Disaster – Genius Needed

by craig on April 1, 2012 5:35 am in Uncategorized

I am sorry for the blog hiatus, but I follow a method of historical research a bit akin to method acting! I am absolutely immersed in the world of Burnes. I am in Bhuj at tne moment, and yesterday was at Mandivi looking at the shipyards and harbours where Burnes procured his boats to sail up the Indus – they are still made today. Much larger than I had realised. In Mumbai I identified a “lost”, uncatalogued portrait of Alexander Burnes which I think is the finest of him anywhere. The owners did not know who it was. It is by Brockendon like the one in the royal geographical society but is quite different, with him in military uniform. It is by Brockendon, not a copy.

Today disaster. I have lost ten days worth of notes. I noticed this morning that I had two versions of the identical document of my notes open – an .ODT on open office. One was a much older version. Paradoxically they had the identical file name but both showed as saved – the save icon was blanked on each.

Having checked that the content was all there on the version on which I was working, and that it was saved, I decided the best thing was to close off the extraneous version. Disaster!! An error message came up saying open office would now close. On restart, document recovery brought up only the old version, minus ten days work. I had a moment of hope when I right clicked on the document icon and saw “restore earlier versions of the document” but clicking on that just brought up a ,essage that there are no earlier versions available.

I am heartbroken- these aren’t just notes that can be recovered from memory, but also painstaking transcripts of old manuscripts, some of which I probably can’t access again even if I had the time and money.

I can think of a dozen things I might have done to avoid this situation. Comments on how to avoid such happenings are not welcome in the current trying circumstance. The real question is, can anyone think of anything at all that might help? I am running Open Office on Windows 7.

I really cannot express how much in despair I feel. This trip has cost all my available cash and I have to come back soon as money is out.

[If any mods have hung around while the blog is quiet, I am getting an extremely small typeface, only on this site. Do we have a problem, or is it another computer glitch personal to me?]

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  1. Not used windows for a long time but if you could avoid using the computer until you could get or a friendly UK person could image the drive and then look t a copy with a disc recovery program you might be ble to get the version before, o if you were saving say every hour you might get an hour old version back.

    However the more you use that computer the less likely it is as the disk space previously used might be overwritten long with the chance to get it.

    I think that is correct, based on my limited memory of Windows systems. best of luck…

  2. I use Open Office as well.It saved an updated version of a file whilst keeping original without update with original file name.
    Run search on Windows for files altered on the date you think you lost your work.It could be that your updated version has been saved but file name slightly altered with a (1) or “old” as happened with mine.
    best of luck !!

  3. I think the best place to get expert advice on recovering your .odt file is to post a request for help in one of the forum communities for OpenOffice, e.g. http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/

    The .odt is basically a ZIP-file and is separating the content, styles, metadata, and application settings into separate XML files.

    Make a copy of your .odt files and unzip them into an empty directory. You can open a XML-file with any editor like Notepad. If you are lucky, maybe only the metadata is corrupted, not the content.

  4. First of all -the suggestions before are all quite useful, but before doing anything else- save your actual version under a new file name and don’t touch the original any more. At least not with OpenOffice.
    You might then create a working copy under another name from Windows Explorer and use this one to try to recreate document history. So you still have the originial data if anything goes wrong.

    You might also check temp files in C:\temp C:\Users\… and the like, if you are lucky you might find an autobackup – the guys at the official forums will most likely know the exact place where OpenOffice might put these data.

  5. The files should still be written somewhere on the hard drive on unallocated sectors. Recovery will be possible until these sectors over overwritten. There is software freely available that can find these sectors and recover the files. I hope that this is one of the cases where you can FishRestore, which would be by far the easiest.

  6. I think Darren is correct. The data can probably be forensically recovered but you have to stop using the computer to prevent it being overwritten in the meantime.

  7. 1. Immediately download free software program such as Recuva from Piriform. You can do this from a site like filehippo.com.

    2. Install Recuva (requires administrator rights).

    3. Start Recuva running as Administrator. If your user account already has administrator priveleges this is automatic when you click the icon; otherwise right click the icon and select run as administrator. The program has a wizard that comes up. On the wizard, the first thing to come up is file type. Click documents; it includes .odt. Click Next, then on the new menu specify the disk or partition where the file would be located. Use In a specific location. The default is C: and this would be where the file is if you haven’t done things like partition your disk. If you are saving your .odt files to another location (say, E:), specify it. Next click next and then start without specifying deep scan.

    4. When the music stops, check whether your file is listed in the list. If not close the program and redo the wizard, this time clicking deep scan. Go have a cup of tea. Maybe even a meal. Maybe even go for a walk. When you’ve come back look on the list for your file. If all you see are numbered .odt files, you’re going to have to recover all of them and do a manual examination of each document, what it contains. You’re going to have to save the file(s) to a different disk–possibly a thumb drive/USB stick. Save the file(s). Open each and every document. You should be okay.

    5. The reason you shouldn’t be using your computer until you recover the file is the following. When you delete a file (any file), all Windows does is release the space. It isn’t overwritten. But the more you use your computer the more possible it is that some other write activity will be allocated the blocks that contain your missing file. Hence one or more blocks can be overwritten thus damaging the file you want to recover. If it hasn’t been overwritten, Recuva will find it and save it, so you should be okay.

    6. In future, after every work session, copy your work to a thumb drive. Keep the thumb drive around your neck. That way even a determined adversary or hard disk crash on the main computer or general computer failure or computer theft will find it a little more difficult to destroy your work.

  8. So sorry but isn’t it amazing that there is instantly so much useful help and advice from these kind readers of your blog. We really are ‘together’ here.

  9. If you happen to be using Win7 Professional or Enterprise/Ultimate, the Previous Versions feature may have a backup. Unfortunately it is nit in the normal Home edition so this probably doesn’t apply.

  10. @Mary: Right, like a school of… oh well.

  11. If only the tale of Craig’s woes was an April Fool. Sadly not I think. Neither is this. The fools are in Istanbul.
    As the Foreign Secretary with the boiled egg look sits down alongside Shillary and representatives of 68 other ‘nations’ in Istanbul today, further demonisation of President Assad will be taking place. Pressure on him to go will increase. Hague has just handed over another £500k to the rebel rabble which will doubtless be spent on weaponry.

    Even Assad’s wife is being villified. In the Washington Post, a headline reads ‘While bloodshed continues, she shops for crystal encrusted shoes’. I thought they were talking about the likes of Karimov’s daughter. No. Not even Michelle or SamCam.

    WESTERN PSY-OPS AGAINST SYRIA: When Mrs Assad’s “Shopping” Becomes a “Crime Against Humanity”



    Good opening spoof para!


    PS The state broadcaster’s stooge Marr has got Hague coming on his chat show shortly. What a waste of airwaves and satellite time.

  12. school of fools?

  13. Craig, you have my sympathy.
    The above advice seems mostly correct:
    1) The old version is probably still on your hard disk, but using your installed Windows system increases the risk that it will be over-written.
    2) Confused’s advice above risks the lost data somewhat because the installation of Recurva writes to your hard disk.
    3) If you can get an “image” of the whole drive made now, the lost version should be preserved in the image for recovery later.
    However, all imaging techniques are not equal. Some do not record the contents of the “blank” parts of the disk, and these are not good enough. The ones that do will produce an image file as big as your whole hard disk. This will be much bigger than a writable DVD. You would probably have to buy an external hard disk to keep it on.
    Using your machine without disturbing the lost data:
    Your machine could be booted with a GNU/Linux “LiveCD”. By default, these do not write to the hard disk, thus permitting the use of your machine without disturbing the contents of the hard disk. Note: a LiveCD can write to your hard disk if you ask it to, so don’t do that, and don’t choose any “Install” option for the same reason. Anyone with a decent Internet connection can download the image for the Ubuntu LiveCD from here:
    It’s a big file (about 700 megabyte) so broadband is needed to download it. It can then be written onto a CD to make a bootable LiveCD. I would guess that most Indian computer shops would know how to do this. There is no charge for the software, and a blank CD costs about 20p.
    A LiveCD works in the computer’s RAM, the contents of which are lost at power-off or when the machine is restarted. Thus, to save any work from a LiveCD session, the most convenient method is to use a USB memory stick.
    Please keep us informed. If you wish to attempt recovery of the lost version before you come home, I can post instructions here.

  14. A good April Fool piece here.
    Cameron asks Shaun Ryder to advise on class and help to detox ToriesAfter a week of gaffes, No 10 calls in the Happy Mondays singer who helps to launch a T-shirt campaign to banish ‘pastygate’

    .In pictures: Ryder’s celebritiy friends help launch the ‘We’re All Eating This Together’ T-shirt campaign

  15. Craig, regarding the small typeface you are seeing, I haven’t seen that problem here.

  16. Someone, get on a plane to Delhi pronto.
    @Nuzothie and April Fool I can only see porpoises or clerks here.

  17. Clark is correct that there is the risk of over-writing the file; however, the chances are low. One solution is indeed to use a boot CD the way he says. The grand ultimate solution is to unscrew the Hard Disk from the computer (not something they taught you at FCO I imagine), put it into a hard disk box (cheap) that turns it into an external disk drive, then install Recuva on ANOTHER computer (can’t do it on the old one since it doesn’t have a disk anymore), and then run Recuva from the other computer pointing it to the now external hard disk that is connected from the box by a USB plug. This stuff is easy for a techie, but you’re not in London. Not that they’re aren’t techies in India (!) but it’s a foreign country and what do you know? This stuff is simple for a techie. Best wishes.

  18. Just an addendum. The only problem with a bootable CD is that it’s not certain that it will have software to recover deleted files. Even forensic bootable CD’s can’t be assumed to have such software automatically.

  19. Craig, I’ve e-mailed to the various addresses I have for you. Obviously, read them from a computer other than your laptop if at all possible.

  20. Confused, I agree that the risk of loss is fairly low; any use of the installed Windows system increases the risk.
    Any major GNU/Linux distro will include the package “testdisk”, which can recover lost files. If it’s a Debian-based distro, the following command will download it from the repository and install it, even into a LiveCD session, so long as there’s an Internet connection:
    sudo apt-get install testdisk

  21. I think the main point is that you mustn’t use the computer that the data is lost on as you may overwrite it.
    It happened to me a couple of times that I lost all my data (probably those darned Zionists eh? – *swivel-eyes, swivel-eyes*)
    A friend told me I should use a programme called “Spinrite”.
    When I used it it worked really well.

  22. SpinRite is an excellent program from Peter Gibson, but not quite the right software for this as (1) it is primarily intended for recovery from physical hard disk damage rather than files lost by deletion, and (2) it writes recovered data back to the disk drive being examined, where it could overwrite the data we’re searching for.
    Craig’s computer (i.e. hardware) can be used without risking the lost data, but the system installed on his hard disk cannot, i.e. Craig’s Windows 7 should not be started until the file has been recovered.
    File recovery is likely to produce masses of recovered files without their original names. The Ubuntu LiveCD approach enables these files to be inspected, as the Ubuntu CD includes OpenOffice for opening the recovered .odt files.
    Peter Gibson revealed several security flaws in various versions of Windows, and also set up the useful Shields Up! website that can scan your system for security holes:

  23. Ah! Okay, thanks for that Clark. I was hoping you could give your opinion on SpinRite as I know very little about these things.

  24. “Peter Gibson” – I mean “Steve Gibson”, duh. I think Microsoft bought out his company in the end to shut him up about security flaws in Windows; see the section “Was MICE added to Windows intentionally?”:
    SpinRite used some very clever techniques to attempt recovery of data corrupted by physical defects on the disk surface, but the latest version was released in 2004, and hard disk technology has moved on since then. It’s a specialist tool for data recovery experts to use on certian older hard disks, and way beyond (and slightly unsuitable for) the undelete functionality required for this job.

  25. As other have pointed out you should *STOP* using your current machine (as doing so will decrease the chance of recovering your file) and seek expert advice. There is still good chance that the “right” version still lies on the disk but the more you use your machine the bigger the risk to loose it forever.

  26. Did you check the open office menu, File>Recent documents, for another copy of the document? Open office should not be able to accidentally edit the same file in two instances, so a duplicate copy would explain how you appeared to being doing this.
    If there is no other copy in oo menu file>recent documents, there is but a *slim* chance that a careful technical recovery process will recover the file, but undertaking this yourself or following instructions here has a really high chance of frustration and spoiling what slim chance there is.
    My advice is to check those recent docs in the open office menu (not windows recent docs), and if no other copies are there, shut down the laptop and consider it untouchable until you can get it to someone who can do a safe scan of the hard drive -on the off chance the file was not overwritten in the apparently buggy incident, or afterward by your webcache etc, while the laptop has been used.
    Proceed as though it has gone – use your mind/pencil.

  27. Oddy enough the dog ate my homework once……….

  28. Abdul Jarndyce

    1 Apr, 2012 - 2:26 pm

    Other side of the hard disk, meanwhile:
    Bradford’s electoral riot—how forgotten corner of diddled Britain shoved its anger up party hacks’ to-do list:


  29. Abdul Jarndyce

    1 Apr, 2012 - 2:50 pm

    And particularly for listeners abroad, this being Sunday, a Desert Island Discs Special: Donald Rumsfeld

  30. Abdul Jarndyce

    1 Apr, 2012 - 2:54 pm

    Normal Rumsfeld service now hopefully resumes with missing link:

  31. Meanwhile, back im the ‘ConDemocracy’… Planned for inclusion in the queen’s speech so it must be true.

  32. Also on the BBC website, so definitely a true story!!
    The prediction of the arrival of a fascist state gets ever nearer. Or is it here already?

