The Quest for Somali Oil

by craig on February 26, 2012 5:40 pm in Uncategorized

Just back from Accra and just about to set off for Berlin. I am very rude about the partiality of the Guardian’s focus on occasions, but they deserve congratulations for getting it spot-on with this article explaining Cameron and Hague’s sudden activism on Somalia.

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  1. Neil Saunders

    26 Feb, 2012 - 6:03 pm

    And another thing where is Werrity !!

  2. I think most of the worlds likely sources of oil were known by the 1930s, with considerable accuracy and oil in the ground still is as handy a place to store it meantime as anywhere else, is actually more conveniently left where it is, especially when prices were flagging. Like the natural gas rich areas of the Caspian area which while also having oil as well gas, it is in multiple small dispersed discontiguous locations, rather than one large pool which can be tapped fully from one or two spots; in that region it simply isn’t economical to keep moving on to another spot –yet. There are nevertheless no super deposits anywhere like Saudi Arabia was, or Iraq or Iran. These Somalian deposits while exciting and I hope a boost for all strata of Somali people, might simply end up propelling the war machine towards the remaining mother-lode in Iran. Oil like that light sweet Iranian crude, clean and volatile even when unrefined, is rare, contaminants like sulphur might abound in other locations. Without significant on site water separation and settlement facilities too, particularly as fields age and water injection and scouring techniques become necessary, these smaller deposits might become an economic and security liability in the short term.

  3. Well, wouldn’t you know it.

    I thought it was too good too be true that Cameron and what’s his name were actually interested in the fate of the Somalis.

  4. Karen Greenberg who writes in the Guardian seems to know the truth..
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    – TOP SECRET – al-Shabaab commanders trained in Afghanistan and Djibouti have Anglo-Yankee backing and are paid from a ‘black fund’ held at the CIA headquarters in Mogadishu.
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    Just another Libyan ‘falseflag’ for resources and of course a base from which to operate.

  5. From the linked article:
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    “Riven by two decades of conflict that have seen the emergence of a dangerous Islamic insurgency…”
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    OK, so who’s sponsoring this? Our allies, the usual suspects? So handy to have a little conflict to go and get involved in. But maybe I’m just getting paranoid.
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    “and comes at a time when the world is increasingly concerned about the actions of Iran…”
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    Er, what has Iran actually done? They’ve responded to various threats and embargoes, but I don’t remember them actually having started any new trouble, no matter all the recent wailing and gnashing of teeth in the media.

  6. Pathological liars like Cameron are so predictable.
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    As I was saying just yesterday ….
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    http://www.smeggys.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21266
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    :) :) :)

  7. I mentioned that little throwaway earlier Clark on the previous post.

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    Mary
    26 Feb, 2012 – 7:41 am
    We have discussed Somalia here before. As someone said, it’s always about OIL.
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    ‘The Observer can reveal that, away from the public focus of last week’s summit, talks are going on between British officials and Somali counterparts over exploiting oil reserves that have been explored in the arid north-eastern region of the country. Abdulkadir Abdi Hashi, minister for international cooperation in Puntland, north-east Somalia – where the first oil is expected to be extracted next month – said: “We have spoken to a number of UK officials, some have offered to help us with the future management of oil revenues. They will help us build our capacity to maximise future earnings from the oil industry.”
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    British involvement in the future Somali oil industry would be a boon for the UK economy and comes at a time when the world is increasingly concerned about the actions of Iran, the second-biggest oil producer in Opec.’
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    Britain leads dash to explore for oil in war-torn Somalia
    Government offers humanitarian aid and security assistance in the hope of a stake in country’s future energy industry
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/25/britain-oil-dash-somalia
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    Note the little throwaway phrase on Iran. That’s right Guardian. Keep up the pressure and keep the propaganda flowing.
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  8. O/T There has been a tragedy off the Ramsgate coast today.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17170371
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    What happens to these offshore wind farms when something similar occurs when a cargo vessel or the like is adrift? Hope no Costa cruise ships come close!
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    Red Sands Tower has an interesting history {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunsell_Forts}

  9. deepgreenpuddock

    26 Feb, 2012 - 8:12 pm

    I watched a BBC program about ‘fusion power’ yesterday, with Brian Cox reviewing the attempts to control the process. I am sure it still on iplayer. However one little interlude where he tries clay pigeon shooting, has an American physicist explain why oil is so ‘good’=useful. At another point in the program they look at the alternatives to oil and the outcome of the assessment is that the future energy situation is indeed dire, if some technical breakthrough such as Fusion does not become available reasonably soon.

    Now I am sure many who follow this blog will be well aware of the world energy situation but what I thought was interesting about the program was that, without actually saying so, it made it perfectly clear that oil and gas must be the central strategic commodity and crucial to the future survival of the western countries in a condition anything like what we have come to recognise as normal.

    The program laid bare-inadvertently- the desperation (and likely ruthlessness) that exists relating to mineral energy reserves. There should be no doubt within anyones mind that our government is fully committed and competing for advantage in relation to reserves of mineral energy , and that the oil companies are one of the main strategic arms of government . There should be no doubt that lives, morality, ethics are secondary or even tertiary level considerations in this competition and that to all intents and purposes there is no choice but to compete in this race, to the exclusion of all else.

  10. @Deepgreenpuddock, I think you’re correct, but bear in mind at present increasing consumption rates despite the worldwide downturn, even Iranian oil fully exploited will feed just another 4 or 5 years of this madness, then things will indeed turn nastier still than millions of dead, beautiful, blameless innocent Iranians is to contemplate. As has always been the case, the best economic return for the oil bearing nations, if they’re aren’t completely hoodwinked and robbed in the negotiations, is the slowest possible recovery and extraction, which ultimately relinquishes far greater life of fields and maximum yields, without which conservation strategy many now defunct North Sea fields for example would still have 50-100 years of modest and still highly profitable returns. The oil business now and has never respected any golden goose entrusted to their far from tender care, more Dr. Shipman than Flo Nightingale – recall the precipitous US domestic production collapse – preferring rapacity and the quick buck, jam today for a few and thin gruel for all tomorrow.

    Let’s have Renewables on a huge scale, the sooner the better and no more resource wars or nuclear horror plants. Evolve or extinguish ourselves, seems an easy choice in those terms.

  11. I don’t think Cameron’s and Hague’s activism on Somalia is so sudden. It appears the UK has been laying out plans for Somalia for quite a while.

    http://szamko.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/somali-pirates-directed-by-british-consultants/

    For starters:

    Yup. Somali pirates are back in the news. After a brief hiatus (and an appearance on South Park), the Guardian reports on an intriguing development. Apparently, a “European military intelligence document” obtained by a Spanish radio station relates how “Somali pirates attacking shipping in the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean are directed to their targets by a “consultant” team in London.”

    This team allegedly relays information about vessels passing through the Gulf of Aden in painstaking detail, although how they come across that information is unclear. Cadena, the radio station that broke the story, suggests that “information that merchant ships sailing through the area volunteer to various international organisations is ending up in the pirates’ hands” presumably quoting from the intelligence document, but how that data passes from those organizations to consultants with tight links to pirates half a world away is a mystery.

