Delhi Delirium

by craig on March 23, 2012 3:13 am in Uncategorized

I am well aware that Osborne has been redistributing money to the rich in his budget. I am also stunned by the idea that the state should see its role not as reducing regional inequality of wealth, but as reinforcing it through regional public sector pay rates.

But my days at the moment are like this. I get up at 7.30 am and after a very frugal breakfast I take a local taxi to the disastrously neglected and underfunded National Archive of India. I spend eleven hours there hastily transcribing from an enormous wealth of documents on Alexander Burnes – really beyond my wildest hopes – and then at 8.00pm the security guards kick me out, the curators having left some time ago. I get back to my budget hotel, take a light supper of imodium and activated charcoal, chat with Nadira, and then fall asleep exhausted.

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  1. I had to look him up …
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Burnes
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    However that matters not. What matters is that you are clearly passionate in all your journeys and views.
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    George Osborne on the other hand is little more than a Corfu Estate Party Rent Boy who has to dutifully bend over and take it from the Elite revellers. Osborne’s rectum and mouth are both slaves to his paymasters.

  2. Craig: are you heading off to Kabul on your researches? Last night I met quite by chance two people who knew you in Tashkent, one of who has just gone back as legal advisor to the Italian Embassy in Kabul, the other working on banking crimes.

  3. I sympathise with the difficulty of eating an India breakfast. But while you’re in Delhi, make sure you find a place that does a good Thali and make the most of it for you evening meal!

  4. Iain

    Have decided to return to UK before Kabul. Thought it might be prudent to leave with my publisher a finished book which a visit to Kabul will improve, but could be published still were I not in a position to write it up.

  5. @ Craig,

    You are very well placed to discern, in India, what significantly skewed income distribution does to the frabic of a society – so – maybe you need urgently to get your message through to
    Osborne.

  6. Avoid Qantas. John Pilger writes
    Up, Up And Away: How Money Power Works Down Under http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30887.htm

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    [...]
    In recent years, however, the safest airline has had close calls, including an Airbus A330 that went into a sudden dive in 2008 and injured up to 74 people, a Boeing 747 engine that blew up after leaving San Francisco in 2010 and a new A380 whose engine shattered over Singapore later that year. These, and a series of less serious incidents, have all happened since the airline was taken out of public ownership and handed to global banks. The largest shareholders include J P Morgan, HSBC and Citicorp, which are also among the top shareholders of Australia’s major banks and largest mining companies. The national airline, like the Australian economy, is mortgaged: the product of a bi-partisan political system dominated by rapacious business.
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    It was an article of faith that the world’s only island-continent, flanked by the two greatest oceans, needed a long-haul airline – until the asset-strippers took control. What followed is a cautionary, universal tale. Last October, without warning, the Qantas Chief executive, Alan Joyce, ordered the grounding of the airline’s global fleet. More than 68,000 passengers were stranded in 22 countries, and the entire Qantas workforce was locked out without pay. Joyce later admitted that tickets had been “mistakenly” sold for flights that Qantas management would never take off; the grounding had been planned well in advance.
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    This unprecedented action was the climax of a plan to crush the unions, Murdoch-style, and to take much of the company “off-shore” into Asia. A subsidiary airline based in Asia would employ fewer staff and pay them less, including pilots and engineers, in conditions once unknown to the world’s safest airline. For a decade, the company has been building wholly or partly owned domestic and regional airlines on this cut-price basis while closing Qantas routes.
    [...]

  7. Obama speaks of Gandhi and Mandela and sees himself in their image. equal. Deluded.
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    “The civil rights movement was hard. Winning the vote for women was hard. Making sure that workers had some basic protections was hard,” President Obama said at a fundraiser while talking about how difficult it is to bring about “change” in politics.
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    “Around the world, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, what they did was hard. It takes time. It takes more than a single term. It takes more than a single president. It takes more than a single individual,” Obama said.
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    “What it takes is ordinary citizens who keep believe, who are committed to fighting and pushing and inching this country closer and closer to our highest ideals. And I said in 2008, ‘that I am not a perfect man and I will not be a perfect president.’ But I promised you, but I promised you, I promised you back then that I would always tell you what I believe. I would always tell you where I stood,” he also said at a fundraiser in NYC.
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    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/02/obama_likens_himself_to_gandhi_and_nelson_mandela.html

  8. He must have a good tax accountant who knows all the loopholes.
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    George Osborne ‘not a top rate taxpayer’
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    Chancellor George Osborne has told the BBC he is not a top rate taxpayer so will not benefit from his own Budget policy for the highest earners.
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    He said he was “not a big winner from this Budget”, and was “trying to think about what’s right for the country”.
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    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17474501

  9. Nick Fletcher

    23 Mar, 2012 - 7:30 am

    This is a GREAT restaurant, near Jamme Masjid, suitable if you’re on a low budget http://www.karimhoteldelhi.com/profile.html
    Looking forward to the Burnes book one day.

  10. From the wikipedia article:

    “It came to light in 1861 that some of Burnes’ dispatches from Kabul in 1839 had been altered so as to convey opinions opposite to his, ”

    I think I see the attraction to the subject now :)

    India’s a great country- hope you enjoy your time there.

  11. Mary

    Some remaining scales fell from my eyes watching Obama’s speech to the UN General Assembly in 2009. Others were talking about global issues for their allotted time, but Obama came on and went well over time, talking a lot of crap about himself as if these serious people wanted to hear an election speech. Then Gadaffi came on and delivered his show-stopper – that’s probably why Barry had him and his country killed.

    I almost hope Romney beats him just to have a different brand of fakery on show. The effect on foreign policy will be minimal, and who in the civilised world gives a damn about US domestic policy?

  12. O/T: Public service annaouncement
    WARNING: SUB_MALWARE.
    I linked to the P*r*t*n H*rd Dr*ve on the Karimov thread. Only go there if you want ads for this ridiculous product to pop up on every site you visit. It drops a cookie (or maybe Google does) which runs a advert script replacing an ad on the page you open.
    If you did go to the PHD site,and are seeing PHD ads everywhere, delete your cookies, and the problem should not recur.
    Very sorry for this, it’s not always possible to check these things in advance, and it further confirms my low opinion of evangelical Crosstians.

  13. Don’t like your diet much Craig but your dedication to the Burnes story is admirable.
    Look forward to reading it.
    There’s another story needing to be told and thankfully some who won’t let it get cold.

    http://www.bristol247.com/2012/03/23/shadow-minister-attacks-watchdog-on-liam-fox-charity-42799/

    Can’t wait until you have enough rope to hang them all in your true tale of Lies Treachery and that odd Man Werrity.

  14. Curious. The Charity Commission’s investigation found that AB was not a legitimate charity, and ordered its closure. Therefore the Commission’s guidelines on disclosure cannot possibly apply to AB.
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    But here’s the nub:
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    “The Charity Commission issued a statement that said: “As is always the case, when we apply an exemption under the Freedom of Information Act and do not release information, we explain the reasons why to the person making the request. Where required, as in this case, we carefully consider whether the public interest in withholding information outweighs the public interest in disclosure.”
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    Now who, I wonder, told them that disclosure was not in the public interest? A lawyer who hadn’t read the papers? Or a slightly more influential entity?
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    http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/bulletin/third_sector_daily_bulletin/article/1123644/charity-commission-used-spurious-argument-atlantic-bridge-case/?DCMP=EMC-CONThirdSectorDaily

  15. Clues:
    http://www.civilsociety.co.uk/finance/news/content/7749/mps_call_on_government_to_review_charity_commissions_funding
    Louise Ellman on the side of the workers? Incredible.
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    Date unknown:
    {http://www.johnmannmp.com/complaints_to_charity_commission}

  16. Komodo,
    Serves you right, for taking the piss out of the rapture freaks. The mysterious ways also include the crappy adverts instead of the lill devils and their handy work with their lill pitchforks on the nether/tail regions.
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    Craig,
    I sympathies with you, and wish you luck, looking forward to read your up and coming book.

  17. Passerby: I can tell you’re Saved(tm). It was some comfort to find an evangelical user group whose members were complaining about the ad popping up everywhere too…
    Anyway, as far as I know, my own source of spiritual comfort and Biblical wisdom does not reach out to sinners quite as indiscriminately as TPHD: click in the knowledge of the Lord’s grace and protection, but don’t forget your tithe. Glory!
    http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

  18. Uzbek in the UK

    23 Mar, 2012 - 12:06 pm

    Take care of yourself Mr Murray. You must be working on one good piece of academic work. Modern days so called Historians (Niall Ferguson for example) do not bother to work in archives and sleep in cheap hotels in faraway places.

  19. Craig, you’re making me nostalgic. The happy days I spent in libraries and archives, munging through dusty, long-forgotten papers for hours and days and weeks on end. The joys of research…

  20. From memory having visited Delhi about 15 years ago, the Thali’s in the old part of the city were delicious.

  21. Sounds as if you are making good use of your time in Delhi, getting used to the food must take some time, you might get some British dishes in some of the better hotels or clubs, but I’m guessing here, others might know better.

    US staff were told to leave Ghaza at the beginning of this week, now this.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-199821/Three-Americans-killed-Gaza-attack.html

    To say that they did not know that these vehicles were US diplomatic vehicles sounds hollow. Maybe the IDF is being used to play politics, interviewing future Fulbright scholars can be such dangerous thing to do.

    But will baroness Ashton also pull out EU staff?

  22. Here they go again. Can they sniff oil or something?
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    23 March 2012 Last updated at 13:40
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    Somalia pirates: EU approves attacks on land bases
    The European Union has agreed to expand its mission against Somali pirates, by allowing military forces to attack land targets as well as those at sea.
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    In a two year-extension of its mission, EU defence ministers agreed warships could target boats and fuel dumps.
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    The BBC’s security correspondent Frank Gardner says the move is a significant step-up in operations, but one that also risks escalation.
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    Several EU naval ships are currently on patrol off the Horn of Africa.
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    They police shipping routes and protect humanitarian aid.
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    The EU says the main tasks of the mission are the protection of vessels of the World Food Programme delivering food aid to displaced people in Somalia, and the fight against piracy off the Somali coast.
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    In a statement, the EU’s foreign policy head Catherine Ashton said fighting piracy was a priority of the mission in the Horn of Africa.
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    “Today’s important decision extends [Operation] Atalanta’s mandate for two more years and allows it to take more robust action on the Somali coast,” she said.
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    The EU said “a budget of 14.9m euros (£12.4m; $197m) is provided for the common costs of the prolonged mandate”.
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    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17487767

  23. Nevermind. I thought it odd that there was no date or time on that Mail story and that there was nothing about those deaths on any other site including the BBC’s. I think it refers to this report from 2003.
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    GAZA ATTACK
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    October 15, 2003
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    A roadside bomb ripped through an armored van in the Gaza Strip Wednesday, killing three Americans traveling through the area in a U.S. diplomatic convoy. New York Times reporter John Burns discusses the attack and the situation on the ground in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from his perspective in Jerusalem.
    /…

  24. Think you’re right, Mary.
    No doubt about the date on this one, though..
    http://www.biu.ac.il/SOC/besa/docs/perspectives167.pdf

  25. The toxic Ungar in Ha’aretz today. In Ha’aretz, I stress. (As well as the JP, but that is unremarkable)
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/if-recent-israel-gaza-escalation-isn-t-war-what-is-1.420310

  26. “regional public sector pay rates.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14692596
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    Osborne=The Merchant of Venice.

  27. Apologise for the confusion caused, I thought I seen a 23 march date on the page. It did talk of bombing, nothing about groups active getting involved untile after the ‘bombing’. I think this is was an Israeli airstrike yesterday or the day before which lead to the call for US staff to leave.

    Thanks for the strategy paper Komodo. The aim of OP cast lead was to stop the missiles coming down on Israel, to that aim, it has failed.
    “Surely, if israel does not act strong enough, the number of missiles will increase”. was a justification for cast lead, again this overkill strategy has failed.

    Well, Israel did act strong, it killed mainly women and children which should have, no doubt, stopped the missiles, but it did not. Maybe, just maybe, they killed indiscriminately by targetting open places at a time when schools exchanged pupils, when there were lots of children running about, but it sure looked as if it was intentionally.

