176 thoughts on “Afghan Disaster part 462

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  • Fedup

    Gruesome images are instinctively haunting and difficult, not motivational or enlightening.
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    The debate is not about horror movies, and the like. The notion is explorations of the need for oodles of money getting spent on making killing even more pernicious by the use of weapons of fire now and keep on killing for generations to come, all in the way of maintaining the full spectrum dominance. If this is not motivation enough to stop such a waste of money, and such a callous disregard for human rights, then shove your enlightenment where sun don’t shine.
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    As ever a good sayan jumps to aid us all to start thinking straight and stop watching our tax dollars at work, as well as watching the results of diversion of the said tax dollars at home.
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    A better suggestion, Why don’t we all go and listen to some fucking whales singing and shit? Misanthropic bastards make me sick.

  • crab

    I never imagined there was no argument, that was only my advice, but i didnt expect that rubbish even from you fedup.

  • Mary

    Where is the media on this? All their heads in the sand?
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    The Fuel Pools of Fukushima: THE GREATEST SHORT-TERM THREAT TO HUMANITY
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=30207
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    “Based on U.S. Energy Department data, assuming a total of 11,138 spent fuel assemblies are being stored at the Dai-Ichi site, nearly all, which is (sic) in pools. They contain roughly 336 million curies (~1.2 E+19 Bq) of long-lived radioactivity. About 134 million curies is Cesium-137 — roughly 85 times the amount of Cs-137 released at the Chernobyl accident as estimated by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection (NCRP). The total spent reactor fuel inventory at the Fukushima-Daichi site contains nearly half of the total amount of Cs-137 estimated by the NCRP to have been released by all atmospheric nuclear weapons testing, Chernobyl, and world-wide reprocessing plants (~270 million curies or ~9.9 E+18 Becquerel).
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    It is important for the public to understand that reactors that have been operating for decades, such as those at the Fukushima-Dai-Ichi site have generated some of the largest concentrations of radioactivity on the planet.” (Robert Alvarez, former Senior Policy Adviser to the Secretary and Deputy Assistant Secretary for National Security and the Environment at the U.S. Department of Energy)…

  • Mary

    Quite right Cameron.

    . Corrupt elites.
    Cameron will cite the Tunisian official who prompted the fruit seller Mohammed Bouazizi to set himself alight after refusing to let him sell his goods. ++ “Corruption denies the people their economic and political stake – the citizenship, the job and the voice that they want. Worse still, it breeds a cynicism and a sense of rage.++”
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    This is from a dreadful puff piece in the Guardian by a Nicholas Watt. Note throughout we read Cameron WILL say. Has Watt just reproduced a press handout? Before working for the Guardian, he was at the Times.
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    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1334215261.html

  • Jay

    Can someone please remind n cambell

    2 week jan2011 guardian page7
    Taliban offer 2educate girls

    Radio 5 phone ins

    Aargh……..

  • nevermind

    Thanks for that, mary, Fukushima is one big cover up and the nuclear industry is desperate to maske out that they are irreplacable, which they are not.

    Slightly OT, a good review of Guenther Grass’s nuclear poem from Prof. Dabashi.
    His views are that the more israel is compaling about the poems content, the more realisation that Israel as it stands manifests European neo colonialismn of the worst kind.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/04/2012498535088416.html

  • Mary

    Mads Gilbert on the ICC decision to let Israel off on their shoah on the people of Gaza, named Cast Lead. Cast Lead was named after the dreidl, a children’s spinning toy which used to be made of lead, given at Hannukah. In 2008 Hannukah ended on the date the offensive was launched.
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    Hannukah song
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    My teacher gave a dreidel to me
    A dreidel [made] of cast lead.
    Do you know in honor of what?
    In honor of Hannukah!
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    How nice.
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    http://www.accuracy.org/release/gaza-more-dire-than-ever/.

    A lovely man. I spoke with him when he gave this talk at UCL in November 2009.
    {http://www.map-uk.org/files/486_mads_gilbert_november_05.pdf}

  • Komodo

    Supplementary to the Gilbert piece-
    http://www.accuracy.org/release/international-criminal-court-rejects-israeli-war-crimes-probe-court-called-hoax/
    Author of “How America Gets Away With Murder, Illegal Wars, Collateral Damage and Crimes Against Humanity,” Mandel said today: “It’s disgraceful but not surprising that the ICC has dismissed Palestine’s complaint against Israel. It sat on the complaint for over three years, always proudly announcing that it was investigating it to give the appearance of impartiality. Meanwhile the ICC jumped to attention in less than three weeks when the U.S. government, which is not a signatory to the treaty, wanted to go to war against Libya, justifying Western aggression with bogus charges against the Libyan regime.”