    Whatever the mechanism, this network has allowed the pirates to strike efficiently and frequently, much more so than in the past. It has also allowed them to discriminate between the vessels based on their nation of origin. As the Guardian’s Giles Tremlett reports, “Captains of attacked ships have found that pirates know everything from the layout of the vessel to its ports of call” and “In each case, says the document, the pirates had full knowledge of the cargo, nationality and course of the vessel.”

    Yet “The national flag of a ship is also taken into account when choosing a target, with British vessels being increasingly avoided.” ………….’

    According to Wikipedia the first attack on a British came in October not long after the article.

  12. Ruth,

    Ships give out information through a system called AIS. It can detail all that you have listed. At first only other AIS stations within VHF range of the vessel would see the information, it’s purpose was, and is, collision avoidance.
    What has happened though is that internet sites have sprung up, to serve ship-spotter hobbyists, which receive information from shore based receivers that are also linked to the internet. This means that anyone in the world can track most ships from there own house. Look at http://www.marine.traffic.com which covers most of the world’s sea routes. In the UK we have http://www.shipais.com . They are all different, but if you know where to look you can find out about most journeys. For example some will let you back-track the vessels path right to the quay it was loaded at. This will normally give you an idea of what the cargo is, or a starting point for further research.

  13. Somalis were the only ones who made English men sign up to a policy that required whitemen to refrain from slavery and not have children on land. They are not people who will be obedient like in the majority of African countries, and they will just use him like a condom.

    One thing I noticed though is that the people involved with this pirate region that calls itself “puntland” are suspicous companies who seem to make money only from hot air. The facilities they took with them were staged for pictures than real serious explorations.

    This discussion has the photo opportunities Range Resources had:
    http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/61228-Oil-in-Puntland.-Daroor-Oil-Basin?highlight=drilling

    Why other Somalis don’t take them serious is because the “puntland” admin are run by failed taxi drivers from Melbourne who now appoint themselves as presidents and other high ranking positions.

  14. Deepgreenpuddock and T, humanity apparently had the answer to the energy problem back in the ’60s, but preferred to pursue solid-fueled uranium fission instead:
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    http://energyfromthorium.com/essay3rs/
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    Two of these things were actually built; both worked just fine, so I dunno why Cox is on about fusion, maybe he never heard of MSR technology. It seems to me that governments weren’t interested in nuclear power unless it produced plutonium.

  15. 5 million emails from security company Stratfor acquired by Anonymous released by Wikileaks
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    http://t.co/qhX6j3IU

  16. Interesting that there is no UK media partner. And that David Leigh of The Guardian is said to be part of the story this time around.

  17. It really is unbelievable – can’t these people or their advisers try, just once in a while, to throw support behind a genuinely worthy case in which there is no vested interest? Just occasionally, for PR’s sake! Why is it they allow it to be so obvious, that every single time they highlight anything at all that the public should supposedly endorse, they have mates at the ready, gagging to stick their snouts into the proverbial trough?
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    Are they so thick that, and consider themselves so clever, that nobody will notice or care? Or are they – and more particularly, their handlers – just so satisfied with the mechanism that allows them to brazen it out through _anything_, that they just test its efficiency once in a while. And sit back and laugh at the splutterings of the marginalised left who balk at such things, but are scared to even identify themselves as on the left. Progressive Americans became terrified at becoming termed a “liberal” quite some time back. This is just another of our wretched imports of right-wing American philosophy.

  18. DownWithThisSortOfThing

    27 Feb, 2012 - 6:04 am

    Professor Brian Cox peddles a neutered, Frankenstein version of physics which requires a *belief* that 95% of the universe is invisible, undetectable and non-interacting. This is a from of religion, no matter how you dress it up it’s faith.
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    In science today the absolute pinnacle of excellence is reserved for military research. There are whole areas of scientific knowledge which are kept secret because they have become weaponised or have strategic value. Much of this knowledge could benefit humanity immensely.
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    Quantum Theory is one example of such an area. Without QT there would have been no revolution in electronics. Semi-conductors work via quantum effects and were first developed in the 1930s and became widely available in the 1970s, creating the information age we live in today.
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    Yet it is public knowledge that Quantum Theory is incompatible with Einstein’s theory of special relativity. We should therefore understand that Einstein’s theory is simply a widely accepted dogma, or at best an entry point to deeper (often secret) theories.
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    Most of the papers on free energy left by Nikola Tesla are still US state secrets (no profit in it). No one should need reminding of Tesla’s contribution to humanity, but they often do thanks to the promotion of Einsteins flawed theory over the practical, day to day inventions of a true genius who had a real insight and understanding into the nature of the primal force of the universe.

  19. So what happened to Peak Oil ??
    The west coast of africa from Angola all the way up to Western Sahara are opening new fields, then East Africa, and now the Med and the Falklands.
    Is it all just a big ruse to keep prices high ?

    No doubt ,none of this would be necessary if a handful of Tesla’s patents were made public. He is the man after all that could create an electrical current from thin air.
    The hydro carbon addiction would have been cured decades ago leaving a cleaner planet and no need to invade and pollute countries cursed with oil.

  20. Mark
    The story of the Ashshabab girl who killed her own politician father with a suicide bomb was shocking. But as the game of war between CIA backed ALQaida and CIA backed Iran, Saddam, Gaddafi etc etc, gets more exposed, one begins to understand that most of what AlQaida does is lies. The incident may not have happened, and the stories are just dog-shit for ordinary people to skid on.

  21. Jonathan Cook on Gove as Murdoch’s ‘point man’
    Posted by The Editors on February 27, 2012, 8:18 am

    A good article in the Guardian showing that Michael Gove is little more than Rupert Murdoch’s point man in the government. These kinds of veiled and profoundly corrupt connections between the military-industrial complex (think Fox-Werritty-Gould) are how most governmental politics is conducted in Britain, and elsewhere. But investigative reports of this nature constitute what percentage of media coverage of British politics? Certainly far less than 1%. Every time someone wants to point to the proof of a free press, they will be able to cite this article. But the problem is that the 99-plus% of articles reinforce, despite all the evdidence, an entirely different sense of British poliitical life. From now on, every article in which Gove expresses a view on a matter related to Murdoch’s vast empire or to press regulation ought to carry the warning: Gove, who has maintained strong personal and financial ties to Rupert Murdoch, said yesterday about the Leveson inquiry” or whatever. Any chance of that? None whatsoever.
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/feb/26/schools-crusade-gove-murdoch
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    JC

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    Responses:
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    “This far, and no further” nm – Aidan Today, 8:41 am
    Re: “This far, and no further” nm – ITS1789 Today, 9:10 am
    Re: “This far, and no further” nm – Keith-264 Today, 9:36 am
    Re: Jonathan Cook on Gove as Murdoch’s ‘point man’ – The Editors Today, 9:19 am
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    {http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1330330720.html}

  22. Off Topic: Global Financial situation

    There are no better places to view the Great Financial Ponzi scheme at work then by following Max Keiser on RT, all episodes available from his website, and for a more in depth view of the state of the financial system look no further than ZeroHedge.