  28. Thanks for links Komodo, chilling though they are to read. Inbar and Singer reinforce the mindset of a General Eitan who referred to the Palestinians in Gaza as ‘drugged cockroaches in a bottle’.
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    “WHEN WE HAVE settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle.”—Rafael Eitan, April 14, 1983
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    “We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel…Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours.”—Rafael Eitan, April 13, 1983
    .
    This is the latest report on the second hunger striker, Hanaa Shalabi.
    What is there to say? Terrible.
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    Palestinian on Hunger Strike “in Mortal Danger”
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    After more than a month on hunger strike, Hanaa Shalabi is in “immediate mortal danger” and at “risk of coma” according to a Physicians for Human Rights doctor. Shalabi’s strike came at the heels of another high profile campaign by Khader Adnan who survived a 66 day hunger strike before the Israeli authorities decided to release him. Both were arrested under Administrative Detention, a military order that allows Israeli authorities to arrest anyone and hold them indefinitely, without charge or trial. The Real News’ Lia Tarachansky met with the families of the two prisoners and spoke to lawyers Shawan Jabarin for Al Haq and Sahar Francis of Addameer about the mass imprisonment of Palestinians:
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    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=8123

  29. The latest wheeze to defraud the 99% is a plan by London councils to take a cut from charities’ profits from donations of clothes in collection bins.
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    http://www.itv.com/news/london/2012-03-23/charities-attack-clothes-bin-plan/
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  30. boniface goncourt

    23 Mar, 2012 - 7:58 pm

    What’s with Baruch Goybama’s crocodile tears over the coloured person killed without due process in Florida? Every day Baruch’s fun drones kill coloured people without due process, only they are in Pakistan or Yemen.

  31. Quite right Boniface Goncourt, he’s a total hypocrite. How did anyone ever fall for for his hope and change rubbish? He is cold and calculating.

    “If I had a son, he would look like Trayyon.” FFS.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17492125

  32. Mary,
    The latest wheeze to defraud the 99% is a plan …..
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    These bastards day by day are closer, and closer following the plantation owners, and robber barons policies. The booze at the cheap end is to be doubled in the price, because it is better for the health of the fucking great unwashed. The same does not apply to the cheap subsidised booze flowing in the commons bars, there are laws for us, and there is no fucking law for them.
    ,
    As the high earners pay less and less then the low earners have to stand for the shortfall, and boy there is always an ingenious way of going about the business of ripping off the punters.

  33. after Le Monde said the passport found in the appt of the alleged Toulouse killer had Israeli stamps in it, some zionist websites attempted to deny he’d visited, yet now we have the following, which sounds more like “cover” – detained and released!

    Haaretz: French intelligence chief: Toulouse shooter arrested by Israel Police in 2010 for possession of a knife
    Bernard Squarcini tells French newspaper Le Monde that Mohamed Merah, who killed four people in an attack on a Jewish school on Monday, was held by Israeli authorities after he was found in possession of a knife.
    The head of the French intelligence agency DCRI said in an interview on Friday that the Toulouse shooter was arrested by Israel Police in Jerusalem in 2010, after he was found in possession of a knife.
    Bernard Squarcini told the French newspaper Le Monde that Mohamed Merah, who killed four people in an attack on a Jewish school in Toulouse on Monday, was held by police in Jerusalem during his visit to Israel in 2010, but was released shortly after his detainment…
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/french-intelligence-chief-toulouse-shooter-arrested-by-israel-police-in-2010-for-possession-of-a-knife-1.420420

  34. St Theresa of May seems to be in another spot of bother. She went charging in on orders of the ‘Koalition’ to divert attention from the negative comment on the Budget’s reallocation of money from the poor to the rich.
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    Hearing her using jargon like ‘pre-loading’ was excruciating.
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    Now the plan seems to be illegal and even the Health Minister Anne Milton said so. She was probably following orders from Lansley who is opposed to the minimum pricing. Wonder why that is? In with the brewers and distillers lobby.
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    None of the lot governing us are very bright.
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    ‘Drinks companies threaten legal action over Prime Minister’s assault on cheap alcohol, claiming it ‘breaks EU law’
    David Cameron’s plans to tackle the scourge of binge-drinking descend into chaos with hours of launch
    Alcohol firms say imposing a minimum price of about 40 per unit is illegal under EU competition law
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    Public health minister Anne Milton recently told MPs that minimum pricing was ‘illegal’ while Dominic Grieve, the Attorney General, is also believed to have warned Cabinet colleagues that it may breach European rules.
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    The announcement had been pencilled in for next Monday, but it was instead unveiled to a half-empty House of Commons yesterday – highly unusual as MPs are usually in their constituencies on Fridays.
    Indeed, this was only the fourth time in ten years that a minister has made an announcement to the house on a Friday – previous occasions tackled the more urgent topics of Libya, swine flu and Iraq.’

    .
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119546/Prime-Ministers-ban-cheap-drinks-breaks-EU-law-claim-alcohol-companies.html

  35. Dear Craig,

    There’s an interesting article by the novelist, activist, and writer, A. Roy about Indian capitalism and the vast disparity of wealth there, that Osborne seems intent on introducing back in the UK.

  36. I could not find that piece Writerman but this is interesting by the same author in The Hindu today, on the meddling of the US in Indian affairs.
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    US further trying to build a cold war situation in China, says the well-known writer
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    Well-known author Arundhati Roy said that the Indo-US relations were a “theatrical drama” enacted to induce India to support the US with a view to isolate Iran on one hand and help build a cold war situation in China.
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    Addressing a meeting organised by the Committee for Release of Political Prisoners on the occasion of the 80 death anniversary of Bhagat Singh, Ms. Roy said the main concern of the US was how to isolate and attack Iran for its nuclear programme. In the same way, China had become the target of the US as a result of the escalation of the conflict on account of capitalism.
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    She said the US had made Pakistan its ally but created a civil war in that country only to weaken it. The US was now interested in creating a similar situation in China with India as its ally. Accordingly, India had acceded to the US at every stage right from buying nuclear reactors to opening up foreign direct investment.
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    The big investments right now were in the education sector wherein US universities wanted to set up franchises in India. That is why all universities in India were shifting to the semester system of examinations like in the US. It was also not a coincidence that spiritual leader Sri Sri Ravi Shankar insisted that education should be privatised.
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    Ms. Roy said India before 1989 was non-aligned but today it was a natural ally of US and Israel. The demolition of the Babri Masjid and the opening up of Indian markets were a deliberate attempt to weaken opposition to India becoming an ally of the US. War and arms shopping were the two techniques of the US to bail itself out of a tight economic situation.
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    Earlier, civil rights activist Latif Mohammed Khan took exception to the failure of NGOs to raise their voice when Muslim youths were arrested after the blast in Mecca Masjid but released when the role of Hindu fundamentalists in the blasts was established.
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    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/andhra-pradesh/article3207193.ece

  37. Fed-up – Re the health of the great unwashed – I heard James Naughty’s interview on R4 with someone about the enormous rise in cases of TB amongst rough sleepers, particularly in London; now that should be something to make the ruling classes sit up and take note of what’s happening around them; disease and epidemics are not respecters of gated communities. A re-run of the Great Plague would be a sharp reminder that we are all in it together.

  38. So let me get this straight. Merah a petty criminal with a record as long as your arm, was a regular visitor to Afghanistan and Pakistan where he had received terrorist training to fight NATO,had been under surveillance by French security services for 3 – 4 years.He broke out of a prison in Afghanistan where he headed back to Europe.A North African Arab he visited Israel on a tourist visa, was arrested in Jerusalem for possessing a knife which could be bought in every 3rd or 4th shop in the Old City. Was on a US no fly list which is a bit like having your credit card and passport cancelled.
    The unit who were sent to capture Merah were under instructions to take him alive, so they use 2 very large explosions to force him out of the appartment where he jumps, only to be shot in mid air by a sniper.
    Nothing suspicious here , move on.
    I used to be under the impression that Spike Milligan had trained the terrorists with exploding shoes and underpants ,needing fuses to be lit from matches .. now I think that the security services have oversize shoes,red noses and white faces.

  39. I missed that Rose.
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    The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) releases new guidance about tuberculosis (TB) in hard-to-reach communities, following Health Protection Agency figures that show that in 2011 there were 9,042 reported cases of TB in the UK, an increase of five percent from new cases reported in 2010. The Today programme’s Louise Jackson went to visit an outreach programme in South London while Professor Mike Kelly, director of public health at NICE, outlines concerns about the disease.
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    40% of cases are in London. Oligarchs, dictators and ConDems watch out.
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9708000/9708385.stm
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    I though the piece was more demonisation of the untermenschen by the middle class professionals and Radio 4.

  40. “Oligarchs, dictators and ConDems watch out.” These, Mary, are hardly likely to go down with TB. More likely to be mown down. As are bankers.
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    http://johngossip.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/engendering-sympathy-for-bankers.html
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    Sorry, also off topic.

  41. deepgreepuddock

    24 Mar, 2012 - 12:19 pm

    Rose
    Sort of true and untrue at the same time.
    There is a a variable degree of resistance to TB and people sleeping rough are likely to have poor diet and addiction/alcohol problems, apart from poor hygiene, and other problems related to stress and chaotic lifestyle. As a result such people are much more susceptible to an infection like TB.

    TB is mainly a disease related to living conditions although in the past people who were at the upper end of the social scale also succumbed. However, although I don’t know the figures I am certain that the incidence of TB is much less where people enjoy good living conditions with god space.

    TB is well known to be developing varieties which show extreme resistance to treatments that in the relatively recent past have been effective and this process seems to be continuing, and there have been problems in the recent past developing vaccines, although that seems like a surmountable problem.
    Yes it is worrying but it is likely that the poorest, and least well educated will suffer disproportionately if TB becomes more common.

    Talking of diet in India, a friend who lived in Delhi for about 6 months, living on the local food and suffering frequent bouts of intestinal discomfort began to yearn for something plain and ordinary. She settled on the idea of boiled eggs. She also wanted some creature comforts as she had been living cheaply.

    So she went to an expensive hotel, booked in, and next morning settled down at a nice table with a white tablecloth and ordered two boiled eggs and toast for breakfast. They arrived and before she could do anything, a waiter stepped forward, flipped the tops off the eggs, and sprinkled curry powder all over them.

  42. What is the Russian for ‘turf war’?
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    Exiled Russian banker left in coma by submachine gun ‘assassination bid’ put under armed guard in hospital over fears of further attempts on his life
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    German Gorbuntsov was ‘blasted with a submachine gun’ as he entered a block of flats near Canary Wharf
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    Friends fear he was victim of mafia contract after he was a witness in the case of an attempted murder of another banker in 2009
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    Forty-five-year-old exile is in a medically-induced coma in hospital
    Gorbuntsov is also on Moldova’s wanted list over allegations of an illegal bank takeover and embezzlement
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    He has previously said: ‘If I go back to Russia, they will kill me’
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119384/Canary-Wharf-shooting-Russian-banker-German-Gorbuntsov-gunned-assassination-attempt.html
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    Nice type. Wish these Russian crooks would all clear off.

  43. The problem our health services have with TB is that it occurs in rough sleepers, those who still share needles and those permanently homeless in this country of 600.000 empty homes.
    The treatment for the modern varieties of TB is a six month affair, with daily routines having to be observed, a major problems with anybody who has no fixed abode or is drifting from am friends bed to another.

    Given time TB will spread and its ever shifting traits, like already mentioned, immune to today’s last generation antibiotics, will further evolve. It has the potential to become more lethal, faster than we can develop drugs against it.

  44. Mary,
    борьбе за сферы влияния
    “Struggle for sphere of influence”=”turf war”
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    ,
    ,
    TB a highly infectious, and deadly disease, and its incidents on the rise, is an alarming development. Those sounding so sanguine and oh so calm about it somehow ignore that the current health service could not cope with the outbreak of bird flue, so to expect the same organization that is getting privatized too, to be able to cope with spread of the deadly disease that can easily be passed on, through breathing and coughing, in such places as underground, and public transport.
    ,
    The other day I was talking to an Iranian who told me, in his experience, these days UK reminds him of Iran, as it was under the Shah. He could not hide his astonishment that increasing visible gap between the rich and the poor has grown so wide, and the rigid class structure that is almost immobile, as well as the puerile and infantile logic of consumerism that is so prevalent.
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    So it appears; the only way is down , baby!!!!!

  45. Uzbekistan closes the gas valve for Tajikistan
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    http://www.bakutoday.net/uzbekistan-closes-the-gas-valve-for-tajikistan.html
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    Uzbekistan Tajikistan advised that the 1 April ceases to supply natural gas to the country. About this BakuToday 24 March, it was reported in State-run companies “Tajiktransgas.” According to the source, the Uzbek gas in his letter to the Tajik colleagues explain the supply shortage of gas resources. According to reports, two Britons determined to ensure deliveries of Uzbek blue fuel in China and Russia.
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    We remind, according to signed 5 January this year, an agreement between “Uzbektransgazom” and “Tadžiktransgazom”, the amount of supplies for 2012 year is 200 million. cubic meters, and the guaranteed amount for the first quarter to 45 million. cubic meters of natural gas.
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    Meanwhile, the Agency “Asia Plus” writes that in fact such action, most likely due to the contradiction between the parties with respect to the Farhadskoj dam in the North of Tajikistan. “The territory of the dam and reservoir in 1933 Farkhad, were leased to Uzbekistan for 40 years. Although this period is long overdue, neighbors don’t want to return the land. Currently Uzbekistan intends to acquire dam and reservoir on the Tajik side has not yet agreed, “he said.
    .
    Tajikistan does not have its own resources to meet their needs of natural gas. At present, Russian Gazprom leads search for promising areas of Tajikistan. According to geologists, the country has sufficient reserves of gas, but it is not known when the first results would be available.

