A Good Idea

by craig on March 21, 2014 9:07 am in Uncategorized

Dashing off to London now to do an interview with George Galloway for his crowd sourced documentary “The Killing of Tony Blair”.  Sounds less like a film, more like a good idea.

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  1. “Perpetual educated guesses, but I digress.”

    They haven’t found the actual site (as far as I know), but they’re quoting new data from Immarsat.
    They haven’t said yet what that data is.

  2. “Media Lens aren’t Nationalists.”

    Well the bloke who wrote it was a Glaswegian who’s mother was Catholic and his father Communist.

    But I’m not going to start screaming bias, I’m not even going to ask about Sky News and the Scottish Sun since Salmond’s little talk with Murdoch.

    All I want to know is the budget deficit forecasts so I can reach an informed decision.

  3. Ben, the thing that intrigues me now is all previous talk had related to a breakaway via referendum from western and north western Ukraine, but the mass demonstrations in Odessa indicate that unrest and dissatisfaction is not just in those areas.

  4. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 4:47 pm

    Mr Goss

    “I would be in no way surprised if there was a partition of Eastern Ukraine, especially if the May elections (if they go ahead) return Yatsenyuk and the neo-fascists.”
    _________________________

    That sounds like you’re preparing readers for another Russian intervention in due course.

    Perhaps you should have a word beforehand with Mr Putin and his EU Ambassador: both are reported as saying that Russia had no further territorial ambitions and was not in expanding mode. As we know, both of these individuals are Russian Gentlemen and would not tell a lie.

    **********************

    “Life has become better, life has become merrier! ” (J. Stalin, ca. 1934)

  5. Arsenly “Yats’ channels St Ronaldus (Reagan’s hagiography)

    ““Mr. Putin, tear down this wall,” he said, as he emerged from the White House, “the wall of war, intimidation, and military aggression. Let’s talk.”

    Shicklgruber agrees.

  6. Habbabkuk, 4:27 pm; it is of course presumably* good news that the vaccine is being made available. Whether it’s good news that it costs 130 pounds per patient, and that taxpayers are paying out that much for it, depends upon whether that is a fair price or not. I do not know.

    *”presumably” – pharmaceutical companies have too much power over the testing of their own products (see Ben Goldacre’s excellent Bad Science blog for many examples); there could be problems with this vaccine that we do not yet know.

  7. Indiscriminate moderation? Objective deletions? Who’s in control here?

  8. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 5:03 pm

    Clark

    “there could be problems with this vaccine that we do not yet know.”
    _______________________-

    And you might get knocked over by a bus when crossing the road this week.

    Come on, Clark, try a little grace even if it does mean acknowledging that not every single thing is doom and gloom in the UK.

  9. Ben, your comment about Russia Today being biased is undoubtedly true. All media studios and offices have editorial bias and I am open to contradictions from what people consider to be more reliable sources. But like you, in the long-term it has been Russia Today that has had the more credible news. I was pleased to see that the BBC had run a piece about the shady gun-carrying thuggish members of the new parliament who filmed themselves beating up a media executive into signing his resignation.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26653295

    I was shocked when I saw it, the BBC condemning the Yatsenyuk illegal opposition. I could hardly believe my eyes because I had not seen it on any earlier news bulletin. After looking at the clock I realised it was after midnight, and on the BBC news channel. I never saw it the next day. Of course I cannot be certain that it was marginalised into the early hours. Did anybody else see the above story on any of the main news channels at peak hours?

  10. John; RT news, like any commercial enterprise, has it’s agenda. However I find the TV news to eminently more informative and enlightening than any other network.

    It’s the best bad idea we have for news.

  11. An O?T snippet on a new TV channel called Mustard, it could also have been called ‘dooooh’ as in the Simpsons, but Mustard TV in Norwich it is.

    It is an Archant press TV channel that has a homogenously white, vetted staff in the EDP vane. Here is my comment which will most likely not be printed, but I saw the picture of all staff today in their printed version double page spread and it makes me shudder how someon e can get this through the broadcastiong brief.

    “Directed, staffed and paid for by a homogenously caucasian crowd of vetted journalists who are not representing the make up of Norfolk. Far from providing an alternative to the excisting BBC channel, it is a copy cat with an EDP heart. How such monocleic focus on one ethnic identity was allowed a pass the broadcasting brief is baffling, or could it just be another manifestation of a fact, namely that Stephen Lawrence case of Met internal racismn is spread through many other organisations.”

  12. ” Did anybody else see the above story on any of the main news channels at peak hours?”

    It was on the BBC website along with film of the assault.

  13. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 5:15 pm

    Clark – while we’re on the subject of grace :

    “Whether it’s good news that it costs 130 pounds per patient, and that taxpayers are paying out that much for it, depends upon whether that is a fair price or not.”
    ___________________

    1/. Is GBP 130 the final price negotiated between the manufacturer and the NHS or was it the manufacturer’s previous (and private) price?

    2/. I wonder who would decide on what’s a fair price for any medicine (factoring in the cost and time for the development) and who should establish it.

    3/. Even if the cost of the three shots needed is GBP, compare and contrast with the price – for example – of a not very sophisticated I-phone. Or a passport. Or a weekly (large) coffee at Starbucks for a year.

    Hope that helped, and be happy that the vaccine will be available, for free, on the NHS.

  14. Fred, yes that’s where I got the link. What I meant was on the 6 o’clock or 10 o’clock BBC News broadcasts.

  15. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 5:32 pm

    A little O/T, but connected with the media nevertheless.

    Given that the BBC gets a lot of stick on this blog, I was just wondering what commenters thought about the govts’s apparent willingness to consider de-criminalising non-payment of the licence fee?

  16. More leaked tapes.

    This one showing that teenager Tymoshenko is a big potty mouth, who’d bring the world to nuclear armageddon for a soundbite:

    “Ukrainians must take up arms against Russians so that not even scorched earth will be left where Russia stands”

    “It’s going too far! Bugger! We must grab arms and go whack those damn katsaps [a Ukrainian word used to refer to the Russians in a negative tone] together with their leader,”

    “I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands,” she promised.”

    http://rt.com/news/tymoshenko-calls-destroy-russia-917/

    Please God, make it be a fake.

    Where’s the adults?

  17. Also connected to the media, inadvertandly. An interview with a cagey ex NSA chief general Hayden by der Spiegel.

    Apparently the US fears Chinas cyber abilities the most… well after MH 370…..
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/spiegel-interview-with-former-nsa-director-michael-hayden-a-960389.html

  18. ‘Egypt court sentences 529 Morsi supporters to death’

    Muhammad Mursi intended to get Egypt directly involved in Israel’s destruction of Syria. When the generals realised what a headless chicken the US had brought to power, squawking around with an Al Qaida handbook under his wing to cut off his thinking brain and follow instructions from the mad mullahs, CIA, and Tel Aviv, they took action to prevent him, and his equally head-less chicken followers from lemming-like jumping out of the hole in the back of the chicken lorry to their certain deaths.

    It might have excited the neandercons in Washington and Westminster to see the entire Middle-East go up in flames at once, but fortunately for us the Egyptian military put a stop to it. It was a coup for chickens escaping from the coop. Was it a good thing for Blair to unleash the iron grip of Saddam Hussain? Yes, for Al Qaida, but No, for everyone else.

    There is a battle of wills following the CIA-Arab Spring as to whether the freedom from dictatorship is utilised to form stable decent government, or let all hell break loose. Ask any Syrian which one is best.

  19. Habbabkuk, I don’t think everything is doom and gloom, and the Great Leader’s message about life becoming merrier uplifts me every time I read it!

    No, seriously; this new vaccine may be a very good thing, and I certainly hope it is. There is a possibility it could prove horribly wrong, like thalidomide did. Or it could turn out in due course that corruption between commercial and government concerns played a part in its introduction. I just don’t know these things. You, on the other hand, are obviously playing it up on behalf of your favourites, the Conservative party. But you do not know those things either, or at least I hope you don’t!

    Attempting to score party-political points on a blog like this seems pretty cheap, similar to the support for the Russian military response in Crimea.

  20. Thanks Herbie for the leaked Timoshenko tapes. Just what the world needs in a time of crisis, a madwoman like that in power.

    Ben

    I don’t mind mods commenting as long as they are even-handed in the way they administer forfeits, and that has been my experience. After all it must be quite frustrating if you want to join in a topic and can’t. Believe me if you’ve been around this blog long enough you would know how difficult it is to keep good mods. My guess is that from time to time Craig has a hand in moderation. Surely you would not ask him to stop commenting. Would you?

  21. Ben

    The media inform us that the public is indifferent to being spied on, which in effect what moderation is on this blog.

    Being watched and controlled by criteria which are undefined is gross psychological abuse, even if the majority choose to ignore it because they are not trying to take a moral stand against what FedUp used to call the ***-****-wits.

    As a Muslim I took evasive action from being spied on by fellow Muslims in the mosque post the war on terror, only to find that UKUSIS governments and Al Qaida were two socks on the same foot!

    The stated purpose of the moderation is to keep the blog on topic, the unstated purpose is to make us believe in an intangible tension. The reality is that our moral compass is being twiddled off magnetic north by artificial ambiences of attraction/repulsion .

    We can discuss anything and everything but the instincts of our hearts. The reality is that Craig is using moderation to troll his own blog in order to keep a facility for truth-seeking open under a government ***-****-wit regime that absolutely and manically and totally detests the concept of truth.

    CM’s opening gambit was to ask if we had noticed the new bars/chicken wire on the windows. They are not his bars/wires.

  22. Guano, while a know what you’re saying I can’t agree with you on this topic. In the organ I write for without moderation we would be inundated with advertising bumf of every description, which people do not want. It’s the same on here. You must have noticed people trying to get people further into debt with hare-brained loan schemes. Also people go overboard sometimes, and the language can be as bad as that of Yulia Timoshenko’s. There is, in my eyes, a case for moderation.

  23. In fact I would not mind moderating that last comment with all those people in it.

  24. John, Hi.

    If you know you are being looked at you will do something different to yourself. That means in many cases you will do something wrong instead of doing something truthful.

    Lots of drivers overtake slowing drivers and accelerate across the lights on red. So please don’t beep me when I wait 3 seconds after the lights change to green. I change my behaviour to adapt to the reality on the ground.

    The traffic slows down to accommodate the illegal hotheads. But in the metaphor, the USUKIS ***-****-wits and their Qaida partners are the illegal hotheads. And I am a legal commentator legally trying to tell the truth on a blog.

  25. THAT was proprietary info? What are the protocols? Now you have intrigued me.

  26. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 7:00 pm

    Clark

    Just to stay with you on this one for a little longer.

