Disgusting War Criminals Squeal

by craig on September 13, 2011 4:52 pm in Uncategorized

The New Labour Torture and War Crimes Party is squealing at the boundary commission changes. I hate their rank hypocrisy. Anyone with the remotest interest in psephology knows that a combination of shire constituencies being historically larger, and recent drift from city centres, gives New Labour an advantage over the vicious Tories. I do not favour First Past the Post at all, but the electorate hates Nick Clegg so much that FPTP has become beloved of the people as the best defence against him. Fairly equal constituency sizes is a necessary feature for FPTP to have even a smidgeon of validity.

New Labour’s argument that they should have less electors per constituency because their geographical areas contain more illegal immigrants and persons too thick to register to vote, is hilarious. We are now to take into account in the democratic process those who do not bother to register, let alone vote? Actually most of those “ghost” people are a hypothetical posit by government statisticians, because they do not fill in the census either. You can surmise their existence in other ways. I posted about Stratford earlier. Did you know that in Stratford and in Tower Hamlets, either there are many people there who officially do not exist, or they produce over half as much more sewerage per person than anyone else? Anyway, I digress.

Anyone can register to vote. the “Transient population” argument does not wash because there is no longer a single annual registration – here in Thanet the register is updated once a month, for example. If you have chosen not to be a part of the political process – which should be a right not to be part – you do not count in it and you should not count in it. You cannot be psychically chalked up as a supporter of Harriet fucking Harman.

The advantage to New Labour over the Conservatives was about 5% at the 2010 election.

Here is how many votes it takes to elect one MP:

DUP Nasty Proddie Bigots 21,027
New Labour War Criminal and Torturer 33,858
Sinn Fein Ex-Murderers 34,388
Tory Vicious Sneering Bastards 34,979
SDLP Rather Nice People 36,990
Alliance Sickly Nice People 42,762
Plaid Cymru Ineffectual Quasi-Nationalists 55,131
SNP Hooray! 81,898
Lib Dem Lying Two Faced Traitor Clegg 119,934
Green Very Nice But Need To Eat More Meat 285,612

Not forgetting, with no MPs

UKIP Like BNP With O Levels infinity 919,471 votes
BNP Hitler Loving Scum infinity 564,321 votes
Ulster Conservatives Like DUP With O Levels infinity 102,361 votes
Respect Green Leotard Tendency infinity 33,251 votes

Can’t wait for details of the Scottish boundary proposals.

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61 Comments

  1. I think some kind of intelligence test or a random question about British politics should be incorporated into the electoral registration process and if you don’t make the mark then you don’t get the vote.

  2. When is Alex Salmond likely to hold the independence referendum?

  3. When he said he would – towards the end of the SNP’s term of office – so therefore 2014-2015.

  4. I wish he would hold it now. Last opinion poll showed 39% pro independence, and that will go up in the campaign. Who would lead the anti-campaign? I hear Gordon Brown, George Robertson, John Reid and Malcolm Rifkind are lined up. Walkover!

  5. Actually the MPs themselves are now almost wholly redundant. They could very well be replaced by a large collection of little plastic or cardboard tokens, like those in a Monopoly set. Their only significance is that each MP gives the leader of that MP’s party one more effective vote in the House of Commons. Why not get rid of the MPs altogether, and just give the party leaders X or Y virtual votes in Parliament? Think of the saving in salaries, pensions, and (not least) expenses. We could also turn the House of Commons into a museum, in which capacity it would serve some modestly useful purpose.

  6. Another advantage – and the main reason we shall never see this useful reform come to pass – is that it would remove a lot of obfuscation, letting us see clearly who wields the real power in our country. (Clue: not MPs or “Parliament”).

  7. ‘Can’t wait for details of the Scottish boundary proposals.’

    Ditto- however now that properly devolved parliaments sit in Belfast & Edinburgh, constituency sizes in both these countries should be increased to a larger size than pertains in England & Wales. In NI under the Stormont regime they only returned 12 MPs to Westminster- they should do so again, and Scotch representation in Westminster should be similarly reduced, to around 40-45 MPs.