  46. Oops. Israeli diplomacy in action. NOT.
    .
    Ambassadors Of Portugal, South Africa, Teargased Near Ramallah
    Saturday March 24, 2012 07:11 by Saed Bannoura – IMEMC & Agencies
    .
    Ambassadors of Portugal and South Africa, in the central West Bank city of Ramallah, were treated for the effects of teargas inhalation after Israeli soldiers fired gas bombs at dozens of local and international peace activists during the weekly nonviolent protest against the Wall and Settlements in kufr Qaddoum village, near the Ramallah.
    .
    /..
    http://www.imemc.org/article/63199

  47. There was a public meeting last night at UCL with Michael Mansfield, Robert Green, the late Hilda Murrell’s nephew, and Dr Kate Dewes the co- authors of A Thorn In Their Side.
    .
    Michael Mansfield writes:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/mar/20/who-killed-hilda-murrell
    .
    Yet another miscarriage of justice. Andrew George who did not commit the murder of Hilda languishes in jail in the IoW.

    .
    The book is well worth reading. I think it is on Amazon now.
    .
    {http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/john-osmond/murder-of-hilda-murrell-abiding-mystery}

  48. @Craig,

    Off topic – someone emailed me this, this morning. I essence Cameron was funded by the same funder as Missick in the Caribbean:-

    ” The mother of all ironies; and injustices, of course!
    1. Chief Justice Richard Ground, an Englishman, suspiciously ruled in favour of the PNP, eventuating the reversal of an already certified PDM election victory, and the accession to power of Michael Misick and the PNP in 2003.

    2. Englishmen, at least in great part it is believed, funded the successful PNP election campaigns of 2003 and 2007.

    3. An Englishman played a major role in engendering the “systemic corruption” that the Commission of Inquiry branded the PNP government with. We know that Floyd Hall then Deputy Premier got at least $19 million “loan”, and Michael Misick, then Premier, got at least a $10 – $16 million mansion. (The Turks and Caicos people got two at least $100 million overpriced hospitals which more than covered the cost of the mansion and the $19 million ” loan”).

    4. The hospitals contract, which is now breaking the Turks and Caicos people’s backs financially – hardly unlike slavery, and continues to be a secret those having to pay for it, was cooked up and signed in England.

    5. As a result of the English financed suspected corruption, an Englishman, Sir Robin Auld, was appointed to head a Commission of Enquiry into suspected corruption.

    6. An English governor and an English government – the Foreign & Commonwealth Office – presided over that suspected corruption, having ultimate authority in the Turks and Caicos Islands.

    7. An Englishman, the governor – first Gordon Wetherell, and now Ric Todd , was given supreme power to clean up and fix the mostly English created mess we’re in. Democratic elections were eliminated in the process for a promised period of two years.

    8. In a very punitive manner, an Englishman, Parliamentarian Henry Bellingham came to town for a few days, and told us that until we met eight cooked up “milestones”, our democracy is being suspended indefinitely.

    9. The three top officials – the governor, the CEO, and the attorney general, are all Englishmen. And Englishmen permeate, at the highest levels, all Turks and Caicos government departments.

    10. Englishmen are being paid to the tune of $11 million a year to investigate, and prosecute where necessary, so far mostly the Turks and Caicos alleged corrupted individuals. We of course know that for every corrupted, there is a corruptor, and that they both should be prosecuted.

    11. As a result of all the above, the Turks and Caicos people are suffering, being punished with the indefinite suspension of democracy; with a government being run by Englishmen – all white of course; and with being branded, and as being considered the world over, as corrupt. We Turks and Caicos Islanders are the corrupt, and the English have the high ground of having to set us straight.

    12. Meanwhile, Englishmen’s pockets are overflowing with our US dollars “fixing” an English created mess, and the Turks and Caicos people are catching hell.

    Go figure: the English broke it, we get punished for it, and the English are benefitting from “fixing” what they themselves have broken. Only the English could get away with something like this. Or will they really, in the long run? Even for them, the longest rope has an end.

    I take this opportunity to offer sincerest sympathy and condolences to the family of Trayvon Martin, after the senseless and obviously racist murder of their son and family member. It is my hope and my wish that justice be served for young Trayvon, and that the twin scourges of racism and of the feeling superiority of one race of people over another, be soon cleansed from this earth. I trust too that we the Turks and Caicos people will also see justice someday; that the mother of all ironies and injustices that is killing us, will have been defeated.

    P.W. ”

  49. Bahrain body count: Another protester dies in govt crackdown
    24 March, 2012, 16:33
    .

    Bahraini protesters rally for political reforms in the Shiite village of Jidhafs, West Manama, on March 23, 2012 (AFP Photo / STR)
    .

    One more activist has died after inhaling tear gas during anti-regime rallies in Bahrain. Peaceful protests erupted in violence throughout the country Friday, resulting in brutal police crackdowns that used rubber bullets and gas to disperse crowds.
    .
    Anti-regime activists said that Ahmad Abdul Nabi was killed in the western village of Shakrakan during a clash with government forces. Police reportedly used a riot hose and tear gas to bring crowds under control, injuring dozens more.
    .
    Demonstrators are protesting against the brutality of the security forces and call for the ouster of the ruling al-Khalifa regime.
    A 59-year-old woman, Abde Ali suffered the same fate on Friday after breathing in tear gas during a demonstration in village of Jidhafs near the capital.
    .
    Following her death thousands of Bahraini citizens took to the streets to mourn those who had died during the protests.
    .
    Anti-regime activists also released footage of a teenaged boy, bruised and handcuffed, whom they claim had been abducted and sexually abused by government forces.
    .
    The 16-year-old was found in a store in the village Sanabis, outside of Manama, with his hands tied behind his back.
    .
    Despite the ongoing reports of brutal government crackdowns since the beginning of the uprisings in the country in February 2011, the Bahraini government maintains it is implementing democratic reforms.
    .
    They have also resolved to install video cameras in police stations to ensure that police abuse does not take place.
    .
    Activists argue that this will have little effect.
    .
    The UN estimates that about 13 people have been killed as a result of police brutality during anti-regime protests since the beginning of this year.
    .
    http://www.rt.com/news/bahrain-protest-death-crackdown-378/
    .
    Any of this on the BBC or in the media? No. Also remember Yates of the Yard is there now advising the Bahraini government.

  50. More on Kufr Qaddoum here, Mary:
    http://www.alhaq.org/documentation/weekly-focuses/551-army-dog-mauls-palestinian-protestor-in-kufr-qaddoum-
    Just another wonderful day in the Middle East’s beacon of democracy, eh?

  51. Oddie – O/T sorry
    .
    Mohamed Merah was no fanatic. He loved cars and girls. He was gullible, an easy mark and took the bait. He was probably autistic.
    .
    The attacker at Montauban was according to witnesses, fat with a scar on his face. He wore a motor-cycle helmet, the visor was up.
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17428860
    .
    Merah’s bike had a GPS tracking device fitted so that French intelligence knew his whereabouts.
    .
    This is a warning to British youngsters approached by handlers and offered trips abroad, money and fame to carry out ‘terror exercise rehearsals’ or anti-terror drills. You will end up dead.

  52. Deepgreenpuddock
    Our Indian brothers like chilli on their breakfast eggs.
    We English like lying. The political world would be so bland without it.
    .
    Mark
    I suspect that in most cases these young Muslims are not gullible at all, but are befriended by kind, avuncular political Muslims and served up to the intelligence agencies in exchange for deals in the Middle and Far East. There is a tradition in Islam of following those with greater knowledge than your own – and political Muslims put it to good use for their own nefarious ends.

  53. Cash for access. Breaking news.
    .
    Tory treasurer charges £250,000 for a meeting with Cameron – Sunday Times headline tomorrow.
    .
    The treasurer is a Peter Cruddas. The meetings will even extend to a meal with SamCam and Cameron.

  54. Further on the ITV website
    http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-03-24/sunday-times-video-allegedly-attempts-to-sell-access-to-the-pm/
    .
    Thanks for the link about the dog attack Komodo. The Israelis know that dogs terrify Palestinians anyway.

  55. Hit a nerve have they?

  56. Guilty as charged, Vronsky. Your solution?
    (welcome to the debate)

  57. G-d bless the Zionists, at least they are learning honesty:
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/154081
    .
    In clear: “We don’t give a Fosters XXXX for human rights, and if our best mate does, he’s gay”

  58. Mary,
    Cruelty seems to be a genetically shared characteristic of the “master race” : A sunny afternoon in the occupied Palestine

  59. “Your solution?”
    .
    Ahem. I’ve told you – devolution, separation, fragmentation, ungovernability. Set up local, parochial parties, vaguely socially democratic, definitely anti-centrist, thrusting on local issues, difficult for the Bullingdon Boys (of whichever party) to challenge without seeming remote and disengaged. Yes it’s scummy, but I hope you don’t imagine that the punters will traipse away from their tellies and vote for abstract intellectual liberalism. I also presume you’re aware that the only realistic (and darkly attractive) option is shooting a few carefully chosen arseholes, as thoughtfully recommended by Boniface (perhaps I over interpret his position).
    .
    Or you can just keep posting here. That’s really going to worry the bastards to death, that is.
    .
    I’m probably talking crap as usual, but there needs to be some imagining done ‘here or there or elsewhere’ (Eliot) of what we must do – not just this endless despondent cataloguing of the evils of our masters.

  60. Agree with bits of that, Vronsky. Particularly the shooting bit, although I do not imagine the punters will traipse away from their tellies when you offer them the opportunity of stopping a police bullet themselves, in a noble cause; and new arseholes usually arise to replace the ones with extra apertures (see Egypt, eg). We’re not NEARLY poor and oppressed enough for that. What is slowly sinking in is that the forms of national and transnational government are completely irrelevant: these exist solely as the tools of the extremely greedy and their life-support system, “the markets”. So I have some sympathy with the idea of devolution and downsizing of democracy.
    .
    Will this reduce the influence of capital? Somehow I doubt it. The downsized democratic units will still need funding, and deals will still be made. And I have no trustworthy method of ensuring that someone I vote for is not will not fill his boots courtesy of Tesco or PWC in exchange for his democratically assigned influence.
    I guess I’ll carry on coming here, then.
    1. Because it publicises – to some extent – issues which are poorly or not treated at all in the MSM,
    2. Because it enables debate, and this exchange is a good example
    3. Because the company is by and large congenial.

  61. boniface goncourt

    25 Mar, 2012 - 2:16 am

    “Key questions include how Merah, described by French intelligence boss Ange Mancini as ‘a little failure from the suburbs’, was able to amass an arsenal of weapons – including an Uzi sub-machinegun – and rent a car, despite having no clear source of income.”
    LOL…..remember the shoe bomber, the underpants bomber, all those other penniless morons with non-explosive devices who somehow had loadsa money after mysterious trips to Israhell…? And their little comedies always happen when Israhell needs a boost..?
    Just like Paris, 1938, where unemployed Polish Jew Herschel Grynszpan, having survived for 2 years without papers, job, money, or even knowing French, gunned down a German embassy official, thus
    provoking the anti-Jewish riots of Kristallnacht…
    “The assassin, who was well-heeled with both money and an expensive gun that he had just bought for cash, pumped the bullets into Ernst vom Rath…..Grynszpan had checked into an expensive hotel just round the corner from the offices of LICA, the forerunner of the modern Jewish activitist group LICRA, and it was LICA who at once hired one of the foremost barristers in Paris, and paid his legal costs when he was arrested. People are entitled to draw their own conclusions.”

  62. I don’t sctually believe this guy is dead-apart from officially.
    .
    A bit like Osama bin Laden.
    .
    It strikes me as being extremely remiss of the spooks to kill someone when they could capture and torture them for months using the latest brain toys,trying to find out the extent of their network and bakckers.
    .
    I’d imagine in the case of Osama bin Laden,after months of torture and,ahenm,brain-probing as to who his network and funders for 911 were the spooks are tired of Osama repeatedly moan -thru the waterboarding and torture- “Bush”.

  63. Everybody Andhis Brother

    25 Mar, 2012 - 3:46 am

    Scottish independence is already yielding dividends. The lies of warring states are being exposed.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/crime-courts/lockerbie-revealed-extracts-and-analysis.2012031696

    Hopeful as I was, I never expected so much from simple self-determination. Mister Murray, it’s a privilege to recognize a Scot in bad odor as one of the founding fathers of the world. I’ll get some malt oisce and drink to you tomorrow.

