Andy Myles

by craig on March 26, 2014 11:18 am in Uncategorized

One of my oldest and dearest friends has gone public on his support for Scottish Independence. I am greatly cheered by this. More thoughts later.

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  1. Israeli Soldier Admits Lying About Being Stabbed
    March 28, 2014
    The Israeli soldier who was allegedly stabbed yesterday [Thursday, March 27, 2014], has admitted to the police that he made up the story, according to Haaretz.http://www.imemc.org/article/67384

    He was probably under orders from his superiors.

    ~~~~

  2. You did not get a reply from Komodo Macky. He’s knocked off the for the weekend probably. I think he is a weekday contributor here if I remember correctly. Little meeting of minds here these days judging from the previous page. If you look back at old CM threads, there was more fun and many more contributors. Where are they now?

  3. If I may make a suggestion about lack of fun on this thread, Mary.
    Most threads are theoretical ‘discussions’, but the possibility of Scottish independence is a real event. The vote is happening on September the 18th, and it is a threat to the British State, not just an internet ‘what if’.
    Defenders of the British State will do their damnest to dis Indy supporters, and vice-versa.

  4. Mary; “there was more fun and many more contributors. Where are they now?”

    The fun has become a casualty of shambolic moderating, past & present, and the neocon friendly position of CM’s Ukraine position, is probably responsible for the departure of many.

    “You did not get a reply from Komodo Macky”

    I think he was looking for a debate with anybody, even the you know whats, probably why he had a poke at you as well; alas I only managed to free some time in the late afternoon, too late perhaps for very bored lizards !

  5. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    28 Mar, 2014 - 7:02 pm

    “The fun has become a casualty of shambolic moderating, past & present, and the neocon friendly position of CM’s Ukraine position, is probably responsible for the departure of many.”
    ______________________

    It’s true that Craig’s posts on Ukraine/Russia/rasPutin et al did cause a sharp intake of breath and a certain tightening of sphincters, resulting in the departure of some. But hey, that’s the danger of the inmates believing, after time, that they own the asylum! :)

    But don’t worry too much – there are still far more people commenting here than on Mr Goss’s blog. Last time I looked, I couldn’t find a single comment on any one of John’s last half a dozen threads

    ***********************

    La vita è bella, life is good!.

  6. Returning to the topic, remember that?

    Is Mr Myles of the Liberal persuasion or of the SDP ilk.

    There have obviously been a great deal of so far hardly aired spookery involved in the creation of the SDP, or as it was formerly known as the SDA (NOT the Scottish Development Agency). Its backers, its creators were the usual rogues gallery of US-enslaved right-worshipping subservient NGO’s, that supported and drove Britain’s own colour revolution, it’s Yellow Revolution, must take its place alongside Rose, Orange and other shades of democracy’s undermining. Alongside spadeloads, assisted by the press, of demonisation of the democratic Left in Britain and a few murders along the way, Operation Gladio too wasn’t some japes over on the continent, but was as strong, as evil as operational over here. They might never have formed a government till this bastard Tory/Lib Dem coalition, but certainly delivered the Thatcher governments of ’79 and complete takover of the state by ’83. I always knew Shirley Williams and David Owen were wrong ‘uns but for every rat that left the Labour Party, a greater number remained to form the core of the ultra-reactionary Nu-Labour.

    And too, that’ll be Nicol ‘No Surrender’ Stephen, now in the House of Lords, that gallery of crooked, bent crones, after an epic journey from mediocrity through fourth rate to nothingness.

    Have a gong for services rendered on hands and knees before empire.

    http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster67/lob67-atlantic-semantic.pdf

  7. Habbabkuk

    ‘But don’t worry too much – there are still far more people commenting here than on Mr Goss’s blog…’

    At least he has the integrity not to conceal his identity. A person who endlessly sneers and smirks and taunts like you but hides behind the cloak of anonymity is a disreputable coward in my view.

  8. A Node… could never have been an anti English jibe.
    It’s a simple wee test that tells which part of Scotland you grew up in.
    And you’re a country boy… West country by the sounds of it.

  9. KingOfWelshNoir 9.37pm.

    Well said,well said.

    Habbabkuk you’re just a pathetic see through troll fake.

    Grow an honest pair or just go.

    You’re a dishonest broker on this blog Habbabkuk.

    Cowardice.

  10. State broadcaster says:

    Downing St issues statement denying claim that currency union between UK and an independent Scotland will be agreed

    Scottish independence: Currency union comments spark denial
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26791763

  11. Mr Myles with his RSPB connections might already know of this cruelty -

    ‘THE killers of Scotland’s birds of prey are switching from poisoning to shooting, trapping and nest destruction, the latest wildlife crime figures have ­revealed.

    However, figures from the Partnership for Action Against Wildlife Crime (Paw) Scotland still showed the number of ­illegal poisonings in Scotland doubled in the past year – there were three in 2012 and six in 2013.

    A red kite, a golden eagle and four buzzards were poisoned in 2013 but the number remains well below a peak of 30 in 2009.

    In a bid to curb the increase in killings, Paw has published a set of maps which show the location of all recorded crimes against birds of prey last year.’

    /..
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/birds-of-prey-spared-poison-to-be-stamped-to-death-1-3356544

  12. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Mar, 2014 - 8:28 am

    KingOfWelshNoir

    “‘But don’t worry too much – there are still far more people commenting here than on Mr Goss’s blog…’

    At least he has the integrity not to conceal his identity. A person who endlessly sneers and smirks and taunts like you but hides behind the cloak of anonymity is a disreputable coward in my view.”
    ____________________

    . My dear fellow, your thought processes need to sharpen up a little. Your post is a good example of how to confuse two entirely separate issues, I’m afraid. One issue is how many people are visiting/commenting on this blog (and on Mr Goss’s) and the other issue – which you’ve thrown in, somewhat irrelevantly, concerns identification/anonymity. To be noticed that your irrelevant point itself mixes up two things, ie, the anonymity or otherwise of the blogmaster and the anonymity or otherwise of commenters.

    On the anonymity of commenters,

    1/. it’s difficult to know whether commenters on Mr Goss’s blog would “hide behind the cloak of anonymity” becuase there seem to be no commenters at all

    2/. as for Craig’s blog, how many commenters have revealed their identity? I refer you to Ba’alZevul’s post yesterday for an example…)

    So, very politely, I would invite you to piss off.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Actually, some time ago Mary suggested registration, presumably on order to be able to comment on this blog.

    I think I’d agree with that. People wishing to comment should be registered….but should give full detail of themselves so that we could all get anh idea where they’re coming from. In other words, full name, town where they live, age, ethnicity, party or organisations they may be members of, what they do for a living, etc, and a brief biographical sketch. These details should be verified by Craig/the moderators on the basis of documentation where possible, and should be available for reference to all readers (eg in a special section of the website). The task of verification shouldn’t be that diffficult since there cannot be more than 20 or 30 regular commenters.

    There you are – I wonder how many people would be up fir that, eh, King?

  13. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Mar, 2014 - 8:33 am

    Jives

    “KingOfWelshNoir 9.37pm.

    Well said,well said.

    Habbabkuk you’re just a pathetic see through troll fake.

    Grow an honest pair or just go.

    You’re a dishonest broker on this blog Habbabkuk.

    Cowardice.”
    _____________________

    Give us an example of courage, Jives.

    Your full name, town you live in, age, occupation, ethicity, plud anything else you consider relevant.

    Thanks!

  14. Distractions, distractions.

  15. Please Mr Policeman, can I put ‘Somewhere in leafy Surrey’ as my place of residence.

    If I recall my suggestion was for a measure to combat t****s, the use of multiple names and sock puppeting.

  16. The Bundle of Sticks

    Independence from England could bring dependance on Europe.
    As a strong body wilful decision could be sounded, and With proper representation Europe could realise noble aims.
    As Kempe says we should think local in terms of trade and commercial interests to rationalise principles of consumerism. Joining the Euro has many possibilities.

    An old man on the point of death summoned his sons around him
    to give them some parting advice. He ordered his servants to
    bring in a faggot of sticks, and said to his eldest son: “Break
    it.” The son strained and strained, but with all his efforts was
    unable to break the Bundle. The other sons also tried, but none
    of them was successful. “Untie the faggots,” said the father,
    “and each of you take a stick.” When they had done so, he called
    out to them: “Now, break,” and each stick was easily broken. “You
    see my meaning,” said their father.

    Union gives strength.

  17. Habbabkuk

    As usual, you obfuscate:

    ‘…your irrelevant point itself mixes up two things, ie, the anonymity or otherwise of the blogmaster and the anonymity or otherwise of commenters.’

    There was no such mx-up: you invented it. My point was clearly about the anonymity of commenters on this blog, not on John Goss’s blog. If you click on John’s name it takes you to his blog where you can find out about him.

    Clicking on your name takes you, appropriately, nowhere.

    I am definitely in favour of non-anonymity, I think anonymity is responsible for much of the needless unpleasantness we get online; people strangely liberated by their avatar behave in ways they would never do if people knew who they were. I think most people would accept that. Of course there are occasions where people genuinely need to protect their identity, but these are rare. That said, I don’t advocate the extensive list of identity information you list at the bottom of your post.

    So, in answer to your question, yes I would be up for it. I think it would make a vast improvement to the tone, flavour and atmosphere of this and most forums and comment boards.

  18. Jay:
    Union is strength,but there are many ways of being United.
    Westminster abuses its power and banks have far too much influence over policy.
    Brussels has become fascist in nature and has a very obscure leadership dropped into place very much like the leaders of Italy,Greece and Ukraine.Unelected ,with usually a banking background ,dedicated to following through on IMF policy.
    Mussolini used that bunch of sticks as a symbol of Fascism…. in fact that is where the word comes from.

  19. @Kurtan

    Even if the people of Scotland vote for independence that is not what they will get, when Uncle Sam says shit Salmond will jump on the shovel.

    That is because the states of the United States are united.

  20. I like your avatar Andy. That’s Bibi with his bomb* and his famous red line isn’t it? Cannot say how many lines of all colours he himself has crossed.

    *PS Or ‘boeum’ as pronounced by the French policeman in ‘Allo ‘Allo.

  21. In a performance of ‘Allo ‘Allo by members of this blog, I nominate Habbabkuk, in the light of his recent suggestions, to play Colonel Von Strohm.

    ‘Name, rank and number and keep your thumbs in line with your trouser seams.’ ‘Shun! To the right, quick march!’.

    PS I want to be René.

  22. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Mar, 2014 - 10:02 am

    Before I know whether to feel pleased or not, I need to know what (?) ‘Allo ‘Allo is.

  23. “Downing St issues statement denying claim that currency union between UK and an independent Scotland will be agreed”

    That doesn’t change anything then, we still don’t know, the independents says they will have union and the unions say they will have independence.

    It casts a lot of doubt about Trident though.

  24. ‘Allo, ‘Allo

    It was one of the most over-rated sitcoms of all time, set in a French cafe during World War II. There was only one joke, as far as I remember, and that consisted of caricaturing the funny accents of foreign people.