    “No, seriously; this new vaccine may be a very good thing, and I certainly hope it is. There is a possibility it could prove horribly wrong, like thalidomide did. Or it could turn out in due course that corruption between commercial and government concerns played a part in its introduction. I just don’t know these things. You, on the other hand, are obviously playing it up on behalf of your favourites, the Conservative party. But you do not know those things either, or at least I hope you don’t!”
    ______________________

    I can only repeat my “you might fall under a bus this week” – possibly but unlikely. Of course I don’t know these things either, but I remain optimistic, on the basis that Thalidomide-like tragedies are rare. Neither am I impressed by your suggestion that corruptiuon may have played a part in getting the vaccination onto the NHS – that sounds rather like an, expression of bad grace than a seriously-held belief.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Attempting to score party-political points on a blog like this seems pretty cheap,..”

    ________________

    With great respect, Clark, you are talking nonsense. For two reasons:

    1/. this blog is vaunted as the (?)third mostly widely- read political blog in the UK. Politics in the UK expresses itself mainly through political parties, who espouse various policies. So what is wrong with making a political or even party political point on this blog?

    2/. The present govt is frequently castigated for a variety of “offences” on this blog; indeed, one gets the impression that, for the Eminences at least, it can do nothing right. Hence it is not only my pleasure but also my absolute right to highlight cases where the govt has got something right – where, as the Leader would say, the Govt has done the right thing. What is wrong with that?

  27. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 7:08 pm

    Mr Goss

    “Thanks Herbie for the leaked Timoshenko tapes. Just what the world needs in a time of crisis, a madwoman like that in power.”
    _________________

    I wouldn’t worry too much about it. A seasoned old hand like you shouldn’t panic.

    1/. Politicians say all kinds of things. But do they necessarily do them?

    2/. Madwoman or not, she is not presently in power.

    3/. We must await the outcome of the elections in Ukraine to know whether she WILL be in power at all.

    So I advise you to keep calm. If you must panic about something right now, perhaps you could do so about the apparent build-up of Russian troops and matériel on the Russia-Ukraine border?

  28. Poor little babes. No wonder many develop needle phobias.

    CURRENT CHILDHOOD VACCINATIONS
    2 months – ‘5 in 1′ – diptheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), polio and Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib); pneumococcal (PCV); rotavirus

    3 months – 5 in 1 (second dose); meningitis C; rotavirus (second dose)

    4 months – 5 in 1 (third dose); PCV (second dose)

    12-13 months – Hib/Men C booster; MMR (measles, mumps, rubella); PCV (third dose)

    2 and 3 years – annual flu jabS

    Around 3 years and 4 months – MMR (second dose); 4 in 1 – diptheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio

    Source; NHS Choices

    BIG PHARMA doing well.

    For clarification,

    The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) said the vaccine was effective in preventing meningitis B and should be rolled out subject to it being made available by the manufacturer “at a cost effective price”.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26679486

    Membership
    •Professor Andrew Pollard, Chair (University of Oxford)
    •Professor Judith Breuer (University College Hospital)
    •Dr Peter Elton (Greater Manchester, Lancashire, South Cumbria Strategic Clinical Network)
    •Dr Maggie Wearmouth (East Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust)
    •Mr Chris Liffen (lay member)
    •Dr Gabrielle Laing (NHS City & Hackney PCT)
    •Mrs Pauline MacDonald (Dudley Primary Care Trust)
    •Ms Anne McGowan (National Public Health Service for Wales)
    •Dr Andrew Riordan (Alder Hey Children’s NHS Foundation)
    •Professor Claire-Anne Siegrist (Geneva University Hospital)
    •Professor Matt Keeling (University of Warwick)
    •Dr Peter Baxter (Sheffield Childrens NHS Foundation Trust)
    •Alison Lawrence (lay member)
    •Professor Robert Read (Southampton General Hospital)
    •Professor Anthony Scott (London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine)

    There seems to be no record of pecuniary interests, if any. If none, we should know.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/policy-advisory-groups/joint-committee-on-vaccination-and-immunisation

  29. Habbabkuk, tragedies like thalidomide shouldn’t be compared to personal accidents. It’s a matter of trust in the authorities, so it would make more sense to draw a parallel with the series of train crashes we had some years ago. I lost a friend in the Paddington crash.

    I’m sorry you don’t like the mention of corruption, but it does happen sometimes. I’m not in the least suggesting that it is any more likely in this case.

    This blog has never been much of a forum for inter-party debate. There are plenty of those, and I don’t think anything would be gained by this becoming just another such. I do hope you appreciate the diversity you find here; I think that could well be lost if political party megaphoning became the norm.

  30. @Herbie. Yes, Syria warmongering last year was a particular low for the Beeb. I was too busy with other things in 1987 to notice what happened to the BBC at that time. Wasn’t that an election year? Could you elucidate?

  31. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 7:25 pm

    Mary cooes:

    “Poor little babes. No wonder many develop needle phobias.

    CURRENT CHILDHOOD VACCINATIONS
    2 months – ’5 in 1′ – diptheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), polio and Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib); pneumococcal (PCV); rotavirus

    3 months – 5 in 1 (second dose); meningitis C; rotavirus (second dose)

    4 months – 5 in 1 (third dose); PCV (second dose)

    12-13 months – Hib/Men C booster; MMR (measles, mumps, rubella); PCV (third dose)

    2 and 3 years – annual flu jabS

    Around 3 years and 4 months – MMR (second dose); 4 in 1 – diptheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio

    Source; NHS Choices

    BIG PHARMA doing well.”
    _______________________________

    If the punch-line of the above is the little sneer at “Big Pharma”, then this post is cheaply foolish even by Mary’s usual standards.

    To avoid the “needle phobia” Mary’s mentioned, which of the above vaccinations would she recommend no longer be given?

  32. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 7:29 pm

    Clark

    “I think that could well be lost if political party megaphoning became the norm.”
    __________________

    In that case, address yourself to those on the blog who spend a lot of their time slagging off the present Coalition partners, the Conservative and Liberal Democrat parties.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    As for your reaction to the making available on the NHS of the hepatitis B vaccination, I note in conclusion that it is not one of unqualified approval.

  33. That UK Gov site is out of date. PCTs and SHAs went ages ago. We now have clinical commissioning groups – CCGs.

    How much did Lansley’s Health and Social Care Act 2012 cost to implement?

    Why > £3billion.

  34. There is no ‘e’ in coos. It is usually ‘harrumphs’. Pathetic.

  35. The new data regarding the plane is said to be Doppler frequency shift analysis. I was actually wondering if they could do that on another forum a few days ago. The answer apparently is they could

  36. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 7:40 pm

    Mary

    “There is no ‘e’ in coos. It is usually ‘harrumphs’. Pathetic.”
    ____________________

    Never mind, Mary.

    Just answer the question raised by your post : which of those infant vaccinations would you suggest doing without in order to ensure that children don’t develop “needle phobia”?

  37. @Ba’al Zevul:

    Don’t forget that Ukraine was a member of the laughably called “coalition of the willing”. I bet that went down well with their Eastern neighbour.

  38. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 7:43 pm

    Mary writes:

    “Poor little babes. No wonder many develop needle phobias.

    CURRENT CHILDHOOD VACCINATIONS
    2 months – ’5 in 1′ – diptheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), polio and Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib); pneumococcal (PCV); rotavirus

    3 months – 5 in 1 (second dose); meningitis C; rotavirus (second dose)

    4 months – 5 in 1 (third dose); PCV (second dose)

    12-13 months – Hib/Men C booster; MMR (measles, mumps, rubella); PCV (third dose)

    2 and 3 years – annual flu jabS

    Around 3 years and 4 months – MMR (second dose); 4 in 1 – diptheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio

    Source; NHS Choices

    BIG PHARMA doing well.”
    _______________________________

    Habbabkuk asks :

    To avoid the “needle phobia” Mary’s mentioned, and to ensure that Big Pharma does less well, which of the above infant vaccinations would she recommend no longer be given?

  39. AA; Do you have a background in aviation? I’m surprised you didn’t chime in more on the ‘Disappear..’ thread. :)

  40. “Thanks Herbie for the leaked Timoshenko tapes. Just what the world needs in a time of crisis, a madwoman like that in power.”

    I have picture in my mind: Clinton, Nuland and Timoshenko sunning themselves on Abromovich’s luxury yacht. I don’t know where on earth this image comes from.

  41. AlcAnon/Squonk

    Not only can they do it, they can falsify it to make it look like a tragic accident. The dopplegang effect.

  42. @Habbabkuk:

    BSE happened because of a poor risk assessment.

    In this case, the risk does seem to have been suitably minimised, but you’ve always got to keep your eyes on those trying to cut corners to make a fast buck…

  43. Guano, you’re disturbing me.

    Daniel

    “I have picture in my mind: Clinton, Nuland and Timoshenko sunning themselves on Abramovich’s luxury yacht. I don’t know where on earth this image comes from.”

    Please. Please. I’m clean. I’ve just had a bath. No more dirty images. That’s grotesque. And I’ve just got this awful picture in my brain of Gulnara Karimova joining them with Tony Blair. Now look what you’ve done.

  44. Flight 370 captain is told to fly to Brunei, where he delivers 20 Chinese cryptographers to UKUSIS agents. Pilot then given permission to return to Kuala Lumpur with passengers. Bombs detonate so pilot tries to land at sea in the Malaccan Straits, witnessed by fishermen. Red herrings, tripe in all directions…

    UK spy company to the rescue with Doppler calculations for South Indian Ocean. China cannot take over Dollar as World currency because no longer able to defend itself from USUKIS attacks by land and sea. I predicted April 2014 for the currency manoeuvre. Looks like Cameron is whiter than white poodle poo.

  45. Strangely Timoshenko’s father’s middle name was Abramovych.

    Yulia Tymoshenko’s father Volodymyr Abramovych Hrihyan—who abandoned Lyudmila Telehina and his daughter when Yulia was three years old—was born December 3, 1937, in Dnipropetrovsk and was according to his Soviet passport Latvian. His mother was Maria Yosypivna Hrihyan, born in 1909. His father was Abram Kelmanovych Kapitelman (Ukrainian: Абрам Кельманович Капітельман, born in 1914); after graduating from Dnipropetrovsk State University in 1940 Kapitalman was sent to work in Western Ukraine, where he worked “one academic quarter” as the director of a public Jewish school in the city Sniatyn. In the autumn of 1940 Kapitalman was mobilized into the army, he was killed while taking part in World War II on November 8, 1944, with the rank of “lieutenant communications”.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Yulia_Tymoshenko

  46. John. I’m disturbing me.

  47. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 9:11 pm

    Mary

    Which vaccinations do you think infants should go without? Would you like polio vaccinations abandoned? Diphteria, perhaps? Or MMR?

