Time to Abolish the BBC

by craig on May 13, 2013 10:09 am in Uncategorized

It must be a fundamental human right not to have to pay James Purnell. The obnoxious Blair clone is on £420,000 a year at the BBC. I found this article absolutely horrifying; the BBC has appointed as director of news and current affairs James Harding, a man who wrote a defence of the 2008/9 massacre of 1400 Palestinians in Gaza, which used illegal and horrifying white phosphorous bombs as well as depleted uranium, and killed hundreds of small children. That attack was so shocking it reintroduced a significant proportion of the British student population to the idea of radical politics.

That the BBC should appoint the openly politically partisan to top positions – and that they should be openly neo-con – is not shocking because we have come to accept the depredations of the political class as normal.

The purpose of the BBC ended when Grag Dyke and Andrew Gilligan were forced out and the BBC issued a formal apology – in effect to Tony Blair – an apology for telling the truth about Iraqi WMD and the “dodgy dossier” which Blair, Campbell and Scarlett conducted. The BBC has seldom made the mistake of telling the truth since.

I increasingly find myself advocating political opinions I would have found anathema five years ago. I am forced to the opinion that now it is time to abolish the licence fee and end all public funding to the BBC. We should not be blinded by nostalgia; the BBC has no claim to impartiality or “public service ethic.” Nor, for the most part, to quality. Talent shows, reality TV and endless cooking and property auction programmes are not something everybody should be obliged to pay for, on penalty of not owning a television.

Doubtless bits of the BBC would survive in the private sector. World Service broadcasting might be taken over by DFID – another “fake independent agency” can be interposed if desired. But even if some good were lost, the overall harm done by this inflated structure and its all-pervading propaganda is such that it would be worth the sacrifice.

The Leveson Inquiry was a brilliant sleight of hand which managed to get liberals arguing for more government control of the media, while the real problem – the need for a radical breaking up of media ownership – was ignored. If we fracture the Murdoch empire and break up the BBC, with radically tough regulations restricting the percentage of the market any owner can have, we have a real chance to have a diverse media and broader political debate.

All institutions tend to corruption the longer they have existed. Over time those who control the structures of power develop ways to make sure large institutions are twisted to their personal interests. There is not much the rest of us can in truth do about it, except to give the kaleidoscope a good hard shake every now and then.

It is time to shake the kaleidoscope and abolish the BBC.

UPDATE

Just received from BBC Press Office:

Hi Craig

We wanted to draw your attention to our release from 14 Feb this year:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2013/tony-hall-senior-team.html

James Purnell’s salary as Director, Strategy and Digital, will be a total of £295,000 not £420,000.

Best wishes
BBC Press Office

So that’s OK then.

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258 Comments

  1. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)
    13 May, 2013 – 8:54 pm

    “…designed to give a misleading impression. Cf.:”

    I forgot to mention to you in my previous post that cf means “compare with” not: “for example” as you use it.

    It is also used only in lower case not Cf as you put it which is the abbreviation for the chemical element Californium.

    I feel so pedantic today.

  2. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    15 May, 2013 - 12:23 pm

    @ Doug Scorgie who says :

    “I merely quote parts of texts”
    ——–

    Which is precisely what I said (cf. “selective and incomplete quoting”).

    As for you giving links to sources, I imagine you rely on people to just read your ‘parts of texts’ and not bother to read through the sources (along the lines of an expression you presumably remember, ie, “I couldn’t be arsed…”)

  3. @technicolour

    “if the BBC is purely a propaganda cell, it is an extremely unsuccessful one.”

    Its success is not total – we don’t all think the same way. But that’s like saying that the Spanish flu wasn’t so bad because it didn’t kill everyone. The BBC just has to ensure that dissent never reaches the critical mass that would initiate direct action. Ten out of ten for that, no?

  4. Giles
    13 May, 2013 – 10:55 pm

    “Just to expand, you people want the BBC to be 100% critical of Israel…”

    No Giles, we want all news coverage to be politically neutral on any topic the BBC reports. I would like to know of any BBC news reports or documentaries that are strongly critical of Israel as opposed to mild en passant comments.

  5. Doug Scorgie, Habbabkuk does occasionally link his statements to their sources, and there are a few times when his comments actually make some sense. Even from the others, a majority I should say, he has brought to me a few moments of real entertainment, and since his family have joined the blog, many more. I realise he is a lonely character and this blog is his life. Don’t be too harsh on him.

