Scottish Independence is an extremely attractive prospect to states at the United Nations, and for reasons that you might not expect.
Every state knows that the current UN structure is outdated and indefensible, with five states – US, China, Russia, UK and France – having a permanent seat and a total veto on the Security Council.
US abuse of the veto directly to continue the Gaza genocide has been flagrant and caused outrage.
Africa and South America have no permanent representation or veto. The prominence of the Imperial powers of the UK and France is anachronistic.
The difficulty is, that any change to the veto is subject to veto. So there has been stalemate, and during the genocide in Gaza the UN itself has been outraged, maligned, abused and practically useless.
States, and particularly the entire developing world, are desperate for a lever to crack open the P5.
Scottish Independence is that lever.
There is an entirely false assumption that England and Wales (assuming the Welsh have not also escaped occupation) would be the successor state and automatically take the UN P5 seat. That is absolutely wrong. It is in fact extremely unlikely that England would retain its P5 status.
Here are some of the reasons why:
1) Russia assumed all of the national debt and all other obligations of the former Soviet Union. This was a fundamental requirement for successor state status.
In the 2014 referendum and since, the UK government has made it crystal clear England would not do this and would seek to offload debt onto Scotland.
2) Russia left its nuclear and chemical weapons facilities in situ in the other CIS states. The nuclear weapons in Ukraine and the chemical weapons in Uzbekistan were then dismantled under international supervision.
There is no indication London would leave Trident in Scotland to be dismantled under international supervision.
3) The other CIS states all specifically agreed, under the Vienna Convention on Successor States, that Russia would be the successor state and specifically agreed that Russia would take the P5 seat.
There is no requirement for Scotland to do this – and indeed international recognition of Scotland may depend on not doing it, because the large majority of states want a lever for P5 reform.
4) Russia taking over the P5 seat was subject to a “no objections” mechanism in a letter to all General Assembly states from the Secretary General, enclosing Yeltsin’s letter of claim. There were no objections.
There would certainly be objections to England.
5) Russia had huge international sympathy, as the Soviet Union split amidst hopes for a new era of world peace.
By contrast the UK is extremely unpopular. It is viewed by the large majority of states in the world as complicit in Genocide. The attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya are not forgotten.
Do not underestimate the resentment caused by the massive cut in UK aid budgets under austerity. Starmer’s echoes of racist rhetoric have not gone unnoticed. The EU no longer can be counted on for automatic support.
Any attempt by England to take over the P5 seat would, after objections to the Secretary General’s letter and at the UN Credentials Committee, have to go to the UN General Assembly. There England would lose the vote. Even if it did succeed, the change would need to be approved by the Security Council – and, with the most delicious irony, would be subject to Chinese or Russian veto.
If England were not accepted as the successor state, the P5 reform question would perforce be blown wide open. How it would be shut again is unpredictable. Most conservative would be to substitute a new P5 member – such as India, Brazil or South Africa. A regional grouping may be used as a replacement, such as the African Union. Or best of all the entire system would be shaken up.
I have been thrice this year to the UN discussing why Scottish Independence is important with various national delegations. All of the above ramifications scan instantly through the mind of diplomats as soon as I mention Scottish Independence and P5 status. Which is why I can put my hand on my heart and tell you I am yet to encounter a single negative reaction.
It is vital to understand that, though states operate within a framework of international law, in introducing Scottish Independence to the decolonisation committee as a concept, this is a political question amongst states and not in any sense a judicial process. That is a fundamental misunderstanding.
I have never heard anybody contend that Scottish Independence can be achieved through the United Nations without support for it in Scotland. That is a ludicrous Aunt Sally that is used to denigrate what I am doing at the UN in combination with Liberation Scotland and Salvo.
But once Scottish Independence is declared in Scotland, we are going to need the support of the international community. I have never believed that London will willingly relinquish Scotland’s resources, and I still do not believe it. Independence will have to be achieved in the teeth of London opposition, through robust assertion and control at home and recognition abroad.
Here the work at the UN is vital.
At the UN Security Council, the UK permanent seat was already on a shoogly peg. Scottish Independence gives it a tug. The world is cheering.
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Craig, Trump is offering asylum to any Brits who are/have been the subject of Police attention for free speech and online activities. I suspect any criticism of Israel would not only get you banned from entry but thrown in jail to be expelled at the first opportunity.
