusalem.
    3. There can be no equality in Israel based on the concept of equality before the law and the electoral principle of – one person – one vote. If that were to be upheld under a secular Constitution and with free and fair elections for all then the Palestinian component in the state of Israel would be afforded a parliamentary voice that would reflect the aspirations of that section of the population. Thus, one people under God within Israel – and the disenfranchisement of the Palestinians is the order of the day. The element of racism in this cannot easily be obscured or lost – is it only Israelis of Jewish descent who have equal rights – or equal rights are extended to all Israeli citizens?
    4. The Zionists from 1948 dislodges some 700,000 Palestinians; reduce the size of Palestine continually over the years; build an Apartheid wall; divide up the remaining Palestinian lands into de facto Bantustans and make the likelihood of a two state solution unachievable; expand beyond the 1967 borders recognised under international law; have a group of fanatics within Israel who justify all the foregoing on the basis of theology – then see no accuracy or factual description that would make these events aptly deserve the label of “radical theocracy”?
    5. Albeit alluding to the 4 points above – no less a publication than the Jerusalem Post accurately identifies the nature of the demographic and political problem:-

    http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=218125
    I can see huge problems looming if Romney is elected in November with his policy position on Israel in mind for implementation. Obama is no saint, and neither is he a special friend of the Palestinian people – nor has he been a fraction of what he stated he would be when he was seeking the office of President on a ticket of “hope” and “change”. More like “despair” and “degeneration” as the reality on the ground exists today in America for the majority of ordinary Americans. But with Romney and the prospect of a war with Iran – no doubt to uphold Jerusalem as the capital and move the American Embassy to East Jerusalem*, as he has implied, gives us not so much the inverse of Obama – just a more right wing radical version of the same belligerent and failed policies on the Palestinian question and on Middle Eastern policy in general.
    Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose – and the wars go on.
    • Subject to correction – no American President since 1948 has taken this position or publicly expressed this idea that Jerusalem in its totality belongs to Israel?

  148. Here, OT, but interesting points made by a russian media. The article claims that during a recent visit of Putin to Israel, israeli warlords made it clear that they support rebels in Syria because the war will weaken Assad’s regime and makes it possible for Israel to attack Iran.
    You may try google translate it.
    http://kp.ru/daily/25923/2874568/

  149. not Bono/Geldhof this time, but Becks, and no chance anything will actually be done to alleviate child hunger:

    26 July: BBC: David Beckham discusses global hunger plan with PM
    David Beckham has met Prime Minister David Cameron to urge the UK to ensure child hunger remains a global priority.
    The ex-England footballer and Unicef ambassador gave Mr Cameron a letter, calling on him to lead the way.
    The UK is to host a “hunger summit” on the final day of the Olympics, hoping to use the global sporting event as a catalyst for progress on the issue…
    During their meeting at Downing Street, Mr Beckham handed the prime minister a letter signed by 50 sports and film stars, urging him to “pick up the pace” on the issue and keep child hunger at the top of the global agenda…
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19004101

  150. Looked up mormonism, for Romney.

    Made me realise religion is natures way of destructing
    Our systems of survival.

    move away amd be free.

  151. Thanks Courtenay for your elucidation, clear and concise as ever, if that is not patronising.
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    Also Oddie. Becks is ‘owned’ by Anschutz amongst many other ‘properties’.
    .
    I see that the O2 has been renamed the North Greenwich Arena for the Oympics gymnastics etc. Nice little earner for LOCOG’s friends in AEG (Anschutz Entertainment Group) who got hold of O2 on a long term lease after the NuLabour fiasco. Remember the Millennium do with Cherie doing a good impression of a letterbox and the Queen looking really uncomfortable?
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    http://www.london2012.com/venue/north-greenwich-arena/
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    {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_O2_(London)}
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    {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Anschutz}
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    Miserable looking cove in spite of the $5 billion. {http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/10/billionaires-2009-richest-people_Philip-Anschutz_DSAK.html}

  152. @komodo “Neither the “stars”, nor what looked like a majority of the extras were white (as, I perhaps should remind my critics, the majority even now of the English population is) , and there was rather a lot of shite ghetto “music”, which IMO is not British culture”

    ….for all your apparent enlightness, your still confusing Englishness and Britishness and thinking they are one and the same. Come now, it really isnt that complicated.

