Glenn Greenwald

by craig on August 23, 2012 8:12 am in Uncategorized

Glenn Greenwald has joined the Guardian from Salon. His first article is an absolute corker. I don’t think this means he has moved to London, (though I may be wrong) as it is part of the Guardian’s drive to get more online US readers. I expect it won’t be too long before Greenwald, like Seumas Milne, becomes the target of dreadful in-house backstabbing and Blairite attempts to oust him.

But wherever he writes, Greenwald is one of the few journalists really worth following.

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  1. Interesting that Joan Smith is on his list of those in the media with an animus for Julian Assange.

    [..]
    ‘Indeed, the personalized nature of this contempt from self-styled sober journalists often borders on the creepy (when it’s not wildly transgressing that border).
    [..]
    A columnist for the Independent, Joan Smith, recently watched Assange’s interview of Ecuadorean president Rafeal Correa and offered up this wisdom: “He’s put on weight, his face is puffy and he didn’t bother to shave before his interview with Correa.”‘
    [..]

  2. The first of many who don’t like it up ‘em. They should just keep quiet but they have to keep babbling on Twitter.

    Peter Beaumont Guardian

    1) peter beaumontþ@petersbeaumont
    another column in the guardian by greenwald telling guardian reporters like me – as well as rest of media – just how crap we all are.

    2) peter beaumontþ@petersbeaumont
    I promised myself I wasn’t going to do this but I reject the assertion of a sucesion of writers in CiF that to believe in human rights …

    3) peter beaumontþ@petersbeaumont
    … in Russia and Syria – or to ask whether Assange should face his accusers in Sweden – is imperialist hypocrisy.

  3. I doubt Glen Greenwald will survive at the Guardian if he continues to produce such un-PC pieces…..possibly Rusbridger thought Glen would be good for his developing online US market….but they will not play well with the Guardian’s newest financial backers……….

  4. As far I know, Greenwald and his partner still live in Rio de Janeio because the US government refused his partner a long-term visa for the US whereas Greenwald managed quite easily to obtain one for Brazil.

    Apart from that, Glenn’s first article for The Guardian is absolutely brilliant – he’s already got some of his new colleagues over there foaming at the mouth. :)

  5. Following the money:
    http://wikileaks.org/cable/2006/01/06ATHENS131.html

    Kindly note the major investor in the (2006, lol) thriving and attractive Greek economy – Apax.
    Which owns half of GMG.

  6. Hey, Criag, on a separate matter you can see how comfortable Karimov is with the West at the moment if Gulnara is seizing Russian JV’s (MTS).

    Best regards

    Gary

  7. Why dont the Unions start their own newspaper? the guardian and their kind will soon be out of business

  8. CiF comments closed: some obviously orchestrated posts there, and not a few deletions. Comments are still open for this reasonably sensible piece:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/23/women-against-rape-julian-assange?INTCMP=SRCH

    Whether or not Assange is guilty of sexual violence, we do not believe that is why he is being pursued. Once again women’s fury and frustration at the prevalence of rape and other violence, is being used by politicians to advance their own purposes. The authorities care so little about violence against women that they manipulate rape allegations at will, usually to increase their powers, this time to facilitate Assange’s extradition or even rendition to the US. That the US has not presented a demand for his extradition at this stage is no guarantee that they won’t do so once he is in Sweden, and that he will not be tortured as Bradley Manning and many others, women and men, have. Women Against Rape cannot ignore this threat.

    In over 30 years working with thousands of rape victims who are seeking asylum from rape and other forms of torture, we have met nothing but obstruction from British governments. Time after time, they have accused women of lying and deported them with no concern for their safety. We are currently working with three women who were raped again after having been deported – one of them is now destitute, struggling to survive with the child she conceived from the rape; the other managed to return to Britain and won the right to stay, and one of them won compensation.

