Yvette Cooper is Lying 336


Yvette Cooper has continually lied about Palestine Action in a panicked attempt to defend the proscription of a direct action protest group which is opposing a Genocide in which Cooper’s government is deeply complicit.

Cooper and other government ministers have repeatedly claimed:

  • Palestine Action attacks people, not just weapons-making equipment
  • Palestine Action is funded by Iran or another hostile power
  • Palestine Action attacks Jewish-owned businesses based on racism
  • Palestine Action has plans for future unspecified appalling terrorist acts

In fact none of this is backed up by the assessment of the government’s Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre which forms the basis of the proscription of Palestine Action.

The Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) is not a committee which meets occasionally, but a permanently staffed organisation with premises inside MI5 HQ in Millbank. The JTAC consists of representatives of:

MI5 – the Security Service
MI6 – the Special Intelligence Service
GCHQ – electronic and communications surveillance
DIS – the Defence Intelligence Service
Customs & Excise Special Operations
The Border Force
Metropolitan Police Counter-Terrorism Command
The Home Office
The Foreign and Commonwealth Office
The Ministry of Defence
The Department of Transport

Ten other ministries are included on an ad hoc basis.

All reports of the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre must be approved by consensus of all involved.

It is of course vitally important that all of these bodies are under ministerial control. The object of the exercise is to produce the result desired by ministers, i.e. proscription, justified only on available true facts and a legally tenable argument under the current legislation.

I attach the declassified version of the JTAC report, which has been “gisted” for use in court proceedings.

“Gisted” means it has gone through a process known as “sanitisation”. This means that all the key information has been retained, but in a form which protects the source.

Before I explain this to you I should explain that I once headed the FCO section of an extremely similar operation, not JTAC but ESC. The Embargo Surveillance Centre had very similar membership, was composed of almost exactly the same parties and was also primarily involved in assessing and producing reports and “action-on” from top secret intelligence.

I wrote daily gisted reports and cleared the “sanitisation” with the intelligence service representatives on a daily basis.

The purpose is to protect your source. You cannot give out information so specific that it can cause those under surveillance to say “Oh no my phone is tapped!” or worse “Wow the only person who knew that is Jimmy. He must have told them. Jimmy is an MI5 spy”.

So you have to reduce the level of information down to something that might have a more generic origin. Rather than saying “This group is planning to carry out an attack on Ladies’ Day at Ascot”, for example, you might say “This group is planning an attack in England”.

The object is to give the highest level of information the intelligence services are comfortable in giving.

That might end up being as vague as “This group plans attacks on civilians”. But that information would obviously be vital to the court and it would be given.

In fact there is nothing whatsoever in the JTAC assessment which backs up any of the claims being put out in a panic by government ministers.

The JTAC report makes absolutely clear that its assessment of Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation is based only on the definition in the Terrorism Act, of a group that commits serious damage to property in order to influence government policy.

I pause here to note that the United Nations has intervened in the case to state that this does not meet international standards for defining terrorism. Damage to property should only be terrorism when the intent is to endanger life, such as damaging an air traffic control centre.

The JTAC report in fact notes that Palestine Action stresses its philosophy of non-violent action against people. Much is however made of one single attack (out of 385) where substantial violence against persons is alleged (though hotly denied).

But even here the JTAC report notes that the sledgehammer and axe were intended for use against machinery, an obvious fact.

I have blanked out a very small amount of the JTAC report which explicitly relates to this action in Bristol, because it is the subject of an upcoming trial and publication would be in contempt of court. The blanked-out sections take police allegations entirely as fact, even though they are hotly denied and subject to trial.

I have done this despite the fact that both government ministers and the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police have repeatedly made assertions about these events which are absolutely prejudicial to a fair trial, and were undeniably in contempt of court.

Equality before the law has disappeared in the UK.

So here is the official, otherwise unvarnished JTAC report on Palestine Action. It makes plain that government ministers are simply lying about their information. I publish it as a journalist who has been given this document and sees an overwhelming public interest in the truth being known about a matter which has caused the arrest of some thousand people in recent weeks.

  • If Palestine Action deliberately attacked people
  • If Palestine Action had foreign funding
  • If Palestine Action attacked random Jewish businesses
  • If Palestine Action planned a big terrorist act

the JTAC report would say so. It says nothing of the sort.

Palestine Action is what it says it is: a non-violent direct action group which targets the Israeli weapons industry and its support and supply line.

It states that its actions are not terrorism but direct action to prevent Genocide – and when given the chance, juries have usually sided with Palestine Action against the government.

The reason Yvette Cooper has proscribed Palestine Action is that she is a member of Labour Friends of Israel and has received £215,000 from the Zionist lobby – which is £215,000 more than Palestine Action ever received on behalf of a foreign power.

Ministers are lying to you. I have provided a little antiseptic daylight.

 

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336 thoughts on “Yvette Cooper is Lying

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    • M.J.

      I hope the Nobel Committee awards the Peace prize only for actual accomplishment. To do otherwise would bring it into disrepute.

      • glenn_nl

        They awarded O’Bomber with a prize before he did anything at all in office, virtually as he got sworn in. Even Obama himself admitted as such.

        They also gave Kissinger the prize, after that it was kind of an insult to have one.

        They awarded the Mary Bell’s prize to her supervisor, who’d actively discouraged her in her search for and discovery of pulsars.

        Pretty hit and miss all round.

        • Cornudet

          It was Jocelyn Bell Burnell who should have had the Nobel prize for Physics for discovering pulsars. I saw her give a lecture at Keele University in 1997 on her discovery – despite being a humanities student to the bone I was required to undertake a science course at subsidiary level and had chosen the astronomy course. Professor Bell Burnell spoke about the prize but seemed philosophical about it. Tom Lehrer, who passed recently, said that satire was dead in a world which gave the Nobel Peace Prize to Henry Kissinger – you make a similar point about any of the American statesman who have won it, starting with Theodore Roosevelt, who had launched an unprovoked imperial war against Spain in Cuba and supported genocide against the indigenous peoples of his land.

          • glenn_nl

            Jocelyn Bell, of course (where did ‘Mary’ come from??).

            As it happens, she gave a lecture at our local astronomical society meeting a year or so back. What impressived me was that the whole lecture was on entirely new research, completely blowing away any notion that she might be still dining out on the puslar story. But it didn’t even get mentioned.

            Even more impressively, she was asked about some strange phenomenon reported in the most recent Space magazine, and – while making it clear she wasn’t fully briefed – get a clear, understandable summary of the likely causes.

            Concerning the prize itself, she said on Radio 4’s “Life Scientific” that it didn’t concern her, particularly as she had been awarded so many other honours since then which more than made up for it.

          • Re-lapsed Agnostic

            Mary Bell was Britain’s youngest multiple murderer, Glenn, having strangled two toddlers to death in Newcastle when she was just 10. She was diagnosed with extreme criminal psychopathy, so of course they let her out when she was 23.

            Take care and enjoy the weekend.

          • Re-lapsed Agnostic

            Correction: Just checked on Wiki. She was actually convicted of two counts of manslaughter on grounds of diminished responsibility. Apologies for the error.

          • glenn_nl

            RL-A:

            Yikes, definitely not the same person then. Not unless she really turned her life around and changed her first name.

        • Brian Red

          Physics and Peace are awarded by different organisations – in Sweden and Norway respectively.

          Undoubtedly some recipients of the peace prize have done sterling work for peace.
          Nonetheless the whole thing is “ick”. In Sweden much of the population sits around the television on Nobel awards night and cooks the same meal that the royal family are having. It’s like an establishment version of Eurovision.

          There’s a Nobel in Economics. Talk about having a laugh. Maybe Jon Hunt who founded Foxtons should get it?

          Churchill was considered for Peace and then it was a case of hey, wait a minute, wasn’t he a war leader. So they gave him Literature instead.

      • Frank Hovis

        “I hope the Nobel Committee awards the Peace prize only for actual accomplishment. To do otherwise would bring it into disrepute.”

        Are you being serious?
        Just 2 names:
        1) Henry Kissinger, one of the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century (amid some very stiff competition).
        2)Barack Obomber.
        Guess what they have in common (apart from being American warmongers)?

        • MR MARK CUTTS

          ‘When his dynamite began to be used in warfare, Nobel was overcome with guilt. The idea of his invention being used to kill drove him to start a trust fund to promote the peaceful use of science. Upon his death, the bulk of his fortune created the Nobel Prize.’

          If he had lived longer the bloke would have set up a Trust Fund to stop dangerous vain politicians applying for it.

          It explains science and the MIC’s funding of science for War purposes.

          Even more so now.

          I’m not convinced that NASA is as idealist as it was.

          An interesting thing I came across is that Iran is only one of nine countries to launch a satellite into space.

          For JD Vance – he would be very taken aback to know that ‘ savages ‘ have done that.

          There was a well known News Paper Owner ( when Nobel invented the explosive) who was alleged to have said:

          ‘ Follow the story – this could be dynamite!!!’

          • Brian Red

            What makes you think NASA was ever idealist?

            It was created as a Cold War agency. That was in 1958, during the real Cold War – not the one that ignoramuses think lasted until 1991.

            It got on the telly a lot for a while. When I was a youngster I had an Airfix model of a US lunar rocket.

            Also there was the whole “management” spiel, with e.g. Gene Kranz and John Boyd.

            You gotta watch this reading by Gil Scott-Heron, author of the poem “Whitey’s On the Moon”:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otwkXZ0SmTs

            Scott-Heron gets it 100% right.