  33. Craig, daft question probably, but you mentioned that you’d tried two of OpenOffice’s recovery options, but did you try just opening the file as normal?
    Craig’s description of two files with the same names suggests that different versions may have got saved in two different folders. A simple search on the filename might locate the newer version. But I’d recommend trying these options from a LiveCD session so as not to disturb the contents of the hard disk.
    Crab, I’ve had pretty good results with undelete utilities. When a hard disk is big and mostly empty, deleted files can remain undisturbed for a long time. I once recovered about sixty files from a Windows drive that had been formatted and over-written with Ubuntu.
    I hope Craig reports back with good news.

  34. Just to endorse Clark’s solution: it’s sound.
    Run a Linux distro FROM THE CD or THUMBDRIVE and recover files using that, saving the recovered files TO A THUMBDRIVE NOT THE HARD DISC.
    You may even find you like Ubuntu better than Windows, I do, it’s what I’m using.
    However if you’re not too sure about Linux, bring it back with you and let Clark have a go. Sounds like he knows what he’s about. Borrow another box to complete your researches?
    I suspect that the mains supply in Mumbai/wherever is less than perfect, and the small typeface is another symptom of data corruption due to this. When you’ve got the files off it, and backed-up the remains, you would be well advised to do a complete reinstall of W7. You would be even better advised to install Ubuntu instead….

  35. You might find it kicking around in a Temp folder, too. Amazing how long Windows can store stuff in there if you don’t clear it out, but that depends on the installation. As it’s in Something/Temp (not Windows/Temp, as it’s OO? Clark?) and OO’s probably looking at My Docs/Something, this is not immediately obvious.

  36. People on medialens are asking if the internet spying stuff and this about Cherie Blair are April Fool pieces!
    March 30, 2012 6:23 pm
    Cherie Blair moves into private healthcare
    By Anousha Sakoui, Andrea Felsted and Sarah Neville
    Cherie Blair will venture into the health market on Saturday with the launch of a private healthcare centre in a branch of J Sainsbury – the supermarket chain.
    This is part of a debut venture by the private equity fund she co-founded, which plans to open 100 private health centres across the UK, at a time when government reforms are triggering enormous upheavals in the cash-strapped National Health Service.
    But in her first interview on the topic, Mrs Blair, who is married to former prime minister Tony Blair, rebuffed any suggestion that the venture sought to take advantage of difficulties in the NHS.
    “While this venture is a commercial one, it is not about replacing the NHS or profiteering, but complementing the services it already offers,” Mrs Blair told the Financial Times. “Our aim is to simplify access to basic healthcare and improve medical outcomes through earlier detection and more timely referrals to GPs.”
    The venture highlights a trend in the retail sector for putting extra customer services into superstores – from health centres to hairdressers – to put excess space to use. Sainsbury’s will receive a percentage of the turnover from the service, which is being launched in Leeds, as well as rent and the health centres will run on a partnership model similar to that operated by John Lewis, the UK retailer. They will provide health, optical, hearing and dental care, and are expected to employ GPs and dentists.
    However, the role of the private sector in healthcare delivery has come under scrutiny as the government’s NHS reform legislation endured a difficult passage through parliament.
    Critics, including some within the ruling Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition, argued that plans to promote competition in the provision of NHS-funded services paved the way for privatisation.
    The reform blueprint was watered down to secure the support of Lib Dem dissenters. Some in the private healthcare industry fear its share of the NHS-funded market could fall below levels it reached under Mr Blair’s premiership.
    Mrs Blair founded the Allele Fund in 2008 with Gail Lese, a doctor and fund manager, with the aim of investing in healthcare and technology companies internationally.
    They have lined up Cavendish, an advisory firm, to help raise $100m to finance the venture, called Mee Healthcare and which is expected to become profitable within the next five years.

    “The outlook for the [health] sector couldn’t be stronger; driven by an ageing demographic in the UK, greater demand from consumers towards convenience and accessibility, combined with an increasing emphasis on health and wellbeing,” said Dr Lese. There is also growing demand for pre-screening and preventative care, she added.
    No not April Fools. Both true and completely revolting.

  37. I trust that the special advice to Craig, to ‘Not start your computer up again’ has had him reaching for pencils by now, good luck with it and see you back soon.

    Thanks for that snippet Abdul, a great account of many volunteers who’d ‘won it for George’ and also a good lesson to anyone wanting to stand as an Independent. I should write up my experiences, working for Bushra in Blackburn, but it would mean stressing myself with bad vibes from the past, and its gardening time!

    To stand in an election, in your own locality, where you might or might not beknown, one must use the time before elections to do stuff, writing lots of letters on topical issues helps to keep your name alive, active work.
    When the time comes, you first need a galvanising issue, volunteers that are willing to help long hours, an electoral agent, unless you want to do it yourself, a good healthy constitution, because you are up from 8am till midnight.

    People have to be pursuaded, they have to know you care, your face has to be seen at as many opportunities as you can fit in. Never run away from a debate with other candidates, indeed demand you are included in panel debates. Press release your activities as best as you can, ideally at 6am in the morning, i.e your daily itinary, where you gonna be, etc., but do not rely on the media,they are fickle and thats a nice word for their bipartisan coverage. Rely on your campaigns/election agent and your team, alone, and ensure that your volunteers keep happy and healthy, have some time out with them.

  38. The replies you have received in terms of looking for the file via the file system are good. It should be there.

    During the writing of my PhD way back in the days of 3.5″ floppies I had a main set in the office, a set that lived in my bag and was updated every day and another set that lived at home and was brought in once a week for updating (no home computer). That is not as anal as some I have known, it is a minimum. Back up everything, preferably to another drive. This can be done automatically now. Once you have resolved this, and I’m sure you can, learn from it so it can never happen again.

  39. Hey, Windows 7 users, where would OpenOffice default to storing Craig’s file? This is Windows 7, so I’m guessing something like:
    C:\Users\Craig\My Documents
    In XP, would it have been(?):
    C:\Documents and Settings\Craig\My Documents
    In Windows 7, is “Documents and Settings” a shortcut pointing at “Users”, or is “Documents and Settings” a folder in its own right?

  40. Komodo, I know some of the folder paths for XP, but not for 7. Windows stores “Temporary” folders all over the place. In XP it was:
    C:\Documents and Settings\{account name}\Local Settings\Application Data\{application name}\… etc. Or something like that. There are also
    and maybe others called “tmp” instead of “Temp”, though a user’s file should only be somewhere in that user’s folder, not in “C:\” or “C:\Windows”. I’ve never bothered learning all the paths; I just go fishing as needed.
    And yes, I’d be willing to visit Craig to attempt file recovery when he gets home.

  41. …fishing as needed…Me too. I have one box at work running XP in a W7 VM and that is as near as I want to get to W7. I’ve seen Windows likened to a car with the bonnet welded shut, but the little of W7 I’ve seen suggests a car with the bonnet welded shut and concreted over, with a spy phoning home in the driving seat. Even XP has too many temp files for comfort…
    Hope Craig has found an inet cafe and is able to read your good advice!

  42. On Win 7, LibreOffice, which is probably close enough Open Office to give the path, has these default paths:

    backups: C:\Users\[Craig’s User Account Name]\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\3\user\backup

    documents: C:\Users\[Craig’s User Account Name]\Documents

    temp files: C:\Users\[First 6 letters of Craig’s User Account Name]~1\AppData\Local\Temp

    However, when you save a file using ‘save as’ then the program opens the folder last saved to. You have to browse to a different folder. Any further saves of the same file will default to the folder the file was last saved to. So if Craig has been saving his work to a special folder somewhere, then that’s where it is.

    Also, when I ran a test with Recuva to give the instructions above, I saw that the files showed up with alphanumeric names. Recuva will sort on file type, so it would be easy to save all the .odt files to an external drive, and then to open them one by one. Since there are a whole pile of saves Craig should be picking up not only the last saved file but all kinds of slightly older files.

    If Craig or someone in Delhi removes the Hard Disk from the Computer, puts it into a box and then opens it as an external disk drive on ANOTHER computer under Recuva (following the wizard but pointing it to the now-external drive) there is no danger of data degradation since the now-external drive doesn’t boot; it is just an external hard disk drive. Of course you will see all your system files as mere data files.

  43. …the W7 VM – XP box is because some proprietory software does not run on W7 because W7 is not backwards-compatible. What does the software do? It opens an ASCII terminal on an RS232 link. Thank you, our Windows-indoctrinated IT people…

  44. The RGS portrait of Alexander Burnes by William Brockedon. Also some images of charts given to Burnes.

  45. The painter William Brockedon

  46. Confused, thanks for the paths. The technique of connecting the hard disk to another computer to prevent the disk from being written to is essentially the same as booting from a LiveCD or a USB stick. The former requires a second machine, and the removal of Craig’s hard disk and its installation into a USB external hard disk box. The latter requires a LiveCD, an Internet connection, and a USB memory stick to save the recovered files on.
    Komodo, I think Windows 7 and Vista are not backwards-compatible with some Windows XP software because that software won’t work with Vista and 7’s improved security arrangements.

  47. Abdul Jarndyce

    1 Apr, 2012 - 6:51 pm

    Of poss interest to prospective Parliamentary candidates—even if in lands afar, & buggered by malfunctioning hard disks. A rare Tory voice of truth on Bradford’s electoral riot:

  48. Abdul Jarndyce

    1 Apr, 2012 - 8:47 pm

    One bit of good news at least, Craig, amid the tech glitches. YouTube now available on DVD:

  49. Craig, I am so sorry to read what has happened to your document.

    I know advice given *after* things happened is not worth much – but I having once lost several folders due to a bug in Windows XP I now feel a bit wiser.

    Now my laptop runs remote backup software all the time (four at the sime time: Syncplicity, Dropbox, Live Mesh and Insync). Just to be on the safe side. In India, mobile internet is available (albeit terribly slow) pretty much all over the country – a GSM dongle plugged in your laptop could have saved your work.

    Take care, come back home safely.

  50. First thing to do is to TURN OFF the computer and stop using it until you are able to scan it using data recovery software. This is to prevent Windows overwriting the sectors of the drive where lost data is recorded. Windows keep writing to the hard drive all the time, even if no applications are open, so computer the system should be switched off!
    Then, using another computer, google up for a “Recovery CD”, or other recovery programs that can be can run off a pendrive. There are dozens of such solutions, also free ones, up there on the internet. I have never used any of them – but if you google up “data recovery boot CD”, etc., you are sure to get plenty of results. The trick is to either record them to a CD and then boot your computer of the CD, or format a pendrive to emulate a CD drive and then run the recovery CD image off it.
    Let me know if you need more details, I can try to google up all the information.

  51. The software is a skeletal GUI to allow the user to configure a COM port, open it, and translate a remote device’s I/O for a terminal window. It’s the sort of thing you have to physically prevent ‘Nix systems from doing when you’re not paying attention, and rumour has it that even MSDOS could manage something similar. Vista? Bloatware. I once bought a box with Vista preloaded. I wiped it the same day in disgust, and replaced it with Mandriva*.
    (Advertisement) Stop buying stuff. Load Linux….
    *later replaced, but it was a good choice at the time.

  52. ‘Confused’ is right; if autosave is ticked then voila:
    Go to folder titled AppData, opening a subfolder titled Local, opening a subfolder to Local titled Temp, opening a subfolder to Temp titled [craig username letters].tmp, then change the .tmp file extention to .odt.
    Else go here:
    Download – install – run – look for file.

