The BBC believes that Kate Middleton’s tits are a more important story than western diplomats in danger of their lives all over the Middle East. Says it all about today’s BBC, really.
Killing people is not the solution to the World’s problems. Killing diplomats is particularly heinous as they are guests in a country, and are charged with keeping open the lines of peaceful communication between nations. Almost certainly Ambassador Stevens and his staff deplored the making and distribution of hate videos, and absolutely certainly they had nothing to do with it. Nor do the diplomats under seige today in Yemen, Sudan and Egypt.
Oliver Miles, the extremely sensible former British Ambassador to Libya, while deploring attacks on Embassies and their staff, made the obvious point on Sky News yesterday that America’s unflinching support for an expansionist Israel was the root cause of hostile attitudes to the USA acroos the Middle East. His interview was instantly terminated.
Miles’ observation is true, as it is true that direct and killing intervention by the US in Libya and Yemen has caused the situations that are now blowing back – often with US supplied or at least encouraged weaponry. But yet again, none of that justifies the racist attacks on westerners. Just as all Muslims were not responsible for Islamic terrorists, so all westerners are not responsible for the far right purveyors of anti-Muslim hatred.
All decent people must despair at the prospect of yet another cycle of violence. Powerful interests both in the West and in the Middle East are not amongst those decent people.
Of all the signals the West could send out to try to end the horrors wrought by the promoters of the “Clash of civilisations”, the most powerful would be to arraign Bush and Blair for war crimes. This is not a deluded hope of idealists; it is an essential step if the world is ever to heal.
Several sources have said on Al Jazeera that the ambassador left the US consulate alive. A second attack occurred either (or both) on the fleeing car or at a safe house. The ambassador’s body was then brought to a hospital in Tripoli.
The suggestion was that a second attack team may have known the “escape plan” and lain in wait.
Haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere other than Al Jazeera.
sorry “brought to a hospital in Benghazi” above.
I am sure you know why Alan?!
“This is the typical twaddle of someone who has made up his mind about what everyone is and should be angry about and thinks that that is what they ARE angry about.”
Good point Angrysober – blunt and ‘too’ the point?!
I believe from my own source that is true ‘Anon’ hence my previous post held this as conspiracy truth.
Considering that both Moses and Jesus are central figures in Islam as prophets/messengers of God, it might just be a matter of time before some group decides that those publishing cartoons like the one in The Onion, end up as targets…
Phil 3.51pm
Is that ..’the Hague is a tool of the empire’ or ‘Hague is a tool of the empire’? Both apply.
LOL
Latest information on the Benghazi attack indicates it had nothing to do with the offensive anti-Islam film, but a planned attack by heavily armed and well trained fighters from the city of Derna – a known hotspot for anti-western militants. The attacks (one on the consulate and one on a safe house where the ambassador had been taken) were coordinated and may have been in retaliation for the killing of a senior al Qaeda operative by a US drone strike in Pakistan. A Derna group which names itself after the ‘blind sheik’ who currently imprisoned in the US for his part in the first World Trade Center bombing, and has claimed responsibility for a previous strike on the US consulate in Benghazi, is likely responsible for the Ambassador’s murder.
At most, protests about the film were merely used as a screen by the attackers.
“Of all the signals the West could send out to try to end the horrors wrought by the promoters of the “Clash of civilisations”, the most powerful would be to arraign Bush and Blair for war crimes. This is not a deluded hope of idealists; it is an essential step if the world is ever to heal.”
It might even appeal to Blair’s Naaaarcissism, if he were to be seen making that magnanimous martyr’s gesture, in accord with his new found Catholicism.
We could change Easter to celebrate his immolation to expiate the sins of the Nomenklatura.
“Forgive them Mandy, for they know not what they do.”
The trend towards lawlessness in the international affairs was certainly started with the terrible twins Bu$h and Blair, and has been since kicked up in gear to the current hopeless situation.
There seems to be too many people out with differing axes for graining away on their own pet agenda. There are the “fundamentalist Atheists” who are as zealous as the next religious guy along, about their none religious way of life, and are sort of the Jehovah Witness in reverse trying to unconvert all religious people whom they come across.