            Even if we totally disregard the military side, it’s a disgrace that so many resources have been used up on stuff like terrestrial satellites, exploring the Moon, and sending equipment to Mars, when so many people on our planet, here down on the ground, are literally starving,

  • Roy Davies

    As a former teacher I am appalled at how this so called socialist government is proceeding …. I know Blair did some dodgy things but starmer !!!! Phew can’t even begin to express my frustration at trumps b***ch
    Only through using the power of this medium and good folks like your good self will we have a chance of resisting the behemoth of the neocons
    Keep up the good work… the reservoir of hope is not dry

      • Bayard

        “Who is calling this a socialist government?”

        Sure it’s a socialist government, just a national socialist government.

    • Pyewacket

      Roy, recently I have begun to wonder, amidst my musings whether the acts by Blair and now Starmer are some kind of malign attempt, by hands unseen, to make the Labour Party un-votable for a generation or even destroy it for ever. S seems to be universally hated but he doesn’t give a flying f**k, or is he too thick to notice ?

      • Stevie Boy

        Good observation. The same could be said for the last days of the tories. Was it stupidity or did they realise their only way out was defeat.
        For any problem you need to define the problem and then have a plan to take you forward to a solution. (One reason why China is succeding whilst the west declines) My observations over the last decade is that no political party appears to have any sort of plan, that hasn’t changed, politics is a gravy train where they get on, steal what they can, and then hop off, changing nothing. Professional politicians are a major part of the problem as are political parties.
        Let’s hope and pray that Corbyn and Sultana can come up with something different, a plan would be a start.

        • Bayard

          “Was it stupidity or did they realise their only way out was defeat.”

          Next year marks the end of the 18 year property cycle. Very few governments have not been punished at the polls for the unforgivable sin of letting house prices go down. Plus the signs are there that this bust is going to make 2008 look like a walk in the park.

          • Brian Red

            If house prices collapse which clearly they will at some point, then as you imply there will be a financial mega-crash. A leftwing government should favour the nationalisation of what remains of the banks, because then it will own all the mortgages and it can exercise them and take over a large part of the housing stock. Then offer permanent tenancies at low rents to the occupiers who’d been conned by moneylenders into thinking they were the real “owners”. Since there will be practically no market, most will eventually say yes please. As for houses that are mortgage-free, offer to buy them at the price of say 1 year’s average salary for a normal-sized house, with option of permanent tenancy, always assuming the person occupies the house and doesn’t occupy any others. No state help for landlords. Did I forget to add…use buy-to-let types for target practice.

            The tabloid and especially Daily Mail crap about high and rising house prices being good for everyone is a crock of garbage that’s comparable to send-em-backism in how boneheadedly rightwing it is.

          • Bayard

            It’s amazing how many people can think that high and rising house prices are a good idea at the same time believing that more houses need to be built because high and rising house prices are preventing people “getting on the property ladder”. I suppose it’s another version of “I approve of increasing taxation in all those areas where I don’t have to pay tax”.

      • Bayard

        “S seems to be universally hated but he doesn’t give a flying f**k, or is he too thick to notice ?”

        I’ve long suspected he was hired to do exactly what you say; to destroy the Labour Party.

        • Brian Red

          Do you reckon the plan is a Reform government?

          It could be.

          But the Tories will rise from 18%, given the fact that one of the main reasons those who would otherwise vote for them are saying they’ll vote Reform is because the party’s leader is black, and Badenoch is unlikely to be leader until the next election.

          If she does stay leader until the next election, then perhaps the plan is to write off the Tory party as well as the Labour party.

          • Bayard

            “Do you reckon the plan is a Reform government?”

            Probably, while the Conservatives sort themselves out. What is definitely the plan is for perpetual badge-engineered Tory government.

          • MR MARK CUTTS

            Brian Red.

            I think the Plan is for Coalition Government – sort of a government of National Salvation like they sometimes have in more unruly areas of the world.

            A hard trick to pull off I know but, when all the Guy Ropes of the Circus Tent snap, the Clowns will blame the Ring Masters whom they are all paid for a bit and pretend it was nothing to do with them.

            Some Right Labour MPs will go along with it as welI I reckon.

            Blair would have done this if the was around.

            Send in The Clowns? – Don’t bother they’re here.

            p.s. Have you already forgotten the benefits of The Non Stick Frying Pan and The Blue Peter run on Fairy Liquid bottles to make Rockets with?

            All I had was a bar of soap and it wasn’t even Fairy Soap.

            A bit heavy for launching and ungainly.

            A bit like the Nukes, all this space flight – once others did it and did it better ( as The Russian Spaceship launches are very good I hear) typically US Military didn’t want to play any more.

            If we can get Elon and his mates to Mars and leave them there surely it would be a worthwhile venture?

            p.p.s. It’s necessary to build Social ( a posh name for Council Houses) to a massive extent.

            What is holding the politicians back is the fact that rising house prices have been funding falling incomes for years and as Bayard rightly says what goes up must come down.

            Imagine if One Million Council Houses were built each year?

            I can – the ‘ homeowners ‘ house prices would plummet like a stone and bang goes their gains.

            Supply and Demand in capitalist terms should apply but not if it loses your votes.

            Maybe my opinion that no-one should have more than one house until everyone has got one would be judged naive and simplistic?

            There are Homeless and un- protected people who need houses.

            A Classroom full of ten year olds would just say:

            ‘ Build more houses’ and the teacher would make the excuse that it’s a bit more complicated than that children.

            No it isn’t – it’s easy if you have the plans and the will to do it.

            There isn’t the will because it is deemed as a vote loser.

            Not amongst the Homeless and the short tenancy tenants it isn’t – particularly in Cities and also in rural areas and what is called ‘ Coastal Communities – essentially everywhere.

          • Bayard

            “‘ Build more houses’ and the teacher would make the excuse that it’s a bit more complicated than that children.”

            That’s because it is more complicated. Whilst the theory of supply and demand suggests that building more houses will make them cheaper, the evidence is entirely the opposite way; that building more houses makes them more expensive. Quite possibly, building more houses will make the houses cheaper, but the house is not the expensive bit. The expensive bit is the piece of land that the house is sitting on.

  • Frank Hovis

    TV’s been full of European “leaders” pledging support to Zelensky and giving advice to Mr. Tangerine Man and Putin.
    They Just don’t seem to realise the depth of their irrelevance. They can blow smoke up each others’ arses on TV till the cows come home and it will have the square root of f**k all effect on the meeting in Alaska tomorrow.

    • Robert Hughes

      Indeed , and , equally risible is the breathless iterations of ” Trump warns Putin blah blah + sidedish of blah ” . Granted the Curious Orange has been saying such stuff but why should anyone take anything he says seriously ? The guy is multi-compromised and is clearly obliged to throw scraps to all his various ankle-biters and potential political assassins ( not to mention literal ones ) he is , to quote K Kristopherson …..” a walking contradiction , partly truth & partly fiction ” – though the second ” partly ” could more accurately read ” total ” – adjectively .

      Let’s see what emerges from this Alaskan Theatre Production ; will it be ” baked ” ; ” cod ” or something more substantial , eg an actual Proxy War ending deal . I have serious doubts about the latter , but I’m pretty certain V Putin /Russia will not be intimidated by these ” threats ” ; real or otherwise

      Trump is desperate for a * win * , if he has any sense ( ? ) or real agency ( ??? ) in this matter he will seek that * win * in ending this needless/senseless carnage . Likewise the ongoing genocide in Gaza .

      If he did those things he would be the first POTUS or U.S Politician generally to actually deserve being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

      • Brian Red

        All Trump is interested in is the money. He’s an oligarch who didn’t consolidate, because he didn’t have the sense, and he is forced to move to more and more advanced positions based on the ever more stretched seat of his pants. He is bound to come an almighty cropper, probably more spectacularly than say Berezovsky did.

        Totally agreed that western European elites are being thoroughly humiliated.

        If there were anything similar to an independent liberal press it would say what TF is the point of this total scam – this corrupt scam that’s about 10 million times the size of the Millennium Dome, or 10 thousand times the size of nuclear power – called “NATO”.

        • Stevie Boy

          If Trump was serious, to any degree, he would halt all arms supplies destined for Ukraine (and Israel) but he hasn’t and he isn’t. Any American ‘peace’ deal won’t involve stopping the supply of arms. It’s money, it’s the MIC , it’s the raison d’etre of the USA economy. Russia will have no other choice than to continue until it’s objectives are achieved. Peace is within Trump’s power but dark forces pull his strings.

          • mark cutts

            Stevie Boy

            It takes some ‘ Business’ man to bankrupt three Casinos but. he did.

            The Double Zero Roulette Wheels in the US give the House and advantage
            (of 5.26% of all turnover on the wheels.in the long run ).

            Don’t know about Craps or Cards but, that must be profitable too and of course the
            best profit maker – slots.

            And maybe plus Tony Bennet or Frank Sinatra or Elvis on show?

            Trump is a legend in his own Lunch time.

            And in his head.

          • JK redux

            Stevie Boy
            August 15, 2025 at 11:03

            If FDR had been serious, to any degree, he would have halted all arms supplies destined for England (in 1939/40).

            National Socialist Germany had no other choice than to continue until its objectives were achieved.

            Tankies gotta tank I suppose…

          • MR MARK CUTTS

            Brian Red

            That would sound more sincere if he only had a British Passport – he has an EU one too.

            Bin Tice and his bad Lady friend both live in Bahrain I think, due to not wanting to pay taxes in the UK.

            Rees- Mogg and others stash their cash in Ireland for the low taxes.

            Tommy Yaxley banks anywhere he can – just in case he has to flee the country he loves on the odd ocassion.

            I suspect Jeremy Corbyn Banks at The Co op?

            And he is called an Un-Patriot and Betrayer.