    Sadly, as our PM is called Cameron, and is apparently a convinced Unionist, that ain’t gonna happen- and the Northern & Western Isles will still exist as distinct constituencies, despite their piddling human populations. What a joke !

  8. Why do not people who have non valid tax discs have their cars seized,

  9. I agree that it should be a walkover, Craig but I worry about the delay. What if, for example and God forbid, something should happen to the First Minister in the interim. Many a slip.

  10. Larry – quite agree and crushed. But wrong thread!

  11. “and crushed”…? Why, what possible benefit would that act of vandalism serve? On the other hand, perhaps homes should be demolished, should the owner neglect to pay council tax.

  12. “Lying Two Faced” “Harriet fucking Harman”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsYlBBUjwvM

  13. Glenn,

    it would reduce pollution and consumption of hydrocarbons. I have never owned a car. If you want to own one, have tax, MOT and insurance. Or have it crushed.

  14. Sorry, that should say I have never driven a car. My ex-wife used to have one, to be entirely accurate.

  15. John Edwards

    13 Sep, 2011 - 6:45 pm

    When I worked in local government in inner London in the Eighties the Electoral Registration department operated from a small portakabin in a car park somewhere round the back of the town hall. This reflected the low priority and resources given to registering electors. I have no doubt little will have changed for the better or that there is significant under registration in typical Labour held seats.

    Incidently it is “fewer electors per constituency” not “less”!

  16. Old Mark,

    Scotch is a drink, the people are Scottish.

    Just because some Parliamentary matters are devolved it does not follow that the Scots or Irish voters should have less representation on the other, more important reserved matters.
    Incidentaly, the Welsh also have devolution.

  17. I do realise that this blog is the habitat of many people with bi-polar and various mental health issues but the name calling, vituperation, smears and random abuse contained in both the blog and the subsequent comments makes you appear less credible by the day. Why can’t you stick to being a serious commentator?

  18. Old Mark,
    There are over 40,000 people living in the Northern isles and about 27,000 people in the Western Isles. Hardly piddling.
    It would be quicker, easier, and probably cheaper, to go to Paris from either than to go from one to the other.

  19. OK Eddie, so which mental health issue you suffer from, as you do not seem to be able to keep away from this site either!

  20. “Nice but need to eat more meat.”

    http://t.co/OlBChtd

    Won’t go down that road, only to say that all animals are sentient beings, have no voice in parliament (unless someone gives them one), and do not bomb and maim (apart from bloody seagulls).

  21. But Craig – someone who’s car is destroyed will only go and get another one. If their car was confiscated and sold at auction, fine – but destroying a car will not reduce consumption, it increases it. There is a resulting demand in the system for exactly the number of cars destroyed, with all the associated resources and pollution for making it and disposing of the old one.
    .
    I should note that anyone not paying insurance and tax has no business being on the road, and the fewer miles driven the better.
    .
    Eating meat is probably the most ecologically unsound (and unnecessary) preference one can personally make, as another note. I know your point was somewhat tongue-in-cheek about the Greens, but suggesting people eat more meat is not good advice.

  22. too true Glen, eat more crisps

  23. ‘There are over 40,000 people living in the Northern isles and about 27,000 people in the Western Isles.’

    Rob Royston- each of these barren, windswept island grouplets returns its own MP to Westminster, in addition to enjoying representation at the devolved Parliament in Edinburgh. Their remoteness, I grant you, probably does warrant a special travel allowance for the sitting member, should they be combined into one Westminster seat, as justice demands that they should.

    The Isle of Wight, being part of England, presently just sends a single MP to Westminster, despite having a population of 140,000- more than twice the combined population of the Northern & Western Isles.

  24. Tom Welsh,
    I agree with you. Parliament’s a complete waste of money. If we strip it out, I think we’ll find we’re left with the inner sanctums of the Privy Council dishing out the orders and corruption with Dave and Clegg acting as errand boys.

