Until a year or so ago I had a neighbour who hailed from South Africa. He thought he was the neighbourhood knowall, but in fact was the neighbourhood busybody. He talked incessantly to everybody, and then relayed his discoveries about their private business to anyone who would listen. We wondered whether back home he had been a BOSS spy, and took good care not to let him know anythong about us we didn't want him to. No doubt he's already an eager recruit to Wacky Jacqui's 60,000 and is busily policing the Devon village where he now lives.

What's so sad about all this is that even during WW2, when everyone was aware of the need for responsible discretion, government spying was held in contempt. Mass Observation - a worthy early exercise in sociological fact-gathering - was scathingly dubbed "Cooper's Snoopers" after the then Minister of Information.

I am appalled by the incessant official appeals on the radio to snitch on one's neighbours, and the menacing government messages announcing that "if you are a benefit fraudster we are closing in on you. You will not escape us."

I dislike benefit fraud as much as anybody, but this type of bullying Big Brotherism isn't the Britain I want to live in.

Of course, it couldn't possibly be the case that the whole point is to create a state apparatus that can throttle public dissent?

As people feel the impact of the 'Global Economic Crisis' on their personal lives; as people realise the economic and social cost of proxy wars; as people rebel against a 'democracy' where politicians jump through hoops at the behest of those who fund their political campaigns - a Sasi-like network of informers will prove very useful.

People have short memories, too many have forgot the shadow of the IRA over every day life.

Craig,

You're scaring me. Kettles are more dangerous than terrorism? That does it. No more tea for me. On another note, I was thinking of solving everything by moving to Sweeden, because I'm told that, for some reason, they don't have so much trouble with terrorism. Is that because their kettles are safer? Help me with this. I know that their Volvos are very safe. Maybe they design for safety in general. Sorry. I'm easily confused.

--Stephen

A Swedish blogger says that there are now spasmodic "communal disturbances" in some Swedish towns. These don't get reported in the UK media

Is the government using powerful, coercive means to directly control UK society through its 60,000 informants?
It very much looks like it. There's a very strong resemblance to what happened in Nazi Germany where an army, estimated to be of about 100,000, spies and informants operated throughout the country, reporting to Nazi officials the activities of any critics or dissenters.
To disguise the similarity all the government needs now is to arrange a few bombs to go off so we're all living in fear of 'terrorists' rather than our own government.

While I don't entirely disagree with you, Ruth, I believe it's far more likely that the majority in government and official circles are genuinely scared and believe in their own scenario. While it may well be that some rogue elements are planning another 'inside job' like 9/11 almost certainly was and 7/7 may well have been in order to ratchet up the public fear and pave the way for more authoritarian control, my assessment is that most of the politicians in and out of government are merely 'useful idiots' in the affair.

All this stems from the mendacity and spin of the Blair/Alastair Campbell era, when for years we were all fed shameless lies for New Labour's party advantage. This ghastly government bears the chief responsibility for debauching our political life. It's not going to be easy to recover credibility and integrity, and I salute Craig and the few [so far] others who are putting themselves on the line to do so.

I spent 10 years living in London during which time I missed the Kings Cross fire by 5 minutes and was close by to several IRA bombs when they exploded. I never felt in any danger and never witnessed anyone else panic. I certainly didn't live in fear of terrorism. My local pub was frequented by republicans who would come round with a bucket every now and then for 'donations', I never felt threatened drinking in there, even though everyone knew I was English and was frequently joined by mates from the Paras and Ghurkas.

I was working on a building site close to the Bishopsgate bomb, the next day one of the more enterprising lads on our site bought a job lot of new hard hats from one of our suppliers and stood outside Liverpool street station selling them to bankers for £10 each, he made a fortune.

I am afraid that something is beng cooked up for the G20 that the government will use as an excuse to prevent any future demonstrations in the capital on the grounds that they are a terrorist target and it is too difficult for the police to 'protect' the public. I am not scared of asian men with beards, but I am scared of my own government.

