Karimovs Cash In

by craig on March 21, 2012 1:58 am in Uncategorized

UK Defence Secretary Philip Hammond’s visit to Tashkent on 28 February was not covered in any UK mainstream media that I can find, which is peculiar, given the media’s obsession with covering anything to do with “Our heroes” in Afghanistan. It was not really the kind of visit the state would want to publciise, with Hammond in the rather unheroic position of having his knees firmly placed on the acres of marble floor of Tashkent’s presidentiail palace, with his tongue well and truly stuck up Karimov’s arse.

NATO, including the UK, needs to transit Uzbekistan to get its 14,000 vehicles out of Afghanistan, having well and truly queered the pitch of an exit through Pakistan by a decade of bombing the locals. The Karimov family had already made hundreds of millions in profit through a monopoly of providing haulage and logistical services to supplies going in to Afghanistan. With NATO’s demoralised forces sitting on an incredibly large stockpile of materiel in effect stuck in the country as the utterly fruitless occupation ends, the Karimovs are in a position to ramp up extortion.

That will not only involve huge cash payments going to the Karimov family from the British taxpayer, disguised as transit fees, railway charges, fuel provision etc. It will also include a raft of political demands. Karimov had already in 2011 secured the ending of EU sanctions, and the international respectability he craves for his regime through an official visit to Brussels and call on EU President Barroso.

Now as a condition of facilitating our retreat, Karimov is insisting on a full visit to Tashkent by David Cameron in 2013 or 2014, a state visit by Karimov to the UK in 2015 and acceptance of Gulnara Karimova as Uzbek Ambassador in London. He is also keen to acquire a variety of state of the art UK weapons and surveillance systems for use against his own people. The strong steer from No 10 is that these Karimov demands will have to be accepted.

There is an excellent video here of Scott Horton being interviewed by Galima Burkabaeva on the subject of the kelptocratic Karimov state. Galima was an eyewitness to the Andijan massacre of 2005, in which Karimov’s military murdered some 800 pro-democracy demonstrators. Galima herself only just got away, a bullet passing clean through her reporter’s notebook.

Nice friends Mr Hammond has.

(Am currently in Delhi).

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  1. Naturally, the UK establishment goes along with all this in “good faith”, because it couldn’t possibly know anything whatsoever about the above. It doesn’t know anything about it, couldn’t investigate it even if it did catch a rumour, and in any case – our government requires absolute proof before considering the application of even mild diplomatic sanctions.
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    At least, it does while they are considered Official Friends (or unofficially useful).

  2. Thanks so much for this, Craig.
    .
    He looks like a donut-addict, but Mr Horton is certainly one of the last Renaissance men of American letters, so it’s fantastic to see him applying himself to Uzbekistan.
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    For anybody who has not read it, check out his Harpers’ investigation into a secret section of Gitmo, and the murders that likely happened there. Essential.

  3. The Guantánamo “Suicides”: A Camp Delta sergeant blows the whistle -> http://harpers.org/archive/2010/01/hbc-90006368

  4. boniface goncourt

    21 Mar, 2012 - 3:49 am

    At least the Karimovs are easy to understand. They are primitive banditti, don’t ye know. We delude ourselves that our own leaders are more sophisticated. But no, they are not English gentlemen!
    Let us get to the basic, the nitty-gritty, the gist. Rip through the fog of soundbytes, smarm and slogans, think tanks and white papers and big societies, and simply ask of Cameron, Osborne, and the other gargoyles of greed: how much cash do you pocket from this or that measure? How many millions in markers will you cash in, four years down the line? Becasuse greed is all that drives them.
    What’s in that oligarch postal order, Bunter? How much you gittin’ in tips bruv?

  5. Thanks Craig – on the button, as usual.
    .
    But you can see why they had little patience for your approach to diplomacy when you were ambassador…

  6. If Cameron visits Uzbekistan in 2013/14, I hope he will have the decency to stay there. He will find Karimov congenial company, with a refreshing attitude to civil order and the flow of capital. And Karimov would probably appreciate the services of an ex-PR man with valuable social contacts. It would be a marriage made in heaven.

  7. The mental image created in Craig’s first para is enough to make one choke on one’s cornflakes! I have always thought that Hammond could make a good pantomime dame. All this aside, he is one of the ConDem multi millionaires of course so he has his head screwed on alright. Wiki – ‘Hammond’s wealth is estimated at £7.5m or £9m.’
    .
    In spite of being so wealthy he is a trougher too. ‘Philip Hammond was criticised in 2009 when it emerged during the MP expenses row that he claimed just £8 short of the maximum allowance for a second home in London from 2007 to 2008 even though he lived in the commuter belt town of Woking. As a result of the criticism Mr Hammond told his local paper that he would pay back any profit he makes on the future sale of his second home to the public purse.’
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    More here on Staff Sgt.Bales and his lawyer. No evidence etc etc.
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    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1332286202.html

  8. So David cameron will go to Uzbekistan and plead in person for the murderer of Richard Conroy to be handed over to the Bagram/Diego Garcia/Guantanamo torture teams, what a turn for the books, NOT.
    Does the FCO have any decency to inquire about their murdered officers? Was Richard in the way? of a lucrative heroin trade using Termez as their main crossing? what was he proposing and what his ‘removal’ a collaborative effort between the two states?

    How can one be upholding a face saving exercise when Human rights are not seen even to apply to your own people? The FCO’s human rights agenda never existed and Cameron complying with Karimovs demand for a visit will not change the fact on the ground.

  9. Remember this Mr Hammond.
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    http://jamblichus.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/boileddude.jpg?w=480 (warning v graphic image)

  10. should have been ‘was his removal’, its my fingers f….ing, again….doooh.

  11. Interesting that ZBC included Blair three times in this set of photographs taken yesterday at the gathering of war criminals and toadies with their leaderene in her usual upturned flower pot chapeau.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17444950

  12. Clearly the US is not liaising with its Afghan ally:
    http://www.chron.com/news/article/Villagers-Afghan-slayings-were-act-of-retaliation-3421376.php
    “Karzai’s investigative team” wouldn’t be interested in forensic evidence, or trying to collect it, I suppose?