            Unfortunately a lot of gullible people believe in these shysters and will only be shed of their illusions if Reform get any
            where near power.

            Even more unfortunately afyer being genuinely betrayed they will conclude that we need a government even further tp
            the Right of Hitler.

            A bit like wanting a more worse Brexit than the one we have now.

            It can be done – I’m sure.

            Unfortunately

          • MR MARK CUTTS

            Stevie Boy

            All through the Gaza assault the US has been overlooked and all the blame has been on Israel.

            Yep – they are a bunch of human beings who you would avoid in general but, as you say the string pullers are
            the USA.

            The British Installed the country and the US took over The Franchise later.

            The US has been let off very lightly by the MSM and politicians and it still continues to this day.

            JK Redux

            Nice to see you back from your holidays.

            Did you go anywhere nice?

            Clever fella Roosevelt and very popular too in the US.

            But he didn’t do the New Deal out of kindness.

            The Soviet Union existed and post First World War the Germans were reparationed into the ground.

            There was a failed Socialist Revolution in Germany in 1919.

            There was a Great depression worldwide.

            Roosevelt was clever enough to say to the US Rich that because of all the above their riches and means of getting rich could dis-appear in a puff of smoke if there was a Revolution in the USA.

            A terrible example to the capitalist world.

            The ‘ Deal’ with Rich was that they had to come to terms with the idea of being a Poorer Capitalist temporarily than no capitalist at all – hence The New Deal (State Capitalism of its day).

            Uninvested profits were taxed at 98% unless they were invested into the US economy.

            He was closely advised by Keynes ( another clever man) so he had good liberal advice there.

            The US kept out of WW2 because at the time they had no interest in which capitalist won in Europe at the time – they were Non Aligned.

            Hitler didn’t use his brains like Roosevelt and went for the Strongest Survives tactic and built the mightiest Military anyone had ever seen despite harsh reparations.

            Begging the question as to who funded the project?

            George W Bush’s Grandad was one I believe but, to build a mighty army you need a mighty amount of funding.

            Once Hitler got on a roll the Roosevelt obviously revised the US position and build ships/tanks etc etc on Lend Lease Basis and sent them to the UK and other parts of Europe.

            ‘ Better late than never ‘ was the British view.

            Pearl Harbour happened and the rest is history as they say.

            Like the First World War was the first half – this was the second half of the Inter Imperialist Rivalry and landlocked Germany needed a sea to sail on and they set about it quickly and nastily.

            So, the US was not pleased at all by a dangerous rival in their Europe and this is the reason why Roosevelt and the US joined in eventually.

            He was in no doubt a clever and prescient President the US has ever had and he and Keynes literally may have saved US and Europe from the Socialist/Communist Hordes.

            I think he did, if you look at the state of play now.

            p.s.The Socialist part of National Socialism was an appeal to the dis-appointed Communists/Socialists of the failed revolution in 1919.

            By definition they were older and therefore more bitter with France’s vicious reparations and many joined because they hated the French ( not The English).

            Mussolini started out as a Communist by the way.

            There are echo’s of all this resounding around Europe and the US right now.

            But hey – Imperialists have to Imperialise.

          • Stevie Boy

            Mark.
            You may find this of interest in regard to string pullers.
            “CIA spymaster James [Jesus] Angleton shaped the US-Israeli relationship in secrecy. Newly unredacted files shed light on his wanton betrayal of his country to assist Israel’s theft of US nuclear material and global spying operations. ”
            https://thegrayzone.com/2025/08/15/cias-angleton-israeli-spy-ring-files
            The rot is deep and stretches back a long way.
            We now have Starmer and Cooper carrying out similar roles in the UK. Mossad agents in all but name.

          • Bayard

            “If FDR had been serious, to any degree, he would have halted all arms supplies destined for England (in 1939/40).”

            Except that Britain was paying for what the US supplied, whereas Ukraine is getting it all for free, plus a lot of extra billions to keep the country going, but don’t let a few inconvenient facts get in the way; copers gotta cope, I suppose.

          • Stevie Boy

            Mark. Just a point of accuracy.
            “Tommy Yaxley banks anywhere he can” True. But the reason is that he has effectively been debanked by the state.
            It’s common practice, here, to rant on about human rights and free speech but not for those like TR. If we don’t support equal rights for all then what makes us any different from Starmer, Trump or Netanyahu ?

        • Robert Hughes

          ” That’s not a speech – it’s a tapdance.” . actual ” lol ” 🙂

          By now El Trumpeto will have reduced that ” knowledge ” time to 5 secs ; if not ” I knew 20 years ago where everybody stands ”
          His boasts are getting more outlandish by the day . By next week don’t be surprised if he’s claiming ” I created the Universe ”

          Did you see the ( de ) press conference in Berlin * Featuring ! * The Screaming Skull – Merz & Wee ” Charlie ” Z ? The latter’s facial tics are getting more , let’s say ……pharmacologically interesting , something between a snarl and a grimace . His ” tea’s oot ” and he knows it and is just treading water before he chooses his exit strategy – assuming he’s not the subject of ” extreme prejudice ” either from his erstwhile backers or the deranged Banderite’s in his immediate orbit .

          Merz just looks like a tattered black bin bag stuck on a barbed wire fence , flapping pointlessly in the wind .

          Starmer might well ask for Zelly’s hand in marriage , so desperate is he to identify himself with anything other than his ongoing calamitous premiership and record-breaking unpopularity . The Z-Man , in turn so desperate , might well say ” Yes “

  • Brian Red

    The SIS business and media desk is in full Tongue in Cheek mode this morning:

    Trump the ‘dealmaker’ faces his biggest test with Putin summit”
    “After promising to solve the Ukraine war throughout his campaign, the US president faces a moment of truth in Alaska

    Financial Times:
    https://archive.is/cXY8i
    Never let it be said that sarcasm plays any role in the British elite’s mentality.

    Trump said: “We’re going to find out where everybody stands. And I’ll know within the first two minutes, three minutes, four minutes or five minutes.”

    That’s not a speech – it’s a tapdance.

    SIS seem to be rating the probability of “no deal” about as high as I do…
    Putin’s going to hand Benito Trump his arse on a plate.

    (Trump) has frequently claimed the war would never have happened if he had been president in 2022. And he alone has the chops to end it — or so he says.

    Yes, okay, SIS-FT, we get the point. Mind you don’t upset any of the burgermunchers. Think of them as fuzzywuzzies. They can get a spike of coke to the ‘ead and go all funny. Remember how they embarrassed poor Kim Darroch.

    • Brian Red

      That “king” guy is going to address Austria-Hungary the British nation tomorrow.
      Apparently he’s going to talk most solemnly about the defeat of Japan in the 1940s.

      John Cleese got there first:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8inc0_5G0g

      Seems the second item in tomorrow’s “news” may not give quite the same impression as “his majesty” does of British and “allied” importance in the world….

      • Brian Red

        They’re even going to have two minutes silence at midday tomorrow.
        Sounds as though they’re absolutely cacking themselves. That’s why they’re saying how steadfast they are, and how we’ve all got to link arms with them.

        • Stevie Boy

          All the war dead will be revolving like spit roasts at the thought of all these genocide supporting, fascist politicians babbling on about democracy and human rights. Their sacrifices were in vain, they didn’t give their lives so that Britain could end up like the corrupt, oppressive shitshow it is. The nation should hang it’s head in shame.

          • M.J.

            Given that there’s no Paradise this side of eternity, and given your view of the UK, it might be an idea to list the countries you would rather go to live, in, if you had the means. So what should be the first one on the list? Any takers? Here’s a hint: it’s probably none of the ones from which people are doing their best to come to this country, by hook or by crook.

          • zoot

            Most of them are fleeing from countries wrecked and fleeced by western imperialism, ruled by its oppressive puppets.

            But on the substantive issue, are you disputing in 2025 that Britain’s ruling class are corrupt, genocidal arch-hypocrites?

          • M.J.

            Zoot: Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote ( The Gulag Archipelago, Vol 2, Part IV, chapter 1 “The Ascent”, page 615): “It was granted me to carry away from my prison years on my bent back, which nearly broke beneath its load, this essential experience: how a human being becomes evil and how good. In the intoxication of youthful successes I had felt myself to be infallible, and I was therefore cruel. In the surfeit of power I was a murderer, and an oppressor. In my most evil moments I was convinced that I was doing good, and I was well supplied with systematic arguments. And it was only when I lay there on rotting prison straw that I sensed within myself the first stirrings of good. Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart — and through all human hearts.”
            Therefore it is better to not single out any “class” for condemnation, be it economic, political or ethnic.

          • zoot

            Ah yes, the all-time favourite ‘dissident’ of the genocidaires…

            Seriously though, can you not appreciate how extreme it is to still be caping for these people after almost two years of pitilless genocide, having had all the details about their involvement laid out for you by Craig?

          • M.J.

            It seems to me that you haven’t taken what Solzhenitsyn said seriously, hence your expression ‘these people’. I’m saying that we should be wary of condemning categories of people, because human nature is the same everywhere. Therefore we should be wary of thinking that class war, Constitutional change or even a change of government is the answer to our problems. Most of the time we might exert a limited influence occasionally, even as groups, leading to small victories, and then we may have done our bit.

          • zoot

            I don’t take anything Solzhenitsyn said seriously. The man was a generic chauvinist reactionary; a monarchist antisemite who made a career through CIA-funded front organisations pushing anti-Communist propaganda.

            As for the arch-reactionary prescription you advise, it’s clearly disingenuous given your strident criticisms of Trump, Boris and other approved bete noire. All it is is an admission that so far as you’re concerned there is literally nothing this particular Labour Right bunch could do that would warrant them being thrown out, let alone jailed, even including enabling a genocide.