    Castigating him for leaving out a question mark even made me blush, since I did the same thing yesterday myself. It’s a bugger when you spot something after you’ve submitted the comment! When you know you’re not going to get agreement from a comment-maker you might as well spend your time learning Italian. (La Vita È Bella!).

    Suhayl at 09.59 p.m. yesterday. There is a global conspiracy run by the Bilderberg Group who are meeting in the UK this year at The Grove Hotel, Watford (6-9 June). There are going to be some fringe events beforehand. The last Bilderberg meeting I have seen footage of took place in Bohemian Grove, when thousands of rich and influential people paid homage to a large statue of an owl, and a child was sacrificed (all captured by a gatecrasher). But then cowardly power-mongers who kill countless unwitting people with their drones are hardly likely to balk at the human sacrifice of just one child.

  6. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    15 May, 2013 - 12:54 pm

    @ Komodo :

    “As you acknowledge, this is a blunt instrument, and I’d add that even if it were a righteous retribution on tax-dodgers, it is a response to the greater, and global, criminality of fraudulent banks”
    ——–

    I think your focus is incorrect. Let me illustrate by way of an example involving a comparison wrt the new property tax.

    There’s a couple of modest means living in a modest apartment in a not particularly noble part of town. They’re paying something like €400 by way of that tax. There’s another couple living in a rather nice villa in one of the posher suburbs. They’re being charged around €2500. Now, the first couple are/were not in a position to tax avoid and so you could argue that the tax is unfair on them. But the point is (and this is where your focus is incorrect) that they are paying the €400 NOT for the sins of the ‘greedy bankers’ BUT for the past sins of the other couple I mentioned. As former Foreign Minister Pangalos once said, “we all had our snouts in the trough”.

    By the way, I’m not sure that amnesties are the way to go (the Greek authorities tried that to tackle the problem of illegal building; for sure they pulled in quite a bit of money but I think that they also created expectations that future illegal constructions will be dealt with in the same way in a couple of years and have therefore provided an incentive for this kind of activity). But you are probably right about future draconian measures; you could of course see the new asset-evaluation system as an example of such measures.

  7. As long as you dont watch LIVE programming you dont need a license anyway. I havent paid one for years. HDMI from laptop to telly and you can Watch ANYTHING as long as its not LIVE. If you must watch BBC stuff just do it in on catch up. In all seriousness WHO watches live programming on the BBC nowadays anyway??? its awful

  8. World Service

    15 May, 2013 - 1:04 pm

  9. karel (a conspiracy a day keeps idiocy away)

    15 May, 2013 - 1:26 pm

    fedup,

    you are right but not entirely. There were indeed people in the Soviet union who believed the propaganda beamed to them every day. What the proportion of these loyal souls was, is difficult to guess and this percentage has certainly decreased from the days of Lenin to the days of Gorbatchov. Those watching BBC tend to think that propaganda is something typical for Trotzky or Goebbels without realising what they are watching. Joseph Geobbels was convinced “Gleichschaltung” of mass media is the road to scuccess, something we see today; the same story appears wherever one may look. The important principle of Goebbels was to construe propaganda in such a way that is not perceived as such. .

  10. Vronsky 15 May, 2013 – 9:50 am

    “Oil and gas are scarce and depleting, and having your own source can avoid a lot of trouble. Ask the Georgians or Ukrainians.”

    Ask Nigeria, Sudan, Yemen, Lybia, Algeria, Iraq, Angola, Syria, Chad, Uganda, …. …..

  11. Not seen on the BBC – Profit has no moral compass…

    First Poundbury, now Bahrain: Should Prince Charles really be selling town planning to despots?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/first-poundbury-now-bahrain-should-prince-charles-really-be-selling-town-planning-to-despots-8616371.html

  12. technicolour

    15 May, 2013 - 1:40 pm

    Vronsky: I can’t disagree: obviously the reporting before, during and after the attacks on both Afghanistan and Iraq was run by Blair’s inner cabal rather than the public interest or the interests of journalism (I could rant for pages about this). And, unlike, say the Sun, the BBC might indeed be expected to represent the public, just as the government might be expected to represent the people who pay them.

    There were many factors at play in ensuring that dissent did not spill over into direct action. Of course the lack of anything but officially sanctioned propaganda was one of them. Who knows, even now, that the two men who tried to disable a B52 bomber were found not guilty, on the grounds that they acted to try and prevent a worse crime?
    http://www.b52two.blogspot.ie/

    These days, imagining honest headlines – I think the news would explode.