  13. Back to Uzbekistan – some background:
    http://bellum.stanfordreview.org/?p=706

  14. Thank-you Craig I will twitter this information.

    I am not sure if anyone bothers to watch the Freemason Leveson Circus…BUT today Strathclyde police put in an appearance and still the cover up of Moira Anderson continues .. I have asked Tom Watson to look into it but no reply.

    http://smileyculturelies.blogspot.com.es/2011/06/moira-anderson-victim-of-strathclyde.html

  15. @ Mary: Only three times? Blurrgh must be slipping. I hardly dare take photos in deserted rural spots in case the little rat thrusts its unappealing features into the lens….

  16. Super stuff, Craig. Be sure to visit Qutb Minar while you’re in Delhi. Good article here: http://du-in.academia.edu/SunilKumar/Papers/1301827/_Qutb_and_Modern_Memory_

  17. Uzbek in the UK

    21 Mar, 2012 - 10:17 am

    Nothing is new under the sun.
    .
    It is not the first time when western democracy bends its knees to the despotic tyrant. Realpolitik in its very glory.
    .
    If you look at it carefully neither UK nor US have any other choice as to bend over before Karimov. Which other way to pull out thousands of men and vehicles?
    .
    Karimov of course yet once again demonstrated excellence of his survival skills. Not only he was made the leader of Uzbekistan despite the fact that he does not belong to the ruling elite, but he managed to stay in power for longer than any other former Soviet leader (Nazarbaev is another example but the case of Kazakhstan is rather unique due to its ethnic composition).
    .
    Not only he kicked out US off the region in 2005 but now he is now in the position to dictate his terms and conditions, which I have no doubts will be accepted. Some (including Putin) might have thought back in 2005 that Karimov was fully in Kremlin’s pocket, but yet again even KGB officer was proven to be wrong. Karimov took a moment, bended over before Putin for a while, but then returned Uzbekistan to the unique anti-Russian foreign policy course. And this is despite receiving over 4 billion USD annual revenue from millions of Uzbeks working in Russia, despite having all export and import routes via Russia, and despite having all (but Turkmenistan) pro-Russian and particularly unfriendly to him neighbours in the region.
    .
    I might be the last person to do it, but I shall admit that Karimov deserves applauses for his excellent survival skills. Not many tyrant of his calibre and as despotic as him could boast with the same achievements.
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    Mr Murray, to you personally: I think that you left FCO in a good time. The whole business in Uzbekistan is to get much dirtier and much more cynical in times to come. Survival of kleptocratic western democracies fully depends on the access to the energy and on the containment of raising Chinese influence. And in this I feel many so much cherished moral standings will be sacrificed at large to the achievement of these goals.

  18. Hintze? Crazy name…strangely familiar, too:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/11/michael-hintze-liam-fox-backer
    “In fact, records going back four years suggest the activities of Atlantic Bridge were largely speaking events, in the main led by the charity’s founder chairman, Fox. The accounts also show that £104,000 – or 58% of the charities voluntary income – had come from one source: the Hintze Family Foundation.”

  19. Sharing the same trough…
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    You need to Google “hintze philip hammond”, find this FT entry {“Werritty met US defence secretary – FT.com”}
    and look at the cached version as the FT has a paywall and the cache URL is browser-specific (prob user-specific)

    .
    “As the government comes under pressure to change lobbying rules, it emerged that Philip Hammond, Mr Fox’s replacement as defence secretary, also received hospitality from Michael Hintze, who was a prominent backer of Mr Fox. Mr Hintze, who supported Mr Werritty in his work while also investing in defence companies, hosted Mr Hammond at several dinners before and after the election, which were openly declared.”

  20. Uzbek in the UK

    21 Mar, 2012 - 10:57 am

    @ Nevermind
    .
    I believe that Richard Conroy was not FCO officer but was UN representative to Uzbekistan. So I presume it is for UN to inquiry Uzbek officials of plane crash and assassination conspiracy. His death was the reason why plane crash was made public for the first time, Uzbek officials were incapable of containing this information from public, as they have done on several previous occasions when only local residents were victims.
    .
    What is interesting to note (and Mr Murray has also mentioned this on several occasions) is that despite millions of EU/US taxpayers money was spent on border crossing control in Termez (main border crossing between Uzbekistan and Afghanistan), the amount of heroin that is supplied to the market had not fallen. Contrary to this, and according to some research made in Russia, heroin in the last 10 years fallen in price by 25% and its consumption in Russia have risen by 80%. Of course there is nothing to say that whole heroin from Afghanistan crosses only Uzbek/Afghan border, but certainly heroin that reaches Russia is brought from Afghanistan via Central Asia. There are of course 3 Central Asian countries that border with Afghanistan but what is interesting is that during Soviet war in Afghanistan, Uzbekistan served as the main transit corridor for heroin export in which it is believed the top KGB officers were patrons. This in turn led to Uzbek criminals having acquired considerable influence in Moscow, the one that they continue to enjoy at present times.
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    It might seem that whoever is patronising heroin trade at present, they use the same routes and quite possibly the same people to continue to deliver heroin to the market. This argument becomes stronger considering the fact that Central Asia and Russia (and Russia in particular) are today also consume considerable amount of heroin.

  21. I shall paraphrase a sentence in that Mail link Komodo.

    One of Michael Hintze’s favourite and oft-quoted maxims is taken from Luke 12:48: ‘Unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required.’

    .
    Now reading ‘Unto whomsoever much is given by Mr Hintze, of them shall be much required.’
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    The Topry boy and girl recipients have been bought and I suppose they know this. Or perhaps they are just too dim and naive.

    .
    I see that Mr Hintze professes to be a ‘devout Roman Catholic’ as do many other British and American Jews. My life!