  25. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Mar, 2014 - 10:25 am

    “There was no such mx-up: you invented it.”
    __________________

    It is not by denying something that you make it untrue, KingOfWelshNoir.

    Your response quoted a part of my post, which concerned the numbers of commenters of Mr Goss’s blog as compared to the number of commenters here, only to dive straight into a point about anonymity (John Goss’s and mine). Now these are two different issues which you have mixed up.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “I don’t advocate the extensive list of identity information you list at the bottom of your post.”

    Why not? Just giving a correct name and surname doesn’t mean very much, does it; it certainly doesn’t help readers gets a sense of the poster’s background and where s/he’s coming from.

    It is true that John Goss does provide some info, although it’s sketchy for an only casual reader who wouldn’t necessarily be able to make the connections. But even so he’s very much the exception. Who’s Ba’al Zevul (apart from being Komodo)? Mary? Herbie, Macky, Jives, Doug Sccorgie? Fred, DoNNyDarKo, Tony M? Our Californian seer (“Ben”)? Never mind all those “new” names which suddenly popped up on the Ukraine threads.

  26. Resident Dissident

    29 Mar, 2014 - 10:25 am

    KOWN

    But it still attracted more attention than your books!

    BTW I did read one many years ago – but sorry I found the humour somewhat forced and hence false.

  27. Fred. What Is the necessity of Trident. Controlled destruction?
    Interesting, such efforts and money employed in controlled construction is some what more appealing though….

    Ah jobs. o well have to go with Trident then.

  28. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Mar, 2014 - 11:22 am

    KOWN

    Thanks for the info. Ignorance was bliss… :)

  29. @Jay

    It’s something everyone seems to feel strongly about, both sides have their arguments and good arguments they are. I wouldn’t like to say which side was right and which side was wrong.

    If Salmond gets a lot of people voting for independence because they think he will get rid of Trident then decides it can stay that would be wrong, very wrong indeed.

  30. “If Salmond gets a lot of people voting for independence because they think he will get rid of Trident then decides it can stay that would be wrong, very wrong indeed.”

    It’s what politicians do, Blair sold off ATC after promising “our airspace is not for sale”, Wilson said the UK would ditch nuclear weapons when he became PM and he ended up buying Polaris, Kinnock swore he was going to abolish the House of Lords but still accepted a peerage and so on.

    Don’t kid yourselves that Salmond is any different.

  31. “Don’t kid yourselves that Salmond is any different.”

    I wasn’t, I don’t kid myself that junior ministers risk their kid’s school fees for nothing either.

    The message is clear, when Salmond has to choose between tree huggers and investment bankers he’s going to hang the tree huggers out to dry every time. So if anyone was thinking of voting on principles forget it, Salmond hasn’t got any.

  32. I meant to say René’s wife, Edith, in ‘Allo, ‘Allo.

    King of Welsh Noir didn’t like it. It was funny the first time around with the policeman’s mispronunciations. But like every series of programmes on the BBC, they continue for too long and become repetitive.

    10 years of it.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086659/?ref_=ttpl_pl_tt

    Sun’s out. So is the traffic. So are the would-be Bradley Wigginses en masse.

  33. Fred

    Ah intelligence and compassion.

  34. Ben over at Squonk tells us that Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone has joined Greenwald and the others at the Omidyar funded First Look.

    Will we ever read lines like these again?

    His July 2009 Rolling Stone article “The Great American Bubble Machine” famously described Goldman Sachs as “a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money”. The expression “Vampire Squids” has come to represent in financial and political media the perception of the financial and investment sector as entities that “sabotage production” and “sink the economy as they suck the life out of it in the form of rent.”‘

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Taibbi

  35. “Ah intelligence and compassion.”

    I honestly don’t know on nuclear weapons, only the future could tell.

    Everybody lives with a threat of annihilation hanging over them but on the other hand nobody flattened Coventry since we’ve had them.

  36. Resident Dissident

    29 Mar, 2014 - 3:35 pm

    Can we presume that Mary is eulogizing a different Matt Taibi than the one who gave the National Bolshevik Eduard Limonov a regular column in the magazine he published and who provided a foreword to one of his books? Or is it ok to support fascists as long as they are anti-American?

  37. Fiest look blog here Mary:

    https://firstlook.org/blog

  38. Resident Dissident

    29 Mar, 2014 - 3:37 pm

    “Sun’s out. So is the traffic. So are the would-be Bradley Wigginses en masse.”

    Let’s hope there are a few would be Victoria Pendleton’s as well! My daughter is pedalling furiously outside as we talk.

  39. Sir Bruce Keogh told Hunt to b****r off. The stooges that were set into the places to privatise the NHS seem to be revolting.

    ‘Control freak’ Jeremy Hunt accused of manipulating NHS for political ends

    Senior figures tell of fears that health secretary has torn up coalition pledge to make service operationally independent

    Denis Campbell, health correspondent
    The Guardian, Thursday 27 March 2014
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/mar/27/jeremy-hunt-control-freak-manipulating-nhs

  40. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    29 Mar, 2014 - 5:17 pm

  41. Fred. Sometimes something’s will change.
    We won’t need Trident.

    “I dont believe in the justice system. I have seen things go on in the world & how people get away with them”- Michael Jackson

  42. “Fred. Sometimes something’s will change.
    We won’t need Trident.”

    Yes some things will change, others will stay as they are.

    I’ve lived three score years never having to go to war and never having war come to me.

    Throughout history few have been so fortunate, that is a change worth keeping.

  43. Fred says, “I’ve lived three score years never having to go to war and never having war come to me”

    It’s just a pity that your beloved British State has been at war in other countries for each of those three score years.

  44. @Mark Golding

    If you do not consider First Look horrifying then may I recommend some Tarzie for you. Tarzie has been shifting perspectives on Greenwald/FirstLook for a while. I think you might like it. It’s all excellent so click away but here’s some to start:

    http://ohtarzie.wordpress.com/2013/11/30/in-conclusion/

    http://ohtarzie.wordpress.com/2013/12/10/readers-supplement-to-chris-hedges-piece-on-the-white-hatting-of-snowden/

    http://ohtarzie.wordpress.com/2013/10/29/glenn-greenwald-still-covering-for-omidyar-on-paypal/

    http://ohtarzie.wordpress.com/2014/02/24/the-friends-of-glenn/

  45. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    29 Mar, 2014 - 9:34 pm

    Phil; I’m not sure I want to call the Coroner yet. I think we should give them a chance. Any start-up co has got to find it’s bearings. As for Tarzie, we have a lot of ‘liberals’ in the US who think Snowden is a traitor. It’s useless to attempt some reason, because TREASON !

  46. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    29 Mar, 2014 - 9:41 pm

    Btw; Most of those ‘liberals’ are connected to the legal profession, and are jealous to guard their continued employment. They find it undermines the rule of law which insists that justice prevail and the guilty be punished; humanely, of course.

  47. Fred,

    There are warmongers everywhere around the world there are also many pacifists.
    The question is how do we fight for peace?

  48. Peacefully.

  49. “There are warmongers everywhere around the world there are also many pacifists.
    The question is how do we fight for peace?”

    You don’t, fighting for peace is like…

  50. @Jay

    There is no way, maybe one day reason will prevail, we can hope.

    “Naturally the common people don’t want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. it works the same in any country.”

    Hermann Goering

  51. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Mar, 2014 - 10:54 pm

    “Sun’s out. So is the traffic. So are the would-be Bradley Wigginses en masse.”
    __________________

    It must be that time of the year again – Mary’s complaining about cyclists!

  52. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Mar, 2014 - 10:59 pm

    “It’s just a pity that your beloved British State has been at war in other countries for each of those three score years.”
    ___________________

    Oh no, not that old canard again, surely?

    Though I do note that last time round it was “at war WITH other countries” and it’s now “at war IN other countries”, which would very conveniently cover events like EOKA in Cyprus and Mau Mau in Kenya.

    Creep!

  53. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    29 Mar, 2014 - 11:01 pm

    JIVES!!

    Wake up there! You were going to give us an example of courage and identify yourself fully for this blog, weren’t you? Unlike that “coward” Habbabkuk, dontcha know

  54. fred, 6:35 pm
    Juteman, 7:05 pm:

    Fred says, “I’ve lived three score years never having to go to war and never having war come to me”

    It’s just a pity that your beloved British State has been at war in other countries for each of those three score years.

    What effects do you think Scottish independence might have upon international politics?

  55. Channelling me again. Tedious.

    I was not complaining about cyclists, I was reporting a fact. I feel sorry for them cycling on the potholed Surrey Cary tracks that are called roads. The police cannot distinguish between drunk drivers and those weaving around the potholes!

  56. RE Trident…

    i’m heading to Glasgow next Saturday morning for the Spring Walk Anti trident March…

    Speaker’s Include Nicola Sturgeon… Anyone else Going along ?

    http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/spring-walk-for-peace-2014

  57. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    30 Mar, 2014 - 12:14 am

    Brian; Wish I could join you. :)

  58. Looks like they’ve got Ukraine sorted.

    Two opposing oligarchs are going to fight it out for the presidency.

    Much more honest than our system, where the oligarchs remain hidden, pulling the strings from behind the curtain.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/world/europe/ukraine.html

    Petro Poroshenko, his nickname seems to be “Great”, as in Peter the Great. Could be a joke, maybe not.

  59. No Fear Ben… You shall be there in Spirit… Cheers.

    Herbie Kool link on Ukraine Thanks

    This one takes on Obama Speech -

    “But even in Iraq, America sought to work within the international system. We did not claim or annex Iraq’s territory. We did not grab its resources for our own gain. Instead, we ended our war and left Iraq to its people in a fully sovereign Iraqi state that can make decisions about its own future.” – well, it is even inconvenient to comment. A complete trash. The latest briefing on the situation in the war-torn failing state of Iraq is here.

    “It is absurd to suggest, as a steady drumbeat of Russian voices do, that America is somehow conspiring with fascists inside of Ukraine but failing to respect the Russian people. ” – the facts tell for themselves – Ukrainian ultranationalists are funded and controlled by the US intelligence till now.

    Finally, another correct phrase: “No amount of propaganda can make right something that the world knows is wrong.” You are talking about your own propaganda machine, president Obama! Just switch it off!

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/obamas-speech-on-ukraine-vocal-juggler-at-work/5375846

  60. Just a minute: An Egyptian court has sentenced two supporters of deposed President Mohamed Morsi to death in connection with violence that followed his ouster last year.

    Are we stuck in the 17th century?

    The unseating of Morsi involved a labyrinthine of many-faceted subterfuge. Now, two more die by way of some of those tricks.

  61. BrianFujisan

    30 Mar, 2014 - 2:57 am

    Mark More on Death sentence’s in Egypt….

