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michael norton
It does seem, that the new government care little for the British pensioners.
Robbed of their winter Fuel allowances.
Let the bastards freeze.
Put up cost of their drinking water.
Let the bastards go thirsty.
Put up the cost of Employer’s National Insurance, let businesses go to the wall, felling the jobs of the barely managing.
Buy new American F-35 A aircraft so we can be even more war-like towards China – Russia – Iran.
Funny Old World.michael norton
Sir Starmer loves his time abroad, swanning about looking important at fancy foreign summits. He’s barely set foot on home soil in weeks.
Yesterday, for the second time in a row, Angela Rayner stood in for him at Prime Minister’s questions.
He wants us to go to a war footing, yet Starmer is hardly in the U.K.
His time is coming to a close.Fat Jon
He should have thought about that, when cutting benefits in order to pay for nuclear bombers.
Michael Foot and Tony Benn will be rolling in their graves at the thought of Starmer leading a Labour government.
michael norton
Quote BBC
The U.K. Labour government is to buy at least 12 new F-35A fighter jets that can carry nuclear bombs, the prime minister Sir Keir Rodney Starmer has announced.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c335406gxdvo
David Cameron’s administration, talked this through and they decided as we have so little money, we would just buy F-35B,
these are the jump-jet models, they can land on a frigate, these are the ones that are used on the two new aircraft carriers with the jump-ramp.So, after decades of having all our nuclear eggs in one type of basket, why are we now ramping things up?
This is Starmer creeping up to Trump.ET
Michael, do you expect anything different from the next prime minister whether that be reform, conservative or labour?
michael norton
@ ET
good point.But why after thirty plus years of being satisfied that our nuclear submarine weapon delivery system is good enough, do we now wish to provoke Russia by purchasing F-35 A.
No good threatening China, they could not reach.
I suppose if we flew from Cyprus we could bomb Iran – but why would we want to do that, they are no threat to us.
It is madness, without the public being asked, is this our future, to be war fodder for sir Starmer?Clark
– “But why after thirty plus years of being satisfied that our nuclear submarine weapon delivery system is good enough, do we now wish to provoke Russia by purchasing F-35 A?”
1) Perpetual “economic growth” requires perpetual increase in extraction of finite natural resources which, as you rightly point out, are depleting. So the West hopes to regime-change every country that won’t open their resources to Western extraction.
2) A lot of us plebs feel we don’t really want more and more and more pointless trinkets, but war smashes necessary infrastructure that absolutely has to be replaced, thus propping up “economic growth”.
3) See Craig’s current post:
– This spaghetti tangle of ownership of RAF aircraft is rather surprising to those of us who naively believed that RAF military aircraft belonged to the RAF, and that the hundreds of billions of pounds the state lavishes on “defence” was used to do things like buy military jets, rather than make rich financiers still richer.
– The long tree of subsidiary companies is not only to disguise ownership. At every single stage it provides opportunity for tax avoidance and for other forms of corruption, like consultancy contracts or directorships handed out to the contacts or nominated go-betweens of the politicians and senior civil servants. If you saw a company called Pace Bidco Ltd were giving a remunerative consultancy to the son of an ex-government minister, or to a firm registered to his local landlord, why would that ring alarm bells or connect to the RAF?”
– Defence spending is more prone to corruption than any other form of spending and that is why venal politicians are always extremely keen to boost it. No UK politician has ever proposed to increase defence spending by more than Keir Starmer, who wants to lift it by £120 billion a year.
– The RAF’s Voyager aircraft are effectively being provided under the Private Finance Initiative. Exactly how much money the hedge fund managers and this string of companies are taking out of the defence budget is hard to know.
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There’s your Elite, michael. You say Starmer isn’t one of them, he just works for them. The deal is, he’ll become one of them when he leaves office; a rosy future has already been promised to him, just the same as Blair. It’s called “The Revolving Door” – out of government, and straight into a very cushy, lucrative role in the private sector. Blair now gets to jet to glamorous gatherings all over the world giving one hour speeches at £100,000 a pop.
That’s why so many politicians lie and deceive just the same, no matter which party. It’s a scam.
ET
“But why after thirty plus years of being satisfied that our nuclear submarine weapon delivery system is good enough, do we now wish to provoke Russia by purchasing F-35 A.”