    From the article – At the Belgravia headquarters of his $10billion CQS hedge fund, one employee is tasked solely with opening the flood of letters which arrive daily, asking the celebrated philanthropist for money. ‘Somebody has to read them, and treat those people with respect,’ Mr Hintze, a devout Roman Catholic, once explained. ‘They are not asking just because they want something for nothing.’

  22. No doubt among other points of note debated, are the active help of the US NATO et al in helping Uzbekistan fight the Uzbek extremists, who are busy: “ploting to provide support to an Uzbek terrorist organization that authorities say is engaging NATO coalition and U.S. forces in Afghanistan.”
    ,
    Our fight is the Karimov’s fight and his enemies are our enemies too.
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    Hence the latest uncovering of a dastardly, heinous, barbaric plots of: “Bakhtiyor Jumaev was arrested in Philadelphia, according to Colorado U.S. Attorney John Walsh.”
    ,
    “A 45-year-old Philadelphia resident was detained in the United States on suspicion of supporting a terrorist group from Uzbekistan, to whom he allegedly donated $300, local authorities said.”
    ,
    ,
    {http://en.rian.ru/world/20120316/172205468.html}
    Philadelphia Man Arrested in Colo. Terrorism Case
    ,
    ,
    Uzbek in UK,
    Best start carrying a picture of the dear leader in you wallet, purely as a sign of your devotion and love of Karimov your dear fantastic great ingenious leader!!!! (they can intercept the IP addresses you know)

  23. Uzbek in the UK

    21 Mar, 2012 - 12:14 pm

    @ Passerby
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    I have no need of Karimov’s face in my wallet, I keep Karimov deeply in my heart and my mind. So even when I have no wallet on me, I still have Karimov with me.
    .
    F..ck the IP interception. I bid they know who I am, and as far as I out of Uzbekistan, I am no bother to them. They have White House, N10, Brussels serving them at their table, who am I to make a difference?

  24. Komodo I can see just ONE dinner declared for himself and lovely wife from Hintze.
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    He loves accepting hospitality from tobacco companies. BAT is based in his Woking constituency. Now killing the Chinese in thousands as they take up the weed.{http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2004/jul/17/china.smoking}
    .
    His shares in Castlemead are now in a trust. I see he indirectly benefits from the NHS privatisation.
    .
    (a) Castlemead Ltd.; a company whose principal activity is property development, including the development of Primary Care premises for NHS bodies and General Medical Practitioners.
    (a) Castlemead Ltd.; a company involved in housebuilding and development, including the development of premises for lease to general medical practitioners.

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    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=10257

  25. There seem to be some of us who are – perish the thought – sceptical of NATO’s intention to eliminate the Afghan heroin trade, and have even expressed the thought that the Afghans might not want NATO there. Let me put their fears to rest. The facts are these:
    NATO IN AFGHANISTAN
    MASTER NARRATIV E AS AT 6 October 2008
    This guidance document is designed to assist all those who play a part in explaining the situation in
    Afghanistan and the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) mission, but especially those who deal
    with the media. Ownership of this document is shared between NATO HQ, SHAPE, JFC Brunssum and HQ
    ISAF but certain issues should be led at the strategic level (NATO HQ /SHAPE); these are annotated as
    such. The Current Issues section will be updated according to the level of Alliance or public interest at the
    time of issue……..
    .
    SECTION III – KEY POLITICAL MESSAGES
    29. Why is NATO in Afghanistan?
    NATO’s presence in Afghanistan is in the best interests of the Afghan people, it is in the interest of
    our own peoples, and it is the right thing to do.
     The security of NATO member states does not start at their borders.
     Terrorism and the drugs trade do not recognise territorial boundaries.
     As a failed state under the Taleban, Afghanistan exported terrorism, instability and crime to its
    neighbours and to the rest of the world.
     Today, NATO and the wider International Community stand by the democratically elected
    GIRoA and the people of Afghanistan to prevent this happening again.
    30. Legal Mandate
    ISAF is mandated under Chapter VII of the UN Charter. Ten UN Security Council Resolutions
    – 1386, 1413, 1444, 1510, 1563, 1623, 1659, 1707, 1776 and 1833 – relate to ISAF.
     The ISAF mission was created in accordance with the Bonn Conference of December 2001
    and its tasks are detailed in a Military Technical Agreement of January 2002 between the ISAF
    Commander and the Afghan Transitional Authority.
     ISAF was initially led by lead nations: the UK, followed by Turkey and the joint lead of Germany
    and the Netherlands.
     In August 2003, upon request of the UN and GIRoA, NATO took responsibility for ISAF.
    31. Legitimacy
    NATO is in Afghanistan at the express wish of the democratically elected GIRoA and is widely
    supported by the Afghan population.
     NATO/ISAF is in Afghanistan to support the legitimate Afghan authorities.
     As demonstrated in all opinion polls, there is strong support from the Afghan people for
    NATO/ISAF.

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    http://wlstorage.net/file/nato-master-narrative-2008.pdf
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    (Wikileaks)
    .
    And now you know.

  26. Mary: It was a HUGE dinner…
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hammond-linked-to-millionaire-backer-behind-foxs-charity-2371588.html
    .
    And who are we to doubt Mr Hammond when he says everything was declared, and not merely a token fraction?

  27. Uzbek in the UK

    21 Mar, 2012 - 12:40 pm

    @ Komodo
    .
    I believe that in 1938 someone named Adolf Hitler was also appealing to wide public support amongst Sudets Germans towards annexing Sudets from Chehoslovakia. Time passes but methods do not change.

  28. Had to switch off Gideon delivering his budget speech. I could not stand just one minute more of his strangulated voice. Is there something wrong with him?

  29. Is Sarko the sayan using the Bu$hBlair tactics to extricate himself from a potential loss scenario? Whilst the “terrorist” was busy bartering with the police a bomb went off in the vicinity/front of Indonesian embassy.
    ,
    However, the media are running with the stories of the Al Qaeda, Pakistan, and Mooslums are coming to get you!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ,
    Although the narrative is now changing to: the “Tyyyrrrrrroooorrrist” ringing France24 and admitting to being the villain post which the cops perambulate to his address, and he shoots them through the letter box!!!
    ,
    This story is getting stranger by the second, however the shrill anti Muslim hate mongering goes on unabated.