    The purpose of the military junta’s savage repression of the Muslim Brotherhood (MB), expressed most recently in the mass death sentence handed down March 24 against 529 of its members, is not just the elimination of its main bourgeois political rival. It is aimed at intimidating and suppressing opposition to what the military-backed government has in store for the working class.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/egypt-on-the-verge-of-a-social-explosion/5375316

    And Preparing for More False Flag Death and Shit stirring…

    In a devastating exposure of the criminality of the US-led proxy war in Syria, Turkish officials have been caught planning an attack on their own forces to manufacture a pretext to attack Syria.

    This is the content of a leaked audio recording, posted to YouTube, of a meeting between top Turkish diplomats and intelligence officials, including Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and Hakan Fidan, the head of Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MIT). At one point in the meeting, these officials discuss the possibility of organizing an attack from inside Syria across the Turkish-Syrian border, or on the Tomb of Suleiman Shah. Under the 1921 Treaty of Ankara between Turkey and France, then the colonial power in Syria, this tomb is a piece of sovereign Turkish territory inside Syria, guarded by Turkish forces.

    Much more on this @

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/leaked-audio-recording-turkey-plans-false-flag-attacks-to-create-pretext-for-humanitarian-war-on-syria/5375824

  62. You’re a fake Habbabkuk,

    My name is Jonathan Ives,and my full address is 22(1/1),Byres Road,Glasgow.

    Dont expect you to be so brave as to follow suit.

    Habbabkuk,you’re a coward-as we all know.

  63. Habba-fake.

    07526 916630

    Call me,sweetie…yeah?

    You fake coward.

  64. Habbabkuk,

    Why don’t you call me you cowardly yellow streak of fake piss?

    You’re a weak fake Habbabkuk.

    Weak,i said….yes that’s right.

    Weak and fake.

  65. Habbabkuk,

    I’ve given you my address and phone number.

    Why won’t you call me?

    Is it because you’re a fake plastic sock puppet troll or not?

    Come on Habba…grow a pair why dontcha eh?

    Let us know that you’re not a little prick Habba eh?

  66. Habbabkuk,

    What’s it like Habba?

    Every day waking up and looking in the mirror knowing you’re just a footsoldier repeating your Master’s lies and idiot self-serving narrative…

    For money?

  67. One of the Ukrainian ‘olli gark’ presidential candidates is a confectionery tycoon.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roshen

    The chocolate king. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_Poroshenko

  68. Another resignation in HMG. The spin doctors are between a rock and a hard place. The usual comment is that there is no comment.

    Mark Menzies quits as aide over newspaper allegations
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26806715

  69. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 8:57 am

    “I was not complaining about cyclists, I was reporting a fact.”
    ___________________

    I detected a slight note of complaint in your post, Mary, but of course accept your assurance that it wasn’t and that you were just reporting a fact.

    But, you know, this is supposed to be a political blog, not a blog for all kinds of scraps of not very useful info.

    Whatever. The sun’s shining (I hope) and I wish all an excellent day!

  70. That’s rich coming from t—l who tells us nothing and who informs even less.

    See Sofia on the preceding thread.

  71. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 9:12 am

    Jives

    You omitted your postcode, which is….? Employment, age, ethnicity, political affiliations if any…..?

    But, for the rest, and assuming that what you wrote is correct, I’ll admit you met my challenge and that you are entitled therefore to invite – but not demand of – others to reveal their real personae. I would not hold it against you if you were to call those who fail to respond to such an invitation cowards (compared to yourself) – provided of course that you applied that description to all and not just to me. I refer of course to all the regulars, new and old: Ba’al Zevul, Mary, Herbie, Macky, Phil, Tony M, Juteman, Jay, Californian Seer Ben, Mark Golding, BrianFujisan, etc, etc, etc….

    Have a nice day.

  72. Sore head this morning, Jives?

  73. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 9:17 am

    “That’s rich coming from t—l who tells us nothing and who informs even less.

    See Sofia on the preceding thread.”
    _________________

    I think I’ll pass on giving out information on the density of cyclists and on similar topics. No harm writing about it, but perhaps on another, less political blog. BTW, who’s “Sofia” – that curious middle-aged bloke pretending to be a teenage schoolgirl? Sound kinky to me :)

    All from me for now, have a nice day.

  74. Name: Elan Goldberg
    Address: 31a, Yom Kippur Rd, Haifa, Israel 194822014
    Occupation: Palestine
    Ethnicity: Chosen
    Political affiliations: For hire
    Payment: Shekels

    ;-)

  75. Potholes are political. The cost to the country in terms of personal injury, damage to vehicles, suspensions, tyres and wheels let alone the larger cost of having to resurface complete roads where the potholes have allowed water penetration into the foundations. There have even been crashes like this one between a car and a school coach.

    http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/incoming/road-repairs-plea-after-school-6881172

    Cameron keeps promising extra £millions but nothing happens. Much like all those promises to those recently flooded out.

    Surrey CC used to have its own labour force which was efficient and responsive when defects to roads or pavements were reported. All that was swept away and contractors were given county wide contracts. A disaster. Poor quality work, fraud in the contract, overcharging etc etc.

    A new contractor came with a PR flurry. All started well with proper repairs – cutting out a rectangle, refilling with hot asphalt, sealing with liquid bitumen etc
    Now we are back to men in white vans laying loose fill asphalt to fit the contour of the hole, tamping it down and driving off. Lifetime of repair – very short and costly if and when it is repaired again.

    Repairs to dropped gullies, dropped drain or inspection covers? Forget it. Just watch out.

    I pity any badly injured patient being transported by ambulance around here. It must be an absolutely horrendous experience.

    Jaw jaw….2012 ….
    Cutting roads repair budget will cost taxpayer more, MPs warn
    Motorists will have to spend more repairing their cars because cuts to road maintenance budgets will lead to more potholes, a committee of MPs has said
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9138507/Cutting-roads-repair-budget-will-cost-taxpayer-more-MPs-warn.html

  76. “KOWN

    But it still attracted more attention than your books!

    BTW I did read one many years ago – but sorry I found the humour somewhat forced and hence false.”

    The sock-puppets and trolls have a rare and unfathomable sense of humour. So dour! Never a witty comment! Devoid of original metaphor, trudging along in their leaking wellies through the churned up sludge, effluent, sewage and detritus of their lonely lives can hardly be conducive to humour. Except for those of us witnessing it. Reasoning of the type found in their comments does not demonstrate an intellect capable of understanding humour. No wonder they cannot smile at the things that make the rest of us laugh out loud. Pity them.

    http://www.malcolmpryce.com/novels.html

    Let me recommend “From Aberystwyth with Love” which I started yesterday. I met some familiar characters from “The Day Aberystwyth stood still” which I read last year with great pleasure. It has already had me laughing.

    When Habbabkuk was creeping up to the owner of the blog KingOfWelshNoir made me laugh by hinting that he would be bringing a teacher’s apple next. Since then Habbabkuk has demonstrated his originality by using the same illustration when I have agreed with Craig. So original. And that Stalin quote. Oh my God. Think of something new you dreary disrupters.

  77. Fear not Habbabkuk, we may have got through the horror of people enjoying themselves at Cheltenham, but we still have the disgusting cruelty of the Grand National and the bourgeois elitism of Wimbledon to come. With the added bonus of this year’s “FOR PROFIT” Tour de France starting in Britain, 2014 looks set to be every bit as miserable as last year, for some anyway. Have a nice day!

  78. Mary

    I’ve often noticed that some of the more expensive roads in Surrey are often kept in appalling condition. I believe this is a deliberate ploy to stop the proles driving through them.

  79. Resident Dissident

    30 Mar, 2014 - 10:25 am

    Mr Goss

    When crawling please remove the thesaurus from your teeth; it will make it easier to understand what you are saying. I do hope Mr Pryce has thicker skin than yourself.

  80. “I pity any badly injured patient being transported by ambulance around here. It must be an absolutely horrendous experience.”

    Also think of the Waitrose vans. Safe conveyence of their Heston Blumenthal Organic Fairtrade, Guetemalan cacao Easter Egg (£25) is all but an impossibilty in such an environment.

  81. Anon seems to have some deep knowledge of upmarket bonbons from Waitrose By Royal Appointment. Personally never go in to one. Too pretentious in their blandness and with all the partners working hard towards their annual bonus. Not a socialist worker in sight.

    He even knows of roads leading to expensive houses. Perhaps he lives in one. Perhaps we should be told. The only word missed out was ‘leafy’.

    PS The roads chosen for the Boris Prudential cycle routes are usually kept in good order. Must not have the cameras zooming in on any potholes or catching any cyclists being thrown off.

    The deal to have more of the same (more kettling of residents, more road closures) was done in secret between Boris and David Hodge, leader of Surrey CC. So open and democratic these Tories but mind you Hodge would have been no match for Boris in full on blustering steamroller mode.

    ‘SURREY County Council’s leader has revealed he made a verbal agreement with Mayor of London Boris Johnson to host two annual cycling events for five years without consulting residents.

    David Hodge made the revelation at a meeting of the council’s executive, saying he had taken the unilateral decision as he believed it would be “for the long term benefit of the community”.

    The circumstances surrounding the deal were heavily criticised by Councillor Hazel Watson, leader of the county’s Liberal Democrats, who had demanded to know how the arrangement had been reached.

    Her questions led to the release of a previously unseen cabinet paper from December 2011, revealing when Surrey had been committed to hosting both the Prudential RideLondon-Surrey and Tour of Britain cycling events.’

    http://www.dorkingandleatherheadadvertiser.co.uk/Verbal-agreement-council-Boris-Johnson-committed/story-20260843-detail/story.html

    No palms were greased we trust or promises made to rise in the partei.

  82. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 2:01 pm

    Anon

    “Address: 31a, Yom Kippur Rd, Haifa, Israel 194822014″
    ___________________

    Good God, Anon, we’re almost neighbours! See you at the next bar mitzvah!

    :)

  83. what a coincidence just round the corner from my autumn residence on HaHashamal Street, why don’t you come round mine in October, socket, around the 17th. when I come over to clean my swimming pool, you could have those physical education lessons you’ve been yearning for and chantering on about for so long.

  84. I don’t want to be anyone’s nanny but maybe the mods should remove Jive’s comments containing his address and phone number. Considering the content and time they were written it’s a fair guess he was a bit worse for wear.

    He can always repost them if he wants but the longer they stay there the more likely a bot will pick them up and spam him relentlessly for the rest of his days.

  85. “Not a socialist worker in sight”

    Lol! You write it like it’s a bad thing. Who wants some grotty scrote picketing the local grocery?

    “He even knows of roads leading to expensive houses. Perhaps he lives in one.”

    Then again, perhaps he doesn’t, perhaps he lives without a massive chip on his shoulder.

    “More kettling of residents…”

    More evidence, if needed, that you live a very sheltered life indeed.

  86. More weird and dark fantasies from Nevermind ^^

  87. Truth is hard to find (thanks Brian) most times smothered in wisecracks, padded and faked out by deception.

    Seeing through this suffocating noise is a gift. The proxy war in Syria has been exposed, guilt and shame fills the plate.

  88. That’s a fair call, Phil. No Eminence* would want it known they live in Glasgow’s equivalent of Camden. Terribly middle-class. Mods: delete!