    Since you think there are too many vaccinations in infancy, it would be logical for you to tell us which of them you feel are superfluous.

  48. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 9:14 pm

    Mary

    “Strangely Timoshenko’s father’s middle name was Abramovych.”
    ____________________

    What do you find “strange” about that, Mary? Do tell us!

  49. Mary,

    Abramovich, simply means son of Abram or Abraham we would say. It’s called a patronymic. You can’t read anything into it. So her father would be Vladimir son of Abram (meaning his father’s Christian name was Abram). The last name is the family name or surname. She does share her surname with Semyon Timoshenko, a famous marshal who was also a friend of Stalin. This might be why the evil fraudstress who wants to nuke Russia has changed the spelling to Tymoshenko. But it is spelt in Russian the same as Timoshenko (which is why I transliterate it correctly). Anyway her husband is not related to Marshal Timoshenko. Thank God said one Russian commentator.

  50. John

    Her real name is not Tymoshenko.

    It’s Julia Hryhyan.

    http://annaraccoon.com/2014/03/06/uk-raine-terrain/

    Peacewisher

    1987 was the year Thatcher organised the sacking of Alaistair Milne, the last independent DG of the BBC.

    Then came the accountants and daleks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alasdair_Milne

    Do a search and you’ll find more on the background.

  51. Yes thanks Herbie. I’ve seen the raccoon website before. But that was her maiden name. She’s married to this man and between them they’ve siphoned off trillions from the poor people of the Ukraine. They should both be in prison but he fled. Don’t know whether he took any of the money back with him when she was released.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_Tymoshenko

  52. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 10:17 pm

    Mr Goss

    “Mary,

    Abramovich, simply means son of Abram or Abraham we would say. It’s called a patronymic. You can’t read anything into it. So her father would be Vladimir son of Abram (meaning his father’s Christian name was Abram).”
    ________________________

    I think Mary’s well aware of that, Mr Goss, and I think you’re well aware of what Mary was getting at. If you aren’t, read further into her cut and paste
    (hint – full name of her grandfather).

  53. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 10:25 pm

    Mary appears to show great concern for children, eg

    “As I have suggested for BLiar, a cell on a cold island with a loop playing of the screams of injured Iraqi children.”

    Why then is she suggesting that there should be fewer infant vaccinations? Does she think that not protecting children against illnesses like MMR, polio, TB and diphteria is a price worth paying for getting Big Pharma to “do less well” (her words)?

  54. Mary, I was trying to stop you falling into a trap that one of the spidery people who trawl the blog was setting. A decent person would have explained rather than bait.

  55. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 10:32 pm

    Mr Goss

    “Mary, I was trying to stop you falling into a trap that one of the spidery people who trawl the blog was setting.”

    What trap was that, John? I don’t think anyone forced Mary to post what she did about Timoshenko’s father, did they? She posted it all by herself.

  56. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 10:42 pm

    Herbie fell into a kind of name trap as well, didn’t he :

    “Her real name is not Tymoshenko.

    It’s Julia Hryhyan.”

    And Mr Goss made a valiant effort to get Herbie out of it.

    You’re a true buddy, John.

  57. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    24 Mar, 2014 - 10:44 pm

    A valiant effort which included a nice bit of diversion (the “stolen trillions”).

    Classic piece of Gossery.

  58. Reading Nevermind’s link – Former NSA director Michael Hayden now a Chertoff group partner revealed a sinister methodology in an interview with Spiegel constrained by NSA truth revelations by former NSA contractor, Edward Snowden.

    Hayden attempted to extol the American belief that a ‘free’ democratic internet had been undermined by disclosures that only strengthened and sustained Russian and Chinese thrust for cyberspace barriers which I find laughable in the light of proven US Internet surveillance and moves toward ownership entitled ‘information superiority’ in cyberspace.

    Hayden admitted using NGO’s to distribute encryption devices(software?) which I interpret as protecting the anonymity of infiltrators, snipers and saboteurs. Hayden admits it is now harder to recruit these proxy agents because of US inability to keep secrets (deception) secret. Hayden was not prepared to apologise for spying on a friendly nation.

    Hayden went on to describe spying as a means of determining people’s inner thoughts by what they say in private especially if those thoughts were “inconsistent with the American view of the world.”

    Hayden tells us the American President is oblivious to decisions in the White House and the National Security Council. (that figures – Obama is a puppet)

    In relation to surveillance of other countries Hayden used a popular Zionist expression, “I can neither confirm nor deny what we do or don’t do.” “No-spy agreements are too difficult even with the British.”

  59. If anybody’s to blame for a misunderstanding of who Yulia Timoshenko is it is Anna Raccoon who does not mention she is married. Perhaps the focus should be on her.

  60. Resident Dissident

    24 Mar, 2014 - 11:01 pm

    “This might be why the evil fraudstress who wants to nuke Russia has changed the spelling to Tymoshenko. But it is spelt in Russian the same as Timoshenko”

    Might also have something to do with the Ukrainian language – but then you are an expert on all things Ukrainian aren’t you? And when has she ever expressed a desire to nuke Russia – links, sources or an apology please.

  61. Resident Dissident

    24 Mar, 2014 - 11:06 pm

    So Mary has found that Tymoshenko’s grandfather was a director of a Jewish school and died fighting real fascists – so what should we conclude from that Mary? Is that a question you would like to answer when challenged?

  62. I’m going to do some work on my book. But before I retire I leave you with a thought.

    When the Cold War ended the US created a new enemy with one of the worst false-flag incidents history has ever witnessed when it created a war on terror (Islam). Since the US funded the Maidan criminals that illegally took over the Ukraine parliament, and in the process lost Crimea forever, there has been a shift back towards “cold-war” politics. Hopefully this will take the pressure off Islam which has been a despicable plot on a religion to steal other countries’ resources – mostly oil. Discuss.

  63. Resident Dissident

    24 Mar, 2014 - 11:12 pm

    Having a very young child who caught German measles/rubella before the vaccination age because that disease became more prevalent because of the fall off in MMR vaccination rates I would urge any parent to ignore the drivel of those who know very little about the subject.

  64. Resident Dissident

    24 Mar, 2014 - 11:16 pm

    And two little thoughts for John – if the US is as good as creating false flag incidents as he suggests why was it able to magic up some WMDs in Iraq? And doesn’t he think that Mr Putin might not be the one seeking to benefit from a Cold War?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/putin-wins-in-russia-only-by-escalating-his-war-rhetoric/2014/03/14/65db1c80-ab91-11e3-98f6-8e3c562f9996_story.html

  65. RD you’ve got a nerve addressing me after this morning’s outburst.

    Herbie posted the link earlier. Unfortunately it’s Russia Today so I guess you won’t give it credibility. But here it is.

    http://rt.com/news/tymoshenko-calls-destroy-russia-917/

  66. Mission accomplished in Iraq without any nasty money or Intel tracks.
    WMD location completely unnecessary

  67. “Mission accomplished in Iraq without any nasty money or Intel tracks.
    WMD location completely unnecessary”

    I got the impression they were proud of the fact there were no WMD, bragging about how they got one over on the rest of the world, seemed to think it made them cleverer than everyone else.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJQS3eLSXgA

  68. John

    Apparently she’s admitted on Twatter that it was indeed her.

    She’s saying that her threat to bomb the Ukrainian Russians was edited.

    That’s hard to believe.

    She didn’t deny that she’d like to nuke Russia.

  69. John Goss; “one of the spidery people….blackshirts that are crawling this blog” – hmmm. Does anyone here agree with killing anything?

  70. I mean, we are all against a nuclear war, right?

  71. @Herbie: Thanks for that. Just shows you can’t your eyes off media scrutiny for long – you miss something important. I assume this was after the election.

    Thatcher really was a menace, wasn’t she. But even she wouldn’t have bombed Belgrade like Clinton and Blair in 1999. Another question, because, like Craig, I was also mostly absent from watching the news during that bombing era (because I couldn’t bear it…). Why didn’t Russia intervene at that point to protect its former Warsaw Pact ally against an attack that was blatantly against International Law? Or has Putin been patiently waiting for 15 years to redress the balance in some way?

  72. Probably at least partly answering my own question with this excellent piece of BBC web journalism in the pre-Hutton days, and probably before No.10 saw an opportunity to editorially influence the website:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/325989.stm

  73. Peacewisher

    “Why didn’t Russia intervene at that point to protect its former Warsaw Pact ally against an attack that was blatantly against International Law?”

    Russia had intervened in the period building up to it, but ultimately Russia was weak militarily, financially and had a poor leader.

    They seem to be much better off now on all those metrics, especially since they got rid of western bankers.

    I wonder could we do the same.

  74. Thanks, Herbie. These will indeed be interesting times.

  75. Technicolour: Not me mate. After all, I’m one of those “MAD leftists” who don’t even like to see animals exploited for an assumed entitlement to a arbitrary preference of the palate. After all, “might is right” when it comes to exploitation – and most people prove it at every mealtime.

  76. @Peacewisher (25 Mar, 2014 – 12:19 am)

    Why didn’t Russia intervene at that point to protect its former Warsaw Pact ally against an attack that was blatantly against International Law? Or has Putin been patiently waiting for 15 years to redress the balance in some way?

    Yugoslavia was never a Warsaw Pact member. The Yalta conference between Churchill (whose close confidantes were riddled with Russian agents, Cambridge ring etc.) Roosevelt (whose close confidantes were riddled with Russian agents, Zionists) and Stalin, at which Europe was crudely carved up, Poland physically moved completely westwards, Yugoslavia was divided 75%/25% as simple as that, in terms of influence, neither west nor east asserting overall control, by mutual agreement. Personal ties between Tito and Stalin did bind them closely, but the spirit of the Yalta agreements were respected by the USSR and it never asserted itself there, or incorporated it in the Warsaw Pact. Along with Yugoslavia, Greece too had a similar ambiguous status, 50/50, unlike everywhere else which were placed one side or another of the iron curtain they together built.

    It was more or less at this time that Ukraine the modern day former soviet socialist republic was created separately rather than incorporated into Russia proper, of which it was effectively part, a separate state would give the Soviet bloc an additional UN member state, compensating for the British Empire’s multiple seats through its pseudo-autonomous Commonwealth countries, with Britain claiming more seats for ever more colonies and Stalin doing likewise conjuring ever more new SSRs as the conference wore on. The superstructure of the UN, the UNSC, the permanent members and the UNSC veto were all decided during these negotiations.