    This ceremony was really about London and Englishness to be honest though – no real Celtic element,Celtic languages or history/culture to be seen or heard – i suppose they are called the London olympics after all: maybe it would have been a bit more genuine to call them ‘The Victorian empire opening ceremony’ ?
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    I’m not sure I see your point. The majority of the English population is white. An even larger majority of the British population is white, but I didn’t mention it. If Englishness is now to be defined as embracing in their entirety a random selection of immigrant “cultures”, including a second-hand version of LA’s gang mentality, well, that’s your p.o.v. maybe, but it isn’t mine. London’s always been a melting-pot, like any big port city (and I remember when it WAS a port city), but the movement has always been away from the immigrant areas, accompanied by assimilation. The communities concerned (Jewish, Caribbean, Indian, etc) have always been free to enjoy their own cultural modes, and that’s understood. But why do I have to subscribe to them? Do they even want me to?

  153. Or, to put it more succinctly, is gangsta rap specifically part of English culture? If yes, it is automatically part of British culture. If no, let us for god’s sake use our musical talents to produce something better to supplant it utterly.

  154. Wendy – Dreadful headline on this link but it shows the segment you refer to. I think that the lighting gave the effect of the colour orange. Sick anyway.
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    Sunday, July 29th, 2012
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    Revealed: BBC1 Shows the Olympic Memorial to Victims of Islamic Terrorism NBC Refused to Show
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    http://www.videotruffle.com/2012/07/29/revealed-bbc1-shows-the-olympic-memorial-to-islamic-terrorism-nbc-refused-to-show/
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    Off out now but I will put up some links about 7/7 later today.

  155. Just to get away for a minute from the wall to wall coverage of the London Olympics, its Zionist creators have come under the cosh from a delegation of UK lawyers, including former attorney general, Baroness Patricia Scotland. The report, to the UN, is about the way Israeli Police and Soldiers make night arrests and torture Palestinian children.
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    http://www.childreninmilitarycustody.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Children_in_Military_Custody_Full_Report.pdf

  156. Komodo:
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    I’m not particularly up on the U.K hiphop scene (it’s a pretty localised style, much like aussie hiphop is), but the few acts I have listened to, remind me a lot of the aussie style. Both aussie and UK acts have a much more down to earth style, rapping about everyday life that most people would know.
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    If I were English, I would be proud to claim Braintax, Roots Manuva, The Herbaliser or Dubbledge as part of my culture. If you expand the scope a little you can easily add Massive Attack and Portishead to that list.

  157. Oh and I forgot The Streets.

  158. Cheebacow – there are those, and on a bad day I am one of them, who would consign everything post- Who (or even a time slightly pre-Britten) – to the bucket marked “Ephemera”. The ornate chest inscribed “Culture” should contain only material which has stood the test of time, and preferably the death of its creator. And the drawer marked “English Culture” in there should not contain Afro drumz-n-rantz about which there is nothing English whatever. Even if it is great to fade out to as you draw deeply on the bong.

  159. ‘Newspaper Uses Photoshop To Make Syria Look Even Worse Somehow’
    gizmodo.com/5929952/newspaper-uses-photoshop-to-make-syria-even-worse-somehow
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    From Kronen Zeitung

  160. “Britain’s for the British mate, back to the days
    Of the Empire state when Britannia ruled the waves
    But the slaves are coming back home to roost
    Welcomed by immigration officers with shiny boots
    And they want it so bad that they’re running
    Through the channel tunnel barefoot
    Fuck it mate, cheap labour, work late
    Plus they gave the BNP a brand new target to hate
    So the refugee took the heat off me”
    - Dubbledge

  161. In the interests of an alternative view, here’s someone whose take on the opening ceremony differed from Technicolor’s…
    I have to admire the subtlety of the political message. It posited 1948 as the turning point in British society. At that moment, we reward ourselves for inventing industrialism and saving democracy by giving ourselves an entitlement to care from cradle to grave. At the same moment, the Empire Windrush arrives with the immigrants who will do the work which we now feel is beneath us. We spend the next 54 years entertaining ourselves with pop music and films and comedy instead of working, while still being in thrall to an establishment personified by the royals and the Archbishop of Canterbury (looking fidgety in the VIP box).