    *I’m no longer using the term ‘Murrayista” as our host has shown a dangerous inclination towards independent thought on topics such as global warming and Putin’s Russia, leading one or two to resign in disgust.

  89. Has Jives even woken up yet?

  90. If you are back John, how did yesterday go? Hope there was a good turnout.

  91. Hurrah for those standing up to May and her border agency operatives. That was her head teacher, her fellow students and very many concerned members of the public.

    30 March 2014 Last updated at 11:56

    Yashika Bageerathi’s deportation to Mauritius delayed.
    Yashika was due to be deported to Mauritius without her family.

    The deportation of a Mauritian student has been delayed after lawyers said they would seek a High Court injunction to block her removal.

    Yashika Bageerathi, 19, from Enfield, was scheduled to be on a flight from Heathrow at 17:00 BST.

    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-26808636

  92. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    30 Mar, 2014 - 4:08 pm

    The Tag-Team has returned to supplant the tired and ineffective Freddie Blassie showmanship.

    Mark; I wonder if you would expand. MH 370 has dominated the news for 3 weeks, and possible misdirection is part of the double-header event.

  93. Judging by the school photo she might as well be home anyway.

  94. What an unpleasant racist remark. Some skins there too brown for your liking are they?

  95. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    30 Mar, 2014 - 4:34 pm

    Mary; Racism comes standard on this year and model.

  96. Habbabkuk,

    I met your challenge and,as predicted,you werent up for it.

    So,as predicted,youre a coward and a fake.

  97. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 5:40 pm

    “More weird and dark fantasies from Nevermind ^^”
    ____________________

    Yes indeed, his ravings remind me of the writings of Roman authors on the Germanic tribes living in dark forests full of unimaginable horrors

    Or perhaps he’s just hinting – yet again – that he’d like to punch me on the nose :)

  98. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    30 Mar, 2014 - 5:43 pm

    “So,as predicted,youre a coward and a fake.”

    How much evidence do we need?

    Hey, at least we know ‘coward/fake’ are not keywords.

  99. Jives’ earlier remarks have gone. Those of the t—-s remain. Strange that?

  100. Anon; “Judging by the school photo she might as well be home anyway”

    And there’s Craig insinuating that those who opposed his neocon take on the Ukraine were the BNP supporters ! It’s not the first time Anon has revealed his racism, as I distinctly remember a previous occassion, where his comments would have probably even made an actual BNP member disown him in embrassement !!

    I’m still wondering why this supposedly banned Poster not only can still post, but that his comments are allowed to stand ?

  101. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    30 Mar, 2014 - 6:05 pm

    Muhammed Ali and Freddie Blassie…lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyc8ER32Xrc

  102. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 6:38 pm

    Jives

    “Habbabkuk,

    I met your challenge and,as predicted,you werent up for it.

    So,as predicted,youre a coward and a fake.”
    _________________

    Yes, you met my challenge, issued after KingOfWelshNoir made a rather irrelevant point about John Goss posting under his real name whereas I don’t.

    For the rest, please REFER to my post at 09h12 on 30 March, and DISCUSS the following proposition : Habbabkuk is a bigger coward and fake, for not revealing his/her true identity, than the following assorted Eminences who seem to be keeping their heads low on this one (Herbie, Macky, Mary, Doug Scorgie, Jay, Tony M, Fred, Phil, Mark Golding, Californian Seer Ben, Ba’arZevul, Juteman, BrianFujisan, etc, etc, etc).

    Of you go!

    *********************

    La vita è bella, life is good!

  103. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 6:43 pm

    Macky

    “It’s not the first time Anon has revealed his racism, as I distinctly remember a previous occassion, where his comments would have probably even made an actual BNP member disown him in embrassement !!”

    __________________

    That’s a serious accusation. As our friend Doug Scorgie would surely say : please provide references to back up your accusation. Thank you kindly.

  104. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 7:12 pm

    Questions of Style — to Mr John GOSS

    “When Habbabkuk was creeping up to the owner of the blog KingOfWelshNoir made me laugh by hinting that he would be bringing a teacher’s apple next. Since then Habbabkuk has demonstrated his originality by using the same illustration when I have agreed with Craig. So original;”

    ________________________

    Yes, I wasn’t very original, was I, when I used the teacher’s apple image on 26 March (16h55). Do forgive me.

    BUT – what to say, then, about the poster who wrote the following on 16 March (09h22, “The Wrong Referendum” thread):

    “One sycophantic comment-maker has been raiding the apple-barrel to set himself up as teacher’s pet again…”

    Could it have been the very original John Goss? Why, I do believe it could! :)

    ***********************

    “Life has becolme better, life has become merrier!” (J. Stalin, ca. 1934)

  105. Sofia Kibo Noh

    30 Mar, 2014 - 7:30 pm

    Dad. 9 17 am

    How could you talk like that about your own daughter? It’s as if I don’t exist. You know what Mrs Prentice said about pausing for a moment before you hit that “Submit” button. Sometimes I think those parenting classes the magistrate made you do were a total waste of time. It’s a good job I have a hide like an alligator.

    Here’s another old fossil like you. The difference is he’s talking about something that matters and he makes sense.

    “Russia’s relationship with the West has been quite eventful in the post-Soviet period. We were welcomed to the democratic world, because they expected us to follow their orders and observe all the rules created by the west in this segment of the Christian civilization. This is not partnership, but rather an attempt to take under control a non-aligned geopolitical ‘turf’. We saw that attitude exposed in developments in Ukraine. We saw how desperate the West was to drag Ukraine into its orbit, without paying attention to the interests of the Ukrainian economy, culture and the nation. Ukraine is a very complex, multi-ethnic and multicultural country. The ultimate motive behind all that was to separate Ukraine from Russia. Remember how Zbigniew Brzezinski said that with Ukraine Russia is a great power, yet without Ukraine Russia is not something less significant? “ Sergey Lavrov 29 03 14

  106. Mary, Macky, Ben,

    Such disgusting waythism on display from each of you. The young woman ought to feel at home in the joyous, multicultural, enriched and diverse society we have created for her, not the deeply waythist and unenriched land from which she hails, which the backward natives still hold to be their own. There is no such thing as nation, race or belonging. They are just social constructs invented by the BNP. Shame on all three of you.

    Macky, I know you feel scorned, but there’s no need to try and fit in a little aside at Craig in every post. It just makes you come across as a sore loser.

  107. The list of commenters @ 6.38pm does not include the names of any t—-s. We know roughly who each other is, where they come from and therefore place trust in each other. OTOH we know nothing about the t—-s. That is the difference. We don’t even know whether you and your best mates here are male or female!

  108. Is it me or am I getting it wrong?

    He/she said: Judging by the school photo she might as well be home anyway.

    Now we are getting a lecture from the same person as if from Liberty or similar. Have the asylum gates been opened and the inmates released?

    NB THE FAMILY ARE HERE AS ASYLUM SEEKERS. DANGER OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE FROM A FAMILY MEMBER.
    ‘The A-level student came to the UK with her mother and younger brother and sister in 2011 to escape a relative who was physically abusive.

    The family claimed asylum last summer but all four now face deportation.’

  109. Forgive me, but shouldn’t domestic abuse in Mauritius be a matter for the Mauritian authorities to deal with? And if they are incapable of doing so then why should it be the UK’s responsibility to offer the victim(s) asylum? Are we not setting a precedent for anyone, anywhere to come and settle here as long as criminality can not be dealt with in their own countries? Do you understand the full implications of this?

    “Have the asylum gates been opened?”

    In answer to your question, yes!

  110. You are an obvious racist and also a twister. I have no wish to have anything further to do with you. Talk to your hand.

  111. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 9:26 pm

    Mary

    “We don’t even know whether you and your best mates here are male or female!”
    _________________

    And why should you? This is a political blog, not a dating site.

    £££££££££££££££

    La vita è bella, life is good!

  112. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 9:31 pm

    Very, very strange, that – a middle-aged man posting as a teenage schoolgirl.

    Perhaps a kind of phantasy, but certainly unhealthy.

  113. Thanks Mary for raising the issue of Yashika and facing off, together with Macky the racist Anon’s comment. I wrote to Mauritius Airlines director yesterday as did thousands of others. Power is in the hands of the people.

    Theresa May fills decent people’s hearts and minds with disgust.

  114. BrianFujisan

    30 Mar, 2014 - 9:37 pm

    Phil @ 2;55 Pm

    Well said…and i Agree 100%

    Could the Mods take Phil’s and Now My own request on this one.

  115. Thanks John. Did you get my earlier question?
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/03/andy-myles/comment-page-2/#comment-449946

    Horrible here isn’t it with these sickos on board? And very off putting and intimidating to anyone new thinking of posting here. That is their aim of course – to bring the blog down. Craig and the mods do not seem to get it.

  116. Guess who?

    I found this rather creative (and attributed) extract elsewhere but thought it worthy of re-quoting to see if anyone can put a name to the crackpot to whom the allusion is made.

    “In argument this person own’d his skill,
    For e’en though vanquish’d he could argue still.
    And words of tedious length he always found
    Dumbfounding gazing bloggers rang’d around;
    And still they gaz’d and still the wonder grew,
    That one small head could have so loose a screw.
    All others knew his game. His tedious plot
    Which marked him simply as a dull crackpot.”

    One word answers please. Habbabkuk, phone a friend!

  117. Mary, yesterday went fine. We had to leave early to get the hired coach back to the garage.

    There were delegates from all over the country, Scotland and Wales with a few others from abroad. It was announced that membership had increased by 200 in a day following Ken Loach’s Guardian article to which you posted a link. This is comforting. Decent people are looking for a grass roots alternative. It is early days yet but this might be the acorn planted among the grass roots from which a tall oak will grow.

    As with all political meetings there was hearty debate. I remain optimistic.

  118. “One sycophantic comment-maker has been raiding the apple-barrel to set himself up as teacher’s pet again…”

    I wish I’d said that. What a gem!

  119. [Note, Mary can't answer the questions so instead cries 'racist!'.]

    :-D

  120. Dross, you earlier claimed that the ‘trolls’ have no sense of humour.

    If you’d be willing to once again don the orange jump suit and do your one-man jig on top an apple cart in Brum, perhaps with some stuff about Rothschilds and HAARP thrown in, I’m sure we could show you how to laugh.

  121. Mary, I don’t think the mods or Craig are around and expect to see some moderation tomorrow.

  122. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    30 Mar, 2014 - 10:27 pm

    The T****ops are worth their weight in entertainment shite. :)

  123. Anon 30 Mar, 2014 – 9:07 pm

    “Forgive me, but shouldn’t domestic abuse in Mauritius be a matter for the Mauritian authorities to deal with? And if they are incapable of doing so then why should it be the UK’s responsibility ….”

    Forgive me, but shouldn’t domestic strife in Lybia/Syria/Ukraine/etc be a matter for the Lybian/Syrian/Ukrainian/etc authorities to deal with? And if they are incapable of doing so then why should it be the UK’s responsibility ….

  124. Brian writes:

    “Phil @ 2;55 Pm Well said…and i Agree 100% Could the Mods take Phil’s and Now My own request on this one.”