The Trump White House is mulling political asylum for British free speech activists branded “thought criminals” under Keir Starmer’s regime, in one example offering refugee status to those prosecuted for silent protests outside abortion clinics as well as expressing online dissent.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-offers-lifeline-uk-thought-criminals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkCBhKs4faI
“These days, you get arrested and thrown in gaol, if you say you’re English don’t you?”
Ha, well – I think Trump’s offer of asylum for freedom of speech defenders is aimed at his fellow anti-woke types: pro-life, anti-immigrant, gender critical, white nationalist, etc. Freedom of speech of the pro-Palestinian or anti-Israeli variety is considered quite differently, with pro-Palestinian social media postings already being used as a grounds to deny US visas, and universities being defunded for allowing pro-Palestinian protests or even academic publications. Land of The Free, for some…
Of course, Freedom of Speech is a fine thing (if not quite an absolute) but it does just about by definition need to be applied equally to all sides of the arguments.
I hope you won´t mind Mr Murray (and Harry, above) if I repost this. It was buried in the undergrowth late at night and may have been missed.
It makes certain claims about how it is that the British State is able to practice a two tier legal system, and identifies evidence for those claims which is easy to verify independently.
John Cleary
November 17, 2025 at 00:07
To Bayard,
The reason they held on to the name ¨United Kingdom¨ is because some laws make specific reference to that entity.
If that entity disappears, then those laws are deleted.
The most important law in all of this is the Treason Felony Act of 1848, which converted the crime of treason away from a political offence, and into a criminal offence. It grants enormous powers to ¨our Most Gracious Lady the Queen¨ and which is central to this dictatorship.
I agree that it makes no sense because Northern Ireland is not and never has been a kingdom, but that doesn´t matter to a dictatorship, does it?
And of course the law was formally challenged under the Human Rights Act (1998). The case is R v Rusbridger (2003).
But because Blair the sneak passed a Human Rights Act that fired blanks*, the high and mighty of the law left the Treason Felony Act (1848) intact as part of the law of the land, all the while assuring all and sundry that such a law would NEVER be enforced.
The British State is full of shit.
*The Human Rights Act of 1998, you know, the one they are always waving in the faces of the people, was passed as defective legislation.
The European Convention, on which the act was based, includes Article 13. This Article guarantees the right to an effective remedy, even against an over mighty government. Check it out.
That Article was quietly left out of the Act. It is simply not there. Check it out.
The effect of all of this, with the Treason Felony Act operating in conjunction with the defective Human Rights Act, is to allow selective application of Human Rights. If the Regime likes you, you have human rights coming out of the Kazoo. If the Regime does not like you, well, sorry my son. You ain´t got no human rights.
Like the people in Epping
So Russia and Nato will soon be at war. Well, that shouldn’t last too long::
Germany Predicts NATO to Start War with Russia
A war between Russia and NATO could begin in 2028, according to the German Defense Minister. Pistorius discussed the likelihood of conflict in an interview with the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung newspaper.
He said the initial forecast was for 2029, but now some experts are citing 2028. Many military historians even believe that Europe has experienced its last summer of peace, the German minister noted.
He cited this frightening forecast while speaking about the need to strengthen the alliance’s armed forces in preparation for possible military action against Russia.
https://news.by/eng/news/v_mire/germany-predicts-nato-to-start-war-with-russia
And Russia’s response:
“Forced to take measures”: the Kremlin responded to the warning of the German Minister of Defense about the start of a Russia-NATO war
Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, in response to German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius’ warning about a possible Russian attack on NATO, that Russia “may take measures to ensure security.” But he stressed that Moscow does not seek confrontation with NATO countries.
https://unn.ua/en/news/forced-to-take-measures-the-kremlin-responded-to-the-warning-of-the-german-minister-of-defense-about-the-start-of-a-russia-nato-war
I suppose the German war-mongering fear-mongering fascists had to come up with some new angle so as to repeat their garbage:
Russia may attack Nato in next four years, German defence chief warns
1 June 2025
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62v63gl8rvo
Russia May Launch ‘Direct Military Confrontation’ With NATO, Germany Warns
Oct 14, 2025
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-military-confrontation-nato-germany-warns-10875185
It would be interesting to count up how many times so-called military leaders in Germany and Britain and elsewhere in Europe have spouted this B/S during the past few years (and in Australia, it’s China). These people really are the scum of the Earth!