    Poland occupied a great deal of time, Churchill was bitterly upset that Poland was not on the western side, given its torment and its brave allied fight, its pilots huge role in the Battle of Britain and Polish cryptographers early crucial inroads on Enigma, Roosevelt did not consider it important and he and Stalin humiliated and marginalised Churchill, the Polish people themselves were thought torn between the functioning popular Russian backed temporary eastern government which along with Russian forces had helped drive the Germans westwards, and the British supported and still London based government-in-exile; its borders were extremely fluid and were to be altered dramatically at Germany’s expense beyond that agreed, but all knowing probably that Russia would take a corresponding eastern portion of post-Versailles Poland for itself. Poland would still be no nearer resolution by the later Postsdam conference when Truman replaced the dead Roosevelt and Clement Atlee accompanied Churchill. Poland got a far worse deal than some of new Yugoslavia’s component parts, many of which were fanatically pro-Nazi to the end. Churchill could not attain for Poland the same almost afterthought non-aligned status of Greece or even the less advantageous position of Yugoslavia. As Truman by then knew the nuclear bomb tests were successful, and would be informing Stalin of this at conference end, their interest in detailed negotiations, or obtaining the guarantees for Poland Churchill was still inisistent upon, was even less than it had been at Yalta.

  77. Utterly disgraceful opportunist piece by Richard Seymour

    Christopher Hitchens, Nick Cohen, et al – eat your heart out:
    http://www.leninology.com/2014/03/against-imperialist-intervention-in.html?m=1

    The thread of comments on Medialens here.
    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1395699840.html

  78. Resident Dissident

    25 Mar, 2014 - 6:55 am

    RD you’ve got a nerve addressing me after this morning’s outburst.

    And you have a nerve even posting after saying I supported Svoboda and was a blackshirt. Who do you think you are thinking you can insult people with impunity.

  79. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    25 Mar, 2014 - 7:04 am

    John Goss

    “If anybody’s to blame for a misunderstanding of who Yulia Timoshenko is it is Anna Raccoon who does not mention she is married. Perhaps the focus should be on her.”
    ________________________

    Can’t let you get away with that, Mr Goss. Mary’s “strange that her father’s name was Abramovich” was culled from Wikipedia, not from Anna Racoon and it was that which I was asking about.

    So I repeat my question to Mary (but you can answer in her stead if you wish):

    What is so “strange” about someone being called Abramovich?

  80. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    25 Mar, 2014 - 7:16 am

    Tiny M

    “Along with Yugoslavia, Greece too had a similar ambiguous status, 50/50,…”
    ________________

    Incorrect. Greece was 90% / 10% ( to balance Romania and Bulgaria)

  81. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    25 Mar, 2014 - 7:23 am

    “Having a very young child who caught German measles/rubella before the vaccination age because that disease became more prevalent because of the fall off in MMR vaccination rates I would urge any parent to ignore the drivel of those who know very little about the subject.”
    _____________________

    I fully agree. And find it shameful that one of the regulars here should advocate fewer vaccinations in infancy in order, it seems, (1) to get in a dig at “Big Pharma” and (2) to avoid expressing approval of the intention of the govt to make the meningitis B vaccination available under the NHS.

    This is the same hypocrite who complained about me asking someone whether he was (metaphorically) blind.

  82. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    25 Mar, 2014 - 7:46 am

    Mary

    OK, here’s an offer in order to achieve closure.

    If you’re willing to express regret for your posts about “Abramovych” and infant vaccinations, I’ll let those two matters drop.

    That’s fair enough, isn’t it?

  83. @Mary (25 Mar, 2014 – 6:26 am)

    Utterly disgraceful opportunist piece by Richard Seymour

    Agree, shocking, just from reading the Medialens commentary, I think I’ll spare myself reading the whole article. Compare Seymour’s (whoever the hell he is) ultranationalist ideas: “Do we have no interest in the politics of nationalist belonging?” with Scottish Independence supporter’s enlightened view: “At the moment, none of the main political actors speak to the widespread interest in an anti-nationalist support for independence. ‘Anti-nationalist’ in the sense that people may vote yes not because they believe in some kind of Scottish manifest destiny but out of a desire to renew a workable democracy amid the systemic dysfunctions of the British state.”

    http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2014/03/21/why-anti-nationalists-should-vote-yes/

  84. “And you have a nerve even posting after saying I supported Svoboda and was a blackshirt. Who do you think you are thinking you can insult people with impunity.”

    But that’s where you’re wrong. I never particularly targeted you and I can only assume, as I assumed yesterday, that guild had a part in this assumption. If I did particularly target you as being a blackshirt show me where and I will see if an apology is in order.

  85. guild = guilt

  86. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 8:08 am

    Given that the BBC gets a lot of stick on this blog, I was just wondering what commenters thought about the govts’s apparent willingness to consider de-criminalising non-payment of the licence fee?

    Any competent authoritarian will recognise that decriminalisation will result in reduced payment of the license fee, which with its multilayered management and Archaean culture, will help destroy the BBC completely. I will say nothing of Cameron’s(or Gove’s, or Johnson’s) frequent contacts with Rupert Murdoch, still less of Gove’s wife’s handy little sinecure under Dacre…

    …as Clark says, “Attempting to score party-political points on a blog like this seems pretty cheap, similar to the support for the Russian military response in Crimea.”

    It is cheap, in every sense. But they’re getting desperate.

  87. One of the Ukrainian Nazis shot dead by, Russians, Ukrainians or the west. It looks like they were all after Alexander Muzychko.

    http://nsnbc.me/2014/03/25/ukraine-pravy-sector-leader-muzychko-shot-dead/

  88. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 8:34 am

    “Which is EXACTLY why it’s splendid news that the jab will henceforth be offered on the NHS and therefore FREE.

    Aren’t you pleased about that?”

    Delighted. It fully illustrates the advantage of keeping the NHS out of the hands of private enterprise, especially those enterprises specifically set up to leech taxpayer’s money for the inefficient provision of services (1). Which is why I mentioned it. Your point being?

    (1) viz, eg. PFI contractors.

    http://www.if.org.uk/archives/3453/new-figures-reveal-weight-of-pfi-burden-on-nhs-trusts

    Boosting the economy, of course….Jersey’s economy. Or the Caymans’

    http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=news&issue=1362

    Like to comment on Cameron’s commitment to clamp down on tax evasion, buggerlugs?

    I bet you wouldn’t.

  89. It was Alexander Muzychko who beat up a clerk in a prosecutor’s office in a widely watched video. His Nazi background, fighting alongside the right wing Chechnyans against the Russians marked his personal history in the gallery of rogues.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKEF5uoU_I

  90. When they get rid of all the Nazis, fascists and blackshirts in the new Ukrainian government there will be nobody left to vote for.

  91. Tony M thank you for the link to a very well-researched article on the Ukraine. From the first part I reached the conclusion that the resources, like great topsoil, granite and other minerals in the Ukraine are what the west is after in its aims of World Spectral Domination. Learning about how western powers had co-ordinated their efforts to usurp a previous properly-run election in order to steal these was reminiscent of how Karl Rove got George W. Bush illegally elected. They live lies. It is why I go to Russia Today to get some semblance of truth to mix with the disinformation of our own media.

    “When Yushchenko lost the 2004 election to Viktor Yanukovych,several elements worked in concert to create an aura of fraud around the results, and to mobilize popular support for a new run-off. Using the Pora and other youth groups, especially election monitors, in coordination with key western media such as CNN and BBC, a second election was organized that allowed Yushchenko to squeak out a narrow margin of victory in January 2005 and declare himself President. The US State Department reportedly spent some $20 million to secure a US-friendly outcome in the Ukraine Presidency.”

  92. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 9:49 am

    They haven’t found the actual site (as far as I know), but they’re quoting new data from Immarsat.
    They haven’t said yet what that data is.

    It’s bollocks, IMO. Long before Inmarsat “developed” its whizzo new “analysis” of the relatively useless ping data, hugely expensive SAR resources were en route to a constrained region of the Southern Ocean. This (to me) suggests that much better data was already available to confirm that the southern arc was the one followed by the flight,either from undisclosed electronic surveillance (reception of the pings by another satellite would have been sufficient to disambiguate the Inmarsat data) or high-resolution optical sensors. In turn, this indicates input from -probably US – military sources. Inmarsat were obliged to conceal this. IMHO.

  93. “Scottish Independence supporter’s enlightened view:”

    As soon as they stop shouting “BIAS”, “UNFAIR”, “SCAREMONGERING” long enough to tell anybody what it is.

    You wouldn’t have the Scottish government’s deficit forecasts handy would you?

  94. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    25 Mar, 2014 - 10:03 am

    BeelZeBubble

    “Given that the BBC gets a lot of stick on this blog, I was just wondering what commenters thought about the govts’s apparent willingness to consider de-criminalising non-payment of the licence fee?”
    ____________________

    Got you there, didn’t I – you’re in the proverbial cleft stick, caught between your dislike for the BBC (which you and your fellow Eminences continually slate) and your inability to admit that the present govt can do anything right. So you seek to divert :)

    You need to sharpen up.

  95. “What is so “strange” about someone being called Abramovich?”

    Strange she wasn’t called “The Annihilator”. Now will you let it drop? There are important issues to be discussed on this blog but certain people are only interested in point-scoring. It lowers the intellect of comments, is distracting, and generally comes from those incapable of having an engaging debate. So mod(s) please watch for this. Eliminate it and the blog will start to attract again the good people who have been staying away. Thanks.

  96. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 10:07 am

    Meanwhile, in Uzbekistan –

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26713383

    Has Gulnara finally fallen from grace?

  97. There again, where would the cowpat flies have to breed if you wasn’t here.

  98. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 10:16 am

    Buggerlugs raves: “Got you there, didn’t I – you’re in the proverbial cleft stick, caught between your dislike for the BBC (which you and your fellow Eminences continually slate) and your inability to admit that the present govt can do anything right. So you seek to divert :)”

    No. You must really learn to distinguish between individual commenters on this blog. I very rarely criticise the BBC’s reporting, much of which is excellent. However its management is ponderous and sclerotic, it is certainly under pressure to reflect the government of the day’s views, and your chums in the rentamedia industry would like to see the end of it.

    When your mentors and guides do anything at all, the reason given to the public – which you swallow uncritically – is tailored to maximise their chances of re-election. The economic aspect is concealed. And the economic aspect is that their actions are designed to hand large sums of money to their own sponsors.

    Not a diversion, buggerlugs. Just detaching you from your teat for a moment. Or trough.

    Here’s an excellent BBC programme – you can get it on the iplayer link – outlining the inevitable consequences of an unregulated market…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26680993

    Enjoy.

  99. Ref BBC Ba’al I thought it odd too. Perhaps the plan is to privatise it and flog it off to the highest bidder when they say its income has fallen to an unsustainable level. Would they allow the state broadcaster to go into other hands though?