This may be of interest:

http://antarena.blogspot.com/2009/03/is-this-happening-here.html

While obviously terrorism against the West has been hyped out of proportion since the 9-11 agenda was launched, unfortunately the potential for "dark actors playing games", as David Kelly called them, includes a "mass-casualty producing event" (as the Neocons call it). Mass killings and genocide have been executed on orders of the "financiers" still in power in Europe too.

Cheney: If Obama changes Bush's policies too much, 'mass-casualty attacks' are more likely to succeed. So now, as MJ explained:
"A shudder went down my spine when I heard that Obama was offering some kind of friendly rapprochement with Iran. Sounds like the cue for some terrorist outrage that can be pinned on Iran." so Obama gets the excuse to wage new wars, just as easily as when he got an excuse to drop Freeman who resists the suicidal Zionist agenda.
Colin Powell and Joe Biden (See his "Mark My Words") announced a new (false flag) attack on the West for this spring 2009.

Anybody good in numerology, the superstitious practice of cabalistic calculation used by the secret services to fix the dates for their terror attacks to align them with an occult "magic" belief system ? Signing their deeds with it is a way to promote their new age religion and submission of the credulous to their masonic "satanic" agenda and a coming cruel-father-figure "messiah" despot.

03-29-2009 is in March, assigned to their beloved war god Mars, 29 they reduce to 2+9=11, 2009 to 2+0+0+9=11, a key power number in their demented Cabala which is all about "power". They think repetition augments power, so in that date they have twice 9 and twice 11.

Of course the next wave of attacks will only be a precursor for more to come, as they plan the beginning of the economic recovery for 2010, warning that by then the nation states (and no doubt most citizens) will be robbed penniless, as announced in Athens by David René James de Rothschild.

The reality of the terrorist threat is vastly different from the fantasy of the terrorist threat, much like the reality of the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction had only the slightest connection with the real world.

It's important to understand that Iraq, and the methods used to manipulate and justify the invasion, were not some temporary aberration, they are the new normalcy, where our political leaders simply lie to us and know they can get away with it.

For every Western victim of terrorism, we kill hundreds in return. The ratio is simimlar to that of the Israeli Army in Gaza, typical of classic colonial warfare. But our killing, though vastly larger in scale than any terrorist attack, is silent slaughter, it is conjured away as if by some evil, though useful magic. It almost doesn't exist in our world.

The war on terror is really just an excuse, an excuse to send our armies to occupy foreign territory which has strategic and economic importance for us. The war is a massive lie, designed to cover up a terrible, bloody, truth; that we are going to fight to preserve our grossly disproportionate share, and consumption, of the world's resources, like tooth and nail.

I think we are entering a new era of totalitarianism, and traditional 'bourgeoise' liberties and democracy, are no longer a useful model for the West, the velvet glove is slowly coming off the iron fist.

What with the recent shootings in Northern Ireland, it's interesting to compare the attitudes of New Labour to Northern Irish terror and islamist terror.

When the shootings happened, ministers were quickly wheeled out to explain that there were only a very small number of violent people, that there was very little threat, and so on. Quite the opposite of all the high-profile news about islamists, much of which is not based on much.

I think this explodes the statement some commentators have made that New Labour are cowardly: they're not, they're scheming.

Apologies to all if you have already listened to this , but this is the HOC JCHR in action -- audio only --

Joint Committee on Human Rights Tuesday 3 February
Meeting started on Tuesday 3 February at 1.45pm
ended at 3.01pm
UN Convention against Torture: allegations of abuse and mistreatment involving UK agents in Pakistan
Witnesses
Ian Cobain, Senior Reporter, The Guardian, and Brad Adams, Director, and Ali Dayan Hasan, Senior Researcher, Asia Program, Human Rights Watch

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/VideoPlayer.aspx?meetingId=3352

As with the recent Whistleblowers Video, it gives a good idea of the proceedings .

dave

I agree James, to a large extent they haven't got a clue what is really going on and are therefore really afraid when actual acts of terrorism take place. I don't think Mandleson would have been going about unprotected if they really thought there was a serious threat. They are, after all, cowards. They think they are clever using the 'threat' of attacks so they can manipulate our pussy media. It's another outrage the amount of taxes they are wasting chasing the alledged 'threat' that they themselves stoke through their illegal wars. Argh! Glad I got that off my chest...

researcher -

Aren't there enough plausible reality-based threats to worry about without resorting fantastic speculation about the secret services timing their operations according to cabbalistic numerology?