  • Passerby

    Who was it whom raised the question: “Why would the US and toadies use Uzbekistan to ship out their murder kit”? (paraphrasing here)
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    Thanks to him/her, I have been exploring the why? One notion that somehow has escaped everyones attention, and not debated has been:
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    What if the murder kit is not for transshipment out of the area? Instead the kit is sent to Uzbekistan and then divided in among the “Friendly” regimes and kept there under the pretext: for quick access back to the Afghan theater if the need arises?
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    This shipment scenario will be taking the edge of US piling equipment into the Russia’s backyard, however once the stuff is in Uzbekistan, then suddenly a change of plan to keep the stuff in the area and pay some kind of rent for it storage in differing countries around the area. Presto there will be at least four other US military bases springing up right on the Russians, Chinese doorsteps without a great deal of fuss.
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    What say you?
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    Mary,
    communist radiation is bad, Capitalist unclear radiation is OK, and clean and healthy. In fact there has been Capitalist radiation around for some time and no one has come to nay harm, have they?
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    That is other than those silly natives in Bikini what’sit, and well some other uncivilized places, and Japan.

  • Anon

    Mary,
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    What we haven’t been told is what has already happened to the fuel pools. If you read through the massive amounts of NRC internal communications that have been released under FOIA requests, you’ll find their real best estimates of what has already been released (in bits they forgot o black out) – especially from the partial fuel pool fire in unit 4 on March 15th. Also interesting are the US Navy readings of effective thyroid dose in Tokyo area.
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    then there’s this.
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    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0265931X11003110
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    Radioactivity from Fukushima Dai-ichi in air over Europe; part 2: what can it tell us about the accident?

    G. Kirchnera, Corresponding author contact information, E-mail the corresponding author,
    P. Bossewa, E-mail the corresponding author,
    M. De Cortb, E-mail the corresponding author

    a German Federal Office for Radiation Protection, Köpenicker Allee 120-130, 10318 Berlin, Germany
    b European Commission, JRC, Institute for Transuranium Elements, Nuclear Security Unit, Radioactivity Environmental Monitoring, Via E. Fermi 2749, I-21027 Ispra (VA), Italy

    Received 28 July 2011. Revised 16 December 2011. Accepted 18 December 2011. Available online 9 January 2012.

    Abstract

    It is shown which information can be extracted from the monitoring of radionuclides emitted from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant and transported to Europe. In this part the focus will be on the analysis of the concentration ratios. While 131I, 134Cs and 137Cs were reported by most stations, other detected radionuclides, reported by some, are 95Nb, 129mTe, 132Te, 132I, 136Cs and 140La. From their activity ratios a mean burn-up of 26.7 GWd/t of the fuel from which they originated is estimated. Based on these data, inventories of radionuclides present at the time of the accident are calculated. The caesium activity ratios indicate emissions from the core of unit 4 which had been unloaded into the fuel storage pool prior to the accident.
    Highlights

    ► Activity ratios of Fukushima radionuclides in air are estimated. ► A mean burn-up of 26.7 GWd/t is derived from the caesium ratios. ► Fuel inventories at the time of the accident are calculated. ► Fuel in storage pool of unit 4 contributed to emissions.
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  • Clark

    Anon, could you translate any of that into simpler terms, please? And do you have links for any of the FOI request results?

  • arsalan

    Afghanistan doesnt just effect the people that live their. It also effects others. It has been used as a torture and rape centre for the Americans. Have we forgot about Dr AAfia sidiqi who was held there for 5 years, tortured, raped, paraded naked, made pregnant, had an abortion carried out on her by force, and then convicted for 86 years on made up charges.
    http://www.cageprisoners.com/our-work/interviews/item/3934-absent-justice-with-moazzam-begg-the-case-of-draafia-siddiqui

  • Anon

    Clark,
    enformable.com has the best processed collection from the requests they have submitted. There are thousands of pages of emails and telephone transcripts. What we don’t get though is the results of the simulations they ran on long term health effects. The documents show that they ran the simulations but they must not be made public.
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    Concerning the linked report above: Due to the differing half lives of Cs-137 and Cs-134 the activity ratio changes with time. It is possible to calculate how long it has been since the fuel was last critical.
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    According to the NRC internal documents, what TEPCO called a “lube oil” fire was a fuel pool fire (which is what the Japanese government formally told the IAEA it was as well before changing their story a few hours later).
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    Emissions continued on and off from the pool for several more days until TEPCO managed to refill it. NRC documents state that at least five people (who may or may not have been in the JSDF) were fatally exposed within the first few days of the incident.