    Heard earlier that 1,600 managerial jobs are going at the ‘Royal’ Mail. This will bring strike action. There will be 300 new or enhanced roles whatever the latter means.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26728116

    Flogged off at 455p. Currently 576.5p
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business/market_data/shares/3/89934/twelve_month.stm

    Cable is trying to stop the Canadian Moya Greene’s salary increase. She already takes £1.5m. Look at the repellent ConDems in this photo. The greed shows. Fallon is the one with the job of selling us fracking.

    Royal Mail boss Moya Greene is ‘badly paid’ on £1.5MILLION a year, chairman claims
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/royal-mail-boss-moya-greene-3042492

    Few people know that there is a large and valuable property portfolio (redundant depots etc) available to the privateers and that included in the flog off was the post code database also of great commercial value. State assets given to the private sector as per usual.

    Ministers criticised for sale of postcode database
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26605375

    ‘Committee chairman Bernard Jenkin said: “The sale of the PAF with the Royal Mail was a mistake. Public access to public sector data must never be sold or given away again.’

    ‘Analysts Deloitte had assessed the value of this information to consumers, businesses and the public sector at £1.8bn a year, it added.’

  100. John I am not responding to the taunts.

    Being truthful, I had no idea that the ..ovitch/..ovych ending meant ‘son of’. All totally irrelevant of course.

  101. Very sensible Mary. As you say, all totally irrelevant. That is my worry for this very popular blog being dragged down by a few crass comment-makers, one of whom disrupts one thread and moves quickly onto the next without any reasonable debate.

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/03/deconstructing-putin/comment-page-3/#comment-448715

  102. Prince Harry follows in the footsteps of Uncle Andrew and BLiar to visit the dictatorship of Kazakhstan for some skiing.

    Harry has reportedly shunned the luxury Swiss resort favoured by royals, opting instead for a romantic winter break in the ex-Soviet state
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/price-harry-whisks-cressida-skiing-3279647

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1365907/Tony-Blair-Prince-Andrew-mutual-Kazakhstan.html

    ‘Severe limits on ability to change their government; detainee and prisoner torture and other abuse; unhealthy prison conditions; arbitrary arrest and detention; lack of an independent judiciary; restrictions on freedom of speech, pervasive corruption, especially in law enforcement and the judicial system; discrimination and violence against women; trafficking in persons.’

  103. “Ref BBC Ba’al I thought it odd too. Perhaps the plan is to privatise it and flog it off to the highest bidder when they say its income has fallen to an unsustainable level. Would they allow the state broadcaster to go into other hands though?”

    It’s no mystery Mary. The cost of enforcement is exceeding the benefits, it’s costing more to pay people to go round with detector vans than they get back.

    Decriminalising the license fee will allow them to hand it over to a debt collection company on a percentage basis. The company will be able to charge costs for bringing a prosecution, anyone caught would most likely have been better off paying a fine, unless they settle out of court which I expect the vast majority will.

    It is a good idea in theory, if the debt collection company is honest, experience shows they are usually more interested in profits than justice or the rights of the individual. People such as myself who do not have a TV are likely to get harassed and intimidated.

    Speaking of which I see ATOS are official sponsors of the Commonwealth Games in Scotland.

  104. Ba’al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures) 25 Mar, 2014 – 10:07 am

    I’m sure Craig and Uzbek in the UK would be pleased to read that BBC article about Gulnara Karimova if they can wade through the Habba distractions first. This is an enlightened article which raises questions about what Gulnara’s real message is. Are she and her daughter really under house arrest? Is she really a reformed character? Or is it a means of changing her public image to prepare for continuation of the dynasty? Or is her sister Lola the rising star? She’s described as a philanthropist.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_Karimova-Tillyaeva

    It would be good to get some enlightened opinion on this from experts like Craig and those who have lived there like Uzbek in the UK, (instead of having to listen to his perpetual tirade against mad lefties).

  105. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 11:14 am

    “Perhaps the plan is to privatise it and flog it off to the highest bidder when they say its income has fallen to an unsustainable level. Would they allow the state broadcaster to go into other hands though?”

    All sorts of options available;

    Allow advertising to fund the business. Lucrative, and with only a little manipulation, would prevent adverse comment re. big oil, polluters, companies trading with disgusting regimes etc. A lot of PR companies pay MP’s.

    Much of the BBC’s production capacity has already been dismantled on the assumption that it would buy programming from private companies, which it does (and nothing particularly wrong with that on the entertainment side). The end of that particular road is an organisation which consists entirely of managers, when nothing whatever is being produced. This, and its property, would be an attractive speculation for a hedge fund, perhaps. What fell “into other hands” would not actually be the BBC, then.

    The World Service is already funded by the Foreign Office (its worldwide shortwave stations are now owned by Babcock) and would continue to be a separate entity, whose credibility, as it increasingly compromised to retain income, would be no more than Press TV’s or RT’s – which have the same problem.

    But I think what Murdoch and other media oligarchs would like is for the BBC to become a castrated parody of itself, kept on a very tight financial leash, and dealing exclusively in the kind of material that doesn’t sell advertising. The model of public service broadcasters in the US, in other words. Then the likes of buggerlugs can mock it for its -necessarily – niche, lefty appeal. The marginalisation scenario.

  106. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 11:21 am

    Yes, John. I posted the link without comment re. Gulnara, as I don’t want to accept it at face value. If Googoo is currently shackled hand and foot and being flogged by her Dad, it sounds too good to be true. Perhaps it’s a ploy to set her up as a tame ‘opposition’ figure who will not object to only getting 10% to Dad’s 91% in the next election?

  107. Latest news for Googoosha!

    “How naive I was to think that the rule of law exists in the country,”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26713383

    Surely Craig a first!

  108. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 11:36 am

    Mind you, Mary, the Post Office solution is favourite for the BBC, too. This would be spun as ‘letting hard working families decide,’ perhaps. Having applied the stranglehold of reduced income from license fees, there would be a profitability crisis (yeah, yeah, it’s never been in profit. Ever. How could it be? But the SUN will be lengthily appalled) and the public would be offered shares at knockdown rates. By ‘public’ we really mean an unpublicised issue of 75% to institutional investors and 25%, non-voting, to the small fry.

    Ownership would then be transferred to some hedge funds, who would be free to turn it into anything they pleased, perhaps, optionally, retaining an obligation to broadcast the News once a week on Tuesdays. My guess is executive housing.

  109. “If Googoo is currently shackled hand and foot and being flogged by her Dad, it sounds too good to be true.”

    You said that as a joke. Right? I wouldn’t want to think of anyone being treated like that. Remember, if it is true, that she has lived a life of luxury, with slaves to do her every bidding, how much harder it must be for her to be in a similar position herself.

    If true, this sneaking in and out letters shows she has some kind of freedom. It’s a bit like Mary Queen of Scots being incarcerated in Loch Leven, or Tutbury. It is full of intrigue and the kind of thing the soon-to-be-privatised BBC does very well. Anyway, come on you experts. Analyse please!

  110. http://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/02/opinion/foreign-affairs-now-a-word-from-x.html

    Wise words from an elder US statesman about the folly of a new Cold War with Russia

  111. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 12:02 pm

    “You said that as a joke. Right? I wouldn’t want to think of anyone being treated like that.”

    A lot of Uzbeks would probably take a different position…I await confirmation. Joke? No. Not funny, although the words ‘poetic’ and ‘justice’ suggest themselves. Just that there may be more than meets the eye. Additionally, it could be convenient to be a helpless prisoner of a regime which doesn’t hold with international law if the Swiss are looking to extradite you. Call me a cynic if you will.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26543458

  112. John Goss
    25 Mar, 2014 – 8:21 am

    One of the Ukrainian Nazis shot dead by, Russians, Ukrainians or the west. It looks like they were all after Alexander Muzychko.

    Who did him in, I wonder?

    “It is noteworthy that Muzychko, after having fulfilled a function, increasingly became a PR liability for US and EU leaders who had supported the armed coup d’Ètat in Ukraine with the help of neo-Nazi and ultra-nationalist organizations.”

  113. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 12:30 pm

    Some opposition commentary on the state of Karimov’s government. Are the (other) rats preparing to leave the ship? And to whom might they be planning to flee?

    http://birdamlik.info/en/2014/03/12/karimov-makes-a-last-ditch-attempt/

    Cui bono?

  114. doug scorgie

    25 Mar, 2014 - 1:01 pm

    BBC ‘total fabrication from beginning to end’ of Syria ‘atrocity. CIA caught infiltrating CNN, and Operation Mockingbird

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38047.htm

  115. “Who did him in, I wonder?”

    The Kiev govt are claiming it was a police operation:

    “The leader of an armed group in the Rivne oblast who made headlines in the world (damaging Ukraine’s image) for threatening a prosecutor in his office with a Kalashnikov, was killed during a police operation, the first deputy interior minister Volodymyr Yevdokymov said, UNN reports March 25.”

    http://zik.ua/en/news/2014/03/25/police_sashko_bily_killed_during_his_arrest_473620

    Pity. With his increasingly prominent media profile, I fancied him as a rising star of the new regime.

  116. “Who did him in, I wonder?”

    Somebody knows Doug. And eventually we will all know. It would not surprise me if this was not the first of many assassinations. Next on the list could be Igor Miroshnichenko.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/19/kiev-tv-attack_n_4995160.html

    These western-backed thugs are the ones destabilising a once fairly stable country. I think, and even a part of me hopes, that these fascists will be subdued before the world suffers even more than it has over the last fifteen years. Full spectrum dominance is not something I want. It is something the United States of America has been working towards aided by bankster money. Those who do want FSD will never achieve it.

    “He who kills with the sword shall be killed by the sword.”

  117. Alexander Muzychko was relatively small fry. Removing him and a like few may well be a tactic by the Victoria-“f*ck-the”-Nuland tendency in Kiev to suppress the pumped-up stormtroopers, and have been weighed up for its obfuscatory value. It certainly won’t impede the novus ordo seclorum mission. What would be of more genuine benefit the oppressed people of the region would be some carefully targeted action in the Far West rather than these lowly tools.

  118. This seems a reasonable summing of the situation:

    “”I think that the government is well aware of this. Now they try to reason the revolutionary component of Maidan with different methods. The first step was to create National Guards from radical forces, designating them an external enemy – Russia, thereby setting their zeal and energy against Russia. But I think that many radicals will not be satisfied in the barracks with humble soldiers’ food. Many of them remained in the streets doing there what they were doing before – committing crimes. They attack people, entrepreneurs and former oligarchs.”

    http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/crimes/25-03-2014/127158-ukraine_muzychko-0/

  119. Could be Winkletoe. Kill a few low-lifes, get the US backed favourites to criticise the actions of those bringing them into disrepute, as Klitschko has done, and voilà you have an apparent moderate government. I still think it is too early to know who carried it out. When you’re hated by all sides, and have been a nasty mercenary and murderer, it is time to buy yourself a coffin.