You'll be telling us that Nancy Reagan is the secret head of the CIA next.

Frankly, I find this somewhat paranoid.

anticant -

Yes, researcher comes across as an absolute looney doesn't he/she?

Unfortunately once you study 9/11 and realise that the official story is provable rubbish, that this is the 9/11 conspiracy theory with by far the least credibility......and then you come across the history of false flag terrorism/the struggle between banks and elected governments for control of society/the history of Freemasonry etc....it is impossible for some justified paranoia not to set in.

Three towers came down at almost exactly free-fall speed on 9/11. The laws of physics say this cannot happen. There is a mountain of other evidence that supports the 'inside job' thesis.

9/11 and 7/7 are magic numbers as it happens.....

.....another wooo-wooo conspiracy fact out there is that in the film the Matrix, the deepest study of deception and parallel realities yet made, Kenau Reeves character shows his passport at some point.

His birthday on the passport is clearly shown as 11th September 2001.

Some coincidence.

anticant

I'll keep 911 out of this ! It did lead me to look at "false flag" operations. Check out Daniel Ganser and Operation Gladio , maybe ?

I should have said. The film was made in 1999.

There's always a grain of truth in paranoia, but we need to keep it in perspective. There's plenty to be paranoid about these days, though.

Most scary of all is the history of the CIA ever since it was established. I'm not anti-American - I have known many admirable Americans - but the USA's attitude and behaviour towards the rest of the world [not to mention their rose-tinted view of themselves] never ceases to amaze me.

A very interesting book in this regard is "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins.

For my views on America [which haven't changed since I wrote them in November 2007] see:

http://antarena.blogspot.com/2007/11/open-letter-to-yankee-doodle.html

This cabala/numerology stuff is quite unnecessary to an understanding of the nuts and bolts of false flag operations. It's almost annoying how often this stuff turns up, though. Here's a screen shot of that Matrix passport 'coincidence':
http://tinyurl.com/dlewqc

No doubt by now some here will have seen the savage beating Gordon has been receiving over at the Grauniad's CiF section? His manful upping of the ante in the WoT has proven to be the equivalent of sticking your head up out of the trench only to find said head on the receiving end of 700 well aimed bullets:
http://tinyurl.com/dhc3wp

Talk about a hostile reception. Couldn't resist piling on myself, though!

Here's a screenshot of the 9/11 passport (the link above doesn't work). It is an expiry date, not a birth date by the way (my mistake)

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewphoto/2360/Matrix___Neo_s_Passport_expired_on_9_11_2001/

You'll have to excuse my ignorance as I've never seen the film. But why does it refer to Neo's passport? Don't tell me his nick-name was Neo.

I'm grooving on all of this.

As for Kabbalistic numerology, well...

What with being a decades-long Time magazine reader there were any number of mad theories like this that I used to sneer at.

I sneered at the idea of USS Liberty as being sacrificed until I saw the BBC's Dead In The Water. (googlevideo)

I sneered at those who described Pearl Harbour as a set-up until I saw another BBC production Sacrifice At Pearl Harbour. (googlevideo again)

I sneered at the remote control of passenger jets until I learnt about Dov Zakheim (financial comptroller at the Pentagon when $2.3 trillion went missing; and signer of the famous PNAC 'New Pearl Harbour' declaration) and his System Planning Corporation's 'Command Transmitter System'. (google search)

I sneered at molten steel in the WTC collapse until I saw the footage of it cascading out of the building. (youtube)

I sneered at the McMartin childcare scandal being a satanist plot until I learned of 'E Gary Stickel' who proved that the stories told by the children were true.

And now? Now, I no longer sneer at anything.

Ok, I checked. His name was Neo, and his passport expired on 9/11.
Now you're making the hair stand up on the back of my neck. :)

umm, I think perhaps you were looking for mad Kabbalist sites and found this one by mistake

CRAIG

I assume you've already listened to my link --- above .

All the best

Not me, Craig, I'm having fun.

