The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
@Q
Well said indeed. Oh and it isn’t “study at….”
She’s PhD !
Much more interesting…
https://www.duedil.com/company/03499837/dreamford-investments-limited/people
@James
13 Oct, 2012 – 11:14 pm
The delay might have different reasons. It looks more like panic, that they where taken by surprise – which partly exclude the French or British to be involved. They would have done a better and faster job to cover up, if they had been prepared.
Re the mystery BM. If he was involved in one way or another, then Al-Hilli made a choice to use a camping site not far away from BM:s house. Might be important.
And what was al-Hilli doing when he went out for several short trips when he was staying at the camping?
Re the shooting: Why did it take 1-2 days before they said that also Iqbal was shoot in the head? In the first reports there was only mentioned that al-Hilli,Suhaila and Mollier was shot in the head.
My guess is that Mossad had traced up some dirty business which involved Mollier and the al-Hilli family. They have the capacity, as well as the US who is also a nation who could prefer liquidation rather than a court case.
Another but weaker theory is that Mollier/Al-Hilli supplied damaged goods to the iranians intentionally, supported by the West, and the iranians was fed up.
There are also other smaller nations interested in nuclear technology, like UAE. And Pakistan. But most likely al-Hilli would prefer to cooperate with a shiamuslim state, like Iran.
Impenetrable website
http://rawi.co.uk/
@Felix
Is it usual to post an account to the web?
Yes, most companies have them on Duedil. But normally they are the most recent, and it says “download the most recent accounts”. But with Silver Fern (Sussex) it’s not the most recent, it’s the one before…
Strange, now I see March 10, not September 15.
Where?
@Felix
Much more interesting…
https://www.duedil.com/company/03499837/dreamford-investments-limited/people
Yes, isn’t it!
BTW, have you taken a really close look at the other 4 signatures?
Thomas
Agree (ish).
The UAE are building theirs now. All approved.
Mossad. It isn’t to be fair on them, not their “style”, although read in The Ecomonist a book review. How “I” kep back “peace”, to the frustration of many.
I the you who’s “style” it is though ! Look Up Barry Seal.
The “trick” is, you get somebody else to do it for you.
And there is only “one lot” that are expert at that.
The reason here is… I am convinced that no one wants a war (well one half does… even President OB’s VP was having his stand on “nuclear enrichment, whilst “Mitt’s” man was going “all out” to say Iran does).
It COULD be that. The Guns of August ! Remember JFK putting swaying the pilot that over flew cuba to say he din’t get shot at (the plane was riddled). BUT it stopped a war (and some wanted that war).
I think it’s that (or something like it).
@Ferret
I meant the PDF always gave the date as 15 Sept. Now it says 10 Mar 2012. I don’t know why.
Fouad Ahmad. No nationality given. Lives in a mansion on Kingston Hill….. plus some Swedish connections.
The thing is…there neds to be links. Then I (or us) can make some calls.
There are links between “Bill” and Fifty Five Dissolve Gate.
Now I want to link “Elektra” fully with SAH.
If I am wrong…then that lttle alley is blind.
If there is something, then I can pester some journo who wants to make a name, to dosomething of his back. It’ll be more than whats been done ths far.
…as found in a Google Search.
I think these two people are one and the same:
{http://company-director-check.co.uk/search?name=Intilaq+Ali+Ali&posted=true&Search=Search}
Kingston-upon-Thames area.
See the other dissolved co, 03399516 “SWISS-GATE LIMITED”
7 LIVESEY CLOSE, KINGSTONE, SURREY, KT1 3GD
No trace at Duedil!
Whois record for “Rawi”
Whois Record
Reverse IP:56 other sites hosted on this server. Domain Monitor supports .com, .net, .org, .biz, .info, and .us domains
Domain name:
rawi.co.uk
Registrant:
Fadel Al-Ahmad
Registrant type:
UK Individual
Registrant’s address:
The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
address omitted from the WHOIS service.
Registrar:
Namesco Limited t/a Namesco Ltd [Tag = NAMESCO]
URL: http://www.names.co.uk
Relevant dates:
Registered on: 03-Apr-2003
Expiry date: 03-Apr-2013
Last updated: 21-Jun-2012
@Felix
I meant the PDF always gave the date as 15 Sept. Now it says 10 Mar 2012. I don’t know why.
Ah OK, that’s strange… you mean, when you download another copy from Companies House? If so, has anything changed?
Fouad Ahmad. No nationality given. Lives in a mansion on Kingston Hill….. plus some Swedish connections.
Yeah, very interesting indeed…
@Felix
You asked before about “ex RAF” CV. Eventually found it.
It looks normal (although I bet Air 2000 were a bit p*ss’d.
He’s a “Boeing” man it seems from that.
Gone self employed as a trainer on sims and CRM.
With that, BA dont have the Dreamliner yet..so there would be work there.
How much I have no idea.
My last was on a GV (Gulfstream 5) And had sim guys there…and checkers on the sim guys (its V regulated industry).
From that I imagine “alot of work”. Split between who ? Well Boeing.