  64. MAYBE ROY SPEAKS TRUTHFULLY ABOUT THE CHILDREN OF A LESSER GOD:-

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29917

  65. Thanks for finding that piece by Ms Roy. Although long, it is excellent.
    .
    On the Wikipedia page for Mukesh Ambani, the main subject of that article, it says he is … a member of the board of directors of Bank of America Corporation and a present member of the international advisory board of the Council on Foreign Relations.

    .

    Enough said.

    .
    Incidentally Writerman had mentioned it earlier but there was no link.
    ‘writerman 24 Mar, 2012 – 8:34 am
    Dear Craig,

    There’s an interesting article by the novelist, activist, and writer, A. Roy about Indian capitalism and the vast disparity of wealth there, that Osborne seems intent on introducing back in the UK.’

  66. I bet that when Cameron and co. sing ‘Jerusalem’, they give the line ‘In England’s green and pleasant land’ extra oomph.
    .
    What hypocrites. Having tried and failed (so far) to flog off our forests and woods, they are now setting about the destruction of the Green Belt.
    .
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/hands-off-our-land/9165205/Countryside-planning-revolution-new-city-proposed-for-Midlands.html
    .
    The developers’ friends.

  67. Yesterday I was driving down the M5 at 06.20 in the morning and I overtook the coach which was crawling up a slope belching blue smoke as if the head gasket was gone.
    Possibly the driver was making for the Frankley Services to get his passengers out of harm’s way, but the engine must have seized exactly at a point where there was a footbridge and where there was no hard shoulder a few hundres metres short of the Services slipway.
    With hindsight he would have been better to have pulled over before the bridge. With hindsight I was going much too fast myself for the foggy conditions. One never thinks there will be a stationary object in the way. If I had been two minutes later I might have run straight into the coach which was sprawled right across the carriageway.
    Many Muslims are bussed to horticultural sites around the country to earn a living on the land for all our benefit.
    But when disaster strikes as on this occasion we believe in Allah’s control over our destinies.
    Indeed we belong to God and to Him is our return.

  68. Hi Craig — o/t — I did transcripts of your briefly missing ICD youtubes and sent them as attachments to you at the ru e-mail address. Hope you get them, hope they’re wanted.

  69. Guano Noted. You were lucky. You draw attention to the hidden world of the poor. Travelling on a crap bus, no limos for those workers going to a gang master’s packing shed for the minimum wage.

    When Cameron’s friends take over the road system, they will appropriate all the hard shoulders for extra lanes or widening. What then? Crash after crash?

  70. We do so agree.
    .
    She’s not the only one who wishes that……..

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/thatcher-i-wish-id-never-gone-into-politics-7584640.html

  71. Fink returns to lead treasurer role

    (UKPA)

    Tory peer Lord Fink is to replace Peter Cruddas as the party’s principal treasurer, it has been announced.

    Hedge fund millionaire Lord Fink previously held the role until earlier this month, when it was taken over by Mr Cruddas.

    A Conservative Party spokesman said: “In the light of the resignation of Peter Cruddas yesterday, Lord Fink has agreed to return as the party’s principal treasurer, the role he stepped down from at the beginning of March. Michael Farmer will continue to support Stanley Fink as a co-treasurer.

    “We are grateful to Stanley for agreeing to this and we believe that this will ensure that the treasurers’ department will continue to operate to the highest possible standards under his stewardship.”

    Hmmmm. Lord Fink…some cosy connections here.
    http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/41516/oona-king-michael-grade-stanley-fink-go-house-lords

  72. Now I am wondering….Murdoch’s Times broke the Cruddas story. Is the old bastard getting his own back for something Cameron did or didn’t do for him? Has Rebekah been thrown to thw wolves at last? How much deeper does this go?

  73. Thanks Komodo. They can always rely on Fink.
    .
    Listen to Paul Mason speaking to the useless drip Sir Christoper Kelly Committee on Standards ib Public Life on Broadcasting House this morning. Kelly does not speak of the complete lack of morals in this unpleasant affair, merely of the dangers of individuals funding parties. He even chuckled. He advocates public funding of course.
    .
    No rules broken. No laws broken. No money changed hands. The whole segment indicates that Whitewash Mason sees this as a close shave for the Tories but carry on boys making sure to keep it all under cover.
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b01dtfxd 6′ 45″ secs in

    Friends of Israel lobbies and party funding by UK/Israel dual passport holders were not mentioned of course.
    .
    Better stick to Newsnight Mason.

  74. JC are boasting that Fink will be joined by three new Jewish peers in the House of Lords, Monroe Palmer treasurer of the Liberal Democrats and ardent Friend of Israel, Michael Grade of Channel 4 and ITV and a Jonathan Kestenbaum of the UJIA.
    .
    |I said the other dau that the Star of David was missing from the new window in Westminster Hall.
    .
    http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/44005/tory-treasurer-becomes-lord-fink

  75. Hidari on Medialens has produced this list.
    .
    Amid the ‘concern’ for cash for access…..
    Posted by Hidari on March 25, 2012, 1:06 pm
    .
    Amid the media’s oh-so-sincere concern about ‘cash for access’, remember that this (below) is all perfectly legal and, indeed, is the oil on which our ‘democracy’ runs.
    .
    ‘The Front Bench Club
    Annual membership: £5,000
    Chairman: The Hon Nicholas Soames MP
    For those with a deep interest in politics and current affairs who want to make a serious contribution to our Party. Members have the opportunity to meet and debate with MPs at a series of political lunches and receptions held throughout the year. Members will also be invited to all Team 2000 club events and other social events.

    .
    The Renaissance Forum
    Annual membership: £10,000 Chairman: James Stewart
    For our closest supporters to enjoy dinners and political debate with eminent speakers from the world of business and politics. Members are invited to all Team 2000 events.

    .
    Treasurers’ Group
    Annual membership: £25,000
    The Treasurers’ Group is aimed at substantial financial supporters with a keen interest in politics. Members are invited to join senior figures from the Conservative Party at dinners, lunches, drinks receptions, election result events and important campaign launches.
    .
    The Leader’s Group
    Annual membership: £50,000 Chairman: Howard Leigh
    The Leader’s Group is the premier supporter Group of the Conservative Party. Members are invited to join David Cameron and other senior figures from the Conservative Party at dinners, post-PMQ lunches, drinks receptions, election result events and important campaign launches.’
    .
    http://www.conservatives.com/Donate/Donor_Clubs.aspx

  76. You might like to pay special attention to the last three paragraphs and comments below the article.
    http://www.printweek.com/news/1123354/Unite-urges-MMP-investors-raise-dispute/?DCMP=ILC-SEARCH

  77. Vronsky at 11.50 – Yes it all does seem a little bit Monty Python – we go round like farts in a colander don’t we.

    I try and resist considering the “darkly attractive” alternatives (and they are attractive) because not to would be to drop to the level of those whose activities and attitudes I despise.

    As Komodo says you can find out stuff here not always published in the mainstream press, and for me there are some knowledgeable and thoughtful contributors whose insights are worth reading.

    And who knows – perhaps there are those out there who may have practical and acceptable answers to “What can we do?” Without wishing to be condemned as a God botherer (Kom) I would recommend the parable of the mustard seed.

  78. Abdul Jarndyce

    25 Mar, 2012 - 6:03 pm

    The secret report that could have cleared the ‘Lockerbie bomber’:
    http://bit.ly/GS7M5L

  79. SCCRC Statement of Reasons

    “http://www.heraldscotland.com/fwd.cgi?l=http%3A%2F%2Flogin.heraldscotland.com%2FSCCRC-Statement-of-Reasons-red.pdf”

  80. Abdul Jarndyce

    25 Mar, 2012 - 6:35 pm

    Reported 40,000 on pro-Palestine march in Morocco:
    http://trib.in/GQ4hz5

  81. Tom that link did not seem to work. I have it as this
    http://login.heraldscotland.com/SCCRC-Statement-of-Reasons-red.pdf
    .
    10.55 Mb

  82. The publication by The Sunday Herald of the SCCRC report on Megrahi may be significant. Clearly the Scottish Crown Office thinks so, as they have been desperately leaking their own agenda to the right wing press. But I say ‘may be significant’ because already the signs are that the Scottish legal establishment intends to just deny, deny, deny and ride the thing out. Salmond has been declaring his belief that the release of the report is a good thing, an expression that might have been a tad more convincing if he had said so before the Sunday Herald printed the stuff anyway.
    .
    Salmond was anxious to point out that most of Megrahi’s claims of grounds for appeal were dismissed, ignoring that legally having just one validates the appeal. The SCCRC conceded Megrahi six justifications for appeal, not one.
    .
    I’m always (as you know) of the view that things are better in Scotland and we don’t roll over for the bastards as easily as you feckless lot dahn sarf, but the SNP’s repetitive fumbling of this issue is depressing. What have the CIA got on Salmond that he can’t do the obviously decent thing? And what next?
    .
    http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/salmond-thinks-again.html

  83. boniface goncourt

    25 Mar, 2012 - 7:38 pm

    @Guano

    “But when disaster strikes as on this occasion we believe in Allah’s control over our destinies. Indeed we belong to God and to Him is our return.”

    So if ‘allah’ gets bored being cooped up in the right hemisphere of
    your brain, he does a coach crash and kills a whole bunch of people, for kicks? It’s just as well he and his bruv ‘yahweh’ are
    imaginary products of psychopathic vanity. If those twunts really existed, things would be even worse than they are!

    BTW Guano you seem to be a legal UK resident. When settling in a secular, modern society, why not take advantage of it, and in courtesy to your hosts, cleanse yourself of backward superstition?

  84. Vronsky – Did you hear that St Theresa of May is threatening border controls and checks if Scotland becomes independent?!
    .
    Scottish independence: ‘Border checks’ warning from home secretary
    Home Secretary Theresa May says border checks are a possibility
    .
    Scotland’s Future
    STUC backs SNP referendum terms
    Watchdog makes voting age warning
    Scots ‘Yes’ campaign set for May
    UK’s future addressed in speeches
    .
    An independent Scotland could face the prospect of checks at its border with England, Home Secretary Theresa May has ++warned++.
    .
    It comes after a conference speech when Ms May claimed independence could lead to mass immigration problems.
    .
    Afterwards, the home secretary said she envisaged “some sort of border check” if Scotland joined the European Schengen common travel area.
    .
    The SNP dismissed Ms May’s comments as “scaremongering nonsense”.
    .
    Ms May called for clarity on the issue as part of the independence debate.
    .
    The Scottish government has said it wants to hold the referendum on independence in autumn 2014.
    .
    At the Scottish Conservative party conference in Troon on Saturday, the home secretary highlighted the danger of joining Europe’s Schengen area, which allows free movement of people within a number of EU countries.

    .
    “An independent Scotland will be part of the common travel area which already exists within and between the UK and Ireland” Pete Wishart
    SNP Home Office Affairs spokesman

    She said: “Joining Europe’s borderless Schengen area could open Scotland’s border up to mass immigration.”
    /…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-17505302

  85. Was watching David Davis (don’t dislike him though i generally disagree with him) on Question Time on Thursday explaining that the problem was that in some parts of the country public sector workers got 18 to 20% more pay than their equivalents in the private sector. The fact that many bank executives are getting hundreds of times the average wage, some of them funding it from bail-outs from taxpayers on average or low wages, doesn’t bother the Conservatives, but anyone in the public sector being paid slightly more than someone in the private sector, that is unfair and must be changed as far as they’re concerned.

    The only good thing about this budget is that it will have lost the Conservative party a lot of votes. That won’t make up for all the people made to suffer between now and the next election though – and Cameron seems ot be hoping for another Falklands War rather than negotiating resource sharing on any oil and gas revenues from the Falklands’ waters with the Argentinians (i’m sure Kirchner is using the Falklands as a distraction from Argentine economic problems and unemployment too, just as with Thatcher and the Argentine junta in 1982 – i doubt an elected Argentinian government will be as reckless as the military regime were though – they’ll stick to economic sanctions rather than war)

  86. Boniface Goncourt
    Your kind of anti-religious tripe is the best justification for the existence of Islamist fundamentalist politics.
    Without your type of nihilistic ignorance they would find it hard to gain a foothold among the stressed Muslim youth.
    Here’s some of their unholy activities in Syria, in alliance with USUKIS governments.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29946
    .
    Have you ever thought that your toxic atheism was benefiting these mad mullahs, whom our government supports and whom we ordinary Muslims despise?
    I am clear in my own mind that as a former Christian Englishman I am merely continuing in the religious tradition of this country by joining Islam, while the rest of English society has swung off the road down the folly of atheism.
    I presume you use ‘hosts’ about the UK in the same sense as a naturalist would about fleas. I live here, and I benefit from the umbrella of safety that the UK provides for its own citizens, but I disassociate myself from 99% of what my government, rabid Tories or New Liebour variety, tries to do in domestic or foreign policy.
    So, naturalists observe, a flea
    Has smaller fleas that on him prey;
    And these have smaller still to bite ‘em;
    And so proceed ad infinitum.
    Jonathan Swift: Poetry, a Rhapsody.]
    I don’t know why you want to bite me.
    Assalamu ‘alaykum

  87. Why the story of Megrahi surfaces now?
    ,
    Gaddafi dead and gone,
    Libya occupied and under new management,
    Panam passengers’ next of kin paid off, and the lawyers fees charged,
    Megrahi jailed and pound of flesh extracted for the benefit of the dog and pony revenge show,
    ,
    ,
    Why would this story need to remain alive?
    What is the reason for keeping the story current?
    ,
    ,
    Those who have followed the story of the Megrahi and his conviction for years have known about the Kangaroo court that sent him down based on contrived “evidence”. The witnesses testifying were either; paid off, coerced, etc.
    ,
    This story is doing the rounds and the relevant dossier getting released from a “known” shop front, What are these bastards up to now? Anyone any ideas?