  30. Mary,
    Is there something wrong with him?
    Alas he suffers from a sever case of craptitis, a disease which has no known cure. I can take the credit for heckling him, during one of his soliloquies that sounded more bollocks than a pair adorning the nether regions of a goat.
    ,
    He has been picked up precisely because he is such a whiny ass twit, this way no one will notice what he whined on about until it is too late.

  31. @ Passerby –
    Well, at least he isn’t an antisemite now. First off the block was Israel, shrieking “antisemite”, but turns out he was (allegedly) avenging the deaths of Palestinian children at IDF hands. Relative silence ensues…

  32. One thought, though: how long do we reckon Karimov will live to enjoy his $$$, once the US/CIA no longer needs him? Is he the kind to retire in exile, Craig, or does he too much enjoy the hands-on side of tyranny and the adulation he commands?

  33. .58pm: Smallprint Alert: Under the headline “simplification” in the Red Book, there are figures showing how much the chancellor will raise from freezing age-related allowances. Osborne said in his speech that he wanted to make taxation for pensioners simpler. But it’s also a substantial money-raiser – and by 2014-15 it will raise more than any other measure in the budget. In 2014-15 it will raise £670m and by 2016-17 it will raise £1.250bn
    (Guardian budget blog)
    And he’s cut the 50 p rate.
    Floreat Etona.

  34. “NATO, including the UK, needs to transit Uzbekistan to get its 14,000 vehicles out of Afghanistan”

    I am not sure I fully understand the logic. Yes, of course you can export the 14,000 to Uzbekistan but then what? You have 14,000 vehicles land-locked in a country surrounded by such beacons of freedom as Turmenistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan. The only way out would be to fly them. Why not fly them direct from Afghanistan (assuming its technically feasible) in the first place?

    An exit route though Pakistan would have the much simpler option of loading onto ships at a port city like Karachi.

  35. If I read Pakistan correctly, it would also stand a pretty good chance of bringing down the Pakistan government. Which is not the result the US is looking for.

  36. Coyne Airways will be coining it too according to this.
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    http://www.aircargoworld.com/Air-Cargo-News/air-cargo-world-magazine/world-news/europe
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    Coyne have multinational teams in London and Dubai.
    {http://www.coyneair.com/about-us/what-we-do/}

  37. According to this (February) the 50% rate payers were expected to contribute £41.4 billion in tax. Cutting the rate to 45% therefore loses the Treasury over £4Bn…not quite the outcome Osprawn is claiming. And does he think the few people who went offshore as a result of the 50% are going to trickle back at 45%?
    There is some very devious rationalisation going on here, and it looks as if a nought or two got lost on the way.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/tax/8321369/Top-1-of-workers-pay-quarter-of-all-income-tax.html

  38. Geomannie,
    There is an invention known as train, runs on sort of metal tracks, and is thought to be sort of capable of transporting and taking heavy machines and sorts to different places likes of ports and seaside towns!!!!
    ,
    Air power is only good enough to rain bombs and shit on civilians, or force the civilians to be fondled in the airports, taking the heavy shit that has been pounding the Afghanistan and bouncing rubble can only be done through the old fashioned trains, and sea going cargo vessels.
    ,
    ,
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    Komodo,
    There is always an upside to everything! Did you read the DM farticle about Ashton remarks? The comments were a hoot, GIYUS merchants were besides themselves, you could almost feel the whizzing hats and forelock flying all over the shop, oh the indignity of it all!!!!!

  39. kingfelix,
    Lightening always strikes the other guy! Karimov is busy enjoying the soup that he is drinking with his new found best friends, confident that he has a long enough spoon to remain out of their reach!
    ,
    Saddam, Mubarak, Qaddafi, ……. etc. were all wrong, because they never made provisions for a long enough spoon apparently.

  40. Passerby,
    She should resign immediately. Yahud Barak says so. We can’t have any antisemitic truthtelling going on among our hired enforcers beloved allies.
    “The Israeli government demanded that Lady Ashton step down, with defence minister Ehud Barak denouncing the mention of Gaza as inappropriate and demanding a retraction.”
    Personally, I think any mention of G-za is inappropriate. It is antisemitic to mention it at all. Or even think about it. Giza, Gozo, and Togo are pretty suspect as well.
    Note: the good rabbi was shipped out to Israel pronto for burial. Another patriot lost to France…

  41. Uzbek in the UK

    21 Mar, 2012 - 3:03 pm

    @ Kingfelix
    .
    The problem, or rather the issue, is that Karimov and his successor might, and most likely will be needed to US/UK long after they left Afghanistan.
    .
    If you look at the map carefully you realise that Uzbekistan is ideally placed in the centre of Central Asia, region that borders China, Russia and Iran altogether. Ideal place to be (or have influence in) if you are planning to contain raising influence of China, or re-assertiveness of Russia, or keeping Iran on target and not to mention richness of the region with oil and gas.
    .
    And unlike Afghanistan Uzbekistan or any other Central Asian states, despite being run by tyrannical regimes, do not yet qualify for failed states status. Thus, it seems that US/UK military, diplomatic or intelligence boots will certainly feel more comfortable in Central Asia than in Afghanistan.

  42. Uzbek in the UK

    21 Mar, 2012 - 3:16 pm

    @ geomannie
    .
    Passerby gave you good enough answer regarding how heavy machinery can and most likely will be moved further away from Uzbekistan.
    .
    Just to add here that you are right assuming that Pakistan would have been much easier option, but slight issue here is that Northern part of it have pretty much more in common with Afghanistan then with Islamabad, and it seems more likely that most of machinery will be burned or captured before it even riches Karachi. To prevent this US/UK will need to ensure that it is capable of protecting their machinery and this is more likely to be achieved by bringing war from Afghanistan to Pakistan. It is unlikely that US/UK will want to move Pakistan’s status from pre-failed state to full failed state, especially considering Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal.
    .
    Thus, the only way remains is via North that is run by tyrannical and yet secular regimes that for some amount of $$$ will provide safe heaven without risks of getting into civil war trouble.