    We then finally lose our grip completely and fall into a pit of internet addiction, where everyone’s attention span is so diminished that we demand an ever shorter series of blipverts. This vision is then cemented by a parade of narcissistic youth carrying video cameras, many of them pointed at themselves. The revolution will not be televised, because it won’t happen; we’ll all be too busy updating our Facebook pages.
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    (Guardian reader, Letters, today)

  162. R4 this morning features a lengthy representation on torture.
    Who would have known, there are two forms of torture, so they tell us. One is aggressive and is done by dictatorial states and then there is ‘good torture’ against terrorists.

    I have never heard so much cR4ap in my life, whatever next good and bad nuclear weapons?

    Craig made his points well, but I bet it was edited about throughout.

  163. Never heard of them, Cheeba. Look, the definition of a nation is that its inhabitants have stuff in common. Not a hotchpotch of miscellaneous styles. And the standard of English betrayed by the above is abysmal.

  164. I thought you were pulling my leg before. Your idea of British culture strikes me as stale… Is India a nation? a culture? How about Australia?
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    I guess Dubbledge forgot how pure the English language is =P

  165. India? Good question. Before partition, an even better one. Australia? Dunno. They seem to have created a common identity to me. Your point?
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    Legpull? Actually, I just get sick of the uniform PC reflex-Left which predominates here. I’d like people to think about the issues raised by the uniform xenophobe reflex-Right….which are not necessarily invalid.

  166. Komodo, you’re not Canspeccy back in another disguise, are you?
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    “One is aggressive and is done by dictatorial states and then there is ‘good torture’ against terrorists.”
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    Jesus Christ, that’s going out on BBC Radio 4? Shame on them.

  167. Komodo you said “Look, the definition of a nation is that its inhabitants have stuff in common. Not a hotchpotch of miscellaneous styles.”
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    My point was that I would argue that both Australia and India both combine many styles and cultures into something unique and their own. The artists I listed before all rap about everyday life living in the UK, if that isn’t an expression of British culture, I don’t know what is.
    .
    “gangsta rap”, “Afro drumz-n-rantz”, “draw deeply on the bong”, can komodos hear dog whistles?

  168. @CheebaCow + komodo – You totally and amazingly miss the simple point i was making about your own lack of awareness. I was pointing out to komodo that he confuses and interchanges Englishness for Britishness – they are not one and the same. Britain is an island of three different countries/nations,.

    In 2012,does it really need to be explained that Britain is made up of three countries/nations;England,Wales and Scotland? And surely its not too much to comprehend that ‘English’ is not interchangable with ‘British’and does not represent the other countries of Britain?

    On the same kind of theme – this opening ceremony was slightly deceiving as it claimed to represent Britain but only gave Scotland, Wales and Celtic culture about one minute of coverage in its full 5 hours. These are Englands, if not Londons olympics really – nothing wrong with that but the organisers of this ceremony especially to claim otherwise is disingenious.

    In essence of course they are not even Englands or Londons but the games of the bankers and special interest groups-and,as Craig mentions,we are all paying for it.

  169. Olympic Alert
    http://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers.php?showme=1319&
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    It’s not really that funny though when you know what is going on in this ‘country’ of ours.

  170. Cheeba – These concerns are real. Pretending that only evil people hold them does not make them less real. Dog-whistle phrases? No more so than the basic assumption that anyone who describes and values his nation differently from you is a fascist. I rather like “Afro drumz ‘n rantz” as a phrase. Concise, and synoptic description of a variety of musical maladies. I shall use it again. And I’ve probably done more dope than you have*, so that aligns me with the Caribbeans and Indians, doesn’t it?
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    Chris J. I certainly missed your point if you were saying that the ceremony wasn’t very British: as an ex-member of the SNP I found this too obvious to comment on from that standpoint, but chose another. But it goes rather to the heart of another matter: why are the Games awarded to cities and not countries? Many questions arise.
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    *in my youth

  171. Did the ‘organisers’ have the permission of each of the victims of the 7/7 false flag to project on the ‘wall’? And why were images of Coe’s father and Danny’s dad thrown up as well. Schmaltz.

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    I remember how the three trains and the only bus that was diverted were blown up the day after that psychopath Bliar ‘clinched the games’. There must be a connection. Was he not in Gleneagles that day? Had he been beamed from Singapore to Scotland in 12 hours? Anyone heard of that male ballet dancer from Cambridge who was injured in one of tube trains and who stated the explosion blew the floor UPWARDS. Nice and brave fellow. Was he at Baroness Hallett’s inquest? Is it true that 48 never had a post-mortem? These questions have more import than the circus.