  88. “Anyone any ideas?”
    .
    Megrahi served the purpose of demonising Libya/Gaddafi, mission accomplished, now lets find him innocent so we can blame some other nation for the Pan Am 103 crash, so who`s left to point the finger at, to demonise in the publics minds, so we can attack them, let me see…who do we want to invade next, “Anyone any ideas?”.

  89. “Scottish independence: ‘Border checks’ warning from home secretary”
    .
    Mary, its far worse then that
    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/political-news/english-would-bomb-our-airports.17005697
    .
    What are they going to come up with next ?…If the Martians send an invading army to Scotland and the Martian tripods start to singe sporrans with their death rays don`t expect England to help out.

  90. boniface goncourt

    25 Mar, 2012 - 11:27 pm

    LESSON 1

    GODBANGER: The universe was created by a beardy guy who got killed then came back to life and rode up into the clouds on a donkey! Give me your money.

    ME: I don’t believe you.

    GODBANGER: You speak anti-religious tripe!

    LESSON 2

    GODBANGER: I got smack, blow, toot, meth, crack, crank, E, meowmeow! Give me your money.

    ME: Nah, that stuff is bad for you.

    GODBANGER: You speak toxic atheism!

  91. boniface goncourt

    26 Mar, 2012 - 2:21 am

    “An elderly woman who suffered a fall was left lying on the floor at a care home for up to ten minutes because a senior nurse was praying, an inquest heard. Abdul Bhutto, an agency nurse, told junior staff they would have to wait until he finished before
    he would attend to 87-year-old Dorothy Griffiths, who died nine days later. Mrs Griffiths, who suffered from Alzheimer’s, was left on the floor while the Muslim nurse continued to pray on his mat. Eventually he arrived and examined the pensioner before telling carers to put her back to bed. She was later found unresponsive and was taken to hospital. Mrs Griffiths had cut her head and gashed her hip when she fell from her bed during the night and was found on the floor when staff rushed to her room after hearing a loud bang. A carer went to the care home’s office for help to lift her but Mr Bhutto, who was in charge, said they would have to wait until he had finished his prayers.”

    Those moderate muslims! Don’t you just love them?

  92. A Pretentious Fool.

  93. @mary
    .
    Yes – it’s confusing. At one and the same time we are going to be suffocated by draconian new border controls, while simultaneously overrun by uncontrolled immigration.
    .
    I was once approached to stand as a councillor but found the idea unappealing until I discovered that as a councillor I could decide how taxi drivers should dress. Fortunately for the taxi drivers I was never elected. But I hope I get to choose the border guards’ uniforms.
    .
    http://www.zanzig.com/travel/rome-photos/rome002.htm

  94. What a waste of a donated heart to this ageing evil warmonger. See how many Americans are on the waiting list.
    .
    Dick Cheney Gets New Heart
    Former Vice President Recovering After Undergoing Surgery http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/03/24-3

  95. Duncan:
    “…the problem was that in some parts of the country public sector workers got 18 to 20% more pay than their equivalents in the private sector. The fact that many bank executives are getting hundreds of times the average wage, some of them funding it from bail-outs from taxpayers on average or low wages, doesn’t bother the Conservatives, but anyone in the public sector being paid slightly more than someone in the private sector, that is unfair and must be changed as far as they’re concerned.”
    .
    You are forgetting that bankers and corporate directors generally are essential to the economy. In order to recruit the best we must pay top whack, otherwise the talent will go abroad, a pestilence will descend on the land, and we will all die.
    On the other hand, labour units must be hired at the minimum possible price in order to maximise profits for the directors and shareholders, and it is deeply unfair that the public sector should attempt to recruit the best labour units for itself by offering more money. The public sector should content itself with cheap, unqualified and useless labour units because THE MARKETS (praise and glory) are not (yet) allowed to make a profit out of it. Anyway, most of these labour units live north of Watford and are not really human at all.
    .
    Rose: the mustard seed analogy is apt. But as a non-godbotherer I prefer poppy seed…smaller, more prolific, and you sow it in winter…

  96. Mary, I had to wretch when I heard it on the radio, how pathetic of news editors to even cover it.

    Then there is the other thought of hope, that this charitable heart has come from a wo/man which is kind and considerate, with compassion and understanding, a heart that can overule his festering brain.
    His first action will be to resign from the Carlyle trust and sell all his shares in arms companies, donating the proceeds to amnesty international and the international red cross…

    Must have been the tea this morning…..

  97. Mary: Think you’ll find Grade, Kestenbaum and Palmer have already been elevated – the report is an old one.
    .
    Kestenbaum is interesting. Yet another maker of money out of money, rich as Croesus, co-founded the rather nebulous Portland Trust (investment in Palestinian projects, nominally) with Sir Ronald Cohen (former enormous Labour donor, now advising Scameron on The Big Society Big Bank for Big Big Britain – qv) and also worked for Cohen’s Apax (large stake in the Guardian-seems to be influencing editorial policy), assistant to Chief Rabbi Sachs, and worthily outspoken critic of Israel’s Palestine policy-he favours a two-state solution. May be an Israel-firster, but is not an Israel-first-no-matter-whatter, as far as I can see. Something of a curate’s egg, Kestenbaum.

  98. So it was Komodo. January 2011. Wonder then why it was still at the top of one of their topics. Interesting about Kestenbaum. From his maiden speech, after his introduction by Lords Sainsbury and Puttnam, one learns he was brought up in Japan and the US following the diaspora of German Jews. He is now CEO of Lord Rothschild’s family financial interests! Enough said. This speech and two other comments are his only contribution to debate. His voting record follows the Conservative party line on the Health and Social Care Bill, Welfare Reform, Education, Armed Forces, Terrorism Prevention, etc etc.
    .
    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?id=2011-03-31a.1346.4&s=speaker%3A25061#g1352.0
    .

    This is not old. Jenny Tonge on March 22 about the support she has received since that puff of hot air Clegg booted her out.
    .
    {http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/65481/baroness-tonge-i-got-great-support-over-my-israel-line}
    .
    Quite a fair report from Dysch I thought.

  99. Oops. Red face here. He is a LABOUR peer and votes accordingly.
    http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?id=uk.org.publicwhip/member/101113&showall=yes#divisions
    In my defenceI always find that page rather confusing.
    .
    He came from the US to the UK as a child in 1964. Now aged 53.

  100. Boniface Goncourt, the blog software has sent one of your comments (2012/03/25 at 10:12 pm) to the moderation queue, where it awaits approval or rejection. Since it consists entirely of abuse of another contributor and contains no evidence nor political argument, I don’t feel like approving it. Maybe someone else will.

  101. boniface goncourt,
    Cease and desist from filling the board with sectarian bullshit. Your fundamentalist militant atheism is not anymore attractive than a Jehovah Witness banging on to convert us all.
    ,
    I raise your contention about the elderly woman, an add the clip that if you look for on the you tube and find it, about the young female patient in the accident and emergencies department of the hospital dies post suffering a fit, with the hospital staff; Security, Nurses, Duty doctor, patients, etc. all literally walking past her dead corpse.
    ,
    To attribute irresponsible discharge of duty of care to some religion or other is the thin of the wedge designed to rubbish an underclass even further. Your equal opportunity racism is getting a bit wearing these days, so cool it.

  102. William Hague may be forced to strip Asma al-Assad of her British citizenship as she prepares to visit Britain and speak to a number of anti-war and peace movements. I hope she will be allowed into the UK where I believe she will expose the Zionist plan, supported by the West, to topple her husband in a Libyan style massacre by traitors, terrorists and deserters armed by Israel and America and trained in many cases by ex SAS security personnel.
    .
    http://rt.com/news/syrian-assad-wife-asma-363/

  103. Proper journalism here committed to the humane and against barbarity. The ‘Sunni’ oppression is not the truth. I am told by someone who knows nhow there was no divide between Sunni and Shia in Iraq – that is BEFORE the savages arrived.
    .
    Bahrain Medics Show Trial: This Is Not Syria, Therefore No Western Outcry

    by Finian Cunningham
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29903

  104. MI5 recalls all of its agents. Guess Edinburgh is going to be very quiet, then.
    .
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mi5-puts-all-3800-agents-on-olympic-watch-7584968.html
    .
    When the Olympic bomb duly goes off and the BBC announces within minutes that the outrage ‘carries all the hallmarks of Al Qaeda’ I thought it might be useful to have a little checklist of the hallmarks of a false flag operation carried out against you by your own security services. It’s not my fault that the same list seems also to be the hallmarks of Al Qaeda.
    .
    (1) Multiple causluaties, not a single carefully targetted hit;
    (2) All the casualties are ordinary people, no personages of importance and certainly no politicians; and
    (3) The security services had no foreknowledge of the plot, but quickly arrest any surviving perpetrators and their associates. Perfect ignorance is followed by perfect knowledge in less than 24 hours.

  105. Mark – While some may dispute the assertion that Assad is an innocent victim of (though occasional collaborator with) Western interests, I hope everyone will dispute the proposition that a British citizen can be stripped of her rights – not least of free speech and assembly – because she married the wrong guy.
    .
    Hague is a nasty little blowhard who has never had a real job, and is very keen on other people fighting and dying for his greater promotion. But I would not deny even him his citizenship, tolerant reptile that I am.

  106. Cameron has rowed back (he caves in to pressure easily) and has given details of ten
    dinner guests whom he has known personally for many years. Lord Gold will carry out an investigation. Hilarious stuff.
    .

  107. The said Lord Gold, Conservative Party sleazebuster extraordinaire.
    .
    http://davidgoldassociates.com/biography

    .
    Also from the Southend Echo. What does he do for the US Dept of Justice??
    .
    “It was a delightful day when I became a lord and there is much I want to do.
    .
    “I was approached to become a working peer following my membership of David Cameron’s scrutiny committee on the expenses in 2009 and my later role as chairman of the Conservative Party’s disciplinary committee.”
    .

    Born in a Westcliff nursing home, Lord Gold was a student at Westcliff High School for Boys before studying at the London School of Economics. Among his community roles, Lord Gold was president of the Southend and Westcliff Hebrew Congregation for nine years and can be regularly seen cycling along the seafront at the weekends.
    .
    He will be splitting his time between working as a peer as well as working within the US Department of Justice advising on complex disputes. He plans to set up his own consultancy firm.
    .
    {http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8847805.Lawyer_David_Gold_joins_the_House_of_Lords/}

  108. A few names so far for Komodo to digest.
    .
    Documents confirm PM dined with Mike & Jenny Farmer, Ian & Christine Taylor, Henry & Dorothy Angest on Nov 2nd 2011.
    Documents confirm PM dined with Michael Spencer and his wife on 27th Feb 2012 and Andrew Feldman & David Rowland on 28th Feb 2012.
    .
    The rabbit-like Lord Levy has just been on Sky waving his arms around, protesting that Bliar never did anything like this. Also that the Cameron guests were not entertained in the Camerons’ flat but in one of the dining rooms belonging to the state.

  109. Re Gold and the DoJ:
    Herbert Smith litigator Gold completed a five-year term as senior partner in May. Prior to that he headed the firm’s litigation practice. As head of the firm Gold oversaw its international expansion in emerging markets.

    In August, he was revealed as the independent corporate monitor at BAE Systems. The appointment, made by the US Department of Justice (DoJ) in consultation with the defence and aerospace company, came after a settlement with the DoJ, drawn up in the aftermath of an investigation into contract payments (31 August).
    .
    Peerage presumably for getting BAE off the hook…or maybe he paid the admission fee?