Then there are the ziofuckwits who are on mobilised to cover-up for the instigators of this current mess and blame anyone they can in the way of deflecting attention from the stupid stunts of their tribesmen.
On the other hand fact that diplomats are dead, schools are set alight, fast food outlets ransacked, and embassies are coming under attack to the oh so “intellectuals” may appear as organised attempts in retaliation. That is despite the random nature of the targets and the scope of countries and regions that have been put on the war path.
These so called “intellectuals” somehow have forgotten that human beings are autonomous and sentient beings that will lash out against any offensive operation launched by their tormentors and enemies.
Therefore, to see the seething swathes of the Muslims lashing out, in fact is telling of the degrees of success of the West in compromising their puppet leaderships that have so far ruled the Muslim world to the extent that the standard Muslim in the street no longer is prepared to leave the retaliation, preservation and or reaction to their relevant governments and instead take the matter into their own hands.
The swathes of people whom have been attacking these various and random targets that all have one facet in common and that is these represent the Western interests in their lands. This is a far removed scenario from the organised violence that Western plutocrats are reliant on to coerce their perceived target victim groups into yielding to their demands.
Fact that US, UK et al have been ganging up on the Muslims for the duration of the last decade as well as the seven decades of shit that the ziofuckwits have been raining on the area have brought about a powder keg that any additional threats/offensives are the triggers that would yield the kind of Muslim retaliation we witness today.
Although to the addled and docile “intellectuals” the notion of masses rising up and fighting back are alien notions, and a more plausible explanation is the idea of a rent mob, sort of story. These addled morons also can never work out why the levels of violence on individual has been on the rise year on year in the Western societies neither.
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A Bunch of Tits
if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear
and if you hide nothing then sue for your own indiscretions
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The royal rot has gone back to the top of the BBC home page.
Ignorance has ignited violence. As a muslim, I don’t care what non-muslims say or ridicule my religion or prophets, because I believe they will get their punishment for insulting and ridiculing the religion of God. Moreover, Allah says in the Quran to be patient to the insults from non-believers. The Quran also teaches: “O you who believe, show integrity for the sake of Allah, bearing witness with justice. Do not let hatred for a people incite you to injustice. Be just. That is closer to heedfulness. Heed Allah. Allah is aware of what you do”. (Surat al-Ma’ida, 8, translation.)
The violence that has erupted in sufism dominated parts of the islamic world against stupid filmmaking by provocators once again proved dangers of making changes in the religion. Look at Qatar, Saudi Arabia. No violence even if the film is very insulting and stupidly low in moral. Why? Because there is knowledge of Islam in those countries.
dead diplomat, boo hoo, wasn’t his country dropping bombs all over Libya a little while ago?
Did his diplomatic duties implicate him in that?
Maybe his killers lost relatives in the bombings a lot of people did?
He was a diplomat during the Gadafi period. And he was implicated in America sending Libyan dissidents and their wives and the children to Gadafi to be tortured, raped and killed.
I cry no tears for him. I’m sure Germany had diplomats in their countries they occupied. Don’t know if any were killed by the resistance. But if they were I am sure the occupied let the Germans cry for their own, while the occupied cried for themselves.
I cry for the millions and Iraq and Afghanistan. So his own country and the neocons can cry for him.
Craig I don’t share your view about him. That would indicate that diplomats are a bunch of saints. While the truth is they are a bunch of stooges.
What you did in Uzbeckistan was the exception and not the rule. Your duties were to cover up the people being boiled alive, and you lost your job because you publicised them.
Under Gadafi his duties included arranging for people and their families to be handed over to gadafi for rape torture and execution. He didn’t loss his Job for not doing it. This tells me he did a very good Job of it. And then, when Gadafi lost life, so did this diplomat. Boo hoo. Chickens come home to roast. His death doesn’t make me Happy, it doesn’t make me sad. I just don’t give a shiit. I careless about it then I do about Kates tits. Let his own people cry about him, while I cry about my own people
Arsalan,
I do not agree with you. We don’t do lynching diplomats whatever sins they are involved in. Moreover, in this case, US ambbassador had nothing to do with the idiotic film which was the subject of this violence. Your mentioning of bombing is different matter not related to the film or burning embassies.