  • Anon

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/us-japan-radiation-leaking-directly-into-idUSTRE72E7B220110315
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    The IAEA said it had been informed “that the spent fuel storage pond at the Unit 4 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is on fire and radioactivity is being released directly into the atmosphere.”
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    That statement has been removed from the IAEA press release archives. The old link for it on their website now goes to an infinite redirect.

  • Mary

    Neil @10.34am today
    Thanks for the link. I happened on the programme in the Crossing Continents series. Pure evil and heartbreaking to listen to. Some of the women were not told they had had hysterectomies or their tubes tied after giving birth by Caesarian section.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01fjx63
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    Natalia Antelava reports on Uzbekistan where women have become the new target of one of the most repressive regimes on earth. She uncovers evidence that women are being sterilised,often without their knowledge, in an effort by the government to control the population.
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    The programme speaks to victims and doctors and highlights the fear and paranoia that have made this such a difficult story to tell. Women have fled the country in order to escape the practice. Only a few brave Uzbeks have been willing to speak, often telling horrific stories the government don’t want told.
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    Producer: Wesley Stephenson.

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    On iPlayer now and re-broadcast next Monday on Radio 4 at 20.30

  • nuid

    Quite a bit of noise on Twitter in the past 3-4 days about this story:
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    Japan’s former Ambassador to Switzerland, Mr. Mitsuhei Murata, was invited to speak at the Public Hearing of the Budgetary Committee of the House of Councilors on March 22, 2012, on the Fukushima nuclear power plants accident. Before the Committee, Ambassador Murata strongly stated that if the crippled building of reactor unit 4—with 1,535 fuel rods in the spent fuel pool 100 feet (30 meters) above the ground—collapses, not only will it cause a shutdown of all six reactors but will also affect the common spent fuel pool containing 6,375 fuel rods, located some 50 meters from reactor 4. In both cases the radioactive rods are not protected by a containment vessel; dangerously, they are open to the air. This would certainly cause a global catastrophe like we have never before experienced. He stressed that the responsibility of Japan to the rest of the world is immeasurable. Such a catastrophe would affect us all for centuries. Ambassador Murata informed us that the total numbers of the spent fuel rods at the Fukushima Daiichi site excluding the rods in the pressure vessel is 11,421 (396+615+566+1,535+994+940+6375).
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    I asked top spent-fuel pools expert Mr. Robert Alvarez, former Senior Policy Adviser to the Secretary and Deputy Assistant Secretary for National Security and the Environment at the U.S. Department of Energy, for an explanation of the potential impact of the 11,421 rods.

    I received an astounding response from Mr. Alvarez [updated 4/5/12]:

    Continue here
    http://akiomatsumura.com/2012/04/682.html

  • nuid

    After quoting Robert Alvarez, the article goes on:
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    “Many of our readers might find it difficult to appreciate the actual meaning of the figure, yet we can grasp what 85 times more Cesium-137 than the Chernobyl would mean. It would destroy the world environment and our civilization. This is not rocket science, nor does it connect to the pugilistic debate over nuclear power plants. This is an issue of human survival.”
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    I know very little, personally, about the science/engineering of it, and all the possible risks at Fukushima. I only know what I read. But there hasn’t been one word on RTE, BBC, or SkyNews, to my knowledge. Talk about keeping schtum!

  • kashmiri

    @anon,
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    Thanks for your reply to my post.
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    By no means I tried to diminish Ambassador’s input in highlighting the scale of human rights violations in Uzbekistan. As someone who has lived both in Uzbekistan and in Kashmir (believe, for much longer than a few weeks each), as well as in a few other developing countries, I only tryied to put things in perspective. I still maintain that the scale of human rights violations in Uzbekistan and in India cannot be compared, to the disadvantage of India.
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    Yes, it is much worse to be a political opponent in Uzbekistan than in India (although I recall media and political opponents being brutally beaten there, too – vide e.g. Tehelka case). It is bad to be a child there during summer months, too.
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    However, it is usually plainly dreadful to be a woman in India all the year round. It is also very little fun to be very poor in India – IMHO much worse than in Uzbekistan where the state at least guarantees you access to basic healthcare and certainty that you won’t die of starvation.
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    I am sorry I used the same argument as someone else. This is coincidence.
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    Don’t take me wrong, I am not anti-India, I love being there, along with the sense of freedom you can hardly experience anywhere else on the planet (and certainly not in Uzbekistan). But I try not to be blind. Indian security forces routinely execute dozens of civilians in Kashmir in false-flag “terrorist attacks” before nearly every visit of a high US official to Delhi (the Chhatisinghpora massacre before Clinton’s 2002 visit being the most vivid example in my memory).
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    To put things short, government of Uzbekistan is no fun – but governments of many other countries are far worse towards their population. That’s my firm opinion.