  9. You’re right – it’s an absolute corker! :-)

  10. Greenwald remains unbreakable.
    .
    It’s hard to fathom what has happened to people’s brains.
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    We have:
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    Right-wing ideologues suddenly becoming ardent defenders of rape victims.
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    Dyed-in-the-wool Guardian readers identifying the ‘progressive’ position as being to denounce Julian Assange as a cowardly justice-dodging rapist.
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    Endless ad hominem attacks on Julian Assange.
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    Smearing of those who try to contextualize the story (like Craig, Pilger, Milne this morning) as being about Wikileaks’ publishing and US fury at him, rather than the personality and the possible misdeeds of Assange being summarily denounced as enemies of women everywhere.
    .
    A plethora of what look like paid-for commenters, too, posters with no account history. Just like that CE cretin here yesterday.
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    It’s a brilliant propaganda effort in terms of keeping the discussion of US crimes off the agenda.
    .
    All we can do is take the names of all those columnists who have played their hand.

  11. Martha Kearney interviews Karin Rosander, Director of Communications for the Swedish Prosecution Authority
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    http://audioboo.fm/boos/928311-swedish-prosecution-authority-on-julian-assange-case-the-world-at-one-bbc-radio-4

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    Karin Rosander says the Swedish prosecutor demands Assange be interviewed in Sweden but has not given any reason as to why.
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    So anyone claiming that Swedish law says Assange can only be interviewed in Sweden
    is wrong.

  12. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/22/julian-assange-media-contempt?commentpage=13

    Comments on this page are now closed.

    Naturellement.

    PS However Greenwald, Milne et al are still taking the Rusbridger shilling.

  13. @mary
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    Yes. I am bemused that the very newspaper that courted Wikileaks/JA and is now acting like a spurned lover, is the place that Greenwald has chosen as his new home.
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    He has always said that being free from editorial interference is his be-all and end-all, but by that logic he could go and write for the Pentagon. He doesn’t seem able to grasp that he will be tarred by the scumbags writing for The Guardian and by Establishment apologists like Rusbridger and White. At Salon, the other writers were not so much of an issue, as they basically wrote bog-standard progressive rubbish and lots of me-me-me journalism.

  14. I suspect it’s all about the money KingFelix. He has a lot of outgoings.

    “A couple of years ago, I started realising one of the themes that tied together so much of what I was writing about is this concept of this two-tiered justice system, and the way the whole concept of equality before the law has been not just violated but actually repudiated,” says Greenwald. He is on a Skype call from his home in the mountains above Rio de Janeiro, where he lives with his husband and 10 dogs, which they keep rescuing from the streets. These dogs’ barks, snarls, whines and whimpers are set off by the slightest provocation – a passing car usually does the trick – providing a backdrop to our conversation.
    http://www.listener.co.nz/culture/books/glenn-greenwald-interview/

    and a home in New York to keep up.

  15. @mary
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    He’s also had a number of bestsellers and lots of speaking engagements.
    .
    Do you think The Guardian is in a position to pay any sort of big money?

  16. Some more emollient balm from the US? C&P’d by everyone today…
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/08/22/uk-wikileaks-assange-usa-idUKBRE87L13420120822

    PJ Crowley is probably worth paying attention to -P.J. Crowley, said that by taking refuge in Ecuador’s embassy and demanding that the United States “renounce its witch-hunt” against WikiLeaks, Assange made it more difficult for Washington to abandon what officials acknowledge is a continuing U.S. probe of Assange and WikiLeaks.

    Crowley said that Assange, in a speech on Saturday from an embassy balcony, had “challenged the president” to close down the investigation. But Assange’s demand made it politically more difficult for President Barack Obama to do that, particularly during a presidential election season, he said.

    Assange has “painted himself into a corner and he’s going to stay there for some time,” said Crowley, who resigned after criticizing the government’s treatment of alleged WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning..

    And see – {http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/11/bradley-manning-clinton-crowley-comments}

  17. I think the Guardian is in deep financial poo. NI is threatening to launch an internet rival to Auto Trader, GMG’s other flagship, and the actuality – that the Grauniad needs readers – is slowly beginning to sink in. And what do readers mean? Celebrity journos, apparently. Look forward to seeing Boris Johnson and the ghost of Gore Vidal costarring. It won’t change the biased management of CiF one bit.

  18. Agreed an excellent piece of journalism and the Twatts, licked up by Mary, show that Mr beau mont did not put his spell checker on.

    2) peter beaumontþ@petersbeaumont
    I promised myself I wasn’t going to do this but I reject the assertion of a sucesion of writers in CiF that to believe in human rights.

    Its double cc and double ss in succession, peter.