  53. @ Craig,
    I assumed that your next post would be on the Bradford West victory ( defeat – of course, if you were on the opposite side of George Galloway).
    I do declare that I like George Galloway.
    His enemies say that he is egotistical, narcissistic, and a bloody loud mouth. Well for my part, his ego has its equivalent in Muhammad Ali and Usain Bolt – both accomplished athletes, likeable, humane and principled people, as best I know. But, in Galloway we find a showman, not in the boxing ring or on the running track, but in the fight and run of representative politics, and a bloody good fighter and a damn good runner in Bradford West was he. The loud mouth part of it is so true, and as a debater and an orator he actually is very talented.
    Galloway is one of the few, unlike so many balless and unprincipled Members of Parliament ( gutless if one is a woman elected to represent – but doesn’t stand up against wrongs) – who has consistently spoken truth to power about the Palestinians’ plight and the criminality of the West in its blind and mindless support for Israel, and likewise his opposition to the war criminals Blair and Bush, and the savagery unleashed in Afghanistan and on Iraq.
    Agreed, that Galloway is not perfect and he has erred in some of his political judgments. The “indefatigable” Saddam ( Saddam’s “indefatigability” was naïve and a political mis – step; it was a wrong political stance by Galloway). He failed to understand the brutality of Saddam when the US sold him the chemical weapons used against the Iranians. Galloway was thus, partially correct on that occasion, because the “oil war” has been a huge waste of Western money and has bled over a million Iraqi lives. It was and remains a violation of International law when Blair and Bush lied, and then more than a million have died. Galloway, has consistently spoken out and he is right.
    More importantly, if one wants a democracy, then voices representative of the minorities, have to have parliamentary space, and Galloway appeals and makes room for that in Westminster. He is not quite credible when he supports Middle East dictators – but he does so in the context of the West fawning to the other Middle Eastern dictators who are supplicants, clients and compliant, while brutally demitting from office those who dare oppose Western hegemony ( cf. Gadaffi and the British non-response to Saudi Arabian and Bahranian dictatorships). Galloway does indeed have flaws – and which human being doesn’t ? He appeals to the idealistic young, the left, the Muslims and he has cultivated his own cult of personality. So what?
    I suspect, and think that I know that you –Craig, would not be as approving of Galloway as I am. But, Craig are you not a middle class trained diplomat, and person of conscience? I suspect, if I ever met you, I might find you urbane, courteous, considerate and gracious to a fault. Galloway, by contrast is…..you fill in the blanks ( not quite like a Craig Murray).
    So – we sit smugly by, and disapprove of the braggadocio and flamboyant style of the man, but at the risk of ignoring the substance of his message.
    I would sooner have Galloway in Westminster any day of the week than some of the spineless ones and wankers elected to represent.
    To Galloway’s credit, I say – Audentes fortuna juvat (“fortune favours the bold”) – and for my part, I salute him.

    P.S. Murray – my sympathy – and I do respect you as an honourable man of courage.

  54. This is a software freedom issue. Windows does not give Craig the freedom to start his computer except from the installed Windows system, which risks corruption of the deleted file.
    At present, Craig could get around this by starting his computer with a GNU/Linux “LiveCD”, or a bootable USB stick (GNU/Linux again). Microsoft will not offer such tools because such an operating system would not be tied to the hardware of your machine, and Microsoft sell 99% of their Windows systems by having them pre-installed on new machines.
    But Microsoft are currently applying their market dominance to the hardware manufacturers. Microsoft are advocating a system called “Secure Boot”. This would be built into computers, and would make it impossible to boot any system but Windows. Of course, they’re calling this a “security feature”, having created the security panic with their insecure software in the first place.
    If you wish to preserve our freedom to run software of our choice on our own machines, please sign this petition:

  55. Apparently words like dinasoar are being taken out of school tests in New York for not being Pc.

    Its a form of new world order liberal Faschism to dumb us down.
    I am so glad we havent got a Television here.


    Good luck with your Retrieval Craig.

    Alexander Burnes seems an interesting fella.

  56. If the machine in question has already been partitioned into having a C: and D: ‘drive’ (but which are, in fact, both on the single internal disk), then recovery s/w may be installed on the other partition to that which holds your documents. Such an installation will not endanger the data because the recovery program is written to free blocks which would never be used by the Office document.
    I’m not that familiar with M$ OS’s, but it’s surely worth performing a full search on the drive with the documents, for anything containing the original document filename. Make sure to include ‘hidden files’ in the search.
    Locking stable doors and all that, but my advice on important working documents is to backup important documents to your own hotmail or gmail account regularly, encrypted first if necessary, as an attachment. Saves messing about with zip drives, and doesn’t depend on anything remaining in your personal possession. One poor acquaintance has her entire PhD thesis on a floppy back in the day that was continually being used. Just one. That eventually failed, she was heartbroken.
    There are plenty of data recovery firms about – it would be most surprising if this data were completely irretrievable.


  57. Glenn, C:\ and D:\ partitions only help a bit, unfortunately. The file is on C:\. Windows is nearly always installed on C:\, and Windows itself constantly writes to the partition it’s installed on, even if the recovery software is on another partition. The only way to ensure that the unindexed file is not over-written is to not write to the partition it’s on, so that means not starting Windows at all.
    I agree that a filename search could find an old or a backup version, but it’s safer to do it without starting the Windows system which is installed on C:\.

  58. Possums get ready for the front door crashing and hoards of goons making their way into your homes;
    UK government preparing email and internet surveillance legislation
    Under legislation expected in next month’s Queen’s Speech, internet companies will be instructed to install hardware enabling GCHQ – the government’s electronic “listening” agency – to examine “on demand” any phone call made, text message and e-mail sent, and website accessed in “real time”, it was reported yesterday.
    Donuchyou love the smell of freedoms?

  59. “Comments on how to avoid such happenings are not welcome in the current trying circumstance.”
    An understandable request. It seems a bit of a din in here tho.

  60. Craig, we’ve all been all barking up the wrong tree here. Send a silly text in an airport or write a controversial poem. Then let the authorities pull you in; they’ll confiscate your laptop and extract every bit of data they possibly can. Then recover the lost data via a Freedom of Information Act request, and recover the laptop when an MP tries to dispose of it in a public litter bin.

  61. Clark: You’re right, the only chance for this approach is if the datafiles were all on D: . It’s best to leave the thing entirely alone and not start ‘doze up again, as you say, and take it to a data recovery outfit. Most inconvenient for Craig though. Perhaps he should remove the disk, and get a new small one installed with an OS by some local IT shop – new notes can be made and the old disk kept intact. Better still, stick to old tech of the paper variety until returning.
    Accidentally erasing a piece of work has happened to the best of us. My approach is to start again without delay, it’s surprising what’s retained in our memory. The second draft often turns out to be better than one remembers the first as being, and done unexpectedly swiftly too.
    Not that Craig needs much of my advice, but I’d use the remaining time there to re-do the taking of transcripts – by photos if pressed for time, multiple shots of each page – and knocking up a outline to what was in the missing notes. Fill in the details as time allows. A severe PITA, but that’s the best that can be done with a bad situation. I’ve done it numerous times in the past, one can get mightily annoyed, or put it aside with a sigh and press on as part of the business of life right away. It’s surprising how quickly one moves into the “acceptance” phase of grief should one decide to get on with things as they are without delay.
    John Pilger had nearly all his pictures from an investigation of Burma, taken in stealth at great personal danger, ruined by some idiot at the film lab. I imagine he was a bit cross about that too.

  62. boniface goncourt

    2 Apr, 2012 - 4:06 am

    Can you clarify what exactly these comment threads are supposed to be? There are a few rather prim theosophists, but not much of anyone else. Is it, as they claim, a “blog that specialises in spiritual understanding”? In which case, uh….

  63. Fedup I posted about this very important matter earlier, see

    1 Apr, 2012 – 2:58 pm
    Meanwhile, back im the ‘ConDemocracy’… Planned for inclusion in the queen’s speech so it must be true.


    1 Apr, 2012 – 3:12 pm
    Also on the BBC website, so definitely a true story!!
    The prediction of the arrival of a fascist state gets ever nearer. Or is it here already?
    but nobody commented or responded. I think we should all be working out what action to take to resist this. A massive citizens’ protest and a rising up against this gross invasion of our privacy is needed.

  64. Giles Fraser the man of principle who resigned from St Paul’s is taking up a priesthood in one of London’s deprived boroughs, Newington in the Elephant and Castle. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/01/canon-st-pauls-parish-priest
    He writes:”London is a tale of two cities: you’ve got the City of London, where people make extraordinary amounts of money, and you’ve got another London, represented by places like the Elephant & Castle, which is largely forgotten. It’s the church’s job to be an advocate and to shine a light on poverty.”

    I have just been reading about some of the inqualities.
    eg the average take of a CEO of a FTSE 100 company is now £4.2m (Guardian)
    69% of the acreage of Britain is owned by 0.6% of the population. More pertinently, 158,000 families own 41 million acres of land, while 24 million families live on the four million acres of the urban plot. (New Statesman)

  65. I tried using Openoffice on MS7 and eventually concluded that MS finds Openoffice the enemy and they will fight it. I use it with my Ubuntu system and have had few problems.

    But in any case the first dozen suggestions here for recovering your data make much sense.

  66. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-greece-conduct-joint-naval-drill-amid-ongoing-tension-with-turkey-1.421907#.T3jmB4qcH7g.aolmail
    This from David Schermerhorn – Free Gaza. His accompanying message is below the dotted line.
    Extraordinary how almost all ‘western’ nations bow to the Zionist entity. Down to allegiances in the rotten ‘leaderships’ – UK and US par excellence. Eg our so-called Foreign Secretary, Hague, who only a few ‘American’ citizens would have heard of, stood up aged 16 at a Tory/GOP conference to proclaim he was a ‘Friend of Israel’. Yes, aged 16. He has not advanced beyong being the nasty little squirt he was then.

    More ‘mundus nostrum’ than ‘mare nostrum’. And the entity resents ‘delegitimation’.


    On 02/04/12 00:54, David Schermerhorn of Free Gaza wrote:

    To all, Why should we be surprised that the Audacity and others did not succeed? Why the AoH remains imprisoned? Not only are Flotillas blocked but the Israeli gas deposits are protected by the US 6th Fleet off Cyprus or Lebanon or Gaza. The Med has become Israel’s Mare Nostrum with our support.

  67. Mary, rest assured you are not a voice crying in the wilderness – I read your reference yesterday to the new internet Stasi snooping bill and nodded in agreement. (Or maybe that should read the OLD internet Stasi snooping bill, because, of course, this is the second time round the block for it.) It’s rich, isn’t it? that a government currently beating up a newspaper for phone hacking wants to phone hack the entire nation.
    But not enough people seem to care in the same way they undoubtedly would if all the nation’s snailmail were re-routed via GCHQ.
    Mind you, did you see the recent article in Wired on the real time spying centre they are building in the US? The intent is to monitor ALL the world’s communications in real time with acres of super computers to crack the encryption.

    “Those who do not  move, do not notice their chains.” – Rosa Luxemburg

  68. Look at these photos. They shock.
    I found them following reading this piece in which the link to a Guardian photo does not work hence the Mail link.
    Duty Calls {http://warlordsandmerchants.wordpress.com/2012/03/31/duty-calls/}
    On Thursday March 29th 2012, The Guardian published a half-page photo entitled “Duty calls, No-frills flights for US troops”[1]. The picture, an interior shot of a US military transport plane showed row after row of grinning American troops and was captioned “US soldiers relax on a plane bound for Afghanistan from a transit base outside Kyrgyzstan’s capital, Bishkek”. No further reporting or analysis accompanied the image.
    The troops in the photo are laughing cheerfully. It is the sort of image you could imagine the US military might use in recruitment material to demonstrate the ‘camaraderie’ and ‘adventure’ of army life; it is not what you expect to see in a supposedly left-wing newspaper.
    The image, in combination with its heading, depicts the US troops as simply doing their ‘duty’ and even appears to sympathise with them for being forced to tolerate a ‘no-frills flight’. Its broader context – that the troops shown in the image are being flown from a US military air base in Kyrgyzstan (one of hundreds of US military bases around the world that enforce its global hegemony) to reinforce the US/NATO military occupation of Afghanistan – is not discussed.


  69. Update: I expect that Craig is already doing as Glenn_uk advised above; recovering his work from his memory. Craig e-mailed me yesterday. He had installed Recuva, as per Confused’s suggestion, recovered a file and sent it as an attachment. I tried various ways of opening it, none of which revealed the original document. I e-mailed my (lack of) progress reports to him with requests for further files to try out, but I got no reply to several e-mails, so I expect he is working feverishly to reconstruct his work.
    Recuva gave the file the .txt extension. It isn’t actually a text file. OpenOffice files are really .zip files, but if this is a .zip file, it may have been truncated. Upon renaming to “recovered.zip” and attempting to open it, Ubuntu’s Archiver gives me the following error message:
    End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not
    a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the
    latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
    the last disk(s) of this archive.
    zipinfo: cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/clark/Desktop/recovered.zip or
    /home/clark/Desktop/recovered.zip.zip, and cannot find /home/clark/Desktop/recovered.zip.ZIP, period.

  70. Hey Clark, how’s things?
    My suggestion is for Craig (or someone who can get to his house) to take a copy of his temp files, and to sift through them in case there’s something there. It would require a bit of patience, and of course may not pay off – depends as you say on whether Craig is intending to try writing it out from memory anyway.
    I much sympathise with this predicament anyway – it has happened to me also.

  71. Jon, good to hear from you. Craig is in India; I’d have offered to go to Kent immediately, and will do when he gets back if he so wishes.

  72. Craig: you’ve probably tried this but the first thing to do is check Open Office’s own backup folder. You can find it by opening OO and navigating to Tools/Options/Paths (in the left pane)/Backups.

    If you can’t find what you want make sure Windows Explorer is configured to show hidden files (this is quite easy to do but I don’t know my way round W7). Sometimes after a crash files get converted to hidden status and won’t show up unless you specifically tell Windows to do so.

  73. @Mary – ‘Look at these photos. They shock.’
    I’m not trying to be flippant, but those conditions don’t look any worse than a typical economy class on a 747. ( Although the soldiers probably get better food.)

  74. I was not referring to the comfort or the lack of it. I was referring to the vast numbers of them and the number of planes with the members of the military sitting laughing and joking as they go to a foreign country to perform yet more atrocities.

    Or perhaps you are being ironic.