  13. doug scorgie

    15 May, 2013 - 1:42 pm

    Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)
    14 May, 2013 – 3:19 pm

    “How else to explain this outpouring of ‘knowledge’, which is scarcely irrelevant to the main thrust of this thread?”

    Don’t you mean scarcely relevant?

  14. “There are many potential sources of food and it is inherently (if not actually) a renewable. Oil and gas are scarce and depleting, and having your own source can avoid a lot of trouble. Ask the Georgians or Ukrainians.”

    If we aren’t capable of producing the food we need then it isn’t renewable.

    The Ukraine can have all the gas they want, they just have to pay for it at the same prices the rest of Europe does. They left the Soviet Union so can’t expect to continue getting their gas subsidised by Russia. Stealing gas meant for Europe wasn’t a good idea either.

    There is a surplus of cheap shale gas in America, easy enough to put it on a ship and fetch it over. The gas companies buy the cheapest they can get as where it comes from.

  15. April Showers

    15 May, 2013 - 1:52 pm

    The Soldier Prince

    No cavorting with Miss America. Note Agent Cameron attended.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2324668/Prince-Harry-New-York-Miss-USA-Nana-Meriweather-attends-Manhattan-Four-Seasons-party-wants-marry-Prince.html

    http://www.royalfoundation.com/about-our-foundation/trustees/

    £5M in the bank. Note snakish Manning of Bush and Blair fame is there.

    http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/FinancialHistory.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1132048&SubsidiaryNumber=0

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Manning

    Can’t find out who the American Friends actually are. It took me ages to get the Charity Comm page up in spite of using the no. on the Foundation website with the banner picture of the gleesome threesome. When I typed out the whole title, it appeared under exactly the same number??

  16. Surely the way to go is to ensure that the rich couple pay their whack rather than hitting the poor couple, no matter whose sins they are subsidising? And an amnesty would raise some immediate cash, in the event of the new draconian approach being anticipated by the rich couple’s accountants. I think the current proposal is bound to hurt more people unjustly than it brings justly to book. The plea of ‘collateral damage’ is always a shabby one.

    Re. the bankers, the reason everyone’s bust is that the financial system has failed. Nothing is being done to prevent it failing again, and everyone except the well-connected is taking a haircut Among the well-connected are precisely the financial functionaries whose job it was to ensure that loans were properly secured, and that credit was not extended simply as a way of adding notional cash to the balance sheet. Hanging’s too good for them, and all they’re getting is a slap on the wrist, with colossal amounts of taxpayers’ money. Now government mismanagement has ensured that existing taxation is not enough to stuff their insatiable mouths to the point where they might actually start investing in anything heavier than air again, and the usual process of stripping assets from the public is under way.

    You fail to engage my sympathy, I’m afraid.

  17. Err – by “amnesty”, I don’t mean “all is forgiven, go away and sin no more.” I mean “if you make a correct declaration now, we won’t make you pay in arrears, but we’ll know where you stand in future. If you don’t make a correct declaration – and we’re checking – it’s the sub-basement of Korydallos for you.”

  18. doug scorgie

    15 May, 2013 - 2:04 pm

    Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)
    14 May, 2013 – 3:19 pm

    “Quite interesting btw that the Obsessive Poster (14h39) gives out great chunks of history (lifted from various websites) so soon after I quoted from material written in the 1930s.”

    So Halfacock, your post of 14 May, 2013 – 9:09 am comprised of quotes “from material written in the 1930s.”

    April Showers provides referenced links to her commentary you, as ever, do not.

    KingofWelshNoir
    Says:
    “Habbabkuk”
    “Wow!”
    “In a departure from your usual habit of carping, hectoring, badgering, nit-picking and generalised obfuscation you actually post something cogent.”

    But according to your own post above you were quoting from other people’s material from the 1930s, as if it was your own work.

    Plagiarism this is called.