          • M.J.

            Alexander Isayevich Solzhenitsyn was one of the great men of the 20th century. I read two of his books as a schoolboy: One day in the life of Ivan Denisovich which was later made into a very good film of the same title in 1974 starring Tom Courtenay and shown on British television. The other was the first volume of his monumental work The Gulag Archipelago which was smuggled out of the Soviet Union and went to the top of best seller lists in the West. I haven’t read his novels Cancer Ward and The First Circle but maybe one day. I think that school libraries should certainly stock One day and GA. Solzhenitsyn’s political views were Russian nationalist, and he would have shared Putin’s concern about the Eastern expansion of NATO. He was opposed to Ukrainian independence, but whether he would have approved of a dictatorship under Putin invading a democratic Ukraine seems to me debatable to say the least. Elie Wiesel the holocaust survivor denied that he was an anti-semite.
            As far as I’m concerned, Solzhenitsyn deserved his Nobel prize for literature, and I hope that interest in him will not die out in the West, my personal admiration for Zelensky as Ukraine’s latter day Churchill notwithstanding.

          • Frank Hovis

            Your admiration for Zelensky is admirable and I think in comparing him to Churchill you are selling him short.
            I bet Churchill couldn’t do this:
            Zelensky plays Hava Nagila on piano (2016) – YouTube [Invidious], 0m 39s

          • Yawn BerkOff

            Zoot – which were the CIA-funded front organisations which were financing Solzhenitsyn when he was researching and writing the three volumes of the GuLAG. I would love to believe you, but some names and details would be most helpful.

          • mark cutts

            Stevie Boy

            I’ve replied here re: string pullers.

            Your right but, the question for all these characters is, whether they do all these things for strongly held principles or filthy lucre?

            The greatest irony in Israel is that the Scholars of the Torah don’t want to temporarily put their books down and fight for the Israel cause – they would rather let the non scholars do that.

            By the way it was The French who assisted Israel in the building of Nuke Re-actors and then the Nuke bomb in Israel.

            Whether the US knew ( or turned a blind eye) I don’t know.

            Might be fun tomorrow watch Zelensky and 30 assistants discussing with Trump in The Whitehouse.

            That might be a 10 minute meeting when Trump gets fed up of everyone talking.

            Sorry – grovelling.

            It might all be on the TV.

          • Bayard

            “He was opposed to Ukrainian independence, but whether he would have approved of a dictatorship under Putin invading a democratic Ukraine seems to me debatable to say the least. ”

            What, apart from the usual propaganda, makes you think that Russia is any more a dictatorship than any other major state? Russia, in having a directly elected head of state, is more democratic than the UK, which has two heads of state, one of which is hereditary and the other elected by a tiny minority of the electorate.

  • Magnus

    Thanks again to Alistair Carmichael MP for setting the legal precedent that it’s perfectly ok for politicians to lie to the electorate providing it’s a “political lie” and not a “personal” one. Ladies and gentlemen: the Mother of Parliaments. Get us away from these people.

  • Brian Red

    What will be really hilarious is if Trump announces in Alaska that the USA is leaving NATO.

    Three Nobel peace prizes and a joint statement by Mark Rutte, Ursula von der Leyen, and the British “king” that Trump is the greatest man who ever lived, with enormous hands and a gigantic “IQ”, notwithstanding.

    • Mart

      If the US leaves NATO I’ll eat my hat – it’s a massive revenue stream for the US “defence” industry, facilitating, as it does, the relentless transfer of European (and US taxpayers’) wealth to their coffers. That’s not to say Trump won’t announce his intention to leave, but it’ll be all bluff. Even if he means it he’ll be leant on with such pressure he won’t go through with it.

      • Brian Red

        No NATO member imports US weapons to a quarter of the value that Saudi does, or more US weapons than Japan, Qatar, Australia, South Korea, or Kuwait.

        But Olof Palme fell out with Bofors and then …

      • Bayard

        There was no NATO in WWII, but the UK still spent so much money with the US MIC that they were in hock for the next 60 years or so.

  • Harry Law

    Both the ICC and ICJ are under attack, arrest warrants have been completed against Ben Cvir and Smotrich on the charge of Apartheid but cannot be processed any further, first because the Prosecutor Khan has taken leave after allegations of sexual misconduct. Now it is believed the two deputy prosecutors [it is alleged] are fearful of sanctions against them. The US state dept are acting worse than the Mafia, it seems to be working.
    In a further threat to the court last month, US State Department legal adviser Reed Rubinstein warned that “all options remain on the table” unless all arrest warrants and the investigation into alleged Israeli war crimes are dropped.
    Whether the ICC will issue warrants for Ben Gvir and Smotrich in these circumstances remains to be seen. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/icc-arrest-warrant-applications-ready-israel-itamar-ben-gvir-bezalel-smotrich-apartheid-charges
    Over at the ICJ……. Julia Sebutinde, the Ugandan vice-president of the International Court of Justice (ICJ), has said God “is counting on me to stand on the side of Israel” and the signs of the “end times” are “being shown in the Middle East”.
    She said God called her a “coward” and told her to “wake up” when she was lying in bed on the morning of the election worrying about criticism over her stance on Israel.
    The judge also shared her thoughts on Gaza, saying the situation signalled the “end times” predicted in the Bible.
    “I have a very strong conviction that we are in the end times,” she declared. “The signs are being shown in the Middle East. I want to be on the right side of history.” https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/icj-vice-president-lord-counting-me-stand-side-israel
    These developments together with the new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague. This provision, dubbed the “Hague invasion clause,” has caused a strong reaction from U.S. allies around the world, particularly in the Netherlands.
    It would appear to be the US has appointed itself Judge, Jury and executioner. Not forgetting its veto at the UN, protecting Israel.

    • Robert Hughes

      FFS ! ” “I have a very strong conviction that we are in the end times,” she declared. “The signs are being shown in the Middle East. I want to be on the right side of history.” . What can anyone with functioning rationality do against that kind of literal-minded absurdity ; and why/how does someone holding those types of view get to such a position ? I suspect the dead-hand of DEI is behind this aberration .

      I couldn’t care less what peoples’s religious beliefs are , just so long as such people are nowhere positions with the kind of responsibility represented by ICJ .

      And ” we ” berate and scorn groups like Al Qaeda / ISIS for their ” religious ” fanaticism . People like Ms Subutinde and , of course , those two lunatics Cvir & Smotrich are of exactly them same mindset

    • Brian Red

      A case of “God told me to support genocide”?
      Why doesn’t that cowardly idiot stand down from her position as a judge and let God choose her successor.
      Although of course she is just talking crap to justify the same kind of cowardice that is evident in government (including judicial) circles in Germany, France, Britain, and to some extent Russia. (Washington DC became occupied territory long ago.)

    • M.J.

      In turning people like Julia Sebutinde away from Christian Zionism, one key may be the testimonies of people who have turned away from Christian Zionism, but remained devout Christians. I don’t know of specific examples, though I have read testimonies by ex-Zionists from Jewish backgrounds like Avigail Abarbanel and sen people on film like Simone Zimmerman. There’s a good research problem: find some testimonies of ex-Zionist Christians, especially Pentecostals, and maybe they can reach people like this. I suspect that they are to be found in America. Seek, or you will not find!

      • M.J.

        OK, I found one: Ian Stackhouse’ Beyond Christian Zionism, ISBN 9798385203598. But it seems expensive for its size (over £12 for only 114 pages). I might wait for something cheaper, or a used copy.

      • Bayard

        “In turning people like Julia Sebutinde away from Christian Zionism, one key may be the testimonies of people who have turned away from Christian Zionism, but remained devout Christians.”

        You jest! Those who turn away from Christian Zionism will be regarded as heretics and apostates by the remaining true believers, fit only for the lowest circles of Hell. The devoutness of their Christianity will be irrelevant, as it will be the wrong sort of Christianity.

    • Jack

      Over at the ICJ……. Julia Sebutinde, the Ugandan vice-president of the International Court of Justice (ICJ), has said God “is counting on me to stand on the side of Israel” and the signs of the “end times” are “being shown in the Middle East”.

      What the hell?! I had to google this because this quote because sounded too absurd to be true – and lo and behold it was true, she really said that. How on earth could this not be bigger news? The ICJ turned out to be a kangaroo court full of pro-western corrupted people that take bribes and or let them be threatened with sanctions and religious nutjobs like Julia. how could a fanatical woman like this have such much power?! Is she a plant by israel perhaps?
      A judicial court should of course judge a situation based on the judificary and on facts, here we have a woman that judge the situation based on religious grounds and even wish for a big conflagration to happen in the middle east?! There needs to be a campaign against ICJ to get rid of this crazy woman, how could not ICJ understand this themselves, but obviously ICJ is in itself corrupt, because people within the IJC have voted her to this vice-president position.

      • Mike T

        Indeed, I found the remarks quite shocking from one in such a senior position within the law. Perhaps this is what Robert Jenrick was referring to when he called for “activist judges” to be dismissed.

        “Discussing “activist” judges, Mr Jenrick said: “If judges want to enter the political sphere themselves, then they should stop being judges and go into politics. “We have to have a situation where judges who act politically and bring their own personal politics into their job as a judge are held to account and frankly, can be removed.”

        Or then again, perhaps not.

        • Cynicus

          “… I found the remarks quite shocking from one in such a senior position within the law.”
          ========
          Me too. Outside the lunatic fringe of major religions what kind of person says stuff like this?

          To plagiarise JK Rowling on Nicola Sturgeon: a fuckwit.