  23. Michael Stephenson

    27 Feb, 2012 - 10:45 am

    As someone already mentioned wiki leaks are beginning to release the stratfor emails which once again add further evidence to the immorality and illegality behind these shady private intelligence firms and their government and corporate pay masters.
    I predict the MSM will completely fail to bring the story to a large audience and instead focus on how the emails were snatched by anonymous.

  24. Thanks for that link Ruth, who would have known that a London based office is using Somali pirates to gerrymander the oil price. What happens to the oil price if two/three tankers are nabbed? or if the straight of Aden becomes a no go area?

    Somalia’s oil is up for grabs due to the existing chaos, something we helped create and foster and which is to be exploited now. It is far more practible for us to use up other people’s oil before we start using that of the Falklands.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/marketforceslive/2010/may/06/2
    Some 17 test wells have been sunk by Rockhopper since the 1979, last years was successfull, hence the flare up over sovereingty, which does not coubnt when it comes to drones killing civilians but definately matters when the Falkands are at stake.

    Clark and Dwtsortofthing have already pointed to the technological advances that could pull us away from fossile fuel burning. Wireless energy transfer via nano carbon based opposite storage units/batteries have ben developed, but rae stalled in favour of exploiting what little is left, profits before innovation is the agenda. Those dirty companies which are holding on for dear life to oil exploration and burning, which ever way, are notbest pleased to see their profits questioned or abolished by new clean technologies, so unless we dispense with them and their puppets, nothing will change much.

    This, after long searching, shows the advances made with regards to wireless energy production, transfer, and utilisation, the future. It will make fossile fuels obsolete.
    http://www.nd.edu/~pkamat/pdf/nanocarbon.pdf

  25. Let us face it, if by now, anyone is in any doubt about the selfish reasons of the Western Leadership about their constant meddling in all the affairs of the Johnny foreigner around the globe, he/she ought to be certified as insane and sent to an asylum for their own safety.
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    I don’t like to think I am the Winston Smith of our times. Has no one thought why on Earth the Islamic Courts Systems in Somalia were destroyed by the help of that turn coat Meles Zenawi? (Ethiopian attack on Somalia)
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    I am no fucking genius to see the link being oil and minerals. Do I have to wait for some “oh so informed stooge” (who has been reading what I have read, and written about on various cyberspots) to put pen to paper in some rag, for me to accept that what I have known for years is actually true!
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    Somalia was the next target in the long line of targets, but Russians pissing on the plans of expansion to Syria made room for it to be forwarded on the list of must invade in the Pentagon. the Afircom set up in Djibouti is well placed to take care of/infiltrate the Alshabab or “the youth/young people/young ones” in Somalia, who have been the best ever advent for the flagging insurance industry (less volume of traffic getting insured) that has been hiking up their premiums for the sake of the pirates of Somalia.
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    However for the sake of not losing momentum (the wankers are on a roll and would like to keep it that way) have now decided upon Somalia to be the next target for democratization and liberations.
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    US strategy of creeping ivy invasion of the globe so far has continued unrelenting, promoting a broken down economic and political doctrine, that it finds as the only method of self preservation. The theory goes in a land of disabled there ought not exist any able bodied entities to challenge the supremacy of the disabled, and lame brains.

  26. [Mod: deleted -response to deleted spam]

  27. E-mail just in from a friend.
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    Lorna Fitzsimmons Abandons Sinking Ship
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    The full story has yet to emerge, if it ever does, of Mossad Agents Adam Werrity and Liam Fox MP and Defence Secretary and BICOM’s (British Israel Communications and Research Centre) role in transferring funds to Werrity’s bogus charity Atlantic Bridge, which existed to forge links at the highest level between Israel and the UK Arms industry. The millionaire arms dealer Zabludowicz was the bag-holder and the UK’s Ambassador to Israel was part of the conspiracy.
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    If these people had been operating a similar conspiracy of behalf of Iran instead of Israel, they would all be in jail.
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    Nobody seems to know where Werrity is at present but he is not in the UK, and the whole story has been closed down, at least for the present. This is the Jewish Chronicle’s take on the resignation, so not a word is mentioned about Liam Fox etc.
    Anyway good riddance to Lorna.
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    http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/64079/lorna-fitzsimons-resigns-bicom-chief-executive
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    Lorna Fitzsimmons Resigns as BICOM Executive

    By Jennifer Lipman, February 24, 2012
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    Lorna Fitzsimons (third left) with Hazel Blears MP, Bicom chairman Poju Zabludowicz and Baroness Margaret McDonagh (photo)
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    The chief executive of the Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre is to step down after nearly six years in the role.
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    Lorna Fitzsimons, who served as a Labour MP for Rochdale for eight years before joining Bicom, is leaving to pursue other opportunities.
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    Ms Fitzsimons, who was president of the National Union of Students between 1992 and 1994, took the job at Bicom in 2006 after Danny Shek stepped down.
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    Under her supervision, Bicom held the We Believe in Israel conference last year, attracting 1,500 people and nearly 100 guest speakers.
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    Bicom was set up in 2001 to counter anti-Israel propaganda. When Ms Fitzsimons, 44, was appointed its chief executive, she said that “Israel was at the forefront of a struggle that has a direct impact on us here in the UK.
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    Ms Fitzsimons said working for Bicom had been “the most amazing experience and privilege”.
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    “To be able to work on an issue that you also believe in and care about is a luxury not many people have. My belief in what we do and its importance has not diminished and will not in the future.
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    “Now more than ever Israel needs friends and I can assure you I will never stint in my efforts to promote and defend her. I am leaving the organisation in good hands with Dermot Kehoe leading the team going forward.” Mr kehoe will lead Bicom until a new chief executive is appointed.
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    Bicom board chairman Poju Zabludowicz said the board had reluctantly accepted her resignation.
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    “Under Lorna’s leadership Bicom has reached exemplary levels. She leaves a huge mark on the organisation, the pro-Israel community and Israel advocacy.”

  28. Oops! Perhaps the RWE management and their operatives do not know about the amount of heat generated when piled up organic material decays.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-17177035
    Big fire at Tilbury power station, recently coal burning but being converted to wood burning.

  29. Mary,
    How very true, if these characters had been engaged on “advocacy” for any other country than the apartheid regime in Isreal, they would have been tried and imprisoned under the charges of treason. The stench of corruption must have reached to such an intolerable degrees that Lorna Fitzsimons has been put to pasture. Although her fawning genuflections to all things zionist will ensure this operative to be shoved into another spot to carry on her hasbara activities.
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    There is a new scandal unfolding along and the preemtive sacking/resignation (no replacement as yet) is a protective measure at gaining distance.