Other than that, I cannot say. And would not gess incase I find myself being rated in the future.
But the RAF (V) is normal. Trucking around in a Chipmonk !
The one thing (And I do not know the BA employment structures) but I would have kept on the triple 7’s …and retired later (he may have had one of the “better” contracts in BA !)
@James
guess you can explain – he was doing those things while still in commission – is that possible? He didn’t resign from the RAF until 1992 (from memory, without scrolling back)
Re RAWI – anotther company at the same address is Freshbay Ltd
Directors include MG Mulji, Panna Mulji, Rasik/Rasikal Mulji and Kamlesh Mulji (plus an Anand Mulji in the States)
@Felix
Now I have to go back !
But I read it as, retired from te RAF and went to Air2000 (1 yr) and then British Airways (but remained, which is normal in the RAF V. This is normally working with “cadet plots” etc)
Have known loads like that. My instructor was “RED TWO” way back when he flew, but was “retired” by then…and took me out in a Chipmonk.
@Felix
14 Oct, 2012 – 12:16 am
One of the Swedish contacts is owner of a dental clinic in Sweden:
http://www.ratsit.se/BC/ReportSmall.aspx?ID=apXwD90-dLId5X9n3-yvbQdAt4mYlL26AzaJvfAsPlY
Felix….
The OTHER thing is ! (I forgot this) he was F4 fast jets.
And a weapons instructor.
I wasn’t ever “fast jets”, but I have met a good few whilst flying GV’s.
To be honest… I think they like to take more risks than I would do.
And with that in mind, I prefer “non RAF fast jetters” if I am coming into a difficult airport (Samedan and alike).
And I also find it “funny” he was said to be “ex RAF” than “Ex Airline” !
That to me….brought me to this “case”.
@James
Thanks for your insight. Understand now.
Felix…
As an “odd” aside. I have flown with pilots that like to wear “their gloves” when flying ! The were ex “F15e or F16” pilots !
Scares the sh*t out of me.
I fly with a coffee and catering ! (Flaps up, feet up !).
…we even “made” five bars for one guy. Troube was he thought they were great…and kept on wearing them !
Mad people fly. And some like the “fun” of things !
Felix…
To “tie” that all up.
He was “ex RAF” not airline retired.
He likes getting out on his bike.
He likes “hiking in the Alps”.
His accountant firm…isn’t in Brighton.
Make of that what you will. I have.
@ Felix
Re Rawi.co.uk
Felix, remind me – what is the significance of this accountants please?
Is the accountant thing…we’re looking to see if “Bill” was contracting ?
I think we have that.
How can we link Sa’ad to Mollier (for sure). That’s the problem.
So where does this Rawi firm come into it James?
Has it been mentioned previously.
Just I’ve found something interesting, but won;t bother to post it if Rawi has nothing to do with anything.
Dopey…
I dont know. It ws through the directorships, but which !
What have you found…and what does it link to ?
I think now we all (those that just say “maybe his brother knew a chicken in Iraq, that was friends with a goat”) know that there are “links” or rather one rather strange one…..so
…we can link that way. Or Sa’ad to Mollier.
Print it Dopey.
Although Al Rawi was the Rep Guard in Iraq !
Dopey…
The thing is, this Syria thing is a problem. I think “key”.
If Turkey get involved, it is a NATO member. “one attacked, all attacked”.
That means “boots on the ground” and that means Iran gets in (Syria is a satellite state) and The Hez !
But I hink people have worked on getting this going “war is man made” after all.
I think the US doesn’t want to do this. But if Iran was buying lasers for “huke” enrichment, then that’s another.
I think some are trying to stop it !
@Dopey
128 Ebury St (ravi) is the address where Cannell / GC (55ers) set up the company with the Swedish ?Iraqis?.
Another ?son? Ahmad has set up two “two year” companies from the same Kingston Hill address
{http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/912581057} and they both have no trace at Duedil. How come?
Was just wondering where the cos were registered.
I see the “Brit army” and Brit navy” hav stung them on networking for def Co’s !
That’s what we are lookig at here I think.
Al Hill (in Dubai), Mollier (CEZUS) Dr James (that family friend, James Matthews !) Dr James Matthews BAE (could be ?)…AND Gary A !
Throw in JC (or is it GC !!) ad in “our boy Billy”.
That’s a nice network if there was ever was one
@Thomas
Re the family in Huddinge
The Daily Mail described Hasan Al-Saffar, 18 as Mrs Al-Allaf’s nephew. Seems a large age gap, 18 to 74/77. Perhaps they made a mistake in the relationship for Hasan-Per Ahmed Al-Saffar
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2200542/Alps-massacre-What-murder-VICTIM-wrote-brother-seven-year-old-girl-comes-coma-sister-returns-Britain.html
Note here , February 2009 {http://arkiv.mitti.se:4711/2009/9/huddinge/MIHU40A20090224OSV1.pdf} says Ahmad & Sahira bought their house for SEK 2.75m
So Sahira is the daughter of Mrs Allaf?