  120. Visiting conservative forums and seeing the commentary for some years, the Tea Partiers talking of secession and 2nd amendment solutions, I have no doubt if there were a less stable form of government, they would be pulling the same tricks as Maidan and Co.

    We had a Civil War, and a bloody attempt at partitioning an entire region, I think, by the same sort of people.

  121. Kinda sorta OT, but it does involve Chechnya and Dagestan. Even when we have CSI’s from several agencies, sworn to tell the truth, we can’t get straight answers.

    http://www.thewire.com/national/2013/05/fbi-changes-its-story-again-ibragim-todashev-shooting/65750/

  122. Israel and Palestine – short Lords debate Lady Warsi responding
    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201314/ldhansrd/text/140324-0001.htm#14032410000827

    Can you believe that HMG has no knowledge of B’setselem?

    Lords Palmer and Turnberg are supporters of Zionist Israel.

    http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-palmer-of-childs-hill/4214

    http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-turnberg/2537

  123. This is on-topic somewhere else. Is the CIA involved in the disappearance of the Malaysian airliner? Just asking.

    http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=22284&start

    In this day and age when so much can be done remotely it would be wrong not to investigate every angle to a missing plane, presumably lost in the area known as the roaring forties, for which some accounts are suggesting may have been diverted to Diego Garcia. I would not have been so suspicious if wreckage had been found.

  124. ‘Disappear..’ thread is still active, John.

  125. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 2:34 pm

    “Baroness Warsi: I am not familiar with that particular human rights group but I will certainly ensure that officials are aware of the work that it is doing.”

    Well, that helps with one question. Which my MP said he would ask her, but didn’t; who actually funds the Con/Lab/Lib/Commons-bar-staff Friends of Israel groups?

    http://sayeedawarsi.com/tag/conservative-friends-of-israel/

  126. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 2:35 pm

    PS – I know the answer, btw.

  127. Earlier Fred mentioned that ATOS are sponsors of the Commonwealth Games, more bread and circuses.

    25 Mar 2014

    Atos, G4S paid no corporation tax last year despite carrying out £2billion of taxpayer-funded work

    Two of the country’s biggest private contractors paid no corporation tax in Britain last year, despite carrying out billions of pounds of taxpayer funded work for the Government, an official audit finds

    http://welfaretales.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/atos-g4s-paid-no-corporation-tax-last-year-despite-carrying-out-2billion-of-taxpayer-funded-work/

    Pure chutzpah.

  128. Typo earlier

    s/be B’Tselem.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B'Tselem

  129. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 2:53 pm

    “Atos, G4S paid no corporation tax last year despite carrying out £2billion of taxpayer-funded work” (Mary)

    Oh, you mean like John Laing plc, which has 40% of the new PFI to build Alder Hey childrens’ hospital? Hasn’t paid corporation tax in years. Or Laing O’Rourke – also 40% – the company bought from Laing Construction for £1, also an accomplished dodger of taxes? I linked to this earlier, but I’d hate anyone to miss an excellent article on stitching up the taxpayer, so, again;

    http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=news

    Seems like it’s standard practice to calculate the tax benefit to the exchequer on the basis of future taxes which no-one has a hope in hell of recovering, doesn’t it? What’s on the telly tonight?

  130. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    25 Mar, 2014 - 3:09 pm

    Mary

    “Can you believe that HMG has no knowledge of B’setselem?”
    ____________________-

    Almost as unbelievable as you claiming that you had no idea that Abramoych was a patronymic.

    ********************

    BTW, have you considered expressing regret for your unfortunate and insensitive
    post on infant vaccinations yet?

  131. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    25 Mar, 2014 - 3:10 pm

    Abramovych

  132. Ba'al Zevul (Vote For The Pretty Pictures)

    25 Mar, 2014 - 3:16 pm

    Like to comment on Cameron’s commitment to clamp down on tax evasion, buggerlugs?

    Mods, you may delete this with all the other rhetorical questions another poster repeats for want of anything sensible to do…

  133. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    25 Mar, 2014 - 3:24 pm

    BlubberZul

    “You must really learn to distinguish between individual commenters on this blog.”
    __________________-

    Very difficult to distinguish between the sheep in a flock, all baa-ing and bleating away in chorus. :)

  134. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    25 Mar, 2014 - 3:31 pm

    “Like to comment on Cameron’s commitment to clamp down on tax evasion,”
    ______________

    With pleasure, BubbleZubble. I welcome that commitment and very much hope that it is translated into concrete, effective action as soon as possible.

    **************

    Having got your diversion out of the way, let me say that I’m happy you’re delighted with the prospect of free meningitis B jabs on the NHS.

    Would you, like Mary, like to get rid of some of the other jabs on order to ensure that children don’t get “needle phobia”?

  135. Craig Murray, everybody, this is Bill Gates’ dreamland, the western-backed, United Arab Emirates. Slavery of very young children strapped to the backs of camels as entertainment for the Oil-rich Sheiks. This might even move the tacit supporter of torture.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=636967906368961

  136. After my modanon kerfluffle, I can understand the reticence to engage me, :)

    I feel like a steer in the slaughterhouse.

  137. Sofia Kibo Noh

    25 Mar, 2014 - 3:54 pm

    John Goss.

    ““Who did him in, I wonder?””

    Well it wasn’t me. I was washing my hair.

  138. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a!

    25 Mar, 2014 - 3:54 pm

    From John Goss

    “Strange she wasn’t called “The Annihilator”. Now will you let it drop? There are important issues to be discussed on this blog but certain people are only interested in point-scoring. It lowers the intellect of comments, is distracting, and generally comes from those incapable of having an engaging debate. So mod(s) please watch for this. Eliminate it and the blog will start to attract again the good people who have been staying away. Thanks.”

    and

    “That is my worry for this very popular blog being dragged down by a few crass comment-makers, one of whom disrupts one thread and moves quickly onto the next without any reasonable debate.”
    _________________

    You need to be told, Mr Goss.

    I believe you are a “contributing editor” to another online effort called something like “Newsjunkiepost”, which frequently carries pieces by you.

    I learnt the other day – you linked to it yourself – that in addition you also have your own blog (“Johngossip” or similar), where you also seem quite active.

    Now I don’t know much about blogging etiquette, but given that you have two blogs of your own, I can’t help thinking there’s something indecent about you squatting on Craig’s blog to the extent you do. You post here so frequently that you not only give the impression of squatting but also of wanting to colonize Craig’s blog and turn it into a propaganda vehicle for your views.

    Perhaps you should devote more time and effort to your own two blogs and stop trying to colonize this one?

    Furthermore, you compound your offence by writing the sort of thing I’ve quoted above. Not only do you seek to colonize this blog but you also presume, in true colonialist style, to set the agenda, lay down what should and should not be discussed, pronounce on who is diverting and who isn’t, and you even attempt to give instructions to the moderators.

    You must learn that even if you were something more than a rather insolent squatter you would still no rank above any other poster here on Craig’s blog. I advise a period of silence on your part and a short course in on the law of trespass.

    **********************

    “Life has become better, life has become merrier!” (J.Stalin, ca. 1934)

  139. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a! 25 Mar, 2014 – 3:54 pm

    This is really what made you go off on one. Isn’t it?

    “Craig Murray, everybody, this is Bill Gates’ dreamland, the western-backed, United Arab Emirates. Slavery of very young children strapped to the backs of camels as entertainment for the Oil-rich Sheiks. This might even move the tacit supporter of torture.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=636967906368961

  140. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Mar, 2014 - 4:21 pm

    John Goss (afterthought)

    And please stop using Craig’s blog as a kind of advertisement hoarding for your own two blogs.

  141. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) a! 25 Mar, 2014 – 3:54 pm

    It did not move him because he is only here to disrupt, not to debate. Upset by being accused of having no heart he makes a personal attack on me. Watch the video. And grow up!

  142. Shortly before news of the death of Alexander Muzychko a video appeared online in which some lady friends repeatedly kick him in the face for his gratification. The original video has been removed from youtube but this Russian news report is still up as of writing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdQrctRbjeY

  143. http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/right-sector-demands-avakovs-dismissal-task-force-members-arrest-for-killing-its-activist-340849.html

    Right Sector demands Avakov’s dismissal, task force members’ arrest for killing its activist

    The Ukrainian radical group Right Sector demands Interior Minister Arsen Avakov’s immediate dismissal and the arrest of members of the Sokil (Falcon) special task force involved in killing nationalist leader Oleksandr Muzychko nicknamed Sashko Bily in the Rivne region early on March 25.

  144. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Mar, 2014 - 4:54 pm

    John Goss

    I had not even noticed your post about boys on camels when I composed and sent mine.

    What I said to you needed saying, so don’t come the smart one. Go back to your own two blogs and stop trying to turn this one into some kind of personal Pravda.

  145. Here’s some RT coverage of the killing:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg9sniD-ms8

    And additional photos of scene, men with guns, standing about looking, masks, leather jackets, designer jeans and what look like robocops.

    Looks very much like he was handcuffed. So assassination rather than shootout.

    WARNING: Very grisly images

    http://charivne.info/news/Fotoreportazh-z-mistsya-rozstrilu-Oleksandra-Muzichka-

  146. Habbabkuk, I know you think this is you blog. It is not. Nobody with any sense takes much notice of a thing you write. It is insulting and designed to raise hackles. It is why you spend most of your time talking to yourself. Don’t tell me what to do. You’ve already earnt your ticket twice (if I remember correctly). It still does not stop your nonsense. If you’ve nothing sensible to say don’t say anything. I know you will find it difficult. But stop attacking other people who comment.

  147. ‘Very difficult to distinguish between the t—-s in a flock, all baa-ing and bleating away in chorus.’

    Quite so.

    Or more like dogs with bones.

  148. Please stick to posting relevant comments and avoid sniping at one another.

  149. Hard luck on any of the t….s here who live in rural locations.

    Funding change could force rural GP practices to close, BMA warns

    Large areas of rural England could be left without any GP services for local residents as a result of cuts in national funding

    The Guardian, Friday 21 February 2014
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/21/funding-rural-gp-practices-close-bma

  150. Nature notes: http://www.wildlifeinsight.com/Insight/?p=3665

    Golden yellow flies covering cow pats are a familiar sight but it’s rare, understandably, that anyone gets down to take a close look. These Yellow Dung Fly are quite spectacular beasts.
    Insight into Yellow Dung Fly (Scathophaga stercoraria): common throughout Britain, in spring large numbers gather on cow, horse or sheep dung to mate and lay eggs.