  30. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/02/201222618624894299.html

    Contrast the story on Al Jazeera with that of the BBC coverage.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-17152620

    Not a word about it in the Guardian, I syuppose they have to confrom these days. Thanks for relaying this excellent news Mary, does this mean the CFI are being rejuvenated with somebody else, someone more compliant.
    Adam werrity must be in Somalia if he’s not here, dealing with the UK’s next frantic steal and most likely seeling arms to both factions.

  31. Her replacement Dermot Kehoe, ex BBC, Home Office etc, was the partner of late David Cairns MP, chair of Labour Friends of Israel and Scottish Minister. He succeeded George Foulkes, also fervent Friend of Israel. What with declared Zionist loving Bliar and Brown, quite a nest of vipers up there in Bonny Scotland.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cairns_(politician)
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    Kehoe – {http://www.publicaffairsnews.com/no_cache/home/uk-news/news-detail/newsarticle/bicom-names-kehoe-as-director-of-media-and-public-affairs/2/?tx_ttnews%5Bpointer%5D=5&cHash=c3a809b8e8}

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    PS Another Costa ship in trouble. Adrift off the Seychelles after a fire. What next for Mr Mickey Arison of Carnival.

  32. The Somalis don’t deserve or need any of the sort of help that they are likely to get from the western governments.

  33. Ambassador M K Bhadrakumar at Asia Times on present echoes of Alexander Burnes times:

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NB28Df02.html

    “No doubt, the ground beneath the American feet in the Hindu Kush is shifting dangerously. The British, too, were unprepared for the insurrection in Kabul in November 1841. They failed to grasp the significance when the mob encircled the villa of Sir Alexander Burnes in Kabul. The British diplomat tried to offer money to the crowd but the residence was overrun and he and his brother were killed.

    The British finally understood it was time to leave Afghanistan when their cantonment in Kabul was encircled a month later. By that time, in the event, even an orderly retreat became problematic.”

  34. Michael Stephenson

    27 Feb, 2012 - 5:24 pm

    So today Wikileaks makes allegations that worthless Guardian Hack David Leigh who was given the US Diplomatic cables passed the cables on, against a contract signed with wikileaks, to Haaretz Hack Yossi Melman who in turn handed them over to the Israeli government.
    (One wonders how much of a kick back Leigh got for that)
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    http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2012/02/wikileaks-releasing-think-tank-emails.html
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    Then Leigh posts this on twitter:
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    “I’m told #Assange now says I’m a Mossad agent, along with top journo Yossi Melman. Same old conspiracy theories at #wilkileaks, then”
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    Hardly an accurate representation of a not exactly far fetched charge on Assange’s part.
    Especially since he has the Stratfor emails to show Yossi passed on the cables, and Leigh is one of only a few possible sources.
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    Leigh is a cheap hack with no integrity.
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    First he conspired to hand over the cables to a foreign government, then through his ineptitude forced the cables to be released unredacted all over the internet. Lock him up in Guantanmo I say!

  35. Thanks for that timely snippet PhilW., this will open up the old wounds between Tajiks and pashtuns, because the burning of the quoran has filled the barrel to the brim, noughs enough, one feels as if the thumb of history is turning downwards and the middle finger rising towards washington.

    This latest wiki release a diversion of attention? how could I possibly be so cynical.:)

    Now which hotel do we reckon Craig will be staying at in Berlin? Unter den Linden or the Kempinski?
    And has he heard the rumour that A. Werritty has been spotted in kreuzberg, eating some excellent Turkish food, I hope this will get him into hot waters with his mate Mathew Gould.;)

  36. Craig, this report from Ron Bailey and Lotte Blair is damning to say the least.
    Parliament was misled about our energy demands and needs, the HoC has been hodwinked into furthering our dependency on french nuclear power.
    Please spread this report and get in touch with your MP’s over this, s/he might respond with some startling reply.

    We do not need nuclear but this coalition has given the go ahead, thats why windpower is stalling, as if the conservatives are taking a chainsaw to their new green tree logo.
    Hope this helps, somewhere.

    http://www.ukace.org/publications/ACE%20Campaigns%20%282012-01%29%20-%20Corruption%20of%20Governance%20-%20Jan%202012

  37. Ingo,
    For the kreuz, or the halal food?
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    Are you serious about the sighting?

  38. 2012 – The Year of Armageddon
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    Extending the tenure of the Bush dynasty was a masterpiece of political manipulation, probably the output of thousands of ‘what if’s’ that plugged Barack Obama into the ‘long war’ machine. Obama would consolidate the drone role and plug in the last node of US Corporatistan. Uncle Sam’s big guns now surround Iran with military bases in the Gulf, in Pakistan, in Afghanistan, in Turkey, in Central Asia, in Iraq, in Cyprus, not to mention Israel, a naval base in Oman close to the hyper-strategic Strait of Hormuz and not forgetting the Indian Ocean, in Diego Garcia.
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    A recent US Global Strike plan shows us that it will take a mere twelve hours to simultaneously unload mini-nukes, defensive weapons, smart bombs and Israel’s BLU 109 bunker busters on 10,000 strategic targets; a deadlier remix of Shock & Awe, destroying the bulk of the political, military, economic and transport infrastructure of Iran.
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    For this mini-armageddon, support spews from neocon ‘Friends of Bush,’ Pentagon armchair warriors, MSM and the ‘British Taliban’ who derive outstanding business profits from globilisation and war. In the Middle East the economic interests of the US military-industrial complex merge with the geopolitical interests of ‘Eretz Israel’ proponents.
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    Against this catatrophic precursor to WWIII is virtually all of the world’s public opinion, including Big Oil, the rational Middle England, the US beleaguered middle class and essentially those ‘disgusting’ and ‘outrageous’ BRICS members, Russia and China who caused a ‘travesty’ by a double veto that blocked a UNSC resolution imposing regime change in Syria that upped the $15 trillion US debt by another $millions spent on weapons, training and logistics (plus the odd bribe here and there).
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    This mini-armaggedon is the climax of a ‘war on war’ costing $trillions; from the planning of the collapse of the ‘twin towers’ to the ‘fake’ war in Afghanistan and the smashing of Iraq, fulfilling the dreams of the supremacist ‘road map’ concocted by PNAC.
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    But will the bribes hold with Russia? Will China, the sleeping giant awake? Will the mini-armageddon become a race for the firing buttons resulting in the mother of all fires?
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    I believe it will.

  39. I do hope you are wrong Mark. Your piece brought back to mind Nevil Shute’s novel On The Beach which haunted my teenage years. My father often referred to Armageddon.
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    ‘On the Beach is a post-apocalyptic, end-of-the-world novel written by British-Australian author Nevil Shute after he emigrated to Australia. It was published in 1957.

    .
    The book takes its name from the T. S. Eliot poem The Hollow Men, which includes the line “Gathered on this beach of the tumid river.” Some editions of the novel, including the 1990 publication by Mandarin Paperbacks, include extracts from the poem, such as its concluding lines:

    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper. ‘
    .
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(novel)

  40. @fedup. Love to see him on the Kreuz, covered in Tiramisu and with a hala chicken sticking out of his every orifices.