  • Harry Law

    I have no religion, but when I see a kook like this lady advising the bloviating orange child killer I wonder just where the US is going.
    In his book, “It Can’t Happen Here” (1935), Sinclair Lewis wrote, “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying the cross.” How apt, Paula White was Trumps spiritual advisor, now in this new White House post.
    President Donald Trump announced appointments to the White House Faith Office.
    Pastor Paula White-Cain will return to the White House as a Special Government Employee and Senior Advisor of the newly created White House Faith Office.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DlRueGU1AU

    Randy Fine Republican Congress critter calls on critics of Israel to be jailed for 5 years, meanwhile is Congressional friend Brian Mast arrives in Congress wearing his IDF uniform.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4254384-brian-mast-israeli-military-uniform-capitol-hill/

  • Jack

    As usual, when israel kills, UK are close by, physically:

    MPs urge UK to disclose if it holds spy plane footage of Al Jazeera journalists’ killings
    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-mps-urge-government-disclose-if-it-holds-spy-plane-footage-journalists-killings

    What kind of sick people are leading the west? What cause these people to engage in a genocide against a complatetly defenseless population? What’s in it for them? Is it some weird infatuation, philo-semitism?

    The non-western world needs to call out western hypocrisy, why should anyone care what the west say about Russia when western world even engage on the ground/air helping israel commit the Genocide! Russia, China, and other nations are way too slow to capitalize on this,what are they waiting for!?

    • Stevie Boy

      The UK also needs to disclose if it holds spy plane footage of british aid workers killings – which it certainly does. In fact the UK needs to explain exactly WTF it’s spy planes are doing over Palestine, full stop.

      • Goose

        They’re quite obviously sharing signals intelligence, and yes, those authorising risk being accessories to murder – even if data is passed through a third party.

        They better pray Corbyn’s new party doesn’t come to power.

      • MR MARK CUTTS

        zoot

        That’s cynical.

        Might be four?

        I like Corbyn but he is a British Socialist who believes in Parliamentary Democracy.

        But, it will be a bit refreshing to have an alternative to the current ‘debate’ that masquerades as Democratic
        Debate.

        The Labour Party always has been a Broad Church.

        The problem – it has always had very narrow door and that is nothing new.

        Plus the left in general are constantly shooting themselves in the foot as their politics in general are very narrow.

        From Workerist to left of centre ( Soft Left) and in between.

    • Bayard

      “What kind of sick people are leading the west? What cause these people to engage in a genocide against a complatetly defenseless population? What’s in it for them? Is it some weird infatuation, philo-semitism?”

      Yup, that, or the fear that they will be cast out from the company of the rich and powerful if they don’t. The threat, spoken or unspoken “do this or you will no longer be a member of our gang” has led to much evil-doing over the millennia.

  • Brian Red

    This could be the next thing: white power types saying the woke authorities are taking down “our” St George’s and Union flags:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyj4y8vq7vo

    Imagine if this is bigged up in GB News and the Sun and by Nigel Farage. “It’s no crime to be from this country”, etc., with an initially side fraction saying, e.g. near migrant hostels, that “it’s no crime to be white”, which is what they mean of course, because many millions of non-white people are from this country.

  • glenn_nl

    The author Sally Rooney writes in the Irish Times on the proscribing of PA. She notes that publishing this in a UK paper would not be allowed. She also questions why the Irish authorities – usually keen enough to protect the rights of citizens – are strangely silent about the rights of people (including their own citizens), arrested for opposing genocide in a neighbouring country (the UK), and even in Belfast.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/2025/08/16/sally-rooney-i-support-palestine-action-if-this-makes-me-a-supporter-of-terror-under-uk-law-so-be-it/

    • JK redux

      glenn_nl
      August 16, 2025 at 13:23

      A good piece by Rooney.

      Of course the Irish Government are trying to avoid a confrontation with Trump.

      As is every government in Europe.

      May his remaining days be unpleasant and few in number.

  • JK redux

    MR MARK CUTTS
    August 16, 2025 at 13:13

    Thanks for the kind remarks Mark. (Our visit to Spain in May was pleasant.)

    My point of course is that, if it was right (and it was) for the USA to support England and later the USSR with military supplies before the USA was attacked, then why shouldn’t the USA and Europe continue to supply Ukraine which faces a similar existential threat?

    The Putin regime isn’t as barbarous as the Hitler one.

    But give him time…

    • mark cutts

      JK Redux

      Well, being as Hesgeth thinks that Hamas is similar to The Third Reich and bombing Gaza is like The western Powers bombing Dresden then anything goes.

      The problem for the West is that it is in a war but not officially against Russia.

      Yes supplying weapons is what really happens whether we like it or not.

      Like North Korean troops and supplying Iran with defence missiles and so on.

      But, when you start a war then you really need to win it and NATO is not winning.

      The Russians have made it extremely clear to Germany and others that if they supply and assist in launching or sending medium range missiles from Ukraine Russia will consider it as a NATO attack.

      So, if in response to this Russia sent a couple of Oreshniks to Berlin the liberal media would be offended and cry foul.

      The West want to play the game of backing a war but not actually being in a war and the Europeans are much more shifty than Trump in all this.

      Ideally they are only considering doing this if they receive Article 5 guarantees but, for all sides there are consequences ( all for one and one for all) security guarantees from the US.

      Trump says no at the moment and I would be amazed if the US would sacrifice its Military Personnel on behalf of any European country.

      So, yes all is fair in love and war and they forget that that every action has a reaction.

      There are many who side with the Gazans who don’t side with The Russians but both countries in action are Proxies for the US.

      Tomorrow will be the Europeans latest ( but not the last) attempt to bend Trump’s ear.

      I suspect that Zelensky will not be very optimistic.

      We shall see.

      • Pears Morgaine

        ” The Russians have made it extremely clear to Germany and others that if they supply and assist in launching or sending medium range missiles from Ukraine Russia will consider it as a NATO attack. ”

        We were told that if the US/UK gave Ukraine permission to fire Scalp/Storm Shadow and ATACAMS missiles into Russia it would invoke Russia’s nuclear doctrine and trigger a nuclear war. That was back in November.

        Ah yes the much over-hyped Oreshnik which is going to win the war for Russia in an afternoon. Never mind about it’s inaccuracy (only good enough for nuclear warheads), questionable reliability and not being as ‘unstoppable’ as some would like to believe. Relying on wonder weapons to bring victory doesn’t work anyway.

        • Cynicus

          “Relying on wonder weapons to bring victory doesn’t work anyway”
          =======
          As in Hiroshima/ Nagasaki in VJ, currently being celebrated?

          • MR MARK CUTTS

            Cynicus

            Quite.

            I’m hearing a lot about not giving in to bullies and appeasement.

            This from a The Europeans who have been in ‘ appeasement’ mode
            to the US since the end of the Second World War.

            They are giving it another go with Trump this afternoon.

            Pears Morgaine

            Unlike the Military ‘expert ‘ on Sky News who said that US supplies of 2k bombs to Israel were to just attack Hamas only , I am no expert on arms at all.

            From what bit I do know (they have been on telly – always good proof) they may not be deadly accurate but, they look a bit powerful to me -something like 8 separate bunker busting warheads.

            Unless they are in the production realm of The Moskovitch car (the Russian version of The Austin Allegro) then they seem to be making a lot of them.

            Putin/Lavrov only rattled the Nuclear Sabre because NATO delivered nukes to Lakenheath and somewhere else in the UK possibly breaking an Arms Non- Proliferation Treaty.

            The truth is I think that all roads lead to the US and not Rome or London and this afternoon the Boss is speaking.

            Our commander In Chief of NATO maybe will tolerate the visitors – maybe nod kindly and tell them that they too have about as many cards as Ukraine.

            This negotiation of Security Guarantees under Article 5 may be discussed – The Three Musketeers + 1 Doctrine but, you have to be a little naive to think that the US Military and the US public would be sacrificed to protect Europe.

            It was extremely unlikely Post War and even more unlikely now.

            I’m not saying Trump will rule out ‘ assistance ‘ to the EU and UK and Ukraine but if they do want assistance the weapons they ( Europe not the US ) will fight with have to be bought from the US.

            The Art of the deal.

            As usual let’s see what happens around 5pm in the UK.

            Could be great television or a Bore – Fest all round.

            A thick cloud of pomposity in the room no doubt about that.

        • Bayard

          “We were told that if the US/UK gave Ukraine permission to fire Scalp/Storm Shadow and ATACAMS missiles into Russia it would invoke Russia’s nuclear doctrine and trigger a nuclear war. That was back in November.”

          Shows that those who support the official narrative in the West sometimes get it wrong.

          “Ah yes the much over-hyped Oreshnik which is going to win the war for Russia in an afternoon. Never mind about it’s inaccuracy (only good enough for nuclear warheads), questionable reliability and not being as ‘unstoppable’ as some would like to believe.”

          Shows that those who don’t support the official narrative in the West sometimes get it wrong, too.

          Without access to a reliable source of truth, what can we do? Well, I suppose we can always think about things and use reason and probability. Nah, too hard, gimme something I can regurgitate undigested!

    • Bayard

      “My point of course is that, if it was right (and it was) for the USA to support England and later the USSR with military supplies before the USA was attacked, then why shouldn’t the USA and Europe continue to supply Ukraine which faces a similar existential threat?”

      Except that it didn’t and the UK would be in a lot better position if it had.

  • pete

    It is really difficult to comprehend how the mind of someone like YC works without giving consideration to the role of the psychopathic personality, and how people can be blind to ordinary decent human feelings. I was just looking at the testimony of James Elder here at:
    https://piaille.fr/@SolenedeM/115038407391423272
    He gives a short report, 51 seconds long, if you are not moved by this then you work for the UK government.