  19. April Showers – American friends whois report has used identity protection.

    Domain Name: AMERICANFRIENDSROYALFOUNDATION.COM
    Creation Date: 2012-07-02
    Expiry Date: 2014-07-02
    Nameserver: ns.123-reg.co.uk
    Nameserver: ns2.123-reg.co.uk
    Registrant Name: Identity Protection Service
    Registrant Company: Identity Protect Limited
    Registrant Address: PO Box 795
    Registrant Address: Godalming
    Registrant Address: Surrey
    Registrant Address: GU7 9GA
    Registrant Address: GB
    Administrative Name: Identity Protection Service
    Administrative Company: Identity Protect Limited
    Administrative Address: PO Box 795
    Administrative Address: Godalming
    Administrative Address: Surrey
    Administrative Address: GU7 9GA
    Administrative Address: GB
    Administrative Email: americanfriendsroyalfoundation.com@identity-protect.org
    Administrative Tel: +44.1483307527
    Administrative Fax: +44.1483304031
    Technical Name: Identity Protection Service
    Technical Company: Identity Protect Limited
    Technical Address: PO Box 795
    Technical Address: Godalming
    Technical Address: Surrey
    Technical Address: GU7 9GA
    Technical Address: GB
    Technical Email: americanfriendsroyalfoundation.com@identity-protect.org
    Technical Tel: +44.1483307527
    Technical Fax: +44.1483304031

  20. doug scorgie

    15 May, 2013 - 2:16 pm

    Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)
    14 May, 2013 – 4:30 pm

    “The Greek tax base, and therefore potential govt. revenue, was sufficient to cover even the profligate spending of the last decade or two – provided, however, that the taxes due were actually paid and collected……………”

    More plagiarism?

  21. Church of England Bishop gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar…http://wp.me/P3pxXH-2I

  22. Not from here, anyway, Doug.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-and-germany-to-blame-for-greece-crisis-7218923.html

    Maybe the Greek taxes would have paid for all this if anyone had bothered to collect them?

  23. The chair of American Friends of the Royal Foundation is http://www.hrw.org/bios/john-j-studzinski . Also vice-chair of Human Rights Watch…

  24. April Showers

    15 May, 2013 - 3:51 pm

    Prince Charles criticised over Bahrain housing deal

    Opposition activists say contract for prince’s charity gives a green light to regime to continue human rights abuses

    Robert Booth
    guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 14 May 2013 19.59 BST

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/14/prince-charles-
    criticised-bahrain-housing-deal

    Prince Charles (left) with the Crown Prince of Bahrain at St James’s Palace in London. Photograph: PA

    Prince Charles has been accused of lending credibility to an autocratic regime accused of serious human rights abuses after his architecture charity signed a deal to advise Bahrain on a 4,000-home development.

    The contract with the Manama government was agreed last month by the Prince’s Foundation for Building Community and is being backed by the Foreign Office.

    ~~~

    Yet another Royal Foundation.

  25. …yet, strangely, Identity Protect LTD is a dormant company. How does that work, then?

    http://companycheck.co.uk/company/07407280

    Apparently: The only allowed transactions of a dormant company are:

    payment for shares taken by subscribers to the memorandum of association;

    fees paid to the Registrar of Companies for a change of company name, the re-registration of a company and filing annual returns; and

    payment of a civil penalty for late filing of accounts.

    http://www.bytestart.co.uk/dormant-limited-company.html

    There’s more than meets the eye to this…

  26. Evil dictator (thinks) “I’d better send Ali down to the cells with the electrodes today. We’re overrun with innocent prisoners and we need some confessions. But hold! How can I legitimise my vile and despotic methods? I know! I’ll get Prince Charles to advise me on that upmarket housing development in downtown Despotisehr, and all will be well! Don’t forget the branding irons, Ali!

  27. April Showers

    15 May, 2013 - 4:06 pm

    Thanks Mark and Komodo. Top secret eh?

    More on Studzinski written well before the casino banking crash happened.

    http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/john-studzinski-banker-philanthropist-and-anglophile

    Britain’s Prince Harry, left, shakes hands with John Studzinski, president of the American Friends of The Royal Foundation, as he arrives at a fundraiser for The Royal Foundation, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 in New York. (AP Photo/Jason DeCrow)http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/297391/slide_297391_2451261_free.jpg?1368601987486

  28. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    15 May, 2013 - 4:14 pm

    @ The Scourge :

    “But according to your own post above you were quoting from other people’s material from the 1930s, as if it was your own work.

    Plagiarism this is called.”
    ———–

    Not quite, old bean! Plagiarism is lifting stuff from others’ writing without acknowledgement. I indicated the sources (Lord Reith and Malcolm Muggeridge) and put the bits of text in quotation marks.

    Take a deep breath and calm down, dear!