  75. I’m surprised that Recuva gave an Open Office .odt file a .txt extension.

    When I ran a test to give the proper procedure, Recuva showed up my .odt files as .odt, but only after a deep scan.

  76. Mary – Fedup
    Dave Davis warned of this legislation on WebCameron years ago (2008) when he was shadow home secretary. I backed him with a public awareness campaign online. I suspect he fought a bitter battle over civil liberties with Hague and agent Cameron which he lost and then resigned.
    For my part I am on a mission to stop the methods of stealth and manipulation that I believe exists in the British establishment.
    A deeper ill is the increasingly tenuous hold upon the levers of our own democracy by an apathetic populace.

  77. No I wasn’t being ironic, apart from the gag about the food. The Guardian article you reference talked about comfort, and the Daily Mail article was all about how crammed in they are. I merely pointed out the obvious riposte that they are no more crammed in than economy class tourists. As for the numbers, sending troops by plane is small beer compared to the traditional method of sending them by ship – the Queen Mary in World War 2 carried more than 10,000 troops. The only shocking thing for me in this story is what they do when they arrive at their destination.

  78. Austria are introducing similar monitoring of all email / mobile and Internet communication under pressure from the EU, holding onto all data for 6 months. Germany refused in the end as it was deemed unconstitutional, for the moment.
    The US already has access to most money transactions and email. This is all for their benefit.
    Joe public does not have the money for laundering , nor is part of a terrorist organization and yet we’re being targeted just in case ?
    As we saw what they did by discrediting Assad and his wife through disclosure of email, they can turn that little stint of online shopping into a crime against humanity.
    We’ll all have to think twice before ordering that korma by telephone or internet just in case the delivery driver was on holiday in Pakistan or India. Mind you , water boarding after a hot curry is maybe okay ??
    Whilst the police and our security services manage 100% anonymity in court or after shooting unarmed civilians , our Govt is trying their damnest to bring back the Star Chamber for all the online criminals that they will be able to nail and prosecute behind closed doors with this new legislation.
    The noose is tightening and our creepy wee Liberals go along with it all. Craig what is wrong with your old party ?? Don’t they have anybody left with ideals ??

  79. Mark You are correct on all scores. The apathy of the sheeple is the most concerning of course. They carry on posting on Facebook and Twitter without a care in the world or thought.
    King of Welsh Noir Point taken. I did link to this too
    Duty Calls http://warlordsandmerchants.wordpress.com/2012/03/31/duty-calls/
    which is a fair piece by a good man but who is typical of the liberal critic. “To imagine The Guardian publishing such a sympathetic and humanising image of troops from other militaries that are guilty of similar human rights violations is entirely inconceivable.” Inconceivable. Is it with people like Rusbridger and Leigh there? They care little for the grunts in the plane and even less for the ‘sand niggers/towel heads’. These are all gentiles. The high command in the Guardian are interested in Zionist hegemony. They are a very lethal and tiny minority of humans. Finally, it is not Afghanistan that is the focus, but Iran.

    The author I believe is this person on Linked In. Interesting combination HSBC and the FCO!
    Business Intelligence – Middle East & North Africa HSBC
    Public Company; 10,001+ employees; HBC; Financial Services industry

    February 2010 – Present (2 years 3 months)

    Volunteer Teacher UNRWA, Damascus, Syria
    Nonprofit; 10,001+ employees; International Affairs industry

    September 2009 – December 2009 (4 months)

    Research Intern UK Foreign & Commonwealth Office, Damascus, Syria

    June 2009 – November 2009 (6 months)

    Advocacy Intern International Crisis Group
    Nonprofit; 51-200 employees; International Affairs industry

    August 2008 – February 2009 (7 months)

    Freelance Researcher Control Risks Group
    Privately Held; 1001-5000 employees; Security and Investigations industry

    2008 – 2009 (1 year)

    Research Assistant Menas Associates
    Privately Held; 11-50 employees; International Affairs industry

    2007 – 2007 (less than a year)

  80. nicholas wood

    2 Apr, 2012 - 2:02 pm

    Dear Craig, Shut your lap top up and get it seen to by an expert.

    Quickly write out all your notes again with a fountain pen, you will be amazed how much you can remember.

    Photocopy as many of the original documents as you can before you come home.

    Best of luck , Nicholas

  81. DonnyDarko,
    Assad is of course a succinct example and probably one of the reasons Cameron has recently got his balls squeezed over Syria and the failed foreign intervention that now seems to have been aborted even though some mercenaries are being retained on foreign payrolls.
    Syria was saved from a ‘Libya NATO massacre’ by public insight, an awareness and communication this government wants to avoid in the future. In other words ‘keep the fucking masses’ chocked off by statute.
    The struggle is only just beginning!

  82. Clark, I’ve run the recovered file through a Hex editor and file analyzer, to no avail: there are no identifier strings. It may just be a RAM dump. I’d be surprised if that was the only candidate that Recuva produced.
    I’ve recovered numerous lost essays and dissertations, working on a university helpdesk for many years. The success rate was very high, except if the files were encrypted or the data sectors had been reallocated.
    There are options to provide tech support via remote desktop connections. (I’ve used LogMeIn and SimpleHelp). Some are browser-based, and don’t require installation.

  83. Nextus, thanks for trying that. Yes, I wish Craig would send more files. I think the chances of recovering the lost work are quite good, but it’s frustrating having no more files to work on.

  84. I think there’s a good chance that some earlier autosaved versions of the missing file are sitting safe and sound in Craig’s OO backup folder but they’ve become hidden since the crash. Well worth activating the “show hidden files” option to see what crops up.

  85. The first ten minutes of the BBC 6 O’Clock News were devoted to the glories of our Victory Over The Argies. Dreadful stuff. John Simpson and Caroline Wyatt playing it for all it was worth.
    This is the website version http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17580449 which takes top billing. Thatcher’s children live.

  86. Had a look at it – the size at any rate is consistent with one block of a zip file, but couldn’t achieve any more with it than Clark. Might be an idea to look for more files the same size. More thoughts here: (may not correspond with the W7 filesystem, but the princples probably apply)

  87. “The apathy of the sheeple is the most concerning of course.”

    Only outdone by the arrogance of those who know what is good for us imho.

  88. Hopefully some good news out of Syria lets hope this will calm the situation, let`s see some more good news please.

    Lets get working and providing….


  89. I seem to have got up your nose Anon.
    The apathy IS concerning. It will be too late one day soon as people will discover. Their liberties are under attack as are the services they have taken for granted like the NHS.

  90. Mary – you don’t get a point across to people by comparing them to farm animals.

  91. Agree, Anon. “Sheeple” has passed its sell-by in any case. Much over-used, and usually by people from whom I would rather distance myself (pervasive smell of campfires and old dope)

  92. I like this site but i hardly visit anymore.
    Seems to be too many spooks and infiltrators now.
    Shame really.
    Craig,its imperative you stop using your laptop befoe you wipe more stuff.Get a tech to look at it pronto and you should be fine.

  93. “They carry on posting on Facebook and Twitter without a care in the world or thought.”
    I don’t use Facebook. But there is a lot of activism organised on Twitter, along with sharing of good alternative sources/links. Twitter is as good as the people you choose to follow, and the material you post yourself.

  94. No personal experience of either canmpfires or old dope Komodo.
    In Aarhus, Denmark and not much reported in the UK, there has been this gathering of racist and fascist groups including the EDL.
    First All-Europe Racist/Fascist Gathering Overshadowed in Denmark
    by Ron Ridenour / April 2nd, 2012
    Ruling authorities confront the continuing crisis of capitalism by: 1) aiding the very firms that bankrupt the general economy by transferring workers’ taxes to the capitalist class; 2) decreasing the welfare state, throwing huge numbers out of jobs and onto the streets; 3) increasing state repression against those who resist, and by allowing the growth of racist and fascist civilian groups.

  95. The BBC reported it Mary, it was headline news last Sat morning. Norwegian Breivig supporters were interviewed and the tone in which it was reported was earnest, sombre, not as if the report was of terrorists. A front against the spread of Muslimisation of Europe was the theme in Aarhus, a matter of fact report we do not get proffered if there is an election in France Poland or Germany, the coverage was refering to the EDL’s interlectual policies, if you can call it that, being used to galvanise a European rightwing front.

    Muslims were warned not to attend under threats, unless they wanted their organisations banned, they should stay at home.
    The police had to protect a smallish gathering of about 1oo plus fascists from Europe. The EDL thought that this meeting would attarct thousands, but they stayed home, despite the overwhelming policing that kept them safe.

    They will continue to cause mischief, who knows they might even dare to stadn in elections, the main parties love to split the votes.

  96. Thanks Nevermind so they did. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17570464 Played up the theme of anti-islam I note.

  97. The gangsters in charge are now rolling out Assad’s uncle, aka the Butcher of Hama, to aid the propaganda campaign against Assad. Note Bowen#s fence-sitting.
    In 2011 Rifaat Assad was said to be in his £multi million luxurious mansion in Mayfair. Now he seems to be in the equivalent in Paris.

  98. Mark Golding, the video is disturbing. Zionists are responsible for most of the trouble in the world. They work, as well as through organisations like AIPAC (American Israeli Public Affairs Committee), Atlantic Bridge and Friends of Israel, at a lesser level among freemasons. Freemasonry is the mystical side of Judaism containing in its lore phrases like making ‘darkness visible’ and its ritual is a mockery of Christianity which, in the higher degrees, includes sexual acts in coffins, or so I am led to believe.
    One thing should be made clear, and isn’t always. There are many good Israelis who do not want war. Einstein was one such thinker. But the trouble is their Zionist masters do. I tried to blog on this back in January to make a distinction between the Zionist elite and ordinary Israelis.

  99. Conroy the photographer ex Libya and Syria and companion of the late Marie Colvin is named as a MI6 operative by Infowars Ireland. As if we didn’t guess that already!

    Bravely he joined the protestors recently in London where he was embraced by them.
    He has a website called Reflex TV. {http://reflextv.webeden.co.uk/}

  100. And this which is a cross post from Medialens.
    Michel Chossudovsky on top form: Free Syrian Army Foot-Soldiers of Western Military Alliance
    Posted by MikeD on April 3, 2012, 10:05 am
    Free Syrian Army Foot-Soldiers of Western Military Alliance
    RT video interview
    The international envoy to Syria tells the UN Security Council there’s no progress in implementing a ceasefire – while the ‘Friends of Syria’ group is criticised for undermining the UN-backed peace efforts. to To discuss the different approaches for settling the year-long conflict in Syria, RT joined live by Michel Chossudovsky, director of the Centre for Research on Globalization
    Chossudovsky told RT news of foreign funds for Syrian rebels is a “red herring.” He argues the Free Syrian Army has been financed by NATO “from the outset.”
    “The Free Syrian Army are the foot soldiers of the western military alliance, and they are advised by their foreign military handlers. We know that. We know there are Special Forces on the ground, that French military officers were arrested in late February. The thing was hushed up.And the forbidden truth is that the Western military alliance has been waging a covert war using the Free Syrian Army for more than a year now, and this free Syrian Army doesn’t represent anybody in Syria. There’s mounting evidence of atrocities.”

  101. John Goss,
    Such things no longer disturb me. As mentioned by me earlier in the thread and previously by Mary, it is public apathy towards the long, poisonous tentacles of Zionism and Islamaphobia that is disturbing. Especially the way they twist and weave their way into British society and British courts.
    I don’t get involved in folklore or religion and I have a lasting affection for my old Jewish boss, a wise man who taught me a great deal. Even he, I suspect, was compromised by an Israeli Zionist IT Guru heavily involved in the redevelopment of the British PAF codification. The many arms of Mossad are tightening their grip on society here in Britain as well as America.
    Scotland has shown there’s no place for Zionist meddling in the judiciary, England needs to follow suit.

  102. Mark, it is better not to get involved. Personal integrity is much more important than any imposed integrity, since it give the option to say no when something is not right.

  103. Abdul Jarndyce

    3 Apr, 2012 - 1:10 pm

    Let’s do everything poss. to stop even bigger threat to C’s data. And to everybody else’s.
    Just re-tweeted & signed:
    ‘RT @e3i5: Not sure how I feel about e-petitions but the one to stop #CCDP has got 4k+ signatures in just over a day’

  104. Abdul Jarndyce

    3 Apr, 2012 - 1:17 pm

  105. Abdul Jarndyce

    3 Apr, 2012 - 1:50 pm

    China? Nein danke!
    Also Open Rights Group petition—with 13k+ signatures so far:

  106. Oh that is a disaster. That’s why I still make all my research notes by hand, or take the odd xerox copy of a page or two.

  107. Dr Paul, let’s not count Craig’s vultures before they’ve hatched. I think that there is still a good chance of recovering or reconstructing the lost file.