Have no fear Alan, Starmer, Merz and Macron will be lucky to last another 6 months. Meanwhile Trump and Rubio are ginning up a war with Venezuela based on drug smuggling, when most of the drugs are shipped on the Pacific side [Colombia]. It has nothing to do with Venezuela having the largest oil reserves in the world, dwarfing Saudi Arabia.
@BenjaminNorton
The so-called “Cartel de los Soles” or “Suns Cartel” does NOT exist. This was admitted by many mainstream media outlets.
Trump & Marco Rubio are trying to justify their neocolonial war of aggression on Venezuela by falsely claiming Maduro is a “narco-terrorist”.
It’s “WMDs” 2.0
Germany under F Merz frantically rearming
BERLIN — Germany’s governing parties moved to provide Ukraine with €3 billion in additional funding, significantly upping military assistance at a time U.S. support for the embattled country is wavering.
The additional money is to be spent on artillery, drones, armored vehicles, and two Patriot air defense systems, according to German media reports citing the defense ministry.
https://www.politico.eu/article/german-coalition-ups-military-aid-ukraine/
Armored German supplied vehicles surging across Ukraine, deliveries of long range German Taurus cruise missiles capable of reaching Moscow, and bellicose rhetoric from German leaders. What could possibly go wrong?
On the 80th anniversary of the victory over Nazism, the taz newspaper has once again confronted the newly elected chancellor, Friedrich Merz with new findings about his Nazi grandfather. A request by the newspaper to his party’s press office remained unanswered. Merz’s political party prefers to remain silent.
All in all, the story of Merz’s Nazi grandfather isn’t surprising. Merz’s Nazi grand-daddy was one of millions of profiteers who had willingly and consciously joined and enjoyed the Nazi system.
Today, we know that Merz’s Nazi grandfather – even as mayor of Brilon – was an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler.
https://countercurrents.org/2025/06/the-nazi-heritage-of-germanys-chancellor/
Came across this a bit earlier:
EU proposes cut of members’ GDP to finance Ukraine – Bloomberg
Brussels reportedly plans to offer bloc countries a choice between paying $100 billion, taking on joint debt, or seizing Russia’s frozen money
The EU has reportedly told its members that should a controversial plan to leverage Russian assets frozen in Belgium to finance Ukraine prove unworkable, it will seek a cut of each member state’s GDP to put up cash to Kiev.
According to a document circulated earlier this month and cited by Bloomberg, the bloc wants to issue a loan of around €140 billion ($160 billion) to Ukraine, using Russia’s immobilized central-bank reserves as collateral and repayable if Russia pays war reparations…
.https://torre.news/en/eu-proposes-cut-of-members-gdp-to-finance-ukraine-bloomberg
A UK Minister wants to steal Russian foreign reserve assets $200 billion to give to Ukraine and send long range missiles to Ukraine.
This from the Guardian.
“Starmer intends to make the case for using frozen assets to fund Ukraine’s defences.
Cabinet Office minister Nick Thomas-Symonds told LBC:
We want to try and take Russian oil and gas off the global market.
We want also to finish the job on the frozen Russian sovereign assets, essentially so we can use them to unlock billions of pounds to fund Ukraine’s defences and, thirdly, supplying long-range capabilities.
By that, I mean missiles to Ukraine going into the winter months, which obviously has jobs benefits here in the United Kingdom as well”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/oct/24/volodmyr-zelenskyy-ukraine-russia-vladimir-putin-sanctions-keir-starmer-coalition-of-the-willing-military-support-europe-live-news
“According to a document circulated earlier this month and cited by Bloomberg, the bloc wants to issue a loan of around €140 billion ($160 billion) to Ukraine, using Russia’s immobilized central-bank reserves as collateral and repayable if Russia pays war reparations”
This is madness, Trump is willing to sell US military equipment to the EU, for them to give to Ukraine, in the hope that when Ukraine wins the war, the reparations Russia pays to Ukraine, will then be paid back to the EU. And pigs might fly.
Russia has won the war, Trump knows that, and just like the dealer he is, he is ensuring the US doesn’t lose any more money simply by getting the fools in Europe to pay the US upfront for the weapons, no fool he.