  25. One nationa in the world has over a thousand military bases -and – the UK planes second “bombing fiddle” to which nation…

    There is a lot more that needs to be said that we are only scratching on the surface on this blog…

    lowkey ft m1 (dead prez) & black the ripper – obama nation part 2

  26. Jonangus Mackay

    14 Sep, 2011 - 1:35 am

    As a life-long supporter of the Public Library/Lapsed NUJ Party (far as I know we only have one member), absolutely loved your helpful list of the other choices available to me. Hilarious. Thank you.

  27. You can do better than ‘vicious sneering bastards’ for the Tory murderers. Maybe that was all that was wrong with them in Maggie’s day but Cameron is as much of a cowardly mass-murdering shit as Bliar. The only thing he has over Bliar is that his speaking manner isn’t quite so revolting. Everyone in the higher levels of the party is complicit in his crimes.

  28. “someone who’s car is destroyed will only go and get another one”

    Yes – flog the car and cancel their licence.

  29. Paul Johnston

    14 Sep, 2011 - 8:29 am

    Off topic I know but any chance of making better quality pictures from
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/08/emperor-maharajah-singh/
    available for translation.
    Tried the e-mail I sent the Burnes pdf to but it failed.
    Ta Paul

  30. Glenn, you should explain why not eating meat is so important. Though I did find Peter Hain’s particular form of vegetarianism amusing (COOT 140). Regardless of whether you eat meat or not please get your MP to support Caroline Lucas’ EDM on not selling arms to dictatorships.

    http://t.co/OlBChtd

  31. It is insulting to describe fellow citizens who may very well have decided that voting is a farce under present circumstances as “thick”. Arguably the least enlightened ones are those who persist in “choosing” between substantially identical parties.

  32. “I hear Gordon Brown, George Robertson, John Reid and Malcolm Rifkind are lined up. Walkover!”
    .
    Without doubt the biggest asset of the Yes campaign will be the No campaign. I already have in mind an idea for a billboard. It will carry a montage of portraits of the people you mention and the caption: ‘Who says No? All the Yes Men!’

  33. Eddie! good fences make good neighbours. When people like Blair cross the boundaries of human decency, others get disconcerted, and start seeing double polar bears on the arctic wasteland where logic tells them no polar bears should be.
    Quelcrime, are you saying Bliar needs electrocution lessons? How now Brown cow, or sintax lessons, repeat 1,000 times Heil Me! or rhetoryc lessons.
    They are both equally revolting in their speech mannerisms owing to the fact that they are produced from the same gravy train factory.

  34. Good one, Vronsky. Print them up and stick them up yourself if necessary. Everything counts when it’s an important issue.

    I remember in 1999, taking a colour picture of a bus passenger who had his head blown open by a NATO bomber who didn’t even bother to check if there was any traffic approaching the bridge he destroyed, and put it on a poster with a picture of Robin Cook. The dead man’s picture was captioned “Foreign Secretary Robin Cook” and the Cook picture was captioned “Another Mindless Redhead”. There were a couple of others but that was the most effective one. I wonder if anyone noticed before the fuzz took them down.

  35. “They are both equally revolting in their speech mannerisms”
    .
    Have you noticed that Cameron has Blair’s (rather patronising) habit of beginning sentences with “Look…”

  36. Anno
    I would say to you that I mean Blair’s nervous teenager act replete with, y’know, verbal ticks.

  37. Sorry, tics. Thinking of vermin for some reason.

  38. Total crap presumably from the new editor of the Independent. I note the bombing of Libya is referred to as an ‘intervention’. It is only our ‘reputation’ that matters apparently.
    .
    […]Last week’s report on the unlawful killing of Baha Mousa, the Iraqi civilian whose death was first reported by Robert Fisk in this newspaper in 2004, was a reminder of how much the Iraq war tarnished Britain’s reputation abroad. So The Independent on Sunday’s cautious support for our limited military intervention in Libya – with explicit UN authority and Arab League endorsement – is a measure of how much David Cameron has been able to recover from the mistake of his predecessor.
    […]
    Mr Cameron, on the other hand, has shown some skill in finessing his party’s Euroscepticism and, by working with Nicolas Sarkozy in the Libya intervention, he has healed some of the diplomatic wounds of Iraq and learned those lessons. If he can extricate our forces from overstaying our mission in Afghanistan; if he can expunge the stain of British complicity in torture; and if he can make amends for British abuses of Iraqi civilians – then there is a hope that Britain, with a more realistic understanding of its capability, could regain some of the ethical role in the world that it lost after its mistaken response to 9/11
    .
    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-can-britain-regain-its-ethical-role-2352670.html