  108. Canada’s “Dreyfus Affair”. Canada’s Minister of Justice Rob Nicholson is to make a decision on April 18 whether to extradite Canadian sociolgy prof. Dr. Hassan Diab to France to face terrorism charges stemming from a Paris bombing incident in 1980. The main evidence against Dr. Diab presented in extradition proceedings by the French authorities is a handwriting analysis based on 5 words printed in block letters on a 1980 Paris hotel registration form and seems tenuous at best:
    How it Started
    In October 2007, a reporter from the French daily newspaper Le Figaro approached Hassan after his class at the University of Ottawa. The reporter asked Hassan if he was aware that the French authorities believed he was responsible for the 1980 Paris attack. Hassan was astonished by the reporter’s question and denied any responsibility, stating that any connection to the attack must be purely coincidental, since “Hassan Diab” is a common name.
    Thereafter, Hassan noticed that unidentified agents were following him, and someone attempted to break into his residence. He reported these incidents to the Ottawa police, but the intimidating and intrusive surveillance persisted.
    In spite of this, Hassan remained in Canada and continued his normal activities, including teaching at the University of Ottawa and Carleton University. Later, Hassan learned that the agents who were following him were from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP).
    The Arrest
    On November 13, 2008, the RCMP arrested Hassan in response to a request by France. He was initially denied bail and placed in detention.
    Family members, friends, colleagues, and mentors who have known Hassan for many years are completely shocked by the French allegations. They affirm that Dr. Hassan Diab is a peaceful, hardworking, and dedicated academic who has never expressed radical or anti-Semitic views, and who has never been affiliated with a political organization.
    According to the Crown Prosecutor, handwriting analysis submitted by French authorities is the “smoking gun” in the case. The analysis links Hassan to five words printed in basic block letters on a Paris hotel registration card in 1980 by the presumed bomber.
    The judge at Hassan’s extradition hearing said that he found the French handwriting report “very problematic”, “very confusing”, and with “suspect conclusions”. The judge likened handwriting analysis to “pseudo-science”, and found merit in the defense argument that the flawed methodology used in the French handwriting analysis results in manifestly unreliable conclusions. Nevertheless, he ruled that Canada’s extradition law does not permit him to apply Canadian standards of evidence admissibility to foreign evidence.
    More at: http://www.justiceforhassandiab.org/about

  109. Never did much like Frankie Boyle.Always sounds like he is provoking a fight and the choice of language is bloody awful.
    Well, he picked a fight with the Zionist propoganda machine the BBC and he was disappeared off their airwaves.
    After reading his response I like him alot more.

  110. Bigger petition (36,000 +) against government snooping here:
    Thanks for signing

  111. technicolour

    3 Apr, 2012 - 4:45 pm

    Fine to sign petitions but *get in touch with your MP* and empower them to stand up on your and our behalf, I think. It can work. They need our courage.

  112. No good asking mine Technicolour. She is a junior minister and follows the partei line religiously. I write and receive anodyne replies by post on expensive water marked stationery in an embossed HoC 1st Class envelope. I write by e-mail of course.
    Nearly 40,000 now on 38 Degrees Mark.
    I hear James Murdoch has resigned as Chair of BSkyB. All ready for Hunt to pass the Newscorp or News Int’l takeover.

  113. Jives,
    Seems to be too many spooks and infiltrators now
    Can you elaborate on this?

  114. technicolour

    3 Apr, 2012 - 6:17 pm

    That’s a shame, Mary, but with a lot of the people in Parliament there is still a valid point. Also not sure if it’s a question of ‘asking': rather, demanding politely.

  115. “The Best Day of your Life” – Adam Bolton – Sky News – talking to George Galloway.
    George, in his unique confident way, finally touched on the absurd, senseless and inhumane war in Afghanistan, a war that has cost us ‘treasure’ and loss of life of our young people, most barely eighteen.
    In a raft of senseless questions Mr Bolton shines a light on the prejudiced, contaminated bias of the MSM. An insipid odor can be detected in the preceding inquisition by Bolton designed to lead George into quicksand. This was the flavor…
    Did you win because you exploited ethnic tensions?
    Are you a Muslim?
    Why did you draw attention to NOT supporting gambling or drinking?
    You have never had a drop of alcohol in your life?
    Are you a Christian?
    Do you regret? [being on Big Brother]

  116. The Medialens’ editors cover the attempted demonization of GG by the media.
    When Populism Is Dangerous For Democracy – To The Media Gallows With ‘Controversial’ George Galloway – The Editors Today, 3:53 pm

  117. Buckingham’s banker mate walks…
    Note the military connection. Heritage is reporting success with its Kurdistan operation while Iraq remains a shambles. Eggs, omelettes, etc.

  118. In the above article, Mick Davis, currently merging overhyped conglomerate Glencore with vast global mining consortium Xstrata, pledges Hannam his full support. Well, he would. It’s like a great big cuddly family, isn’t it?
    Memory lane…
    “In July 2009 Conservative Party Treasurers Howard Leigh and Stanley Fink joined the (Jewish Leadership -K) Council as individual members. At the same meeting Mr Mick Davis, Chairman of U(nited) J(ewish) I(srael) A(ppeal) was appointed as the first Chairman of the Council’s Executive Committee…” (Wiki)
    Following the recent corrupt practices in misunderstanding about Party funding, (Sir) Stanley Fink is now once again the Tory treasurer.

  119. No good asking mine Technicolour. He was the Deputy Speaker and follows the partei line religiously. I write and receive anodyne replies by post on expensive water marked stationery in an embossed HoC 1st Class envelope. I write by e-mail of course.
    Er, sorry, Mary, didn’t you just write something like that?
    But Technicolour, yes, it is worth writing, and more people writing more often, making moral and logical arguments applies more pressure.
    It’s also worth informing your MP of the things you know that the media rather you didn’t. It’s the same skill as submitting a good comment; back up your argument by citing sound evidence. Much political sleaze relies upon widespread public ignorance. Well informed letters or e-mails to MPs undermine the power of the mainstream media. The more of us that inform our MPs of a given issue, the harder it becomes for them to claim ignorance of that matter later. Written communication creates an irrefutable evidence trail. MPs know that, so our communications ought to constrain their actions to some extent.
    The anodyne replies on ridiculously expensive stationery are completely off-putting. Probably designed to be.

  120. Soon control of what we say, what websites we visit, what we type on our computers, who we communicate with and now even our freedom to travel to certain places is going to be taken out of our hands.

  121. technicolour

    3 Apr, 2012 - 9:39 pm

    Everyone & Komodo: yes. it’s either pressure or (as representatives at the G8 have found) necessary empowerment. How are they meant to stand up for us if we don’t give them the courage and belief (and facts) and personal engagement to do so?

  122. technicolour

    3 Apr, 2012 - 9:59 pm

    Why would you not contact your MP, face to face? That is what we pay for, after all. Why is it better to sign a petition?

  123. Even further o/t:
    Bullingdon Boris Shows True Colours…
    Arrogant, mendacious prick.

  124. Technicolour, demonstrations, petitions, letters, face to face meetings; I think they all help. People may cynically argue that such actions achieve nothing, but we don’t know how much worse things might be without them. But Nevermind and others also have a point. Government tactics have changed, kettling is routinely used to make demonstration less attractive. Multiple smaller local actions would be more difficult for the authorities to interfere with, with lower transport costs for the demonstrators and the environment.

  125. Re. the unavailable MP…anyone here ever been to Middlesbrough? Leafy suburb it ain’t.

  126. Komodo,
    Was that a rhetorical question?
    Middlesbrough is a pretty progressive cosmopolitan haven compared to some of the other places up north .
    However kitchen. heat, stand etc. or get out sort of.

  127. Arthur Finsbury

    4 Apr, 2012 - 12:16 am

    @ John Goss who says: “There are many good Israelis who do not want war. Einstein was one such thinker. But the trouble is their Zionist masters do. I tried to blog on this back in January to make a distinction between the Zionist elite and ordinary Israelis.”
    If you mean Albert Einstein, the infamous author of E=Mc2, then I don’t think he was an Israeli.
    I agree though, the Zionist Elite are little to do with ordinary Israelis or Jews. Most of Zionist Elite aren’t even Jews. They are Europeans to central Asians

  128. wonder what will come of this, reported by Italian AGI on 2 April?

    Merah family lawyer claims ‘Toulouse Killer’ dispatched
    (AGI) Algiers – According to a Merah family lawyer, Zahia Moktari, the Toulouse killer was intentionally killed by French police. Acting on behalf of Mohamed Merah’s father, the lawyer held a press conference in Algiers today claimed to be in possession of two separate 20-minute video recordings of the French special forces raid, in which Merah is clearly heard saying “Why are you killing me? I am innocent.” The lawyer went on to claim having received the footage from “persons directly involved in the events, wishing to have the truth come out.” Moktari went on to claim that “Merah was manipulated and used in several French secret services operations and subsequently dispatched in order to avoid letting the truth out.” The lawyer also said she would be informing French justice officials of the names of three persons involved in the cover-up, namely “a French secret service official and two other persons, of different nationalities, who also worked with Mohammed Merah.” …

  129. George Galloway puts the condescending Carole Walker straight on Afghanistan. ‘It’s not a mission, it’s a war.’
    George Galloway: Why I won’t condemn attacks on UK soldiers in Afghanistan 1’52”
    He was also on Newsnight last night but I did not see it. Probably more of ‘When did you stop beating your wife Mr Galloway?’ stuff from Paxman.

  130. Clegg is fighting the move to allow secret court hearings and secret inquests. Best of British luck. Someone has said he is like the battered wife who stays with the abuser because she thinks she can change him. I think he is hanging on to what he believes is power. He has just kicked off the LD campaign for local elections. It will be a wipeout for them.
    4 April 2012
    Clegg signals disquiet over secret court hearings
    Nick Clegg does not want ministers to have power over secret hearings
    Related Stories
    Clarke defends ‘secret justice’
    Hague backs closed court hearings
    Nick Clegg has signalled opposition to parts of the government’s plans for secret trials in some civil cases involving national security.
    The deputy prime minister has written to the National Security Council saying that judges – not ministers – should decide what should be kept private.
    His move coincides with a report from the Joint Committee on Human Rights which strongly criticised the plans.
    Ministers say closed hearings are needed to protect national security.
    Mr Clegg has also said that he believes no inquests should be held in private.

    Details of his opposition to government plans first emerged in the Daily Mail.

  131. I have just looked up the BBC reporter Carole Walker and see she went to a Norfolk school which combined with the one that Craig attended to form Paston College. Craig is in the list of notable alumni.

  132. What a friend once told me…

    Theres a natural order in the world and its all out of your control, stopping worrying about it it is not good for you.

    Oliver Cromwell Paid Zionist.

  133. Thanks for that oddie, It makes you wonder what merah was up to in Israel, before he was arrested for carrying a knife.

    Looks like Nicaragua will soon allow a Chinese military base on its territory, this onesided militarisation will inevitably end up in a tit for tat moment.
    Those Aussies have not much spine left to consistently elect these war loving rightwingers.

  134. Barry Mackenzie and the wild colonial boys are long gone Nevermind. They have been replaced by the likes of Ms Gillard and Mr Rudd both of whom have paid homage to Israel.

  135. Exapropriation and creeping genocide marks these Apartheid policies against Nomads who for hundreds if not over a thousand years have lived of barren lands. Since 1948 they have been kept like zoo animlas and pushed from pillar to post, now the final solution to their lifes has been spelled out. Ehud Prawer, repent, Easter is as good a time for it than any.


  136. technicolour

    4 Apr, 2012 - 11:33 am

    Clark: yes, I think it’s quite important to remember that MPs are people (!) Also, often, overworked, harassed, blackmailed people without the time or necessarily the ability to research and deconstruct, or the courage to act. The more information and encouragement they have from their constituents the better, I think.

    Otherwise, Mary, did Clark’s comment mean that you have changed MPs? Have you ever spoken to either of them?

  137. Technicolour I wrote that mine is a junior minister and follows the party line and yes have spoken.

  138. Technicolour, I just quoted Mary’s comment because my experience with my MP seemed so similar to hers. I haven’t met my MP; I lack sufficient self-confidence. Most people I meet have a more mainstream view of current affairs than me, and away from the Internet my voice seems so isolated as to be easily ridiculed or dismissed. Some of the comments directed at me here, such as being described as part of “the spartist debating society at the University of Billy No Mates” help to deepen my insecurity. Nevermind is right; Internet activism is all very well, but people should also meet up in person.

  139. Clark – just about everyone I speak to is pissed off with the wars, the government, prices, the bankers, etc, etc. Your voice is not isolated. You’re just meeting the wrong people. And so, evidently, are our MP’s.
    Fedup. not sure what duelling banjos have to do with urban blight, oop north or elsewhere in the UK. Hartlepool is my favourite, but no doubt you have other ideas. (eg Methil on a wet day or Rochdale?)

  140. technicolour

    4 Apr, 2012 - 1:23 pm

    Well, Clark, they deepen my insecurity too, or would if I tried to make sense of them, since the idea that you can debate on your own is obviously nonsensical.

    As for your voice being isolated, you could maybe try looking at the Guardian today – the howls of outrage from perfectly mainstream Guardian readers under the pieces on civil liberties and Clegg are making me feel moderate :)

    Thanks Mary – was confused! My MP seems to like being contacted, if it’s any help. And it is their job to listen to you, not to follow the party line.

  141. Technicolour, “And it is their job to listen to you, not to follow the party line.” – theoretically, but their corporate perks outweigh their public salary, and they’re likely to lose both if they don’t tow the line.