Does not the following quote from the "Strategy Document for Countering International Terrorism" reveal the mindset of the Home Secretary and her Ministerial Colleagues? In which they hold all dissent or restraint on their collective Will and cynical rectitude in contempt? Does not this Government comprise ".....those who, for whatever reason, reject the rights to which we are committed, scorn the institutions and values of our parliamentary democracy, dismiss the rule of law and promote intolerance...".
I don't think these people are panicking at all. I think their gut instincts to roll forward their juggernaut of subjection, their enforced and narrow vision of conformity, would seek to diminish - and control - us all. Our thoughts, our words, our actions have become vulnerable to scrutiny for non-compliance.
None of this is about tackling Terrorism. It never was.

May I just say that if the question was whether I believe in Kabbalism or not, the answer would be no. But it's the wrong question. The right question is, 'Do others believe in it?', to which the answer would be, 'Hell yes!'.

As for all that math - a fig for it. I've got no time for impossible riddles. But Kabbalism exists and people devote their lives to it. Whether it drives world affairs is dubious sure - but having found myself wrong on so many other bedrock certainties I now refuse to be so quick to dismiss.

Honestly, if we've been bullshitted about an event as world changing as Pearl Harbour, then the veracity of pretty much everything is up for grabs. Shibboleths, anyone?

Great link, frank verismo, incredible how unpopular the UK prime minister has made himself.
Congratulations to the Brits, their comments are sharp and witty.
I had no idea so many had woken up.
Let's hope they know he is just an executioner.

Would be great if someone could mention Craig's blog in the comments:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/22/gordon-brown-terrorism?showallcomments=true

Did you all see the Fox movie explaining 9-11 before it happened ?
http://killtown.911review.org/lonegunmen.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUKQz-xm0is

Which Whistleblowers Video, frog2 ?

An army of 60,000 informants; sounds like the WI to me.

I wonder if they do a line of panty-liners with swastikas for the waffen-WI elite force?

"An army of 60,000 informants; sounds like the WI to me."

The WI is not a good comparison - they have balls:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/780486.stm

"Nu-Labour are panic-stricken wimps, stampeded into unbelievable panic"

NO, They know exactly what they are doing, YOU obviously DONT Know anything.

If anyone would care to have a listen:

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.us/CTTM2009/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_282_A_Bird__A_Plane__Its_Spookerclerk__007_of_7-11__Mar232009.mp3

WISE UP!

This point about the false-flag nature of the terror atrocities around the world is a crucial one. If you believe the major attacks were carried out by Muslim extremists then you may sympathise to some degree with the hype about security and anti-terror measures, even though you may feel the threat is grossly over-ramped.

But if you see that we have been duped over the attacks and that they were carried out by major controlling interests in the world, then you fully understand the gravity of the threat and the ultimate danger to civilisation.

9/11 is the starting point. When the official story on that event is blown apart, then all that has followed from it also crumbles.

If you still believe Muslim extremists carried out the attacks, then I recommend David Ray Griffin's book 'Debunking 9/11 Debunking'. He cuts lucidly through the obfuscation.

I believe Aaron Russo's revelations of a conversation with Nicholas Rockefeller tell us precisely what happened and what to expect -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609

And the video, 'The Money Masters', tells pretty much who got us to this place and how they do it -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6076118677860424204

When I was young I believed in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. I grew out of that.

Next came religion and that was more difficult to see through, because it is all pervasive in society and to call into question religion is to go against everything that has been inculcated into our tiny cerebelli.

My scientific education empowered me to do just that and Darwin gave me my answer.

I have had a cynical attitude to all the conspiracy theories, alien abductions, black magic, Knights Templar, Holy Grail theories and unholy alliances.

However, Brown, in particular, has been so financially inept that what he has, and is still doing beggars belief. Is it the King's new clothes syndrome?

I could start with the disposal of a substantial tonnage of our gold reserves, having announced what he would do, at a price that made some people shed loads of money but impoverished us, the owners. My dug, who has no inkling as to Economics would never tell anyone, me include, where he planks his bones and how many he has of them. The untility value of stocks would plummet.

To fill in the utter unimaginably stupid litany of mad decisions this clown has done, until the the latest initiative of the establishment of a state Stasi would take more bandwith than I can afford.