    Sorry, I fibbed it :( just trying to keep his name popular, up in the googly ranks, despite not a single media outlet making anything of his sudden demise, he is being talked about…

  41. Off Topic: 9/11

    Just YouTube Susan Lindaeur on YouTube and look for the series 1-8, and be very sickened that the media has not brought this up. WTF is going on?

  42. “This is just another of our wretched imports of right-wing American philosophy.”

    Please! Our governments foreign policies are not of the Right, or the left, wing of politics, they are the policies of infidels. A true right winger is a Christian and they would not behave in that manner. Period.

    A Christian would be trying to make peace and would be looking for mutual understanding, building bridges, sharing common, concerns.

    They are not right wing please.

    War mongering and global imperialism is a concept fot the globalists whether on the left or right they are globalists.
    Big Business and international finance.

  43. True or false?
    .
    Britain begins preparations for Afghanistan withdrawal
    Britain has signalled the start of the withdrawal of its vast military infrastructure from Afghanistan with the signing of a crucial new defence pact which should ensure safe passage home for billions of pounds worth of vital equipment.
    .
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9109508/Britain-begins-preparations-for-Afghanistan-withdrawal.html
    .
    It is Con Coughlin writing it.

  44. contd.
    .
    An excerpt – Hammond is doing business with Karimov
    .
    The Defence Secretary hopes a “reverse transiting agreement” will result in Kazakhstan also providing permission for military equipment such as tanks and armoured personnel carriers to be carried by train on a 4,000-mile journey from northern Afghanistan to the Baltic, where they will then be shipped back to Britain.
    .

    On Tuesday he will be having talks in neighbouring Uzbekistan in the hope of agreeing similar transit rights. In addition Nick Harvey, the Armed Forces Minister, is travelling this week to Kyrgystan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan to explore the possibility of negotiating similar deals.
    .

    Slightly surreal writing this as Paxman drones on in the background at the start of his Empire series.

  45. With the Iranian pot bubbling to a the boil, Israel adds fuel to the flames. Israel has signed a $1.6 billion dollar arms deal with Azerbaijan which lies between Russia and Iran, bordering the Caspian Sea. The capital Baku is the origin of two major oil/gas(?) pipelines. One heads north into Russia, the other west to Tbilisi, Georgia then on the Ceyhan on the Turkish coast. Azerbaijan also seems to be a favorite spot for CIA/Mossad types wanting to spy on Iran.
    .
    http://news.yahoo.com/israel-inks-1-6-billion-arms-deal-azerbaijan-150647547.html
    .
    What will Israel get from this beyond the prima face deal? Use of airfields and airspace?
    .
    Israel tried something similar a while ago in Georgia. Will there be a repeat of what happened there? Azerbaijan also hosts a large Russian early warning radar site at Gabala. I suspect Russia won’t want to lose that. Interesting times!

  46. Susan Lindauer
    .
    Her five year indictment on the Patriot Act ended without a Trial five days before President Obama’s inauguration.
    .
    She has been called Hallucinatory, Incompetent, a Storyteller and a Trickster.
    .
    Even her Wiki was modified to include a ‘hideously biased intelligence smear’ and her YouTube reference DELETED.
    .

  47. Meanwhile, the US puts its stormtroopers onto Yemen’s island of Socotra.
    .
    http://bikyamasr.com/58422/american-troops-flood-island-of-socotra/
    .
    A beautiful place … {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEEqHnuDaTo}
    .
    Just asking to be trashed, so they will pave paradise and put up a parking lot.
    .
    {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bdMSCdw20}

  48. Yonatan, answering your query on the last thread, we used subscription on-line services including DIALOG and FT-Profile, and some others whose names now escape me. These services were multi-database collections that could be searched together or individually, ie in DIALOG I could search engineering and geology databases together, or separately. The main geology and exploration database I used was GEOREF, but you developed a ‘feel’ for what was in each one, just as you did with our internal reports database. Sadly, or not, all of this accumulated experience was lost when the Glasgow office was closed. Some articles in these databases would turn up in multiple locations, too.

  49. Glenn UK;

    ” can’t these people or their advisers try, just once in a while, to throw support behind a genuinely worthy case in which there is no vested interest? Just occasionally, for PR’s sake!”

    Economics is the basis for all diplomacy. You knew that, already. I just don’t understand, as you do not, why the sub-humans can’t see a capital return on benevolence. Yin Yang is a bitch, and she takes no prisoners.

  50. Argentina Turns Away Carnival Ships as Falkland Spat Escalates
    ,
    Argentine port authorities today blocked two British cruise ships owned by Carnival Corp. (CCL) from docking after the vessels made a port call in the Falkland Islands, whose ownership is at the center of a dispute between the U.K. and the South American country.
    .
    .
    Carnival’s share price fell by less than 0.1 percent today to $29.96.

    ,

  51. MP assaulted for challenging racist behaviour on the train
    ,
    At around 10.30pm on Thursday, a group of three men were heard to make loud, racist comments on a traein from Lancaster to Barrow.

    Barrow and Furness MP John Woodcock said he was set upon by two of the thugs on arrival at Barrow station, after he approached them about making offensive comments.
    ,
    All the preparations are in place to welcome the immigrants guests for the Olympics, sure as hell they will enjoy getting abused and getting a good kicking, when set upon for their troubles to dare to come here in the first place.
    ,
    BTW are arrangements made for Sir Andrew Green booking into a hospital for his probable blowing up a gasket at the figures of immigrants into UK this summer?

  52. 28 February 2012 Last updated at 01:49

    St Paul’s protest: Occupy London camp eviction starts
    Occupy London camp eviction Bailiffs acting on a court order started to remove tents from
    Police and bailiffs have moved in to remove protesters from the Occupy London camp at St Paul’s Cathedral.

    Bailiffs have started to remove tents and other equipment from the site. There have been no reports of trouble.

    Occupy London was last week refused permission to appeal against a High Court decision to allow their eviction to proceed.

    Live on BBC News right now – also live stream at http://www.occupylondonsos.org/livestream.htm

  53. still eyeing the prize of venezuelan oil:

    18 Feb: Haaretz: AP: Jewish group: Chavez presidential rival a target of
    anti-Semitism
    The Simon Wiesenthal Center condemned a column that described the Jewish
    ancestry of opposition leader Henrique Capriles Radonski and labeled him a
    secret follower of Zionism, which it called “the most rotten sentiments
    represented by humanity.” …
    Like the vast majority of Venezuelans, Capriles practices Roman Catholicism
    but his mother came from a family of Sephardic Jews who escaped Nazi
    persecution and sought safety on the Caribbean island of Curacao before
    settling in Venezuela.
    Oddly, the column also accused Carpiles of involvement in a group that
    promotes “the national Aryan race,” referring to a racial concept promoted
    by Nazi leader Adolf Hitler. …
    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-group-chavez-presidential-rival-a-target-of-anti-semitism-1.413308

    Capriles is a total media darling. BBC has him in the shantytowns, but with a “priveleged upbringing”, and forgiven for allegedly leading the failed coup against Chavez!