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    NO Post mortems were performed on the victims of 7/7. All completely illegal. When I Googled post mortems’ of 7/7 victims. This is the first that came up
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    http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2011/02/28/77-london-bombings-morgue-prepared-in-advance-no-post-mortems-had-been-performed-on-the-dead/

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    It appears to be very well researched, and is utterly shocking.

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    See { http://77inquests.blogspot.com/2011/02/colonel-mahoney-in-porton-down-with.html}
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    and the picture of the mortuary – the ‘Resilience’ bit. See the size of it – erected in the 24 hours immediately after the bombings. 52 bodies could have been accommodated in about five London hospitals and relatives would have been able to see their loved ones fairly promptly and not after seven or ten days. Note that at least some were not given the bodies.

    .

    The media is using mega/giga watts and millions of live and recorded broadcasts to din this damned stuff into the millions sitting watching it. That media will continue to make sure that the circus dominates whilst the deepest evil flows silently by. The carcase of the UK stinks. The circus, the lights, the bloody fireworks, the ‘Queen’, and all the rest of the giant illusion will not erase it.

  172. technicolour

    30 Jul, 2012 - 1:46 pm

    Whenever I hear the word white, I look out of my window and see a lot of vaguely pink people. But pink and brown doesnt sound quite as dramatically divisive, or judgemental as black and white, does it.

    Marvellous to conflate all the people with more melatonin with rap music. Worthy of a high court judge.

    Otherwise, what concerns does Komodo have, I wonder, that are shared by evil (sic) people. What are these issues we should address.

    (apologies for lack of apostrophes and question marks, on someone elses computer which seems to have lost all punctuation)

    English as a language is a hotchpotch itself of course.

  173. Blair was certainly at Gleneagles when 7/7 happened. But he’d been there a day or so. He was helicoptered out again sharpish to Leuchars. He’d previously arrived in Singapore on Sunday 3rd, and is not reported as having been there on the 6th.

  174. ‘If you commit a crime here you will be forensically tagged.’
    Signs have gone up in my street with this announcement.
    What does that mean exactly? You get a chip injected behind your ears like a sheep? Is that legal?
    ‘For those who have no shame let them do whatever they like.’
    Hadeeth of my prophet May Allah’s blessings and peace be upon him.
    i.e. their case will be dealt with by Allah because they refuse to listen to human beings.

  175. Judgemental? WTF are you on about? All I want is an identifiably British society instead of the rich panoply of conflicting interests and blind spots we have at the moment. I don’t care what anyone’s fucking colour is. If I walk through my nearest small town and 50% of the pedestrians there are talking Polish, there’s something badly wrong with national identity.
    .
    Yes, English is a mixture (like most languages). Cue taxpayer funded support for people who can’t be arsed learning it and using it correctly, eh?

  176. I’ll qualify that: if I see a vast and expensive ceremony purporting to depict the state of affairs pre-1900 in Britain/England/London, I DO care if half the actors playing industrialists are black/Chinese/Indian because that was simply not the case. Unfortunately, it is true now. See bloody Mittal.

  177. “I DO care if half the actors playing industrialists are black/Chinese/Indian”
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    They weren’t “actors”, they were voluteers, weren’t they. And in London in 2012, that’s what one would expect them to be – black/Chinese/Indian etc etc. So what?

  178. yeh bro wo’evva.

  179. “Dreadful headline on this link but it shows the segment you refer to. I think that the lighting gave the effect of the colour orange.”
    .
    Very hard to interpret that dance, done during Abide with Me. Was the male dancer welcoming the boy, or enticing him, into the group? It’s not at all clear. And the harsh orange light could have been anything – including global warming. The dancers certainly looked like they were writhing in something, like heat.

  180. Mary , watch the ripple effect.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7PQG5weeHk
    There is much about 7/7 that just does not add up.
    The guy who made this film was imprisoned for around 6 months before finally being freed. His crime, he was curious because the traíns that they said the bombers took from Luton were cancelled that day.
    Well worth a watch.

