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Donald Trump with his recent take-over of Venezuela, now the attempted coup in Iran, seems to want to control much of the world’s trade in Hydrocarbons.
Russia and Iran are big players in these fields.
It is getting rather dangerous and expensive for all of us.At Prime minister’s Questions, Starmer looked like a startled rabbit caught in the headlights of an impending disaster.
He refuses to say if they will allow the opening up of any more natural gas fields or Oil fields in our area.
He may still be the prime minister but he does not seem to be in charge.
It looks like Ed Milliband is in charge of the HMS Titanic.Energy collapse, supply chains WRECKED, running out of Diesel, running out of fertiliser, running out of food.
We are in for a hell of a ride.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FppaceflidA
A very frightening view from the Duran with Stanislav Krapivnik.
” Starmer looked like a startled rabbit caught in the headlights of an impending disaster.”
I don’t believe it’s as simple as the PM just saying “make it so.” The jackdaw gas field mentioned by Badenoch is entirely owned by a subsidiary of Shell, BG Group plc. I guess they have the final say as to whether they will foot the investment bill to start extracting. It takes 5-10 years to get to the extracting of gas.
Also, there is legislation, loads of it:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/oil-and-gas-offshore-environmental-legislationThat legislation was passed by Parliament and the PM has to comply with it just as one would expect or would you have the PM act trumpian and ignore parliament passed legislation? If he or the government were to do so I expect there would be legal redress in the courts. Do you want a parliamentary system or do you want Donald?
For interest here is a report from McKinsey & co related to North Sea fossil fuels detailing the rising costs of extraction etc etc
https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/mckinsey/industries/chemicals/our%20insights/from%20late%20life%20operations%20to%20decommissioning/meeting_the_challenge_of_increasing_north_sea_costs.pdfSoundbite politics Daily Heil style. Ed Milliband is running the government.
Ed is doing what the legislation, passed by parliament, mandates him to do. I guess PM could replace him but the new energy minister would equally be bound by legislation. Government could introduce new legislation but I expect that would be slow in coming.Better idea, put the money in renewables instead and invest in a better grid.
So much of the oil fields in British and whats left of the Scottish territorial waters are controlled by Ithika the company is UK registered but a subsiduary of Israeli controlled group. We all know about the throwing away of national oil reserves in our waters, whilst strangely the British State and then privatised BP still owed Iran all the money gained from extracting and selling Iran’s oil since 1911…. and spending decades agreeing to pay it back whilst instigating a coup against the country and then still not paying the debt owed to Iran during the following decades of sanctions.
I would rather run out of oil than see another drop of the black stuff benefit the Zionists at our domestic self destruction and the deaths of countless more people they target and facilitate their project to annailate everybody. They have replicated this model in other countries, they arm Rwandans to try to control Eastern DRC for mineral resources. erc etc (although America and British State vankrole, provide mercenaries intelligence etc. all over African nations)
The biggest energy company in Zionist hands bought the second largest oil refinery in Europe, with specifics for maritime fuel, in Sicily after it was put up for sale by Lukoil due to the sanctions imposed on Russian companies from 2022 onwards.
The Italian Govt intended to renationalise the refinery from then on and repurpose it towards mixed fuel, then decarbonisation energy plant but the Americans leaned on them and “ecco la” Israeli control.The media never goes into who owns what and why… to actually give the public the bigger picture.
The Leviathan Gas fields off Gaza and the West Bank and North Eastern Coast of Egypt would create social wealth for Palestinians and Egyptians, Russian company Gazprom offered the technical capabilities to get the Leviathan fields into operation. But we then booted off. Then the Nordsteam 2 sabotage and Israeli destruction of Gaza,The hostile infrastructure building up in Ukraine for years and the most recent confiscation of Venezuela’s oil all contribute to the hegemony of the Greater Israel / American hegemony Uber Alles. Eiropean leaders complicit in the self destruction of Europe before it gets to bombing the citizens. Or drones in our streets.
It is up to judges to allow the likes of Rosebank or Clare field get the laughable environmental green light. But the revenue will flow to thise who wish us harm when they are finished their world domination project.
If people realised that the mainstream narrative is hiding reality maybe they would ask the right questions, demand answers and a different future, but stemming some of the bleeding.Things are collapsing quickly in the United Kingdom.
That Labour Prime minister weasel Starmer is going to try to lift the Labour Mayor of London up to the Lords.