  110. Looks like a perfectly innocent list of accidentally rich people who would never contemplate paying for political influence to me, Mary. Like Henry Angest (see your post) for instance:
    .
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/11/conservative-donor-paymaster-activists
    .
    Poor David. People are being so unfair to him. Nothing like that goes on in the Conservatives, and the Party treasurer who explicitly said it did, on film, has obviously gone mad.

  111. Vronsky,
    .
    MI5′s counter-proliferation unit are calibrating their equipment.
    .
    Their work is supported by government agencies although I believe their 1% total resource is not enough; the katsas have too much freedom in Britain.

  112. Mary, somebody commented on Cheney’s heart transplant “I hope he’s got a left-leaning Liberal heart”. Somebody else commented: “This is the first heart he’s had”.
    .
    Three weeks ago they patched my heart up with bits and pieces from my own body. Just think if I needed a transplant they might have given me Cheney’s heart. Makes you want to become a Jehovah’s Witness.
    .
    Of course, a selfish murderer like Cheyney is hardly likely to donate his heart, unless it’s the diseased one. In one of my poems Reagan holds a donor card for haemorrhoids. You gotta laugh.

  113. so is Murdoch sending a warning across the Cameron breakfast bar?
    .
    Its not as if this is a shock or unknown to anyone ..

  114. Komodo,
    …. Party treasurer who explicitly said it did, on film, has obviously gone mad.
    ,
    Indubitably, indubitably dear boy. In fact the poor chap was discussing football, if you care to listen to the undercover tape he is talking about premier league!
    ,
    It is high time people stopped going around and spreading apathy (lord Willie Whitelaw) with this sort of nonsense. Clearly, our leaders, dear, dear, esteemed, fantastic, not kim il jong, not at all, not at all, honest Dave and honester what is that liberal chap’s name? the deputy something.
    ,
    These guys are shitting me, democracy, for whom is the point.
    ,
    ,
    Meanwhile back at the ranch,
    ,
    ,
    UK in another visa-ban game with Iran
    ,

    British Home Office says London’s spy agency MI5 could bar foreign nationals, including those from Iran and Syria, whom London accuses of human rights abuses, from entering Britain for the 2012 Olympics.

    ,
    .
    While Asma Assad is getting her citizenship withdrawn, Sarko style. These pip squeak tossers seem to have a dick swinging contest going on between them, who can outdo the other in the field of repression, coercion, and disregarding the laws of the land, that is natural, moral, and legislative laws.

  115. Lord (ne David) Gold: A safe pair of hands for an embarrassing enquiry:
    http://fcpaprofessor.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/is-baes-monitor-independent.html
    Oh, yes.

  116. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/iainmartin1/100146844/francis-maude-involved-in-road-traffic-accident-on-the-today-programme/
    .
    You have got to feel sorry for this patsy Francis Maude. Cameron has sent him out again to make a statement to the HoC. He is going red in the face with exertion as he tries to speak above the hubbub about transparency and his government’s good record.
    .
    Milipede Jnr is loving it.
    .
    I live about an hour’s journey from Westminster. I can smell the stench from here.

  117. John. I am so sorry to hear that you have had an operation. I do hope that you are fully recovered.
    .
    You well remember the great injustice in the case of Dr Kelly. An inquest was never held for him.
    .
    Now it seems that Mark Duggan will not be given an inquest. This is a cover up by the Metropolitan Police and the IPCC. Where is British justice? There is now no such thing.
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17514972
    .
    London riots: Mark Duggan inquest ‘may not be held’
    Mark Duggan was shot by police last August in Tottenham
    .
    A pre-inquest hearing into the death of Mark Duggan has been told that there may not be an inquest at all.
    .
    Mr Duggan was shot by police on 4 August in Tottenham, north London, which was followed by days of rioting.
    .
    +++The Independent Police Complaints Commission said sensitive material relating to police decision-making may have to be withheld from the coroner+++.
    .
    It said its investigation had been delayed and its findings may not be available until early autumn.
    .
    That would be more than a year after the shooting.
    .
    /…

  118. Not such clever gamers now as the company goes into administration. Price Waterhouse Cooper must be so busy at the moment
    .
    http://www.gamegroup.plc.uk/gmg_plc/about/board/ I note the Chairman used to work for Ladbrokes.

    10,000 staff in total here and abroad
    1,300 stores, 609 of which are in the UK and Ireland.
    .
    Game Group employs 385 staff at its headquarters in Basingstoke in Hampshire, and about 5,100 in its stores in the UK and Ireland.
    .
    About another 5,000 staff are employed at Game’s other stores, which are located in France, Spain, Portugal, the Czech Republic, Scandinavia and Australia.

    .
    http://www.gamegroup.plc.uk/gmg_plc/about/board/

  119. Not such clever ‘gamers now are they as the company goes into administration? Price Waterhouse Cooper must be so busy at the moment
    .
    http://www.gamegroup.plc.uk/gmg_plc/about/board/ I note the Chairman used to work for Ladbrokes.
    .
    10,000 staff in total here and abroad
    1,300 stores, 609 of which are in the UK and Ireland.
    .
    Game Group employs 385 staff at its headquarters in Basingstoke in Hampshire, and about 5,100 in its stores in the UK and Ireland.
    .
    About another 5,000 staff are employed at Game’s other stores, which are located in France, Spain, Portugal, the Czech Republic, Scandinavia and Australia.

  120. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17512814 Who’s who. The list of donors. No snippets like Komodo’s. I wonder what their combined net worth is and how much they have benefited from Osborne’s higher rate tax reduction.

  121. One of Cameron’s dining donors was Michael Hintze who funded Atlantic bridge, and thus Werrity!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17512814

  122. Thanks for the recovery wishes, Mary. It’s a twelve week schedule but I’m doing all right after three. I’ve walked about 1 mile and a half today and try to do a similar distance every day, though some days are better than others, and I feel I can manage more on some occasions. Can’t wait to get back on my bike.
    .
    Thanks too for the Mark Duggan link. I’ve posted it on the David Kelly and related matters of International Importance page, which Thames Valley Police appear to have infiltrated. Some people even send TVP messages of things they ought to watch on this closed Facebook site.
    .
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113306/Police-hacked-website-David-Kelly-campaign-group-claim-activists.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

  123. boniface goncourt

    26 Mar, 2012 - 5:10 pm

    @Clark

    #Boniface Goncourt, the blog software has sent one of your comments (2012/03/25 at 10:12 pm) to the moderation queue, where it awaits approval or rejection. Since it consists entirely of abuse of another contributor and contains no evidence nor political argument, I don’t feel like approving it..#

    Fair enough Clark. It’s just that getting called ‘tripe’ and ‘toxic’ may cause a heated reaction. I don’t bring up the subject of religion, they do.

    @Passerby

    You may think it’s ok for a nurse to leave a patient
    lying on the floor while he mumbles to ‘allah’, I don’t.
    Do muslims enjoy you calling them an underclass? I notice you sneer
    at jehovah’s witnesses, but at least they are polite, and do not call for fatwas, stonings, floggings and amputations for the kuffars.

  124. “The rabbit-like Lord Levy has just been on Sky waving his arms around, protesting that Bliar never did anything like this.”
    .
    What about all those…play tennis with Blair meetings that Lord Levy set up, only the very rich were invited to attend.

  125. John I suppose that whilst they were messing about on that Facebook site, their attention was diverted from finding the culprits in that dreadful vice ring involving girls in care, some as young as 11. I think the case was long standing.
    .
    Guest. I know. He was saying much the same on Radio 4 Today this morning. Cash for honours wasn’t it called and Yates who let them all off the hook is now in Bahrain helping to oppress the people.

  126. Have we, the mug taxpayers and bailers out, been consulted on this? No. Obviously Cameron was busy on this and sent Maude to the Commons to make the Cruddas statement. Cruddas is now the equivalent of yesterday’s fish and chip wrapping of course.
    .
    Breaking news LATEST:The government is in advanced negotiations to sell up to a third of its stake in Royal Bank of Scotland to Abu Dhabi, the BBC learns

  127. Mary, the dreadful thing about it is the continued cover-up. Hutton’s 70 year prohibition or Dr Kelly documents and photographs, cover-up of what really happened in the Hilda Murrell murder, de Menenez and now Mark Duggan. No doubt the police have a difficult job but there is no independent scrutiny and while the police continue to investigate themselves there can be no justice for those who want closure.

  128. @clark
    .
    With respect, Clark, I don’t think you should take this line with Boniface. I happen to agree with him on a number of points but seldom express myself as pungently (unless I’ve had a wee bit too much wine). There are a number of Muslim posters here, and I recognise that that is a very important part of the unique value and flavour of the site. However no opinion should be ruled as sacred beyond challenge, including vigorous challenge. I suspect that I may not be the only reader here who is appalled by the naivete of some of the religious utterances, but who is (ordinarily) too polite (cowardly?) to say so. Atheists have feelings too, you know. We wouldn’t want too many Bonifaces, but none at all would also be the wrong number.

  129. Israel knows no law.
    .
    26 March 2012
    Israel ends contact with UN Human Rights Council
    The Palestinians have demanded an end to Israeli settlement building as a prerequisite for peace talks
    .
    Israel has cut working relations with the UN Human Rights Council, officials say, after it decided to investigate Jewish settlements in the West Bank.
    .
    +++The foreign ministry has reportedly told its envoy in Geneva not to co-operate with the council or with UN Human Rights Commissioner Navi Pillay+++.
    .
    +++It will also prevent a UN team entering Israel to assess the effects of settlements on Palestinian rights+++.
    .
    Last week, Israel said the decision to establish the probe was “surrealistic”.
    .
    Negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians on a two-state solution stalled in late 2010 after a dispute over settlement construction.
    ./..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17510668
    About 500,000 Jews live in more than 100 settlements built since Israel’s 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The settlements are considered illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this

  130. @Vronsky 26 Mar, 2012 – 6:55 am

    Are those pants pneumatic? Looking for the bicycle pump.

  131. More snippet: please compare with rich list here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CM2egqgB&key=0AtAQVk3Qj4FYdEJKVTg3aTZteV9pcnFZbXBvN3lRcUE&hl=en&authkey=CM2egqgB#gid=0

    …..Key allies of Mr Cameron appointed (to the Lords – K) on Friday include Alistair Cooke, the Conservative party historian who gave Mr Cameron his first job; party treasurer and donor Stanley Fink (£2M = K) ; and Andrew Feldman, a friend of Mr Cameron from university who is now Tory co-chairman, dodgy Elvis impersonator – K and fundraiser.

    Despite the additions to Tory ranks, Labour remains the biggest single party in the Lords, with 244 members, or 30 per cent of the house. But the new additions will see the coalition benches swell to 316 members, or 39 per cent. This takes membership of the Lords to 794, at a time when Lord Strathclyde, leader of the house, is examining ways to cut numbers.

    The new intake could also cost the taxpayer up to £2.5m a year, since each peer can claim up to £300 for every day they attend, amounting to a maximum £43,500 annually if the house sits for 145 days.

    Michael Grade, the former executive chairman of ITV, Fiona Shackleton, the lawyer who represented the Prince of Wales in his divorce, and the Oscar-winning screenwriter Julian Fellowes are also among 27 new Conservative peers.

    George Magan, (£1.5M – K) the financier, is another big City name on the roster, as is Sir Michael Bishop,(£705K = K) former BMI chairman, and Robert Edmiston (£3.25M – K), head of the IM Group. Also raised to the peerage is Patience Wheatcroft, who will step down as editor-in-chief of the Wall Street Journal Europe.
    .
    Donations over £1M to nearest £50K – K
    .
    (FT, Nov 19th, 2010 (cached))

  132. Edniston (who is an evangelical Christian), reborn in the Love of Jesus (Hallelujah! Glory!), has no doubt repented fully of the former errors which interested Inspector Knacker -
    .
    Those becoming Conservative peers include Bob Edmiston, a multi-millionaire car salesman, who gave £2m to the party before the 2005 election.
    .
    Mr Edmiston was nominated for a peerage in 2005 but was blocked by the Lords appointment commission. He was subsequently questioned by police, under caution, during their investigation into the “cash for honours” allegations.

    .
    (BBC News Nov 19th, 2010)
    .
    Wonder if more cash changed hands?

