Syria and Diplomacy

by craig on January 21, 2014 11:49 am in Uncategorized

The problem with the Geneva Communique from the first Geneva round on Syria is that the government of Syria never subscribed to it.  It was jointly chaired by the League of Arab States for Syria, whatever that may mean.  Another problem is that it is, as so many diplomatic documents are, highly ambiguous.  It plainly advocates a power sharing executive formed by some of the current government plus the opposition to oversee a transition to democracy.  But it does not state which elements of the current government, and it does not mention which elements of the opposition, nor does it make plain if President Assad himself is eligible to be part of, or to head, the power-sharing executive, and whether he is eligible to be a candidate in future democratic elections.

Doubtless the British, for example, would argue that the term transition implies that he will go.  The Russians will argue there is no such implication and the text does not exclude anybody from the process.  Doubtless also diplomats on all sides were fully aware of these differing interpretations and the ambiguity is quite deliberate to enable an agreed text. I would say that the text tends much more to the “western” side, and that this reflects the apparently weak military position of the Assad regime at that time and the then extant threat of western military intervention.  There has been a radical shift in those factors against the western side in the interim. Expect Russian interpretations now to get more hardline.

Given the extreme ambiguity of the text, Iran has, as it frequently does, shot itself in the foot diplomatically by refusing to accept the communique as the basis of talks and thus getting excluded from Geneva.  Iran should have accepted the communique, and then at Geneva issued its own interpretation of it.

But that is a minor point.  The farcical thing about the Geneva conference is that it is attempting to promote into power-sharing in Syria “opposition” members who have no democratic credentials and represent a scarcely significant portion of those actually fighting the Assad regime in Syria.  What the West are trying to achieve is what the CIA and Mossad have now achieved in Egypt; replacing the head of the Mubarak regime while keeping all its power structures in place. The West don’t really want democracy in Syria, they just want a less pro-Russian leader of the power structures.

The inability of the British left to understand the Middle East is pathetic.  I recall arguing with commenters on this blog who supported the overthrow of the elected President of Egypt Morsi on the grounds that his overthrow was supporting secularism, judicial independence (missing the entirely obvious fact the Egyptian judiciary are almost all puppets of the military) and would lead to a left wing revolutionary outcome.  Similarly the demonstrations against Erdogan in Istanbul, orchestrated by very similar pro-military forces to those now in charge in Egypt, were also hailed by commenters here.  The word “secularist” seems to obviate all sins when it comes to the Middle East.

Qatar will be present at Geneva, and Qatar has just launched a pre-emptive media offensive by launching a dossier on torture and murder of detainees by the Assad regime, which is being given first headline treatment by the BBC all morning

There would be a good dossier to be issued on torture in detention in Qatar, and the lives of slave workers there, but that is another question.

I do not doubt at all that atrocities have been committed and are being committed by the Assad regime.  It is a very unpleasant regime indeed.  The fact that atrocities are also being committed by various rebel groups does not make Syrian government atrocities any better.

But whether 11,000 people really were murdered in a single detainee camp I am unsure.  What I do know is that the BBC presentation of today’s report has been a disgrace.  The report was commissioned by the government of Qatar who commissioned Carter Ruck to do it.  Both those organisations are infamous suppressors of free speech.  What is reprehensible is that the BBC are presenting the report as though it were produced by neutral experts, whereas the opposite is the case.  It is produced not by anti torture campaigners or by human rights activists, but by lawyers who are doing it purely and simply because they are being paid to do it.

The BBC are showing enormous deference to Sir Desmond De Silva, who is introduced as a former UN war crimes prosecutor.  He is indeed that, but it is not the capacity in which he is now acting.  He is acting as a barrister in private practice.  Before he was a UN prosecutor, he was for decades a criminal defence lawyer and has defended many murderers.  He has since acted to suppress the truth being published about many celebrities, including John Terry.

If the Assad regime and not the government of Qatar had instructed him and paid him, he would now be on our screens arguing the opposite case to that he is putting.  That is his job.  He probably regards that as not reprehensible.  What is reprehensible is that the BBC do not make it plain, but introduce him as a UN war crimes prosecutor as though he were acting in that capacity or out of concern for human rights.  I can find no evidence of his having an especial love for human rights in the abstract, when he is not being paid for it.  He produced an official UK government report into the murder of Pat Finucane, a murder organised by British authorities, which Pat Finucane’s widow described as a “sham”.  He was also put in charge of quietly sweeping the Israeli murders on the Gaza flotilla under the carpet at the UN.

The question any decent journalist should be asking him is “Sir Desmond De Silva, how much did the government of Qatar pay you for your part in preparing this report?  How much did it pay the other experts?  Does your fee from the Government of Qatar include this TV interview, or are you charging separately for your time in giving this interview?  In short how much are you being paid to say this?”

That is what any decent journalist would ask.  Which is why you will never hear those questions on the BBC.

 

 

 

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  1. Uzbek in the UK

    23 Jan, 2014 - 12:24 pm

    Macky

    There is no simple answer to this and many other conflicts of the past. It was (I think) Bismark who said that there was no conflict in Europe (at that time) on which Austria did not warm up its Austrian soup. This can easily be applied to the great powers today and to the US specifically. The best (ideal) solution would be if there were no conflicts. If there were good governments all over the world which respects rights of their citizens. If borders of many post-colonial nations were not drawn thousands miles away in European capitals without smallest consideration of people these borders are mixing or dividing. But unfortunately this is not the case in case of many nations. So how do we go from here? Wait and see how many more people are slaughtered in there? Side with one against another to help one to slaughter another? Wait and see how others (not us) help one to slaughter others (in there)? Any OTHER options (which past and present system of world order is not aware of)?

    I bet many on this blog would prefer first option as it at least free us from moral responsibility of slaughter. Who (be honest) gives a toss of people slaughtered here and there, as long as we are not involved (for whatever motive). This is general criticism of left liberal within liberals. Left liberals are not satisfied with the current state of affair but western involvement makes things worse (which is true in most cases). Yes, fair enough it is understandable approach. But non-involvement does not make things better either. Especially when siding with others (non west) who still gets involved and take part in the slaughter, especially on the side of those who have least moral standing in this (slaughter).

  2. Macky. You are correct. I was being a bit harsh on religion. Which is ironic as I have lots of religious friends who I get along with splendidly.

  3. We have ‘spoken’ before of these Israeli oil grabs in land that does not belong to them nor under the coastal waters.

    Craig has this piece on Information Clearing House.

    Israel Grants Oil Rights in Syria to Murdoch and Rothschild
    By Craig Murray

    January 22, 2014 “Information Clearing House – Israel has granted oil exploration rights inside Syria, in the occupied Golan Heights, to Genie Energy. Major shareholders of Genie Energy – which also has interests in shale gas in the United States and shale oil in Israel – include Rupert Murdoch and Lord Jacob Rothschild. This from a 2010 Genie Energy press release:

    Claude Pupkin, CEO of Genie Oil and Gas, commented, “Genie’s success will ultimately depend, in part, on access to the expertise of the oil and gas industry and to the financial markets. Jacob Rothschild and Rupert Murdoch are extremely well regarded by and connected to leaders in these sectors. Their guidance and participation will prove invaluable.”

    “I am grateful to Howard Jonas and IDT for the opportunity to invest in this important initiative,” Lord Rothschild said. “Rupert Murdoch’s extraordinary achievements speak for themselves and we are very pleased he has agreed to be our partner. Genie Energy is making good technological progress to tap the world’s substantial oil shale deposits which could transform the future prospects of Israel, the Middle East and our allies around the world.”

    /..
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37438.htm

  4. Mary

    What was vile with that speech please?

  5. Almost all of it apart from the opening para.

  6. doug scorgie

    23 Jan, 2014 - 1:52 pm

    Mary

    The man who composed the Hockey Cokey caused problems for the undertakers on his death.

    They put his left leg in; his left leg out; in out in out; they shook it all about…

    Sorry

  7. “Obviously will be a tough and complicated negotions”

    How to create a
    Civil society the American way!

    How many American abortions a year?

  8. doug scorgie

    23 Jan, 2014 - 2:04 pm

    Growth of what?
    1. House prices.
    2. Food prices.
    3. Rentals
    4. Food banks
    5. Penises

  9. doug scorgie

    23 Jan, 2014 - 3:15 pm

    From the horses mouth; its about regime change and always was.

    “US state department spokeswoman Marie Harf said it [the report on Syrian 11,000 dead detainees] “underscores that it makes it even more important that we make progress [at Geneva II].

    The situation on the ground is so horrific that we need to get a political transition in place, and we need to get the Assad regime out of power.”

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37435.htm

  10. Thought I would look your Ms Harf up Doug.

    She has a lot of previous so to apeak. Here is some.

    http://the-embassy-of-peace.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/who-if-marie-harf.html

    Obama seems to surround himself with these harpie warmongering women. Harf, Nuland, Susan Rice at the UN, that ex Amnesty US woman Suzanne Nossel, and so on. Perhaps they flatter him.

    ~~~

    LOL Hokey Cokey If it was raining in the lunch hour at school, we used to do Scottish or English country dancing and occasionally the Hokey Cokey. Can you imagine the kids nowadays doing the same?

  11. Hello Write-on. Ben Here.

    ” Left have a lot to answer for here as they have passively watched while a totalitarian form of democracy has emerged since 9/11, a totalitarian form welded to aggressive warfare and a neo-conservative, neo-imperialist agenda,”

    Well the re-set has to do with the tolerance for Capitalism with all it’s trappings. The Left bear some responsibility for allowing themselves to be assimilated into a homogenous goo of bi-partisan hackery. The putative ‘Left’ has been engaged in a form of Detente and capitulation since the late 70’s when activism began to be viewed by mainstreamers as violent and nihilistic. The wave of conservative trending is starting to recede. Time to reactivate.

  12. “Kempe,

    http://www.un.org/depts/dhl/resguide/scact_veto_en.shtml

    Who is the veto king over the last 30 years say ”

    Irrelevant. We’re discussing Syria not who’s used the most vetos, classic example of what another poster raised; anything can be excused if it can be proved the US/UK/Israel did anything remotely similar at any time in the past. You just don’t get it do you? No matter how many times the US might’ve used it’s veto in the past 30 years IT DOESN’T MAKE IT RIGHT FOR RUSSIA AND CHINA TO DO SO NOW.

    Anyway why 30 years? Go back to the early days and it looks very different.

  13. @Uzbek in the UK

    “I bet many on this blog would prefer first option as it at least free us from moral responsibility of slaughter. Who (be honest) gives a toss of people slaughtered here and there, as long as we are not involved (for whatever motive). This is general criticism of left liberal within liberals. Left liberals are not satisfied with the current state of affair but western involvement makes things worse (which is true in most cases). Yes, fair enough it is understandable approach. But non-involvement does not make things better either. Especially when siding with others (non west) who still gets involved and take part in the slaughter, especially on the side of those who have least moral standing in this (slaughter).”

    I am afraid that this sort of thinking is a little too deep for many here – who I am afraid are either too conditioned by their tribal position on Iraq/Islam/Israel, an automatic assumption that it only the West is capable of imperialism and the worst abuses of human rights, and in not a few cases a lingering addiction to following the old Soviet and anti Western party line which Comrade Putin has not adopted to his mafia activities ( I appreciate this may be a little unfair the Sicillian branch who could only dream of operations on the same scale). I suspect that not a few here, if they had been around would have been condemning the UK and France for going to war over the Nazi invasion of Poland.

    They do not recognise that there is a perfectly respectable case for Liberal intervention in other countries e.g. John Stuart Mill specifically identified a number of cases where such intervention was appropriate. They also, perhaps understandably given recent history, leap to the assumption that such liberal intervention has to be in the form of a military invasion and ignore the many alternatives that need to be considered beforehand. Some also have a nasty arrogance in that they automatically assume that those who disagree with them, despite their protestations to the contrary are neo-con war hawks (or similar) who hold a position that is diametrically opposed to their own one eyed view.

    Fortunately, some of us have two eyes and we are prepared to use them and recognise that human rights are meant to be universal.

  14. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 4:59 pm

    @ Uzbek in the UK

    “No one here seem to give a toss about the fact that current Assad has inherited the throne from his farther and that the family has been running whole country like their private firm for the last 43 years. Yes, 43 years it is longer than some of royal dynasties in European history”

    _____________________

    I hope you don’t include me in the “No one here”, because I have been poking drawing readers’ attention to this medieval and absurd fact for quite a while now. Witness my broadcasting of the famly firm’s name:

    “Assad @ Sons, est. 1971. Torture, imprisonments and exiles our speciality. Gassings undertaken”.

    And while we’re about it, how about that other great medieval Monarchy, the Kims of the laughingly-styled “Democratic” Republic of North Korea? They’ve been reigning for the last 65-odd years, I believe.

    Comment from John Goss?

  15. Mary

    I’m not sure why you are asking me, who you no doubt consider to be a unreliable source, to confirm what you have been told by a source you deem to be reliable. Nevertheless, the changes in the handles I used were all pretty well documented at the time. Interesting all this suggests that Mary and others have some form of network outside this blog – perhaps this is why they assume that their opponents behave in a similar co-ordinated manner. I do trust that I am on the list of those to dealt with come the Revolution – I wouldn’t want to be left off.

  16. Habba

    I’m sure John Goss only considers the life of dynasties in relation to that of his beloved Rothchilds.

  17. I repeat, Habbabkuk (La vita è bella! 21 Jan, 2014 – 5:42 pm

    In another of his discursive comments Habbabkuk asks us to join him in celebrating an IMF prediction that UK economic growth is improving.

    “Splendid news courtesy of the IMF, whose latest forecast had upped UK growth from 1,9% to 2,4%.

    I’m certain that all here who wish the UK well will share my pleasure at this news!”

    I would be happy to join him in his celebrations if I knew what his understanding of economic growth is and how it would benefit the majority of us if it turned out to be true. He seems difficult to pin down on this and does not answer my requests for his understanding of economic growth. If it was the growth in social housing I would be celebrating with him. Likewise the growth in the number of doctors, nurses, teachers. I am eager to share his joy. I have asked him if this economic growth is GDP but he does not seem to know.

  18. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 5:08 pm

    @ Kempe, re Un vetoes

    “Anyway why 30 years? Go back to the early days and it looks very different.”
    _____________________

    Typical selective use of figures in a vain attempt to pull the wool over our eyes (the Eminences really think that everyone on here is a fool).

    You are of course correct – I invite people to check out who was vetoeing what, and how often, in the first 30 years of the UN’s existence (perhaps John Goss could help us here?).

  19. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 5:11 pm

    @ ESLO

    “Interesting all this suggests that Mary and others have some form of network outside this blog –…”
    _________________

    I believe they do – which might explain how a lot of them found each other on AlcAnon’s (alias Squonk’s) blog while this one was off the air.

  20. @Uzbek in the UK, actually there is a very simple answer, which is to encourage peaceful negotiated settlements of conflicts, and without the use of force, and without the use of immoral & indiscriminate measures such as the genocidal sanctions that were applied to Iraq for a whole decade. The principle of the sovereignty of National States, as codified in the UN Charter & International Law, with its inherent right of self-determination, is the underlying fundamental lynchpin for everything we profess to believe in, and for keeping the World from turning into an inferno of chaos, so breaking this & undermining this principle under a R2P notion is very dangerous, and in the final account, always counter-productive; dangerous because of the precedent of allowing countries the “right” to interfere in the internal conflicts of other countries, which they will do only in line with their own perceived advantage, because countries are not people, and national interests will always override moral considerations, and counter-productive for conflicts that are mostly sectarian, based on ethnic &/or religious lines, because siding with one side against another, only increases the distrust & further poisons any chance of reconciliation amongst the sides involved, which endures with a deadly lingering legacy for decades, witness the daily carnage in Iraq, and the bitter relationships, that frequently turns violent in Kosovo, between Serbs & Albanians, a power keg ready to explode once again; it’s no coincidence that the Serbs committed most of their war crimes only after the first NATO bombs started to fall, as massacres & genocides tend to mostly occur in the midst of the carnage & inhumanity of war.

    I think your remark that most here don’t give “ a toss of people slaughtered here and there”, is incorrect, and actually quite offensive.

  21. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 5:15 pm

    John Goss says this à propos my joy at the good news of accelerating UK economic growth (now forecast at 2,4%):

    “I am eager to share his joy”
    _______________________

    Now why don’t I quite believe him? :)

    PS – Will John also express eagerness to share my joy at the news that unemployment is falling (now down to 7,1%) and if so, should I believe him?