“I’m sure Germany had diplomats in their countries they occupied. Don’t know if any were killed by the resistance”
Heydrich, perhaps 🙂
Well only the killer knows his own motivation. Anything else is guess work. But what ever it was it is America’s problem. Not mine. So I will not be crying corcodile tears for an evil man working for an evil country. He may not have had anything to do with the film. But what did he have something to do with?
Did he have something to do with the drone attacks where they are now killing the people that were America’s allies against Gadafi who America has decided are just a little bit too Islamic to remain alive now Gadafi is gone?
I am not justifying his killing. I am just stating. I don’t care about it! I don’t see what the big deal is. millions of brown people get killed by America each year. Without any comment from anyone. Why is this guy so deserving of comment?
We’ll let his own people comment about him, while we comment about our own dead.
Malcolm X explains this well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIkr-h_twwg
Anyway, I am not sure this is a murder. Just a Demo that resulted in property damage. Fire caused. And people died. Should have invested in smoke Alarms. Bloody hell, you can buy them for less than £5. And America is the richest country.
Blooody stingy bastards.
It’s funny, I thought the drone strikes would generate this kind of reaction.
Their patience has run out and people power is pretty scary.
The supply chain for US hegemony depends on a whole lot of muslims.
They should be keeping them sweet !
Personally I don’t think sacrificing Blair would help, but since he is Mid east Peace envoy, I feel he should.He’d become a martyr, maybe even a Saint.
I think we should set up a yougov petition for blear to do the right thing and turn himself in to a martyr. maybe if he did Self-immolation in the olympic stadium to stop all this film rioting. I know I wouldn’t do any film rioting if he was going to do that. I’d be too busy buying tickets, and popcorn! And maybe something to drink while I watch. Watching blear burn himself, would be thirsty work. And I bet the Gov would be able to get back all the money they lost on the Olympics by selling tickets and TV riots to that show, not to mention the advertising?
What about the murchandising! I bet they can pay for all the banker bailouts they want by Blear Candle sales alone? And what about the Blear fire works? We can have another bonfire day. Except in this one the Gov gets a share of the sales? Win win, better get signing!
Arsalan, it’s not a case of what rights or wrongs a government exercises, it is more a case of an embassy being, in a way a sanctuary, somewhere where people are helped in a foreign country, whether that help is something minor like obtaining a travel visa, or more important, like seeking protection from an oppressive regime (as in Assange’s case). To breach that sanctuary with arms and kill its staff, is like attacking a mosque, temple or abbey that might be acting as a safe haven.
When I was cycling through Turkey on a very hot day I came to a village where I took shelter from the sun. Here I was approached by a young boy of say 10 or 11. A fully-laden bike in that village must have been quite a novelty. I gave him some post-cards I had bought in the mosques of Istanbul and sat in the shade to eat food I had made earlier and take in some fluid to replace what I had lost through sweating. A little later an Imam, a man with a big scar across one of his eyes, and the eye itself dead, all of which created a contorted face, came up to me and beckoned for me to come with him. His face was contorted but I could sense that here was a devout man.
He made it known he was the Imam by pointing to himself and saying ‘Imam’. I wheeled my bike with him to the Mosque, a newish building with a minaret, and thought he was going to take me in and show me round. But what he wanted to show me was the old mosque which was situated behind the new one. In this huge domed building were lots of people who evidently lived there, and I presume that was where the boy lived too. They were poor people. But they had sanctuary. For me it was a moving moment, almost spiritual. I had taken sanctuary from a relentless sun, I had been shown another kind of sanctuary for poor people, and I learnt something of the importance of having places where people could go and feel secure. That too is how I like to think of embassies, as safe and helpful havens.
This is why the Swedish embassy in Phnom Penh is getting other embassies a bad name. It was first posted yesterday by VagueHague
https://torrentfreak.com/sweden-kidnapped-my-friend-pirate-bay-co-founder-anakata-120810/
You could have at least attached a link to the tits story!