  142. …oh, and the “Spartist University” jibe was a standard troll offering. Trolls exist to try to make people feel bad about themselves. It’s what they do. They don’t get out enough, because in the real world their approach to life invites the application of a baseball bat by complete strangers. And they’re not very big. Trolls are best ignored completely, but can occasionally be entertaining in the right hands. (The left hands maintaining their grip on the baseball bat).

  143. Suppose all affiliations with other MP’s were banned, and that an MP could recieve no income whatever (cash or kind, present or deferred) in addition to his State salary and pension? This would seem to be the only way to ensure that MP’s serve their constituents.

  144. Komodo, “You’re just meeting the wrong people.” – Yes, I live near the Thames estuary. And yes, I wondered about Fedup’s Dueling Banjos too…
    More seriously, in a sense I’m meeting the right people, the people who need a broader news-base. But without occasional back-up maybe I’m just wasting my breath and deepening my isolation.

  145. technicolour

    4 Apr, 2012 - 1:55 pm

    Totally even off topicer (perhaps) but have just asked these questions on CiF (not usually on it; first time in months) Does anyone know the answers? The discussion was about what would happen if the Lib Dems stopped supporting the Tories, obviously.

    Quoting martford: “a minority Tory Govt would have had to go back to the polls within weeks – the outcome of that was widely predicted as a Tory majority…..so threfore a case of being careful what you wish for…”

    Not attacking, just asking:

    1. Why would a minority Tory government have to go back to the polls within weeks?

    2. I know that everyone predicted that if that did happen, the Tories would return with a majority, but mainly people explained this by saying that the Lib Dems could not afford to fight a second election (true) so that presumably Lib Dem voters would switch to their local Tory instead. But in fact, does anyone actually think they would? Why would people not have voted Green or Independent instead, or even for one of the few decent Labour candidates? And surely they are now far more likely to take that road instead?

  146. Komodo: “Suppose all affiliations with other MP’s were banned, and that an MP could recieve no income whatever (cash or kind, present or deferred) in addition to his State salary and pension?” – Yes, but how would we get our MPs to vote for that? Illusory democracy is so much more robust than honest dictatorship.

  147. Guess for Q1: A vote of No Confidence?
    Observation for Q2: Isn’t Boris Johnson leading in the London Mayor contest? On the other hand, there is George Galloway’s election. North/South divide?

  148. Technicolour, I don’t worry too much about “off-topic”, not when we’re scores of comments down, or on a highly specific thread. Both are the case here; many contributors would have little to add to this thread, originally about file recovery. I do object if one particular contributor attempts to divert multiple threads onto one, highly emotive topic by using consistently inflammatory language (i.e. tries to start fights), or where a closely argued debate on a particular thread would be diluted.

  149. Clark Do not despair. You are not isolated and have a voice that is valuable to ALL of us with one or two exceptions! Take no notice of the puerile ad hominems. I was once told on Dissident Voice by a troll (when DV took comments) that ‘they’ knew who I was and where I lived. It was disconcerting to say the least to be told this although it was probably fiction.

    How about Network Rail being fined £4m here? It’s our money being paid out by one Government dept to the Treasury. What nonsense. It would be more appropriate if the directors and the managers responsible for the lack of maintenance on those points at Grayrigg to perform many hours of community service whilst showing their identities.

    Grayrigg crash: Network Rail fined £4m over death
    The train derailed while travelling over the points at 92mph
    Network Rail has been fined £4m over the Grayrigg crash in Cumbria in which a woman died and more than 80 people were hurt.

    Margaret Masson, 84, from Glasgow, died after the Virgin train derailed on the West Coast Main Line in February 2007.

    The train went over a “degraded” set of points at 92mph and careered down an embankment, leaving 88 people injured, including two train crew members.

    Network Rail admitted health and safety breaches.

    Network Rail Infrastructure Ltd admitted a charge under section 3(1) of the 1974 Health and Safety at Work Act last month and was sentenced at Preston Crown Court.

    Speaking after sentencing. Network Rail chief executive David Higgins described it as a “terrible event”.

    He said: “Within hours it was clear that the infrastructure was at fault and we accepted responsibility, so it is right that we have been fined.

    “Nothing we can say or do will lessen the pain felt by Mrs Masson’s family but we will make the railways safer and strive to prevent such an accident ever happening again.

    “We have learnt from the accident, determined to recognise what we got wrong and put it right.”

  150. The EDP Archant has pronounced an easter break to blogging on their pages, have you ever heard of that :) Maybe they’ll be dragging the cross to north Walsham. Maybe they want to close comments during the local elections down, they always get in a flap, itsd like a bad rash.

    to Q1, agree with Clark, a motion of no confidence, which still allows the LibDem MP’s to support their Tory masters, would be put. If a break up is acrimonious due to a bad local election result, such support would most likely not occur and a vote of no confidence could be successfull, on follows a a speedy election.
    The question has to be raised is, how well prepared are parties for a GE? baring in mind that the election costs rows and lobby costs, etc. is all not sorted or regulated, so, unless voters switched off to all messages and voted for underdogs, those with most financial support would most likely shine through. The next election will be very important for all the issues we value and the principles that are under threat. I very much hope that this blog will suffer from lack of support during that time, because we’ll be at it, out there.

    I don’t know whether to comment on the old London mayoral slanging match, where no other candidate can fire up the voters so it seems, a reoccuring media exercise, vodoo like spreading more apathy, jeering up London’s multicultural voters with simple guffs, hairy chests at dawn vs. the taxman cometh.

    If there is a war situation occuring, then a GE could be postponed, keeping the Government of the day in power until further notice, afaik, others know better than me as to what circumstances have to be in place for elections to be postponed.

    yes indeed Clark, meeting those one converses with online, is taking conversation online to a new level, its like meeting the bees who make our honey. July would be my prefered month.

  151. Thanks, Mary. Crab got the online “We Know Where You Live” threat, too.
    “Within hours it was clear that the infrastructure was at fault…” It would have been clear for months before if proper procedures had been followed, but that eats into profits and, therefore, bonuses. Spinning so much it makes me feel sick.
    Nevermind, I second your suggestion. Who’s in favour of a conference in July?

  152. Billy fourteen pints presenting his cut down version of consular support, as per usual format has taken up the high ground reeling off anecdotes about the silly Britons who seek such a help;
    A- a Brit in Greece failing to erect his hen house,
    B- Another ringing to request a coin to be thrown into a wishing well in Rome.
    C- Brits ringing to complain about ants in their apartments, and not managing to get a restaurant booking for their Christmas dinner, to needing a dog minder.
    All examples of puerile and indulgent morons in need of social workers, and not the weighty FOC. However, Billy fourteen pints left out the inaction of FOC in case of the two journalists who worked for Press TV and were detained in Libya under the charges of espionage, presumably because they worked for Press TV, and there was a need to send a strong message to everyone: not to collaborate with foreign news organizations, as Sun readers unanimously agreed on the issue too, the whole three of them in the comments section, inclusive of a Syd James character.
    The classic tactic of assailing the nation before screwing it, is a well rehearsed protocol which puts pay to the offer of the cigarette post the screw, the bankers need subsidies, and not the silly bastard with a mashed brain who was mugged and kicked the seven bells out of in a foreign country and has no idea who is he? Never mind where is Billy fourteen pints and his band of merry men?

    William Hague criticises ‘time-wasting’ Britons abroad

  153. I visited a Bedouin camp once on the outskirts of Beer Sheva.An Israeli friend from that town took me and my girlfriend. It was quite an experience. They got on with the people of the town. And my friend always said you could buy anything in the Bedouin camp.
    The Bedouin are the only true Semites left in Israel.
    Now what does that make the IDF ?

    komodo , BTW, Methil used to be some place.Then they closed the pits, and after that the docks, the East dock Bar followed, the Wonder Store closed ,then they moved the football ground, and just recently they knocked down the power station.It’s no longer a blot on the landscape.

  154. technicolour

    4 Apr, 2012 - 5:49 pm

    “If there is a war situation occuring, then a GE could be postponed, keeping the Government of the day in power until further notice, afaik, others know better than me as to what circumstances have to be in place for elections to be postponed.”


    Didn’t they already make sure that an early election can’t be called?

    Otherwise not sure that Boris Johnson is really representative of anything, so do not think his possible re-election is sign of a trend. Think the country will kick out, and the sooner the better.

    Otherwise, thanks Clark!

  155. This company is not dealing very well with the loss of electricity to thousands of homes in the North due to a sudden snowstorm and high winds. One lady seeking information said that she was on hold for a long time and then got disconnected. I suppose that in the ‘good old days’, the responsibility to maintain supply would have been down to the local electricity board who, in emergencies like this, were able to call in staff from other boards to assist.
    ‘Northern Powergrid is a wholly owned subsidiary of MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company; a leader in the supply and distribution of energy in the U.K. and U.S. consumer markets, with approximately 6.9 million electricity and gas customers. MidAmerican is also a global leader in the production of energy from diversified fuel sources including geothermal, natural gas, hydroelectric, nuclear, coal and wind.
    Northern Powergrid is a Distribution Network Operator (DNO), operating through its subsidiary companies, Northern Powergrid (Northeast) Ltd and Northern Powergrid (Yorkshire) plc, which delivers electricity to 3.8 million customers in the Northeast of England, Yorkshire and North Lincolnshire.
    Integrated Utility Services (IUS) is a subsidiary of Northern Powergrid and operates independently of the distribution business. IUS provides engineering resources, including strategic and technical design of electrical distribution systems, through to construction, installation and commissioning of assets for all system voltages up to 132kV.’
    MidWestern is owned by MidAmerican Energy Holdings which is owned by Berkshire Hathaway, the Warren Buffet own all whose total revenue is US$ 143.688 billion.
    Mr Gregory Abel is in overall charge in DesMoines, Iowa!{http://www.midamerican.com/aboutus3.aspx}

    These changes were all slipped through probably without anyone knowing or caring about them. Local to me and over a wide area, UK Power Networks maintain the electricity power supply. That is a subsidiary of a Hong Kong multinational run by the son of Sir Ka-shing Li, GBM, KBE, JP (born 13 June 1928 in Chaozhou, China is a Hong Kong based business magnate. He is the richest person of Asian descent in the world and the ninth richest person in the world with an estimated wealth of US$ 25.5 billion as of 2012. Presently, he is the Chairman of Hutchison Whampoa Limited (HWL) and Cheung Kong Holdings; through them, he is the world’s largest operator of container terminals and the world’s largest health and beauty retailer.
    Wonderful isn’t it.


  156. Donny, I never saw Methil in its heyday, and fully understand how it reached its present state, like most other pit towns in the country. Apologies if I trod on a toe. But I’m sorry they’ve knocked down the power station. Oddly enough I rather liked its style. I’d hoped they’d get something alternative-energy based going there….but having had an interview with the local business-start-up-for-optimists advisory suit, I’m not surprised they didn’t. His one success was a local artist he had advised who when last heard of had sold some paintings…he didn’t do technology, and he didn’t do helpful. Methil deserves a lot better.

  157. Breaking: Gunther Grass stands up to be counted –
    “Why do I only say now, aged and with my last ink: the atomic power Israel is endangering the already fragile world peace?” reads the poem, which appeared in the daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung on Wednesday.
    Grass answers that Nazi Germany’s “incomparable” crimes against Jews and his own fear of accusations of anti-Semitism kept him from openly criticising Israel.
    But now, “tomorrow could already be too late” and Germany could become a “supplier to a crime”, Grass wrote, referring to a deal sealed last month for Berlin to sell Israel a sixth nuclear-capable Dolphin-class submarine.
    “I admit: I will be silent no longer, because I am sick of the hypocrisy of the West”.


  158. .
    David Cameron defends secret courts and web monitoring plans
    David Cameron: “It is the job of the prime minister to make sure we do everything that is necessary to keep our country safe”
    David Cameron has said “gaps” in national security must be plugged as he defended plans for more secret court hearings and more internet monitoring. It follows concerns raised by Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg and others about civil liberties implications. Mr Clegg said allowing ministers, not judges, to order court proceedings to be held in secret went too far.
    The prime minister said there was still time “to deal with everybody’s concerns” before firming up the plans.
    Proposals have been put forward to allow sensitive intelligence information to be heard in secret by a judge and “special advocates” in civil cases brought against the government.

  159. Was gesagt werden muss

    Warum schweige ich, verschweige zu lange,
    was offensichtlich ist und in Planspielen
    geübt wurde, an deren Ende als Überlebende
    wir allenfalls Fußnoten sind.

    Es ist das behauptete Recht auf den Erstschlag,
    der das von einem Maulhelden unterjochte
    und zum organisierten Jubel gelenkte
    iranische Volk auslöschen könnte,
    weil in dessen Machtbereich der Bau
    einer Atombombe vermutet wird.

    Doch warum untersage ich mir,
    jenes andere Land beim Namen zu nennen,
    in dem seit Jahren – wenn auch geheimgehalten –
    ein wachsend nukleares Potential verfügbar
    aber außer Kontrolle, weil keiner Prüfung
    zugänglich ist?

    Das allgemeine Verschweigen dieses Tatbestandes,
    dem sich mein Schweigen untergeordnet hat,
    empfinde ich als belastende Lüge
    und Zwang, der Strafe in Aussicht stellt,
    sobald er mißachtet wird;
    das Verdikt “Antisemitismus” ist geläufig.