  22. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 5:21 pm

    “In another of his discursive comments Habbabkuk…..”

    ____________________

    Discursive as some of Habbabkuk’s comments might be, at least they get their facts right.

    To be noted by the author of the above, the same person who – non-discursively, of course – stated that New York Jewish financier Schiff (ca. 1918) financed…..Stalin. :)

  23. “Fortunately, some of us have two eyes and we are prepared to use them and recognise that human rights are meant to be universal.”

    My minds Eye.

    My mind’s eye cornered itself,
    Pinned itself on a blank wall,
    No longer eager to fathom
    The shapeless phantom
    That will redefine my flesh bleak
    Upon the hour fire mashes it to ash!
    This passing hour, my mind’s eye stays paused,
    Feeling unmoved in its purchased straitjacket,
    Waiting for gravity to pull on watery bags
    Under my blue, white, black paralyzed gaze
    Yawning my chapped lion mouth to sleep.
    Until, a sudden rush of fists smash vertically through.
    Crumbling the ceiling

    And dividing my room’s scratched, bruised floor,
    Inventing a new door,
    Leading to the earth’s lea!!!
    A silky, glossy, mass of carpeted grass!!!
    Incites me to see
    Irises to fan out blissfully!!!
    While adapting to this new light traveling past, fast!
    Heading to my mind’s renewed eye!
    Share!

  24. John

    While I appreciate the point that increases in GDP do not translate into improved living standards for ordinary working people – and it is still the case that median take home pay in real terms is continuing to fall (demonstrating very clearly that we are most definitely all in it together) – perhaps he might wish to try and find a period when real wages grew and there was not healthy GDP growth. I am pretty certain that he will find that GDP growth is a necessary but not sufficient condition for improvement in real living standards – and for that reason it should be welcomed.

  25. “I think your remark that most here don’t give “ a toss of people slaughtered here and there”,

    Could you point to where a toss is being given for the victims of Assad including the millions of refugees.

  26. Actually, the “network outside this blog” is AlcAnon’s Squonk blog, as Habbabkuk already knows, having visited and commented there himself. AlcAnon repeatedly posted comments here linking to squonk.tk and inviting people to read and comment there.

    I’ve been publishing my e-mail address on my contact page for years, and I’ve exchanged e-mail addresses with several people here. I’ve even met a few, as you can discover if you look through old comments.

  27. The trolls are exhibiting paranoia now. They think there is some sort of secret network to which they have been ezcluded! If they ever visited the al Hilli thread, which was kept open, they might have noticed this comment. I did. Squonk is a nice blog and full of interest especially for astronomers.

    Clark
    4 Jan, 2014 – 12:51 am
    Tim V, it was good to see you at squonk.tk do drop by again, and thanks for the link about the former French foreign minister.

    I seem to remember I went on Squonk when I found a link to Craig speaking at Nottingham Uni. in November as we did not know whether he was alive or dead! Alive thank goodness.
    http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/iaps/news/tomlinson-lecture-2013-delivered-by-craig-murray.aspx

  28. In my experience those of us who give a toss are pretty quickly singled out for treatment – why is this?

  29. ESLO, of course people here care about the Syrian civilian population, but different people believe different things. Those who believe that the Syrian conflict is driven mostly by death-squads and terrorists from outside Syria express their care by trying to expose, publicise and oppose this aspect of the conflict.

    ESLO, there are ways of forging consensus and agreement. You’d increase my faith in your motives if you’d make such an effort. You, and anyone else, are always welcome to e-mail me to discuss how debate could be improved. Sometimes argument can be more constructive if both public and private approaches are pursued.

  30. Habbabkuk’s spaceship arrived on Squonk just before Christmas as I recall and he emerged to say:

    https://squonk.tk/blog/2013/12/19/the-new-yorker-state-of-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1800

    Same old. Same old followed. 32 mentions of ‘Habbabkuk’ including when being addressed.

    Pathetic.

  31. There was an extremely unpleasant cartoon by Steve Bell in the Guardian. The Medialens editors wrote:

    Email to Guardian’s Steve Bell
    Posted by The Editors on January 23, 2014, 1:19 pm

    Hi Steve

    Regarding this week’s cartoon on Assad’s ‘selfie’ http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/jan/22/steve-bell-evidence-killing-syria , are you not at all sceptical about the timing, accuracy and provenance of the recent report on Syrian government killing and torture? You’ll know that the report was commissioned by the Qatari government which, according to the FT, has bankrolled the ‘rebels’ to the tune of $3 billion in weaponry and other support http://tinyurl.com/qdmwxrk .

    Isn’t it obvious that Qatar timed the release of the report to provide an ideal backdrop for media discussion (cartoons included) of the Geneva II peace conference? Should that not encourage a little caution and scepticism?

    Sincerely

    David Edwards

    ~~~

    There was an even more disgusting one in Murdoch’s organ by Brookes.
    https://twitter.com/BrookesTimes/status/426120769593417729/photo/1

    He sounds really pleased with himself. Probably got some brownie points for it.

  32. ESLO, I expect you’d be trusted more widely if you’d stop supporting Habbabkuk, who rarely has anything nice to say to anyone, posts offensive remarks to all and sundry, indulged in sock-puppetry, deliberately starts pointless arguments, and reveals so little about his own political beliefs. If anyone seems to “not give a toss” it’s Habbabkuk, with his constant “Life Is Good” message. Life doesn’t seem to good for the Syrians.

  33. ESLO, here’s an example of how you set yourself up for “treatment”:

    “Could you point to where a toss is being given for the victims of Assad including the millions of refugees.”

    This sentence includes the assumption that the millions of refugees are the victims exclusively of Assad. Many people here do not accept that assumption, and find it propagandistic. Do you understand?

  34. Mary, thanks for this snippet from the Financial Times:

    “the Qatari government […] has bankrolled the ‘rebels’ to the tune of $3 billion in weaponry and other support”

    No, Assad and the Syrian government certainly cannot be held solely responsible for the slaughter and exodus.

  35. Those tedious entries from Habbabkuk on Squonk ended with his critique of Arthur Scargill. Scargill was right all along when it emerged in the release of cabinet papers, after 30 years, that Thatcher HAD PLANNED to close 70 pits. She wanted it done little by little and subtly so as not to alarm the natives.

    http://labourlist.org/2014/01/how-thatcher-lied-to-the-country-during-the-miners-strike/

    http://mikesivier.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/the-lies-that-smashed-the-unions-and-destroyed-our-coal-industry/

  36. “ESLO, I expect you’d be trusted more widely if you’d stop supporting Habbabkuk, who rarely has anything nice to say to anyone, posts offensive remarks to all and sundry, indulged in sock-puppetry, deliberately starts pointless arguments, and reveals so little about his own political beliefs. If anyone seems to “not give a toss” it’s Habbabkuk, with his constant “Life Is Good” message. Life doesn’t seem to good for the Syrians.”

    Unlike dear Clark, of course, who isn’t above the odd vituperative post himself, has been caught using his moderator’s privilege to edit his posts mid-debate, and has never, ever resorted to sock-puppetry. Mr nice guy hippy loves to portray his innocence in every matter.

  37. Correcting my grammar and a typo in my post @ 5.40pm

    ‘The trolls are exhibiting paranoia now. They think that there is some sort of secret network from which they have been excluded!’

  38. Oh Patience! Where Art Thou?

    Perhaps the ‘recovery’ is more smoke and mirrors than reality.

    Remember his words when it all goes pear-shaped.

    23 January 2014
    Cameron: UK’s economic recovery will need ‘patience’

    David Cameron: “It’s going to take time and we need to be patient”

    Davos 2014
    Carney: No immediate rate rise needed
    Peston: Bankers back in PM’s tent
    Abe urges Asia military restraint
    Europe downturn not over, say bosses

    Prime Minister David Cameron has told the BBC that a sustained economic recovery must be one which is balanced between “north and south”.

    Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, the prime minister said that the economy needs rebalancing.

    He said: “In the case of Britain we need to rebalance our economy and make sure it’s a north and south recovery – manufacturing as well as services.”

    But Mr Cameron said that economic recovery will take “patience”.

    He added that the government needs to deal with “excessive deficits and our broken banking system”, but he was confident that the UK could attract investment and manufacturers.

    Housing bubble?

    “We are a very welcoming economy,” he said.

    When asked if people would see an improvement in their living standards, he said that there have been positive movements in employment. And, he said in the interview with BBC business editor Robert Peston: “We are seeing positive signs on take-home pay.”

    When asked if he was concerned by a potential housing bubble or other asset bubble in the UK, Mr Cameron said that the Bank of England was fully independent, and that it was the Bank’s job to “identify” and to “deal with” any asset bubble.

    “We should leave it to them, not politicians.”

    But he said that a recovery in the housing market was “welcome”.

    “You do need a market where people can buy houses, move house, find work, and that drives a lot of activity in the economy,” the prime minister said.

    Mr Cameron said the economic revival needed to be balanced, and that “living within our means” was vital to a sustained global recovery.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25868096

  39. Anon, when I had moderator access, I did occasionally correct my own typographic, grammatical and spelling errors. Considering that the work-load of moderation caused me to rush the composition of my comments, I consider this acceptable. I did not alter the meaning of any of my own comments.

    I have used sock-puppetry twice, many years ago, before I knew it to be wrong. The first instance was merely a joke. I used “Recursive” as my name because it seemed appropriate to the comment I was making. The other occasion I will not reveal, as I was protecting someone else’s identity by hiding my own. I have never used sock-puppetry to post an offensive comment while concealing my identity, nor to falsely bolster an argument by appearing to be more than one person.

    Do you claim otherwise? If not, what harm do you see in what I did?

  40. Mary,

    Read comment at “January 21, 2014 at 2:01 pm”

    http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/more-poverty-more-homelessness-more-deaths-labour-set-out-a-vision-for-workfare-britain/

    If that is “Mike Sivier” ?, he is a big supporter of the far right NuLabour party and no mistake.

  41. “Margaret Thatcher branded Arthur Scargill and the other leaders of the 1984-5 miners’ strike ;’the enemy within’. With the publication of this bestselling book a decade later, the full irony of that accusation became clear. There was an enemy within. But it was not the National Union of Mineworkers that was out to subvert liberty. It was the secret services of the British state – operating inside the NUM itself. Seumas Milne revealed for the first time the astonishing lengths to which the government and its intelligence machine were prepared to go to destry the power of Britain’s miners’ union. Using phoney bank deposits, staged cash drops, forged documents, agents provocateurs and unrelenting surveillance, MI5 and police Special Branch set out to discredit Scargill and other miners’ leaders. Planted tales of corruption were seized on by the media and both Tory and Labour politicians in what became an unprecedentedly savage smear campaign. In this new edition, published for the twentieth anniversary of Britain’s most important postwar social confrontation, new material brings the story up to date – and, in the wake of the Iraq war intelligence scandals, highlights the continuing threat posed by the security services to democracy today.”

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Enemy-within-Thatchers-Against/dp/1844675084/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390505966&sr=8-1&keywords=the+enemy+within+miners

  42. “Former NUM chief was police informer”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/true_spies/2351547.stm

  43. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 8:03 pm

    From the Resident Denigrator:

    “Habbabkuk’s spaceship arrived on Squonk just before Christmas as I recall and he emerged to say:

    https://squonk.tk/blog/2013/12/19/the-new-yorker-state-of-deception/comment-page-1/#comment-1800

    Same old. Same old followed. 32 mentions of ‘Habbabkuk’ including when being addressed.

    Pathetic.
    ___________________

    Yes indeed, I discovered Squonk’s blog just before Xmas….and was heartened to find old Mary posting away merrily with her usual sort of stuff. After getting over my shock at her unfaithfulnesss to Craig’s blog (she had obviously got herself a new groom, so to speak) I of course felt impelled to correct some rubbish or other she had written; that is the source she quotes in this post.

    I offer the following thought : does every Mary deserve her Habbabkuk?

  44. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 8:05 pm

    Question from Mary:

    “Isn’t it obvious that Qatar timed the release of the report to provide an ideal backdrop for media discussion (cartoons included) of the Geneva II peace conference? Should that not encourage a little caution and scepticism?”

    Answers from Habbabkuk:

    1/. Yes

    2/. Not necessarily.

  45. Wake up in the back.

    ‘“Isn’t it obvious that Qatar timed the release of the report to provide an ideal backdrop for media discussion (cartoons included) of the Geneva II peace conference? Should that not encourage a little caution and scepticism?”’

    That was not my question. It was David Edwards; question, one of the Medialens editors, addressed to the cartoonist Steve Bell. That was obvious and you are becoming extremely boring.

  46. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 8:15 pm

    @ Clark:

    “ESLO, I expect you’d be trusted more widely if you’d stop supporting Habbabkuk”
    ___________________

    What makes you think that ESLO wishes to be trusted more widely by the likes of you and the other Eminences? He can speak for himself, of course, but I should imagine that he is more interested in correcting the more obvious absurdities posted here.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “posts offensive remarks to all and sundry”
    _________________

    Not to all and sundry, just to the more egregious loonies
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “…and reveals so little about his own political beliefs.”

    _____________________

    Leaving aside the rather Stalinist tone of that remark (“CONFESS!!”), I think that anyone with more than a handful of grey cells wouldn’t have much difficulty in knowing where I stand on the various issues I address.

  47. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 8:20 pm

    Mary says:

    “Those tedious entries from Habbabkuk on Squonk ended with his critique of Arthur Scargill. Scargill was right all along when it emerged in the release of cabinet papers, after 30 years, that Thatcher HAD PLANNED to close 70 pits. She wanted it done little by little and subtly so as not to alarm the natives”
    __________________

    Leaving aside the question of whose posts – Mary’s or mine – are more tedious, shortly after posting on Arthur Scargill I read somewhere that far more pits had been closed under the Labour govts of Harold Wilson and Jim Callaghan than under Margaret Thatcher. Presumably Wilson and Callaghan also planned those pit closures as opposed to doing so in a fit of absent-mindednesss?

  48. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 8:29 pm

    @ Mary

    “Wake up in the back.

    ‘“Isn’t it obvious that Qatar timed the release of the report to provide an ideal backdrop for media discussion (cartoons included) of the Geneva II peace conference? Should that not encourage a little caution and scepticism?”’”
    _____________________

    Firstly, thanks for that swift – very swift – response, Mary.

    Secondly, as you posted that comment from someone else (with every indication of approving the sentiment expressed therein, and as you’re easier to get in touch with than David Edwards, I thought I’d give you my answers to those two questions.

    No problem with that, surely?

  49. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 8:35 pm

    Since Arthur Scargill and the great miners’ strike have made an O/T reappearance on this thread thanks to Mary, I feel entitled to ask the following question:

    How should the govt of the day have dealt with the UK coal-mining industry (‘dealt with’ in the sense of its future, I mean)?

    Considered thoughts welcome.

  50. doug scorgie

    23 Jan, 2014 - 8:55 pm

    Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!
    23 Jan, 2014 – 4:59 pm

    “Assad @ Sons, est. 1971. Torture, imprisonments and exiles our speciality. Gassings undertaken”.

    Habbabkuk,
    Assad and his regime are a bunch of criminals and I don’t support them but I don’t support forced regime change either.

    You must be aware that the US/UK/Israel don’t give a shit about the Syrian people or democracy in that country.

    The UK government had refused to accept Syrian refugees from the UN camps until pressure on Cameron forced a U-turn.

    Assad has passed his best-before date for western geo-political reasons but until 2011 Assad was feted by the West:

    “Following an audience with the Queen, on day three of his visit to Britain, Mr Assad was meeting the Prince of Wales as well as opposition leaders Iain Duncan Smith and Charles Kennedy.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-151701/President-Assad-meets-Queen.html#ixzz2rFqhw8Qo

    Also

    “Revealed: Britain sold nerve gas chemicals to Syria 10 months after ‘civil unrest’ began”

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/revealed-britain-sold-nerve-gas-2242520

    So the US/UK/Israel are not supplying weapons and aid to the rebels for humanitarian reasons are they?

  51. Now here’s a thing or two.

    A British lawyer advises people to visit Israel and see what is really happening to Palestinian children in the military court system.

    ‘Secondly, those who consider that stories of systemic breaches of human rights under the occupation are an anti-Israel myth are deluding themselves.