  43. Another place the Yanks are leaving. Hurriedly:
    .
    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2012/03/20/Leave-Gaza-Strip-US-tells-citizens/UPI-26851332263463/
    .
    Whatever can the IDF be planning?

  44. Thanks Passerby for the reminder of trains. Can I remind him/her of geography? To export heavy weaponry and vehicles by train from Uzbekistan would mean passing through Russia. Somehow I think that the Russians might not like NATO saying “don’t mind us, were just passing though”. Just a hunch.

  45. Geomannie
    Just a hunch.
    ,
    Once the stuff is on board trains, then it is calcified as cargo! This then falls under the international trade agreements right up to the docks and on board the ships.
    ,
    The routes and ports have already been designated/planned and are in preparations for the arrival of the “cargo”.

  46. Uzbek in the UK

    21 Mar, 2012 - 4:17 pm

    Russia was never a problem really.
    .
    Putin might play his anti-NATO card well for public, but in fact he, pretty much as everyone in former USSR, is quite bendable to cash.
    .
    Before licking Karimov’s arse, I am sure White House “convinced” Putin of necessity of using Northern retreat from Afghanistan.
    .
    If this was not enough, then I am sure that China, which is pretty much concerned with US presence in what is now becoming China’s backyard and with future stability of its ally – Pakistan, helped US to convince Mr Putin of necessity of Northern retreat.
    .
    All in all, Russia has agreed to Northern retreat much earlier than Hillary went to Tashkent.

  47. Licking, more and more
    http://en.ca-news.org/news/457591

  48. Uzbek in the UK

    21 Mar, 2012 - 5:11 pm

    @ Gwent
    .
    Nice link.
    .
    Ironically, National Centre for Human Rights in Uzbekistan is headed by Akmal Saidov, one of the nastiest advocates of Karimov’s regime. But I am sure that Baroness Vivien Stern was not aware of this and sincerely believed that Prof. Saidov is person who was worthy of her attention (I am of course being sarcastic).

  49. No connection to the Stern Gang one assumes!
    .
    She is currently a member of the parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights…..
    http://www.johnsmithmemorialtrust.org/web/site/home/BaronessStern.asp

  50. boniface goncourt

    21 Mar, 2012 - 6:22 pm

    Notice how disappointed the ‘brews are at the Toulouse shootings? Ready to enjoy being all weepy-crawly and ooze self-pity at Holocaust 2.0, they find three goyim got shot too! Two ay-rabs and…and a schwarzer…how very dare they! What a party-pooper. Shooting Kushites with the same gun as used on the Chosen Race, that’s real anti-semitism. Quite spoils the snivel.

  51. Craig,
    “UK Defence Secretary Philip Hammond’s visit to Tashkent on 28 February was not covered in any UK mainstream media that I can find, which is peculiar, given the media’s obsession with covering anything to do with “Our heroes” in Afghanistan.”

    Clearly the “lamestream media” has a built in bias. It selectively reports and supports, to a great extent, the “conventional wisdom” on many issues, and seeks to side-line or deflect many insightful and challenging ideas which do not comport with the official narrative. The instance which you have cited is just one example amongst many. Well – why would they want to report the dirt going on in the “national interest” of making lucrative arms deals with a torturous regime? Why – such kind of irresponsible reporting could do great damage, and worse yet – might even give some credence to the pariah – one Craig Murray.

  52. Words such as “miscalculation”, “error”, and “misjudgment” are oftentimes used to describe the decision to bomb and invade Afghanistan.

    We in the West are truly hypocritical. The US needs a fig-leaf to cover the true intentions of spilling blood to run a pipeline across Afghanistan, while simultaneously trying militarily to procure geo-political advantage. But – wonderful and appealing words and phrases such as “freedom” and “democracy” and “human rights” are all so decent and civilized, while the slaughter that is the reality of the war in Afghanistan, might otherwise incite any person of conscience simply to shout – JUST GET THE FUCK OUT – LET YOUNG SOLDIERS LIVE TO SEE THEIR GRANDCHILDREN – AND JUST STOP BOMBING AND SLAUGHTERING THE AFGHANS!
    PEACE!

  53. @ geomannie
    “NATO, including the UK, needs to transit Uzbekistan to get its 14,000 vehicles out of Afghanistan”
    “I am not sure I fully understand the logic. Yes, of course you can export the 14,000 to Uzbekistan but then what? You have 14,000 vehicles land-locked in a country surrounded by such beacons of freedom as Turmenistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan.”
    Yes – I read Craig’s post and the same thoughts flashed through my mind. I then googled the map of surrounding countries to Afghanistan and Uzbekistan to make sure that my recollection and thought processes were not wrong. Thus, again, I agree geomannie – I simply don’t get the logic on this one. I confess – I am a lawyer and not a person with military training – so anyone out there who has the explanation ( Craig included) – do explain – please.

  54. It is amazing that although the information was on the FCO and MOD website, only a blog like the one above took it up. So much for the corporate media. I refuse to call it mainstream.
    .
    http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/DefencePolicyAndBusiness/DefenceMinistersVisitCentralAsianCountries.htm

  55. @ geomannie and Courteney,
    it’s simply expensive and time consuming. Besides, Passerby has given a good reasoning on why they have decided to withdraw through land.

  56. boniface goncourt

    21 Mar, 2012 - 9:05 pm

    Uzbek in riposte to me on previous thread re Quran booze, you ignore the numerous promises to the faithful of getting sloshed in heaven, with wine and houris. Also – “SURA XVI.-THE BEE [LXXIII.]
    And among fruits ye have the palm and the vine, from which ye get wine and healthful nutriment.” There is no mention of ‘intoxicants’ in the Quran, or of ‘alcohol’ – as yet unidentified – only of ‘wine’. Hence, pedants can drink all the beer and vodka they want, which, in my experience in ultra-pious Eastern Turkey, they do. If the teaching on booze actually changes through the Quran, I’d be really vexed with a sky pixie who can’t make up his mind.
    Happily, since ‘allah’ exists only in the right hemisphere of the brain, and the Koran is the raving of a certifiable lunatic, sensible people need pay no attention.