Talk is, he will have the London Mayor in his re-formed cabinet.
Fuel prices are going through the roof.
Unemployment is galloping towards a cliff.
Well done The Labour Party.
You ruined the U.K. Economy in twenty months.Oh Dear, things could get even more troublesome for the Labour Government.
A short while ago the Prime minister’s top aid left his employ, Morgan McSweeney.
Then it has transpired his government phone got stolen.
Morgan reported the theft to the police but for some reason he told them it got stolen in a different part of London.
After members of parliament, not quite believing that, that phone had been stolen, the MET are stepping up action.We, meaning the U.K. and the E.U. are only a few months from economic collapse.
The reality of an industrial civilization is as always reality, meaning fresh water, food, shelter, heat and power.
Probably our shelters will remain, unless we are drawn in to a world war.
In the modern world most agriculture is aided by chemical fertilizers, most made from Natural Gas.
Most electricity is now made from Natural Gas, since our virtue signalling stopped the mass use of Coal for Electricity production. The pillars of our existence are being discarded, mainly because of the false notion of Global Warming.
The stupid university brainwashed idiots who rule us, have ruined almost everything with their mindless virtue signalling.We had a fuel crisis in the 1970’s which caused a lot of economic decline but in those days, we used Coal. In those days our gas came from Coal.
So, we were saved from collapse by Coal.
Ed Milliband has banned Coal.
Their first act was to blow up a Coal fired power station.
They are Idealogs, fanatics.
You can not run a country on fanaticismIsland in the Sun
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“AI data centres can warm surrounding areas by up to 9.1°C
Hundreds of millions of people live close enough to data centres used to power AI to feel warmer average temperatures in their local area”
New Scientist.Heat Islands can distort temperature recordings.
Biggest is probably the Heathrow anomaly.“Heat Islands can distort temperature recordings.”
Distort? Interesting choice of word.
Distort: “to change the shape of something so that it looks strange or unnatural”
So, what you imply is temperature readings are distorted near data centres. Do you mean that the temperatures are unaffected by the heat out put from these data centres and the measurements don’t reflect reality or do you mean that such “heat island” areas distort the overall temperature picture across the whole planet surface?
Or are you concerned about the impact that such data centres are having on local areas near to them by how they are distorting what would be the normal climate patterns if the data centre wasn’t there?AI answer (yes I contributed to the heat generation).
Summary of Data CollectionLand Weather Stations: These provide precise air temperature readings from over 32,000 locations worldwide.
Ships and Buoys: These collect sea surface temperatures, contributing significantly to the overall dataset.
Satellites: They offer additional temperature data, enhancing the accuracy of global temperature measurements.
These data centres require electricity to work and the resistance of all the wiring of silicon chips produces (most of) the heat. Are you concerned about the heat generation of these data centres Michael?
In order to produce the electricity required to power the data centres power plants had to generate that electricity in the first place using fossil fuels. Approx 1/3 of the energy released by burning fossil fuels at power plants gets converted to electricity. The other 2/3 is dissipated as heat.
In order to power the data centres world wide (and indeed any electrically powered system from fossil fuel generated electricity) the power plants release twice as much heat energy as the data centre that uses the electricity generated.
So, in actuallity the data centre represents 1/3 of the heat output of the total in the process of making it work. The power generation plant releases the other 2/3’s.
Are you twice as concerned about the heat generation of power plants and their effects on the local environment?Michael, step back from your prejudices and bias. Remove your economic argument for now and chase down the facts that are incontrovertible and incontestable. You will have to grapple with some physics but it isn’t that hard to grasp. Thermodynamics, energy etc. I am confident you have the capacity to work it out on your own. Don’t come back at me with “what about the jobs” and “mad milleband” and and and
Stick to physics. Can you do that? Can you demonstrate that you can discern fact from opinion?Well ET you have me banged to rights, although a moderately intelligent person, I have little knowledge of science.
I strongly imagine that we, meaning 90 percent plus of the population of the world have been and are being tricked.
People in the pay of governments have been trying the frighten ordinary people for a long time, one scam after another scam.
I think computerisation and everything electric is aimed at control.
Ban Coal, ban logs because that gives people a level of immunity in their homes.
Make petrol or diesel, so expensive that people will turn to battery cars.
Then you have them by the balls.
In the blink of an eye, they will attempt to control everything you do.
They are doing their best to infantilise society.