    We spent a morning at the military courts observing young Palestinian boys, aged 13-17, being processed, and speaking to their mothers. It is clear that children are invariably arrested in night raids by the army at gunpoint, cuffed and blindfolded and held, often for hours, in that condition, denied access to food, water and toilet facilities, interrogated without being advised of their rights, without a lawyer and without their parents.’

    http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate/comment/114819/take-a-lawyers-advice-visit-occupied-territories

    and our Ambassador to Israel advises the Israelis that they are losing support.

    ‘Israel is losing support across Europe due to its approach to the Palestinians and West Bank settlements, Britain’s ambassador in Tel Aviv has warned.

    Matthew Gould said changes were “slowly” becoming apparent in the way British politicians and the media approached Israel.

    “I love Israel and I worry that in another five years Israel will wake up and find that the country won’t have enough friends,” he said.’

    http://www.thejc.com/node/115008

    Perhaps the JC on a mission to disarm the critics.

  52. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    23 Jan, 2014 - 9:37 pm

    Scorgie

    “Assad and his regime are a bunch of criminals and I don’t support them…”
    _______________

    Very glad to hear that. Took you long enough.

  53. “Developer finds Chrome eavesdropping bug”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25859360

  54. Mary.
    You are still not following your own good advice and scrolling past the trolls. They are no more interest than passing clouds. Their job is to fill space so that logical discussion is harder to follow. You have to scroll past: Nevermind, ESLO Habbabkuk, Des Res, Fred, anything after the second volley from Tony_Opmoc because too much information, and anyone else including Guano, especially Guano when he’s talking bXXXXXXX about Islam and Muslims.

    You don’t dig the garden when it’s out of season. Put your muck on and let the worms do the rest. Leave the worms alone. Please.
    It takes more finger exercise scrolling down. Nil carborundum.

    The corpse portrayed in Steve Bell’s cartoon, whoever’s victims they may have been, are now in Heaven. The atheist Assad is portrayed as a terrified, red-eyed, maniac. That is how it is, however upsetting. We have to prepare for the worst, that the US will take him out sometime soon, and many of the Alawi people will be slaughtered. The Qur’an states that many of those who rejected Jesus, peace be upon him, were similarly slaughtered because they rejected the tenets of faith which Jesus pbuh rehearsed for them.

    Now in Geneva 2, John Kerry is witnessing for himself that Assad is beyond the common ground of any of the people of the book, Jewish, Christian or Muslim. He is nothing more than a Draculan Zombie obsessed with murder and power.

  55. Hey Guano, who you calling a troll?

    You want a flame war? I’ll give you a flame war to end all flame wars if that’s what you want.

    Otherwise cut out the name calling.

    Understand?

  56. Guano I do not engage in discussions with the trolls. Any comments are usually indirect.

    Furthermore, Nevermind is definitely not a troll. He is a decent person. I think you should make a correction.

  57. “Nevermind is definitely not a troll. He is a decent person. I think you should make a correction.”

    And apology.

  58. Mary
    23 Jan, 2014 – 9:34 pm

    “It is clear that children are invariably arrested in night raids by the army at gunpoint, cuffed and blindfolded and held, often for hours, in that condition, denied access to food, water and toilet facilities…”

    This denial of food, water and toilet facilities is an IDF tactic aimed at causing distress and humiliation.

    The people who took part in the 2010 Gaza flotilla, which was attacked by the IDF killing nine unarmed activists, were arrested and subjected to this tactic.

    No food; no water; no toilet facilities. Many of the activists had no choice but to urinate and defecate in their clothes (No doubt there will be sniggering from certain posters on this blog about this.)

    The same tactic is used by the police in the UK, mainly the Met, to intimidate and humiliate peaceful protesters; it’s called kettling and is aimed at dissuading people from protesting in future.

  59. Guano, they just don’t get your sense of humour, do they? Don’t worry, you make me laugh. You should be more careful with footballers’ gestures, however; you never know where they’ve been.

    Look folks, Guano called himself a troll! How can you possibly take so seriously someone who calls himself “industrial quantities of batshit”?

  60. BrianFujisan

    24 Jan, 2014 - 2:25 am

    Mary @ yesterday…8;32 am

    A section from the transcript that ( i think ) you were asking about…

    Now, lost in the daily reports of violence is the fact that this revolution did not begin as an armed resistance. This started peacefully. It was started by schoolboys in Daraa who are armed only with graffiti cans, citizens who were peacefully and legitimately calling for change. And they were met almost immediately with violence. When their parents came out to protest the arrest of the children, 120 people died. That was the beginning.
    And tragically, the Assad regime answered peaceful demonstration after peaceful demonstration with ever-increasing force. In the three years since then, this conflict has now left more than 130,000 dead, and it’s hard to count accurately. We all know that. The fact is that these people have been killed by guns, by tanks, by artillery, by gas, by barrel bombs, by Scud missiles. They’ve been killed by weapons almost exclusively of the magnitude not possessed by the opposition. Starvation has been used as a weapon of war. And most recently, we have seen horrific reports of systematic torture and execution of thousands of prisoners. This is an appalling assault, not only on human lives, but on human dignity and on every standard by which the international community tries to organize itself, recognizing the horrors of the humanitarian catastrophe that has unfolded, the destabilization of neighboring countries, and the endless exile of refugees.

    SO we should forget clinton, Cameron, admitions…that they were funding, arming the evil monsters…FROM THE START

    Mary Kerry full transcript @ –

    http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/texttrans/2014/01/20140122291401.html#axzz2rHHZLfzZ

  61. BrianFujisan

    24 Jan, 2014 - 2:48 am

    OOOPs sorry i missed seeing you had found it yourself Mary…was not easy was it

    Anyway Further to all this….

    from a few months ago –

    “There can be little doubt that the lifting of the arms embargo to the armed insurgents and terrorist groups operating in Syria is one of the most egregiously callous, self-serving, reckless and irresponsible moves made by the international community since the beginning of the internal conflict in the country.

    The West’s complete and total lack of regard for the precious lives of innocent Syrian civilians, including all non-Muslims, non-Sunnis, Jews, Christians and ethnic minority groups is mind-boggling in its persistence, premeditation and complete and total lack of anything resembling humanity.

    The West has once again truly shown the entire planet, that is anyone with their eyes half open, its monstrous and evil face when it comes to Syria. It is evident in everything the West has done in Syria. From the day the Western “masters” decided that elected President Bashar al-Assad had to go because he was not a Western puppet, to the instigating and fueling of the internal conflict, to the bellicose rhetoric AND ENDLESS SANTIONS, to the actual real and documented funding, arming and importing of every kind of terrorist, mercenary and killer under the sun, the West has shown time and time again that they will do absolutely anything to bring about their ends, while packaging it in marketable terms evoking righteousness and pride by calling it “iron resolve”, “taking the lead” and “ridding the world of evil”.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-has-the-right-to-peace-and-to-self-defense-despite-western-claims/5337694

  62. BrianFujisan

    24 Jan, 2014 - 3:00 am

    Here are the top three Western media lies about the Syrian peace talks.

    1) The removal of Syrian Bashar al-Assad was an agreed upon “precondition” for the Geneva II peace talks.

    This lie has been repeated over and over by government and media alike. It has zero basis. The Obama administration claims that this precondition was expressed in the “Geneva communiqué,” which was a road map agreement meant to guide the Geneva II peace talks, agreed upon by some of the major parties of the negotiations, including Russia.
    The communiqué does indeed call for a negotiated political transition, but nowhere does it state that such a transition cannot include President Assad. Such a condition would have been outright rejected by Russia.
    In fact, the Geneva communiqué includes this crucial statement:
    “[a transition government] could include members of the present [Syrian] government and the opposition and other groups and shall be formed on the basis of mutual consent.” Nowhere does it specifically mention or imply President Assad.
    The Los Angeles Times recently stepped out of line and exposed this lie:
    “[John] Kerry regularly cites the “Geneva communiqué,” a kind of peace road map hammered out in June 2012 during a United Nations-organized summit. But the document does not explicitly call for Assad’s ouster.”
    The Obama administration’s constant repeating of this lie only causes divisions in the peace process, undermining the chances that the peace process will succeed.
    The Obama administration is especially adamant about this “Assad must go” pre-condition because it knows that, if free and fair elections were held tomorrow in Syria — as part of a UN-backed “transitional process”— President Assad would likely win. This is the result of the ethnic and religious minorities in Syria that have rallied behind President Assad, since they’ve witnessed the consistent religious sectarian atrocities committed by the U.S.-backed rebels (which the U.S. media loves to ignore or minimize).
    Assad would probably win an election since there is also simply no one else on the government side or the opposition side with his name recognition or popularity. The U.S.-backed rebel war in Syria has vastly strengthened Assad’s political hand, but you wouldn’t know it from the Western, anti-Syrian media.
    Demanding Assad’s ouster also does not reflect the situation on the ground. The U.S.-backed rebels have never controlled more than one Syrian city, namely Raqaa, which is dominated by al-Qaeda and is governed under a Taliban-style interpretation of Islamic law, which includes a strict ban on music. Thus, the rebels don’t have the ground power that would even enable them to make the demand that “Assad must go”.

    2) The U.S.-backed rebel militias are “moderate” Islamic groups.
    The fact that this lie can even be uttered publicly without encountering ridicule is a major success of Western media propaganda. The media narrative paints the U.S.-backed “good” rebels fighting both the Syrian government and the “bad” al-Qaeda linked rebels.
    But the “good” rebels in the U.S.-backed Islamic Front share the same vision for Syria’s future as the al-Qaeda rebels: a fundamentalist version of Sharia law, where women live in virtual house arrest and where religious minorities are second class citizens (non-Sunni Muslims would simply be butchered, as they are on a regular basis in Syria, which is again minimized or ignored in the Western media.)
    The “moderate rebel” lie was further exposed recently when a top leader in the most powerful militia, Ahrar al Sham, within the Islamic Front declared Ahrar al Sham to be the “real” representative of al-Qaeda in Syria, as opposed to the rival al-Qaeda faction that the Islamic Front had recently begun fighting.
    Ahrar al Sham has long been known to be an al-Qaeda type Islamist extremist group; the Western media simply chose to ignore it. But when it was recently made official, the U.S. media chose to continue its ignoring stance, since actually reporting on it would destroy their “moderate rebel” lie. The Western media also continues to ignore the fact that the “moderate” U.S.-backed Islamic Front issued a joint statement that aligned itself to the extremist views of Ahrar al Sham, the “real” al-Qaeda.

    3) New Evidence of Syrian government “industrial scale” torture.
    The Western media recently blasted the “breaking news” of brand new evidence showing massive “NAZI-like” torture and murder by the Syrian government, released at the beginning of the Syrian peace talks. This may or may not be true, but the lie here is that the Western media promoted the “evidence” as being unquestionably true, when the story doesn’t reach first base when it comes to evidence-based journalism.
    All we really know is that there are hundreds of pictures of dead people that a “trusted source” says were killed by the Syrian government. The trusted source was designated as such by pro-Western intellectuals, who have earned professional “credibility” by helping convict war criminals in the International Criminal Court [ICC]. But as author Diane Johnstone pointed out in her excellent book “Fools Crusade,” about the war against Yugoslavia — as well as in other articles — the ICC has long been used by western powers as a tool to create a pretext for war, or a tool to justify a war after the fact.
    The evidence of the “NAZI-like” atrocities was written in a study paid for by the government of Qatar, which has long funneled cash, guns, and Jihadis to Syria in aid of the anti-government rebels.
    Again, we don’t know if the story is true or not. But such an important investigation should be conducted by the UN or another more objective institution. The same biased dynamic occurred in relation to the infamous chemical weapons attack, where no real evidence was provided, though an unending string of “experts” were quoted in the Western media, testifying to the guilt of the Syrian Government. But when Pulitzer prizewinning journalist Seymour Hirsch reported that the Obama administration lied about the rebels not having the capacity to perform such an attack, the Western media simply ignored the legend of journalism. The wrench in the propaganda machine was simply dislodged.
    How do these lies become such permanent fixtures in the Western media? An excellent article in the Guardian newspaper recently discussed in depth the principal sources the Western media has used to understand the Syrian conflict.
    The article exposed the incredible bias of some of the most important Western media sources on Syria, which is why they were handpicked in the first place to be “expert” sources: they had political agendas that were aligned with the U.S. government’s foreign policy decisions. The other side of the conflict was completely ignored, except when it was targeted for ridicule. Thus, Americans and Europeans have a completely one-sided, if not fantasy-based perspective of what is happening in Syria. This has been systematic since the beginning of the conflict, as happened with the Yugoslav, Afghan, Iraq, and Libya wars.
    The result of this media-led ignorance could result in yet more unnecessary deaths in a country that now has millions of refugees and over a 100,000 dead. Obama seems like he intends to exploit these peace talks with the intention of blaming the Syrian government for their failure. Having failed to defeat Assad on the battlefield in a proxy war, the Obama administration is trying to win the propaganda war. And once peace talks have failed, talk of war will resume, since “all other options have failed.”

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/media-spin-machine-in-high-gear-top-three-media-lies-about-the-syrian-peace-talks/5366099

  63. Daniel Rich That is a must read by Pepe Escobar for its irony alone apart from hearing of the antics of the gangsters-in-charge attending Davos.

    I put up an earlier link to another of Escobar’s on the Syrian talks, ‘Syria and the Geneva 2 charade’
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/01/syria-and-diplomacy/#comment-438615

    This photo sums Davos up.

    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Beq7nzWCUAEAa4w.jpg

    The Banks And Parties Are Back
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2011/01/26/liz-claman-at-davos-the-banks-and-parties-are-back/

  64. So let me get this right.

    The US are financing Al-Qaeda in Syria.

    So it must be the case then that under US created laws in the War On Terror the US should arrest itself for aiding and abetting a terrorist organisation,should have its finances frozen and fly itslf to Guantanamo Bay in order to torture itself for years?

    Is that how the law is meant to work yes?

  65. @ Jives,

    You forgot to put us on a rendition flight to a torture friendly client state to be [for once] at the receiving end of the same enhanced interrogation techniques we shot ‘em Japs for.

    The western hypocrisy stinks worse than the rotting corpses in my in-laws’ basement.

  66. @ Mary,

    Don’t fight fire with fire. Piss on it.

  67. Live Q&A with Edward Snowden: Thursday 23rd January, 2014
    http://www.freesnowden.is/asksnowden/

  68. The Western Powers need to realise that Catch-22 was a satire not a manual.

    The madness,lies and incompetence masquerading as foreign policy and conflict strategy in Syria would stagger even Joseph Heller id imagine.

  69. Nevermind from War Criminals:
    “If he would had made such a guesture playing in Germany, he would have acted unlawful. I despise public expressions such as this, regardless of whether they come from Anelka or from anybody else, as they are giving voice to fascists who argue with each other, but are essentially out to commit the same attrocities and justify them to the world with some inane crap, are essentially supressing views that are contrare to their regime.”

    Anelka is out to commit the same atrocities as Zionists?

    If it do come to pass
    That any man turn ass,
    Leaving his wealth and ease
    A stubborn will to please,
    Ducdame, ducdame, ducdame.
    Here shall he see
    Gross fools as he,
    An if he will come to me.

    Shakespeare’s As You Like It.

    http://shaksper.net/archive/2007/254-october/25838-observation-about-ducdame

    I cannot understand why Nevermind thinks that minding about the Anti-Islam politics of Zionism will turn into another Fascism.
    Muslims should just accept the War on Terror?

    And yet when Al Qaida strikes back at the utter jelly of Neo-Liberalism which has allowed Assad to bomb his own citizens for 3 years, and torture them for decades, the West points the finger at them.

    If Zionist militancy is the same as Islamic militancy, why is the zionist state war on terror okay, and the Islamist response not okay?

    I’ve a mind to add BrianFujisan to my list of trolls for this idiotic comment above: “f free and fair elections were held tomorrow in Syria ……President Assad would likely win.”

    We all say daft things from time to time but this is surely the most wishful of wishful thinking of Islamophobes.

    I sat yesterday among a group of UK electricians who exuded embarrassment at the presence of a bearded Muslim. They were so busy covering up their delight at the excesses of Al Qaida and the plight of Assad’s victims they could hardly sit in the same room. What better solution to the Muslims’ miseries than for the UK to legitimise his criminal regime?

    Also Mark Golding seems to have gone into mad Shi’a mode, which is surprising since he has experienced them in Iraq at first hand.

    I apologise to Someone, for putting him on my list of trolls.