    13 Feb: BBC: Venezuela poll: Opposition candidate Henrique Capriles
    As the energetic governor of the state of Miranda, Mr Capriles, 39, likes to
    stay in touch with voters, visiting shantytowns, often on his motorbike, to
    supervise projects and play basketball with the locals.
    Dressed casually in baseball cap and jeans, he likes to be seen to be
    getting things done.
    He was photographed wading chest high in muddy flood waters when heavy rains
    brought landslides and chaos to Miranda in 2010…
    He had a privileged upbringing, studying law and going on to work in both
    the public and private sectors in Venezuela…
    Afterwards, Chavez supporters alleged that Mr Capriles led the siege.
    Capriles said he had helped to negotiate an end to the stand-off.
    He was charged and brought to trial, but eventually acquitted.
    The episode seemed to do nothing to dampen some voters’ enthusiasm for the
    political wunderkind…
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16811723

  54. NHS privatisation: Compilation of financial and vested interests.
    .
    This list represents the dire state of our democracy. The financial and vested interests of our MPs and Lords in private healthcare. Why are these people allowed to be in charge of our NHS, to vote on a bill that they clearly have something to gain from? Who cares that they have put it in the register of interests. This doesn’t excuse their interests, it merely highlights clearly why they should have no part in voting for the privatisation of the NHS. It is privatisation, despite the media’s continued use of the word ‘reforms’. The question must be asked. Are they public servants or corporate servants,

    .
    http://socialinvestigations.blogspot.com/2012/02/nhs-privatisation-compilation-of.html

    .
    Read also the later posts about Lord Chadlington, good friend of Cameron. He gave Cameron some land on the cheap to enlarge his garden.
    .
    ‘Incidentally, Lord Chadlington is the Prime Minister’s constituency party chairman. They know each other well. Lord Chadlington paid £715,000 for a house next to Mr Cameron’s last November; the home which Mr Cameron took out a £350,000 taxpayer-funded mortgage on. Lord Chadlington never moved in but sold David Cameron, a piece of the land at £137,000, which Cameron failed to declare.’
    .
    Vile bodies. Vile people. They are going to kill OUR NHS.

  55. Goodbye Occupy LSX…for now.
    .
    See John Cooper QC in Twitter.
    http://twitter.com/john_cooper_qc

  56. Mary, they’ve changed ‘Threat’ to ‘Efficacy’ now
    .
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17128991

  57. You’ve got to love this piece of British State propaganda Channel ( ZBC) propaganda
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    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15648166
    .
    .
    .
    halfway down the sub heading says:
    .
    .
    “How an implosion device could trigger a nuclear bomb”
    .
    .
    .
    and there’s a scary diagram.
    .
    .
    I note the deliberate use of the word ‘could’ – The ZBC seem to have forgotten that the implosion device was one of the two types tested in live condition using live subjects over Japan in 1945. Fat Man was designated to be test over Nagasaki
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Man
    .
    .
    So what about the usage of the word ‘could’ ??
    .
    .
    Well ‘could’ is a threat word isn’t it?

  58. Smeggypants
    See how independent the zioBBC is? It even takes note and changes “Threat” to “Efficacy”, to begin with Iranian were a portrayed as a “threat” to the attacking Israeli jets (free jets from US, and ordnance, and bombs), now it is the condescending “Efficacy” ie how can they (Iranians) do jack shit in the face of “superior” technology. Just reading the crap makes anyone with a modicum of sense to cringe. This shit is supported by the license fee too.

  59. Mary,
    .
    I also hope I am wrong – but dreams of Utopia are not enough. Thankfully the WWW is our ‘sword’ against evil; as you know I put a proposal to Putin that would put an outstretched arm up against war. I asked:
    .
    “Prime Minister Putin to immediately engage in talks with China, drafting an appeal to founding members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation; [上海合作组织; Шанхайская организация сотрудничества] – to amend the framework to include mutual military security that will protect members, including senior observers awaiting consensus and ratification, against any strike carried out without UNSC approval.
    .
    He failed to reply so I have written again expressing concern.
    .
    The recent attempt to assassinate Putin rippled through MI6 according to a low level insider.
    .
    The British press wrote the disingenuous comment, ‘a purported assassination attempt against Vladimir Putin to boost his popularity ahead of Russia’s upcoming presidential election.’
    .
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/27/putin-assassination-plot-denounced
    .
    I have warned President Putin that further attempts to murder him and eliminate a powerful force against US world domination is likely in this dangerous point in time.

  60. 40 years to decontaminate and dismantle Fukushima yet Cameron wants to put more of the obscenities around our country.
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17188373

  61. Another You Could Not Make It Up.
    .
    The Met loaned Rebekkah Brooks a horse for over a year.

  62. The Sun made an unfortunate choice of headline today.
    .
    Taking Us For A Ride.
    http://twitpic.com/8pk31f
    .
    Alas not about the flame haired beauty and her steed but about a benefits cheat of course.

  63. http://electronicintifada.net/
    Green Party conference calls for revocation of JNF UK charitable status
    Judge throws out Israel-backed lawsuit against Olympia Food Co-op, upholds right to boycott
    BDS victory: Ahava products spiked in Japan because of legal and ethical issues

  64. From JE in White Plains, NY
    .
    “It’s NO SURPRISE that there’s an assassination attempt on Putin, he’s anti-Wall Street and City of London and against their destructive speculative casino of derivatives and other complex financial garbage!

    The City of London along with Wall Street’s global financial casino is HOPELESSLY bankrupt and CAN’T be saved! The Euro is in the middle of collapse. Meanwhile the countries of Asia such as Russia and China are doing much better economically and are involved in big development projects such as space, science and infrastructure, stuff that America during the Presidencies of F.D.R. and J.F.K. used to do!

    The global bankers don’t like this and want to see Putin dead and a puppet of their bankrupt financial system put into power in Russia. They would love to force regime change in Russia by giving Putin the Gaddafi “treatment”.
    .
    An astute American and of course a member of ‘Occupy’…

  65. Mark Golding, have you any idea what Putin has done to Chechnya?

  66. DownWithThisSortOfThing

    28 Feb, 2012 - 6:01 pm

    “The Quest for Somali Oil”
    .
    Uh? BP’s oil surely. Don’t give the little people silly ideas that will only get them killed.
    .
    Think of what oil will bring to Somalia, an airport to get the workers in. A seaport to get the oil out, and a road between the airport and the oil fields. Lucky Somalis.

  67. Old Lag,
    .
    Yes, very much so. For Putin, Chechnya has become a trap he cannot escape. Yet he recognizes his own failures and rails in frustration at his inability to stop the violence.
    .
    I cried with the mothers of Beslan children and I note Putin met some mothers willing to talk to him.
    .
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6202735.stm
    .