The EU and UK do not believe Ukraine has lost the war with Russia, Zelenski will not accept the loss of one inch of Ukraine territory, even though Crimea and the four Oblasts have seceded from Ukraine with vast majority approval from referendums there. They are all now part of the Russian Federation. Putin demands Zelenski recognizes these facts and also that no NATO forces enter Ukraine (this was the cause of the war). Putin wants an end to the war based on the above demands, Putin holds all the cards. The danger now is European and UK aggressiveness (i.e. stealing Russian foreign reserves and arming Ukraine to the teeth) ensuring they become co-belligerents. Make no mistake Russia will not capitulate to European or Ukrainian demands, if they want war, they will get it, to Russia this war is an existential threat. To the EU and US and NATO generally it is a loss of credibility. If they persist without conceding Russia’s bottom lines, they will lose a lot more than credibility.
They’ve been talking this shite for years, along with guff about the Coalition of the Retarded. The results have been nothing.
It doesn’t matter a f*ck what the Eurocucks & YooKay accept. Russia has already won the war, the question is how long the fighting yet persists.
NATO isn’t doing shit to stop that, because they can’t. It’s not a question of desire. It’s a material reality that can’t be self-deluded, propagandised and bullshitted away.
The economies of the western regimes have ALL been gutted by their inability to act independently of the hegemon. So, thanks to Russia and sino phobia, Ukraine, Gaza, covid even, they have no indigenous manufacturing, no independent power infrastructures, no independent media and no indigenous independent militaries. They are all technically bankrupt with their citizens confused and demoralised and heavily controlled. NATO and the West is not a threat, they are a huge joke on the brink of total destruction. Banging the war drum is the only way these clowns can convince themselves that they have any relevance – they don’t.
Allan Howard
November 17, 2025 at 22:52
If Russia can’t defeat Ukraine (40 millions) in 3 years, what makes you think that they could defeat Europe (?500 millions) toute suite?
Tankies gotta tank, I suppose.
” what makes you think that they could defeat Europe (?500 millions) toute suite?”
Possibly because the European countries have sent so much of their stockpiles of arms to Ukraine? I don’t suppose you have considered that the length of time is a feature not a bug. More time = more NATO arms destroyed in Ukraine.
Copers gotta cope, I suppose.
Bayard
November 18, 2025 at 20:20
Yes but European (and Ukrainian) ams production is increasing.
Faster than Russia can match.
Again, do you really believe that Russia could defeat Poland alone given that it is still struggling to defeat Ukraine?
Still less France, Germany, Italy and England?
Not to mention the Baltic countries, Norway, Sweden and Denmark?
Ha Ha Ha, I’ll have a pint of whatever you’ve been drinking, Ukrainian antifreeze !
Ah the enigmatic nature of Russian military capability. On the one hand too feeble to defeat Poland – ” alone ” ; yet such a terrifying threat to the entirety of Europe that the latter absolutely must bankrupt itself in order to counter this Beast From The East – slouching towards Hampstead to be ( re )born.
It’s nothing short of astonishing that ( supposedly ) * intelligent * people are celebrating & cheerleading this utterly insane and almost certainly ruinous Arms Race: have you and your ilk learned N.O.T.H.I.N.G from the oceans of blood & pain & suffering that flowed almost continuously throughout the 20thC and has seeped into the first quarter of this one?
Was that not enough, has the mentally unhinged desire for more & more & more human agony not been sated yet.
Not to mention the ecological carnage. The same psychotics who would have us give up ( would compel us to give up ) even more of our freedoms in supplication to the demented neo-religion of Net Zero are precisely the ones clamouring for more lethal means to destroy the Planet.
To answer your questions……yes, Russia can, is, and will out-produce all those delusional clown-countries. It will also outfight, out-defend & outlast those U.S Vassals – poddles dreaming of being rottweilers – if required.
That, of course, is this putative Euro Salvation Army is ever stupid enough to actually precipitate a shooting war with Russia. Far more likely is a continuation of the risible posturing, Zelly-hugging-for-domestic-diversionary-consumption
performances and further economic/social collapse of the main screamers, ie the Germs, Frankenfurters & Johnny Bullshit.
A poster named Peter gave you ( and us ) an excellent, pinpoint accurate precis of the reasons and personae behind this Proxy War; all of it demonstrably true for anyone not made blind & insane by virulent Russophobia and gobsmacking hypocrisy – I’ll ask again……what would the US do if Russia ( or China ) placed WMD on the Canadian or Mexican border? You know the answer, yet for some, inexplicable, reason Russia is just supposed to acquiesce to * NATO * doing exactly that to it. That you persist in promoting this lunacy. despite overwhelming evidence of the bone-deep bad faith informing it, suggests you are either actually believe the mental mince being served-up by the Political/MSM Class – in which case you are completely delusional; or you know fine well it’s all manufactured pabulum and choose to cheerlead for it anyway – in which case you simply an obsessive ideologue.