    Well, seeing as Jives (alive and presumably sober) has dropped in since last night’s outburst, perhaps he would have made such a request to delete himself? Not being a coward he wouldn’t ask his mates to it for him, or would at least insist you don’t fuss about it!

  125. Quite right, Node. Now answer the questions!

  126. Exactly A Node…

    And whilst Anon thinks we should not be concerned with Domestic Abuse in far flung Lands…. I think the Elite War monger Criminals would have us think otherwise…We are meant to Believe the Elite actually Give a fck ???

    For example -

    Women gained rights in Afghanistan in the 1970s, before the United States intentionally provoked the Soviet Union to invade and armed the likes of Osama bin Laden to fight back. There has been little good news for women since. The Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA) was established in 1977 as an independent political/social organization of Afghan women in support of human rights and social justice. In 2010, RAWA released a statement commenting on the American pretense of occupying Afghanistan for the sake of its women:
    “[The United States and its allies] empowered the most brutal terrorists of the Northern Alliance and the former Russian puppets — the Khalqis and Parchamis — and by relying on them, the US imposed a puppet government on Afghan people. And instead of uprooting its Taliban and Al-Qaeda creations, the United States and NATO continue to kill our innocent and poor civilians, mostly women and children, in their vicious air raids.”
    In the view of many women leaders in Afghanistan, the invasion and occupation have done no good for women’s rights, and have achieved that result at the cost of bombing, shooting, and traumatizing thousands of women. That’s not an unfortunate and unexpected side effect. That is the essence of war, and it was perfectly predictable. The Taliban’s tiny force succeeds in Afghanistan because people support it. This results in the United States indirectly supporting it as well.
    At the time of this writing, for many months and likely for years, at least the second largest and probably the largest source of revenue for the Taliban has been U.S. taxpayers. We lock people away for giving a pair of socks to the enemy , while our own government serves as chief financial sponsor. WARLORD, INC.: Extortion and Corruption Along the U.S. Supply Chain in Afghanistan, is a 2010 report from the Majority Staff of the Subcommittee on National Security and Foreign Affairs in the U.S. House of Representatives. The report documents payoffs to the Taliban for safe passage of U.S. goods, payoffs very likely greater than the Taliban’s profits from opium, its other big money maker. This has long been known by top U.S. officials, who also know that Afghans, including those fighting for the Taliban, often sign up to receive training and pay from the U.S. military and then depart, and in some cases sign up again and again.
    This must be unknown to Americans supporting the war. You can’t support a war in which you’re funding both sides, including the side against which you are supposedly defending Afghanistan’s women.

    Much More http://www.worldbeyondwar.org/wars-waged-generosity/

  127. “Quite right, Node. Now answer the questions!”
    OK

    “Is it me or am I getting it wrong?”
    No, Mary, you’re right, he’s a racist.

    “Guess who?”
    Habbabkuk

  128. Sofia Kibo Noh

    30 Mar, 2014 - 10:52 pm

    BDS gaining momentum.

    “Opposition to the BDS movement has become a crucial test of loyalty to the pro-Israel cause in the U.S. Jewish community in recent months. It has not replaced the Iranian nuclear program as the most prominent cause for alarm raised by the Israel lobby and its allies, but it is moving in that direction.”

    From, http://jfjfp.com/?p=57737

    John.

    Good to see you recognise truly great poetry. You are clearly a very cultured and discerning man.

    I had forgotten how much it rattles Dad’s cage. It’s moments like these that warm a troll’s heart and confirms the value of her existence. He would never admit it, but I know Dad’s secretly quite proud of me.

    Must go I can hear Dr Bullstrode’s car outside and he’s not going to be pleased having to come over at this time on a Sunday night to deal with the old fool. If I hang around he’ll gi

  129. Anon

    i stand by my request… Which i think is a fair one…

  130. I don’t know why some contributors seem very keen to go off on this random tangent about UK involvement in Syria, Libya, etc., but I have never expressed support for any such intervention, which is irrelevant anyway to the point at hand. So I would urge Node, Brian, Mary and any others who wish to join in to address the points I made at 9:07pm rather than sounding off about their usual bugbears.

  131. Node 10:47pm, hapless and floundering, cries ‘racist’, again!

  132. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 11:14 pm

    Mr Goss

    ““One sycophantic comment-maker has been raiding the apple-barrel to set himself up as teacher’s pet again…”

    I wish I’d said that. What a gem!”

    _____________________

    You did, Mr Goss. See your post at 09h22 on 16 March 2014 (“The Wrong Referendum” thread)

  133. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Mar, 2014 - 11:17 pm

    Fujisan

    “Women gained rights in Afghanistan in the 1970s, before the United States intentionally provoked the Soviet Union to invade”
    _______________

    Beyond parody :)

    What planet do you hail from?

  134. “i stand by my request… Which i think is a fair one…”

    Yes it is, Brian. And let me be clear that I am not in the least bit interested in Jives’ personal details.

    That said, I think our former mod and Suhayl did find out my identity and had a look through my Picasa web albums online, sharing some humorous details on here. I pointed out they were behaving like GCHQ and that seemed to be the end of it, but there seems to be no such thing as internet anonymity unless you try really hard at it.

  135. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    30 Mar, 2014 - 11:21 pm

    “I don’t know why some contributors seem very keen to go off on this random tangent about UK involvement in Syria, Libya, etc.”

    That’s because you don’t comprehend the word ‘context’ especially historical context.

    Maybe if you educamated yerself wrt World events, the exercise wouldn’t cause you physical and emotional pain.

  136. Habbabkuk, 11:17pm

    I’d missed that one. Beyond parody and into the realms of pure farce. Is there nothing the West can’t be held responsible for?

  137. Bin jamin,

    My point was about whether it is feasible to allow every victim of domestic violence, or any other crime, asylum in Britain.

    Now, if you would like to educate me wrt your theories on world affairs and their relevance to this case then the floor’s yours.

  138. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    30 Mar, 2014 - 11:32 pm

    ” Is there nothing the West can’t be held responsible for?”

    Krakatoa, dinosaur demise and the sacking of Jerusalem circa 607 BCE.

    Is my list complete?

  139. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    30 Mar, 2014 - 11:38 pm

    Anon; ‘Bin Jamin’ is supposed to offend?

    ‘Ben’ in Hebrew tradition means ‘son of’. Just so you know.

    According to the Torah, Benjamin’s name arose when Jacob deliberately corrupted the name Benoni, the original name of Benjamin, since Benoni was an allusion to Rachel’s dying just after she had given birth, as it means son of my pain.

  140. Theresa May is today’s hate figure but let’s face it, she has a lot more responsibility than writing letters to airliners.

    The support for the woman in question is probably well-meaning, but ultimately deluded. Many on the left just see evil Tory vs. poor asylum seeker and immediately and unthinkingly leap to the latter’s defence. Cases such as these do, however, have far-reaching implications – in this case a grant of asylum (which I understand has now been upheld) might imply that any victim of crime the world over can settle here as long as the law enforcement of their country is incapable of dealing with crimes committed against them. That’s quite a lot of people.

  141. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    30 Mar, 2014 - 11:53 pm

    Can you see how to defeat the opposition? Words have power. Comprende’?

  142. Never mind, Ben.

    Anyway, “Krakatoa, dinosaur demise and the sacking of Jerusalem circa 607 BCE.”

    Probably a Zionist conspiracy.

  143. Anon 30 Mar, 2014 – 11:13 pm
    “Node 10:47pm, hapless and floundering, cries ‘racist’, again!”

    Anon, if I’ve wrongly called you a racist, I apologise. Please clarify. What did you mean by:

    “Judging by the school photo she might as well be home anyway.”

  144. Anon..

    it would seem you have been on Craig’s Longer than i …can’t be sure, i read for a long time before posting…

    but but pause a while before jumping on the Habs blabbings…

    Check out some fotos Here -

    Women’s rights are increasingly heralded as a useful propaganda device to further imperial designs.

    Western heads of state, UN officials and military spokespersons will invariably praise the humanitarian dimension of the October 2001 US-NATO led invasion of Afghanistan, which allegedly was to fight religious fundamentalists, help little girls go to school, liberate women subjected to the yoke of the Taliban.

    The logic of such a humanitarian dimension of the Afghan war is questionable. Lest we forget, Al Qaeda and the Taliban were supported from the very outset of the Soviet-Afghan war by the US, as part of a CIA led covert operation.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/from-afghanistan-to-syria-womens-rights-war-propaganda-and-the-cia/5329665

  145. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    31 Mar, 2014 - 12:25 am

    Anon; Any time you wish to pay tutorial fees for educamation in Hebrew linguistics or tradition, I’m available.

    Gotta keep dem shekels coming in. Even a Leftist has his vices.

  146. Sofia Kibo Noh

    31 Mar, 2014 - 12:31 am

    Ben.

    Mohamed Ali link…Thanks.

    …It’s been a long, a long time coming
    But I know a change gonna come, oh yes it will..
    . Otis Redding

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyhL0ioST_U

    Goodnight all.

  147. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    31 Mar, 2014 - 12:32 am

    What am I becoming in the Craig Murray Alterverse?

    Maybe its Trotsky?

  148. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    31 Mar, 2014 - 12:36 am

    I Knew you would appreciate that, Sophia, :)

  149. Habbabkuk, 6:38 pm; of the thirteen people you list, I have been in e-mail contact with six or seven, spoken on the ‘phone with four, and actually met two.

    Anonymity has effects at the commenter’s end, too. If anyone who knows me sees my comment here, they knows it’s by me. I wonder which if any of your friends have read your comments here and know that Habbabkuk is you. I wonder if the views you express anonymously would affect others’ decisions about you, if they were to know it was you.

  150. International implications of Scottish independence. Anyone?

  151. Ben – Morsi was cagey like a fox; he knew he was elected to fail, to destabilise Egypt and once again invoke a military rule, this time the army returning to ‘free’ the people from ‘Brotherhoodization’ of the state, that was stifling civil society and choking an already obstructed legal system.

    Morsi caught on quickly that Putin would refuse to take up his baton and run with a Russia/Syria/Iran/Egypt pact. Putin knew his UKUSIS Brotherhood masters would take him down as quickly as they had elevated him to power.

    Exactly as John Brennan imposed, ‘Traitor’ Morsi will now witness his so called following lieutenants, his radical allies privileged to his game, die in damp torture chambers, pawns in a barbaric and brutal blueprint for power.

  152. Excuse me but if MH370 was pinging for a further SIX HOURS after loss of ATC contact, wasnt someone supposed to tell the Malaysians, so that an aerial interception could be made. Instead they had the world diverted to the South China Sea for another SEVEN DAYS?!!

    The Malaysians are either stupid or complicit. We need to investigate INMARSAT right here in London.