    The larvae feed on the dung.

    They are an important food source for the Lesser Habbabkuk, Special advisor to the Minister for Cowpats.

  151. ‘Working people in the UK are seeing their living standards squeezed harder and harder every year. Energy, transport and housing costs are soaring but wages aren’t keeping up. Top pay keeps on rising, yet those on middle or low incomes see their pay packets continually eroded.

    While new jobs may be returning to the economy they’re increasingly low paid jobs, with low hours and low security. In-work poverty is growing in the UK, with more working people forced to turn to food banks or payday lenders.

    We’re backing Fair Pay Fortnight: Two weeks of events and actions from the TUC and Britain’s unions, aimed at getting the pay crisis firmly onto the public agenda.

    We’re running a petition, calling on the party leaders to make a public commitment to fair pay in their manifestos for 2015. It is essential that ordinary workers benefit from economic growth not just the wealthiest in our society. We need an economy that can create good jobs with good wages for everyone.

    Please join our call for fairer pay by signing the petition now.’

    http://act.goingtowork.org.uk/page/s/tell-the-party-leaders-that-britain-needs-a-payrise

    More on Fair Pay Fortnight at http://fairpayfortnight.org/

  152. Fool
    Yes Sir. I’m going to stick to cowpats. Anything’s got to be more relevant to the subject in hand than the endless harrumphing of the Horseshoe Bat.

  153. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Mar, 2014 - 5:28 pm

    John Goss

    No, John, it’s you who thinks this blog belongs to you and your supporters.

    The point is : your own two blogs have a pitifully small readership and hardly figure on the radar screen. So you latch onto this blog, which is widely read because of Craig’s good standing, as a vehicle to disseminate your hateful, mendacious and authoritarian views. Like a flea on an unwilling dog. You are a squatter and a coloniser, without the grace or good manners even to refrain from trying to boss others around.

    Go back to your own blogs and try to make something out of them if you can. You’re not fit to be on this one.

  154. Indeed Mary, by the time I get a client who can afford to pay for a job, it’ll be time to retire anyway. The cost of electrical materials has risen with our falling QE’d currency purchasing power. And cheap labour has flooded the market. Nobody has got any money to pay for inessentials, and what they have got is borrowed
    … which was the purpose of creating a recession….

  155. Guano: You’re capable of better and higher things than this bovine scatalogical fixation. Don’t let the arthropods get you down.

    I’ve love to hear your take on the second Engdahl piece, “Dagestan, Syria etc” linked above @8:57am.

  156. [automatic censor recognition] t….’s being?

  157. [automatic censor recognition] ( O/T ) H’s Topic being: where can I mate and lay my eggs on CM’s blog while censor not looking.

  158. First it was a virtual attraction of Mary that turned into vicious stalking, then the ‘too posh to talk proper’ came for John Goss who’s been frequenting this blog far longer than socket, soon it will be that German immigrant who gets to feel his jackboot.
    where will this all end?

    Thanks for the good news on Sasha Billy, he received as much violence as he was prepared to use on others.

  159. Meanwhile, Argentina, despite voting against Russia at UNSC on the Crimea issue, is back again all mates with Russia:

    “Russia’s Vladimir Putin has called President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and praised Argentina’s position against the “double standard” of world powers in the resolution of conflicts.”

    “The statement by the Foreign Ministry finally says leaders Putin and Kirchner discussed a joint agenda they had addressed at the G20 summit in St. Petersburg last year, involving key issues such as “energy, military, trade, strategic development and joint activities in the Antarctica”.”

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/155360/putin-calls-cfk-praises-argentinas-double-standard-concerns

    They’re even talking about setting up Russian military bases:

    http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/argentina-to-host-russian-military-bases-while-america-sleeps/

  160. Some video has emerged of the killing.

    Now they’ve got female police on the scene with clipboards and stuff, all very official and western looking, and they’re fiddling around at the bullet entry point trying to save his life or retrieve the evidence or something.

    WARNING: Not that grisly:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d79_1395749112

  161. Tony M

    Thanks for rescuing me from that small, fascinating world, back into the real one.

    The problem is not with Sufism, of the traditional or Fethullah political variety. The problem is when Egyptian Zionist Arab Nationalism uses the cultural blind obedience to the Ulema of Pakistan/Afghanistan to tell the ordinary Muslims to accept violence without questioning its validity. It’s not a matter that obedience is wrong, when it is to the right thing, but when it is invoked for the wrong thing, as in Syria, without discrimination, serving the cult of Zionism.

    Saudi Arabia seems to have been deceived into rejecting Deobandi Islam as being Sufi, when in fact it is passionately jihadist, and promoting Al Qaida as being political, when it is in fact nihilistic, brain-switched-off violence. Maybe they were deceived by the Arabic of the promoters of political Islam/ Muslim Brotherhood into thinking that they thought the same about Islam as the scholars of Saudi Arabia think about Islam.

    Turkish Islam is a kind of piracy, the buccaneer spirit that gathers the spoils of war under the licence of superpowers but outlawed and independent at the same time. Fethullah is slave of UKUSIS. for all the corruption I prefer real politicians like Erdogan any time.

  162. Mary 25 Mar, 2014 – 5:23 pm

    Signed and shared Mary, thanks.

  163. Nevermind: The beatings will continue until morale improves.

  164. Herbie, 25 Mar, 2014 – 5:57 pm

    Who knows, Argentine might be considering joining BRICS. If so it only needs Canada and Barbados to join and they’ll have to change the name BRIC-A-BRACS perhaps?

  165. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Mar, 2014 - 7:16 pm

    “More on Fair Pay Fortnight at http://fairpayfortnight.org/
    ________________________

    Since I agree with the concrete measures proposed in the text of the petition (eg higher minimum wage, more employers to pay the living wage, etc)I am happy to add my signature as well and thank Mary for having brought the petition to my notice.

  166. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    25 Mar, 2014 - 7:20 pm

    Nevermind

    and never fear – it’s not a jackboot but a rather stylish Italian mocassin of the finest leather nature can provide.

    I wouldn’t sully it with contact with your backside. :)

  167. “Yats’ is still pushing the IMF. Notable list of players.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/regime-change-in-ukraine-and-the-imfs-bitter-economic-medicine/5374877

    “In the days following the Ukraine coup d’Etat of February 23, leading to the ousting of a duly elected president, Wall Street and the IMF–in liaison with the US Treasury and the European Commission in Brussels– had already set the stage for the outright takeover of Ukraine’s monetary system. The EuroMaidan protests leading up to “regime change” and the formation of an interim government were followed by purges within key ministries and government bodies.

    The Governor of the National Bank of Ukraine (NBU) Ihor Sorkin was fired on February 25th and replaced by a new governor: Stepan Kubiv.[right]

    Stepan Kubiv is a member of Parliament of the Rightist Batkivshchyna “Fatherland” faction in the Rada led by the acting Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk (founded by Yulia Tymoshenko in March 1999). He previously headed Kredbank, a Ukrainian financial institution largely owned by EU capital, with some 130 branches throughout Ukraine. Ukraine Central Bank Promises Liquidity To Local Banks, With One Condition, Zero Hedge, February 27, 2014).

  168. Dignity Marches in Spain. Japan and Poland fell into the IMF money-trap. Only ‘Yats’ and Co see austerity as the only path.

    http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/23/trouble-flares-as-spain-s-dignity-marches-bring-thousands-to-madrid/

  169. http://thebricspost.com/brics-at-hague-slam-attempts-to-isolate-putin/#.UzHmVSgcWFJ

    “BRICS have slammed recent reports ahead of the G20 meet to isolate Russian President Vladimir Putin or to place any restrictions on his participation at the G-20 summit in Australia later this year.
    “The Ministers noted with concern, the recent media statement on the forthcoming G20 Summit to be held in Brisbane in November 2014. The custodianship of the G20 belongs to all Member States equally and no one Member State can unilaterally determine its nature and character,” said a joint BRICS statement on Monday. Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop had said earlier that Putin could be barred from attending the G20 Summit in November.

    BRICS Foreign Ministers met on the sidelines of the Nuclear Security Summit in the Hague on Monday to review cooperation among the bloc of five after the adoption of the eThekwini Action Plan of 2013.”

  170. Obama speaks from the Hague.

    “”So my response then continues to be what I believe today, which is: Russia’s actions are a problem. They don’t pose the number one national security threat to the United States. I continue to be much more concerned when it comes to our security with the prospect of a nuclear weapon going off in Manhattan,” said Obama.”

  171. http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/weak-sister/

    ” Why is it in our interest which way Ukraine tilts? It has been in the Russian orbit for hundreds of years under one administration or another. Are we disappointed now that Kiev won’t answer to the floundering Eurocrats of Brussels? Was that ever a realistic expectation? Really, the best outcome for western Europe would be a return to the prior condition of Ukraine as a mute bearskin rug with oil and gas pipelines running through it to the oil and gas starved West. The idea that the US could supply Europe with oil and gas instead of Russia is a preposterous fantasy. Anybody wondering whether Ukraine might turn its armed forces loose on Russian forces supposedly massing at its border should ask themselves how Ukrainian soldiers will get paid.

    I’m sure Russia can’t afford to annex all of Ukraine. Russia can barely maintain its paved roads. But it obviously couldn’t afford to give up its rented warm water ports and naval bases in the Crimea, either, with the new Kiev government making so much anti-Russian noise since the “revolution.” The annexation of Crimea changes nothing materially about the disposition of Russian military force in the region. They were already there. Given the size of their navy compared to the other nations in the neighborhood, the Black Sea is Russia’s bathtub and has been as long as anyone can remember. Was the brass at the US State Department shocked to discover this two weeks ago?”

  172. Resident Dissident

    25 Mar, 2014 - 10:26 pm

    @ John Goss

    “But that’s where you’re wrong. I never particularly targeted you and I can only assume, as I assumed yesterday, that guild had a part in this assumption. If I did particularly target you as being a blackshirt show me where and I will see if an apology is in order.”

    Shameful.

  173. Ben (25 Mar, 2014 – 8:54 pm)

    Kunstler had been a prime cheerleader for Obama, years before Obama had ever been heard of outside Democratic party machine circles. How he must lament the fall of his idol.