  181. The ticket fiasco, or the tickets which were never sold, or the tickets which went to the corporates just because they sponsored the events, which is it?
    ,
    The rows of empty seats, that are seating the army personnel turned security guards (now the poor sods are ordered to watch the events and cheer too, in their off time), are far too evident to be swept under the carpet, hence the furore.
    ,
    Fact that prior to the games starting the world was witnessing the military preparations, that included the anti aircraft missiles, and howitzers, and destroyers, and helicopter gunships, and fast fighter jest getting ready to defend the ol impics. This may have somewhat dampened the appetite of the Johnny Foreigner, who has access to Internet and can watch the welcoming Londoners doing their party piece on Youtube about “my Briwtain is fuakk all now” rendition along with the bemused baby who is all too familiar with the outburst and language to care for his screaming mother’s rants.
    ,
    That is in addition to the welcoming immigration staff in the various airports, certainly would put off most of Johnny Forefingers mates, and neighbours to even contemplate to come to London to be “meeted and greeted”, all the while falling prey to the greedy landlords for the privilege of getting abused and made hanging around by the elaborate security arrangements.
    ,
    Further, given that these days any function of any importance or for that matter no importance at all, needs the security clearance for the attendees, then selling the tickets to the un-vetted Joe Public is a non flier too, needles to point out that the empty seats are an elegant and inevitable subsequence of prating around and jerking around the people at large whom en mass have voted with their feet.
    ,
    However, the ensuing hullabaloo about the most private ol impics ever to be held in the history of the games, has now compelled the organizers to rush and find bodies to shove into the seats, and the promotional vox pops aplenty of the loud mouth middle aged and over weight females all intent on getting tickets, which were apparently all sold out, and if only they could they would buy a ticket at any cost stories.
    ,
    The question remaining will there be enough bodies found in time to play spectators, and is there a push for the job clubs to send the job seekers to go and watch the games and wave flags and clap and whistle as instructed by their job club team leaders?
    ,
    Finally the puzzle of the day is;
    Spain has a rate of 0.4 percent attrition/contraction/gone up in smoke rate in her economy, and also sports a 25 percent rate of unemployment.
    ,
    UK on the other hand has a rate of 0.7 percent attrition/contraction/gone up in smoke rate in her economy, with only a single digit rate of unemployment.
    ,
    Therefore proving that the proposition of the worst the depression the less the unemployment holds true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????
    ,
    Hence:
    Up yours Spaniards!!

  182. technicolour

    30 Jul, 2012 - 2:59 pm

    Komodo, I love people who want quote an identifiably British culture unquote. I imagine they have a little list. Strangely they are often good at throwing around fabricated statistics (50 percent speaking Polish, really) too.

    And yet it seems you would have preferred these Polish speakers to the British volunteers of various hues, since at least they would have had the inverted commas right skin colour. Very odd.

    Its pretty clear wtf I was on about. Its also pretty clear wtf you are on about. Being British means being white (sic) not playing horrible rap music and speaking English like what she is meant to be spoke. Classy.

  183. Well, I agree with you about the ticket fiasco.
    My brother in London applied to several venues for his family of four to a total of £6K+, thinking he would at least get to see one event. He didn’t get any seats. He applied again at the second release, once more with no luck. Totally fed up with the process he is now on a beach in Sardinia with the family -

  184. Radio 4 “good torture” vs “bad torture”…
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    Cant help but remember this:
    .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNs2mOkKzc

  185. Komodo, I think you have betrayed yourself as an old curmudgeon. I’m in my late 40′s and love the music of Roots Manuva. He’s a rap artist with a sense of irony and a completely British sensibility and great tunes.

  186. However, about that £150 cost:

    I thought watching the Queen apparantly parachute into the Stadium to the Bond theme was brilliant. Irreverent, anti-authoritarian, and very funny, uniting the nation in a real laugh, well worth £20.

    My mother, an Essex girl remembers when Stratford was a dump, literally. The transformation is surely worth another £30.

    Seeing women finally “allowed” to represent their own country in sport – well, I would have paid more, but a bargain at another £20.

    Lauding our NHS and its workers, with publicity for the GOSH, worth another £30.

    Having the ParaOlympians fully included in pre-Games build up, fabulous, worth £20 in anyone’s money.

    And then having those fantastic buildings ready for further sporting events, I think a bargain at £30.

    Uniting MOST of the nation in hopes and fears and thrills and even boredome – proceless.

    Uniting the world for a few minutes – priceless.

    Having a commentator here suspect some conspiracy because on the whole and with some reservations I am pro-Olympics – priceless.