“only the government and their advisers know all the truth, leave it to them to know what is best”
I have spent my life making my own choices, I generally despise councils and governments, they are liars and cheats and out for their own best interests and out to control our behaviours.
They, almost always, are not to be trusted.
I certainly do not believe one word Ed. Milliband says about Global Warming .Actually, they barely mention Global Warming any more.
They seemed to have moved on, it is just about electrification and total control.SNP
John Swinney has said things are shifting on opening up new Oil and Gas Fields in the North Sea, energy security has become much more important to Scotland and the U.K.I had wondered if the change in thinking of John Swinney was partially to do with the elections in May?
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“John Swinney makes embarrassing u-turn on oil and gas in desperate bid to win over Aberdeen voters”
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/john-swinney-makes-embarrassing-u-36961613
“The issue of oil and gas will be a pivotal one in the upcoming election with a majority of Scots in favour of continuing to produce our own energy through drilling. It is a big issue in Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire where many seats are on a knife-edge, and Stephen Flynn is hoping to be elected.”
Nicola Sturgeon was against new drilling in the North Sea.
She probably still is but Nicola is not standing again for Holyrood.John Swinney calls on PM to recall House of Commons to deal with UK energy crisis.
Starmer seems to have gone missing in action?Quote
“Scotland’s First Minister John Swinney said Sir Keir Starmer was sleepwalking into an unprecedented energy crisis.”Cragganmore Giant Natural Gas Field, near Shetland
Discovery & Appraisal: Discovered by well 208/17-3 in 2012. Two of three wells confirmed gas presence, while one encountered water.
Possibly the largest gas field in North West Europe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNAoNZKj-2M&t=951sMaybe Scotland / U.K. could be self reliant in Natural Gas for quite a few more years if only we would forget about Global Warming and grab the opportunities that are on our doorsteps?
Natural Gas , worldwide, is the main fuel that powers Electricity production.All the fields have been licensed to third parties, about 60% to incumbent oil/Gas companies and about 40% to private venture capital outfits and other state investors. The deal is they own any oil/gas in the areas licensed. The UK does not own any of it. They have to pay a share of the profits (I think 22%) to UK government.
Any oil or gas extracted is subject to market pricing and will go to the highest bidder not necessarily directly to UK. The UK government has no means to force the licensees to sell what is extracted to UK unless they do what Iran did and nationalise the fields. See what happened to Iran and Venezuela. You know the UK will not do that.
The current crisis is leaving the world short of approx 20% of the oil/gas inputs to refineries etc. North sea oil and gas will make not a jot of difference to that.
The only reliable source of independent energy are renewables. They cannot block out the sun nor stop the wind blowing. Solar panels on every roof would give house owners, businesses and government independence from geopolitical crises and an ongoing clean source of energy. USA doesn’t want that because they want energy dominance in order to control everyone. Big fossil fuel doesn’t want that because all the investment they have made into refineries, oil and gas rigs etc will become obsolete. They are spending obscene amounts of money to try get you and me to mistrust and denigrate clean, ongoing, sustainable sources of energy they cannot both make profit from and cannot enforce control of. They can take out a refinery or pipe but they cannot destroy every roof in a country.
Invest the money in solar panels, wind turbines and the grid and storage to manage and distribute it. The world has done it for the fossil fuel network and it can do it for electricity generation and distribution. Prior to oil we have whale oil and a huge fleet of whaler ships. Fossil fuels are going to go the same way. Dead in the water.
If you want energy independence for the UK (and any other country) renewables are the only way.ET
it looks like reality is creeping out from behind the thick curtains of Net Zero Madness
Rachel Reeves is now all for opening up the North Sea to more exploration and exploitation.
Ed Milliband and his brother need investigating over how much they are making from this net zero nonsense.If we are still to use Coal for making Virgin Steel, why not use British Coal?
If we are to use Natural Gas for making Electricity, heating and cooking and making fertiliser, why not drill and extract our own Methane?
If we are to use Diesel in Transport, for back-up generators at Nuclear Power Plants, Diesel for Agriculture, Diesel for Construction, Kerosene for heating and Aviation why not extract our own Liquid Fuel?The modern world uses quite a lot of plastics, that mostly comes from Hydrocarbons.
If Copper is to be extracted and processed for use in Wind Turbines and Battery vehicles, how will that happen, without Hydrocarbons?About 50% of U.K. food comes into shore on boats, these boats burn Liquid Fuel.