    Jetzt aber, weil aus meinem Land,
    das von ureigenen Verbrechen,
    die ohne Vergleich sind,
    Mal um Mal eingeholt und zur Rede gestellt wird,
    wiederum und rein geschäftsmäßig, wenn auch
    mit flinker Lippe als Wiedergutmachung deklariert,
    ein weiteres U-Boot nach Israel
    geliefert werden soll, dessen Spezialität
    darin besteht, allesvernichtende Sprengköpfe
    dorthin lenken zu können, wo die Existenz
    einer einzigen Atombombe unbewiesen ist,
    doch als Befürchtung von Beweiskraft sein will,
    sage ich, was gesagt werden muß.

    Warum aber schwieg ich bislang?
    Weil ich meinte, meine Herkunft,
    die von nie zu tilgendem Makel behaftet ist,
    verbiete, diese Tatsache als ausgesprochene Wahrheit
    dem Land Israel, dem ich verbunden bin
    und bleiben will, zuzumuten.

    Warum sage ich jetzt erst,
    gealtert und mit letzter Tinte:
    Die Atommacht Israel gefährdet
    den ohnehin brüchigen Weltfrieden?
    Weil gesagt werden muß,
    was schon morgen zu spät sein könnte;
    auch weil wir – als Deutsche belastet genug –
    Zulieferer eines Verbrechens werden könnten,
    das voraussehbar ist, weshalb unsere Mitschuld
    durch keine der üblichen Ausreden
    zu tilgen wäre.

    Und zugegeben: ich schweige nicht mehr,
    weil ich der Heuchelei des Westens
    überdrüssig bin; zudem ist zu hoffen,
    es mögen sich viele vom Schweigen befreien,
    den Verursacher der erkennbaren Gefahr
    zum Verzicht auf Gewalt auffordern und
    gleichfalls darauf bestehen,
    daß eine unbehinderte und permanente Kontrolle
    des israelischen atomaren Potentials
    und der iranischen Atomanlagen
    durch eine internationale Instanz
    von den Regierungen beider Länder zugelassen wird.

    Nur so ist allen, den Israelis und Palästinensern,
    mehr noch, allen Menschen, die in dieser
    vom Wahn okkupierten Region
    dicht bei dicht verfeindet leben
    und letztlich auch uns zu helfen.
    Günter Grass, 2012

  160. I hope Nevermind will provide a translation :-)
    But meanwhile, I gather “schweigen” means much more than “to be quiet”
    As Pope Boniface VIII (1235–1303) said: „Qui tacet, consentire videtur.“ (Wer schweigt, scheint zuzustimmen. Or, ” He who is silent is seen to consent”)
    And Hobbes concurs:
    “11. Silence in them that think it will be so taken, is a sign of consent; for so little labour being required to say No, it is to be presumed, that in this case he that saith it not, consenteth.”
    The Elements of Law Natural and Politic by Thomas Hobbes (Chapter XIII)

  161. Thanks Komodo. I had not heard of Günter Grass’s poem. Here is some background. I cannot find a translation.

  162. So kind of the shills for war, the BBC and Alastair Leithead, to give us chapter and verse on drone warfare. Do they a kick out of producing this stuff and feeding the people with this propaganda?
    5 April 2012
    Inside America’s Drone HQ
    Alastair Leithead

    BBC News, New Mexico
    Unmanned aircraft are the new cornerstone of modern military operations, and both American and British crews are learning to fly them at a New Mexico Air Force base. There, they must tackle the practical questions of what it means to wage war from afar.
    How about this phrase ‘contentious areas’?

    ‘These unmanned aircraft have the ability to fly above contentious areas, taking and relaying surveillance photos. The most controversial drones have the ability to launch an attack via onboard weapons.’

  163. Contentious areas ..

    Lets have a drone over the rainforrest please.
    Or an underwater drone looking at the fish stocks

    Or closer to home thecongestion and traffic us muppets have to endure.

    We are turning our island into a ghetto.

  164. Water, water, everywhere… There is enough to drink but no hosepipe use. £1,000 fine if you do. Water companies continue to waste it in leaking pipes and their directors continue to stuff their wallets.
    Hosed down with millions! As hosepipe ban begins, how water bosses have pocketed huge bonuses and handed shareholders massive payouts
    Three executives at Thames Water, Britain’s biggest water supplier, were handed £2m in bonuses
    Anglian paid out £1m and Southern Water dished out £400,000 – despite failing to meet their leakage targets
    Water companies also gave a staggering £500m to their shareholders
    This is despite 300m gallons of water lost every day and many companies failing to meet their leakage targets

  165. schweigen means more than being quiet, stumm is another word for it, an intentional quiet so to speak. Its a long poem and i got to do something today, the sun is out, but I shall do it later.

    Meanwhile if you like, send it through one of these machines who do it for us, should be fun.

    Its an excellent and very powerfull poem, my sincere thanks to Guenther Grass for taking his principles before profits this time, he should have said something much earlier on, but when you sell books, you sometimes have to supp with the devil, or drink copious amonts of expensive wine… isn’t that right Craig.

    Hope you’ve found your files again.

    Mary this cornerstone of our future western defense is basically unrestricted, unlawfull, unregulated and unreal. Drones will break the UN’s already besmudged back, pull out the few strings of spine that are left and leave on orifice of carcass standing for all to see.

    Drones are illegal and have kiled as many innocent people as so called precision bombing, their breaches of sovereignty should allow us to confiscate them, theoretically.

    As for thwe snooping laws. If we have serious doubts about MP’s and civil servants, should we not equally be allowed to view all of their rivate emails and missives? With so my psychopathic fervour driving this coalition and their friends in high finance, should the ordinary citizen not be allowed to use the same legisaltion to find out what Government does? How they conduct their business? etc.
    BTW. Over the last two weeks, bar yesterday, we have seen just about every formation flown, high altitude attacks, dog fighting and low level bombing raids here in Norfolk, whatever they are planning for, its getting furious up there.

  166. I’ve been pondering”drone”; is it the noise it makes, or is it a reference to its general pointlessness – only one drone gets to inseminate the queen – or perhaps it’s a comment on its parasitic nature – don’t the workers have to feed it?

    Whatever – it’s a good word the describe an abomination; the opposite of everything healthy and life-affirming and a dreadful example of the way that bright minds and human endeavour have been distorted to serve evil purposes.

    A worthwhile thought for the day for a change today: a reversal of the old order symbolised by the foot washing ritual. Oh if only …….

  167. The swelling chorus of complaint from the holocaust industry does not fail to mention that Grass was a member of the Waffen SS during the war. He was, as he himself acknowledged. The facts:
    At the age of 17, in November 1944, having been turned down for service in U-boats (by this stage in the war, these had experienced heavy losses and had ceased to be a major factor in German strategy), he was conscripted into the 10th SS Panzer Division. As a youth of military age during a period of national crisis, his alternatives were limited to being shot.
    The unit, though having originally been formed, like other SS units, with an eye to the Aryan supremacist myth, was by this stage in the war dependent on conscripts and personnel transferred from other branches of the military. Grass was a tank gunner. The Frundsberg Division fought on both the Western and Eastern fronts during Grass’s 6 months’ service. It was not involved in atrocities – it was too busy fighting. Grass was wounded by Soviet shellfire in Pomerania, and was transferred to a field hospital near Marienbad, which was then overrun by US forces. He wound up in the same PoW camp as the present Pope Benedict…
    Mere membership of the Waffen SS is not enough to qualify a man for the obloquy of the ages. Many, like Grass, were conscripted members of fighting units wholly engaged in the desperate defence of their country, and deserters were hanged or shot. They were not to blame, and should not be held guilty by association with others.

  168. “If we have serious doubts about MP’s and civil servants, should we not equally be allowed to view all of their private emails and missives? … should the ordinary citizen not be allowed to use the same legisaltion to find out what Government does? How they conduct their business? etc.”
    Good point, Nevermind.
    It becomes harder and harder to explain to Johnny Brown-Foreigner that we British enjoy a superior level of freedom and democracy, manage to organise ourselves without secret police and torture, and are better informed by our impartial media than he is. I cannot imagine why.

  169. Mary: “Do they a kick out of producing this stuff and feeding the people with this propaganda?” – Marshall McLuhan’s analogy seems to fit quite well: “If you could ask a fish what was the most obvious feature of its environment, probably the last thing it would say would be ‘water.'”
    The people that produce propaganda are immersed in it themselves. It’s “confirmation bias” on a large scale. Do they “get a kick” out of it? Well, sort of. Many of them probably believe, to varying degrees, that “our” forces really are “fighting the good fight” to “keep us safe”, so the constant litany of superior fire-power is probably comforting.
    Xenophobia, islamophobia, racism; examined on a large scale, these are prejudices within society, but the “atoms” of which they’re composed exist at the scale of individuals. How are people to notice their own prejudice when nearly all their colleagues carry similar bias? Like atoms in magnetised iron, they all align in roughly the same direction, but the magnetic field that coordinates them is itself a product of their coordination.

  170. Nevermind, again,
    It’s almost as hard to make sense of a computer translation as it is of the German. And I only have a few words of German. I’ve had a go at the first few lines, sentence by sentence, and I would be interested to know if this resembles what Grass wrote in any way. I’ve played with it a bit because he’s relying on the language to supply his emphases and that doesn’t translate well.
    What Must Be Said
    “Why be silent?
    I’ve kept stumm too long.
    It’s obvious, it’s been rehearsed,
    and at best we will survive as footnotes.
    It’s the “right” to a first strike:
    to quench Iran’s people,
    (subordinated to loud bullies,
    their very celebrations organised),
    because – somewhere – it is thought
    they are building a nuclear bomb…”

  171. MikeD puts my thoughts into words. I think I read that he had been ‘water boarded’ 260 times. And that his mind has been broken by the barbarians. His Wikipedia account is long and biased. Read his confessions. Most or all bullshit. Treated as the Zionist entity treats thousands and thousands of Palestinians except for the waterboarding as far as I know.
    Man Who Was Waterboarded 183 Times, Confesses Complete Responsibility for 9/11 and Will Be Executed.
    Posted by MikeD on April 5, 2012, 8:35 am

    It was reported on BBC News tonight that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four others will be charged with orchestrating the September 11 attacks.
    What the report omitted to say was that many sources, including the New York Times (could any institution be less anti-establishment?), reported in April 2009 that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had been waterboarded 183 times in Guantanano Bay.
    The BBC report went on to say, rather comically in the circumstances, was that “Khalid Sheikh Mohammed admits everything relating to the 9/11 attacks from A to Z.”
    I like to think that this blog specialises in stating the obvious but here is something SO obvious that it does not need stating.
    How long will we and our useless, zombified representatives continue to put up with this stuff?
    Full confessions. No jury. We can expect one or perhaps two of the defendants to be given light sentences to project (laughably) an impression of fairness……that this is something other than a completely pre-arranged propaganda exercise that will also shut up for ever one or two people who might, in the long term, provide information that damages the real criminals responsible for 9/11.


  172. Perhaps I can turn my satellite dish pointing at SES Astra into a bird-bath now PressTV has been banned from Europe (most of the channels are porn or in the German language)…

  173. They’ve lost the run of themselves completely:
    “Israeli forces attempt to arrest 2-year-old Palestinian child”

  174. “The Times article, based on information from former intelligence officers who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Abu Zubaydah had revealed a great deal of information before harsh methods were used and after his captors stripped him of clothes, kept him in a cold cell and kept him awake at night. The article said interrogators at the secret prison in Thailand believed he had given up all the information he had, but officials at headquarters ordered them to use waterboarding.”
    (NYT, 2009)
    A neat encapsulation of the processes of modern freedom and democracy at work.
    In inducing us to abandon all civilised norms in this way, I’d say the terrorists had won. Hands down.

  175. “US draws up plans for nuclear drones”
    …”It’s pretty terrifying prospect,” said Chris Coles of Drone Wars UK, which campaigns against the increasing use of drones for both military and civilian purposes. “Drones are much less safe than other aircraft and tend to crash a lot. There is a major push by this industry to increase the use of drones and both the public and government are struggling to keep up with the implications” …

  176. Komodo,
    In inducing us to abandon all civilised norms in this way, I’d say the terrorists had won. Hands down.
    Those were no terrorists, in fact the whole stinking affair was started with an attempt in the protection of “Markets” due to the inevitable crash and burn of the the “only clever men in the room” aka Enron (Remember Kenny boy?).
    Post the collapse of the two buildings and the subsequent collapse of the fifty story world trade center seven, that apparently fell apart in sympathy, the world was changed, so the crooks and liars pontificated.
    Success of the operation huff and puff and blow up the buildings was shown in markets remaining operational, that is, despite the massive losses of those investors in Enron, Global Crossing, Parmalat, et al, there were no runs on the stock market and banks, hence the objective had been achieved, the punters getting the shaft and not getting spooked and messing it all up. However the ease of the taking candy from the masses who were all too horrified to care what happens to their dosh, then compelled the crooks and liars to go for more.
    Hence came Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Somali, etc. lunching the evident never ending hundred years of war cycle, in an effort to maintain the Ponzi scheme that had patently fell apart and proved to be a failure.
    The on going economic crash itself an opportunity for a massive transference of wealth from the lower echelon to the plutocrats tacking the course of economic meltdown is indeed an opportunity that no crook can resist to play. Fact that this shameless reward for failure is contrary to all moral, and natural values, somehow is never even hinted at.