If they don’t cough up some money for the MIC, the MIC will send Phil and Grant to rough us up. It’s not just the UK, NATO has just promised to spend 5% of GDP too. It’s money laundering.
michael norton
@ ET
it seems that the Trump NATO meeting, that he squeezed agreement of 5% out of most, also marks a winding down of U.S.A. interest in Project Ukraine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiIfn8i_2Iw
The DuranVery, very unlikely, that many European states can cough up 5% of their GDP, without invoking ghastly troubles in their own populations.
Is it potholes/schools/hospitals/pensioner’s wellbeing or is it war?Clark
Potholes/schools/hospitals/pensioner’s wellbeing = the people.
War = weapons, dominance = the Elite.It has been moving in the same direction for decades, so voting doesn’t seem to work.
So, what do we do about it?michael norton
Looks like Global Warming – Net Zero is causing the de-industrialisation of Britain.
Longannet
Ravenscraig
Grangemouth
Port TalbotU.K. car production plunges to 76-year low for May
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2409d67z3oonly the Defence Industries are booming
michael norton
Sir Keir
3 U turns in a few weeks,
are the wheels about to come off?Will the fourth U turn
be the stepping back from war with Russia?michael norton
@ Clark
“So, what do we do about it?”Well we have tried Old Labour, New Labour, Conservative and Unionist, Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition, Conservative, on their own, now, one Year of Left Wing Labour War Mongering/Fuck The Pensioners/Disabled.
Only Nigel Farage, left to try.
Clark
– “are the wheels about to come off?”
I sincerely hope so.
– “Only Nigel Farage, left to try.”
Grief, don’t try him, he supports Israel! Dead giveaway that he’s another warmonger. I was protesting outside Teledyne-E2V Chelmsford last Tuesday. They’ve had no military export licenses except to Israel since 2015. Israel keeps the war industry afloat:
caat.org.uk/data/exports-uk/licence-list?company=Teledyne+Technologies
The one the legacy media really didn’t want us to try was Jeremy Corbyn. The man who whipped the Labour Party MPs to vote for Brexit, and was then undermined, betrayed and expelled from Labour by none other than Kier Starmer. Anti-war his entire parliamentary career. Check his voting record here:
http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=Jeremy_Corbyn&mpc=Islington_North&house=commons
I think he might set up a new party soon.
Clark
Corbyn respects democracy. He said he was two-thirds pro EU, but the people voted for Brexit, so he three-line whipped his party for Brexit, and thus triggered the start of the process. Starmer and co. led the faction that sabotaged all subsequent negotiations, stalemating the process for what seemed like forever.
So expect a massive propaganda campaign against Corbyn if he starts a new party.
michael norton
@ Clark,
If the Elite of the Western nations really believe that The Climate Crisis is existential, one must then question their new commitments to increase Defence spending from around two per cent to around five per cent?
None of these choices are put before their electorates.
I question is the most momentous of choices is not put before the people of the Western World, in what way is Democracy alive and working ?michael norton
As the World crashes into Recession, even the Elite of the E.U. now come to understand the Green Agenda is not economically sustainable.
From 11 mins in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnKvCMI1cj8People are getting poorer.
Small farmers and small businesses are going bust because of the regulations.
Big Corporations are lapping up the small businesses.Clark
Michael:
– “If the Elite of the Western nations really believe that The Climate Crisis is existential, one must then question their new commitments to increase Defence spending from around two per cent to around five per cent?”
I don’t quite get the connection you’re suggesting between these two issues in the minds of the powerful; please expound.
The elite are not a unified group. In fact they’re the most competitive people on the planet, though a lot of them seem to go to the same conferences, as well as attending each other’s weddings and parties. But their wealth and hence their power derive from different sectors, so their objectives are not unified.
A lot of the very rich have been buying bunkers and retreats. Even just down the road from my place, in the “stockbroker belt” around Fryerning, they’ve set up what amounts to a private police force, the same security company handling dozens of properties and patrolling the entire area in big 4x4s with “ENFORCEMENT” emblazoned across them. And a friend of mine in the building trade tells me the new luxury property development there has a luxury bunker beneath it, which he visited when delivering building materials. This is also a gated development. Several of those have sprung up around here in the last decade.