  57. Courtenay – You appear to think that the other ‘stans might impede our objectives. Let me reassure you; nice Mr. Hammond is quite at home talking to obviously deranged dictators and will let no opportunity slip, whether it is exports, Central Asian gas and oil, military hardware, or a little logistics problem.
    http://en.hrsu.org/archives/1418#more-1418

  58. Turkish beer is pretty good – Efes Pilsen – and the state raki (Yeni Raki -sorry haven’t got the Turk font up-) is to die for. They’re working on the wine, too. But please note, it is at least nominally (East of Kayseri, very nominally) a secular state

  59. For Russkies watching the scramble for getting out of Dodge on the last train out of Tashkent, is a scene that conjures an all too warm feelings of contentment of schadenfreude.
    ,
    Hell, they may even sweeten the deal with throwing in cheap diesel for the locos, seeing as the pipelinistan dreams have come to naught.
    ,
    The great white warriors trundled in thorough Pakistan, and are now planning to skulk away from Uzbekistan, why would any Russian ask for money?

  60. Anyone recollect the horror stories of the airline passengers in the early days of the break up of USSR?
    ,
    Is history repeating itself in more than one way?
    ,

    262 United Airlines, China-bound travelers stranded 2 days in Anchorage

  61. Privatisation in our courts of law. The Min of ‘Justice’ have outsourced court interpreting. A shambles. Perhaps shades of things to come as the NHS privatisation takes effect?
    .
    ‘The Law Society fears this is leading ALS to employ linguists with no qualifications or experience. There have been incidents of interpreters not turning up to court, not speaking English, and ++even pets being registered as interpreters++, BBC London has learned.’
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17463036

  62. Very occasionally, pleasant things crop up on the BBC website. This is a set of 100 year old photographs of the Russian Empire taken by a pioneering photographer called Prokudin-Gorskii who devised a three filter colour system for glass plates.

    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-17449958

  63. Thanks for that, Mary! Good catch. Seems that digital techniques have enabled the recreation of good images from Prokudin-Gorsky’s rather tricky method…google P-G and see his Wiki entry which contains a magnificent picture of the last emir of Bukhara.

  64. Thanks Komodo. The Emir was a big boy wasn’t he and aren’t the colours amazingly vivid?
    .
    Your link led me to the online site. These of Samarkand (and other places on the search box) will interest Craig and others here.
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    http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=uzbekistan%20samarqand&co=prok&sg=true

  65. You tend to think of the 19th century Russian Empire as being either black and white or badly painted, don’t you? Fascinating record of what it really looked like, and I’d never heard of it.

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  67. Interesting arse-licking post, Gwent. Most interesting was right at the end with reference to Tethys Petroleum, a Guernsey-registered company investing in Uzbekistan with some influential (mostly Cambridge-educated) execs, including Sir Peter Lilley, and a Russ Hammond, who I have not been able to tie in with Sir Philip, but don’t discount a connection.
    .
    http://www.tethyspetroleum.com/tethys/static/EN_US/au_bod.html
    .
    How badly will offshore petroleum companies like Tethys and Tony Buckingham’s Heritage Oil suffer under Osborne’s new measures to punish the rich? You’ve guessed it!

  68. There is also a Julian Hammond on Tethys’ board, John. And Tethys rings another bell. Research in progress.

  69. Thanks Komodo, I noticed that, but he seems to have been US educated – not that that means anything in this day and age.
    .
    By the way, I thought of you this morning, there’s a BBC deadly species programme just previewed which features Komodo dragons chasing somebody called Backshall (I think). Now if it were Tony Buckingham, or other wicked prey, vegetarian though I am, I would say “Get them teeth in!”

  70. Whistle blowers punished
    ,

    Two members of staff have been suspended over claims an NHS board manipulated waiting times figures to meet targets.
    ,
    The suspension comes after Nicola Sturgeon told parliament NHS Lothian “betrayed” patients by marking them as unavailable to artificially reduce the number in breach of statutory waiting times guarantees.

  71. England is a fascist state, ‘led’ by a fascist, David Cameron.
    .
    ‘This opportunity was missed, and a recently retired former senior civil servant, Sir Alex Allan, was appointed through a closed recruitment process, which only became public knowledge after the event.

    The committee concludes that the independent adviser lacks independence in practice, as he is appointed personally by the prime minister, is supported from within the Cabinet Office, and cannot instigate his own investigations.

    It finds that the way Allan was appointed – through a closed process – was unsuitable, and questions Allan’s appointment.
    .
    “At present, the title of independent adviser is a misnomer,” the report states, adding: “We do not in any way question Sir Alex’s integrity, ability or commitment, but neither he nor the role to which he has been appointed is independent of government in any meaningful sense.”
    .
    In evidence, Sir Christopher Kelly, the chairman of the committee on standards in public life, told the committee he believed Cameron had probably broken the ministerial code in not using Mawer.’
    […]
    ‘An alternative draft of the report, written by the Labour MP Paul Flynn, called for further investigations of the prime minister’s decision to bring in O’Donnell to run the inquiry.

    “There is powerful evidence that using Sir Gus O’Donnell to carry out the swift investigation was a decision taken to hide the whole truth in order to satisfy political expediency and avoid political embarrassment to the coalition,” he wrote.’
    .
    .
    I ask again, Where is the law?