Grow TF up. ” we’re ” not the good guys here. The West has lost the plot, along with it’s moral and psychological compass. ” We’re ” not fighting some Holy War against infidel barbarians: we’re being led by the nose into yet one more Neocon fiasco; instigated by Global Capitalist interests and in service to those interests
¨Grow TF up. ” we’re ” not the good guys here.¨
Exactly right, Robert. I´m on record here that the British are the most propagandised people on the planet, and you are to be congratulated on seeing through it all.
Over twenty five years ago I warned the then Attorney General of the USA
¨The people are not stupid but they know nothing because they are subjects. And subjects have no rights to truth, information, balance or free expression other than those the Sovereign chooses to bestow.¨
The British State, and its servants, they lie and lie and lie again.
For who is above the Sovereign of the United Kingdom? Who can call him out for his lies?
Only the Christian God, in whose name he reigns, but does not respect.
Robert Hughes
November 19, 2025 at 06:56
A lot of tanky-ism there. Great Russia vs “delusional clown-countries”…
My point stands.
If Russia cannot defeat Ukraine after 3 years and the loss of hundreds of thousands of men, how can it hope to defeat “Poland alone? Still less France, Germany, Italy and England?
Not to mention the Baltic countries, Norway, Sweden and Denmark?”
Their only hope is that we allow them to accomplish a “salami strategy”, nibbling away at the Baltics, inducing defeatism.
Victor Orban said “This whole matter[the Ukraine war] is a bit like trying to help an alcoholic by sending them another crate of vodka. Could not agree more, The war is lost, the longer it goes on the more money and territory is lost, but more importantly the more Unkrainians are being slaughtered. Zelenski’s day’s are numbered. As well as fighting a proxy war for NATO his term as President has expired. As another commentator has observed…
Zelensky’s five year term ended May 20th, 2024. He has no legitimate claim to power or negotiations.
In addition:
He has canceled elections.
He jails anyone who dissent.
He bans opposition parties.
He arrests opposition party leaders.
He has seized all media.
He tortures and murders American citizens. He puts American citizens and American elected officials on hit lists.
He arrests priests and has closed/seized hundreds of churches.
Hell of a “democracy” and freedom to die for…
In a letter to the leaders of the European Union, Ursula von der Leyen argued it was essential for the bloc to plug Ukraine’s $157 billion budget gap over the next two years. “It will now be key to rapidly reach a clear commitment on how to ensure that the necessary funding for Ukraine will be agreed at the next European Council meeting in December,” she wrote. “Clearly, there are no easy options.” Von der Leyen continued, “Europe cannot afford paralysis, either by hesitation or by the search for perfect or simple solutions which do not exist.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/its-astonishing-viktor-orban-reacts-europe-attempting-fill-ukraines-157bn-budget-gap
Harry Law
November 19, 2025 at 11:57
“He has canceled elections.
He jails anyone who dissent.
He bans opposition parties.
He arrests opposition party leaders.
He has seized all media.
He tortures and murders American citizens. He puts American citizens and American elected officials on hit lists.
He arrests priests and has closed/seized hundreds of churches.”
Reminds me of Ukraine’s Eastern neighbour.
JD Redux – “England”?
JK re ducks ….if it ever occurred to you that Russia has not – yet – * formally * defeated Ukraine, it’s because of the immense restraint shown by the Russian side – y’know unlike the Yank indiscriminate ” shock & awe ” pulverising of a much weaker opponent – Iraq, I imagine, such is your evident Russophobia, you would be psychologically unable to concede as much publicly.
VP is on record several times saying he considers the Ukrainians ” brother Slavs ” and had the Zelensky Criminal Operation accepted the peace deal on offer in 2022 that country would have been spared the ravages of war and be in an infinitely better position than it currently is.
It has also taken this long to complete the SMO because the Russians kept thinking that surely, eventually, some kind of sanity would prevail among the West leaderships; that they would see that Russia’s security concerns were entirely legitimate and that having iterated repeatedly that Ukraine becoming a NATO member was something they would not – could not FFS – tolerate would seek to bring the conflict to an end
Alas, no such sanity arose; on the contrary, nothing but dumb belligerence and grotesque posturing has ensued: a total abandonment of Diplomacy, in it’s place a doubling, trebling down of punitive sanctions and the ramping-up of weapons and absurd sabre-rattling.