  • Clark

    Anon, thanks. “The documents show that they ran the simulations but they must not be made public.” Would you post the links, please, to save me trawling through to find them? I know someone else who would probably re-link to them.

  • crab

    I couldn’t take your comments up myself Kashmiri, but i find them electric to the topic ++.
    And the other infos/topics are all but too real also.

  • Anon

    Clark,
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    Here’s a few bits from just one document on March 20th. You’ll find numerous other references both to simulations and readings out of line with what the Japanese reported in public. Note that the US Navy briefed the ambassador that thyroid dose was 100 times that announced by the Japanese government. The US Navy is expert at that sort of thing.

    http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1205/ML12052A111.pdf.
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    NRC Title: Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi ET Audio File Sunday, March 20, 2011 PDF Transcript
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    DON COOL: …Without going to too-far speculation at the moment, it would appear that a good amount of the volatile radioactive material that might have been in that spent fuel pool is now laying on the ground in the 13-plus miles northwest of the facility.
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    …LARRY CAMPER: Yeah, we’re thinking the exact same thing. We’re all in the same place. We’re ruling out lube oil fire. I don’t think any of us are buying that.

    DAVE SKEEN: Yeah. Well, I’m still going to go back to we haven’t seen any steaming coming out of Unit 4 since early in the event, which leads us to believe that there’s no water there to steam.

    JOHN MONNINGER: Yep. We agree with you. So the only thing I’m saying is, you know, we would be interested in the calculations but we’ve got to be extremely careful what we do with them.

    DAVE SKEEN: Yeah. We’ll leave that up to you, but we’ll get that information for you guys to have in your pocket anyway.
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    JOHN MONNINGER: The — are you ready?

    They [US Navy] took some samples [South of Tokyo], and the sample is in microcuries per milliliter, and they say that’s the equivalent of 150 millirem per hour.

    JOHN MONNINGER: So what were you told about the equivalent thyroid?

    KATHY: 1.5 millirem per hour.

    JOHN MONNINGER: So that’s a factor of 100 different than what’s being reported here.

    MALE PARTICIPANT: Yeah.

    JOHN MONNINGER: They’re [US NAVY] saying 150 millirem per hour.

    (Simultaneous conversation.)

    JOHN MONNINGER: And that’s what’s, being briefed to the ambassador right now.

  • Anon

    And the radiation levels in the corridor to the NW. Here’s what was found at 31km away where people were not initially evacuated for weeks. In fact they evacuated people into one of the most heavily contaminated zones right in the major fallout plume. Worth clicking through to the actual NRC document quoted.

    http://ex-skf.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-max=2012-04-09T11:23:00-07:00&max-results=20
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    Radiation in Namie-machi, Fukushima Almost Exceeded OSHA 90-Day Limit for Radiation Worker in 14 Days Last Year

    The cumulative radiation dose at MP (monitoring post) 32 in Fukushima Prefecture from March 23 to April 4, 2011 was 11,630 microsieverts (or 11.63 millisieverts), almost exceeding the OSHA 90-day limit for radiation worker of 12,500 microsieverts in 14 days.

    My guess is if the radiation had been measured from March 11, 2011, it would have surpassed that limit long before March 23, 2011.

    From Enformable’s digging of the NRC FOIA documents, 3-page email dated April 9, 2011 says on page 3:

    MP32

    The U.S. 50-mile radius adequately protects public health, but the Japanese 20-kilometer (12 mile) radius may not protect the health of the general public, pregnant female radiation workers, or radiation workers who remain longer than 2 weeks near MP32.

    MP32 remained MP32 in the Ministry of Education and Science (MEXT) monitoring data, until April 11, 2011 when the location was finally named. It was Akougi District of Namie-machi in Fukushima. Why was the location finally named that day? Because that was the day the government announced the planned evacuation zone that included Akougi and most of Namie-machi that was not already inside the 20-kilometer no-entry zone.

    Akougi is located at 31 kilometers northwest of Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, outside the no-entry zone. The district was finally declared planned evacuation zone on April 11, 2011, because the annual cumulative radiation dose was expected to exceed 20 millisieverts.

  • Clark

    Anon, thanks; I’ve forwarded that. If you’re browsing through the FOI results and you find any more like that, please make some notes so I can pass them on.

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