  • Willie

    I think we can be all clear that police behaviour is nothing less than a restriction on freedom of speech, freedom of expression.

    Arresting many hundred in London average age 54, with around 60% over 70 years of age tells you that. Simply wearing a T-shirt or a placard is not, a and never has been, terrorism. What it is is fascist policing by a racist state. Interesting too that a similar round up of elderly was undertaken by police in Belfast and another British (?) city with an utterly ignored police force.

    People accept this slide into fascism at their utter peril. Germany and many other countries have gone that way and today, ipso facto, the UK is very much a fascist state. Would you walk into a gas chamber, or would you be corralled nto a devastated city with little to no food, water, medicine or sanitation. Many of us immediately suspect would. What happens to others could never happen here – eh ?

    • Squeeth

      The trouble with warning about fascism is that it is the essence of liberalism, coercion masquerading as freedom. Verily, liberalism is fascism in a cardigan.

  • glenn_nl

    Yvette Cooper asserts that PA is indeed a terrorist organisation, and states it’s “nonsense” that protests are being limited.

    https://observer.co.uk/news/opinion-and-ideas/article/palestine-actions-violent-criminality-is-not-lawful-protest

    She also claimed that, had it not been for genuine information about their terrorist intent, this proscribing “… certainly wouldn’t have become the unanimous recommendation to ministers from the cross-government security expert review group.

    Doubtless due to lack of space, she neglected to provide any evidence for her assertions. Guess we’ll just have to take her word for it!

      • Squeeth

        Fair’s fair, I wouldn’t believe it when the Septics announced that the SMO was coming. Clearly you shouldn’t trust the judgement of a history man or a man with a centre parting.

      • Kirth Gersen

        You ‘thought [Medhurst] made it up as he went along’, did you?

        I was reminded of a a popular rejoinder to such remarks in Liverpool in the 50s:

        ‘You know what thought did? – saw a muck-cart and thought it was a funeral’.

        • JK redux

          Kirth Gersen
          August 17, 2025 at 13:43

          So where did Medhurst get his super accurate intel that confirmed that Putin had no intention of invading Ukraine?

          TBF a special military operation doesn’t count as an invasion? Right?

          • Bayard

            “.So where did Medhurst get his super accurate intel that confirmed that Putin had no intention of invading Ukraine?”

            This takes me back to the playground at my primary school “You were wrong last time, so you are wrong this time, so nurrr!”
            .

          • JK redux

            Bayard
            August 18, 2025 at 09:11

            More reasonable to say: “You got it wrong last time. Can you explain why? If not why should we believe you this time?”.

          • Bayard

            “You got it wrong last time. ”

            Except it wasn’t last time. Are you claiming that the last time Richard Medhurst made a pronouncement on anything to do with Russia (or the USSR) was over three years ago? Perhaps you mean the last time he was wrong, in which case he’s doing pretty well for a journalist. Otherwise, it’s, “you were wrong once so I’m going to use that as an excuse to diss anything you say in future that I disagree with”: playground stuff, as I said.

        • Pyewacket

          Kirth, the version I remember was: Followed a muck cart because he thought it was a Wedding, then p!ssed himself and thought he was Sweating.

        • Squeeth

          In my neck of the woods it was, “You know what thought did, he saw a rag and bone cart and thought it was a wedding”.

    • Stevie Boy

      Here’s another one.
      Richard Sakwa is a British academic expert who has been a prolific author of books and articles on the Soviet Union and Russia. He is known as one of the best and most fair-minded experts on Russia in the English-speaking world.
      … on 13 June 2025 I was detained at Heathrow airport on my return from conferences in Tbilisi and Belgrade. Under the terms of the 2019 Counter-Terrorism Act, you can be kept for six hours, and silence is taken as an indication of having something to hide, leading to even worse consequences.
      …Should you maintain a relationship with individuals connected to the Russian state, these relationships may be connected with activity of national security concern”
      https://consortiumnews.com/2025/08/15/interview-richard-sakwa-on-russia-since-perestroika

      • JK redux

        Stevie Boy
        August 17, 2025 at 16:20

        Sakwa may be “prolific” but is hardly ” known as one of the best and most fair-minded experts on Russia in the English-speaking world”.

        Read his Wiki page.

          • Bayard

            “Cui bono?”

            You and the other copers only, I think. No one else will have noticed, except the sort of pedants who chime up whenever people refer to the Netherlands as “Holland”.

          • JK redux

            Bayard
            August 18, 2025 at 09:18

            Pedantry to object to equating the (happily defunct) USSR with Russia?

            The former had twice the population of the latter.

            But tankies don’t accept that the USSR is gone for good.

            Vova will bring back the good times…

          • Bayard

            “Pedantry to object to equating the (happily defunct) USSR with Russia?”

            Yes, given the almost complete interchangeability of the terms “Russia” and “USSR”, when referring to the large country to the east of Europe at the time in question, i.e. before and during the second world war. At the same time it was still common to refer to the United Kingdom as “England”.

            “The former had twice the population of the latter.”

            I doubt it, but that is irrelevant anyway.

  • Stevie Boy

    Here’s a story you won’t hear about on the BBC or elsewhere on the MSM.
    ‘Las Vegas police, working with the FBI, Homeland Security, and Nevada’s Internet Crimes against Children Task Force, announced on Wednesday the arrest of 8 men, including Tom Artiom Alexandrovich. Alexandrovich, 38, serves as Acting Head of Data & AI at Israel’s so-called National Cyber Directorate. He is the founder of Israel’s multi-million-dollar “Cyber Dome” initiative.”
    He was in Las Vegas for a professional conference, not as a registered diplomat. He has no diplomatic immunity. Yet US authorities allowed him to board a plane and return to Israeli-occupied territories within days, without trial, bail conditions, or public explanation.’ [Ref. VT news]
    https://www.lvmpd.com/Home/Components/News/News/2182/263
    Need to watch to see if this lowlife ever enters the UK under the pretense of AI expertise.

    • Lysias

      Acting US Attorney for Nevada is Israel-born Sigal Chattah. Although she denies that she was responsible for releasing Alexandrovich, it’s hard to believe she’s telling the truth. She has a history of posting extremely anti-Palestinian comments on line.

      • Stevie Boy

        More on this story.
        It’s now confirmed ” that the Trump administration personally intervened, at Israel’s request, to override U.S. law enforcement, including their own federal agents involved in the sting, to make sure that Alexandrovich got back to Israel quickly and safely.
        … also confirmed … that Alexandrovich DID NOT have a diplomatic visa or any kind of diplomatic immunity.”
        Recall: “Alexandrovich was formally arrested, charged, and still has pending felony charges on the books. This is not speculation. This is not rumor. This is fact.”
        https://www.thenorthstar.com/p/breaking-trump-administration-helped
        Curious, Israeli Pedophiles, Ukrainian Rent Boys and MSM silence.

  • Brian Red

    Yesterday there were protests outside two prisons holding our brothers and sisters the Filton 24.

    If anyone knows of a text about these demonstrations that has been published on the shitty computer network called “the internet”, please can they post a link. I’m not interested in videos, audio, or toilet-wall scribble posted to Zionist sites like X, Facebook, or Instagram.

    Just a single text publicising the protests and explaining how long they’ve been held on remand, what the action was, and things like that, would be appreciated, and preferably not filtered through a “journalist” or “expert”. Ten have already been held captive for a year.

    It’s quite possible that the British rulers, acting for their masters, don’t want a trial until all Palestinians in Gaza have been removed or killed – and somewhere at the Home Office, Prime Minister’s Office, Cabinet Office, or FCO there may even be documents that show that.

    Prisons incidentally are places whose significance unlike with the Imperial War Museum is not primarily symbolic. They are actual locations where our brothers and sisters are being held captive for acting against genocide. They have approach roads etc. They have governors. This is real life. This is not the internet.

  • Brian Red

    The “we’re being stopped from flying the English national and UK regime flags” thing is growing.

    From what used to be called the Torygraph but is probably now more aptly called the Reformgraph:

    https://archive.is/bCylj

    Here are the headline and strapline from the Telegraph (emphasis added):

    Flags raised by patriotism campaigners removed by London council”
    “Second local authority puts foot down as growing movement wants to celebrate Britain by flying Union or St George’s flags from lampposts

    Perhaps they’re miffed there hasn’t been anything this summer so far that could be construed as a race riot.

    There should be no doubt that tying a St George’s flag or a Union flag to a lamp post and then complaining when it’s taken down is white power stuff, as anyone from the Six Counties will be able to confirm.

    • Brian Red

      I am old enough to remember the mid to late 1970s when supporters of the National Front used Union Jack car bumper stickers to show their allegiance.

  • John Monro

    Yvette Cooper is lying. Does a fox eat chickens? Does the tide rise twice a day? Are there midges in Scotland?

    Still what you have done is demonstrate the lie. It’s a bit like the regular blonde hairs on the hubby’s suit when you’re a brunette. Suspicion is one thing, proof another – an important difference as you’ve attempted to demonstrate so expertly. The major difference is the wifey might ultimately get a confession, doubtful you’ll ever get one from the politician.