You seem to think, by referring to all those countries, that quantity will best quality and somehow intimidate and force Russia to concede. It won’t, no matter how many more countries are added to this Coalition of the Delusional.
Russia will not be defeated. How clearer can that be than the statement made by Lavrov……” a world without Russia is a world we cannot countenance “. To defeat Russia would mean the total obliteration of the West, ie the ultimate Phyrric victory.
@ John Cleary. Cheers John, coming from you, those kind words are particularly appreciated
” I´m on record here that the British are the most propagandised people on the planet, ”
Might I suggest a little research into conditions in North Korea? Or China for that matter.
” the immense restraint shown by the Russian side ”
Yeah that’s a good one! The Russians are fighting ‘WW1 with drones’ out of choice.
Restraint doesn’t win wars. Russia would love for this to turn into a war of movement again, tanks making sweeping advances across Ukraine and finishing this war which is draining their economy. Russia is becoming increasingly dependent on imports of war material from China, Iran and North Korea. The latter had been supplying 70% of artillery ammunition (of dubious quality) to Russia but has had to halve exports as its own stockpiles run low.
Piers,
Let me tell you a thing or two about North Korea.
Do you know why the ´rocket man´ went the nuclear route?
Every year, at harvest time, that piece of shit Clinton would put US and South forces on alert, threatening invasion.
The North Koreans had to respond with their own military, which meant that much needed men were taken away from getting in the harvest. As a result, harvests were poor, and pos Clinton would tell the world how the Koreans were a failure, and could not even fed themselves.
So the Koreans went nuclear. If the Yanks and South invaded they would get nuked. And it worked. The harvests got better, and Kim learned an important lesson. The only thing Yanks respect is nuclear weapons.
Thank’s John Cleary re North Korea. A few years ago Trump had a dispute with North Korea, Trump being the bully that he is sent an aircraft carrier task force (I think 3 carriers) to threaten little Kim. Kim was not intimidated and Trump (TACO) withdrew the warships. Later Trump visited NK’s dear leader and got on very well with him. He was playing footsie with him under the table. The moral of the story is the possession of nuclear weapons keep you safe. The second lesson is that Trump is a bloviating fool and a man who is just ‘all hat and no cattle’ Could be Maduro will hopefully find that out in due course.
” Let me tell you a thing or two about North Korea… ”
Where did you get all that from? Direct from Radio PyongYang? Blame the west and not the inherent contempt and incompetence of their own government. North Koreans are STILL starving and still being repressed. Maybe if Kim sent a little less on nukes and his military generally his people would be better off.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/east-asia/north-korea/report-korea-democratic-peoples-republic-of/
@ Pears Morgaine
China & North Korea may have their own peculiar propaganda styles, that don’t translate well to other cultures.
Yet what they get told about the world and themselves. Is almost certainly more truthful and factually based.
Than the endless full-spectrum, mass-multi-media deluge of rancid dogshite that the benighted natives of the British Isles face every day.
Even the fucking mundane product adverts in Britain are dystopian neo-shit-lib propaganda. I highly doubt the DPRK goes quite that far on every *single* goddamn thing, overtly or subtly.
” what they get told about the world and themselves. Is almost certainly more truthful and factually based. ”
Really? Just how would you know that?
“Might I suggest a little research into conditions in North Korea? Or China for that matter.”
Off you go then. Do let us know when you find something that isn’t from a publication like the “Daily Mail” or a USA think tank. I’d be genuinely interested in reading it.
New peace proposals underway with a US 28 point plan.. “According to people with direct knowledge of the document, the draft plan would require Ukraine to cede the remainder of the eastern Donbas region — including land currently under Kyiv control — and cut the size of its armed forces by half.
Crucially, it also calls for Ukraine to abandon key categories of weaponry and would include the rollback of US military assistance that has been vital to its defence, potentially leaving the country vulnerable to future Russian aggression.
It would also stipulate that Russian be recognized as an official state language in Ukraine and grant official status to the local branch of the Russian Orthodox Church — provisions echoing long-standing Kremlin political objectives.”
The 28-point framework is organized around four major themes: securing peace in Ukraine, establishing security guarantees, addressing broader European security concerns, and defining the future of US relations with both Russia and Ukraine. An important highlight is that the talks are taking place without Ukraine or Europe at the table”. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-feels-its-being-heard-trump-advancing-secret-28-point-plan-end-ukraine-war
This is the only way to bring peace, negotiate without Zelensky or those three Dwarfs, Merz, Macron and Starmer [Dopey] at the table.