  187. @komodo Chris “I certainly missed your point if you were saying that the ceremony wasn’t very British: as an ex-member of the SNP I found this too obvious to comment on from that standpoint”.
    .
    “All I want is an identifiably British society”

    ..err no,what i was saying was that the ceremony didnt represent all the three countries of Britain (Northern Ireland arent technically in ‘Great Britain’), not that it wasnt ‘British’. You would be better off looking for an identifiable English,Welsh or Scottish society first before making it really challenging and extending it to a society that is simmilar accross the island and countries of Britain – we do share common cultures and themes of course but then again so does France and England, New Zeland and Australia,Russia and the USA.
    .
    Its an interesting point you raise about cities being nominated and not countries though – highly linked to corporate city states i would suggest. I also agree that it looked highly contrived and forced turn the industrial revolution scenes in to a highly unrealistic ‘multicultural’ fest as well. Historically inaccurate is probably the best description.

  188. Personally I can’t see past King Tubby, Clanger. :-) I was just enjoying (?) the kneejerk responses.

  189. KingofWelshNoir

    30 Jul, 2012 - 4:13 pm

    Mary
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    Tom Secker is good on 7/7
    .
    http://www.investigatingtheterror.com

  190. Now I really, really shouldn’t rise to NI not being British except to comment that you’ve made the CIRA very happy there, Chris. But if you want an instance of where multiculti can lead, I believe (London)Derry is a good place to see it.
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    *shitstirring smiley*

  191. Cultural Marxism and the degradation of society.

    How we are entertained depends on our level of social integrity.

    How wonderful music , drama and dance.
    Bitch…

  192. Komodo, what’s up, O Lizard One? First, you seemed irritated with something I wrote (which wasn’t meant to irritate), then you come out with all this stuff about Poles, Indians and so on.
    .
    Personally, I don’t like much hip-hop music and to some extent I think it’s used by the powers that be in the arts, etc. to ghettoise/control and be tokenistic towards certain groups (as is the ‘black pimp/gangsta’ image that sometimes goes with it and against which Malcolm X, who once had been a pimp, railed) – believe me, I’ve seen this process happen – but I recognise that lots of people do like it and identify with it in the way the one can with music. I also recognise that like most art-forms, it is polyvalent, it has multiple referents and you know, some/many art-forms have both empowering and limiting dynamics – they don’t always align tightly with politics or political orientation. Read Robin Denselow on this, for example. I didn’t see most of the ceremony, of course!

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Denselow
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    Like punk music, in Britain, it is thoroughly British (and in France, it is thoroughly French and in Palestine, it is thoroughly Palestinian). It doesn’t stop us all enjoying and celebrating Benjamin Britten, Italian Opera (eg. as three weeks ago, in a Covent Garden open square, iterated by a soprano from Paisley, Scotland), Morris Dancing, Northumbrian pipes, the clarsach or The Who, if we so wish. Like Eric Clapton’s music, and like the whole of rock and jazz music, The Who’s music was based on Black American music (which already had merged with Celtic music wrt gospel and ‘Latin’ music too, with lots of Arabic/North African rhythms – red Ted Gioia on the history of jazz.
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    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gioia
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    Get some fresh water, lie in the sun. Simply, be.

  193. Now now Komodo. I dont want to get too much off the Olympic topic but technically Northern Ireland isnt a part of ‘Great Britain’ but can be part of the Olympic team GB. However they are still part of the UK….Confusing? yes. But whatever the case they were still represented …with about 30 seconds of children standing on the rocky Northern Irish shore singing – thats it. Same goes for Wales and Scotland.

    On a brighter note, the womens beach volleyball was excellent

  194. This link should probably be on the previous post (torture) but as he was instrumental in landing us with these Limp Ics, I am putting it here. It is the latest alert from the Medialens Editors.
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    The Return Of The King – Tony Blair And The Magically Disappearing Blood
    By David Cromwell
    http://bit.ly/MfhMM5

    .
    I have just been looking at the RIO website. Same old. Same old. Different location. Almost the same gangsters.
    .
    The Worldwide Olympic Partners who support the Rio 2016™ Olympic Games and the National Olympic Committees around the world are Coca-Cola, Atos, Dow, GE, McDonald’s, Omega, Panasonic, Procter and Gamble, Samsung and Visa.
    {http://www.rio2016.org/en/news/news/rio-2016-announces-nissan-as-automotive-sponsor-of-the-olympic-games-in-rio}

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