  153. Ben-Scot, 11:32 pm; no, the 1883 explosion of Krakatoa was caused by an accident in 2008 at the European Incoherent Scatter Scientific Association EISCAT ionospheric heater facility at Ramfjordmoen, near Tromsø, Norway (over two hundred times more powerful than HAARP). Due to an overlooked toolbar setting, an attempt to transmit a 30-second advertisement for Doritos brand tortilla chips to a solar system 42 light years away resulted in the time-reversed scalar wave which destabilised the volcanic island.

  154. Phil & Brian Fujisan et al,

    Appreciate your concern and suggestions chaps …however:

    No,i wasn’t drunk at all last night as some seem to think,just sick of the bullshit artists/sockpuppets.

    I really don’t give a fuck if my details are posted and whatever spam/hasbara/spook shite i get back.

    I put my details upfront simply to show how cowardly the multi-ID liars and frauds these sockpuppets are.They could/would never do this.

    We are heading soon towards a world where nobody will be able to hide anymore and i am happy to stand as i am-for whoever wants to present my account,so to speak.

    Y’all know my particulars now.Cool.The good ones can call me anytime and come round for a coffee and chat,whatever.The rest of them can wallow in their own cowardice and hypocrisy.

    I feel sorry for the weakness and cowardice of trolls who hide behind their lies.

    Fuck ‘em all.

    Cowards.

  155. BrianFujisan

    31 Mar, 2014 - 2:29 am

    Well said Jive’s And Got your text too You got my No.

  156. Brian,

    Shit ..that was you last night then??…lol

    Regards..

  157. BrianFujisan

    31 Mar, 2014 - 4:57 am

    Yes Jives…. That was Me.. Peace And respect

  158. I note the racist troll proceeded with a little rant on immigration as if that excused his previous racist comment. UKIP have a supporter there I reckon. Normality is NOT resumed Anon. You will be remembered for this.

    There has just been a death at Yarls Wood detention centre which is where Yashika is being held. The woman who died was 41. An unusally young age at which to have a heart attack. An inquiry is being held.

    ‘A 40-year-old female detainee at Yarl’s Wood Immigration Centre has died, the Home Office has confirmed.

    Police have launched an investigation into the circumstances around the death at the centre in Bedfordshire, which is the main removal centre holding women and families facing deportation.

    Unconfirmed reports suggest the woman may have suffered a heart attack and had complained of feeling unwell.

    The Prisons and Probation Ombudsman has also been informed.

    A Home Office spokesperson said: “Sadly, we can confirm the death of a female detainee at Yarl’s Wood on 30 March.

    “It would not be appropriate to comment further as the death is subject to a police investigation. The Prisons and Probation Ombudsman has been informed in line with standard procedure.”

    Protests took place outside the centre on Saturday to vent frustration against the decision to deport Mauritian student Yashika Bageerathi, who has been housed at Yarl’s Wood since 19 March.

    A legal battle is ongoing to keep her in the UK.’

    BBC website

    ‘Yarl’s Wood Immigration Removal Centre is an immigration detention centre at Milton Ernest in the Borough of Bedford in Bedfordshire. It opened on 19 November 2001 and was built to hold up to 900 people making it the largest immigration detention centre in Europe at the time. Since opening in 2001 has been dogged by controversy. In February 2002, it was gutted through a fire, reopening in September 2003. Throughout its operational period a number of hunger strikes and riots have occurred there. On 11 January 2011, the High Court ruled that the continued detention of the children of failed asylum seekers at Yarl’s Wood is unlawful.

    It is operated by the Serco Group.’

    My idea of a hellhole. Read on
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarl's_Wood_Immigration_Removal_Centre

  159. Habbabkuk; “That’s a serious accusation. As our friend Doug Scorgie would surely say : please provide references to back up your accusation. Thank you kindly”

    Always happy to back-up my POVs;

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/10/edward-snowden-gets-sam-adams-award/comment-page-14/#comment-436012

    (not actually the one I had in mind, which seems to have been removed, but this one is also quite bad enough)

    Let’s not forget your own BNP like revealing comments also;

    “the perpetrators should, after they have served their sentences, be deported to the country(countries) whence they or their forefathers came so that they could practice their bestial predilections on young girls of their own country and religion?”

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/01/uzbek-cotton-slavery-campaign/#comment-389572

    Plus here’s you sock-puppetting as an anti-Semite;

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/12/palestine/comment-page-2/#comment-384619

    Speaking of sock-puppetting, funny how you & Anon not only have the same shared avatar, but also echo the exact same shared views.

  160. Ba'al Zevul (No, I don't.)

    31 Mar, 2014 - 8:22 am

    “So it seems that your doubly charge of neglecting his responsibilities to the people who actually voted for him, and concentrating too much on international affairs against their wishes, is not borne out, and the opposite is revealed to be true.”

    You’re talking about his Hillhead years, when he was indeed the very model of a red Clydesider, and none the worse for that.

    Nevertheless, since he went south, ceased to take the Labour whip, and went into the selfpromotion business, his Commons voting record has been abysmal. And should Russia and Iran prove to be hostile entities, which god forbid, but our neocons would just love, he has given aid and comfort to them.

    Which. A. British. MP. Has. No. Business. Doing.

    But if you don’t agree with that as a matter of basic politics, then I cannot hope to convince you.

  161. Ba'al Zevul (No, I don't.)

    31 Mar, 2014 - 8:34 am

    “….time-reversed scalar wave which destabilised the volcanic island.”

    which also accounts for the dinosaurs. The waveform collapsed ca -63My to produce a megaparticle collision near Guatemala (as it is now). It wasn’t an asteroid.

    This is secret.

  162. More on the bag carrier, Mark Menzies, Con MP Fylde who has resigned as PPS to Alan Duncan. Duncan is now DfID Minister and was previously a FCO minister for the Middle East an North Africa.

    Menzies will be refuting some of the claims we hear.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592478/Tory-MP-Mark-Menzies-quits-drug-rent-boy-claims.html

    He is a member of the Conservative Friends of Israel. Surprise? No surprise.

    His register of interests http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=24804 reveals that he has visited all these countries – Saudi Arabia. Israel (several times). Algeria. Azerbaijan. Switzerland. UAE. Sri Lanka.Jordan. Eqypt. Kurdistan et al.

    Many of those places were on Fox and Werrity’s itineraries. Was Menzies going to Herzliya too at some stage? Or perhaps he has just been a messenger for HMG.

    Previously he carried Prisk’s bag. Prisk was a business minister and then a housing minister before removal in 2013. Before Prisk he was Hendry’s PPS at the DECC.

    Donations received are recorded at Search the Money. £51,483 http://searchthemoney.com/profile/425

    That sum includes these donations made prior to his election in 2010.
    Windmill Business Group £8000
    Property developers Lytham St Annes

    Universal Products (Lytham) Manufacturing Ltd £10.000
    ‘UPL offers flexible, expedient solutions in the development, manufacture, filling and packing of a wide range of liquids, creams, ointments and gels.’ Their website

    Mr Menzies has certainly led a busy life since May 2010.

  163. Ba'al Zevul (No, I don't.)

    31 Mar, 2014 - 8:55 am

    Unconnected events?

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.561218

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/1.582901

    So that’s the moderates discredited then. Meanwhile Netanyahu confirms (for the benefit of anyone who, being blind, deaf and living at the bottom of an oilwell, hasn’t twigged already), that the peace talks are not going anywhere if he has anything to do with it. And he has-

    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Netanyahu-No-deal-to-release-prisoners-without-clear-benefit-for-Israel-346906

    And the whining continues. The UNHCR is the new Himmler…

    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Netanyahu-UNHRC-continues-its-march-of-hypocrisy-against-Israel-346929

  164. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Mar, 2014 - 8:56 am

    Macky

    “Let’s not forget your own BNP like revealing comments also;

    “the perpetrators should, after they have served their sentences, be deported to the country(countries) whence they or their forefathers came so that they could practice their bestial predilections on young girls of their own country and religion?””
    _____________

    The above attempted to encapsulate two points:

    1/. Where serious criminals are foreigners, they should serve their sentence and then be deported. No human rights nonsense about “having a girlfriend here”. If they have acquired UK citizenship by registration, that citizenship should be revoked
    2/. The victims of those grooming gangs were, curiously enough, all Caucasian and non-Muslim. I do not recall that any Muslim girls were groomed and abused. That, I think, is fair comment.
    +++++++++++++

    “Plus here’s you sock-puppetting as an anti-Semite;

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/12/palestine/comment-page-2/#comment-384619
    ___________________

    Taking the piss out of a hasbara poster, you chump (Oniel/O’Neil; smuty reference to a sausage): Habbabkuk is even-handed on his exposure of inanity and idiocy when they appear on this blog. You should try it some time, Macky.

    ++++++++++++++++

    “Speaking of sock-puppetting, funny how you & Anon not only have the same shared avatar, but also echo the exact same shared views.”
    ________________

    You seem to be the Hercule Poirot of sock-puppeting. Or perhaps the Inspector Clouseau. Here’s a task for you – go back to the various Ukraine threads and find out who all those “new” commenters who suddenly popped up (and haven’t been heard of since) really were.

    Off you go, O Dullest Blade.

  165. Clsrk I know you are a Wiki editor. How do you get errors corrected?

    The entry for Menzies is incorrect.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Menzies

    ‘Mark Andrew Menzies[2] (born 18 May 1971) is a British Conservative Party politician who has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for Fylde in Lancashire since 2010.

    He was formerly PPS to Charles Hendry MP, Minister of State for Energy and Climate Change before both moved in the 2012 Cabinet Reshuffle. He resigned as Parliamentary Private Secretary (PPS) to Mark Prisk MP, Minister of State for Housing and Local Government in March 2014.’

    It doesn’t mention that he was made PPS to Alan Duncan at DfID last Autumn following his job as PPS to Prisk.

    Prisk was booted out in Oct 2013 if you refer to Prisk’s Wiki entry, so Menzies could not have resigned as his PPS in March 2014!!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Prisk

    Interesting that all mention of Alan Duncan has been omitted or even excised. I have not looked at the edit history.

    Some editing by the Tory spin doctors perhaps? Don’t want any mud sticking do we.

  166. Mr Omlet (Olmert) has been found guilty of bribery. Will he go to jail? Rhetorical question. Nice type.

    Israel’s ex-PM Ehud Olmert convicted of bribery
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26815849

    Israel’s former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has been found guilty in a bribery trial in a case which forced him to resign to office in 2008.

    Olmert was convicted in what is known as the “Holyland affair” in which bribes were paid and received to speed up a luxury property development.

    He has already been cleared in several other corruption trials.

    The 68-year-old former Kadima party leader had denied wrongdoing and had hinted at a political comeback.

    Delivering the verdict in Tel Aviv on Monday, Judge David Rozen said the case “exposed governance that grew more corrupt and rotten over the years”, with bribes paid to public officials,” the Associated Press news agency reported.

    Olmert succeeded Ariel Sharon as Prime Minister after the latter had a stroke in January 2006. He was mayor of Jerusalem from 1993 to 2003.

    In 2012 Olmert was cleared of two major corruption charges but convicted of illegally granting favours to a business friend during his time as trade and industry minister under Mr Sharon.