  70. Beelzebub (La Vita è Finita)

    24 Jan, 2014 - 11:53 am

    Clark/Jon: More than I intended. Last paragraph and link are all that are necessary to contradict my biblical friend’s snark re a John Goss post. Please delete the rest if you see this.

  71. “Scotland: the police state”

    Yes, it is most worrying the direction Scotland is going in. Especially the amalgamation of the police forces into one and the attempts to abolish corroboration.

    “poverty and desperation”

    I don’t think the people’s reaction could be shown to be a result of poverty and desperation. Just human nature.

  72. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    24 Jan, 2014 - 12:17 pm

    @ Beelzebub (in respect of his inordinately long post):

    “Clark/Jon: More than I intended. Last paragraph and link are all that are necessary to contradict my biblical friend’s snark re a John Goss post. Please delete the rest if you see this.”
    ___________________

    What a relief to see that there is at least one other poster as inept as I am when it comes to manipulating computers and using a blog! :)

    *******************

    “Life is getting better, life is getting merrier” (J.Stalin, ca. 1932)

  73. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    24 Jan, 2014 - 12:27 pm

    “..“there is a report in the State Department files that names Kuhn, Loeb & Co. (the long established and important financial house in New York) as the financier of the First Five Year Plan. See U. S. State Dept. Decimal File, 811.51/3711 and 861.50 FIVE YEAR PLAN/236.””..”
    ______________________

    There are, I suspect, many inaccurate reports in the archives of State and, indeed, in these of many other Foreign Ministries.

    There are reports in the FO and without doubt in various European Chancelleries which assert with confidence that Adolf Hitler was merely a German gentleman who represented no threat to peace in Europe.

    Not to mention a report from our host Craig, written while en poste in Warsaw, that Polish emigration to the UK post-2004 would be measured in the thousands…

  74. Clark
    Thanks for that. Have you ever thought of a career as a mental health nurse? Give them a link to your contributions here and I’m sure you’ll get an invitation.

  75. Thanks Doug – good response.

  76. Syricide ‏@Syricide Jan 20
    @ShoebridgeC Check out Carter-Ruck & Co the law firm that commissioned this report – a lot of Saudi customers
    http://www.carter-ruck.com/International%20Law/Recent_Work.asp

    Charles Shoebridge
    @ShoebridgeC
    Listen (at 9.40) to eminent author of #Qatar funded #Syria abuse report. Q.Could photos be faked? A. No. Well, maybe.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03q8z45

  77. Beelzebub (La Vita è Finita)

    24 Jan, 2014 - 1:21 pm

    H – Looks like the whole piece was removed. Ok, leave it. It’s rather hard to find any reference to Schiff’s activities other than on rightwing nutter sites or NWO sites. This link- http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/appendix_02.htm gives what looks like a sane assessment of Schiff/Loeb’s alleged funding of the Revolution and its aftermath. The accusation of circular citation is correct: most of the allegations seem to have been based on the observations of a White Russian general who may just have had an axe to grind. One very plausible reason for Schiff’s involvement may have been that he is on record as having believed (against Herzl et al) that there should not be a Jewish state, that Jews should remain in the nations in which they lived, and that the Bolsheviks would encourage this by ending the persecution of Russian Jews which was routine under the Tsar.

    The conclusion of the piece raises a question which may still be relevant.

  78. Good to see you “back in action”, Craig :)
    Cheers from Finland

  79. Brian

    Once again our corrupt and perverted state broadcaster is complicit in a pre-emptive media offensive by launching a dossier on torture and murder of detainees by the Assad government just before Genever II.

    How hypocritical is that? The BBC report is a disgrace!

    There would be a good dossier to be issued on torture in detention in Qatar, and the lives of slave workers there.

    The report was commissioned by the government of Qatar who commissioned latent scientologist **Carter Ruck** to do it. Qatar is an infamous suppressor of free speech.

    What is reprehensible is that the BBC are presenting the report as though it were produced by neutral experts, whereas the opposite is the case. It is produced not by anti torture campaigners or by human rights activists, but by lawyers who are doing it purely and simply because they are being paid to do it.

  80. Indeed, Mark. In his most recent article, Robert Fisk made similar points, and asked why the likes of HRW and Amnesty were not involved.

    Curveball/Caesar; tall tales and “incontrovertible” proof. The M.O. is pretty familiar by now.

  81. Those who think that the support for millitants is always due to principled knowledge have only got to look at the money bags who support slaughter.

    In the 1930′ fascists Germany’s car production of GM cars, Opel for that matter, was not compromised as much as the allies wanted to cut off Germany from its suppliers.

    Zionists have an interests to support islamic militias in the commercial aims. And those who, like Guano, think that an islamic militia has no fascists tendencies, when they are confronted daily with the excesses of religious righteousness and singleminded stubborn killing of ‘otherthinking’ are deluding themselves.

    It was easy for Guano to spread his fertile mind here, our liberal ears are open and responsive to all and sundry. How would we fear on his favourite blog, I wonder….

  82. Beelzebub (La Vita è Finita)

    24 Jan, 2014 - 3:21 pm

    ‘The report was commissioned by the government of Qatar who commissioned latent scientologist **Carter Ruck** to do it. Qatar is an infamous suppressor of free speech.’

    So is Carter Ruck. Allegedly. Which usually means the legal firm specialising in suppressing….err… allegedly…rather than its founder, Peter Carter-Ruck.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter-Ruck

  83. NGO Propaganda: Who is Behind the Massacres in Syria? Avaaz Spreads Media Disinformation

    By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
    Global Research, January 22, 2014

    Avaaz, which presents itself as an alternative media and an independent voice, is part of a corporate public relations campaign. Avaaz will report on civilian casualties in Syria without mentioning the influx of US-Saudi sponsored terrorists.

    Who is behind the atrocities in Syria?

    Avaaz will casually blame the government of Bashar Al Assad for killing civilians. It will accuse the government of using chemical weapons when the evidence amply confirms that the US-NATO-GCC supported rebels were behind the August 21st chemical weapons attacks.

    The deployment of death squads supported by the Western military alliance is never mentioned.

    Avaaz does not acknowledge that government forces are fighting a terrorist insurgency.

    Nor do they mention that the US government has direct contacts with Al Qaeda affiliated rebels.

    Avaaz calls for an opinion poll ahead of the Geneva talks.

    Avaaz calls for a ceasefire.

    /..
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/ngo-propaganda-who-is-behind-the-massacres-in-syria-avaaz-spreads-media-disinformation/5365813

    Justification for having nothing whatsoever to do with Avaaz.

  84. Nevermind

    I have often said that the Fascist tendencies of individual Muslims are excusable if they have been hung upside down, electrocuted in the private parts, beaten to pulp with cables, left in detention in a crowded cell for years.

    What’s to excuse about the Fascists tendencies of a senior political UK figure, educated to the hilt, paid to the hilt, but wants to gravy-train the Zionist anti-Islam agenda?

    You see, in my mind there is no excuse at all for priveledged people to sacrifice their principles and consciences for more, while I can excuse the control=freak mentality of those who have survived utter subjection to the tyranny of their human brothers.

    Not that you care.

  85. Mary “Avaaz does not acknowledge that government forces are fighting a terrorist insurgency.”

    The only reason there is an insurgency in Syria is because, being outside the fold of all its neighbours, Jewish, Christian or Muslim, the Alawis have remained solidly unmoved by compassion to the people that France put them in control over as a colonial power.

    The normal response to an individual who has no remorse or compassion is life encarceration, in liberal societies, or death in others. This Geneva 2 is the Assad regime’s last chance. They are arguing that no-one has the right to intervene with their rule. OK let’s just let the paedophiles and criminals take over. The international community can only restrain itself from intervention until Assad has openly proved his intransigence in an international arena.

    Kerry will be telling Obama that it’s time for war.

  86. Syria regime ‘may quit Geneva II talks’

    Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem has threatened to walk out of peace talks in Geneva just hours after they began, state media have said.

    Mr Muallem told UN envoy Lakhdar Brahimi he would quit if “serious” discussions had not begun by Saturday.

    The regime and the opposition have refused to meet face-to-face and are communicating through Mr Brahimi.

    Diplomats say they are now aiming at small concessions such as local truces rather than an overall peace deal.

    Both sides blame each other for the lack of progress.

    /..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25880727

    Later in this piece, it is apparent that the BBC are still using the man in the flat above a shop in the Midlands for a situation report on Syria!

  87. “I have often said that the Fascist tendencies of individual Muslims are excusable if they have been hung upside down, electrocuted in the private parts, beaten to pulp with cables, left in detention in a crowded cell for years.”

    Thanks for explaining your personal preferences in dealing with individual Muslims who don’t confer to your ideals, I find engaging and showing the error of their ways to be far more effective in exposing their simple minds.

    “Not that you care.” Well, Guano, not in the way you care.

    @ Mary, thanks for that, AAvaz has got through to me on occasions, but I always found their petitions to be polished and failing to be to the point, vague even. I must scrutinise more…….

  88. Human Rights Council
    Twenty-second session

    Human rights situation in Palestine and other occupied Arab territories

    Report of the independent international fact-finding mission to investigate the implications of the Israeli settlements on the civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights of the Palestinian people throughout the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem

    Summary
    The present report is submitted pursuant to resolution 19/17 in which the Human
    Rights Council decided to establish an independent international fact-finding mission to investigate the implications of the Israeli settlements on the human rights of the Palestinian people throughout the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem.

    
The new UN report is the result of a mission investigating Israeli settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

    Information gathered by the mission shows that private firms have enabled, facilitated and profited, directly and indirectly, from the construction and growth of the settlements. It identified a number of business activities that raise particular concerns about abuses of human rights. They include:

    • The supply of equipment and materials facilitating the construction of settlements and Israel’s wall in the West Bank;

    •The supply of surveillance and identification equipment for settlements, the wall and military checkpoints;

    • The supply of equipment for the demolition of housing and property, including the destruction of farms, greenhouses, olives groves and crops,;

    • The supply of security services, equipment and materials to businesses operating in settlements;

    • The provision of transport and other services to support the maintenance of settlements;

    • Banking and financial operations helping to develop, expand or maintain settlements and their activities, including loans for housing and business development;

    • The use of natural resources, in particular water and land, for business purposes;

    • Pollution, dumping and transfer of waste to Palestinian villages;

    • The way Palestinian financial and economic markets are held captive by Israel, as well as practices that disadvantage Palestinian businesses, including through restrictions on movement, and administrative and legal constraints.

    According to the new report, companies active in the settlements are fully aware that they are abusing international law and contributing to violations of human rights.

    It also states that Israel labels all its export products as originating from Israel, including those wholly or partially produced in settlements. Some companies operating in settlements have been accused of hiding the original place of production of their products.

    The mission also notes that some businesses have pulled out of settlements because it harms their image and might entail legal consequences.

    The mission urges private companies to cease operating in the settlements and calls upon all Member States to comply with their obligations under international law and to assume their responsibilities in their relationship to a State breaching peremptory norms of international law – specifically not to recognise an unlawful situation resulting from Israel’s violations.

    The report also notes that private companies must assess the human rights impact of their activities and take all necessary steps – including by terminating their business interests in the settlements – to ensure they are not adversely impacting the human rights of the Palestinian People. The Mission calls upon all Member States to take appropriate measures to ensure that business enterprises domiciled in their territory and/or under their jurisdiction, including those owned or controlled by them, that conduct activities in or related to the settlements respect human rights throughout their operations.

    http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/RegularSession/Session19/FFM/FFMSettlements.pdf

    Note item in bold.

  89. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    24 Jan, 2014 - 5:03 pm

    @ Beelzebub

    Yes, let’s leave it. I don’t know whether Schiff financed Bolsheviks or not at the beginning of the 20th century and don’t care very much either. My point was merely that Mr Goss was in error when he once confidently asserted that Schiff financed Stalin….which seems unlikely given that Stalin was hardly a leading light in the party at the time. And my larger underlying point was that Mr Goss has a tendency to play fast and loose with the facts.

    So, although you are in the flames of Hell and I am ascended unto Heaven,….peace!
    :)

  90. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    24 Jan, 2014 - 5:12 pm

    “It also states that Israel labels all its export products as originating from Israel, including those wholly or partially produced in settlements. Some companies operating in settlements have been accused of hiding the original place of production of their products.”
    ___________________

    This issue has been kicked around in EU fora for at least a decade now (in the context of the EU-Israel Association Agreement). The practice is of course in the last resort, fraudulent but although everyone knows that it goes on, the Council and Commission have never seen fit to make a public issue of it, preferring instead to to “talk about” the matter with the relevant Israeli authorities. I will leave it to your imagination how effective that has been.

  91. The Angels must be passing overhead, given this silence.

    Jiddu Krishnamurti: In Total Silence The Mind Comes Upon The Eternal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aLnJtZgyY

    Jiddu Krishnamurti – Why Are We So Separated In Society: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JNrvujpVFk

    Happy and peaceful weekend to all!

  92. The continuation of tragedy in Iraq (especially the pock-marked and genetic maelstrom, Fallujah) brings home the role of extremist religious attitudes and wars throughout history. Christian sect against sect, Islamic schisms, even Buddhist and Hindu, where focus on almost unmeasurable distinctions can lead to hysteria and mass murder for it’s own sake, leaves us with little to celebrate as members of the human race.

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304027204579334790882001988?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304027204579334790882001988.html

    When Marx said religion is the opiate of the People, he forgot to suggest how they might OD.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo

  93. “I will leave it to your imagination how effective that has been.”

    Not very, is the short answer. That’s because the EU is afraid of Israel, just like most kids are afraid of the school bully.

    Is it inevitable that people stop being afraid, and speak out?

  94. Do you have these kind of MoFus in the UK as well? Un-flipping-believable.

  95. DeBlasio is the Second Coming for lib/dems, if that’s not an oxymoron, Daniel. He’s from NY so you know AIPAC has him by short hairs.

  96. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    24 Jan, 2014 - 10:34 pm

    From Nevermind to Guano:

    ““I have often said that the Fascist tendencies of individual Muslims are excusable if they have been hung upside down, electrocuted in the private parts, beaten to pulp with cables, left in detention in a crowded cell for years.”

    Thanks for explaining your personal preferences in dealing with individual Muslims who don’t confer to your ideals,..”
    ___________________

    You’ve totally misunderstood what Guano was getting at as well as the intention of the sentence you quote.

    Dummkopf!

    Und ‘mal Klappe zu!

  97. Live from Kiev and the 7th circle of hell.

    http://rt.com/on-air/ukraine-kiev-police-protesters/

  98. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    24 Jan, 2014 - 10:39 pm

    @ John Goss

    Somewhile ago you (ably) translated an unpleasant sentence in Russian from Usbstan or some similar name.

    As you’ve often spoken out for transparency and openness, would you be inclined to share with us when, where and why you took the trouble to learn Russian so well?

  99. A list of six more outrages for just one day. Imagine the hurt caused and the resentment felt if it was happening to us here.

    Israel approves more illegal settlement homes
    NEWS / Source: Al Jazeera / Thursday, 23rd January, 2014
    Government approves 381 new homes near Ramallah, bringing to 2,530 the number of new homes signed off this year.

    Israeli settlers uproot, steal 800 olive trees near Ramallah
    NEWS / Source: IMEMC / Thursday, 23rd January, 2014
    A group of Israeli settlers on Wednesday uprooted 800 olive saplings planted by Palestinian farmers in the village of Sinjel.

    PA ministry condemns Israeli attack on Al-Quds campus
    NEWS / Source: Ma’an News / Thursday, 23rd January, 2014
    The Palestinian Ministry of Higher Education on strongly condemned an Israeli raid on Al-Quds University campus in Abu Dis.

    Samer al-Issawi’s Home Raided
    NEWS / Source: IMEMC / Thursday, 23rd January, 2014
    An Israeli force raided former prisoner Samer al-Issawi’s home in the Issawiyeh District of occupied east Jerusalem, local media said.

    Israeli airstrike kills 2 Palestinians in Gaza
    NEWS / Source: Ma’an News / Thursday, 23rd January, 2014
    An Israeli airstrike killed two Palestinians in the northern Gaza Strip including one accused by Israel of ordering rocket attacks.

    http://www.foa.org.uk/

  100. Why the secrecy? Do they know that the people are getting what’s going on?

    De Blasio, in Private Speech to Aipac, Stresses Commitment to Israel
    By KATE TAYLOR
    JAN. 24, 2014

    Mayor Bill de Blasio gave an unannounced speech at a gala of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the leading pro-Israel lobby group, in Midtown Manhattan on Thursday night, assuring its members that “part of my job description is to be a defender of Israel.”