  19. Assange was seeking to poke Obama with a sharp stick……..not to get Obama to actually take any advice……

  20. Komodo,

    Interesting, especially as we are constantly being told there is no US invstigation into Assange.

  21. sorry, should have been ‘picked up’, I’m as bad as him.

  22. Craig, that was last year. However I posted another link (yesterday, ‘Banned Names’ 8.07 pm) strongly supporting though not confirming the existence of an active investigation:
    http://darkernet.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/dfat-foi-1112-f264.pdf

    Pages 11 – 14.

  23. sorry – confused by hitting too many sites. Obviously, that wasn’t last year. My link was.

  24. My understanding is that the Guardian’s media plan is to try to have a large online presence in the USA. That involves recruiting commentators from the USA and a move to the right, which we are witnessing. They already hired neocon (Josh trevino, Jerome Trevino? My mind wiped his name immediately) who called for the IDF to assassinate US citizens on board aid convoy ships to Gaza. There was such a furore that they have obviously thought to “balance” this with Greenwald.

    This is, in my view, driven by their financial troubles. Taking a major US online market share would be very profitable. BTW did you find it hilarious that the animated guardian vids about “Life after Capitalism” were fronted by car ads?

  25. Great article. For ages I’d intended to subscribe to the digital edition of Salon, pretty much for Greenwald, but I’ve missed that boat, and there’s no ****ing chance I’ll be paying the Guardian any money. It’ll have to be a Greenwald book instead – any recommendations, anyone?

    @Larry Levin – the closest thing to a union paper is the Morning Star atm. The writing style isn’t as sharp or readable as Greenwald, and their front pages often appear to behind the MSM in terms of their recency, but they’ve a small team and their heart is in the right place. They can’t afford a nightshift operation like the big papers, and are boycotted by all the big advertisers, so rely a great deal on donations.

  26. Recite this at Doune for instant comedic success:

    Slipstream Song

    There is a grey lordling rules the earth
    A little angel, less than an angel,
    Presiding over the rising cities
    And all the slow webs of glinting cars
    And telephone-television pulses
    Which lace the fair air
    And men who scurry here and there
    Under it all, we people racing
    To make the last train,
    Desperately fending
    The new moment off
    Afraid if we stop.

    We hear the bright light, the blind light
    Ahead, falling over the edge,
    Our white desire; we may not stop to seek,
    But scurry, or tired, creep, and keep
    The rule of the lord, the corners of the street.
    But though we have no time to pause,
    Tumbling under his whip, we roll
    Towards his last border;
    Since we have music, sir, I go
    Dance with the drums, recking you not,
    Because I know.

    (Louise Mensch)

    Thanks to Private Eye for keeping its promise. I need some fresh air.

  27. This post from havana needs a response to the BBC, Gavin Essler should apologise, whether its in Spanish English or Gujarati, it is the BBC that has published ANNA ARDINS name before Craig mentioned it.

    Havana

    23 Aug, 2012 – 5:51 am

    You should let Gavin Estler know that her name was published on the BBC website itself, almost 18 months ago!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/mundo/cartas_desde_cuba/2011/02/no_es_para_menos.html

  28. “You should let Gavin Estler know that her name was published on the BBC website itself, almost 18 months ago!”

    I and others have already told him, on Twitter.

  29. Despite your reference to ‘twatts’, Nevermind, Gavin Esler, Jon Snow, Glenn Greenwald, BBC, Reuters, etc, etc, and ‘anybody who’s anybody’ nowadays, has a Twitter account. In fact, Alex Thomson said a lot more from Damascus via Twitter than made it onto Channel 4 News.
    And when Louise Mensch goes to the USA, I see no reason why she would shut hers down.

  30. @jon
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    There was never any need to subscribe to Salon to read Greenwald, that was only to get some sort of premium experience like less ads.
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    All his columns from the last 5 years are there to read.
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    http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/

  31. Goldie Barrwater

    23 Aug, 2012 - 12:27 pm

    Not sure I’m comfortable GG is lending credibility to that fascist rag. Has he read their news “reporting”? Ugh!