  72. Yeah, (Jeffrey) Russell Hammond seems to have Canadian antecedents and (oil) connections, while Philip is more a UK health”care” kinda guy CMA Consultants (consultant, Phil). I’m sure he ties in nicely with Fox, though. Maybe some defunct healthcare shells with backstreet maildrops, too, but I really can’t be bothered looking…Caledonia Oil and Gas (director, Phil) acquired Consort Resources (director, Phil) and Lehman Bros paid Phil some money for his services to that deal. But it was stictly N. Sea, not a whisper of the ‘stans. Caledonia is now part of E.ON. *Makes sign of cross*. The Hintze connection’s more interesting, IMO

  73. Russ Hammond on another energy company. John.
    .
    Russ Hammond, Director
    .
    Mr. Hammond is an independent businessman with over 30 years’ experience providing venture capital to firms in the natural resource and energy sectors. Mr. Hammond is also director of Eco Recycling Systems Ltd., an environmental services company since 2000.
    .
    Mr. Hammond is a director of Tethys Petroleum Ltd., an independent energy company operating in Central Asia since 2006.
    .
    Mr. Hammond served as Chairman of Terrenex and its predecessor from 1995 to 2008. He is director and founder of CanArgo since July 1998, and a director of Cadiz Inc., an agricultural and water development company from 1991 to 1998.
    .
    Mr. Hammond has been self-employed since 1986. From 1974 to 1985 he was an equity partner in the British brokerage firm, W. Greenwell & Co., and from 1985 to 1986 was Managing Director of Greenwell-Montague Securities following the firm’s acquisition by the Midland Bank.
    .
    Mr. Hammond holds a Bachelors’ degree in Economics from Cambridge University.
    .

    http://www.questerre.com/en/aboutus/directors/ photo inc.
    Chairman based in Oslo. Company address Canada. Frackers.

  74. Uzbek in the UK

    22 Mar, 2012 - 12:38 pm

    John Goss
    .
    Those are British businesses and I guess British MP had right to pay visit to them. I am more concerned with her paying a visit to organisation that is aimed to defend Human Rights of Uzbek citizens BUT headed by the lawyer known as one of the nastiest advocates of Karimov’s brutality.

    I personally have no problem with foreign companies in Uzbekistan as at least they (US and European companies in particular) pay Uzbeks with more decent salaries than local companies or public employees.
    .
    Mr Murray himself once referenced BAT (British American Tobacco) which was concerned with Uzbek government law that denied them paying Uzbek workers more or less decent salaries. And I can believed that this was true. According to Uzbek law foreign employees must pay locals certain amount (usually only up to 20 times more than minimum salary which equals to 8-10 USD) and only in national currency SUM. Back in 2003 (when Mr Murray was an Envoy) state exchange rate of US dollar to SUM was 4 times lower than the black market rate. BAT had to exchange dollars to SUMs by state rate (already losing 4 times the value) and then pay Uzbek workers salaries in SUMs. So in summary, if Uzbek worker employed by BAT was paid 200USD in fact they have been paid in SUM the amount which allowed them to purchase ONLY 50 USD in black market.
    .
    And this is not BAT’s fault but Uzbek government’s that does not allow Uzbek workers to be paid decent salaries. Uzbek government is the one that creates such conditions that only enriches them, and not investors or those who are employed by investors.

  75. O/T (completely)
    Light relief.
    .
    [Mod: Link disabled due to tracking cookie / persistent adverts, see Komodo’s further comment at 23 Mar, 9:01 am below.]
    .
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    “Your Own Personal Rocket Fuel For Remarkable Christian Growth”
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  76. Komodo,
    (You save $4,649.00)
    ,
    Rocket fuel for rapture, is the only discounted fuel of any kind these days. Well spotted!!!!! BTW, who could have bought the originally priced $4,997.97?

  77. Uzbek in the UK

    22 Mar, 2012 - 1:40 pm

    @ Passerby
    .
    I guess Puritan missionary charges (killing non-puritans all over the world) have been included into the original price. It was until then when smarter Puritans discovered that missionary can be financed by simpler way-public borrowing. No need for surcharges then.

  78. What astonished me was that the Covenanters seem to be hanging on. And it’s a good time to be a Covenanter, with sermons discounted from $5.99 to $0.99! Praise!

  79. My guess is these Hammonds may be connected in some way with John Hays Hammond, an explorer and mineral speculator.
    .
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hays_Hammond

  80. The next time anyone buys fruit or vegetables labelled Grown in Israel, they should remember that the produce is mostly grown on land stolen from the Palestinians and that Palestinian child labour is being used.
    .
    ‘A report (in Arabic) published by Maan reveals that between 500 and 1,000 Palestinian children work for Israeli settlers in the Jordan Valley – some as young as 13. Many of the children are from the Jordan Valley – others come from different parts of the occupied West Bank. They pick, clean and package fruit and vegetables. The children have to work in the simmering summer heat of 50 degrees Celsius and also in the cold of winter when the temperature drops to 0 degrees Celsius. They start work as early as 5.30 in the morning and continue until two o’clock in the afternoon. They drop out of school because the work hours overlap with school hours.’
    .
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/adri-nieuwhof/poverty-drives-palestinian-children-work-israels-agricultural-settlement
    .
    There seems to be very little difference here from the young children being used in Karimov’s cotton production.

  81. Uzbek in the UK

    22 Mar, 2012 - 3:12 pm

    @ Mary
    .
    One point to add is that Uzbek children are forced to work not only because poverty drives them, but because they are forced to work as slaves. Children in Uzbekistan are not actually paid at all as most of the money is pocketed by either local governor’s office or police.
    .
    Products contributed by children slave labour not only have to be boycotted but prohibited.

  82. Gideon Osborne is boasting of his success in getting Glaxo Snmith Kline to enlarge their UK operations. Does anyone know if GSK have had any inducements like going to an enterprise zone or given grants?
    .
    Dissident Voice have been on Big Pharma’s case for several years. Here are some of the articles – Paxil, Avandia, etc etc.
    .
    http://dissidentvoice.org/search/?cx=004699754223191941067%3Adjkep-0myaa&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=glaxo+smith+kline&sa=Search

  83. Yes Uzbek – I remember a very good BBC documentary which showed that they were taken from school. Part of it is on the link.
    .
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7068096.stm

  84. Another example of what happens when the work of a state service (DWP) is handed out to the ‘private sector’. Fraud, inefficiency and a cover up. The management were too busy counting their £millions to do anything about it.
    .
    22 March 2012 Last updated at 18:03
    .
    Leaked document suggests ‘systematic fraud’ at A4e
    Newsnight’s Paul Mason explains the latest evidence about allegations of fraud at A4e
    .
    Welfare-to-work firm A4e knew of widespread potential fraud and systematic failures by management to control it, a leaked document suggests.
    .
    BBC Newsnight has obtained the results of a confidential 2009 internal audit of work by A4e’s top recruiters.
    .
    The auditors found examples of staff claiming for putting people into jobs which did not exist, jobs which did not qualify for payment and fabricating paperwork to back up claims.
    .
    A4e has so far declined to comment.