    The appearance at the New York Hilton was not listed on the mayor’s public schedule, and a reporter who tried to attend was escorted away by security.

    The seemingly secretive nature of the mayor’s appearance led to questions on Friday about the transparency of Mr. de Blasio’s young administration, especially given the mayor’s repeated pledges during last year’s campaign to oversee a more open and inclusive City Hall than his predecessor, Michael R. Bloomberg.

    Mr. de Blasio, facing sharp inquiries from reporters on Friday, offered a measured mea culpa, saying he would urge aides to be more careful to inform the public about his whereabouts.

    “We do owe you a clear understanding of where I am and what I’m doing,” the mayor said at a news conference in the Blue Room at City Hall.

    The mayor noted that the organizers of the event, held at a Midtown hotel, had requested that no journalists be allowed to attend. He said that, “in many cases,” he would make his remarks available to the public in instances where the press was not given access.

    /..
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/25/nyregion/de-blasio-in-private-speech-to-aipac-stresses-commitment-to-israel.html?_r=0

    Last time I saw him, he was red in the face shovelling snow. Heart attack imminent I thought if he didn’t watch it.

  101. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    24 Jan, 2014 - 11:01 pm

    MARY, at 16h28, mentioned the UN Human Rights Council in a favorable way, presumably because it is dealing with a report condemning Israel for various misdemeanors.

    I wonder if MARY would agree with me that the credibility of this Human Rights Council would be greatly enhanced if it did not include, as present members, the following bastions of human rights and freedoms and good governance:

    Algeria
    China
    Congo
    Cuba
    Kazakhstan
    Kuwait
    Morocco
    Pakistan
    Russian Federation
    Saudi Arabia
    FYRPM
    United Arab Emirates ?

  102. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    24 Jan, 2014 - 11:10 pm

    (Ghoulishly) charming as ever, Mary writes the following about Mayor Bill de Blasio

    “Last time I saw him, he was red in the face shovelling snow. Heart attack imminent I thought if he didn’t watch it.”

    _________________________

    I can think of some one else who’s in line for a heart attack if she keeps shovelling her anti-Israel obsession onto every single thread so unremittingly. The only question would be : death through paroxysms of rage or grief?

  103. There is a silver lining in every cloud.

    I used to live near John Milton’s cottage in Chalfont St Giles. He went there to escape the plague.

    John Milton coined the phrase ‘silver lining’ in Comus: A Mask Presented at Ludlow Castle, 1634

    ‘I see ye visibly, and now believe
    That he, the Supreme Good, to whom all things ill
    Are but as slavish officers of vengeance,
    Would send a glistering guardian, if need were
    To keep my life and honour unassailed.
    Was I deceived, or did a sable cloud
    Turn forth her silver lining on the night?
    I did not err; there does a sable cloud
    Turn forth her silver lining on the night,
    And casts a gleam over this tufted grove.’

  104. Hold on to your hats, again. The smoke is clearing from the mirror.

    Emerging-Market Slide Deepens
    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303448204579340480156732234

    ‘A slide in emerging-market currencies, bonds and stocks broadened Friday, stoking investors’ fears that a pullback from these countries was just getting started and would hit strong and weak economies alike.

    This week’s drop in emerging-market assets hasn’t matched the full-blown panic selling of last summer. But it is being guided by a growing conviction among investors that a shift in global growth—driven by developed, rather than developing, countries—will pull down all emerging markets, from the most vulnerable economies such as Turkey to sturdier economies like Mexico.’

  105. Histrionic voices from China Mary. They may be on the verge of another meltdown such as that from the US in 2008.
    Some correction on currency being rumored. These things usually are done on weekends, so if you have cash in the bank you might want to pull out. I hope I am not being unduly negative, but I have squirreled some cash like nuts in the winter :)

  106. “Halt doch mal die Klappe, Du…” In case you’re traveling abroad and are in need of proper Germanic phrases.

    Anata wa hontou ni yapari baka desuyo!

  107. @ Ben,

    Too many elected officials with their hands tied behind their backs and their balls squeezed by Zionists/Dual Israel Firsters.

    The Difference Between Judaism and Zionism.

    But AIPAC’s loosing ground: Top Israel Lobby Group Loses Battle on Iran, But War Not Over, BDS’ gaining traction, so there’s a sliver of hope.

  108. BrianFujisan

    25 Jan, 2014 - 1:01 am

    Just to Repeat…Guano –

    “I’ve a mind to add BrianFujisan to my list of trolls for this idiotic comment above: “f free and fair elections were held tomorrow in Syria ……President Assad would likely win.”

    AFTER the word ‘win’ above, THE REST READS –

    This is the result of the ethnic and religious minorities in Syria that have rallied behind President Assad, since they’ve witnessed the consistent religious sectarian atrocities committed by the U.S.-backed rebels (which the U.S. media loves to ignore or minimize).
    Assad would probably win an election since there is also simply no one else on the government side or the opposition side with his name recognition or popularity. The U.S.-backed rebel war in Syria has vastly strengthened Assad’s political hand, but you wouldn’t know it from the Western, anti-Syrian media.
    Demanding Assad’s ouster also does not reflect the situation on the ground. The U.S.-backed rebels have never controlled more than one Syrian city, namely Raqaa, which is dominated by al-Qaeda and is governed under a Taliban-style interpretation of Islamic law, which includes a strict ban on music. Thus, the rebels don’t have the ground power that would even enable them to make the demand that “Assad must go

    Guano…out of respect for Jon, and Craig i’m not going into a war of words…. But Shame on you, for calling Nevermind a Troll, then trying to back it up…i have actually met Nevermind and his Lovely Wife, thoroughly Decent People.

  109. June 15, 2013

    “Deutsche Bank, 60 times Over-Leveraged and a $72 trillion Derivative Exposure”

    https://alternativeeconomics.wordpress.com/2013/06/15/deutsche-bank-60-times-over-leveraged-and-a-72-trillion-derivative-exposure/

    January 19, 2014

    “German watchdog plans to step up FX probe at Deutsche: report”

    http://wkzo.com/news/articles/2014/jan/19/german-watchdog-plans-to-step-up-fx-probe-at-deutsche-report/

    Jan. 20, 2014, 5:53 a.m. EST

    “Deutsche Bank latest to count the cost of bank probes
    Posts €1 billion loss after taking charge for legal costs”

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/europes-big-banks-count-the-cost-of-probes-2014-01-14

  110. “The Missing TRILLIONS: Where The RICH & MIGHTY Hide The CASH. Tax Havens EXPOSED”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd2QVvWc6Nw

  111. BrianFujisan

    25 Jan, 2014 - 2:10 am

    A couple of Sections from a piece by Ajamu Baraka For Global research.

    That is why commitment to regime change, rather than to a peace based on Syrian realities and the needs of the Syrian people, is the price of admission to this week’s conference in Montreux, Switzerland. It is a conference that it would be more accurate to call a ‘war conference’ rather than a ‘peace conference’ due to U.S. Secretary of State Kerry’s insistence on keeping the scope of the agenda confined to the terms of the Geneva I communique, which calls for a political transition in Syria.

    “On January 16, Kerry restated the U.S. position on Geneva 2. ”It is about establishing a process essential to the formation of a transition government body — governing body — with full executive powers established by mutual consent,” he told reporters.

    The consent of whom? Who assumes power and will a new government represent the aspirations for democracy, civil liberties, workers’ rights, respect for religious and community difference that the “revolution” promised or is Syrian’s future already written from the Libyan experience?

    There are now voices inside and outside the Administration saying that the U.S. should abandon the Syrian National Coalition and work instead with the Salafi-Wahhabi fundamentalists who have joined together under the umbrella of the Islamic Front (IF) and are being presented as the “moderate” alternative to the radicalism of al-Qaeda. However, the Syrian people, who have a history of secularism and respect for different religions, have not signed on to a post-Assad society and government ruled by a group that has publically stated its opposition to democracy and intention to establish an Islamic state under Sharia law.

    But who cares what the Syrian people want? It does not seem to matter to the U.S. that supporting Salafi-Wahhabi fundamentalism is the antithesis of the justification it gave for supporting the “revolution” against al-Assad. It does not matter because in the end the interests of the Syrian people are of little concern to these policymakers who prioritize U.S. imperialist interests above every other consideration.

    In the long annuls of crimes by U.S. and Western imperialism, the slow, protracted destruction of the Syrian state, including the tens of thousands of lives sacrificed, is starting to emerge as one of its most significant crimes. It can be listed with crimes like the Christmas season carpet bombing of North Vietnam in 1972 and the millions murdered in Iraq during the period of sanctions and full-blown military attack.”

    More from this piece @

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/geneva-ii-us-orwellian-subterfuge-al-qaeda-acts-as-americas-boots-on-the-ground-in-syria/5366145

  112. Nevermind

    ‘exposing their simple minds’

    Exactly right they have simple minds that see through the Liberal froth of the West. Brian Fujisan again blows my simple mind by referring to democratic numbers in relation to Syria. Whatever has democracy got to do with a tyrant? Do you think the democracy of Iraq has been an improvement on the autocracy of CIAddam?

    Assad forces regularly pulled people out of their homes and murdered them or carted them off for torture. Every protest was genocidally put down. It is absolute and complete Islamophobic wishful thinking to imagine that the Syrian people would ever vote for him.

    Or, as they say in liberal circles, the next government of Syria are going to be Muslim – Get over it.

  113. BrianFujisan

    25 Jan, 2014 - 6:21 am

    Just for the fkn record… when i met Nevermind and his Wife…i was wearing middle East type head gear…..A chief Joseph t shirt… and open shirt Sporting Japan Embroidery… and yet Nevermind and his wife, were, within a short time ( half hour )..offering me a bed… if i’m down south…But that’s Real people for ya.

  114. BrianFujisan

    25 Jan, 2014 - 6:49 am

    Who are the Real War Criminals?

    The underlying intent of this latest propaganda dribble is to present the Syrian government as a criminal entity while at the same time whitewashing the real war criminals, those who have committed extensive war crimes against the Syrian people.

    Western governments and their allies –including the US, Britain, France, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar– have blood on their hands. They are directly responsible for triggering a humanitarian disaster. This is a war of aggression using terrorism as a diabolical instrument of conquest.

    Western Handlers of Al Qaeda are War Criminals

    We are dealing with staged intelligence ops: The atrocities committed by the various Al Qaeda terrorist entities integrated by foreign mercenary forces were ordered by their Western handlers who share full responsibility for these horrendous crimes.

    In a twisted logic, the crimes directly ordered by Western military alliance are casually blamed on the government of Bashar Al Assad. The victims of war are blamed for the crimes committed by the aggressor nations.

    The Al Qaeda rebels are paid killers, they follow orders, they are trained by Western, Saudi and Qatari special forces. They are sent in as part of an intelligence operation. Those responsible for these horrendous crimes are the heads of State and heads of government of NATO and GCC member states.

    The Western military alliance is pressuring Syria to surrender and accept “regime change”. If these conditions are not met, they threaten to send in more terrorists.

  115. plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose…….

    ‘The usual refrain is that Westminster cannot make RBS and Lloyds do things differently because, in order to survive, these banks need to behave like other competitors: generating as much profit and paying their staff as much.

    This argument may be right if the existing business model of British banks and other financial companies is fine. But it is not. It is a business model that has caused the biggest financial crisis in 70 years and created imbalances and inequalities that threaten the future viability of the British economy. The fact that the political class, including Miliband himself, cannot even imagine state-owned banks ditching such a model is a testimony to the power of the financial industry lobby.

    From the day when RBS and Lloyds were bailed out, the Labour government was at pains to emphasise it would run them along the same lines as before nationalisation. The only thing for which Labour and, subsequently, the coalition government have used the government’s dominant shareholding position has been to restrain bonuses. But this is really missing the point.

    The problem with bonuses in the financial industry is not about their levels – if someone makes a huge contribution to the economy, he or she should be richly rewarded. The main problem is that these bonuses are given to people for doing the wrong things well – things that harm the economy in order to enrich the shareholders, the top managers of banks and other financial firms.’
    [..]

    ‘Unfortunately, few regulations have been introduced since the crisis that have materially changed the goals of financial companies. The result has been “business as usual”.

    All those complex and risky financial products that were at the centre of the 2008 financial crisis – such as mortgage-backed securities, collateralised debt obligations, credit default swaps and other financial derivatives – are back in vogue again.

    The credit rating agencies, whose incompetence and cynicism in rating those financial products has become legendary after the crisis, are still operating in the same way.

    Thanks to Help to Buy, the mortgage-lending market is nearly back to its old self. Now you can get loans that are 95% equal to the value of the house – not quite the 125% you could get before the crisis, but nearly there.’

    The Banking Industry’s Biggest Problem isn’t Bonuses or Market Share
    Ha-Joon Chang
    The Guardian, January 21, 2013
    http://www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-&-columns/op-eds-&-columns/the-banking-industrys-biggest-problem-isnt-bonuses-or-market-share

  116. BrianFujisan

    25 Jan, 2014 - 6:53 am

    Jon / Craig Alcanon’s 5 mins edit time is a brilliant idea….

    COS…i forgot a link –

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-who-are-the-real-war-criminals/5366179

  117. Well said Brian for both of your earlier posts. But why were you awake?

  118. Now here’s a job opportunity for someone in these financially straitened times.

    Palace Seeks Housekeeper To Run Baths
    The Royal Household has put out an advert for a “meticulous” new member of staff to join its team at Buckingham Palace.
    http://news.sky.com/story/1200754/palace-seeks-housekeeper-to-run-baths

    Well someone’s got to do it. You can’t expect them to turn the taps.

  119. Try getting HSBC to hand over your own money! Who do they think they are? They have probably got the wind up ever since they were done for money laundering in the US.

    HSBC imposes restrictions on large cash withdrawals http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25861717

    At the bottom of that page is this little snipper about BLiar’s pal Jamie Dimon (Diamond?)

    Jamie Dimon, the chairman and chief executive of the banking giant JP Morgan, saw his pay increase to $20m (£12.1m) for 2013, according to the company

  120. What is a snipper? Snippet!

  121. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    25 Jan, 2014 - 8:42 am

    @ Mary

    “At the bottom of that page is this little snipper about BLiar’s pal Jamie Dimon (Diamond?)”
    ______________________

    I suppose that the “(Diamond?)” is your courageous way of hinting that he’s Jewish?

    And then various Eminences deny that there is a nasty undercurrent of anti-semitism on this blog……

    PS – his parents were Greek (Greek Orthodox, to reassure you)

    ***************

    “Life is getting better, life is getting merrier!” (J. Stalin, ca. 1932)

  122. Further Allegations of US War Crimes in Fallujah
    by Felicity Arbuthnot / January 24th, 2014

    The United States Marine Corps … its hallowed rituals, and its unbending code of honor…

    — Thomas E. Ricks, Making the Corps, 1997

    As the US-unleashed Grim Reaper continues to cull Iraqis in ever rising numbers, this month of the 23rd anniversary of the 1991 US-led onslaught on Iraq and just weeks away from the 11th woeful wake for the 2003 illegal invasion, yet another atrocity in a litany of those under the illegal US-UK occupation has come to light.

    Fallujah, now under attack from US installed tyrant Nuri al Maliki’s sectarian militia, armed with US supplied weapons, with the US also “… looking to provide additional shipments of Hellfire missiles to Iraq … as well as ten Scan Eagle drones and forty eight Raven drones” (Guardian, January 7, 2014), now another previously unreported US war crime of the myriad heaped on the city in 2004, also returns to haunt them.

    The Americans invaded, chillingly “house to house, room to room”, raining death and destruction on the proud, ancient “City of Mosques.”

    /..
    http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/01/further-allegations-of-us-war-crimes-in-fallujah/

    Terrible. These atrocities were and still are ongoing as Kerry strode the corridors of the Montreux Palace Hotel mouthing the word ‘peace’ before heading off to join the crooks and gangsters at Davos.

  123. Some here will not like this piece written by Philip Weiss of Mondoweiss about Jewish power in the US. I assume the author knows what he is talking about.
    http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/liberals-like-to-deceive-themselves-about-jewish-power.html

  124. When I saw the headline, I thought that it referred to Sir John Scarlett late of MI6 and the JIC.

    No. It’s the Oxfam/Sodastream supporter, actress Scarlett Johansson. Her agent had better extricate her from the mess before her career follows the same path as the Sodastream share price.