  32. Nevermind – and see el caso de Luis Yáñez, portavoz socialista de la Asamblea Parlamentaria Eurolatinoamericana y presidente de la Asociación Cuba-Europa en Progreso, que se ha manifestado crítico en varias ocasiones con el régimen cubano, al que se le ha impedido entrar Cuba junto a su mujer, la europarlamentaria Carmele Hermosín.

    Denied entry to Cuba, and member of la Asociación Cuba-Europa en Progreso…for which Ardin worked. In Cuba.

    Just an innocent lady spook, doing what lady spooks do….

  33. Sorry – link here for post awaiting moderation
    http://diegoarmario.wordpress.com/category/internacional/page/3/

  34. It was indeed a terrific article, laced with, I thought, a certain anger. He won’t be getting invited to The Gruan xmas party, for sure. And his point about the personal, creepy attacks was nailed on perfect. I too have been wondering about the character assassinations and vitriol from supposedly progressive journalists, and have found it rather troubling how swiftly intelligent people descend into mob irrationality. They can’t all be CIA, surely?

  35. Please help me understand liberalism.
    With national socialism, communism, zionism, and conservatism, has liberalism got something that can unite and find common understanding and work as a system.
    What is the spark of liberalism that can do all good and deny bad.

    In a liberal new tomorrow can we affect people to the good side or is being liberal and liking drugs, abuse, violence, pleasure, pain, tardimess, vulgarness, selfishness, e.tc.

    How can we ever meet altruism for the common good.

  36. @kingfelix – indeed, but I feel that good journalism should be paid for… so long as the principles of the organ itself are sound. Paradoxically I’m not in favour of paywalls – perhaps more of an honesty-box policy?

  37. “But wherever he writes, Greenwald is one of the few journalists really worth following.”

    As are you Craig….

  38. Leonard Young

    23 Aug, 2012 - 12:53 pm

    Interesting that within minutes of that article (about the demonising of Assange by people and press)being published some reader comments below it were already comparing Assange to Hitler and describing him as a monster, thereby confirming the thrust of Greenwald’s piece!

    After nearly a decade of the liberal media expressing total mistrust of many western governments’ military and political policies, courts, police and legal process, suddenly everyone is telling us that those in power within the US, UK, Sweden and Australia are somehow respectful of fundamental rights and only Assange is in contempt of them.

    What a turnaround. This obsession with rape is all predicated on some facts that almost all the media studiously ignore or manipulate, those facts being:

    1. Assange was initally CLEARED of rape or misconduct and was free to go.

    2. The case was re-opened in an unprecedented way in circumstances that are extremely likely to have been based not on the alleged victim’s wishes, but the wishes of the Swedish prosecutors.

    3. The alleged victim published her own story and name to the press and the Swedish police leaked the case to the press; yet we are told by the BBC that revealing her name violates her rights.

    4. The alleged victim freely continued the relationship with Assange for SEVERAL DAYS after the alleged sexual misconduct happened. To say that some victims take time for things to “sink in” is, in this case, entirely implausible.

    5. Assange has not been charged formally with rape, but almost the entire media proceeds as though he had been.

    6. The USA has against all established international law already kidnapped or extradited many people, none of whom are US citizens, to its shores, claiming treason (you cannot commit treason against a country you do not reside in), and both Sweden and the UK are compliant with that abuse of international law.

    7. Therefore Assange has a legitimate concern that his rights to fairness and legal process is genuine. This could have been averted in one stroke by Sweden giving assurances that extradition will not result in another extradition to the US. That simple statement would defuse the whole situation but has not been offered.

    8. The so-called liberal media has caved into to its own principles by becoming entirely complicit in a case that stinks from top to bottom of duplicity and dishonesty, by refusing to report the proper facts and by encouraging the demonisation of a person who has done nothing more than expose war crimes and torture through wikileaks. Everything else he is accused of is hearsay, assumption, trial by media, and untested by any legal process.

    9. The Assange case is yet another example of whistleblowers being treated as though they, not those about whom they told the truth, are the guilty ones, and that habit is epidemic in this country, whether it involves diplomats, NHS professionals, or staff in local councils. THAT is what the press should be campaigning about. The BBC is at the top of the list of this appalling complacency.