  • Harry Law

    One of the 532 people arrested on the Palestine protest was wearing a “Plasticine Action” and inside the letter “o” was an image of the stop-motion character Morph giving two thumbs up. This was all for medical aid for Palestinians, He had been arrested under section 13 of the Terrorism Act 2000, which makes it an offence to wear anything supporting a proscribed organisation. A senior officer asked the arresting officer if he could arrest Pickering under section 12, which could have brought a more serious charge of supporting a proscribed group.
    “[The arresting officer] said: ‘No, I can’t.’ And they said: ‘Why not?’ He said: ‘Because he hasn’t got Palestine Action written on him. He’s got Plasticine Action written on him.’” He was then freed, He said he expected there to be a number of people wearing the shirts on 6 September at the next organised protest against the ban on Palestine Action, and that he had been advised by the police that it could still be an arrestable offence. I wonder what would happen if two protestors wore T shirts one with only ‘Palestine’ on it and another with ‘Action’ on it, and occasionally came together. Maybe conspiracy to commit a terrorist offence. You could not make this up.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/protester-arrested-wearing-plasticine-action-t-shirt-palestine-gaza-protest

    • MR MARK CUTTS

      Harry Law.

      Very witty and clever.

      May a thousand Plasticine Action tee – shirts bloom.

      If that fails say you are dyslexic.

      On second thoughts, get as many dyslexic people who support Palestine to wear them as well.

      The Police won’t know which person to arrest and many Court cases would follow discerning the genuine
      dyslexic people from the fakers.

      That should keep Yvette Cooper busy.

  • Frank Hovis

    Well, the European clown show has touched down in Washington and the legacy media over here are busting a gut to big them up in advance of their meeting with Mr. Tangerine Man.
    As an example, I give you Julian Borger in the MI6 house journal (a.k.a. The Grauniad) headlined:
    “Zelenskyy faces daunting trip to the White House – but this time he won’t be alone”. The article contains this little gem of a passage:

    “Zelenskyy will not, however, be alone as he was on his first trip to the White House in February when he was ambushed and humiliated by Donald Trump and the vice-president, JD Vance, who sought to bully him into capitulation to Moscow’s demands.
    This time the Ukrainian leader comes to Washington flanked by a dream team of European leaders, including Britain’s Keir Starmer, Germany’s Friedrich Merz and France’s Emmanuel Macron, who combine economic and military clout with proven rapport with Trump.”

    Truly in the best traditions of Lunchtime O’Booze. Comedy gold.

    If that’s a dream team, I wouldn’t like to see the reserves – looks more like Accrington Stanley or Berwick Rangers* level to me. Let’s look at the players: Keir Starmer, the ultimate empty suit; Friedrich Merz-makes Starmer appear charismatic; Little Macroleon-the acme of a lame-duck President and, last but not least, Frau Fond O’ Lyin-the dumb blonde’s dumb blonde.
    When they do meet up with Trump it’s truly going to be a unique gathering. It’ll be the first and possibly only time that Trump will be the adult in the room in that he recognises and accepts the reality of the situation on the ground in Ukraine and that Zelensky’s negotiating position is totally unrealistic and therefore a non-starter.
    *No offence intended to any Accrington Stanley or Berwick Rangers fans who may read this.

    • JK redux

      Frank Hovis
      August 18, 2025 at 18:21

      Frankly Frank…

      That’s a load of old shite.

      Your regard for Trump compared to a group of European leaders (who, though not charismatic, don’t need to wear adult nappies and all have 3 figure IQs) is… remarkable.

      You like your politicians stupid, narcissistic and odorous?

      • Frank Hovis

        Kinsella,
        August 18 2025 at18:54
        “Frankly Frank…

        That’s a load of old shite.”
        You are, of course, entitled to your own stupid opinion but I beg to differ.

        “Your regard for Trump compared to a group of European leaders (who, though not charismatic, don’t need to wear adult nappies and all have 3 figure IQs) is… remarkable.”

        Where in my post do I express any regard whatsoever for Trump? I merely commented (with tougue firmly in cheek, as a blind man on a galloping horse could have deduced) on the extremely unusual situation that he may find (have found) himself in at the scheduled meeting. Unlke you, I don’t make a habit of fawning over certain politicians. I wouldn’t piss in Trump’s ear if his brain was on fire. You do have an unfortunate habit on this blog of putting your shovel where theres no shit, don’t you?

        “You like your politicians stupid, narcissistic and odorous?”

        No, I hate (with 1 or 2 notable exceptions) all politicians, They’re all cunts. As the old truism goes, people who want to go into politics are the last people who should be allowed to be politicians.
        I hope that’s cleared up a few of your little misunderstandings for you.

    • Bayard

      “This time the Ukrainian leader comes to Washington flanked by a dream team of European leaders, ”

      Yes, the sort of dream from which you wake up sweating, thinking “Thank God it was just a dream”.

      • M.J.

        Zelensky is in a most difficult position. May Heaven grant him wisdom and courage. I hope that the EU countries whose leaders have come to give him moral support will back it up with defense equipment to prevent Ukraine being overwhelmed, if it should prove necessary.
        Слава Україні!

        • JK redux

          M.J.
          August 18, 2025 at 19:59

          The meeting didn’t go too badly for Ukraine.

          Of course Putin will phone Trump to remind him of the kompromat that he has on him…..

          Слава Україні!

          • Tom74

            I suspect the real, crucial meetings happened long ago, and behind closed doors. The Trump meetings with Putin and then Zelenskiyy, and the European leaders, is surely basically a pantomine for public consumption and a face-saving exit for all concerned, but especially for the US as a superpower. It actually has a similar feel to the UK’s round of Brexit ‘negotiations’ and all those ‘debates’ in Parliament, which came to absolutely nothing in the end except what the establishment always wanted – hard Brexit. But all that said, the appearance of peace talks over Ukraine, and the measured behaviour and demeanour of the leaders is a cause for optimism more than cynicism, I think.

      • JK redux

        Bayard
        August 18, 2025 at 19:48

        You don’t think much of the European leaders (or Zelenskiy)?

        Perhaps you prefer Trump?

        Or Putin?

        • MR MARK CUTTS

          JK Redux

          I didn’t see the EU leaders in ‘action’ so I can’t really say how things went.

          I will say this though:

          Trump has decided Ukraine is a ‘ bad investment ‘ – his job is now to keep his MAGA Base happy and tamp down (for now ) The Epstein stuff and circumnavigate the Neo – Cons.

          That said and it is only opinion his main job is to dis-engage to a certain extent from Ukraine and back peddle on European Security Guarantees.

          It looks a bit like a version of the Afghanistan fleeing but, maybe not as embarrassing.

          He want the EU leaders to join him so as not to take the rap for desertion on his own.

          I keep warning everyone I come across that ‘ America First ‘ means just that.

          Ukraine and many other countries including Israel and the UK and The EU need to understand that.

          If US interests are genuinely threatened, it is desertion or bombing time.

          This is how Big Imperialists work and there is only one in the world now.

        • Bayard

          “You don’t think much of the European leaders (or Zelenskiy)?”

          No, they are all a bunch of amoral opportunists, as is Trump. Trump’s sole virtue is that he’s not quite as bad as Biden. I do prefer Putin and so would you if he was President of the United States and not President of the Russian Federation.

          • JK redux

            Bayard
            August 19, 2025 at 07:26

            Thanks for the honest answer.

            When you look at Russia, do you wonder why it is so poor? An economy the same size of Spain or Italy?

            Dangerous and capable of doing great harm to some of its neighbours certainly.

            But limiting the lives of its people by choosing to spend so much gold and blood on corruption and war.

            And Putin would be far more dangerous if he was President of the US.

            And the USA would have lost the last of its aspirations to freedom and democracy.

            Putin is a cold blooded killer, a former KGB colonel FFS.

          • Bayard

            “When you look at Russia, do you wonder why it is so poor? An economy the same size of Spain or Italy?”

            That really depends on who you choose to believe. If you agree with those who think that Russia is a “gas station with nukes”, then you might be wondering that. However if you agree with those who say that Russia’s GDP is the fourth largest in the world, then you wouldn’t be. Even Wikipedia gives Russia’s GDP (PPP) as $7.192 trillion as opposed to that of Spain at $2.812 trillion or Italy at $3.719 trillion. For comparison the figure for the UK is $4.448 trillion. Yes the GDP per capita is lower, but what do you expect for a country so large and rural?

            “Dangerous and capable of doing great harm to some of its neighbours certainly.”

            Unlike the USA, which is not only capable of doing so, but also does, with monotonous regularity, and not just its neigbours either.

            “But limiting the lives of its people by choosing to spend so much gold and blood on corruption and war.”

            Completely unlike the country on the other side of the Bering Straits which has only not been at war for 13 years of its 250 odd years existence. Debt to GDP ratios: US, 11th in the world at 122% – spends more on its armed forces than the next five countries put together. Russia 14.9%, 29th from the bottom.

            “And Putin would be far more dangerous if he was President of the US.”

            Tell me, how many countries has Russia invaded since WWII and how many has the US? In what way would he have been “more dangerous” than the Bushes who invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, or Obama who destroyed Libya or all those POTUSs who have bankrolled Israel in its wars with its neighbours? In what way is Putin’s invasion of Ukraine any different to NATO’s invasion of parts of the former Yugoslavia?

            “Putin is a cold blooded killer, a former KGB colonel FFS.”

            All leaders of countries have to make decisions that end in people dying. Do you think Bush had sleepless nights because of all the Iraqis killed by the US troops under his command?

        • JK redux

          Stevie Boy
          August 18, 2025 at 23:42

          Truly we are blessed by our access to some posts here.

          Sharp, funny, policy focused and above all not using homophobic, misogynistic or antiSemitic tropes for a cheap laugh.

          Well done.