  39. Two more repellent characters. One from the sewer of the BBC and the other from the stench of the HoC.
    .
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150304129026305&set=a.426037731304.186024.144144931304&type=1&theater

  40. Have you heard the latest suggestions to attack our already dwindling incomes?
    .
    ‘Extending VAT to nearly all spending. The current system sees means consumers are not charged VAT on items such as food and children’s clothing’
    .
    The Mirrlees Review, by the Institute for Fiscal Studies, claimed that the UK tax system was inefficient and complex.
    .
    In a blueprint for long-term reform, it said an overhaul of the system would benefit the economy by tens of billions of pounds and create thousands of jobs.
    .
    Ideas included abolishing property stamp duty and expanding VAT
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14903028

  41. TFS, that isn’t so strange. There are the redacted pages of the 9/11 Commission report which concerned Saudi Arabia, which I think is on Daniel Ellsberg’s list of “most wanted leaks”. Here are some links you can check:
    .
    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/08/9-11-2011-201108?currentPage=1
    .
    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=17927

  42. Rainborough,

    Fair point I know. Treid to allow for it by including the point about not voting being a huma right.

    Eddie

    You haven’t got over your precious New Labour turning out to be a bunch of war criminals and torturers. Don’t suppose you ever will get over it. Does not being entirely serious all the time disqualify me from pointing it out? No.

  43. Craig, you’ll know the answer to this

    Isn’t there some international law that requires a country to protect the citizens of another country?

  44. Mary, please if you’re going to link to such offensive scum as those two tory boys, at least give a health warning in advance because I nearly puked over the computer when their smug mushes suddenly appeared and it’s nearly lunch time too.

  45. TFS,

    Broadly, no. There are specific exceptions – rescue at sea, how you behave towards civilians in wartime.

  46. This thuggish looking German brigadier has just been speaking to BBC News about the attacks in Kabul yesterday that went on for 20 hours! He was speaking in his capacity as an ISAF representative. I didn’t know that Germany were there.
    .
    http://www.isaf.nato.int/about-isaf/leadership/brigadier-general-carsten-jacobson.html

  47. Old Mark,
    There is more to be represented than the population numbers. It has to be based on area, services required, etc. The Isle of White is a mere spec on the map compared to either the Northern or Western Isles, it’s smaller than North Uist. It does seem from your figures to be thinly represented, but that is no argument for attacking the representation given to other, more scattered, islands.
    It might make sense to link the Western Isles to Skye, but it is a totally different case, being joined to the mainland by a bridge.

  48. Mary: Yes, Germany has indeed by in Afghanistan for some time. Here’s some of the fine work they’ve been doing:
    .
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/07/us-german-afghan-rift

  49. Voting is important. The suffragettes fought for women’s right to vote. Problem is … it has become a farce. No choice – Three right-wing evil parties. I was a Labour C Party Sec at one point – we passed a resolution demanding a second UN vote before any action in Iraq. They declared our meeting not quorate. By their reckoning, no meeting for 20 years previously would have been quorate. Changing the rules in order to win became their stock in trade.

    Harriet Harman voted for Iraq but, when wanted votes later, declared she hadn’t really been in favour. So, was she weak and ineffectual, stupid or duplicitous? Dunno. One of them.

    I see Jack Straw has signed the EDM about Palestine’s bid for statehood. That’s an easy choice now he’s out of power and does not have to put his money where his mouth was. He wouldn’t be openly supportive when in power.

    Do I trust him? After all this stuff about rendition, control orders, torture etc? No.

    Red Ed? He’s about as red as the sea.

    Even if you do have the education and time to make yourself informed – which is hard – there really is no choice on offer.