  39. Dan Hodges is Glenda Jackson’s son. No doubt it is a heavy load to blair.
    Here’s someone who knows Hodges.
    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/mehdi-hasan/2011/10/dan-hodges-labour-miliband

    Lest we forget, here is a man who describes himself as a “neo-Blairite” and as the “Blairite cuckoo in the Miliband nest” but who has also written:

    As no one in the Labour Party appears willing to admit their part in the plot to bring down Tony Blair, I’ll cough. I was up to my neck in it.

    I briefed and span. Placed stories. Sowed seeds of confusion and dissent….

  40. A right little Judas then, Komodo.

  41. Excellent article. I particularly liked his dissection of the fip-flopping opinions of ‘legal expert’ David Allen Green.

    Glad also he bought to my attention Joan Smith’s review of Assange’s RT interview with Ecuador’s Correa , and her remarks about Assange’s unwholesome appearance thereon. People in glass houses…

  42. Hypocrisy grates me intensely enough to pull these paragraphs from the NewStatesman:

    On Equador media regulation attacks:

    “More discerning researchers will have already determined that the so-called “media crackdown” in Ecuador is the result of the introduction of a strong UK-style media regulation regime in Ecuador – where regulatory decisions on the use of spectrum have remained unenforced for years. In the UK, pirate radio stations are routinely raided by the police, and shut down. There it is called “regulation.” When a now twice reelected, popular-by-supermajority Latin American socialist government does it, it is “starkly dreadful and illiberal.” OFCOM’s banishment of Press TV – at a time when the US-UK axis is stoking hostility towards Iran – has been quickly forgotten.”

    On Equador human rights record Greenwald is strong:

    “Apparently, activists should only seek asylum from countries with pristine human rights records, whichever countries those might be: a newly concocted standard that was conspicuously missing during the saga of blind Chinese human rights activist Chen Guangcheng at the US embassy; I don’t recall any western media outlets accusing Guangcheng of hypocrisy for seeking refuge from a country that indefinitely imprisons people with no charges, attacked Iraq, assassinates its own citizens with no due process on the secret orders of the president, bombs funerals and rescuers in Pakistan, uses extreme force and mass arrests to try to obliterate the peaceful Occupy protest movement, wages an unprecedented war on whistleblowers, prosecutes its Muslim citizens for posting YouTube videos critical of US foreign policy, embraces and arms the world’s most oppressive regimes, and imprisoned Muslim journalists for years at Guantánamo and elsewhere with no charges of any kind.”

  43. I think the thirty pieces of silver are key, Giles.

  44. It’s actually Glenn’s third piece since formally joining the Guardian – his articles on Monday and Tuesday are just as well worth a read, but the Assange asylum bid is right in his specialty as a first amendment lawyer, and it really shows how undermatched the likes of David Allen Green are.

    Separately, the Glenn isn’t the only American they recently hired, they also signed up Josh Trevino. This little dose of satire sums up what a piece of work he is (worth also following the first link to get the extra background):

    http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2012/08/22/editor-admits-that-josh-trevino-just-hired-to-fill-tasteless-fascist-void/

  45. (in a hurry, have read only the last comment and jumped in yeeeehhhhhhaaaaa)

    Komodo

    You bastard Judas so openly state your price too, shame on you, have Lizards come to be infected with the banksters greed too, after biting one of them on the ass??????

    However on the subject of the price, what price Dr Freddy Patel was getting for all the years that he absolved the murdering bastards form their crimes?

    PS Yea Olde Lizardness, you know I was just joshing.

  46. Nice poster here based on Craig’s speech outside the embassy
    http://somersetbean.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/the-framing-of-dissidents-poster.html

  47. A reasonably balanced view of the issues regarding Assange from two activists from Women Against Rape in today’s Grauniad.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/23/women-against-rape-julian-assange?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038

    The comments on it are mixed (as you might expect) but there is a strong current of support for the article against those attacking it from the right.

  48. @komodo
    .
    Thanks for that. Love the Electronic Intifada.
    .
    Totally shabby episode from The Guardian, compounding the fact they should never have touched that guy.
    .
    Okay, I’m going to clean out the litter trays of seven cats, and it still won’t smell as bad as a Guardian editorial on Julian Assange.

  49. Good news time;

    the position of the government of South Africa is that it recognizes the borders of Israel as they were outlined by the United Nations in 1948, and does not recognize any changes made to the borders after that date.