    Scarlett and Oxfam chat over Palestinian land loss
    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/scarlett-oxfam-palestinian.html

    ~~~

    The spooky Scarlett is now on the board of Murdoch’s Times. That fits.

  125. “Assad forces regularly pulled people out of their homes and murdered them or carted them off for torture. Every protest was genocidally put down. It is absolute and complete Islamophobic wishful thinking to imagine that the Syrian people would ever vote for him.”

    Yet in 2010 the life expectancy of someone born in Syria was considerably better than someone born in Glasgow. The literacy rate over 90% compared to 3% in Qatar. The hard line treatment of fanatical extremists brought security for the average man in the street. Our support of fanatical extremists in Syria has brought death and destruction.

    As in Iraq, which had never seen a suicide bombing prior to 2003 yet now ordinary people are being murdered daily and have been for over 10 years, I think the ordinary man in the street would prefer the security of a dictator than the misery of a democracy imposed on them by the West.

  126. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!, 24 Jan, 2014 – 10:39 pm

    “@ John Goss

    Somewhile ago you (ably) translated an unpleasant sentence in Russian from Usbstan or some similar name.

    As you’ve often spoken out for transparency and openness, would you be inclined to share with us when, where and why you took the trouble to learn Russian so well?”

    No!

    But I’ll share my open letter to David Cameron with you, because while Craig’s post mentions atrocities in Syria, there are atrocities closer to home which need attention. I have stopped being polite when I write to the Prime Minister because I just get a standard response.

    http://newsjunkiepost.com/2014/01/24/free-shaker-aamer-from-gitmo-an-open-letter-to-british-pm-david-cameron/

  127. Fred

    Cameron’s UK snipers started this Syrian civil war. A million protesters went to London to warn Blair what would happen when he took the lid off Saddam’s repression. Cameron avoided that and posed as a man of peace in the vote on the US bombing Assad.

    It’s like the tax system, they charge you 20% on your earnings and 20% on your spending, 20% of your income on transport and 20% of what’s left on housing. They oppress you when they put in the dictator, then they oppress you when they take him out again.

    Is it any wonder that the people are scrapping with eachother in the world?

  128. Fudgebrains

    Assad is one of those disbelievers who refuse, like the Japanese in WW2 to relinquish power without being forced by ruthless, excessive brutal opposition. After being forced into submission they became the greatest brains on earth and a bye-word for politeness.

    It takes a lot of single-minded resolution to get rid of people like these.

  129. Resident Dissident

    25 Jan, 2014 - 2:04 pm

    “I think the ordinary man in the street would prefer the security of a dictator than the misery of a democracy imposed on them by the West.”

    The ordinary man in Syria would prefer neither.

  130. “Assad is one of those disbelievers who refuse, like the Japanese in WW2 to relinquish power without being forced by ruthless, excessive brutal opposition.”

    Yup, Churchill was a lot like that as well.

  131. Similarities to Libya and Syria seen in Ukraine.

    January 24, 2014

    Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine – Color Revolution By Force

    The same forces that instigated unruly demonstrations in 2011 in Syria are now instigating such demonstrations in the Ukraine. That at least is what I am reading out of the fact that the exactly same graphics are used to train the willing-to-fight demonstrators. How else to explain the above graphics, once with Arabic and once with in Cyrillic letters?

    Accompanying the demonstrations and illegal occupations of government buildings are in both cases brutal, criminal attacks on the police and other government forces. In Syria the violence “muscle” part was done by foreign financed Jihadists while neo-nazi gangs are used in the Ukraine. The demonstrations and the attacks on the state are planned and go together. There is nothing “peaceful” in demonstrations that are only the public-relations cover for attacks on the state. But the foreign politicians and media immediately utter “concerns” and threats over completely normal government responses to them. It is a scam to justify “western” “support” for the demonstrators and to further the violence.

    The aim is “regime change” of legitimate governments by small minorities. Should the “regime” resist to that the alternative of destroying the state and the whole society is also wholeheartedly accepted.

    Several German media used of the “regime” slander for the dully elected Ukrainian government today and did some concern trolling about “peaceful demonstrators” while policemen in Kiev were doused with Molotov cocktails. It is very obvious what is going on here and the media are playing along with the politicians, militaries and secret services that are behind these “revolutions”.

    Color revolutions in the old form had become too obvious a scheme to be of further use. The concept was therefore extended to include intensive use of force and mercenaries and to support those forces from the outside with weapons, ammunition, training and other means. After Libya, where Gaddhafi forces are still fighting back, Syria was destroyed and now the Ukraine is the target. There are likely lists of other countries that shall be attacked by such means. What is really behind the Gezi-park demonstrations in Turkey and the protests in Bangkok? Are foreign powers behind these too or are they just copycat actions by local groups? How does Egypt fit in?

    And what is the best defense a legitimate government can build against and how should it react to such attacks?

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/01/libya-syria-and-now-ukraine-color-revolution-by-force.html

    Plus forum

  132. Is this the start of the end? It’s two weeks too late according to some predictions I’ve read.

    http://iacknowledge.net/hsbc-bank-on-verge-of-collapse-second-major-banking-crash-imminent/

  133. Thanks for the good links to an excellent diplomat, Someone, a man who speaks out about what he sees to be wrong, unlike so many wannabe politicians and second hand diplomats here, sunning themsleves in the light of others.

    Dummkopf!

    Und ‘mal Klappe zu!

    Fudgebrains

    I forgive you two for your personalised jibes, not that this will stop you.

    NATO is making itself unpopular to the clapping sound of some feckless spend thrift civil servants who could not care less how much taxpayers money is wasted on them and NATO. Its not just Syria that has stumped NATO, their aim and objectives have been highjacked by warmongers such as technocrat Rasmussen and piss envoy’s such as Bliar.What do they need a new headquarter for? Is the old one not spy proof enough? As long as they can carry on wiping the arse of Netanyahu and his fascists friends these NATO scribblers could not care less.
    I’m beginning to entertain the idea of letting go of the EU, its feckless commission, NATO and the open border and free trade policie. Let all these TNC’s and their brand marketeers fight for the markets and reintroduce tarifs and import taxation.

    And as a mark of respect to the new rulers of the world, BMW, now that they sorted many of the inherent technical deficiencies, should be encouraged to sell its British marque cars to Chinese off shore investors, enpowering the happy millionaires here, as well as the tax-fleeced and still slumbering British electorate with cheaper Chinese made British cars.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/construction-of-new-nato-headquarters-in-brussel-overbudget-a-944468.html

  134. Ukraine protests going global. Makes Occupy look like dilettantes.

    http://21stcenturywire.com/201…..es-go-home

  135. wherever the drones fly Margaretta D’Arcy will put her banner to. The cancer ridden peace activists, who has dared to protests against US hegemony over irish territory and their use of murderous drone’s, is festering away in an Irish jail.

    It exemplifies irish party politicians and their aims to be seen as brutal and emotionally stultified as their British counterparts.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/25/irish-president-free-margaretta-darcy

  136. When Michael D Higgins took office in 2011 we had high hopes.

    His speech –

    ‘We must seek to build together an active, inclusive citizenship; based on participation, equality, respect for all and the flowering of creativity in all its forms. A confident people is our hope, a people at ease with itself, a people that grasps the deep meaning of the proverb ‘ní neart go cur le chéile’ – our strength lies in our common weal – our social solidarity.

    Sin iad mór-théamaí na hUachtaránachta atá curtha romham agam, agus mé

    lán-dóchasach go bhfuilimid ar tháirseach ré nua d’Éirinn agus d’Éireannaigh, sa bhaile agus i gcéin. Ré nua ina mbeidh bunluacha na cothroime agus an chirt, agus spiorad na cruthaíochta, faoi bhláth: poblacht, a mbeidh Éireannaigh de gach aicme agus traidisiún bródúil aisti.

    My Presidency will be a Presidency of transformation, recognising and building on the many positive initiatives already under way in communities, in the economy, and in individual and collective efforts throughout our land. It will be a Presidency that celebrates all of our possibilities. It will seek to be of assistance and encouragement to investment and job creation, to innovation and original thinking – a Presidency of ideas – recognising and open to new paradigms of thought and action. It will aspire to turn the best of ideas into living realities for all of our people, realising our limitless possibilities – ár feidireachtaí gan teorainn.

    In implementing the mandate you have given me, I will seek to achieve an inclusive citizenship where every citizen participates and everyone is treated with respect. I will highlight and support initiatives for inclusion across Ireland and also make it a priority to visit and to support the participation of the most excluded in our society, including those in institutional care.’

    and more of the same.

    So much for fine words. I say that people are disappointing.

    http://www.president.ie/featured-posts-without-news/welcome-to-president-ie-2/

  137. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    25 Jan, 2014 - 5:07 pm

    ““Assad is one of those disbelievers who refuse, like the Japanese in WW2 to relinquish power without being forced by ruthless, excessive brutal opposition.”

    Yup, Churchill was a lot like that as well.”
    ___________________-

    Yeah, Fred, sure.

    Grow up, for Heaven’s sake.

  138. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    25 Jan, 2014 - 5:10 pm

    “The spooky Scarlett (ie, Johansson) is now on the board of Murdoch’s Times. That fits.”
    __________________

    Fits what, exactly, Mary?

    And why “spooky”? Most normal people would probably think she’s young and beautiful. You really are an old crab.

  139. You have twisted my comment by adding ie Johansson to it. My comment read:

    “The spooky Scarlett is now on the board of Murdoch’s Times. That fits.”

    and referred to the ex head of MI6 and member of the JIC, as I said and as you damn well know. Get lost and cut your crap.

  140. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    25 Jan, 2014 - 5:47 pm

    Another knee-jerk from the Resident Denigrator:

    “Try getting HSBC to hand over your own money! Who do they think they are? They have probably got the wind up ever since they were done for money laundering in the US.

    HSBC imposes restrictions on large cash withdrawals http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25861717
    _______________________

    Let me educate her.

    This is almost certainly connected with a current EU Directive, loosely known as the “Money laundering Directive”, which stipulates that transactions and purchases over a certain amount must be carried out in a way that is traceable (eg, bank transfer, bank draft, credit or debit card, cheque, etc..) and cannot be effected simply by handing over a wad of £50 or €500 notes. The Directive provides that the maximum transaction in cash from 2014 is limited to €3000. It would therefore seem logical that banks should attempt to assist the respect of this provision by limiting the amount of cash an individual can withdraw without explanantion from his bank account to that same amount.

    Readers will note that another objective of the “Money laundering Directive” – albeit an unstated objective – is to assist govts in their fight against illegal tax avoidance (both direct and indirect tax).

    I imagine that no one on this blog would support either money laundering or illegal tax avoidance.

    In conclusion, therefore, Mary’s post is an attempt to put yet another issue in the worst possible light:

    ** it does not attempt to supply relevant context

    ** and it gives the misleading impression that – quote – banks make it hard for you to get at your money. False – had the gentleman featured in the “story” Mary linked to asked his bank to transfer the £7000 to his mother’s account he would have had no trouble at all. Why didn’t he? Doesn’t his mother have a bank account?

  141. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    25 Jan, 2014 - 5:56 pm

    @ Mary

    Do you deny that you were being unpleasant about Scarlett Johansson? I quote :

    “No. It’s the Oxfam/Sodastream supporter, actress Scarlett Johansson. Her agent had better extricate her from the mess before her career follows the same path as the Sodastream share price.”
    _______________

    I assume that the above isn’t just your twisted way of expressing concern but, rather, another manifestation of your evident urge to be unpleasanr and denigratory about just about everyone.

    Here’s a deal – I’ll cut what you charmingly call the “crap” if you promise to have surgery to get your bile duct removed.

  142. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    25 Jan, 2014 - 5:59 pm

    “I forgive you two for your personalised jibes, …”
    ______________

    Thanks, Nevermind, I appreciate that.

  143. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    25 Jan, 2014 - 6:02 pm

    Habbabkuk’s question to Mr Goss

    “Somewhile ago you (ably) translated an unpleasant sentence in Russian from Usbstan or some similar name.

    As you’ve often spoken out for transparency and openness, would you be inclined to share with us when, where and why you took the trouble to learn Russian so well?”

    Mr Goss’s reply :

    “No!”

    Why so coy, I wonder?

    Would it help if I just limited my question to the “why”?

  144. For the others here. It is important to know that Oxfam are protecting Scarlett Johansson, this supporter of the Zionist construct, Israel. Sorry it is rather long but I do not have a link.

    Oxfam’s cowardly stance on Scarlett Johansson’s Israeli settlement profiteering

    Human rights defenders took some encouragement yesterday from a statement by Oxfam implicitly criticizing Hollywood star Scarlett Johansson for a multi-million dollar endorsement deal with the Israeli-occupation profiteering firm SodaStream.
    Johansson is also an “Oxfam Global Ambassador,” representing the human rights and development charity and helping it raise money around the world.

    The Oxfam statement said that it was in “dialogue” with Johannson, suggesting that action might be forthcoming.

    But yesterday, an excellent post on the growing controversy, by Robert Mackey, for The Lede blog at nytimes.com, revealed:

    A spokesman for Oxfam, Matt Herrick, told The Lede in an email on Thursday that the group had not asked Ms. Johansson to withdraw from her endorsement deal with SodaStream. Oxfam objected in 2009 when another ambassador, the American actress Kristin Davis, agreed to endorse Ahava, an Israeli cosmetics company that also has a factory in a West Bank settlement. After a wave of negative publicity, Ahava and Ms. Davis quickly parted ways.

    This is quite disturbing. Given the facts, the very least Oxfam could do is to give Johansson a clear choice: them or us. It is impossible to be an “ambassador” both for a human rights group and for human rights abusers!

    Oxfam’s earlier statement said that it had informed Johansson “that businesses that operate in settlements further the ongoing poverty and denial of rights of the Palestinian communities that we work to support.”

    Mackey’s post provides details about SodaStream’s presence in an illegal West Bank settlement, as well as providing information on the routine abuses in industrial zones in the occupied West Bank (among other sources, Mackey cites The Electronic Intifada’s report from last year “SodaStream ‘treats us like slaves,’ says Palestinian factory worker”).

    Baffling
    “Oxfam has been clear about settlements being a major barrier for peace, which makes it baffling that they would not ask their own Global Ambassador to end her support for a company based in a settlement and profiting from exploiting Palestinian land, labor, and resources,” Ramah Kudaimi of the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation, wrote The Electronic Intifada in an email.
    “We call again on Oxfam to hold up its values and cut ties with Scarlett,” Kudaimi added.
    The US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation recently issued an action alert asking people to contact Oxfam America president Raymond Offenheiser, to urge that Oxfam “press Scarlett to end her deal with SodaStream or…end its relationship with the actress to send the message that supporting companies that profit from occupation and human rights abuses is unacceptable.”
    In the UK, the Palestine Solidarity Campaign has issued a similar call.

    Duplicity
    Oxfam’s hiding behind “dialogue” while failing to act is no different from the US-sponsored so-called “peace process” in which Palestinians are invited to engage in endless “dialogue” with Israel, while Israel continues to gobble up their land.
    Groups like Oxfam are supposed to provide a civil society alternative to such government duplicity. Instead, we see Oxfam emulating it in the most cowardly way.
    It’s time for Oxfam to act on its principles instead of just talking about them.
    I will be tweeting this post at @Oxfam and @OxfamAmerica as well as some of the key personnel who have been disseminating the “dialogue” statement online.
    These include @Winnie_Byanyima, executive director of Oxfam international, @Mark_Goldring, chief executive of Oxfam UK and @mattmherrick, director of media for Oxfam America.

    While Oxfam hides, the controversy and attention Johansson’s shameful deal with SodaStream is attracting only continues to grow.

    One Democratic State Group
    odsg.org/co

  145. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!

    25 Jan, 2014 - 6:24 pm

    “For the others here. It is important to know that Oxfam are protecting Scarlett Johansson, this supporter of the Zionist construct, Israel.”
    ___________________

    It’s not important at all.

    Why do YOU think it’s so important? Important for WHOM?

    *******************

    BTW, YOU HAVEN’T RESPONDED to the following post of mine yet :

    “@ Mary

    “At the bottom of that page is this little snipper about BLiar’s pal Jamie Dimon (Diamond?)”
    ______________________

    I suppose that the “(Diamond?)” is your courageous way of hinting that he’s Jewish?