    ./…
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17476415
    /..http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17476415

  85. Was Mohammed Merah Another Underware Bomber?
    .
    Merah was handled by France’s DCRI intelligence service “for years,” (2008) according to Claude Guéant, the French interior minister.
    .
    MSM claims that Merah was imprisoned in Afghanistan for planting bombs have been denied by Kandahar prison chief Ghulam Faruq and an intelligence official in Pakistan said, “we have no information on him” and he was never arrested. Apart from emails and computer files I have no definitive proof that Merah murdered anyone!
    .
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/21/us-france-shootings-afghanistan-idUSBRE82K17Y20120321

  86. Mary wrote: “I ask again, Where is the law?”
    .
    A wise man commented
    .
    The law is “in the basement, in a locked filing cabinet located in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard’” (D Adams THHGTTG)

  87. Nice analysis Mr Murray. You’re were obviously wasted as a diplomat.
    .
    Here’s one from MK Bhadrakumar at the Asia Times. Seems like our boys are in a land far, far away without a paddle out. We should admire Mr Hammond. The job requires a very prehensile tounge:
    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NC20Df04.html

  88. Its an Elite`ist state not fascist.
    ,
    Evidently fascism is a good idea, and racial and tribal segregation ought to be accepted and legislated for to, ie apartheid rules OK. Immigration, and Globalization ought to be the give away signs. Although, when it comes to supremacist fuckwitery. This we know to be the favoured policies of a certain tribe are pretty hung up on “racial purity”.
    ,
    Has Hintze began sweeting up to bloggers too?
    ,

  89. Roderick Russell

    22 Mar, 2012 - 11:02 pm

    @ Mary ” I ask again, Where is the law?” — A question I have been posing for several years now. If you find it, please let me know.

  90. Thanks fed up.

    Have you got any answers why is this world so crazy.

    Why cant we all get a long and work together and serve the planet .

    Nature is what we all should be harmonising.

    fed up too

  91. Jay,
    Give over, your colors are not what you claim to be. Good enough for tossers who still are fighting the WWII though, (how many survivors are left?) so last century.
    ,

  92. like so-called Shoe Bomber, Richard Reid from (Haaretz 22 March):

    Report: Suspect in French Jewish school shooting visited Israel
    According to a report published in Le Monde on Thursday, Merah was not a member of any well-known Islamic terrorist organization, but did undergo a process of radicalization. Merah also reportedly had entry stamps to Israel and other countries in the region in his passport.
    Merah was also added to a “no fly” list maintained by U.S. authorities some time ago, two American officials told Reuters…
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-suspect-in-french-jewish-school-shooting-visited-israel-1.420249

  93. Another example of what happens when the work of a state service (DWP) is handed out to the ‘private sector’. Fraud, inefficiency and a cover up. The management were too busy counting their £millions to do anything about it.
    .
    22 March 2012 Last updated at 18:03
    .
    Leaked document suggests ‘systematic fraud’ at A4e
    Newsnight’s Paul Mason explains the latest evidence about allegations of fraud at A4e
    .
    Welfare-to-work firm A4e knew of widespread potential fraud and systematic failures by management to control it, a leaked document suggests.
    .
    BBC Newsnight has obtained the results of a confidential 2009 internal audit of work by A4e’s top recruiters.
    .
    The auditors found examples of staff claiming for putting people into jobs which did not exist, jobs which did not qualify for payment and fabricating paperwork to back up claims.
    .
    A4e has so far declined to comment.

    ./…
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17476415

  94. Gideon Osborne is boasting of his success in getting Glaxo Smith Kline to enlarge their UK operations. Does anyone know if GSK have had any inducements like an enterprise zone or grants?
    .
    Dissident Voice have been on Big Pharma’s case for several years. Here are some of the articles on GSK drugs – Paxil, Avandia, etc etc.
    .
    http://tinyurl.com/7fmkv29
    .

    PS Jay’s earlier link to a right wing site article on fascism is complete BS. Just wait a while to see the full effect of this UK fascist government. Elitist my eye!

  95. The destructive effect of poison-Gove.
    .
    23 March 2012
    .
    More than half of secondary heads ‘consider quitting’
    The Association of School and college leaders says morale has reached a new low
    .
    Related Stories
    No-notice inspections for schools
    Gove condemns academy opponents
    ‘No evidence’ for school decline
    .
    Over half of secondary heads are considering quitting because of “toxic” government rhetoric, a survey suggests.
    .
    The Association of School and College Leaders blamed a barrage of unfounded criticism for low morale, as its annual conference begins in Birmingham.
    .
    ASCL general secretary Brian Lightman said heads felt angry, frustrated and on the verge of being bullied.
    .
    A government spokesman said it wanted to work with head teachers to achieve a world class education system
    .
    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17478828

  96. WARNING: SUB-MALWARE.
    I linked to the P*r*t*n H*rd Dr*ve above. Only go there if you want ads for this ridiculous product to pop up on every site you visit. It drops a cookie (or maybe Google does) which runs a advert script replacing an ad on the page you open.
    If you did go to the PHD site,and are seeing PHD ads everywhere, delete your cookies, and the problem should not recur.
    Very sorry for this, it’s not always possible to check these things in advance, and it further confirms my low opinion of evangelical Crosstians.

  97. Komodo

    I hope it does`nt put you off going to the link in post 22 Mar, 2012 – 9:46 pm.

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