    The natural prime resources of Ukraine and the industrial heartland are largely in the predominantly ethnic-Russian east and south which are also the most populous. I wouldn’t trust these neo-nazi clowns the US has baited and switched for the Ukranian’s legitimate anti-oligarch movement, with the stewardship of the volatile Chernobyl reactor ruins. It seems a trite analysis but everyone’s, ours, the Russians and the Ukrainian peoples best interests would be served by Russian action to secure the country to some line well west of the Chernobyl exclusion zone, due south down to the Romanian border, leaving an economic basket-case strip bordering Belarus, Poland, Slovakia and Hungary to the anti-Russian zealots who can fester there to their heart’s content and prostitute themselves to the IMF, NATO, EU and US, until they get fed up playing soldiers and turn inwards on themselves, Lord of the Flies style and do peaceful peoples around the world a good turn by their self-eradication. At which point Ukraine can clean up, arrest the remaining miscreant ringleaders and the world can return to the status quo ante Yeltsin/Papa Bush.

    Until the EU looks and is something Russia – under Putin or some some equally competent non-stooge popularly chosen leader the Russian people endorse – would willingly, happily wish to join, not the centrist all-controlling monolith it has moved steadily towards, but the free friendly association and trading community of European peoples, we were once sold, we’re doomed to suffer repeats of this hair-raising unpleasantness.

    One happy day the United States could be permitted even to rejoin the international community, after a period of isolation and containment, sustained, until its people can own what horrors they’ve allowed in their name, and rise peacefully, united and radically reform themselves and institute some functional form of democracy there at last.

  174. Sofia Kibo Noh

    25 Mar, 2014 - 10:48 pm

    Re Yulia Tymoshenko’s aspirations…

    “Listening to the tone of her voice (these Ukrainian nationalists are speaking together in pretty good Russian, by the way; they are both urbane and Ukrainian is a village dialect) I almost feel sorry for her. Except that she is talking about murdering people like me (my father was born in Kiev, so I have the right to a Ukrainian citizenship). Ahem, President Putin, do you have a moment?”

    From, http://cluborlov.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/ukrainians-on-verge-of-nervous-breakdown.html

  175. Sofia Kibo Noh

    25 Mar, 2014 - 10:53 pm

    War may be raging here on the blog but back at Den Haag Humor Studio former star Obamah entertained a packed house with a stream of one-liners…

    “It is up to Russia to act responsibly and show itself once again to be willing to abide by international norms… if it fails to do so, there will be some costs.”

    “We [the US] have considerable influence on our neighbors. We generally don’t need to invade them in order to have a strong cooperative relationship with them.”

  176. “The idea that the US could supply Europe with oil and gas instead of Russia is a preposterous fantasy. Anybody wondering whether Ukraine might turn its armed forces loose on Russian forces supposedly massing at its border should ask themselves how Ukrainian soldiers will get paid.”

    Europe recognised the need to reduce it’s dependency on Russian oil and gas imports some years back and they’ve already been reduced from 45% to 30% although some countries are more dependent than others. The problem for Russia is that once the european market has been lost they’ll find it very difficult to win to it back and any deal with China is going to be several years away. Gas and oil account for 65% of Russian exports.

    The question is not what will Ukraine’s armed forces do but what is Putin’s next move going to be. Comparison has been made with events in the late 1930’s so as with Hitler and the Sudetenland will Putin be satisfied with “liberating” just part of Ukraine or will he find an excuse to invade the rest of the country?

  177. GutterTheQuantifier

    25 Mar, 2014 - 11:12 pm

    Newsnight. Paul Flowers. Genuinely decent bloke, stitched up like a kipper.

  178. Habby gushes:

    “it’s not a jackboot but a rather stylish Italian mocassin of the finest leather nature can provide.”

    The irony free zone of gabby habby.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYQG66S-nTE

  179. Sofia Kibo Noh

    26 Mar, 2014 - 12:11 am

    Herbie.

    Thanks. “The Nazis had flaws, but they did look fucking fantastic!”Russel Brand

    Ben.

    Your “entertainment” makes my brain hurt this time of night, but thanks anyway. Interesting stuff!

    Here’s Eva Cassidy “True Colours” to sooth your battered ego. I’d never ever fry your posts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SIX-Qp6v4k

    Goodnight all, и спокойной ночи товарищ Джон. Мы не должны оставить никаких намеков..

  180. “The problem for Russia is that once the european market has been lost they’ll find it very difficult to win to it back and any deal with China is going to be several years away. Gas and oil account for 65% of Russian exports.”

    Thanks for that, Kempe.

    How long will it take for the high dependency European states to wean themselves from Mother Russia’s breast?

    Surely the China deal will be done whilst she’s weaning the West.

    You do realise that fracking has a rather short life.

  181. Sofia; Nice sounds…thx.

  182. “The question is not what will Ukraine’s armed forces do but what is Putin’s next move going to be. Comparison has been made with events in the late 1930′s so as with Hitler and the Sudetenland will Putin be satisfied with “liberating” just part of Ukraine or will he find an excuse to invade the rest of the country?”

    I think there is a parallel with Germany. At the end of WWI Germany had no option but to accept the demands of the victors. In the 1930s when they had recovered they began to set right what they saw as the wrongs done at Versailles. Re-unite the German speaking peoples.

    At the end of the cold war with the break up of the Soviet Union Russia wasn’t in much of a bargaining position. Since around 2006 they have been in a better position and working towards something called Russian Revisionism. They aren’t planning on world domination like America is but I think they would like to just tweak the map of Europe a little.

    Had Germany not been ruled by extremist supremacists who ignored the rights of minorities I think their invasion of Poland might have been overlooked, they were only interested in the Germanic bits anyway, they had no desire to annex any Slavs.

    I think Russia may have their eye on a bit more of Ukraine yet, but not all of it, not by any means and I think they are prepared to wait, unless they are pushed.

  183. The Killing of NSA – High Level Corporate Hacking – Proof [Redacted]

    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/document/2014/03/20/hunt-sys-admins/

  184. @Tony

    Thanks for the history lesson. I didn’t realise that Churchill had been marginalised at the Yalta meetings, but could explain how he felt it necessary to make his “Iron Curtain” speech… or was that after the war had finished and Truman had become the leader of the free world (!)

    Truman took over at a rather delicate time, it seems. Through Hiroshima and Nagasaki he has to go down as alongside Stalin, Nixon, Pol Pot and Hitler as one of the most bloodthirsty men of the 20th century. Thank goodness no Brits. Hey, wait a minute… Blair may just have sneaked us into the rankings through the 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia. It is said that we get the leaders we deserve…

  185. Cheers, Mark.

    Who amongst us can weave a tapestry from all these threads?

  186. One more question, Tony…

    In the post-war carve up how did Bulgaria manage to stay relatively independent?

  187. ” It is said that we get the leaders we deserve…”

    Democracy favours the psychopath and the psychopath, unable to feel love, thirsts after power.

  188. @Fred

    It seems that International Law isn’t up to the job of “succession”. To my way of thinking it should be about letting a group of people in a region who fundamentally disagree with their government go independent. c.f. Crimea, Venice, Kosovo, Catalonia, Chechnia, Taiwan(?), Tibet, etc. This may not be palatable to leaders of states “containing” them but to me this is democracy (Letting the people decide) in action. It happened in the early 20th century to create the “free state” of Ireland.

    The argument against successionism is that bigger states are more easily (and economically) governed… but is that more important than democracy?

  189. @Fred2: “Democracy” may favour the psychopath, but Democracy as defined by Jefferson, etc. would soon find then out!

  190. them

  191. “It seems that International Law isn’t up to the job of “succession”. To my way of thinking it should be about letting a group of people in a region who fundamentally disagree with their government go independent. c.f. Crimea, Venice, Kosovo, Catalonia, Chechnia, Taiwan(?), Tibet, etc. This may not be palatable to leaders of states “containing” them but to me this is democracy (Letting the people decide) in action. It happened in the early 20th century to create the “free state” of Ireland.”

    What makes Ireland any more free than anybody else? A Catholic theocracy complete with institutionalised paedophilia? A civil war that just won’t go away? If people just put half the effort into getting on with each other as they put into hating each other the world would be a far better place.

  192. ““Democracy” may favour the psychopath, but Democracy as defined by Jefferson, etc. would soon find then out!”

    No, it wouldn’t.

    Don’t get me wrong, all other forms of government favour the psychopath too, some more.

  193. I always put the word free in inverted commas. Freedom can only come as a result of accepting responsibility for one’s actions. We’re all far too screwed up to do that. But it’s something to strive for :)

  194. John,

    As a global citizen, I note this:-

    “Ben, your comment about Russia Today being biased is undoubtedly true. All media studios and offices have editorial bias and I am open to contradictions from what people consider to be more reliable sources. But like you, in the long-term it has been Russia Today that has had the more credible news.”

    I believe:-

    A. All media, as you correctly point out, have an editorial bias -or – biases as the case may be.
    B. People globally are looking for reliable sources.
    C. And now I diverge. RT – has an agenda of exposing and challenging the failings of Western democracies. That has been done in the style – and to a high degree of journalistic competence – just like Press TV. So then – what was the BBC always about until these new ( sorry – “news” boys) on the block came along?

    That is the question.

    Kind regards.
    Courtenay

  195. Peacewisher: My post was rattled off as a quick gonzo summation from memory, Habbabduk has provided a clarification in respect to Greece. Looking at Churchill’s war history final volume, the famous ‘blue pencil’ incident, at a meeting between Churchill and Stalin with observers from other allied nations at times, in Moscow in October 1944, it gives the ‘percentages’ proposed by Churchill and cursorily acceded to by Stalin, as follows.

    Roumania: Russia 90%, Others 10%
    Greece: Britain with US 90%, Russia 10%
    Yugoslavia: 50-50%
    Hungary: 50-50%
    Bulgaria: 75%, Others 25%

    It all seems so woolly, there was no way a quantitative approach to something so nebulous as ‘interests’ or ‘spheres of influence’ which they all protested they each eschewed, could be workable, but it seems there was little or no later re-visiting of this ad-hoc agreement, though it was only for wartime expedience, and was a bit of grubby dealing thought never intended to be relevant or binding, even meaningful, after the end of the European war, though in those Balkan regions the war as such by then was over, but not the fighting or settling of scores. Churchill was ashamed of this dealing and asked, probably wishing Stalin would agree, that the paper should be burned, Stalin imploring Churchill keep it instead for posterity’s shame.

    There doesn’t seem anything particular about Bulgaria that might have resulted in any greater or special degree of independence you suggest it had. Simple indifference is improbable and does not account for it.

    I’ve no real interest in this, not nearly enough to pursue the matter further. As I’m now a CM blog outcast rebel for unspecified thought crimes, I’ll have to leave it there and leave here; I do have a recording of Churchill’s Iron Curtain speech amongst probably every other recorded speech he ever made which has survived, but not immediately to hand, I think the war was over by the time it was made and Churchill out of office.

    “The dirtiest mind in the world is the mind of a censor”

    Out.

  196. Churchill’s “Iron Curtain” speech was made in March 1946 although the expression may have been in use before then.

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