    And then various Eminences deny that there is a nasty undercurrent of anti-semitism on this blog……

    PS – his parents were Greek (Greek Orthodox, to reassure you)”

    Why did you put “Diamond?” in brackets after Jamie Dimon’s name?

  146. Drone Warfare
    More than 2,400 dead as Obama’s drone campaign marks five years

    http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2014/01/23/more-than-2400-dead-as-obamas-drone-campaign-marks-five-years/

    and on the same website

    ‘An unprecedented attempt to discover if UK officials are complicit in CIA drone strikes in Pakistan has been stopped by the Court of Appeal.

    The court ruled that a case being brought by a Pakistani whose father was killed in a CIA drone strike on March 17 2011, could not go ahead as it could require an English court to pass judgements on the United States.

    The case was brought by Noor Khan whose father was a tribal elder from Pakistan’s northwestern tribal region. Khan’s father died as he led a tribal council. At least 18 other civilians were reported killed in the strike.

    For two years Noor Khan has been trying to get English courts to examine whether UK officials at GCHQ share information about targets in Pakistan with the CIA, and whether this could therefore make British spies complicit in murder or war crimes. The British government has consistently refused to confirm or deny whether it does share such intelligence.’

    Drone Warfare
    First UK legal challenge to CIA drones blocked by Court of Appeal
    http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2014/01/20/first-uk-legal-challenge-to-cia-drones-blocked-by-court-of-appeal/

  147. “Debt Rattle Jan 25 2014: A Bank Run in London?”

    http://www.theautomaticearth.com/debt-rattle-jan-25-2014-bank-run-london/

    “Bank-Run Fears Continue; HSBC Restricts Large Cash Withdrawals”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-24/bank-run-fears-continue-hsbc-restricts-large-cash-withdrawals

  148. “If and when uncertainty spreads to the dollar, the real crisis will arrive, likely followed by high inflation, exchange controls, pension confiscations, and resurrected illegality of owning gold and silver. Capitalist greed aided and abetted by economists and policymakers will have destroyed America.”

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/01/25/economists-policymakers-murdered-economy-paul-craig-roberts/

  149. This is simply about HSBC addressing money laundering and banks have always requested advance warning for cash withdrawals over £1,000. Card transactions and BACS transfers are unaffected but no; this has to be a sign that the End Times are upon us.

  150. Very few, if any, of the extreme predictions from these ‘anti-capitalist’ Global Research authors ever seem to come to fruition. One would be forgiven for thinking they are only in it for the money.

  151. Yes Anon, until it happens all the predictions are incorrect. When it does happen they suddenly gain credibility. Take a look at this.

    https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/stunnning-chart-todays-stock-market-is-eerily-reminiscent-of-1929_12042013

  152. This is Monzer Akbik mouthpiece of the Syrian Opposition, promoting the ‘Assad must go’ theme, being interviewed by Zeinab Badawi of the BBC World Service. The BBC is going its utmost to promote the removal of Assad. The 22.30 news just now on BBC1 was packed out with it.

    Monzer Akbik – Syrian National Coalition
    November 2013
    Duration: 30 minutes

    With the first formal negotiations between the Syrian government and opposition leaders, the Geneva 2 conference, planned to take place soon, Zeinab Badawi speaks to Monzer Akbik, the chief of staff to the leader of the Syrian opposition umbrella group, the Syrian National Coalition.

    The UN envoy Lakhdar Brahimi has been in Damascus to meet President Assad in preparation for the talks. However, there is disarray in rebel ranks about whether they should attend the talks at all. So is the opposition scuppering the best chance to end the bloodshed in Syria?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03gq5yq

    I can remember this excruciating puff piece Badawi did with Mrs BLiar.
    There was another which I cannot find.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrqwtLd8dBo
    From the start

  153. “Yeah, Fred, sure.

    Grow up, for Heaven’s sake.”

    Hey shit for brains doesn’t think the British bulldog “we’ll fight them on the beaches” spirit becoming of people of colour.

    BTW, were your parents very closely related?

  154. BrianFujisan

    First, let me apologise for my disgusting remarks earlier, but feelings are running very high about Assad when diplomats are threatening to keep Assad in place. Please forgive me.

    We all know that the present atrocities committed by AlQaida in Syria are part of a continuum of the relationship between the pro-Zionist West and political Islam: The destruction of the Ottoman caliphate and the release of land to the state of Israel, the British/Zionist foundation of the Muslim Brotherhood, the spread of MB political strategy, the coalition of AlQaida and the West against the Soviet Union, and the false-flag operation of 9/11 and the War on Terror and Arab Spring are the main landmarks.

    The basis of this evolving process is a false religious doctrine which is specifically forbidden in the Qur’an: 1/ Joining politically with the Jews and Christians. 2/ Creating divisions and suspicions between Muslims. 3/ Trying to disguise the political friendship between political Islam and the West by trying to conflate individual questioning of the policy with spying, so that the leaders can keep their haram alliances under wraps.

    There is an essay by Aiman Al Zawahiri on Spying, which gathers this Muslim Brotherhood offshoot sect’s main components from which I quote:
    “We would not be exaggerating if we said that the frontline of the Crusader’s campaign, which is carried out by the US and its allies against the Muslims and their lands, is the spying networks in all its types, shapes, and forms. These networks are the basic resource that the enemy relies on for its small and large military operations. The spying networks are their eyes to see the hidden things that they cannot see and are their hands that are still extending inside the houses, in the forests, up the mountains, into the valleys, and inside the dark caves in order to catch a target that their developed technology was not able to reach. The spies arethe brigades, the soldiers, and they are present and absent at the same time. They were sent to penetrate the ranks of the Muslims generally, and the mujahidin specifically, and spread all over the lands like locusts.
    “Although the spies are busy day and night carrying out their duties in an organized and secret manner and taking directions, even orders like soldiers, still you never feel their presence. You can see their influence like killing, destroying, imprisoning, and tracking,but you do not see them. They are like Satan and his followers; they see us but we can never see them. How many heroic leaders have been kidnapped at their hands? How many houses have been destroyed by planes that do not know anything except the information and the directions of the spies? How many major mujahid were surprised to be imprisoned or traced? ‘Even the military and financial supply roads of the mujahidin, which are far from the enemy’s surveillance, were found by the spies. They even reported the mujahidin’s movements, times, number, and equipment.
    “The danger of these brigades is not limited to their ability to penetrate the people, but it exceeded that to reach the variety of nationalities, types, and descriptions of these hidden aggressive soldiers. They have among them old hunchbacked men who cannot even walk, strong young men, weak women inside their house, young girls, and even children who did not reach puberty yet.
    “Among those listed, the spy might be a doctor, nurse, engineer, employee, student, preacher, scholar, runner, or a taxi driver. The spy can be anyone because there is no limitation or conditions to choose a spy. He should only be able to deliver the information to the people with whom he is working.”

    What has changed since this was written is that we now know for certain that the Zionist West is bosom darling best friends of political Islam, and so we now know why we have been deluded by this coalition for so long, so that Al Qaida can assist the Zionist West supposedly against the interests of bogeyman Russia, but actually to serve the state of Israel, which controls both Russia and the West. ( and China and Australia and the rest.)

    In order to support this secrecy Al Qaida created suspicions about betrayal by fellow Muslims, which led to denouncements, Takfir, and vast intercommunal strife. The Muslims of the satellites of the former Soviet Union were sacrificed like sheep in revenge for the victories the AlQaida – NATO alliance won over them and the peoples of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Libya, and now Syria were sacrificed in exchange for the removal of the tyrants, whom the West no longer needs anyway to spy on and control the Muslims because they do it by IT and soft alliances with client states.

    Of course, as a Muslim I support my elders in their wisdom. They are accountable for the consequences of their actions. Allah is judge over them and I am not their judge. But of one thing I am certain. Zawahiri states that Hassousiya/ trying to work out what’s going on and Jassousiya/investigating and passing on information, are one and the same process.

    If I had not questioned the world around me I would not have found the truth of Islam. Islam commands us to use our intelligence. Politics in my opinion is lying, which I detest, and is forbidden in Islam. Therefore if the process of taking power from an alliance with the Zionist West confused the Muslims and non-Muslims about what Islam means and of what it consists, they may have unintentionally damaged Islam in spite of the benefits. That would be the calculation of the West/Zionists.

    There is an old Sufi saying that if I tell yiou the truth you benefit and if I lie, it makes you think harder so you benefit. Yes, the strategy of political Islam is based on Sufism, not the ways/sunnah of the prophet SAW. Neither you nor I can do much about others, but the Qur’an and Gospel tell us that what is in the heart comes out in the deeds. If you put in your heart that the Zionist West is in charge of everything, you will get the deeds which we have witnessed. There is no God but Allah means there is no power or judge or knower except God.

    Just trying to give you a logical explanation. Political Islam hates blogs like Craig Murrays at the best. In my opinion it was political Islam, conspiring with the British against their own Caliphate rulers in Turkey that got Islam into this mess. In my opinion politics is about the self and power under the empty slogans of truth and justice.

  155. The quality of debate here is utter crap.

    Ideally, there should be no question of whether Assad “stays or goes”. Rightly, that decision should belong to the people of Syria, and no one else.

    But there is Russia, and whatever criticism there is of Putin, Russia is not going to abandon its Syrian naval base, the only Russian naval base on the Mediterranean, I think. That would remain true no matter who was in power in Russia, just as the US would not abandon its base for the US Fifth Fleet in Bahrain no matter who wins elections in the US.

    So any “Good Guy / Bad Guy” argument about Putin and Assad is utterly irrelevant.

    For Russia to support free and fair elections in Syria, Russia would have to be sure that whoever got elected would permit that base to remain.

    So what to do? If the Western powers are serious about helping the people of Syria, there will need to be some sort of guarantee that the Russian base can stay. But of course the Western/NATO powers want rid of that base. Every damn Syrian can die for all the superpowers care; each side is as hypocritical as the other.

    Would it be a good thing if the West/NATO powers succeeded in ousting Russian naval power from the Mediterranean? Personally, I simply don’t know. Large shifts of power carry inherent dangers, and some sort of balance of power is generally the least bad alternative.

    There is an interesting parallel with Scottish independence here. An independent Scotland would probably tell Westminster that the nuclear submarines are no longer welcome in Faslane. Would a Westminster government be able to re-deploy those submarines somewhere on the English coast? The US would not accept UK (or rUK) nuclear disarmament.

    Disclaimer – wild speculation on my part: could the two problems be solved with a deal? Russia abandons its Mediterranean base in exchange for UK/rUK nuclear disarmament? Could this even mean that the atrocity in Syria can’t be ended until after the Scottish independence referendum?

  156. Oh, and just to save Habbabkuk the trouble, I’ll call myself a fucking idiot. I’m a fucking idiot, and everything I’ve written is the ramblings of a fucking idiot. OK?

    Now, let’s get back to discussing each other’s personalities, yes?

  157. @ Clark,

    Q: But there is Russia, and whatever criticism there is of Putin, Russia is not going to abandon its Syrian naval base, the only Russian naval base on the Mediterranean, I think.

    R: Russia has a plan B Russia’s Airbase Requests in Cyprus Causes Conflict with U.S., because Russia Sending Permanent Warship Fleet To Mediterranean and Russia to create Mediterranean fleet to protect Syria.

    According to HUMINT the naval base in Tartus has not been ‘left to rot,’ although some news outlets did run that kind of stories.

    Someone who has watched ‘Behind Closed Doors’ is in no way a historical [WWII] expert.

  158. It seems common sense can be found amongst all the destructive emotions which accumilate in the western hemisphere.

    “Politics is lying” and the truth and sensibilities are suppressed.

    @Guano
    What is your opinion on the Syrian diplomats opening speech at the recent gathering, a speech which I beleive has been suppressed?

    The eyes can see but the mind is blind!

    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co.uk/

  159. Bashar Jafari says suggestions that discussions will include talking about President Assad’s future are “a big lie”

    Syria talks: Assad’s future not on agenda, says Jafari25 January 2014 Last updated at 12:16 GMT

    Syria’s opposition and government have met face to face in Geneva for talks aimed at “saving Syria”.

    Syria’s Ambassador to the UN, Bashar Jafari – part of the government delegation – told the BBC’s Lina Sinjab that his priority was “putting an end to the terrorism and the violence”.

    He said that President Bashar al-Assad’s future was not up for discussion.

    Including short video http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25893408

  160. Thought I should reprint this from the Medialens editors –

    Indented/quoted

    ‘Blair on killing as a ‘perversion of faith’
    Posted by The Editors on January 26, 2014, 8:25 am

    Blair, writing in the Observer, argues that “there is one thing self-evidently in common: the acts of terrorism are perpetrated by people motivated by an abuse of religion. It is a perversion of faith.”

    http://tinyurl.com/obg8gyx

    Says Blair, the illegal war-fighting, mass-murdering ‘Christian’.

    DE

  161. As is said. Where is the tipping point?

    So far there is no equilibrium. Isn’t justice waiting for Tony Blair and other administrators of illegal wars in Malaysia?

  162. Jay

    As I said previously, that introductory was equivalent to a paedophile arguing for his human rights. ‘Nobody can interfere with my completely loving abuse which isn’t harmful.’ Fat git with a brain problem. Shit happens, but fortunately there are outsiders to intervene in Syria and help the Syrians to put things right.

  163. “As I said previously, that introductory was equivalent to a paedophile arguing for his human rights. ‘Nobody can interfere with my completely loving abuse which isn’t harmful.’ Fat git with a brain problem. Shit happens, but fortunately there are outsiders to intervene in Syria and help the Syrians to put things right.”

    One of the things common to both Christianity and Islam is the story of Moses. He brought law and order to the people of Israel when they left the laws of Egypt behind. Made them civilised.

    In this world we are trying to be civilised internationally now as well, making laws all sovereign states must abide by and one of those laws is quite explicit, people from one sovereign state are not allowed to use violence to make changes to another sovereign state.

    No amount of character assassination by comparing people to paedophiles can change that or justify those who flaunt the law and hence wound civilisation.

  164. Talking about endtimes, has anyone come across this guy, Prof Guy McPherson.

    He reckons we’re heading for near term extinction in a matter of decades, that the earth is heating up on its own now which will destroy our habitat and that the erosion of industrial civilization will render us incapable of maintaining and servicing the world’s nuclear power plants.

    When you add in the economic collapse we see all around us and the proxy wars in ME and up to the Russian and Chinese borders it is certainly not unreasonable that those who present a more sanguine take on these signal events are asked to explain how they see these many crises unfolding in a more positive fashion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEGlYXumguI

  165. Mary, 25 Jan 3.01pm

    I read a very good analysis in the Asia Pacific forum of similar underlying themes in the Thailand “democracy” protests.

    Middle class rage threatens democracy:
    http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2014/01/21/middle-class-rage-threatens-democracy/

  166. “Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
    And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.”
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!”

    http://japanfocus.org/-Mark-Selden/4065

  167. Thanks form that great link, Arbed, leaves us to wait for the middle classes to realise that they have to connect with the working classes to achieve their aim of change.

    Corruption is also a massive problem here, not just in FIFA or the FA, but with the corrupt practises and sole adherence to the City’s excesses. By the end of the month Osborne might want to eat his ‘the economy is improving’ BS and regurgitate it somewhat different, i.e inflation will eat us all.

    meanwhile in a once bright and multicultural corner of Haifa its residents are faced with eviction from and the demolition of their ancestral family homes, because the fascist rulers decreed it to happen.
    The drip drip of Apartheid and racialism some here excuse.

    http://electronicintifada.net/content/israel-destroy-another-haifa-neighborhood-evict-palestinian-residents/13072

    And why is it tennable that Syrian territory, the Gholan, is being exploited by resource raiders seeking to steal its oil and gas, if that would happen here, i.e US companies invading parts of Scotland to explore and steal gas/oil, all hell would break loose.

  168. Herbie @ 26 Jan, 2014 – 11:53 am

    The prof is an engaging speaker. He describes human extinction arising inevitably from his premise of global warming as an established fact. He begins …..

    “Climate chaos is well under way, this is a series off assessments [he points to a long list on the projection screen] conducted by large organisations. As we go down the page [the list is in chronological order], the predictions becoming increasingly catastrophic are based on more data and increasingly sophisticated modelling ….”

    Everything he then goes on to say over the next hour follows from that opening statement.