Harrym, I’ve seen better.
Sorry William,,,,,,, she’s just not my type.
“Killing people is not the solution to the World’s problems. Killing diplomats is particularly heinous as they are guests in a country, and are charged with keeping open the lines of peaceful communication between nations.” ….. “Of all the signals the West could send out to try to end the horrors wrought by the promoters of the “Clash of civilisations”, the most powerful would be to arraign Bush and Blair for war crimes. This is not a deluded hope of idealists; it is an essential step if the world is ever to heal.”
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Are both Blair and Bush not diplomats too? And is it not the case, Craig, …..
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Or do politicians and diplomats just follow orders from ……. well, whom would you imagine? Care to share any real names?
Dutch,
The two bit soap opera video was calculated to foment passions and bulldoze, intimidate and bully President Obama and his team’s reluctance to green light direct NATO involvement in Syria and pooh-pooh an Israeli strike on Iran nuclear facilities.
It was carried out by Israeli intelligence using paid proxy thugs with at least one English speaking ringleader according to my own source.
The BBC pantomine continues.Oh no it doesnt. Oh yes it does.
Al Qaeda – the root of all evil for the last ten years – now friends to the west. They may occasionally kill a few foreign ambassadors and can be a bit naughty sometimes, but its ok, they’re helping the Syrian terrorists to attack their own government
etc etc etc,on and on it goes….until we stop it
Arsalan,
I would cry tears for this ambassador. A good man and an excellent diplomat, he was used as a pawn by his own countries ally to force the hand and write to history in the blood of his demise.
Adnan Latif died at Guantánamo on Saturday, after being held over 10 years without charge—despite a judge’s order that he be released.
Latif protested his treatment with a hunger strike and poetry; these lines were cleared by government censors and serve as a tragic reminder of the urgent need to end indefinite detention and close the prison:
“Hunger Strike Poem”
They are artists of torture,
They are artists of pain and fatigue,
They are artists of insults
and humiliation.
Where is the world to save us
from torture?
Where is the world to save us
from the fire and sadness?
Where is the world to save
the hunger strikers?
What happened to Adnan Latif?
He was held for over 10 years without charge, even though he was reportedly recommended by U.S. officials for transfer out of Department of Defense custody in 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2009.
He alleged that he was held in solitary confinement for the majority of his detention at Guantánamo, and that he was beaten, strangled, abused and denied medical care.
In 2010, a federal judge ruled that Latif’s detention was unlawful and that he should be released. But the Obama administration appealed, and Latif lost.
On June 11, 2012, the Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear Latif’s appeal, and he remained held without charge, hopeless about resolution of his case.
Latif’s attorney, David Remes, said “He was so fragile, he was so tormented that it would not surprise me if he had committed suicide. However you look at it, it was Guantánamo that killed him.”
Moving forward
There was always another path available to the U.S. government for handling Adnan Latif and other detainees–and for ensuring justice for the September 11 attacks–one without the human rights violations of indefinite detention, kangaroo courts and abuse: fair trial or release.
It’s not too late for the U.S. government to change course: either charge and fairly try the Guantánamo detainees in U.S. federal court, or release them to countries that will respect their human rights.
@Jon Goss 14 Sep, 2012 – 6:47 pm
“Arsalan, it’s not a case of what rights or wrongs a government exercises, it is more a case of an embassy being, in a way a sanctuary, somewhere where people are helped in a foreign country.”
What a daft assertion, that is even contradicted by the link you provided. Embassy’s exist to further the dirty business of government. Even when providing sanctuary. Do you imagine Assange would have been welcomed in, say, the French embassy?
“Monsieur Assange, bien sur, although this might upset Washington we must always honour the ancient cry for sanctuary!”
Nice, but entirely irrelevant, story of your holiday where you met poor people though.
Quite correct Chris and I empathise your words. Maybe we should stop it, perhaps combine, unite, band together and close ranks. Call ourselves the ‘Weathermen’… –
Oh yes we will – Oh no we won’t. Let’s just sit on our back-sides tapping keyboards, googling facts, formulating responses, conjuring paragraphs, waiting, gathering wool and do f-all.