    Here;
    -ttp://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/159185#.UDYuGyO1mBs

  50. For first time, U.S. State Department defines settler violence as terrorism

    In annual report on terrorism in foreign countries, U.S. government report defines so-called ‘price-tag’ attacks against Palestinians in the West Bank as acts of terror.

    http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/diplomania/for-first-time-u-s-state-department-defines-settler-violence-as-terrorism.premium-1.459087

  51. Assange: something’s stirring. AFP report, doesn’t seem to have been sufficiently anti-Assange for the Fourth Estate to have copied it into the pagesetter yet:

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gkRh8IhO7qWjjUQ61SqpmbqwdS1A?docId=CNG.392d5578e0e2c7d8a0f7efa54d2c061b.6c1

  52. @Komodo “Trevino. And the Guardian. And honesty. Uncomfortable neighbours.
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/dishonesty-deepens-guardian-demotes-joshua-trevino-hopes-we-wont-notice

    They’re bonkers to think we won’t notice. What kind of mentality does an editor have who thinks they can get away with such lies?

    In its style guide, the Guardian used to advise writers to avoid using the word “goy”, describing it as racist and comparing it (if I recall correctly) to “Paki” and “nigger”. Then all of a sudden they dropped all mention of the word in their style guide. The way they sometimes wring their hands in respect of Israel is just fake.

  53. The report was updated to acknowledge that the Grauniad had responded by saying that a mistake had occurred in the earlier press release, which had then been corrected. There had been no change in Trevino’s contract, it claimed. But if the “corrected” version described Trevino’s “downgraded” freelance status…he didn’t have a contract. Did he?

  54. I see Nick Cohen, is attacking Assange as well now. He really is follwoing in the insane footsteps of Mad Melanie Phillips.

  55. Fact, we support Julian Assange because he is a do gooder in the liberal do gooder sense?

    Its a term to be wholly proud of.

    I prefer censorship in society to protect the weak and the vulnerable.

    Now what?
    Filth and depravation
    Freedom and peace.
    You cant have both?

  56. Bert: It’s perfectly OK to say ‘goy’ (if you’re not one). I daresay CiFwatch cleared it with Rusbridger, and it came off the style guide blacklist…

    http://cifwatch.com/2011/08/25/the-goy-is-back-in-town-the-wonderful-return-of-chas-newkey-burden/

    CiFwatch; the Grauniad’s stylesetters.

  57. Here’s a REAL infringement of civil liberties:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2192257/A-masked-man-motorbike-chilling-brush-Surveillance-Britain.html

    WAAAAAAH! I double-parked, blocking a motorcycle bay, and got fined! They took a picture! Imagine!

    With journalists paid to write this kind of tosh is it any wonder the trade has been hopelessly debased?

  58. Komodo, intriguing AFP link. We watch and wait…

    That link refers to Assange as a “former hacker”. Part of the whole corporate media distortion is that hacking is nothing but breaking into computer systems. Hacking is about learning, particularly learning to program, and finding challenges fun, so I’m not sure how anyone would stop being a hacker, short of brainwashing or amnesia:

    http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html#what_is

  59. “I see Nick Cohen,”
    .
    nick cohen is interesting to read if you want to be forewarned of government / neo con strategy and political moves.
    .
    he pretty much went for the jugular out of the blue prior to presstv being banned.
    .
    as for unions setting up a paper .. tell me what good have they been over the last 30 or so years?
    .
    as for esler … the uk doesnt have independent presenters .. and very few (that is almost none) are willing as with celebs etc to stand up for justice and truth.

  60. “Why don’t the Unions start their own newspaper? the guardian and their kind will soon be out of business…”

    They did Larry, it was called the Daily Herald and for many years it was among the best selling tabloids. The TUC sold its shares to, as I recollect, the Mirror Group which turned in into a competitor of the Daily Express and the Daily Mail, a broadsheet which lasted a few years.
    They renamed it The Sun. And then Cecil King sold it to Murdoch. And that is what happened to the Trade Unions’ (and socialist movement’s) daily paper.

    Now would be a perfect time to start a new one, shaped, from the beginning to the exigencies and opportunities of the internet, and innocent of any of the burden of the old style printing operation.