    His premise may well be true, but I and many others are not convinced it is an established fact. If he had begun with “If it is the case that climate chaos is well under way ….”, I would have no problem with his lecture, but by denying the existence of another viewpoint, he shows blinkered vision. In fact his choice of words throughout seemed designed to defy the sceptics, for example he describes the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change as “among the most conservative scientific bodies on the planet.” You might as well claim that Christianity is the only true religion and expect no dissenters.

    Which ever side of the fence you stand, or even if you’re sitting on it like me, the prudent course is for mankind to get its act together and live sustainably. There are, however, a few who would put short term greed before prudence. McPherson pretending the fence is all-encompassing makes it easy for
    those people to ignore the warning alarms.

  169. Hi A Node

    I’m not sure what the other viewpoint is. We’ve been living a big lie for ages now and we continue day and daily to live the lie of growth.

    Politicians, Corporations and mainstream media talk on and on about growth at the same time as they acknowledge the problems for climate. These two positions are clearly incompatible, but it doesn’t seem to bother them much, so they’re clearly deluded and deluding everyone else, apart from those who look at the dataset.

    It’s a bit like the public myths that Chomsky exposes when he explains what the official record has to say.

    Anyway, here’s Prof Al Bartlett explaining, in simple terms, other of the public illusions we’ve created for ourselves.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8ZJCtL6bPs

    Prof Guy McPherson lives sustainably and has done for some years now. His fallout with his university began when he asked that they implement more eco-friendly measures on campus. They paid lip service to such issues but refused the implications of them. You see. There it is again. Saying one thing but doing another. We’re all doing that now and on a massive scale.

    The point is that neither mainstream media nor politicians etc have the faintest strategic idea for dealing with any of the big issues facing us. They plough their own narrow little furrows paying no attention to the bigger picture, so we shouldn’t expect that the crises facing us will be telegraphed to all and sundry.

  170. The killing continues.

    Israeli troops shoot dead Palestinian in north Gaza

    Israeli forces have shot dead a Palestinian man and wounded another in a cross-border incident in the north of the Gaza Strip.

    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25887076

  171. Herbie

    You point out that ever-increasing growth is incompatible with sustainability. I agree, of course, and I also agree with the implication that we should therefore adapt our lifestyles accordingly.
    The question is whether we have yet reached a point where human behaviour is significantly affecting the climate, or whether our influence is dwarfed by natural climate cycles. There is legitimate cause for debate on this matter, and you and the prof declaring that the argument’s over doesn’t make it so.

    Here’s just one reason why the question is important: If we take Guy McPherson at his word, humans have set the climate on an irreversible course and it is too late to change our ways, we are doomed regardless, so we might as well continue on our profligate way, fiddling while Rome burns.

    I agree we need to urgently address humanity’s place in the global ecology, but I think oversimplifying the issues is counter-productive.

  172. Fred
    Use the cat flap please.

  173. “Prof Guy McPherson lives sustainably and has done for some years now. His fallout with his university began when he asked that they implement more eco-friendly measures on campus. They paid lip service to such issues but refused the implications of them.”

    Well said Herbie and A Node, the global equilibrium has been very disturbed to find that their unemployment is going down, but their output and productivity has not, schocks, no growth? what calamity for these annuity addicts who can’t live without their annual appanage.

    The same situation exists at the ever expanding and unsustainable UEA, who’s env. school has provided many a blueprint for sustainable living to the world over the years. Its Tyndal centre is wholly unsustainable they don’t even measure their own ecological footprints within the different faculties.

    UEA is surrounded by three massive schools and twice daily the whole area is in deep traffic doodoo, UEA needs more than buses and cycles, its car park is bursting with cars from staff and students.
    UEA’s recycling policy is quaint and outsourced when this money should be returned and aid students. The student union is run like a businerss now and it has some 6 million profits at anyone time, not that this has much improved their Waterfront venue, only the student bars on campus get regular makeovers to the tune of hundreds of thousands.

    all in all, could do as they say others should do. UEA is not working up to its motto ‘Doing different’!

  174. “A rich man, a middle class man and a poor man beside a plate of 10 biscuits.

    The rich man takes 9 of the biscuits, and says to the middle class man “look, that poor guy is trying to take all of your biscuit”.

  175. “20. Liam Fox – Former Conservative MP – became shadow health secretary in 1999 – employs Adam Werrity as a paid intern in 2004 – by this time Adam Werrity becomes a director of health consultancy firm ‘UK Health Ltd’ (now dissolved), while Liam Fox was shadow health secretary of which he and Liam Fox were shareholders. Werrity owned 11.5% of UK Health Group and Fox owned 2.3%. In 2005 a researcher based in Mr Fox’s office worked ‘exclusively’ for the now closed Atlantic Bridge ‘charity’, which Liam Fox was the founding member; Mr Werrity became director, and which had links to radical right-wing neocons in the U.S. The researcher received funding from Pfizer Inc. He claimed ‘she has no function in any health role.’ The researcher was Gabby Bertin, who is now David Cameron’s press secretary. Received £5,000 to run his private office in October 2012 from investment company IPGL limited, who purchased healthcare pharma”

    http://socialinvestigations.blogspot.co.uk/p/mps-with-or-had-financial-links-to.html

  176. January is a favourite month for booking holidays so here some suggestions.

    Why PEACE TALKS ARE GOOD for Apartheid Adventures – Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEOpL7CerIs&feature=youtu.be

    Some background on the tour company.

    http://apartheidadventures.com/tours/HOME.html

    Afterwards, if you click on “See what we have to offer” and you have a choice of more Apartheid Tours videos.

  177. A Node

    I understand your point, but still I find McPherson’s argument and data quite compelling. There doesn’t seem to be anyone seriously challenging his argument, and how could they. He’s just presenting the official data, the public record, much as Chomsky does.

    They bring it together in one place so that people can see the big picture, and funnily enough that big picture is at variance with what is deemed to be publicly understood, through media and so on.

    I think a good rule of thumb is, if media are pushing it, it’s probably bullshit and fairy tales.

    Anyway, McPherson goes into much more depth here:

    http://www.carolynbaker.net/2013/11/25/video-guy-mcphersons-climate-change-presentation-depauw-university-indiana-october-2013/

    He says that the movers and shakers know all this stuff. Why wouldn’t they. It’s on the public record.

    If you were a mover and a shaker and knew all this stuff, what would you do?

    I suppose some might just decide to have the greatest party ever…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbBYzuxyNuk

  178. BrianFujisan

    26 Jan, 2014 - 8:27 pm

    Having Read many times, and with ongoing terrorist butchery in Syria… The Russians are taking the lead at G2..why should anyone be talking to the evil terrorists committing horrendous acts in Syria –

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov at G2 conference, stated that no talks will take place with terrorists in Syria. Meanwhile, “We refuse to have talks and do not recommend other parties to hold talks with them over principled considerations,” Lavrov said in an interview with Russia’s NTV on Sunday
    .
    The minister noted that Jebhat an-Nusra, the Islamic state of Iraq and Levant, and other Al-Qaeda branches cannot be involved in the peace process while militants “rampage and commit terrorist acts [in Syria].”

    Lavrov has expressed doubts about including the recently established Syrian Islamic Front – a Sunni Muslim organization of Islamist rebel groups fighting against the Assad government – in the peace process.

    The Islamic Front includes organizations that were directly involved in a massacre that killed at least 32 civilians in Adra, Lavrov said, and “some or another structure can hardly be imagined to be a partner in peace talks.”
    “Militants are flowing like communicating vessels between the Islamic Front, Javhat al-Nusra, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – they go to where more money is paid,” Lavrov said….more on this @ –

    http://rt.com/news/syria-talks-lavrov-terrorists-219/

  179. Fred makes a point about arguing for human rights. If it is a human right then it exists without the need to present a case other than to prove you are human. However abhorrent the behaviour, to suggest that human rights do not apply devalues the currency. If you want to start calling people beasts, whether it may be war criminals, sex offenders or people you just don’t like, do not debase what we have by importing your own value judgments. JM

  180. “Fred makes a point about arguing for human rights.”

    Actually I didn’t, I was quoting another poster.

    My point was about rule of law.

    I agree with you entirely.

  181. Thanks Guano for your response.

    How will these changes likely to transcend the Syrian people in terms of jobs, education, land ownership.
    What will happen to Syria’s resources.

    Where does the money go at present. Into government?

    Who’s looking at the accounts…. It’s government run.

  182. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer interviews Syrian senior adviser to President Assad, Bouthaina Shaaban

    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/01/25/401930cnns-blitzer-interviews-syrian-senior-adviser-to-president-assad-bouthaina-shaaban/

    ‘You have to be in Syria to know who’s doing what. One can’t be in Washington [like] Christiane Amanpour or in New York and then decide who is doing what. Remember the chemical [attacks]? Massachusetts [MIT] has announced the study that all that has been circulated about the chemical [attacks] was absolutely unfounded about the Syrian government. We have to acknowledge that there is a huge campaign against the Syrian Government for the last three years, and the aim is not the Syrian Government, the aim is the destruction of Syria, the destruction of the Syrian people for only the benefit of Israel. That is the true story that is happening in Syria.’

    Watch the full interview.

    ~~~~~

    Ms Shaaban was also interviewed by the BBC but for balance, they had an American woman, Ms Ratif Jouejati ‘shilling’ for the Syrian National Coalition. ie the Saudi and Qatari funded rebel rabble.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25883729

    I see Ms Jouejati is very keen on ‘Waging Non-Violence’. http://wagingnonviolence.org/?s=jouejati No irony.

  183. Fred… @ 11;44

    Some more on the international Laws you were Referring to –

    War Crimes in Libya and Terrorism in Syria : Open letter to David Cameron –

    Dear Mr. Prime Minister,

    After the involvement of the United Kingdom as part of the FUKUS-Axis (France, UK, US, Israel) in the travesty of international law (*), the murderous terrorist attack on the people of the Libyan Jamahiriya and after similar involvement in terrorist activities in Syria, there are certain questions that the members of the international community deserve to ask and to which we consider we deserve a reply, unless, of course, you think that is your prerogative to ride roughshod over international law, break norms of diplomacy and act like a boorish, arrogant, pig-headed brat and remain unaccountable.

    That not being the case, thank you for your time and here are the questions.

    1. Did your country liaise with the group LIFG in Libya during the hostilities in this country during 2011 and was this group on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office list of proscribed terrorist groups during the time that the UK was aiding it in armed conflict? This being the case, would you admit that the FCO was actually breaking UK law and as such your Foreign Secretary is liable for prosecution? Why, then, has be not been prosecuted?

    16. Would you agree that you are in part responsible for the actions being carried out by the groups your country has armed in both Libya and Syria and are you aware of the atrocities they have committed? If you deny they have committed atrocities then perhaps you would like the same sort of actions to happen to your family, since you can see no wrong? And if you do admit that the terrorists the UK supported in Libya sliced off women’s breasts in the streets, slit the throats of black Libyans because they are racists, raped young girls because they are rapists, torched buildings, attacked police stations, murdered, looted and stole private and public property then you admit that in arming and financing such groups, you stand accountable?

    notice that I have jumped from Question 1.…To the last Question -16
    All Questions worth a wee scan….and here is the Link –

    http://libyanfreepress.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/war-crimes-in-libya-and-terrorism-in-syria-open-letter-to-david-cameron/

    see also this long list of Nato crimes in Libya @

    http://libyasos.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/operation-unified-protector-nato-in.html

    Lastly …

    The Law case of the Century –

    NATO: Indictment for breach of international law in the Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya. The military and political leaders of NATO are hereby accused of the following crimes committed in the Libyan campaign of 2011, in which the systematic breaches of international law are underlined.

    Understanding that international law exists and that it is systematically broken by certain powers with impunity, understanding that such a situation is unacceptable and that the same set of laws should apply to all, equally, with the same sets of weights and measures employed in upholding it, I hereby accuse NATO and the below-mentioned individuals, party to its acts in the Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya from February to September (ongoing) 2011, of breach of international law;

    1. Accusation: NATO war crimes, crimes against humanity, breach of UN Charter, Breach of UNSC Resolutions, breach of Geneva Conventions, occasioning murder, attempted murder, actions occasioning grievous and actual bodily harm, destruction of private and public property.

    2. Accused:…..there follows a list of 31 accused individuals, and more detail of the crimes. @

    http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/06-11-2011/119534-indictment_nato-0/

    Guano
    i forgive you….No harm done eh.. anger is everywhere these days… many people on Craig’s Blog…are reading of things that the MSM… keep well hidden from joe Public…and that is yet another crime – Propaganda For the Gov.com…. suppressing of truth for us

  184. BrianF; I ‘grok’ your approach to human relations. Much can be learned…

  185. Oh! Oh!….

    “We will stand with the people of Ukraine,” said US Secretary of State John Kerry at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
    Kerry added that the United States is coordinating with its allies in efforts to resolve the situation peacefully.
    “We are working with our partners to press the government of Ukraine to forego violence, to address the concerns of peaceful protesters, to foster dialogue, promote the freedom of assembly and expression,” he said.

    Sound familiar?

  186. It’s so obvious Kerry is really just a NWO lackey and more like a Republican than a Republican.

  187. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) will be relieved to have it confirmed that they have lost none of their influence in New York now that their ‘special friend’ Michael Bloomberg has been replaced as Mayor of New York by Bill de Blasio.

    De Blasio has been embarrassed by the revelation that shortly after he was elected, he failed to inform the media of his attendance at an AIPAC conference. Luckily, someone has released a secret recording of his speech. You can listen to it here:
    http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/new-yorks-liberal-mayor-speaks-at-aipac/

    As a taster, here’s a couple of snippets that caught my ear:

    “New York has a special obligation, and I feel a part of my job description [as Mayor of New York] is to be a defender of Israel.”

    ….and….

    “As Mayor of New York City, I want you to know you have a friend and an ally at City Hall, that City Hall will always be open to AIPAC, that when you need me to stand by you in Washington or anywhere, I will answer the call and I’ll answer it happily, because that’s my job”

    Perhaps one of our regular Israel defenders could suggest why this normally outspoken self-publicist was reluctant to share with his electorate the promises he made in their name.

  188. BrianFujisan

    Can we link the present turmoil in Syria with historical examples of coalition between the four parties, Western States, Zionism, Client rulers of Muslim countries and AlQaida and conclude that Blair was a participating agent of the perversion of faith he criticises in Syria?

    For example, Western States use Zionist commercial companies to outsource sensitive State functions. Assad was directly involved with extraordinary rendition by the UK. Al Qaida was directly involved with the Western overthrow of Gaddafi. So can we conclude that the situation in Syria is in fact orchestrated by all three parties consensually?

    I have always assumed that Zionism was telling the other three what to do by various forms of financial blackmail. But what if the military power, spying power, judicial power, media power are consensual and shared collectively by the leaders of business, government, religion, military etc. ? Their target is us the world’s resources and means to fulfill their ambition to monitor the slightest sign of organised resistance by the people by 24/7 monitoring of the private lives of people?

    As I read somewhere recently, if there is any resistance it will have been organised by the themselves as a sop to the people’s frustration.

    If all these powers are colluding against us we have to expose their actions equally. We are constrained by etiquettes of good behaviour from reporting the fascist tendencies of the things around us out of our control. Or is that what they want? for us to drop the etiquettes of good behaviour and allow ourselves to fall into the same nihilistic control-freak trap of West/Zio/Client/Qaida ?

    They and their refusal to submit to God’s control over everything are bound collectively for Hell/Jahannam. Patience preserve us from going there.

    Do not go gentle into that good night,
    Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

  189. All four parties, I mean.

  190. BrianFujisan

    27 Jan, 2014 - 4:16 am

    Guano

    I do respect some ( very few ) religions But certainly NOT those of T BLIAR…AND G Fkn Bush…And Snotty nosed Elite cameron…FUCKING Multi-Millionaires these shits you want help from..not government but each individual..all of them ….Guano… be careful that you don’t sell you’re soul..by inviting help from these cunts… MY religion is Nature.. and in Natives… ie the first peoples before conquest…. i don’t know where you live… but believe it or not even in Scotland we have had it….Highland Clearances…Wars ect

    P.s thank you for peaceable Debate..long may it last..at this rate, we can keep Craig’s blog open

  191. Don’t want to harp on too much about this but something’s happening.

    http://iacknowledge.net/breaking-hsbc-bank-and-china-out-of-cash-china-halts-bank-cash-transfers/

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