  177. Mark Golding : They are just do not want anyone to find out what actually goes on, that the sanctions have very little effect, that the normal life goes on in Iran and that Iranian even liberals anti government, support the government on their stance against USA/Europe/Israel. I know that, I just got back from Iran after spending a month and travelling to 5 different cities (big cities which traditionally are more anti government!), my husband noted that still far less begged in the streets than in London or New York …and that the life goes on as normal. Yes there is inflation, but nothing like it is reported, in fact there were some items such as fruit which were cheaper this year than last. Shops still were full of luxury goods. The biggest effect has been on currency exchange, but as someone said “it will make us even more reliant on ourselves and it might help employment”.

  178. Just 75 miles away from the English coast, there were two small fires in a PWR nuclear power station in Dieppe. Nothing to worry about say EDF!
    If there is something serious happening and as the wind is blowing strongly in a NNE direction at the moment, any radioactivity will be sent down into Brittany. Vice versa, if the wind was coming from the SE, we would be in trouble. Nobody wins.


  179. Boris’s earnings. This declaration follows a spat he had with Ken in the LBC lift. He called Ken a f…ing liar.
    Boris Johnson earned £1.3m in three years
    London mayor publishes financial details as part of deal designed to end pre-election tax row with Ken Livingstone


    Hélène Mulholland, political reporter
    guardian.co.uk, Thursday 5 April 2012
    Boris Johnson (left) and his rival Ken Livingstone (right) have been embroiled in a row over their tax arrangements. Photograph: Tim Ireland/PA WIRE
    Boris Johnson earned just short of £900,000 in freelance earnings on top of his six-figure mayoral salary in the first three years at City Hall, figures published by the Conservative mayor reveal.
    In the past 12 months alone, Johnson, who earns £250,000 for a Daily Telegraph column, received an additional £139,625 in freelance earnings, alongside his £143,911 mayoral salary.
    The scale of Johnson’s earnings will fuel claims by his rival Ken Livingstone that the Conservative candidate stands to benefit significantly from George Osborne’s decision to scrap the 50p top rate of tax – a move for which Johnson has strongly lobbied.
    Johnson was elected mayor in May 2008. From the period covering 2008-2009 to 2010-2011, he earned £896,643 on top of his mayoral salary. Last year, he earned £473,280, on which he paid £210,410 in income tax, and £3,339 in national insurance contributions, giving him total earnings of £1.3m over three years.


  180. Gunther Grass like many young Germans did not have much choice during the war.We’ve got a Pope that was in the SS and we had a UN secretary also in the SS. They were elite regiments. The best at being the worst.Some of the most famous SS officers were Jewish. Heydrich to name but one.
    I’m glad he has spoken out. This nonsense which is playing itself out in the middle east is farcical beyond belief.
    Israel has become everything it accuses everybody else of being and have turned the Palestinians into the persecuted people of Palestine in the process and if Israel succeeds with their ethnic cleansing then the irony will be complete.Who will they have left to kill,starve ,batter ,bruise and humiliate ? The Romans finally withdrew from Palestine. Wonder where the Israeli’S will go.
    Herr Grass knew that he would be painted with the Anti Semite brush as soon as he stopped his silence,and wrote what is already in many of our minds,with the exception of the Senate in the US.
    Maybe through his poem ,he can convince more people to stand up.
    Israel really are a menace. Vanunu spoke the truth.
    The truth is not anti semitic.

  181. Sooner or later somebody will translate it properly, I merely have made a start, its heavy going, I’m knackered and hence shall not be claiming that this is the infinitive version. I shall not argue with scholars either.

    Here are the first four paragraphs, I’ll do the rest over Easter, got another heavy day tommorrow.

    What has to be said
    Why am I silent, silenced for too long
    what is obvious,rehearsed as it was a gameplay,
    at its end, we, survivors, are merely footnotes.

    It is the asserted right of a first strike,
    which could incinerate Iran’s people whilst steered to jubilation,
    and subjugated by a braggard,
    because, within his powercircle,
    an Atombomb is assumed to be build.

    Yet, why forbid myself to name this country by its name
    in which for years,-although kept secret-
    a growing nuclear potential was available, but out of control,
    unapproachable for checks.

    The common concealment of the evidence,
    under which my silence was subordinated,
    I now sense as a burdened lie and compulsion, persecution a close prospect,
    as one ignores it,
    the verdict ‘antisemitismn’is familiar.

    A big RIP to Jim Marshall, inventor of the Marshall amplifiers and speakers, the man has put fun into rock’nroll, without ghim many rock musicians would be playing banjo’s.

  182. 3.5 mins from Glenn Greenwald on the subject of “Terror” and “Terrorism” – worth a look (but needs to be watched by those outside of this blog, really):

  183. “Air Force ramps up drone war”
    New documents reveal plans to more than quadruple Reaper missions by 2016
    “As the wars wind down,” is a phrase often heard in Washington these days, whether from Time’s Pentagon correspondent Mark Thompson or ProPublica’s T. Christian Miller, or Veterans for Common Sense. The suggestion, not unfounded, is that as the United States withdraws from Iraq and plans to withdraw from Afghanistan in 2014, the U.S. soldiers will be leaving foreign battlefields.
    But don’t expect the worldwide drone war now being waged in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia and Yemen to wind down. To the contrary, an Air Force announcement posted online this week indicates the Pentagon anticipates more than quadrupling the size of the global drone war over the next four years. If that happens the number of suspected terrorists killed, the “deep resentment” provoked in the targeted countries, and the terrible civilian casualties are likely to grow as well …
    Full text: http://www.salon.com/2012/04/05/air_force_ramps_up_drone_war/
    (My emphases)

  184. Thanks, Nevermind.
    Much better than my attempt to decipher online translation (which was also heavy work)! Look forward to seeing the rest when you have the opportunity.
    We seem to have reached roughly the same conclusions, but you have his voice and intentions, I think.
    Why be silent?
    I’ve kept stumm too long.
    It’s obvious,
    it’s a practised business plan,
    and at best we will survive as footnotes.
    It’s the “right” to a first strike
    to quench Iran’s people,
    (the subjects of loud bullies,
    their very celebrations organised)
    because – somewhere – it is thought
    they are building a nuclear bomb
    -But why? I ask myself,
    naming that other country.
    That one, for years, though it’s kept secret
    has had a nuclear capability,
    growing, out of control, since
    accessible to no inspection.
    Universal silence on this fact,
    embracing my subordinate silence,
    I feel to be a weighty lie,
    and there’s coercion, the prospective penalty
    for disregarding it;
    the familiar verdict of “antisemitism”.

  185. boniface goncourt

    6 Apr, 2012 - 12:12 am

    Seems the Kikistanis are bleating about diamond geezer G Grass.
    For those of you who like facts, download free pdf ‘The Hoax of the 20th Century'[8mb]. Go to


    then scroll down to ‘Butz, Arthur – Hoax of 20th Century
    [Mod/Clark – denialist/revisionist link deactivated, but link text retained so you can judge for yourselves.]

  186. Gunter Grass: What Must Be Said
    “Why be silent?
    I’ve kept stumm too long.

    Yes, he seemed to be well-practiced at keeping quiet. Except with other people, of course. While he spent 60 years wagging his moralizing finger at Germans for their failure to remember the war he rather left out the fact that he was in the bloody SS! Slight ommission there!
    I quite agree with the historian, Joachim Fest, “After 60 years, this confession comes a bit too late. I can’t understand how someone who for decades set himself up as a moral authority, a rather smug one, could pull this off.”
    Donny Darko: Gunther Grass like many young Germans did not have much choice during the war.We’ve got a Pope that was in the SS and we had a UN secretary also in the SS.
    The Pope was never in the SS. Joseph Ratzinger was conscripted to the Hitler Youth but never attended any meetings.
    Donny Darko: Some of the most famous SS officers were Jewish. Heydrich to name but one.

    Heydrich was not Jewish, however, the rumour that he was Jewish did float about largely because he was feared and hated by other Nazis who wanted to discredit him. His supposed Jewish ancestry was even investigated by Gregor Strasser and found to be not true. (see Richard J. Evans, The Third Reich In Power p.53-54 for details).
    Boneyface: Seems the Kikistanis are bleating about diamond geezer G Grass.
    Well, whether “kikistanis” is using a racist term as its root is immaterial given that you have now linked to a notorious Holocaust denial publication at what looks like a neo-Nazi/white supremacist site. Just as I thought you couldn’t get any baser.

  187. US troops in Darwin and US drones in the Cocos Islands.
    Dr Gideon Polya writes – extracted from https://sites.google.com/site/mainstreammediacensorship/censorship-by
    His entries are long and link-dense but worth ploughing through. Especially on drones here and elsewhere on Afghanistan opiate production and the deaths caused by opiate use.
    ‘On 28 March 2012 The Conversation published an article about the proposals to make Australia’s Cocos Islands in the Indian Ocean an airforce base for US drones. The article by Associate Professor David Glance (PhD in physiology from Imperial College London, director of the UWA Centre for Software Practice, a UWA research and development centre) was entitled “Spying, flying and delivering tacos – with drones the sky’s the limit”:
    {https://theconversation.edu.au/spying-flying-and-delivering-tacos-with-drones-the-skys-the-limit-6103 . The Conversation censored one of 2 comments I posted.}

    Komodo In the entry for 30 March on the link, there is a reference to ‘the Michael Hintze Fellow and Adjunct Associate Professor at the Centre for International Security Studies, Sydney University’. Those Hintze tentacles spread far and wide don’t they!

  188. The disgusting way in which British citizen Babar Ahmad has been treated is appalling.

  189. Far from taking Guenther Grass side, can it ever be too late to speak out?
    This peom is about the inability of germans to loose the guilt of their forefathers, still eager to supply nationalists with ICBm capable ultrasilent submarines.

    When Gunther Grass was pulled for the Waffen SS, he was 17, ein kleiner Butsche, and like many young boys his age mesmerised by the flagwaving torch bearers, he was taken in by the SS’s swagger and demeanor.
    Sadly he choose to keep his story quiet for a long time, but there are Nazi’s still alive who never repented, who have been ‘overlooked’ too valuable for the allies, just as Werner von Braun was, nobody ever crows about them.
    What is know of those brownshirts that joined Moseley? over 30.000 they say, have they suffered from their complicity? must be worth a research project for someone who can’t live without their daily does of WW2.

  190. Did I see Angry back again? This is for him (and anyone who feels like they might need a smile)
    “9/11 in under five minutes”
    (Sorry, I know the topic is forbidden, but this is comedy – kinda sorta)

  191. Meanwhile, the “stunt” in Toulouse gets fishier:
    “Thirty-two hours of fame: how the strange story of Mohamed Merah does not add up”

    More at EndtheLie.com – http://EndtheLie.com/2012/04/06/thirty-two-hours-of-fame-how-the-strange-story-of-mohamed-merah-does-not-add-up/#ixzz1rFr44dr8

  192. Sorry you lost your file, but hopefully a computer geek will be able to recover it for you.

    As you are in India, let me suggest a morale booster: get a packet of Brooke Bond Red Label tea.

  193. Angrysoba is of course obliged to toe his own party line, much as any citizen of Germany during WW2 was obliged to do. Hasbara demands no less. True, Angrysoba is not likely to be shot or to find himself doing hard manual labour on zero rations as the reward for dissent, but he has obviously bought into a romantic nationalist-supremacist myth. It would not surprise me to learn that he has served in the IDF, and we can take it as a given that he is unlikely to recognise, let alone speak out about the excesses of the Zionist state.
    I am surprised at his lack of empathy with Grass.
    Me, I think anyone who faced Koniev on the Eastern front in 1945 and survived deserves respect at least, and I am not too worried about how and when they tell their story. The collective wrath of Zion against a tank gunner who had nothing to do with the holocaust is indicative of a desperate and conscious distraction from the serious issues he raises.

  194. Just one further thought: the 18-year-old Grass came out of the war (as The Tin Drum unequivocally shows) with the realisation that his country had been lied to by its leaders. Perhaps his brief service in a line regiment engaged in total war, in a devastated landscape, impeded by his destitute, fleeing countrymen, might have had something to do with that. If he had ever been a gung-ho Nazi (and simplistic philosophies are attractive to the very young) this was a notable conversion.

  195. Quite an audience.


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  196. Nuid, great link. So good I’ll post it twice:
    Everyone on earth should see this (batshit tinfoil-hat babykilling conspiracy theorist or not)

  197. Angrysoba: There’s quite a few books that explain Heydrich’s jewishness as the reason for his extremes in dealing with the Czech problem.If you go down a generation or two,you’ll find a jew in most german families. Isn’t that why the Gestapo were so hated ?
    As for Ratzinger, SS Div 12 was Hitler Jugend.
    Kids are only as good as their parents.. doesn’t matter. Not their fault.
    Guess there was no way of denying Kurt Waldheim eh ??
    It doesn’t matter if the Ghetto is Warsaw or Gaza, the crime is the same and its wrong.

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