    BTW 1 : “April Showers provides referenced links to her commentary you, as ever, do not.”

    colon or semi-colon needed after the word “commentary”

    BTW2 : “So Halfacock, your post of 14 May, 2013 – 9:09 am comprised of quotes “from material”

    no need to say “comprised of”, “comprised” will do just fine.

    BTW 3 : “Plagiarism this is called.”

    what a twee inversion. Were you feeling literary?

  29. April Showers

    15 May, 2013 - 4:26 pm

    A conversation on Medialens about this post of Craig’s.

    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1368582014.html

  30. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    15 May, 2013 - 4:30 pm

    @ John Goss:

    Well, thank you so much for your kind words!

    But when you say “and this blog is his life.” aren’t you getting me mixed up with “April Showers”, formerly known as “Mary”? You know, the commenter who declared that she was leaving this blog for pastures new … and then slunk back under a new name a few days afterwards?

    BTW, that wasn’t a child the Bilderbergers were sacrificing, it was a wax doll.

  31. doug scorgie

    15 May, 2013 - 4:41 pm

    Dreoilin
    14 May, 2013 – 11:42 pm

    “I just think it should be widely known.”

    Yes I agree. The warning of “viewer discretion” leaves people with the choice to view or not.

    Such disgusting actions are not fully covered by the MSM; the reporting of war and all the atrocities that it entails is sanitised by the western media.

    The western media is, in my view, complicit in covering up war crimes by our governments. However they have shown, with glee and graphically (and repeatedly), Gaddafi’s murder and the moments leading up to the execution of Saddam Hussein; leading to dancing in the streets; all shown by the MSM including the BBC.

  32. To be fair to the BBC – the article on rebel eating the heart is still there
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22519770

    BUT I think they are burying it so its difficult to find. They also effectively censor by not promoting certain documentaries (e.g. why poverty?) and making sure they are away from peaktime so the majority of viewers are in beddyboes (panorama iraq war 10 years on)

    A lot of content is now watched via iplayer and you will never see any “critical” programs in the featured section – you will have to specifically look for them.

    Anyway BBC is basically controlled by The Crown so of course its propaganda.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC

  33. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    15 May, 2013 - 7:05 pm

    @ Doug Scorgie (16h41) :

    “The western media is, in my view, complicit…”
    ———–

    Your pedantry must be catching : plural noun….and a singular verb??

    Tut, tut!

  34. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    15 May, 2013 - 7:24 pm

    @ Komodo (on the Greek crisis) :

    Last one from me, there’s a new thread to get our teeth into!

    1/. “Surely the way to go is to ensure that the rich couple pay their whack rather than hitting the poor couple”

    Well, the richer couple will certainly pay more under that new property tax than the other couple. One of the points of that tax is that it’s unavoidable (you can’t hide a villa).And as far as asset-based tax evaluation is concerned, the poorer couple won’t be affected.

    2/. “Re. the bankers, the reason everyone’s bust is that the financial system has failed.”

    Well, everyone’s not bust; in fact, most people are far from bust. That was a general comment. As far as Greece specifically is concerned, the crisis was NOT caused by bankers whether greedy or not. It is that (1) the state spent money as if there was no tomorrow (this started with the first PASOK govt.) (2) it pulled in insufficient revenue because of a mixture of tax avoidance, corruption by tax officials and the state turning a blind eye to certain practices from certain client groups. Add to that a more generalised corruption (eg by public officials and elected representatives), the irresponsibility of political leaders and a generalised lack of civic feeling (the Greek looks after himself and his family first and doesn’t give a stuff about the wider community) and that’s how the present mess came about.

    3/.”You fail to engage my sympathy, I’m afraid.”

    It’s a curious reading of my comments to think that I’m calling for sympathy for the bankers. And, moreover, if I had to ask someone for sympathy, I doubt if it would be you.

    Se you on the next thread no doubt. :)

  35. April Showers

    15 May, 2013 - 8:12 pm

    The one who spews out the verbal diarrhoea, intended to disparage, discredit and smear (but failing) spurs me on.

    I might have another name change soon – May Flowers and then Flaming June perhaps.

  36. Habbabkuk (La Vita È Bella!)
    Unblock?

    No chance.

  37. “There are many potential sources of food and it is inherently (if not actually) a renewable.” — Vronsky

    Indeed. And if you can stomach reading this, good luck to you:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/may/13/breed-insects-improve-human-food-security-un

    (Yes, yes, I know that in some cultures they are considered a delicacy, but I’ve had a “thing” about insects since I was a child.)