Also there’s loads of bunker and retreat building in New Zealand which, along with Britain, climate models predict to be among the places best cushioned against the extremes of climate change.
I think the push for militarism is because it’s the most corrupt industrial sector by far and it’s paid for out of public taxation, so it’s a great way of syphoning money out of the entire population and concentrating it into the hands of the rich. Also, having control of weapons and people to use them is a way for the mega rich to protect themselves as things get worse and worse, resources run short, weather gets more extreme, crops fail and unrest breaks out in society at large.
Clark
Michael, with my scientific and engineering mindset, I’m keen on calibration. So:
I started your linked video from its beginning. My first calibration warning came just 31 seconds in, with the host’s use of the term “climate extremism”. It’s difficult to be extreme about rapidly altering something as big and as unpredictable as climate.
I let that phrase pass, but just nine seconds later, he says “as Israel fights for its survival against Iran and its terror proxies…”. But it is a matter of record that Israel launched attacks the against Iran, under a false flag of truce no less, i.e. while negotiations were ongoing. It is Palestine and Lebanon whose survival is threatened, especially Gaza. Israel is backed by the military might of the United States, and has hundreds of its own nuclear weapons. The biggest threat to Israel is Netanyahu, who’s tearing it apart from within.
So before I proceed any further into this vid, I know it is heavily biased.
Such biases align with predictable regularity; those who oppose emissions reductions also support US/NATO/Israeli militarism, which is not really a surprise, as fighter jets, bombers, airborne refuelling tankers, tanks, armoured vehicles, personnel carriers and all warships smaller than an aircraft carrier are entirely dependent upon liquid fuels. None of these would be much cop if they ran on batteries, would they? And a lot of farm land would be needed to run them on biodiesel.
I’ll continue playing the vid now.
Clark
Another calibration warning just before two minutes:
– “…than Iran, a theocracy actively building a bomb”.
He again omits mention of Israel’s extensive nuclear arsenal. But also, the entire USA security establishment (CIA, NSA, Naval Intelligence, National Reconnaissance Office etc.) assures us that Iran isn’t trying to build nuclear weapons, and hasn’t been for over a couple of decades.
I suppose I should keep going, but it’ll be very slow if I have to keep posing these warnings about inversion of facts.
Clark
Another calibration warning just before two minutes:
– “…than Iran, a theocracy actively building a bomb.”
He again omits mention of Israel’s extensive nuclear arsenal. But also, the entire USA security establishment (CIA, NSA, Naval Intelligence, National Reconnaissance Office etc.) assures us that Iran isn’t trying to build nuclear weapons, and hasn’t been for over a couple of decades.
I suppose I should keep going, but it’ll be very slow if I have to keep posing these warnings about inversion of facts.
Clark
I’m at 10 min 28 sec, and all I’ve heard so far are lies and gross distortions of the truth, so I’m not expecting anything better about ecological measures. As for Israel being “less woke”, Israel makes a point of its liberalism towards sexual and gender minorities, a point it frequently uses to criticise Hamas.
Clark
Well I got to twenty minutes, and I really can’t force myself to listen to them propagandising amongst themselves for more military spending. Yeah, big corporations have gathered far too much power, but this trio aren’t going to stop it; quite the reverse. I didn’t learn anything about their practical criticisms of the EU’s ecological and climate policies, nor even if they have any. It’s all ideology and trigger phrases, crafted to influence not inform.
michael norton
@ Clark,
sorry I put you through all that.
Yes, I did pick up on most of the points, you have pinpointed, they “hooked me” because they seemed to suggest that the extremely stupid and unpopular ( ex-German minister of Defence)Ursula von der Leyen, was back-walking from the E.U. Green Agenda, as the economy of Europe is in the bog.
However other sources have suggested that the Right Wing of Europe want to push Ursula under a bus.michael norton
It seems that the Leaders of countries of Europe are all-in on war and on defeating Russia and of their populations supplying money to Ukraine, they are also all-in on the Green Agenda, they do not care at all for their own peasants.
Some of the elected members of the European Parliament, know that their peasants are suffering, they also know if they don’t move away from Net Zero, they most likely will not get reelected.
There is a schism in Europe, between on one side war Hawks who are also all in for Net Zero, on the other side, working people who fear unemployment and freezing to death, in a harsh winter.It is them and us.
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