“Yes but European (and Ukrainian) arms production is increasing. Faster than Russia can match.”
Do you have anything other than your unsupported word to back that up?
“If Russia cannot defeat Ukraine after 3 years and the loss of hundreds of thousands of men, how can it hope to defeat “Poland alone? Still less France, Germany, Italy and England?”
Do you actually know the size of those country’s armed forces? Remember, this time, it is they who would be attacking. It’s one thing getting people to join up when your country is under threat, quite another when you are the aggressor. Admittedly, Ireland has never attacked any other country in its existence, so this would be something foreign to you.
Harry Law
November 19, 2025 at 21:56
You said ” Crucially, it also calls for Ukraine to abandon key categories of weaponry and would include the rollback of US military assistance that has been vital to its defence, potentially leaving the country vulnerable to future Russian aggression.”
And you would welcome that vulnerability?
” This is the only way to bring peace, negotiate without Zelensky ”
Presumably you’d be happy if two super-powers got together and decided Scotland’s future without any input from its leaders or population?
This is appeasement, not peace. Appeasement doesn’t work. It would rely on Putin’s security guarantees which as we all know are worthless.
“This is appeasement, not peace. Appeasement doesn’t work. It would rely on Putin’s security guarantees which as we all know are worthless.”
“We”? Would that be you and your mates in the Western MSM? We all know that the UK’s and the US’s security guarantees are worthless, but what evidence do you have that the Russian ones are?
Also, what distinguishes “appeasement” from “diplomacy”? Why do you think that “war war” is better than “jaw jaw”?
Someone had blundered. (Von der leyen, Merz, Starmer and Macron.)
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the Mad Europeans..
@ Pears.
Easy, I’ve looked at the content in the messaging and the intended meanings of same. Rather than the eccentric presentation and slanted 2nd hand reports of Western propaganda.
What they get told is oftimes surprisingly candid and more connected to an actually existing reality. Even if it is spun & slanted in particular ways.
The people in the YooKay OTOH, get mindfucking delusional fabrications as a matter of course.
With enough support, it should be possible to organise a public gathering meeting, coinciding with other public meetings, all over Scotland and declaring UDI there and then, regardless what feckless Westminster slaves do in the Scottish Parliament.
Independence will have to be taken by civil disobedience and active collaboration all over Scotland, ideally with support of so called eminent public servants and supporters everywhere.
England is addicted to exploitation and will resist, as the establishments stooges will not want to change their empire allures they know so well.
Nevermind.
Most Scots are in the dark about the illegal union – they are not informed – the foreign media that passes as Scottish in Scotland – will never inform them of the union lie – the colonial administration at Holyrood – won’t inform them either, it wants the status quo to remain intact and its also unionist in nature – the other parties, Greens aside – ( they too are unionist in nature) such as the Lib/Dems, Labour and the Tories are all branch offices of their London HQ’s they are not registered with the Electoral Commission as Scottish parties, in effect they are Fifth Column parties – placed in Holyrood to make sure Scots never break free from colonial masters at Westminster.
Holyrood is a captured administration its job is to give off the a sense of the democratic process in action – their are no indy parties at Holyrood, and around half of Scotland’s population have no representation at Holyrood.
Scotland judiciary is captured as is the COPFS – ten of the top officers at Police Scotland are English or from Northern Ireland – most of the important positions in public bodies now have foreigners and gatekeepers parachuted into them – I’m all for UDI – Scots would need to take Holyrood, and depose most of the foreign gatekeepers, and shutdown the propaganda media machines in Scotland – of course Scotland is a unarmed colony, so I’d imagine Westminster would send its armed forces to Scotland yet again.
Liberation and Salvo are trying to get Scotland declared a colony of England’s which it is – we need onto the UN’s C-24 group.
Hi Moderator.
I hope you will accept a poem on this thread as it is linked to yesterday’s UN vote on Gaza.
In step and on parade, the Bakers Dozen masquerade.
The Patricians and the Tribunes of the Plebs,
Ensconced around the table breaking bread;
And form a conclave to conciliate King Herod.
Sweetmeats, kebabs and wine (like blood) goes to their heads,
A toga’d bacchanal for hostages, in thrall
Enthralled obseisances are led, for sweet and sour promises,
Prostrate in adorations of the Munjeet President.
Oh the verifiable stain on their abstentions,
The voided marks and murk of their pretensions,
How goes the vaunted foes of fascism ?