  50. Paul Johnston

    14 Sep, 2011 - 3:59 pm

  51. TFS & Clark

    Big thanks for your interest in the Saudi connection. There is much to disclose since Robin Cook told us throughout the 80s Bin Laden was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally “the database”, was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen including Bin Laden who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.
    .
    Robin predicted the ‘blow-back’ yet he secretly knew this blow-back would be coveted and engineered by Britain and America to promote terror initiated wars, the bread and butter of a lucrative arms trade; from the £2.6 billion/year street corner Al-Yamamah deal to the American weapons and F15’s contracts worth $100’s billions. Pacts that would buy the souls of Statesman, Senator and Royalty alike and snuff out any life force that dared to intervene or expose. For the Saudis it would be the owner of an entire Cotswolds hamlet called Glympton that would procure and finance the training of Saudi terrorist and work closely with military and civilian intelligence to pull off the ‘big one’ and convince a naive and gullible British and American public that Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran must be destroyed and conquered to prevent terrorists attacks on home soil.
    .
    And thus it came to pass on a cold November late morning, with a game cart laden with many a brace of pheasant, while beaters warmed their chilled bodies on home-made soup and pickers-up fed scraps to their Labs and Springers, pragmatic, Nicaraguan financier, RAF trained fighter pilot and Eton supporter, Prince Bandar and assassination plotter, CIA Head and Statesman George HW Bush congratulated each others score-card and shook hands on a deal that would change the political land-scape – forever.

  52. Lilian wrote: “Harriet Harman voted for Iraq but, when wanted votes later, declared she hadn’t really been in favour.”

    Anyone remember the Newsnight edition featuring candidates for the deputy leadership of the Labour Party? Hilary Benn gave detailed answers; Harman’s argument, if memory serves, was that if the leader was a man the deputy must (?should) be a woman.

  53. Mark
    The British public has never been convinced of the necessity to attack Afghanistan, Iraq or Iran. A very small segment of society that has connections to the military, has accepted the top-down system instead of making decisions for itself. The injuries and deaths that have followed have resulted in a desire for revenge, which is a completely different thing.

  54. Lilian, that is very useful inside info. about the workings of New Labour – confirms what many thought, I suspect. You’re right, they – the three mainstream parties – are all economically and politically, nationally and internationally, right-wing now and have been for some time. The leaders and Frontbenchers (and many of the mainstream media journalists with their irritatingly identikit facial expressions, head wobbles and hand movements) all seem like used-car salesmen – in fact, that is an insult to used-car salesmen. Bad actors. Bad politicians. Bad people. As you say, in a word, evil.

  55. Watching Tony Blair is like watching a song by The Carpenters (apologies to any Carpenters fans).

  56. “Actually the MPs themselves are now almost wholly redundant.” Tom Welsh.
    .
    In other words, managerialism has taken over.

  57. >Respect Green Leotard Tendency infinity 33,251 votes

    Ummm, George Galloway’s fetching Celebrity Big Brother leotard was a very subtle and alluring shade of postbox red. You’re not colour-blind by any chance?

  58. “Their remoteness, I grant you, probably does warrant a special travel allowance for the sitting member, should they be combined into one Westminster seat, as justice demands that they should.”

    Erm, No. Orkney and Shetland shouldn’t be lumped in with the Western Isles. Economically and geographically, the islands are similar, but culturally and politically, they are very different; the Western Isles speak Gaelic, vote SNP, and are prone to letting bizarre and dour Protestant sects tell them when the ferries are allowed to run. The Northern Isles used to speak a variant of Norse, are the least-unionist-inclined part of Scotland, and tend not to care much about religion one way or another. There’s not much in the way of travel between them either, because they’re both very far from each other, so there’s little-to-no mix of people. I’ve spent a great chunk of my life in Shetland, and I’ve only knowingly met one person from the Western Isles here. Saying they should be merged into one constituency is about as silly as saying that Morningside in Edinburgh should be joined with Kensington in London to form a new constituency. Possibly sillier: people move between Edinburgh and London all the time.

    If you’re going to widen the constituencies, both groups of islands would be better served by lumping them together with some of the nearer parts of the Scottish mainland.

  59. I think there is a lot of sense in merging Morningside and Kensington.

  60. What next? Merging Algeria and France? I wonder if Nick the Shark daydreams about it.

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