  133. Boniface Goncourt
    ,
    call for fatwas, stonings, floggings and amputations for the kuffars.
    ,
    Whoooow, foreign words, and shit, must be bad by default.
    ,
    You are a right caricature, aren’t you?
    ,

  134. boniface goncourt

    26 Mar, 2012 - 9:27 pm

    @Vronsky

    Thanks for that Vronsky. Pungent, eh. And me teetotal. I’m glad Clark is feeling better after the bit of trouble he had. Religion is vanity, ‘god’ merely a self-projection, and madness is never
    far away. I don’t buy the ‘hurt feelings’ ploy, or the the rubbish about ‘moderates’. Where were the ‘moderate Jews’ demonstrating when Rachel Corrie was crushed to death by an Israeli tank? How many Jewish Chronicle subscriptions were cancelled after the 2008 Jewish onslaught on Gaza? Did 100,000 ‘moderate muslims’ demonstrate about these events? -

    ## 3 February 2011 – Four Islamic clerics were arrested this week for ordering Mosammet Hena, 14, to receive 100 lashes in a fatwa or religious edict at a village in the south-western Shariatpur district. It has now been reported that the teenage girl was raped by her married cousin and then accused of having an affair with him. The girl collapsed after she was lashed in public with a bamboo cane around 70 times on Monday, police chief Shahidur Rahman said. She was taken to hospital, but died hours later. ##

    ##2 November 2008 – An Islamist rebel administration in Somalia had a 13-year-old girl stoned to death for adultery after the child’s father reported that three men had raped her. Amnesty International said the al-Shabab militia, which controls the southern port city of Kismayo, arranged for a group of 50 men to stone Aisha Ibrahim
    Duhulow in front of a crowd of about 1,000 spectators. A lorryload of stones was brought to the stadium for the killing. Amnesty said that Duhulow struggled with her captors and had to be forcibly carried into the stadium. “At one point during the stoning,
    nurses were instructed to check whether Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow was still alive when buried in the ground. They removed her from the
    ground, declared that she was, and she was replaced in the hole where she had been buried for the stoning to continue. ##

    Did moderate muslim Yusuf Islam, aka pop dronester Cat Stevens, trim his weard beard in protest? Thought not.

    Vronsky I feel it necessary to repeat your post above. Spot on.

    ## MI5 recalls all of its agents. Guess Edinburgh is going to be very quiet, then.
    .
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mi5-puts-all-3800-agents-on-olympic-watch-7584968.html
    .
    When the Olympic bomb duly goes off and the BBC announces within minutes that the outrage ‘carries all the hallmarks of Al Qaeda’ I thought it might be useful to have a little checklist of the hallmarks of a false flag operation carried out against you by your own security services. It’s not my fault that the same list seems also to be the hallmarks of Al Qaeda.
    .
    (1) Multiple causluaties, not a single carefully targetted hit;
    (2) All the casualties are ordinary people, no personages of importance and certainly no politicians; and
    (3) The security services had no foreknowledge of the plot, but quickly arrest any surviving perpetrators and their associates. Perfect ignorance is followed by perfect knowledge in less than 24 hours. ##

    Think how many things that last sentence applies to! JFK, 9-11, crucifixion of JC, anything in the ‘torah’…

  135. Vronsky, I consider Boniface Goncourt’s abusive anti-religious language (which he’s been banging on with for days) as similar to Canspeccy’s repeated ranting about immigration; repetitive, needlessly inflammatory and likely to lead off-topic.
    .
    Guano posted a comment admitting an error of judgment, with a respectful note in religious language about our shared mortality. Nothing at all that could have provoked Goncourt’s response. And I’ve not deleted anything, I just don’t feel like approving it. Why should I help him try to start fights?

  136. Now DSK is up on charges of engaging in involvement in a prostitution ring.
    26 March 2012
    .
    Dominique Strauss-Kahn charged in vice ring case
    Mr Strauss-Kahn’s questioning in Lille on Monday came as a surprise
    Former International Monetary Fund boss Dominique Strauss-Kahn has been charged in France over alleged involvement in a prostitution ring.
    .
    Mr Strauss-Kahn was placed under formal investigation by magistrates in Lille.
    .
    He has admitted attending parties where the authorities believe prostitutes were provided by a gang, but denies knowing that they were prostitutes.
    .
    Last May, he resigned from the IMF after being accused of attempting to rape a hotel maid in New York.
    .
    The charges were later dropped.
    ~~~~
    There is such a contrast between these rich people we keep reading about and their self obsessed lives and the cheery workers on the Tube who I have been watching in the documentary series on BBC2. I am impressed at the pride they have in their jobs and their good humour. They have a fraction of the wealth of the likes of the No 10 dinner donors or DSK yet go to work in dirty and sometimes hazardous conditions to keep the system running. They are the happier.

  137. As every account holder with RBS knows (having been repeatedly told by RBS command), all their English/Welsh high street business is to be sold to Santander. (The MSM know only that negotiations are still in progress, and the outcome is undecided). Sooo…in order to ringfence the commercial bank from the speculative side ( thanks, Dubai) the commercial bit has to be appended to another extraterritorial entity which has not separated its commercial and hedge fund business? Someone tell me I’m wrong. Please.

  138. boniface goncourt

    26 Mar, 2012 - 10:32 pm

    Yes yes Clark but you are playing the hurt feelings card again.
    ‘Abusive anti-religious language’? Many of us find religious language in itself abusive. the godbangers are too obtuse to see that.

  139. YES WE CAN:
    Murder – whenever – whoever – wherever
    NOBODY CAN STOP US!
    .
    While Israel agrees not to strike Iran’s nuclear facilities until after the US Presidential elections, this in exchange for more powerful America bunker-busters and long range refueling planes, the United States increases it’s special forces in Uganda.
    .
    In another humanitarian violation intervention American plans for Africa are part of a global design in which 60,000 special forces, including death squads, already operate in 120 countries.
    .
    The threat to the West is not of course Islamic terrorism, it is China. We remember Libya was an important source of oil for China, now gone. Support for the NTC gave France 35% of Libya’s gross national oil production with America and Britain jostling for another 40% or more.
    .
    So with Iraq and Libya secured and Iran pending, the scramble for more of Africa by the US continues with another divide and rule, the destabilisation formula of drones, death squads and destruction. While the Chinese build bridges, roads and dams, America and Britain smash their way to a continent’s crown jewels.
    .
    In the Obama world it seems what matters is not so much the colour of your skin as the power you serve and the millions you betray.

  140. Mark Golding – Children Of Iraq Association,
    UK threatens to confiscate Press TV property in London

    Ofcom has also threatened to wind up Press TV’s offices in London upon a seven-day delay in paying the installments. This comes despite Britain’s illegal financial sanctions against Iranian banks. The sanctions are not mandated by the UN and are against international law.
    ,
    Censorship, worse than the old soviets.

  141. No irony in hearing the Man of Straw speaking on Today this morning about the niceties of party funding and the sources of the money.
    .
    ’0732
    The former Labour cabinet minister Jack Straw has written to the Electoral Commission to ask that they investigate the allegations made in the Sunday Times tapes regarding donations from overseas. He explains why.’

    .

    See Jack Straw Plans More Criminal Treating
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2010/05/jack_straw_plan/

  142. {http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17514730}
    .
    At a stroke, 1,000 pages of planning law reduced to 50. Comes into effect immediately – that doesn’t sound very lawful. It seems to be a developers’ charter to cover the country in warehouse sheds, wind farms, supermarkets and estates of ticky tacky houses. There is a space of just a few ft between some of the houses built locally on an old MAFF site, which Cameron visited recently.
    .
    I agree with most of the sentiments expressed in these letters. Hands Off Our Land.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/hands-off-our-land/8747157/Hands-Off-Our-Land-Letters-to-the-Editor.html

  143. Had a good shout at the radio this morning on hearing weasel Straw talk about being in charge of refroming electoral lobbying.
    Jack Straws whole career is down to dodgy politics in his constituency, he and his dog Patel have been mongering consent for decades, hence no change at all, thats why we are in a dead end, because Labour and Cons. can’t be bothered to have it changed and end this troughing.

    Good to hear you’re back on your feet John Goss, get back on your two wheels, there might be elections round the corner;)
    Thanks for all the great links to the fundraising fiasco that are political parties.
    Not posting much, more fun to be had in the garden I’m afraid.

  144. I am wondering if militant atheist, Goncourt, is not a Zionist atheist? That tendency to single out exceptional behaviour by extremist Muslims, and attribute it to the moderate and rational majority (oh, yes, it is, Goncourt. Despite your efforts to alienate it) looks like propaganda to me.
    As a moderate atheist myself, and one who is pissed off with violent and arrogant extremists of every tartan – including militant atheists – I don’t think your frequent complaints ring true.
    Peace.

  145. “What you liberals don’t realise is that some of us find singing offensive in itself; these singers don’t have to actually do or say anything offensive to deserve my offense in return. They shouldn’t be singing in the first place.
    .
    “So I’m going to cherry-pick examples of singers doing bad things, and hold all singers responsible. I’ll ignore all examples of singers doing good things or just neutral things, because that bolsters my argument. It’s good to argue dishonestly like this, because singing comes from the right brain hemisphere, which proves that it leads to madness.
    .
    “And if anyone sings a single note here, I’ll be down on them like a ton of bricks, and it’ll be their own fault”.

  146. The connections are coming in thick and fast. While I expect the Guardian’s coverage to be somewhat muted as regards the Kalms/Apax connection, it’s doing fine in other areas of the lucresphere…
    .
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/mar/27/tory-donor-climate-sceptic-thinktank
    .
    I knew I didn’t like Hintze. Now I know why.

  147. More people Scameron has known for a very long time and may very well appear at his soirees…
    David Cameron was a member of a gang. As were Boris Johnson, Sebastian Gregg (Goldman Sachs) and Ewen Fergusson (Herbert Smith).
    .
    Yup, the Bullingdon Crew. Note the last two names for future reference. Herbert Smith is the law firm of which “Lord” Gold, conducting the “investigation” into Tory sleaze, was formerly senior litigation partner. Goldman Sachs is the money firm found everywhere. You have probably heard of Johnson.
    .
    http://esjaybe.blog.com/esjaybe.net/rich-men-dont-get-evicted/

  148. Abdul Jarndyce

    27 Mar, 2012 - 12:20 pm

    Revealed: Scameron’s Lord Levy:
    http://bit.ly/GUAU8V

  149. Singers have no history of violence, no tendency that I know of to be especially malicious or cruel, no particular inclination to claim that they alone are unassailably right about everything and (insert name of wholly imaginary supersinger) will punish you horribly if you disagree. When we describe someone as a bad singer we don’t usually mean that they have an inclination to genocide. Yes, I could probably think of some aspects of religion, or some religious people who are ok – but I’d be cherry-picking.

  150. Patriots.
    “The founding head of the newly- formed board of trustees for the Israeli Olympic Committee is London-based businessman Ynon Kreiz, who recently stepped down as chairman and chief executive of Big Brother production company Endemol. The board is separate from the Israeli Olympic Committee, but endorsed by it……The current board of trustees reads like a “Who’s Who” of British media and business moguls, Jewish and non-Jewish. They include the London-based former chairman of MTV International Bill Roedy, WPP’s chief executive Sir Martin Sorrell(In 1997, he was appointed an Ambassador for British Business by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and subsequently appointed to the Office’s Panel 2000 aimed at rebranding Britain abroad. B.F.o.M.*-K), , businessman David Meller (Con: F.o.I. -K), Goldman Sachs vice chair Michael Sherwood(F.o. Samantha Cameron – K), Daily Express owner and Norwood president Richard Desmond(epitome of strident Britishness and porn magnate – K), and the British chairman of Universal Music, Lucian Grainge.”
    .
    *http://www.bfmisrael.org.uk/index.php/22-bfm-news/59-68-module-positions
    .
    OK, riddle me this. Granted that Israel is a tiny little defenceless country, ringed by evil assassins, subject to daily hundreds of rockets from its ungrateful protectorate, shunned by the antisemiitic West, and populated by holocaust survivors, why are prominent Brits supporting its fucking Olympic team? Which will be competing with ours?

  151. 60p for a first class stamp from 30th April.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17522500

  152. That’s the way to compete with instant, virtually free emails…..raise the price.

  153. Developing;
    An Arab source has blown the lid off the murder and assassinations of at least one thousand Iraqi scientists and experts at the hands of the Isreali killers/hit men. The source maintains that a team of operatives with the strength of nine hundred personnel, post the invasion of Iraq had been dispatched by Mossad.
    ,
    This team under the directions of an HQ based at or around Kirkuk had infiltrated various Iraqi organizations, that in turn had facilitated the systematic culling of the Iraqi experts. Furthermore, the source point to the land grab that has been taking place in the Northern parts of Iraq, that include Irbil area too, during which, there has been a transference of huge tracts of lands at higher than market prices into Jewish ownership. It is speculated that there are intents to develop a Las Vegas style of city that is built around gambling and prostitution Nevada Style, that in turn can be a cover for further operations by Mossad in the triangle of Iran, Turkey, Syria.
    ,
    Komodo,
    So you see why there is no money in the pot for the athletes to come over here and compete. Those amounts of men, and equipment needed to kill all those pesky Arab scientists needs a great deal of funding, hence the poor athletes have to be maintained by syanim in UK, or they will not get to come and compete, and probably beat our own athletes who are not as good in pulling on the correct levers of power and wealth.