    First there was Fleet Street, then there was Wapping and now there is the very real opportunity for an efficient, principled paper, not tied to advertisers, run by a new generation of libertarian communists. Such a title would offer honest news coverage as well as thoroughgoing criticism of the state, its imperial boss and all its evildoing.

  61. Clark – I think you could say he’s a hacker in the true sense of the word – though as he was convicted for his (ethical) incursions into several systems in 1995 – fined A$2,100 and lucky to get away with that- the media’s debasement of the term could also be justified. See:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange

  62. There’s another bit of Nacht und Nebel here: the consular assistance issue. Tomorrow (it’s now tomorrow Down Under) ABC reports that Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Bob Carr has “released a list” of the contacts his consular officials have had with Assange, on 62 claimed occasions.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-23/carr-reveals-timetable-of-consular-contact-with-assange/4218448

    On the other hand,today (23rd)

    “At no point in time have consular authorities visited Mr Assange and I understand that to be an obligation for citizens, for men and women in Australia, have the right to consular assistance and they should not have to request it,” Mr Garzon said.

    Clarification welcome.

  63. Komodo, thanks for that interesting AFP link, my imaginings are running riot, but I think I ought to keep my speculations to myself.

    Perhaps, Assange was not quite as reckless in his relationships as the authorities would want or expect him to be. After all, he was never ignorant of the underhand methods that could be used against him and Wikileaks.

    His appearance on the balcony was not that of a fearful man, on his own against the might of the world’s power players, and may suggest hidden trump cards.

  64. These comments have apparently been moved to a new thread entitled “On Being Angry and Dangerous”, and Craig’s old posting about the Glenn Greenwald piece appears to have disappeared, unless I am mistaken.

    Hopefully that is just a technical glitch that will be corrected.

  65. Journalists who criticise Assange for poor personal hygiene as if, even if true, that had any bearing on the merits of his fight against extradition should remember there was another man who was renowned for being smelly, yet later became the coolest man on the planet.

    Steve Jobs

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/24/steve_jobs_biography/

  66. Whoops. I posted the last comment on the wrong thread.

  67. Let me provide the URL for Glenn Greenwald’s piece today on Assange, so that people can access it in the interim before the old thread here on the piece is restored: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/22/julian-assange-media-contempt?commentpage=last#end-of-comments

  68. @ Leonard Young, what you say is how I think but you have articulated better than I could. Why is ths happening, the upside down, turning good into bad and vice versa? I am truly confused and it horrifies me. Do you know?

  69. This is funny ”George Galloway spanks Aaronovitch and the Arse with Three Cheeks”
    .
    1:35 minutes in.
    .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Wx7OC-Wo4&feature=related
    .
    Galloway says when he first meet Aaronovitch ”he was a was a communist… licking the backside of Stalin, he then worked for Tony Blair and now he works for Rupert Murdoch… ”
    .

  70. Greenwald makes a good general point about governments overruling judicial decisions to extradite.

    This was exactly the case in Argentina not so long ago when Cristina Kirchner decided to block the extradition of Galvarino Apablaza who is wanted in Chile for the murder of a senator in 1991.

    Something to remember the next time someone tells you that these sorts of things just don’t happen in today’s world.

  71. Unlike you, makes only opaque references to CIA involvement in fake Swedish rape allegations. You, on this other hand, came out and said the obvious and even named these Swedish stooges.

    You’re absolutely right: once in Swedish hands, Assange will be fitted for an orange jumpsuit and set to Gitmo.

    Why is Glenn dancing around this obvious fact?

  72. @Komodo “ABC reports that Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Bob Carr has “released a list” of the contacts his consular officials have had with Assange, on 62 claimed occasions.

    My goodness, are they pulling out all the propaganda stops against Assange and anyone who dares support him and the admirable Ecuadorean action, or what?

    Here is a copy of correspondence between Julian Assange’s solicitor Gareth Peirce and the Australian Consul-General in London, Ken Pascoe. On 29 May 2012, Peirce makes requests for assistance on 16 different counts. In reply, on 19 July 2012, Pascoe refuses each and every one of them, in what amounts to a ‘declaration of abandonment’:

    http://justice4assange.com/Declaration-of-Abandonment.html

    Now who can click their fingers and get the Australian government to be so ridiculously (and easily verifiably) dishonest; the Swedish government to insist on extradition before questioning, even though Assange is perfectly willing to talk to them in London; and the British government to issue a threat to enter a foreign embassy by force?