So is it all a big hand guiding these events, the big hand of the anti Adam Smith?

Maybe, for conspiracies theories are easy to expound, fit evidence around to add substance, and tend to be self feeding. One begets another, bridges are made and all too soon a matrix "appears".

Forget anti-divine intervention, just follow the money.

Money = power = money.

So is there a conspiracy about?

Yes, but not remote control of planes flying into buildings, not steel melting (aviation fuel can incinerate metal and humans too---there was a family in Lockerbie which was vaporised due to the intensity of the aviation fuel dumped on their house), it is all about money.

Follow the money trail and if you can't ask yourself who stands to gain from the events.

If there is a group of particular people or organisations who appear again and again then we have an idea of who is at the centre.

They are not the spawn of Satan. They are just a bunch of filthy rich opportunistic internationalists capitalists who view The World as their personal fiefdom. They don't control the minutiae of The World Order any more than Hitler held the front keys to Dachau or Milosovic pulled the trigger at the side of every mass grave in Yugoslavia.

They make the language, that is all, the wolves see personal advancement of localised power or opportunity for self enrichment.

The sheep acquiesce.

It has always been so.

Read Subsosa blog concerning Muslims and just change a few words around to get another perspective on what I have written

http://subrosa-blonde.blogspot.com/2009/03/germans-view-of-islam.html

Just cut and paste into your browser

"I have had a cynical attitude to all the conspiracy theories, alien abductions, black magic, Knights Templar, Holy Grail theories and unholy alliances".

How they must chuckle when they see their cynical stunts lumped together with these other things.

"there was a family in Lockerbie which was vaporised due to the intensity of the aviation fuel"

But the plane wasn't.

"conspiracies theories are easy to expound, fit evidence around to add substance, and tend to be self feeding"

Precisely the same can be said about the official account of 9/11, itself a conspiracy theory of sorts.

Yes, parts of the plane also diappeared, ie vaporised.

Aluminium will ignite above 60 Celsius and given good oxygen supply, as in a furnace or fllin doon through the atmosphere alongside burning aviation fuel, will do so exothermically.

If you don't believe me just find out what German Pyrotechnic Powder is.

I had a few meeting with the BAA re making airbridges. The specification was that the inside on the corridor should not go above a certain temperature should there be a certain temperature on the outside layer.

Trouble was that a real fire with aviation fuel would melt and ignite the aluminium. Meaningless specification.

Ever seen a plane that caught fire on the ground?

A dump of aviation fuel even without aluminium would have caused a fire so hot that everything that was not inert would have been vaporised.

@ RESEARCHER

HoC Public Administration Committee Thursday 19 March

Meeting started on Thursday 19 March at 10am
ended at 11.49am
Leaks and whistleblowing in Whitehall
Witnesses
Katharine Gun, Dr Brian Jones and Derek Pasquill
Carne Ross

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/VideoPlayer.aspx?meetingId=3724

PS I forget who passed this on to me, could have been someone here .

Faux Cul:

Crashed planes almost always leave wreckage. They tend not to disappear into thin air, as happened with four consecutive planes on 911.

However, don't be too fixated on aluminium and kerosene. There's so much other evidence to marvel at. Ponder for instance the mysterious collapse of WTC7; the vast pools of molten steel that remained molten for weeks after the event; the anomalous device attached to the underside of UA 175, the second plane; Cheney's stand down order in respect of intercepting AA 77, as reported to the 911 Commission hearings; the 1200% above average Put Options, re AA and UA, purchased on Sept 10; the bizarre 'coincidence' that the US military was conducting an exercise in respect of precisely the same scenario of events at precisely the same time. I could go on. Believe me, aluminium and kerosene are just scratching the surface.

And while we're about it, remind yourself also of the evidence supporting the official account. Let's see: there was that passport found in the rubble (do you have any theories concerning burning kerosene and paper?). There was that holdall containing pilots' uniforms, flying manuals and a copy of the Koran. There was that other holdall containing wills, a letter, flying manuals and a copy of the Koran. And that's about it. Are you quite sure you don't believe in alien abductiond, black magic etc?