  154. Abdul Jarndyce

    27 Mar, 2012 - 1:43 pm

    Leaked document reveals full price list for access to UK PM:
    http://twitpic.com/91i7dj

  155. Care to supply a source for that, Passerby?

  156. lol at that, Abdul. Probably true, too.

  157. The wastepaper game on that page leads to a malware site operating a (charged for) scam, btw. Thank you, Malwarebytes. We didn’t go there.

  158. Abdul Jarndyce

    27 Mar, 2012 - 2:13 pm

    More on ‘Dave’s Lord Levy’:
    http://bit.ly/HcDNEP

  159. FAO all those British Jews and/or SamCam dinner donors who support Israel financially or in other ways.
    .
    8,000 Palestinian children arrested by Israel since 2000
    .
    http://electronicintifada.net/content/8000-west-bank-children-arrested-2000-says-new-report/11100

  160. I see our friend Caroline ‘Bogus Nanny’ Spelman is a director in this rollcall.
    .
    http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/the-conservative-party-foundation

  161. Considering the sums we are reading about, they don’t seem to have much cash in the bank or assets. Do all the ‘donations’ go to a tax haven?
    .

    http://companycheck.co.uk/company/05289086

  162. Komodo,
    The source is an Arabic language source, I am waiting for other news agencies/services to pick it up.
    ,
    However this may be of help for starters.
    See if this helps
    ,
    ,
    ,

    Abdul,
    Surely there are copyrights issues with Mickey Mouse ware, is Disney corp in on the act too?

  163. Apart from some ugly mug shots in this piece, you can discover how one of the ghastly crowd made a profit from the Libyan war by supplying oil to the rebels. Taylor/Vitol
    .
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120806/The-money-men-invited-help-shape-policy-Government.html

  164. Abdul Jarndyce

    27 Mar, 2012 - 2:45 pm

    London on war footing for corporate fun & Olympic games:
    http://ind.pn/H2BZzz

  165. In the upside news; Israeli diplomat rescued from Morocco: I was told to leave ASAP.
    ,
    Meaning the guy had to be extricated from Dodge before noon, and get the hell out of the nearly sprung Morocco.
    ,
    {http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4208268,00.html}
    ,
    Further down the page a photo of a token anti Isreali demonstration, consisting of only a few hundreds of thousands, explains the post haste departure of the zionists representative in the conference.

    Although the article stresses that there were no dangers inside the parliament building, the side door of which had to be used to get the zionist out of there, However Evidently soon as the Tunisian representative realizing there is a zionist in the building had stopped smiling, was the cue for some reason or other.

  166. It would be antisemitic to mention that the majority of these, the current directors of the Conservative Party Foundation:
    .
    Lord John Davan Sainsbury Of Preston Candover KG
    Mr Mark Joseph Cyril Bamford
    The Rt Hon Lord George Morgan Magan
    Ms Caroline Alice Spelman
    The Rt Hon Lord Andrew Simon Feldman
    Mr Robert Michael James Marquess Of Salisbury PC DG
    Mr David Charles Ord
    Lord Maurice Saatchi
    The Rt Hon Thomas Strathclyde RT HON
    Lord Stanley Fink
    Mr Michael Alan Spencer
    Mr Michael Alan Spencer
    (so good they named him twice?)
    .
    …are of a Jewish persuasion. So I won’t. And any conclusions you might draw from what I haven’t mentioned and wild horses wouldn’t make me mention, are wild conspiracy theories put about by obvious Nazis who are jealous of our leading citizens’ wealth which is solely the result of honest hard work and ethical business practices. Poor persecuted minority.

  167. Motorists are queueing here for petrol. Scared stiff that the liquid to which they are addicted will become unavailable. Not so worried about the shortage of water and rain. Swimming pools being filled and sprinklers working.

  168. Navigating away from the murky waters of Conservative funding…oh…there’s something wrong with the compass. Or I’ve travelled in time. Lest-we-forget-posting:
    .
    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-1642542/Cameron-donors-bet-on-collapse-of-bank.html
    .
    Last year (2008 – K) Mr Cameron apologised ‘unreservedly’ after The Mail on Sunday disclosed that he had been using his taxpayer-funded Commons office to stage lunches for the Leaders Group.
    .
    Looks like old habits die hard. Conservatism in a nutshell, really.
    .
    Can’t afford petrol anyway, Mary. But we’re going to need some more MidEast conflict to keep the prices up soon

  169. I cannot believe this is news to the Torygraph. We commented on it here some months ago, and it’s openly displayed on the Tory site. I very nearly can’t believe the Torygraph is printing it:
    .
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9166621/Cash-for-access-the-Tory-clubs-which-promise-a-date-with-David-Cameron.html
    .
    Are the knives being sharpened for Scameron? I think so. If the Barclays and Murdoch start promoting Osborne (or something even lower), I’ll know for sure.

  170. Last for a while, I promise. Sorry about this, Craig, but the more I look at the political funding scene, the more infuriating it seems. Hope you recover sufficiently from India to change the page!
    .
    http://www.harpmandoodle.com/AHC/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/horseshit3.jpg

  171. Abdul Jarndyce

    27 Mar, 2012 - 4:49 pm

    The power of positive thinking. For the purpose of mass murder. But she doesn’t tell us that. An obscenity in denim:

    http://t.co/W4MiZtKz

  172. This is why pressTV was set upon and taken off the air.
    ,
    On 21 March, Jacques Cheminade, an independent presidential candidate running in the French election, said, “a part of the fortune of the Queen of England comes from drug trafficking.”

  173. boniface goncourt

    27 Mar, 2012 - 5:54 pm

    @Komodo

    Moderate atheist? Is that like a moderate non-smoker?
    ‘Moderate’ muslim [or jew] just means ‘non-violent for now’.
    Someone who believes in the irrational [prophet, sacred book of gibberish, sky fairy, heaven, hell, genital mutilation, jihad, armageddon, silly taboos, etc], however dimly, is not rational. Where are the ‘moderate muslims’ demonstrating against little girls being flogged to death? There aren’t any, since it is prescribed in the sacred ravings of ‘allah’, and of course it is okay because the girls are moderately flogged to death. Same as the Chattanooga choo-choos moderately bombing Gaza. Zionist, moi? LOL.

    @Clark, best leave out the tortured analogies which don’t work.

  174. Previous Conservative sleaze of another kind and the man who kept the lid on it. How very loyal of him to protect our sensibilities and the revolting couple in question.
    .
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120855/Tory-kept-affair-John-Major-Edwina-Currie-secret-dies-74.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

  175. This new report on last August’s riots goes against what Craig thought of the rioters.
    .
    27 March 2012
    .
    Riot report reveals ’500,000 forgotten families’
    Panel chairman Darra Singh: “Where people feel there’s no consequences to their actions, they’ll go out and damage, loot, and wreak havoc”
    .
    A lack of support and opportunity for young people contributed to the outbreak of riots in England last summer, an independent report says.
    .
    The Riots, Communities and Victims Panel, set up last year, highlights “500,000 forgotten families”.
    .
    It also cited poor parenting, an inability to prevent reoffending, too much emphasis on materialism, and a lack of confidence in the police.
    .
    /…
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17525873

    I would say that conditions for these families are much worse now than they were seven months ago.

  176. @boniface
    .
    This might be best coming from me. I’ve been reading posts here for a long while and people here just want to talk – fairly honestly at times. That includes the muslims. Almost all the people here drive me screwy. Why the fuck won’t they propose anything? How can they be so angrily informed, and yet so inactive?
    .
    However this website is a wee window on the world and we should try to keep it open as long as possible. Like me you are horrified by the cruelty of the religious, because to them their barbarism is rational. US/UK foreign policy is likewise especially horrifying because we understand it is not madness, but an analagous aberrant rationality.
    .
    So can I say that I’ve heard your manifesto and I can easily support bits of it, but it’s time just to pull up a chair and talk. Please?
    .
    If I was an ordinary poster I’d have something to say like – look at this link it shows that so-and-so got money from so-and-so to do such-and-such and isn’t that awful! The Pope is a Catholic! Bears shit in the woods! Bad people are – uh – bad! Isn’t it awful!
    .
    ESTRAGON:
    I can’t go on like this.
    VLADIMIR:
    That’s what you think.
    ESTRAGON:
    If we parted? That might be better for us.
    VLADIMIR:
    We’ll hang ourselves tomorrow. (Pause.) Unless Godot comes.
    ESTRAGON:
    And if he comes?
    VLADIMIR:
    We’ll be saved.
    Vladimir takes off his hat (Lucky’s), peers inside it, feels about inside it, shakes it, knocks on the crown, puts it on again.
    ESTRAGON:
    Well? Shall we go?
    VLADIMIR:
    Pull on your trousers.
    ESTRAGON:
    What?
    VLADIMIR:
    Pull on your trousers.
    ESTRAGON:
    You want me to pull off my trousers?
    VLADIMIR:
    Pull ON your trousers.
    ESTRAGON:
    (realizing his trousers are down). True.
    He pulls up his trousers.
    VLADIMIR:
    Well? Shall we go?
    ESTRAGON:
    Yes, let’s go.
    They do not move.

  177. Vronsky How do you know what levels of activity we engage in? Some of us might be urban guerillas. Hope I don’t piss you off. :)

  178. Yes, Vronsky, we’re all totally pointless. Except you, of course.
    Goncourt, (who waited till I said I had gone before responding…) you look like a Zionist and you quack like a Zionist. Zionist, toi? Mais oui. If your objective is not Zion in Israel, it is some kind of Zion in the UK. From which aliens of any kind are rigorously excluded. Not so?
    FYI, a moderate atheist is an atheist who does not believe it necessary to insist that his lack of faith is shared by all. I hope that is helpful. You might even try it on and see if it fits…

  179. Blog-warriors can change the world:
    http://xkcd.com/635/

  180. Vacuum fumigation is the best way to kill bookworm.

  181. ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬ NHS RIP ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
    .
    ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬ 1948 – 2012 ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
    .
    ¬¬¬¬¬¬ KILLED BY THE COALITION ¬¬¬¬¬¬

  182. Abdul Jarndyce

    27 Mar, 2012 - 9:42 pm

    The hidden hand: how the US spookocracy shuts down evidence in British courts:
    http://bit.ly/HgpmgZ

  183. Komodo,
    One of Rita Katz fans (site: search internet …..), fighting the “holy war” and seeking out the “threats”!!!!! Who knows next conversation could move onto what kind of uniform ought to be worn, and what kind of oath to be sworn, just like these Groom Your Own Terrorist kind of “activists”.
    ,
    ,
    Really clever sort of operatives working in tandem, and backing each other. You are just a dumb lizard what should you know? Me, I know nofin, see, nofin!!!!

  184. Abdul Jarndyce

    27 Mar, 2012 - 10:06 pm

    Latest: yet another Murdoch secret unit sabotages competitors in Oz:
    http://bit.ly/GXayTL

  185. boniface goncourt

    27 Mar, 2012 - 10:56 pm

    Yo Vronsky

    I don’t have a manifesto. Power corrupts. When politicians say ‘freedom’ they mean ‘my dinner’. All is vanity. ‘God’ is nothing more than the airbrushed Ego. ‘Aberrant rationality’ is an oxymoron. You mean insanity, the default mode of humans.

    That Komodo is a bit of a fruit ‘n’ nutcase. Atheist? Wannabe haji more like, and too lazy to read my gems of anti-zionism. Nothing a few pork scratchings wouldn’t cure.

    Never trust a bloke with no foreskin. A lifetime of itchy Jap’s eye makes you even more deranged than normal.

    When the moderate Muslims are crouched down with their heads
    pointing to Mecca, where are their arses supposed to point?

    Check it

    With Beckett!

  186. Regarding this boards in fighting. we must not forget why we are here.

    It seems we are being played and we play into their hands and the next “war On” will be us lot; in fighting.

    We need to forget what our mutual diversities are and consider the consequences of assimiliation and aggreements later.

    For all our differnces, religious, cultural, political, we must not forget, our common ground.

    We know that a lie is a lie and to be lied to is a wrong doing.

    A cheat is a cheat and to be cheated is wrong doing.

    A missconception is lie in itself.

    This is happeningon a daily basis.

    We are being played by the msm for and behalf of the leaders ask yourself this who knows what and why, and their reasons for their behaviour is for what?

    Their must be some serious deep seated brain activity that underlies and defines the “them from us”. Is it just more than self preservation on their part because that is what seems we are standing for right now. But us on here is all about the self preservation of others.

    Justice for the few.

  187. Jay said,
    .
    “Their must be some serious deep seated brain activity that underlies and defines the “them from us”.”
    .
    It is conscious evolution Jay – perhaps some ‘evolve’ quicker than others. Sadly the enlightened are perceived as ‘crack-pots’ as Max tries to describe here:
    .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL43793AD0961B3A84&feature=player_embedded&v=BxjTA78LJ38#!

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