  38. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    15 May, 2013 - 10:52 pm

    @ the Obsessive Poster :

    “I might have another name change soon – May Flowers and then Flaming June perhaps”
    ———-

    Nothing flowery about you, old girl, unless you consider dogweed to be a flower.

    How about being meterological and calling yourself “Washed-out June”?

  39. Dave McEwan Hill

    15 May, 2013 - 11:41 pm

    I intend to be a the rally in Glasgow on Saturday because the BBC in Scotland lies to Scotland on a daily basis. It does this by carrying bizarre nonsense coming as press issue from Labour (and occassionally Tory) spokepersons and does not seek a balanced view against any of it.
    If I want to know what the BBC in Scotland will be majoring as news or hosting discussions on I only have to check with the stuff coming out of Labour Scottish HQ in West Regent Street in Glasgow.
    There is an unholy and dishonest alliance undermining democracy in Scotland.

  40. Technicolour…The bcc are Pretty sucessful war Propagandists and ARE actually Guilty of War Crimes as stated by one the world leaders of international goings on…Michel Chossudovsky

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71pDlls4JZo

    April At 1 ; 56 Here’s another Bit on P harry Warmongering

    Interviewer: “Have you killed from the cockpit yet Harry?”
    Prince Harry: “Yeah, so, lots of people have.”

    Poet Heathcote Williams doesn’t think we should forget the contrast between Harry’s sordid romp in Las Vegas and his arrogant boast of killing Afghans…

    He and his Father ( Re Bahrain ) make feel Sick

    http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/the-trouble-with-prince-harry-naughty-boy-peddling-war-propaganda

    Deolin
    Insects in Food…You may NOT wan to Know too much by visiting this wee Page

    Gross but true: A certain number of rodent hairs are allowed in the food you eat. (A whole mouse, however, is not.)….Yikes

    http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/05/06/29/how_many_insect_parts_and_rodent_hairs_are_allowed_in_your_food.htm

  41. Sorry Dreoilin For name misspell

  42. Dave i cant get google to open up regard a saturday rally… will keep trying though whats happenin and wen ( times ) cheers

    I was at the anti trident rally a few weeks ago…and guess what the bbc tried to lie about numbers – saying there was 300 – when in fact there were more than 2000 protesters

  43. April Showers

    16 May, 2013 - 7:17 am

    ZBC determined not to let a sleeping dog lie, even though the dog lies through its teeth, is resurrecting the chemical weapons story.

    Syria conflict: BBC shown ‘signs of chemical attack’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22549861#

    The signs, the signs……

  44. doug scorgie

    16 May, 2013 - 9:41 am

    BBC News:
    Syria’s chemical weapons

    “Evidence” cited by the BBC:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22549861

    “The CIA BELIEVS Syria has had a chemical weapons programme for years…”

    “Syria is BELIEVED to possess mustard gas and sarin, a highly toxic nerve agent”

    “The CIA also BELIEVES that Syria has attempted to develop more toxic and more persistent nerve agents, such as VX gas”

    “A report [NOT REFERENCED] citing Turkish, Arab and Western intelligence agencies put Syria’s stockpile at approximately 1,000 tonnes of chemical weapons, stored in 50 towns and cities”

    “Syria has not signed the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) or ratified the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention (BTWC)”

    [There is no mention that the country “next door” – Israel – has not signed the BWC or ratified the CWC].

    All that this “evidence” tells us is that Syria may possess chemical weapons. There is speculation that chemical weapons may have been used but we don’t know by whom.

  45. [There is no mention that the country “next door” – Israel – has not signed the BWC or ratified the CWC]

    Possibly because it’s utterly irrelevant to the subject under discussion.

  46. Possibly because it’s utterly irrelevant to the subject under discussion.

    Obviously. Otherwise you might be tempted to apply the same standards of conduct to both countries. See also, Golan Heights, airstrikes on Damascus, etc, etc.

  47. April Showers

    16 May, 2013 - 1:00 pm

    Reading this BBC headline would lead one to believe that HMRC had taken Goldman Sachs to court and won. No. It was UK Uncut Legal Alliance who took HMRC to court for making a deal with Goldman Sachs that was not in our interests. UK Uncut have lost. God knows what their legal fees are.