If The Labour Party Net Zero people had their way, this would stop .
We would then be short of 50% of our food.
Most fertilisers are made from Methane, stop that and you would be back to using shit on the fields.
All the plastic that is used in the NHS, if you stopped using Hydrocarbons, to manufacture those medical needs, what would be the alternative?
The days of Zealotry should be over, we no longer live in Medieval times.At the present moment geopolitics seems to be running an experiment.
Can the world cope without a cheap regular supply of Coal/Oil/Natural Gas.
The Russian/Ukraine War has been going on for four years, not much Natural Gas now reaches Europe.
The Israel/America/Iran War has been going on half a year.
In the next few months, we in the United Kingdom will find out if Net Zero is cutting the mustard.Mr Norton, I haven’t read further than seeing that you’d replied, because I feel you don’t listen to me. Maybe you’ll listen to City trader Gary Stevenson (on YouTube):
– “A massive energy crisis is coming from Iran and the Gulf. What can the government do to protect us? Can you do anything to protect yourself? Gary unpacks the economic consequences of the war.”
17:25 Drilling in the North Sea
19:24 How to trade in this crisis
Hello Clark, nice to hear from you again.
Today the Israeli armed forces have tried to destroy a huge Iranian fuel facility.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5yw4g3z7qgt
Asaluyeh
quote BBC
“Israel says it has hit a major Iranian petrochemical site, which it claims produces half of Iran’s petrochemical output”As I have just said, we will not have long to go to find out in the U.K.
if Net Zero cuts the mustard.Net Zero doesn’t mean no processes that generate CO2 it refers to a state where the amount of greenhouse gases emitted by human activities is balanced by the amount removed from the atmosphere, effectively resulting in no net increase in these gases. You know this Michael and it has been pointed out to you multiple times in this and other threads. Yet you continue try to propogandise the same crap time and again.
If you want this thread to be a monologue by you carry on doing what you are doing.
If you want engagement then you need to address the counter arguments presented to you.
It takes time to reply to your posts. People have given their time crafting replies in the hope that you at least give genuine consideration to the arguments. You have steadfastly refused to do so over the last few years. If you want genuine discourse then you need to show that you have given considered thought to arguments presented to you. That you do not do so shows the contempt you hold for people giving their time to reply to you.
You would do well to not rely on The Daily Mail or the BBC for the basis for your thoughts.Hello ET,
Net Zero, I expect different people interpret this notion slightly differently, as I imagine Ed Milliband does.
From what I can glean from Ed Milliband, he mostly uses this notion as how he understands Electricity is produced or will be produced in the United Kingdom or Britain?
I could be wrong, as I have never spoken with Ed Milliband.
However, Ed’s line has been that he want 95% of U.K. or British Electricity produced by what he calls Carbon Neutral methods by the year 2030.
by water power, by wind power, by photovoltaics, by nuclear, by burning wood pellets.
I am not clear but I do not think this scheme currently includes Northern Ireland?I understand that making electricity by nuclear power, as it happens, does not release any/much Carbon dioxide but I assume that the getting of Uranium and the processing of that element into a suitable fuel does give of Carbon dioxide.
I am also assuming that the cutting down of North American forests and the turning of that tree wood into pellets gives off a lot of Carbon dioxide, further the transporting of those pellets across the Atlantic Ocean, gives of more Carbon dioxide, as those boats burn liquid fuels.
The wind turbines probably give off, next to no Carbon dioxide in their spinning and the conversion of wind into electricity, however the mining of Copper, takes a huge amount of energy to blast, move and grind and float, and heat and process into the Copper windings, yes I know that Copper is very reusable, once it is removed from worn out motors and so on.
The wind turbine blades are mostly left in fields or under rubbish tips at the end of their working life.
As for solar farms, in the U.K. these have a working life of fifteen years, yes I know this could be extended, partially it is a planning thing, after they are removed the land can revert to agriculture.
Mostly, when their time is done, only the Aluminum alloy parts are recycled, the rest crushed and to land fill, this might change, soon but any reprocessing should be economic?
We, perhaps, should also mention the Limestone, that has to be ripped out the ground and turned into concrete, this gives off quite a lot of Carbon dioxide.As for the idea of Carbon Neutral, are we talking about a process in one factory/unit are we talking about the whole of life, over the whole world.
I do not think we will experience runnaway global heating, I could be wrong.