  167. Ba'al Zevul (No, I don't.)

    31 Mar, 2014 - 9:12 am

    See mine @8.55, Mary. Same event. Different interpretation.

  168. Ba’al Zevul; “You’re talking about his Hillhead years, when he was indeed the very model of a red Clydesider, and none the worse for that”

    The second part of your assertion, namely he spends too much attention on international affairs to the detriment of his constituents, is rather oxymoronic as it was this very attention to World affairs that was a key factor as to why people voted for his present & previous election wins.

    “Nevertheless, since he went south, ceased to take the Labour whip, and went into the selfpromotion business, his Commons voting record has been abysmal. And should Russia and Iran prove to be hostile entities, which god forbid, but our neocons would just love, he has given aid and comfort to them.”

    Your “self-promotion” is just a subjective charge, he would argue that things like going on Celebrity Big Brother, was a means to an end, to bring politics to young people, as he was specifically told that his political conversations would not be censored, yet as we know he was doubly-crossed by being lied to on that score.

    He has answered this misleading voting record charge countless times;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEEtsVEYJw0

    Your “has given aid and comfort to them” is straight Neocon doubletalk, aimed at curtailing criticism of bad foreign policies undertaken by the West.

    “Which. A. British. MP. Has. No. Business. Doing”

    Not the dreaded “My Country, Right Or Wrong” mentality !!

    “But if you don’t agree with that as a matter of basic politics, then I cannot hope to convince you”

    You’re certainly right on that score.

  169. Sorry Ba’al. Missed that. So our state broadcaster followed the line given. Omlet is bad boy etc.

    PS Still will never ever forgive him or Livni for Cast Lead.

  170. Ba'al Zevul (No, I don't.)

    31 Mar, 2014 - 9:21 am

    Colonisation proceeds apace in East Jerusalem -

    http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=685451

    “A large part of the property, which also houses East Jerusalem’s main post office and an Israeli police station, was purchased last year by a radical settler group called Ateret Cohanim, which bought it from Israel’s Bezeq telecoms company.

    Located on the corner of Salah al-Din and Sultan Suleiman in the busy center of East Jerusalem just outside the Old City walls, the property is currently being converted into a Jewish seminary, or yeshiva, an Israeli official and Palestinian workers said.

    Ateret Cohanim actively works to settle as many Jews as possible in densely populated Palestinian areas in and around the Old City.

    The purchase was first reported in Israel’s Haaretz newspaper, which published part of an email in which Ateret Cohanim’s executive director Daniel Luria contacted supporters to announce the acquisition of more than 1,000 square meters in “a very large and strategic building” just outside the Old City.

    An Israeli official confirmed the group had bought parts of the property and was currently carrying out renovations in order to have it ready for occupancy before the week-long Passover festival begins in mid-April.

    “They are now renovating it for the yeshiva and for a school to prepare Orthodox Jews for military service,” he told AFP. “They are trying to set it all up before Passover on April 13.”

    Contacted by AFP, a spokesman for Bezeq refused to confirm who was behind the purchase.

    “We will not disclose the identity of the buyers,” he said.

    Luria declined to speak to AFP.

    The building is currently being renovated by Palestinian workers under the supervision of Israeli technicians and engineers.”

    (AFP)

  171. Me at 8.57 Clsrk Sorry Clark.

  172. Details of Olmert’s corrupt deals.

    Israeli media: Ex-PM Olmert convicted of bribery

    Posted Monday, Mar. 31, 2014 By ARON HELLER

    Associated Press

    JERUSALEM — Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was convicted on Monday in a high-profile bribery trial that will likely involve some jail time, Israeli media reported.

    The Tel Aviv district court handed down the verdict in the wide-ranging Jerusalem real estate scandal case related to Olmert’s activities before becoming prime minister in 2006. A total of 13 government officials, developers and other businesspeople were charged in three separate schemes.

    Olmert was forced to resign as prime minister in 2009 amid a flurry of corruption allegations. Monday’s verdict seals the most serious legal battle the 68-year-old Olmert has been waging since he stepped down and rules out any political comeback in the near future..

    /..
    http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/03/31/5694037/israeli-media-ex-pm-olmert-convicted.html?rh=1

  173. Jives 31 Mar, 2014 – 2:17 am

    I agree that they are cowards and not just because they hide behind their pseudonyms to snipe like instigators of the Kiev coup, but because I have yet to witness one of them criticise drone-strikes (the ultimate in cowardice). I stopped responding to one (who proves from his 30 Mar, 2014 – 11:14 pm he is totally devoid of understanding humour) because he would not condemn torture. It came about from a general discussion on torture which I tried to get Habbabkuk to condemn. Instead, as he did a usual diversion, trying to get a comparison of scale between torture and death in Nazi concentration camps and Guantanamo and Bagram. Although I thought it was a stupid comparison I provided an answer. I asked him to do the same. I repeatedly asked:

    “Do you believe it is legal to imprison, torture and kill people in Guantanamo and Bagram?”

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/01/syria-and-diplomacy/comment-page-10/#comment-440424

    I had to go out that evening. In my mind I knew Habbabkuk never answers questions, because that is not what he is here for. But I made a personal pledge to ignore this troll if when I came back he had made no attempt to answer my question. His business is to disrupt the blog. So he asks but never answers questions. He got this message from me.

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/01/syria-and-diplomacy/comment-page-10/#comment-440469

    He has to my knowledge never answered this question confirming tacitly that he does agree with the illegal imprisonment, torture and killing of those held in Guantanamo and Bagram. I have little time for this shit of a person. He is, as you have deduced yourself, a coward of the first order.

  174. Ba'al Zevul (No, I don't.)

    31 Mar, 2014 - 9:41 am

    “Your “has given aid and comfort to them” is straight Neocon doubletalk, aimed at curtailing criticism of bad foreign policies undertaken by the West.
    ….
    Not the dreaded “My Country, Right Or Wrong” mentality !!”

    You may dread it. I’m not sure why. When I was a kid, there were still a fair few blank spaces in the London map where counter-arguments had exploded in WW2. For me, the balance of terror is elsewhere.

    But if the British taxpayer is paying a British MP to support and represent British interests, then I think he/she is entitled to ask that the MP doesn’t engage himself on a freelance basis in the service of Iran, Russia, Israel, the US or anyone else. If you fail to see my point, you are also failing to see anything wrong in FoxWerrity’s (Gove’s, Hague’s, etc) Atlantic Bridge project. A neocon project. Back at you.

    As for the voting record, the numbers I cited are clear enough, no matter how G rationalises them.

    Self-promotion (if you look at his declared income) appears to come with benefits outside whatever public good he claims to be serving by, eg, putting on a catsuit on a reality TV show. Subjective? His socialist credentials are heavily tarnished by his fairly opulent lifestyle…idealism would seem to be at best a minor motivation for G these days. So, no.

    Anyway. You think I’m being nasty to George. But I’m trying not to be. I’m actually trying to be fair. This guy isn’t -

    “We all await the day when the people of Bradford West tire of Mr Gorgeous, and he moves on to the great Stamford Hill by-election of 2016.

    “Don’t kvetch with me,” he will dreidel. “Palestine, Zion: these are just two words for the holy land God has long since promised to good Jews like me. Now, let’s all have another Jaffa orange, do some more mitzvot and get in the Volvo.”

    Perhaps it is simply that Galloway understands the literal meaning of Islam: “submission”, as: “submission to that which improves George Galloway’s lifestyle”. Understandably enough, given his talent for storming out of interviews, he might argue that there is no higher path to righteousness than the day that a man lays down his own ego and yokes himself to believing in the saviour of the one true Labour Party.

    But in the meantime, he still has a lot of work to do on his present disguise. When Galloway was 900 lines deep into his victory speech, he made the sort of schoolboy error you just wouldn’t have got with Hussain, an actual Muslim. He invited everyone to join him for an FA Cup-style open top bus tour of the city around midday the next day. “What about Jumu’ah?” someone in the crowd shouted out. And it was then that Galloway realised that, yes, come to think of it, Muslims do rather like to pray around midday on a Friday.”

    http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/quango-islam-for-infidels-george-galloway

    Come to think of it, it can’t be a disaster for “Yes” that GG supports “No”.

  175. Mary 31 Mar, 2014 – 8:57 am
    “I know you are a Wiki editor. How do you get errors corrected?”

    Edit it yourself! That is the point of Wikipedia.

    Create an account, read a tutorial and take on the spindoctors.

  176. There are still a few places at the ICAHD-UK (Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions) conference in London this Saturday. It promises to be a very interesting conference with some excellent speakers: Ilan Pappe, John McCarthy, Jeff Halper.

    We are also saddened by the news below of the killing by Israeli soldiers of a nephew of Salim and Arabiya Shawamreh who spoke very movingly at our meeting four years ago about the impact on their family of house demolitions. Their home near Jerusalem has now been demolished six times by the Israeli occupation authorities.

    http://www.icahd.org/uk/node/542 The killing of Salim and Arabiya’s nephew by the IDF.

    http://www.icahd.org/uk/node/538 ICAHD Conference next Saturday

  177. The pitch of the trolls gets ever shiller.There’s some serious overtime being made,or there’s a baton change at the terminals… All for Craig’s blog.
    I suppose it is good for the ego to think that these employees are busy all day long being smart in trying disrupt and side track the blog,but to the part time visitor it’s demoralising to watch as the same ol suspects drift into what they’re here for.
    Isn’t it possible to build in a filter so a user can block out the voices that bring head pain ?
    Can’t believe that tax payers have to foot the bill for these jokers.

  178. Habbabkuk; “The above attempted to encapsulate two points:”

    You can try to backtrack in your trademark disingenuously weasel worded way, but the case you were referring to, all the perpetrators were British born Asians, so you were actually advocating one law for those of certain “forefathers”, and another for the rest. Further your remark was clearly stating that you prefer that foreign girls be abused in their countries rather than sex offenders be jailed in the UK; as to your irrational point that these sex offenders being racists because their victims were “Caucasian and non-Muslim”, it simply & clearly illustrates your own reflected bigoted mentality.

    “Taking the piss out of a hasbara poster”

    Yes of course you were, that’s when you are not busy fighting the Zionist corner by smearing all critics as anti-semites.

    Nothing to say about your alter-ego’s BNP like language ?

  179. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Mar, 2014 - 12:50 pm

    “Mr Omlet (Olmert) has been found guilty of bribery. Will he go to jail?”
    __________________

    Well, one swallow does not make a summer, but former President Moshe Katsav did (on rape charges).

    Will rasPutin and his oligarch friends ever go to jail? And President Nicolas Maduro Moros?

  180. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Mar, 2014 - 12:54 pm

    “Sorry Ba’al. Missed that. So our state broadcaster followed the line given. Omlet is bad boy etc.”
    __________________

    Straighten up, Mary. If the BBC had downplayed the affair, you’d have accused it of being in the pocket of the Zionists. Now that it hasn’t downplayed it (much to your surprise), it’s “following the line given”.

    I do wish you wouldn’t exorcise your demons in public.