    HMRC wins Goldman Sachs court case http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22552109

    Leigh Day are good people. They might have taken the case pro bono.
    http://www.ukuncut.org.uk/actions/1015

    http://www.ukuncut.org.uk/blog/the-great-tax-robbery

  48. doug scorgie

    16 May, 2013 - 8:13 pm

  49. doug scorgie

    16 May, 2013 - 8:42 pm

    Chalie McGrath on the US media. He could as easily be talking about the Bitish media including the BBC.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lAmMMdfLac

  50. “The DWP are advertising for a News Manager with experience of ‘crisis management’”

    http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2013/05/17/lying-bastard-wanted-dwp-advertise-for-head-of-news/

  51. hello

    i mentioned not watching live tv and therefore no requirement to have a tv license as a way of fighting back in a previous article here, the only response was a smartass troll and lots of ‘blank stares’
    its my impression that many people here are dogmatic political types part of the same old left right circus, you dont really want to see substantial change youre too comfy for that just want things more your way, completely ignoring anything that is outside of your framing.
    this country could be brought down in a month, power could be ripped away from corporations and real change effected, but none of you really want that you have too much invested in the status quo.
    how?
    easy for instance everybody with a santander account withdraw all your deposits as quickly as possible may take a few months, watch the domino effect as other banks get wobbly. eu banking rules, they only hold 1.5% of deposits in physical cash

    turn off all live broadcasting cancel tvl watch youtube and iplayer. there are loads of old british quality films on you tube a real joy

    boycott one brand of petrol station, so it goes out of business,

    and so on it is quite easy with a sufficient number of people reading from the same plan to get power back from the corps and their political sock puppets no need for years of austerity fear mongering or spilling of blood.

    also bring back the rule of law and prosecute these financial criminals and confiscate money and property as recompense

    ban arms sales outside of our borders

    remove all masons from the gov and public service, seems to be an obvious conflict of interest to swear oaths to a secret society while governing

    bring about the trying of war criminals like tony blair etc

    aint gonna happen within the existing framework, so do you want change or not?

  52. Look what Max Kaiser just said about the BBC:

    “When we were doing a show for BBC World News called The Oracle with Max Kaiser, a couple of years ago, we only had one editorial direction and that is we could not mention Israel, in any context. That’s the only thing we heard from the BBC.” [24:50]

    Max Kaiser Show, Episode 443, May 9, 2013

  53. “BBC Scotland found guilty of distorting news:”

    They’re still at it, just look what happened then Nigel Forage was set upon by SNP Black Shirts.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22566183

  54. Fred
    17 May, 2013 – 7:29 pm

    “BBC Scotland found guilty of distorting news:”

    “They’re still at it, just look what happened then Nigel Forage was set upon by SNP Black Shirts.”

    So Fred you are a UKIP supporter. Are you also a supporter of the BNP or EDL by any chance?

  55. Fred is just a sad echo of whatever black propaganda the unionist camp spew forth, flogging a dead horse long after it has fallen flat, it is better not to sniff his stinky bait.

    Print this out Fredo: http://picpaste.com/credit-K.Deffeyes_rough_map_north_sea_oil_gas.jpg

    Stick it on your wall of your stately home.

  56. “So Fred you are a UKIP supporter. Are you also a supporter of the BNP or EDL by any chance?”

    Don’t be fucking stupid.

    I have never once said I support the UKIP, I have even stated on this blog that I would vote against leaving Europe.

    I am against SNP thugs going round harassing anyone they think might take votes from them. I wouldn’t agree with any political party using threats to prevent someone speaking.

    The SNP don’t want another independence party on their turf and they are using their bully boy tactics to prevent one even getting to talk.

    None of this alters the fact that the BBC Scotland presenter was obviously biassed.

    So do your research next time moron, I have consistently spoken against nationalism in all forms, especially when people think it gives them the right to use threats and intimidation.

  57. “I increasingly find myself advocating political opinions I would have found anathema five years ago.”

    Great and good news – Craig Murray is finally approaching political maturation.

  58. @ garye17 17 May, 2013 – 6:21 pm

    Quite agree, and it wouldn’t take that many people as a percentage to make change happen, however, most people are sheep, lazy, want an easy life, can’t be bothered to find out, do not want make much fuss, exhibit typical British apathy and the establishment just loves that, the way it is. Sadly it is only when the individual is affected directly and in great numbers then change will happen. This may come about through mass unemployment or some unexpected event due to natural disaster, war or economic sanctions.

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