  • Crispa

    This is a tweet from Jonathan Cook to-day (Aug 18). Home Secretary Yvette Cooper has some serious questions about abuse of power to answer does she not? I read somewhere else that a recent Observer article might be treated as contempt of court as it prejudiced upcoming trials.
    “Today I was driving near High Wycombe. A Thames Valley police car was behind me for a minute or so. As I came to a complicated set of mini-roundabouts, it turned on its blue lights and set off its siren, forcing me to pull over in a dangerous section of road between the roundabouts.
    A policeman came over, bent down by the window and asked in the chummiest of tones: “Are you having a good day?” I said I was until he showed up.
    He asked if my name was Jonathan Cook. He then asked what I was doing here. I responded that I was visiting family. Was that a problem?
    He answered that it was routine to make checks on what he called “cross-border activity”. When I asked him what he meant by “cross-border activity”, he said the car was registered to an address in Bristol, and that was a two and a half hour drive away – it’s not, it’s 1 hour 45 minutes away. He added that it was a long way to come.
    I must have looked slightly stunned. He told me not to worry, wished me well and – with a smile – said I could continue on my way.
    Have others had a similar experience? Is it now normal to be stopped in the UK simply because you’re driving more than 90 minutes from home?”

    • M.J.

      Big Brother may be watching you, if you’ve been writing on “Palestine”. I wonder if Ilan Pappé (and Craig, who knows?) have had similar experiences.

    • Steve Hayes

      We had a strange experience a few years back. Various bigwigs (maybe including the US President, I don’t remember now) were here in South Wales and the place was crawling with spooks. We were driving home from visiting family when a vast black newish Audi passed us (on a dual carriageway) and pulled in in front. All of a sudden a huge cloud of white smoke emerged from its exhausts. It was so thick I couldn’t see anything and had to stop, assuming the ugly black lump was broken down in the middle of the cloud. But when it cleared the Audi was nowhere to be seen. I reported it to the local plod but they wanted dashcam footage or the registration number. I hope there was at least a quiet word with whatever juvenile prat was driving that monstrosity.

  • Harry Law

    Watching the EURO vassals crowding around Trumps table is embarrassing, Trump does not want to participate in this Ukraine debacle, he knows Russia is winning hands down, but like the business man he is, is still willing to sell Ukraine weapons, but they must be purchased first by the Euro vassals then passed on to Ukraine, ensuring the US gets its money. He does not like to be a loser, but does not mind leaving the Euros to this guaranteed loss and never ending money pit. I was surprised the vassals did not massage Trumps ego by all agreeing to nominate him for the Nobel peace prize. Pathetic.

      • Goose

        @JK redux

        Deference or not, he got Putin to reveal Russia’s terms for a deal : there’d be a freeze at the front in Zaporizhzhia (74%), Kherson(76%), in return for all Donetsk(currently 70%) and Luhansk (99%). Russia would also give up territory it holds in Sumy and Kharkiv provinces. Russia would tolerate Article-5 guarantees to Ukraine, without NATO forces being stationed in Ukraine.

        The idea of years and years more of this war, as Ukraine struggles to keep that 30% of Donetsk, should be unacceptable to all.

        • JK redux

          Goose
          August 19, 2025 at 17:08

          While an extension of the war may be “unacceptable” to Trump and Putin, it may not be to Ukraine.

          Would you have “permitted” the USSR to fight on if Moscow had fallen to the Nazis.

          Would you have risked English and US lives to supply a failing USSR?

          • Goose

            @JK redux

            Who speaks for Ukraine these days? The parliament, Azov Brigade, General Syrskyi; maybe General Valeri Zaluzhnyi – the man being groomed as Zelensky’s successor(see his recent Vogue photo shoot).

            Since it’s not clear who is really in charge in Ukraine, and Zelensky clearly doesn’t have the authority he once had to sign anything, it may be left to the US to force some deal on them via an ultimatum over NATO security guarantees. As bad as that sounds.

          • JK redux

            Goose
            August 19, 2025 at 19:29

            Not really up to us to tell Ukraine how to select its leaders.

            At present, Zelenskiy is the President and he has the executive power.

            Would you prefer a Russky stooge?

          • Harry Law

            Geopolitical analyst and commentator Glenn Diesen has pointed out, however, that Kiev is essentially attempting to create leverage out of nothing.
            “Europe will spend $100 billion it does not have, to buy weapons from America that it does not have, to arm soldiers that Ukraine now lacks,” he wrote, explaining further: “This is to confront Russia, which for 30 years warned it would respond to NATO militarizing its borders.” https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/europe-spend-100bn-it-doesnt-have-buy-weapons-america-it-doesnt-have-arm-soldiers
            Trump is saying the game is up, it is, Zelenski needs to finish this with the best deal he can, the longer it goes on the more his side lose soldiers, and the more land he will lose. Soon to be a landlocked rump state dependent on European handouts to survive.

          • Goose

            @JK redux

            Zelensky’s authority has waned considerably in recent months, he’s been politically wounded by the attempts to end the independence of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and the Special Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO). This, after NABU and SAPO had begun scrutinising several officials close to the president and his inner circle. It caused huge protests in Ukraine and even the EU noticed and objected.

          • MR MARK CUTTS

            JK Redux

            If Moscow had have fallen to the Nazis the west would not have been too upset.

            The reason being that Germany fighting to the near death ( even for a pyrrhic victory) would have weakened (and did weaken ) Germany and the carve up of Europe or a Truce would have only involved the US and The British and not The Soviet Union.

            Two dangers out of the way in one go.

            For all the media nonsense Ukraine and Russia is not in the same league as Nazi Germany V The Soviet Union.

            If only life and death was so simple and linear.

          • Bayard

            “While an extension of the war may be “unacceptable” to Trump and Putin, it may not be to Ukraine.”

            It’s nice to see that someone still believes in Ukraine’s sovereignty. If Ukraine wasn’t sovereign before 2014, it sure as shit wasn’t after, not when you had Nuland discussing who should be president.

            “Would you have risked English and US lives to supply a failing USSR?”

            Considering that the US was supplying the USSR via Archangel and Murmansk, it would have been no different if Moscow had fallen. If the two ports had fallen, then supply would have been impossible anyway, except via Alaska.

        • Pears Morgaine

          Nobody seems to be considering what the inhabitants of these areas want.

          I wonder if a similar solution could be applied to the ME. Let Israel keep those parts of the Gaza Strip and West Bank it’s occupied in return for allowing Palestine to occupy an area near Jerusalem.

          • MR MARK CUTTS

            pears Morgaine

            Considering that US Boots on the Ground is a No No then hopefully a peace plan can be aimed for.

            The problem with Ceasefires (see Israel and others as an example ) are broken – re- ceasefired – broken and so on and so on.

            The Europeans want what Trump is not offering which is physical US Military ( official not Blackwater stuff) support in Ukraine.

            They want to be at war with Russia but, not in a war with Russia.

            Trump knows this and if I read him – his MAGA base and even the Neo-Cons they are sanguine in terms of Europe keeping the pot boiling and giving Russian Regime Change another go at a later date as long as The Europeans pay for the ingredients to keep the pot boiling.

            The US doesn’t want to pay anymore and in fact it wants the money back from their ‘ bad investment.’

            After all this over the Ukranian people ( not Zelensky and his backers ) will be the one’s who suffer for the payback.

            They will have to do this from a depleted population and 20% less territory that they used to have.

            They will be hammered for generations to come.

            This is Imperialism in action right before our very eyes.

            Call it a Carve Up, either way but that is the absolute truth.

            Ordinary people pay, not the well off and rich, always and Yeltsin’s Russia in the early 90’s had the same outcome for the ordinary people – they were robbed too.

            This how Imperialism and capitalism works.

            Even amongst thieves – there are Hierarchies of gains.

            Watching the Europeans they would like something back for their bad investment too but, it is America First and always first.

            Always – always.

          • Bayard

            “Nobody seems to be considering what the inhabitants of these areas want.”

            Well Russia had referendums in the five oblasts and they were all in favour of not being part of Ukraine, but, on the other hand, that’s the Wrong Answer, so they must have been rigged. However yes, the US, the UK and the EU don’t do referendums, nor does Ukraine any more. Well they wouldn’t, not with all the polls showing that the vast majority want the war to stop, which is, of course, also the Wrong Answer.

        • JK redux

          Goose
          August 19, 2025 at 17:08

          “Deference or not”?

          Well which was it?

          Posters criticise Europeans for deference to Trump – why not acknowledge that Trump defers to Putin?

          • Bayard

            “Posters criticise Europeans for deference to Trump – why not acknowledge that Trump defers to Putin?”

            That’s a “have you stopped beating your wife” sort of question.

            Possibly because it’s a figment of yours and others’ imagination?

  • Tatyana

    I visited Crimea and started a topic about what I’ve seen there in the Forum section.
    Invite you all to have a look. I’d be happy to see your comments and questions.
    The story is far from finished, I’ll gradually add to it.

    Tomorrow I will tell you how Russia undermined the economy of the Crimean Khanate and thus destroyed it.
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/forums/topic/the-republic-of-crimea-summer-2025/


    [ Note to readers: Any replies concerning Crimea should be posted in the Crimea discussion thread notified above, not under this article. ]

  • El Dee

    It’s mentioned in passing in the document without giving detail but the reference to ‘violence’ made by ministers as justification must be as per the Wikipedia entry for them:

    “On 16 March 2025, Elbit’s Aztec West site was targeted by four Palestine Action activists with, according to BBC News, a “cherry picker style vehicle and a hammer attached to a rope to smash second floor windows and douse [the building with] red paint”.[32] The four were arrested on the site, all being charged with conspiracy to damage property and two being charged with one count of assault by beating.[33]

    The source given for this on Wikipedia is as follows:

    “Elbit Systems UK: Four charged after Palestine Action protest”. BBC News. 17 March 2025. Retrieved 3 April 2025.

    I have no idea what the assault actually refers to, what an ‘assault by beating’ actually is or whether the police have stretched a point to breaking. eg did they get paint on someone? Is THAT an assault??

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