    Are we supposed to believe that official circles in each of these three supposedly sovereign countries have chosen – whoopsadaisy! – on their own behalf, completely independently, to make utter fools of themselves in the opinion of anyone who’s remotely able actually to form an opinion?

  73. Interestingly on the Ecuador free press issues. Most of the well known UK offshore pirate ships/transmitters of the 1960s were CIA funded. Through fronts such as “Radio Church of God” and more directly from Monsanto and the Bush family (oil) firm Zapata Corporation (itself backed by Bin Ladens). The US covertly built and ran a fleet of these fervently anti-communist and more subtle propaganda ships; many more built for such use – e.g. the USS Liberty – found alternate uses as listening stations instead, as country after country outlawed the pirates or made their resupply and operation difficult.

    Sources are the editions 58 and 59 of The Lobster.
    http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster58/lobster58.pdf
    http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster59/lobster59.pdf

    I’m not surprised Ecuador is having media troubles, the neighbours they have, perhaps they’ve a meddling El Murdoch on their turf too.

  74. thee is an excellent website called http://www.guardianlies.com

  75. Martin Stone

    23 Aug, 2012 - 9:44 pm

    I just refreshed the page after reading the comments to the bottom – and all the fantastic links everyone here has supplied – before making a comment of my own.

    Spookily, one more post popped up – from Larry Levin praising Jonathan Boyd Hunt’s http://www.guardianlies.com.

    That is EXACTLY what my proposed comment was going to say!

  76. Yes, to other comments on this issue. One remarkably constant feature of the consular-assistance side of this has been that Assange and his lawyers deny having had the help Carr claims to have given them. They also claim that they specifically asked for consular assistance and were refused.
    Here’s Gillard with the authorised version:
    {http://www.dayandnightnews.com/2012/06/aus-continue-to-provide-consular-support-for-assange-gillard/}

    And here’s an account of a claimed “contact” in the course of which Assange allegedly refused assistance…
    http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/2012-08-18/assange-refused-offer-of-assistance-from-australia/1001616

    Curiouser and curiouser.
    I have yet to discover to whom the list of contact events (I am picking my words here) was released. Poste restante, Hobart?
    Anyone?

  77. Senator BOB CARR: …… To date there have been 62 representations made by the Australian government about the consulate contact with Mr Assange or his legal representatives since legal proceedings commenced in 2010. According to advice I have from the department, no Australian has received more attention in a comparable space of time in terms of consulate representation than Mr Assange. This includes representations on his behalf to the government of the United Kingdom and the government of Sweden to obtain assurances of due process in current and future legal proceedings.

    http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db=CHAMBER;id=chamber%2Fhansards%2F9d41be79-6ff2-4592-b996-63607e4a71cd%2F0092;query=Id%3A%22chamber%2Fhansards%2F9d41be79-6ff2-4592-b996-63607e4a71cd%2F0000%22

    Where’s the list?

  78. Lucky Guardian for capturing Glen Greenwald. It’s a long time since they had a genuinely informed investigative journalist writing factual pieces on the subject of press freedom, human rights and overseas wars. Now they have this highly respected journalist and lawyer gracing their pages, he might restore some credibility to the once great Manchester Guardian.

    His coverage of the Assange case is brilliant and full of hard facts and a pleasant change from the previous childish spiteful biased articles published by Wikileaks ex-partner.

  79. Please correct me if I’m wrong but:
    Assange “is nothing but a ‘monstrous narcissist’, a bail-jumping ‘sex pest’ and an exhibitionist maniac” – venom spewed at someone “who has yet to be charged, let alone convicted, of anything.”
    Isn’t it that in Sweden you cannot be “charged” until you are interviewed?

  80. Agree.

  81. Is this THE G Greenwald? http://patterico.com/2006/07/27/annotated-wuzzadem-the-facts-behind-the-greenwald-sock-puppetry/

    If so, great coup to get him. Furious competition with the Indy and J Hari!

  82. Fragment found on Patterico’s site:
    the great Mark Steyn, who graces these pages as well,

    Uh huh.

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