  181. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Mar, 2014 - 1:10 pm

    Macky

    Make an effort, for Heaven’s sake. Even though you’re not the Sharpest Blade.

    Are you against extraditing foreign born serious criminals after they have served their sentence? If not, why not?

    Are you denying that the perpetrators of those several grooming/child abuse events were almost exclusively (1) of foreign origin – whether born in the UK or not, and Muslim, and (2) their victims were exclusively of British ethnic origin and not Muslim?

    Is it not perhaps significant that none of the young victims was Muslim? I suggest the reason is two-fold:

    1/. certain Muslims consider non-Muslims as cattle undeserving of human consideration (as certain Jews consider non-Jews in the same way), and

    2/. the perpetrators might have feared getting killed in an honour killing had they gone for Muslim girls.

    You do anti-discrimination, religious tolerance and anti-racialism no favours by parroting your ultra politically correct line. Grow up!

  182. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Mar, 2014 - 1:13 pm

    Macky

    ““Taking the piss out of a hasbara poster”

    Yes of course you were, that’s when you are not busy fighting the Zionist corner by smearing all critics as anti-semites.”
    __________________

    So according to you, I’m both an anti-semite and fighting the Zionist corner?

    Now, you may be a schizophrenic, but you musn’t assume that everyone else is :)

  183. Ba'al Zevul (Hot enough for you?)

    31 Mar, 2014 - 1:15 pm

    “I do wish you wouldn’t exorcise your demons in public.”

    If the spectacle is too distressing for your tender soul, you know where to go. Plenty of unexorcised demons there.

    “Will rasPutin and his oligarch friends ever go to jail? And President Nicolas Maduro Moros?”

    The entire Saudi royal family? Islam Karimov? (Gulnara’s there already, mind you. Allegedly) Nursultan Nazarbayev? Tony Blair? Silvio Berlusconi? (Ans: No)

    So many questions. Thank you for incessantly and pointlessly asking.

  184. Ba'al Zevul (Hot enough for you?)

    31 Mar, 2014 - 1:20 pm

    Reposted (Sofia Kibo Noh)

    “Ode to Dad.

    Upon yon struggling laptop taped away
    With keen intent to upset and dismay
    There, in his noxious manner, skill’d and rude,
    The old blogmaster sought to hush and rule;
    A man most drear he was, without a clue,
    I knew him well, as any daughter knew;
    Well had the trolling wreckers learn’d to trace
    The day’s distractions arrogant and base;
    Full well they laugh’d with counterfeited glee,
    At all his jokes, for many a joke had he:
    Full well the busy whinger searched and found,
    Conveying insults for to hound.
    Yet in his mind from endless contradiction wrought,
    His fevered accusations quite unsought.
    The village all declar’d how much he knew;
    ‘Twas certain he could write, and cipher too:
    Correctness he could measure, attitudes proscribe,
    And motives dark and evil then ascribe.
    In argument this person own’d his skill,
    For e’en though vanquish’d he could argue still.
    And words of tedious length he always found
    Dumbfounding gazing bloggers rang’d around;
    And still they gaz’d and still the wonder grew,
    That one small head could have so loose a screw.
    All others knew his game. His tedious plot
    Which marked him simply as a dull crackpot.”

    Premature, but true.

  185. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Mar, 2014 - 1:21 pm

    “..but because I have yet to witness one of them criticise drone-strikes (the ultimate in cowardice).3
    _______________

    I recall that I’ve asked you this question before, but of course without ever getting an answer.

    WHY, exactly, are drone strikes cowardice?

    Is their use more cowardly than the use for the first time of muskets against an opponent armed with swords and lances; than the use for the first time of cannon against those who had no cannon; against bombing from the air (to give only a few examples)? If not, then do you believe that the only form of warfare which is not cowardly would be when opponents are using exactly the same technology?

    I’d be interested to see where you’re coming from on this one.

  186. Macky

    “Always happy to back-up my POVs;
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/10/edward-snowden-gets-sam-adams-award/comment-page-14/#comment-436012
    (not actually the one I had in mind, which seems to have been removed, but this one is also quite bad enough)”

    My dear Macky, as even you ought to be capable of working out, no one is going to post that sort of thing on a public forum unless they’re trying to stitch someone up. If you believe I wrote that then ask the mod to check the IP. Failing that call the police, or are you afraid they might knock on your door?

    As Habba has observed re the Ukraine threads, you would appear to be the one here using multiple IDs – isn’t that why you always have a handy little store of old comments to bring up against someone very time the opportunity arises? I think we should be told!

  187. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Mar, 2014 - 1:26 pm

    Ba’alZevul

    “If the spectacle is too distressing for your tender soul, you know where to go.”
    _____________

    Good advice, I hope your friend DoNNyDarKo (12h31, above) follows it.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “So many questions. Thank you for incessantly and pointlessly asking.”
    ____________________

    And thank you and your fellow Eminences for never answering. Bringing that to light is one of the points.

  188. Ba'al Zevul (Hot enough for you?)

    31 Mar, 2014 - 1:40 pm

    “Always happy to back-up my chum buggerlugs’ POVs”

    Fixed.

    “And thank you and your fellow Eminences for never answering.”

    A rational entity might conclude that it is a waste of time asking, and abandon the transparent pretence of an earnest spirit of enquiry. Mightn’t it?

  189. Ba'al Zevul (Hot enough for you?)

    31 Mar, 2014 - 1:44 pm

    “Good advice,”
    As always. A pleasure.

    “I hope your friend DoNNyDarKo (12h31, above) follows it”
    I think you’ll have to lead him by example, buggerlugs. But I don’t actually know what he’s done to annoy you (more), and can’t be arsed looking. A provisional “good for you, Donny” is all that’s needed.

  190. Anon,

    Please clarify. What did you mean by:

    “Judging by the school photo she might as well be home anyway.”

  191. Why would shooting somebody in the back be considered cowardice?

  192. Here we go.

    A cut of the saw’s blade on the limbs of the NHS from a Blair ex civil servant, then Health Minister.

    Call for £10 a month fee to use NHS and £20 a night to stay in hospital: Former Labour health minister says out-of-date service needs the cash
    •Lord Warner called for levy to be paid before anyone receives free treatment
    •There is rising concern that the NHS is running out of money
    •Former adviser to Tony Blair said health service was ‘unaffordable’

    By Sophie Borland
    30 March 2014

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592986/Call-10-month-fee-use-NHS-20-night-stay-hospital-Former-health-minister-says-money-help-prevent-financial-crisis.html

    So those who can afford private health insurance will say ‘What’s the difference . I would rather go private and be in a nice hospital with a foyer that resembles a hotel.’ The rest of us can go hang.

    Warner’s Register of Interests

    1: Directorships
    ◦Executive Director, Sage Advice Ltd (own private company engaged in advisory work, including public affairs advice – see category 3)


    3: Clients
    ◦Adviser to Synlab Limited (German pathology company)


    4: Shareholdings (a)
    ◦50% of shares in Sage Advice Ltd (see category 1)


    10: Non-financial interests (e)
    ◦Trustee, Council for European and Palestinian Relations
    ◦AMember of Advisory Council of Reform (a think tank)
    ~~~
    113. Lord Warner: Labour – Former adviser (until 2009) to Apax Partners, one of the leading global investors in the healthcare sector. Current director of Sage Advice Ltd. Works as an adviser to Xansa, a technology firm, and Byotrol, an antimicrobial company, which both sell services or products to the NHS” and was “paid by DLA Piper, which advised ministers on the £12 billion IT project for the NHS” projects that he was responsible for when he was a government minister. Lord Warner explains his role here.
    http://socialinvestigations.blogspot.co.uk/p/lords-financial-links-to-companies.html
    ~~

    Warner has just been on Sky News saying that his proposals would raise £2bn. The ConDems have just spent £3bn on a reorganization that nobody wanted. No irony there.

    He introduced independent sector treatment centres which were expensive and generally speaking had indifferent results. Mostly South African owned companies set them up. They addressed the waiting lists and patients were treated according to their place on a list and not for reasons of clinical need.

  193. YouKnowMyName

    31 Mar, 2014 - 2:48 pm

    APRIL FOOL!

    Guardian Link from Agence France Presse report that the Ukrainian situation will soon be solved by Darth Vader, running for President! or something like that. BBC will announce that this is Putin’s fault, whilst RT will announce that everyone in Russia is happy for the new Federal Ukraine empire under Darth.

  194. God. I have been out in the garden for most of the morning, came in for a break and see they (the t—-s) are still at their task. Beyond a joke.

  195. To the Thicko t—-. The BBC DID downplay Omlet’s misdeeds. They reported the bare minimum cf that Star report I sent in which had all the details. ZBC wrote a few lines.

    http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/03/31/5694037/israeli-media-ex-pm-olmert-convicted.html?rh=1

  196. You are a day early for the UK YouKnowMyName. But I suppose you could be in another time zone.

    To keep you amused until tomorrow.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools'_Day
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_April_Fool%27s_Day_jokes

  197. BBC challenged for misleading its audiences on status of Jerusalem

    March 31, 2014

    The BBC’s insistence on referring to the whole of Jerusalem as an Israeli city, despite the position of international law, is being challenged in the office of the Information Commissioner by Palestine Solidarity Campaign and Friends of Al Aqsa.

    The two organisations have today submitted a request to the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) asking that it investigates the BBC’s decision to consider Jerusalem, in its entirety, to be Israeli.

    The BBC’s decision was outlined in an email sent to Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) in May last year by the BBC Trust. The email made clear that the BBC did not consider it was in breach of its editorial guidelines on accuracy and impartiality by referring to Jerusalem as an Israeli city.

    /..

    http://www.palestinecampaign.org/bbc-challenged-misleading-audience-status-jerusalem/

  198. The corporations should be taxed to subsidise the NHS as it is Britain
    Needs to finance the NHS. Something’s will need to change, with an ageing, ailing, selfish people the NHS has an ever increasing commitment to health care.

    I am sorry to say there imeasureable needless actions that cost the NHS that comes straight off the bottom line.
    Violent injuries
    Accidents through neglect.
    Sexual diseases, malfunctions.
    Abortions.

    Health and social guidance would be responsible in altering the NHS.

  199. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Mar, 2014 - 4:28 pm

    “Why would shooting somebody in the back be considered cowardice?”
    _____________

    In war (or war-like sitautions) I don’t think it would be.

    In peace, what is the difference between shooting someone in the back or from the front? Neither should occur.

  200. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Mar, 2014 - 4:33 pm

    Ba’al Zevul

    ““I hope your friend DoNNyDarKo (12h31, above) follows it”
    I think you’ll have to lead him by example, buggerlugs. But I don’t actually know what he’s done to annoy you (more), and can’t be arsed looking.”
    ______________

    That’s OK, happy to arse for you :) – anyway, other way round, BlabberFull: judging by the whine reproduced below, I think I must have done something to annoy him:

    “but to the part time visitor it’s demoralising to watch as the same ol suspects drift into what they’re here for.
    Isn’t it possible to build in a filter so a user can block out the voices that bring head pain ?”

    Boo hoo

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