Maybe we the unemployed can help the government out by adding 'Terrorist' as part of our JobSeekers Agreement:

Tinker
Taylor
Soldier
Terrorist
...

Then when the government decides to make laws that don't thwart the employment of men, they can claim to have reduced terrorism by a significant margin.

Whilst I do not want to comment on Terrorist Scare No. 372 Bollocks - because I think it is a load of bollocks I will comment on the UK University Education system.

To be honest I was completely Inspired. My 18 year old daughter had already chosen which University she wanted to go to - but then got a letter from them saying she could no longer do all of the course that she had been offered.

Meanwhile - she gets what I personally consider to be a far better offer from a far better University.

So we spent the day there...

And 5 different presentations within a space of 3 hours - all of which were totally brilliant. We were showed round the campus - and we discovered the old beautiful town ourselves - and the off campus accommodation.

Now - it is completely do-able - and because we are both retired our income is such that she should get quite a reasonable grant and quite likely a bursary.

I said to her - well - if you don't want to accept such a brilliant offer - then I will go instead.

I might be an old fart - but I have already covered much of the subject matter.

Maybe I should go back and teach some of it instead.

I do appreciate that the main reason to go to University is to have fun - and stretch your mind in such a way that you don't realise what you really learnt until many years later.

Tony

Faux Cul: -

Quote"....aviation fuel can incinerate metal."

Rubbish!

Faux Cul: -

Quote"....aviation fuel can incinerate metal."

Absolute rubbish!

Quote"....aviation fuel can incinerate metal."

Quote "Rubbish"

Well aviation fuel is basically paraffin.

When I was a kid - I not only had to make up a coal fire in an old iron fireplace - and we also had a pair of blacksmith bellows. Feed a fuel such as coal with an intense concentrated stream of oxygen - then you can achieve incredibly high temperatures - ask a blacksmith

But I also had to do the decorating and burn off paint with a blow lamp - who's fuel was paraffin.

If you mix paraffin - with an extremely intense stream of oxygen - you will certainly be able to reach sufficient temperatures to melt some metals - if you try really hard.

But I guess your question is about 9/11.

The answer is that it was done like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNCRnlKfQXc

Tony

Good link, Tony. Thanks.

Nice story. Did you also catch the fact that the training was 3 hours - half the amount of time of a cycling proficiency test. That does sort of beg the question of whether the actual objective is just to recruit people for later use.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1163954/60-000-civilian-spies-hour-lesson-spot-terrorists.html

Also, the 3 hours thing may just be a piece of misdirection. You have to be careful about the 'bumbling government' stories, as they are extremely useful to those in power, who are quite happy for the Publick to labour under the misapprehension of an incompetent ruling party.

As for 9/11 people, they hijack common sense in exactly the same way other people hijacked planes. They then fly common sense into the twin towers of Absurdity and Repetition, to no effect other than to Bemuse and Bore their fellow earthlings.

Aluminium? What? This was steel. Anyone can melt aluminium. I've done it.

You can have all the kerosene you like (pair of bellows or no) and you won't turn steel to liquid. It's high pressure industrial furnaces, oxy/acetylene, or forget about it. But even they couldn't impart enough heat to keep the steel molten underground for months.

The ONLY thing that can pull that off is thermite.

Craig, Glad to note in your final paragraph that there IS a threat from terrorism. For a minute there I was thinking that perhaps we had never had any bombs in this country. I would love to see you make your case to the relatives of those who died on 7/7. You sound rather like Lord Halifax or Francis Partridge in 1938.

Aluminium

Yes you can

eddie,

Terrorism - any terrorism - is as appalling as the namw implies. But you follow John Reid in comparing the current terrorist threat to WW2. It is plainly completely diproportionate.

It's all absolute bollox...as is the shambolic idiotic War On turr,Inc...i believe 911,7/7,Glasgow Airport to be inside jobs and these events have given psychopathic incompetent buffons/dark actors and agencies licence to get away with any amount of horror they want...

Stasiland to the max now...i see in the "news" today that councils have employed RIPA powers over 10,000 times...these investigatory powers were meant to be applied for terrorism but have routinely been abused to enforce dog-fouling,littering etc..a snoopers charter indeed.