So fastidious and shy, the coquettes’ glances whistle-by.
JohnnyOh45, I can’t match your poetry, but you inspired me to attempt a haiku:
Palestinians
Only the just speak for them
From other cultures
Thanks M.J
Unfortunately the Gaza resistance is not represented at the UN. It appears China and Russia don’t want to interupt their adversary in making its mistakes but it is still hard to take. We can only try and raise our voices as your haiku alludes to.
Best wishes.
An interesting point of view.
But politics doesn’t run on analogies. Politics runs on power. If London will say – we’ll keep the SC seat, who’s there to object? Other SC members?
In the worst-case scenario, the SC will hold a vote to keep England. The vote will pass, perhaps in exchange for certain concessions that London will be in a position to offer, as usual in politics (such as for example the recognition of China’s and Russia’s territorial claims in Asia).
Besides, no P5 member is likely to have any interest whatsoever in establishing a legal precedent allowing a loss of their seat.
However – with absolute certainty – irrespective of any provinces breaking off, London will carry on all its current international obligations, including international relations, state recogntion, all the signed treaties and agreements, and all its memberships in international bodies (UN, ITU, IMO, IPU, WIPO, etc. etc.). They’re also certain to keep the army – no government I can think of would willingly disarm itself. They may only try to offload a part of the national debt onto Scotland’s shoulders in an attempt of making it a bit weaker and a bit more dependent on England.
Because – if only offloading a small part of the territory could be a way of freeing one’s self from international obligations, most countries would have practised it countless times. So no, the UK will have a legal successor, and that’ll still be the country having its capital in London. And all the UN members will support this if it came to a vote.
“England’s Dreaming”.
Just realism. Ideas for a UN reform have been around for 40 years at least, and were consistently blocked by the big 5. I see no prospects for a change.
The latest from Salvo/Liberation.
https://indd.adobe.com/view/24c6b790-819c-4ced-8dca-6822fa791f63
London’s refusal to assume the whole of the national debt in the event of Scottish independence was of course a tactic to discourage Scotts from voting for independence. If Scotts thought independence would wipe clean their debt, despite decades of even more outrageous government spending deficits than the rest of The UK, wouldn’t everybody be on the streets campaigning for it tomorrow? Free money, wheyhey!
Honestly, though, I think the independence opportunity has been missed now. The last referendum was pretty close, but unfortunately no cigar, and London is absolutely not going to make that mistake again. The kind of mass uprising that Mr Murray dreams of, enough to declare independence at the Scottish Parliament and take the claim to The UN, is never going to happen. The inability of the independence brigade to even organize their own affairs will prevent most of the population trusting them with a mandate to completely build a new country’s institutions from scratch, in the face of London’s opposition. The failure of the SNP to map out, or even discuss, a detailed and credible plan for such a new country when they had the chance sealed their fate. And if Scottish public opinion does ever veer dangerously close to revolution then London can always offer a federal union to placate the majority, requiring a UK-wide referendum and potentially resulting in a Canadian or German model of government – permanent and genuine autonomy for the nations, unlike the current joke of a Scottish “Parliament” that has no real power and just provides a gravy train for a corrupt, local political class.
That federal option might actually be something worth fighting for constitutionally in The UK.
“The attacks on Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya are not forgotten”
Sadly the attack on Yugoslavia seems to be largely forgotten, yet it was the precursor of them all. If it had been stopped; if the ICJ had not washed its hands by claiming it lacked jurisdiction, none of those others might have happened.
The REALLY interesting part of this is that Blair was able to commit this most supreme of all war crimes without placing at risk the British state nor its Sovereign.
People in business know to be wary of ¨straw man directors¨. These are directors who present themselves as legitimate, but who in fact have not been lawfully appointed. The Companies Acts deal with matters such as these under the heading ¨Validity of acts of Directors¨.
What happens is that when the cheated party seeks to enforce an agreement they find that the director is disowned by the counterparty.
The Chinese understood this when in 1997 they insisted the document returning Hong Kong be signed by Prince Charles. They understood Blair´s word and signature were worthless, so the current King Charles was forced to travel to Hong Kong alongside Blair.
Blair was finally outed as the fake prime minister at the meeting of the Council of Europe at Feira, Portugal on 20 June 2000.
There ain´t no gangster like a British gangster.
And then of course Slobodan Milosovic very conveniently ¨died¨ before he had the chance to give his side of the story.
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