    I also cried after seeing the carnage in Baghdad; Blair, a commander and leader in that massacre relieved his own conscious by stating: “If you have faith about these things then you realise that judgement is made by other people. If you believe in God, it’s made by God as well.”
    .
    Credulous as it seems, our own Prime Minister invokes God in a continuing crusade to impose our democracy on the rest of this world. Is that the right idea?

  68. Your tears, Mr Golding, are neither here nor there. Putin installed and backed Kadyrov: you can look up his regime’s record of torture, murder and abduction if you wish. Better, you can read Anna Politkovskaya on the subject – you must remember the journalist and critic of Putin who was assassinated, surely? Or any of his other opponents who have been jailed, tortured or murdered. Why would Putin’s ability to meet with Chechen mothers count in the face of a regime which a) openly crushes all opposition b) openly fixes elections c) openly stands against human rights including those of women and homosexuals?

    I have no idea what you mean by referring to the current western vogue for invoking ‘god'; at least, I have no idea why you think it is relevant to Putin’s track record.

  69. … have you any idea what Putin has done to Chechnya?
    ,
    Why Chechenya became to be?
    Who/which entity poured the money along with the ideology into Chechenya, and why?
    ,
    So easy to regurgitate the standard lines.
    ,
    So far as Putin is concerned he is worrying the Master of the Universe, and the dog and pony show of holding hands and already declaring the elections rigged.
    ,
    The proud traditions of the hanging chads of Florida, the miracle Diebold vote production machines, and the court selected presidents as yet have not made any head ways into Russia and the other “Dictatorships”, soon as these see the world from the Sam-tinted glasses all will be good and fair and Free.

  70. ‘fedup’ how nice of you to answer a point made to someone else. and how interesting the way the far-out right (you won’t get any thanks from your masters btw; they will use you as cannon fodder) attempt so sadly to confuse the corruption in one part of the world with the horror in another. Diebold: yes, sure, people have been writing about it for years. What has that got to do with Putin? Nothing, is the answer, in case you’re searching for it.

  71. Presumably, in Russia, some people are justifying the attack on Iraq by pointing to Chechnya.

  72. Sorry, Fedup; perhaps that was unfair, If you’re saying that everything is rigged just about everywhere I am increasingly inclined to agree with you. Though I think we can all try and do something about it eg; agitate and act for the best of the options (bearing in mind that perfection is only achievable in the imagination). If you’re saying that we should embrace Putin because he is not American, on the other hand, I part company.

  73. With apologies to Aangirfan again for cherry-picking ideas from his blog and commenting on them here which has a more user-friendly commenting system, he recently published an interview with Jewish Egyptian Ayman Al-Zawahiri about Zionist-Islamist politics:
    http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2012/02/lunch-with-ft-ayman-al-zawahiri.html
    One part of the interview particularly caught by attention:
    .
    ‘I asked him about Israel’s attitude.

    “Israel always supports the Islamists against the nationalists,” he replied.’
    The interview may be imaginary or real, Allah knows, but the political rhetoric in this reply may shed light on what is happening in the world.
    The Zionists identify themselves principally by their nationality, but their ambition for power is global. Identifying yourself as a nationalist cause limits your scope and exposes you to attack from other nationalisms. On the whole most people who take an interest in politics in the world are interested in the subject from their own country’s perspective. What’s beneficial to the place where I live.
    So Zionists seek to define themselves as political players in the context of moral or religious values such as Islam.
    .
    In the light of Zionist global influence it therefore pays for Muslim political thinkers to define themselves as Islamist, radical opponents to national interests, even though Islam defines them principally as moralists and jurists. In other words in real-politick it pays to hate the people whose country you live in, even though your religion tells you not to hate them. Zionist influence will allow your religion to flourish, build mosques, schools, communities if you are racist against the host community, because you are helping the Zionists to be seen as a moral/religious cause, instead of a nationalistic cause.
    .
    That is why those of us who are constantly scratching our heads why our government does everything they possible can to weaken our countries reputation and influence in the world. That is why the religious leaders of my religion of Islam do everything they possibly can to weaken Islam’s reputation and influence:
    There’s Ziownie points in being extreme. The UK politicians are collecting Ziownie points on their nectar cards for bombing the shit out of innocent populations and the mad mullahs are collecting Ziownie points on their nectar cards, instead of accumulating rewards from their Creator for showing a good, compassionate example of Islam.

  74. The US MIC is replaying the Iraq war playbook line by line, using embedded ex-military generals posing as independent policy experts. Glenn Greenwald has the details. Follow the money is always good advice.
    .
    http://www.salon.com/2012/02/28/gen_mccaffrey_privately_briefs_nbc_execs_on_war_with_iran/singleton/

  75. May 2010, general election time, usually the time when mullahs visit the UK, giving their approval of x or y candidate and then hope that the family elders and tribal leaders will follow their advise.
    Off course politicians help out, feeding a few hundred during election time has never cost Jack Straw his seat or disqualified him from the campaign, nor has physical violence against fellow candidates and/or their staff.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5S735cg2BI&feature=related

    This confetrence I sat at, not understanding much but connec ting with a lot of people, I watched the approx. 600-1000 people raise 650.000 in less than an hour, to buy the school theur were having the conference in. The mullahs was from Pakistan and just as the arch bishop of soandso, looked reasuringly dodgy. As the only non believer in the dining hall, presumably, it felt like I was watching in on a fundraising event that was local, but also funded the various speakers and their causes.

    ‘the accumulation of rewards, so my candidate’s husband said, was more to the causes of the mullahs than the local cause’
    the creator did not come into it.

    It is these men who divert british politics with the help of established party politicians, politics and religion make for a powerfull alliance and the same can be said of any religion.

    As for Somalia, their headache has only begun and when the bullets fly again its the neighbouring countries that will fear the brunt of refugees and misery, I hope our excellent british wear planners are planning ahead for this war famine to come.

  76. And what do our unions do? They give some more infamous PR to the Olympics, but why? not that I support this concrete display in east London.
    Have the unions the need to band waggon such an event to highlight their case against cuts in public services? what is stopping them calling for civil disobedience NOW? everywhere? what utter piffle, calling themselves workers representatives, naive-lings?

    Its not the message I’m becrying here, but the apathetic nature and the lethargic old guard within the unions that have become MSM messengers themselves. What an own goal, have they not learned at all from previous London demonstrations? what a prospect of asking demonstrators to mingle with 30.000 police and make their points in front of a perplexed and bewildered foreign crowd.

    If he had any brains he would have told people to do their civil disobedience in their regional City’s and towns, not in a festooned London, and do it now, or eastern, may day, no, it had to be the Olympics, what a self grandising prat.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/feb/29/nick-clegg-ed-miliband-len-mccluskey

  77. Old Lag,
    .
    Putin’s meeting with bereaved Beslan mothers whose children drank their own urine to prevent dehydration before the explosions and who lost arms and legs after the Chechen guerrillas hanging bombs went off, is fact. Despite invoking God, war criminal Blair murdered thousands of children in an illegal war; that also is fact.
    .
    Kadyrov is a thug, put in place to deal with thugs, assassins, guerrillas and murderers. And yes I remember Anna Politkovskaya, Natalya Estemirova and others whose deaths are swathed in mere talk, hearsay and innuendo with some believing Western backed Chechen rebels were involved. Sorry, but I find your reply condescending; patronising statements ending in ‘surely’ serve only to stifle debate.