Jacqui Smith is a charlatan...3hours "training"-including coffee breaks for these bull$hit anti-Turr,Inc courses?...absolute gold-plated bollox but so characteristic of shambolic,opportunistic PR bollox NuLabour...

Apparently our public servants on these courses are taught(brainwashed) to be alert to "people wth cameras..people who stare a things -or look away quickly.." Well that's most of the population with mobile phones for a start...

What a load of absolute BOLLOX it all is...
Even the spooks know it but hey,empires are being built..career$ fa$hioned...Kerching!

21st century UK?
What a pathetic state of affairs.

@anticant - I agree entirely with the sentiment in your first comment on this post, and you sum it up very well. There is the same dichotomy over the television license fee - public service broadcasting needs to be supported, but suddenly the Licensing folks have started to believe that it is acceptable to use Orwellian advertising language such as "we know where you live" and "everyone is in our database". This is a difficult one for me, as whilst I am not a big fan of the Beeb, I often think the commercial/conglomerate alternative would be worse from a bias perspective.

@eddie - in the same way as you seem to want to magnify the threat of terrorism to fit your political beliefs, so it seems you think that all victims of the 7/7 atrocity should follow suit. You must therefore not know what to make of Rachel North and John Tulloch, both survivors, and both opposed to the oppressive legislation and the fear agenda that 7/7 has enabled.

In 2001, al-Qaida were based in Afghanistan. While they are still active there, core al-Qaida has shifted across the border into Pakistan. More than two-thirds of the plots threatening the UK are linked to Pakistan.
- Prime Minister Gordon Brown

Two-thirds of active bullshit in the UK originates from New Labour, First about Iraq, then Afghanistan, but has now shifted across the border to Pakistan.

The other main source of bullshit in the UK is the unaccountable and undemocratic British Secretive Services -
MI5 tracking '30 UK terror plots'
British Ministry of Propaganda and Light Entertainment
10 Nov 2006

Terrorism threat in UK 'growing'
British Ministry of Propaganda and Light Entertainment
09 Nov 2009

In only 2 years, the threat levels of bullshit eminating from New Labour's cloaca maximus have increased from 'Iraqi WMD' to 'Desparate to keep economics out of the news and win the next election'

Apolgies,
I didn't realise CM's comments don't accept html formatting.

Here are those two links again -

The other main source of bullshit in the UK is the unaccountable and undemocratic British Secretive Services -
MI5 tracking '30 UK terror plots'
British Ministry of Propaganda and Light Entertainment
10 Nov 2006
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6134516.stm

Terrorism threat in UK 'growing'
British Ministry of Propaganda and Light Entertainment
09 Nov 2009http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7718240.stm

all the best!

29 March 2009

"The home secretary, Jacqui Smith, apologised today for an expenses claim which included adult films watched by her husband Richard Timney."

"Smith said she mistakenly submitted an expenses claim which included five pay-per-view films, including two adult movies which were viewed at her family home in her Redditch constituency."...

http://tinyurl.com/cazhot

Some of the poweful schemers in the world may well believe in the Occult. I'm always openminded, but I would tend to believe it more than not. I think it's an ego and identity thing. They have to have some foundation to legitimise their ridiculous amount of power to themselves. 9/11 and 7/7 definitely were orchestrated. I think Blair knew about 7/7. I don't know if many more in our government did. It makes me sick really. You want conspiracy? Think about Robin Cook and John Smith. Rsearch the Bilderberg group and look at who attended their annual meetings and later rose to power. It's simply astonishing. It just can't be. Attend a meeting and become a national leader! That's democracy is it? LOL. The 60,000 civilian force is certainly dodgy. I'm just rambling a bit here. Anyhow, look in the media over the next year for increased talk of political, economic, social moves towards globalisation all over the world. That is on the agenda. Oh, and loads of them are paedophiles too. All the best to all of you.

at last some 1 said the probability for a terrorist homocide. iv been tring to tell people that your are more likily to die from a accident than a terrorist but they spout the goverment propaganda back at me without any other evidence...... but its easy to convince them to the truth when you tell them the real statistics..........