  78. I do like Banksy. What imagination here.
    http://thefoxisblack.com/blogimages//banksy-fox-colonel-sanders.jpg
    .
    The blog post reads –

    I saw this excerpt of Banksy’s thoughts on advertising earlier today, so I thought I’d share.
    .
    People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.
    .
    You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.
    .
    Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.
    .
    You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.
    .
    – Banksy

    .
    {http://thefoxisblack.com/2012/02/29/banksy-on-advertising/}

  79. Does anyone believe this fantasy?
    .
    Up to 13 activists have died helping to smuggle wounded British photographer Paul Conroy out of the besieged Syrian city of Homs, international campaign group Avaaz says.
    .
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/activists-killed-as-wounded-photographer-smuggled-out-of-syria-20120229-1u1o7.html

  80. O/T

    Good morning Craig someone has just tweeted your post Bent Cops On Parade…I wanted to leave a link but you have closed your comments section.

    I hope it is Ok to leave it here and let everyone ponder as to why a British police force LEICESTER, would hold back paedophile allegations from the Portuguese investigation when the very person the allegations were against was present when a three year old disappeared ?

    Do the NHS protect doctors if they are paedophlies ?

    http://thetapas9drdavidpayne.blogspot.com/2012/02/david-payne-may-hold-key-to-maddie.html

  81. “Up to 13 activists ….”
    Is Judas back int the fold then?
    ,
    Sort of last supperish, but this time it is the messiah of a different sort, instead of getting crucified was “shelled” in the hands of not the Pontius Pilate but the Dictator Assad.
    ,
    Who dreamed up this crock of shit?

  82. Ingo said; “what is stopping them calling for civil disobedience NOW?….”
    ,
    The reasons are many;
    1- There is no British National Transitional Council.
    2- There is No British Free Army.
    3- No UN resolutions in support of the above.
    4- civil Disobedience is incitement to insurrection and before the chaps know, they have been shoved into a cell, out of a job, caught for drunk driving, their adulterous affairs made headlines of the tabloids, in the worst case scenario shoved under the tube, or even worse than worse than (Teutonic accent required) zhat Dr. Kelly-ed or stiffed and put into a hold all adorned in bondage gear.
    ,
    So don’t be silly, expecting anyone to call for any kind of gathering/action other than a street party for Jubilee. FFS every other day someone is threatening Craig on his blog for one reason or other ie not regurgitating the party line and the manifesto, and sort of shining some truth on the subject matter, albeit tongue in the cheek sort of way, as in this one
    ,
    Passedby
    27 Feb, 2012 – 12:03 pm
    Craig,
    I just read about you in the Who is Who 2011. Did you have to give your full address? Some of the postings on your blog may irritate very powerful people.

  83. Suhaal de Sade

    29 Feb, 2012 - 2:39 pm

    Ah! Somali massage oil! How well I recall my days there. Such skill, such pleasure!
    .
    [Mod: This came from China. Neil Barker usually posts from there.]

  84. Golding – debate?????? Who can agree with each other the most. Ha Ha.

  85. Yonatan – I note ex generals who pose as ‘analysts’ have a vested interest in promoting the hardware of wars.
    .
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/30/washington/30general.html?pagewanted=all
    .
    Most general analysts writing here on what is fundamentally a human rights weblog have a vested interest in denouncing war. So I guess most times we are in agreement. :)

  86. That’s right, Mark Golding, the West conspired both to assassinate Putin and his most outspoken critic. How he must appreciate your support.

  87. NB I find your casual dimissal of the horrors which have happened and are happening to Chechnya under Putin extraordinary.

  88. Ben Franklin

    29 Feb, 2012 - 6:47 pm

    Stratfor and CIA cronies outed by Wikileaks….

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9111784/Stratfor-executive-boasted-of-trusted-former-CIA-cronies.html

    Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Texas firm, also informed members of staff that he had a copy of the confidential indictment on Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.
    The second batch of five million internal Stratfor emails obtained by the Anonymous computer hacking group revealed that the company has high level sources within the United States and other governments, runs a network of paid informants that includes embassy staff and journalists and planned a hedge fund, Stratcap, based on its secret intelligence.
    It operates something of an employment revolving door with branches of the Washington establishment. Mr Burton was previously deputy chief of the counter-terrorism division in the state department’s diplomatic security service.
    The emails indicated that the company pays for information. One email released by WikiLeaks described a £4,000-a-month payment made to a Middle Eastern source, and another carried bits of gossip dropped by a retired spy.
    Derided as a “shadow CIA” by Mr Assange, one email from chief executive George Friedman also suggested it used methods redolent of spy agencies.

  89. Leaked emails (Stratfor) reveal efforts to nail Assange: “Bankrupt the asshole, ruin his life, give him 7-12yrs for conspiracy.”
    Leaked Stratfor Email Suggests Secret U.S. Indictment of WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange
    http://www.democracynow.org/2012/2/29/leaked_stratfor_email_suggests_secret_us

  90. deaf dumb & blind fool

    29 Feb, 2012 - 9:21 pm

    Any thoughts on Mr Burby and the parliamentary committee on super injunctions?

  91. Liked that Banksy bit Mary. Thanks

  92. From an Aussie wag.
    .
    Just saying good bye .. leaving town
    http://tiny.cc/ayoli
    .
    To help save the economy, the Australian Government will announce next month that the Immigration Department will start deporting seniors (instead of illegals) in order to lower Social Security and Medicare costs.
    .
    Older people are easier to catch and will not remember how to get back home.
    .
    I started to cry when I thought of you.
    Then it dawned on me … oh, crap …
    I’ll see you on the bus!
    I want the front seat

  93. Neil Saunders

    29 Feb, 2012 - 10:36 pm

    As for Mr. Burby I would try the ‘ex’ of a ‘ruler’ of a very rich south eastern oil ‘state’ that once owned a hotel on Park Lane and is a good friend of heir to
    the throne !!

  94. 29 Feb: Telegraph: Janet Daley: Jenny Tonge loses the Lib Dem whip for anti-Israel rant – and about time too
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/janetdaley/100140506/jenni-tong-loses-the-libdem-whip-for-anti-israel-rant-and-about-time-too/

    supposedly 3 comments, but they won’t open for me, so don’t know what was written, but comments are closed now anyway.

  95. Oddie. Give me one Jenny Tonge for a million Janet Daleys.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Daley
    .
    She is expert at conveying the messages for the USUKIsNATO axis and is always on the box spouting forth. I see that she has a connection to Buckingham ‘University’ (private) where Geoffrey Alderman, arch Zionist, also resides.

    Liberal Democrat Voice have not taken my and several others’ comments. So liberal and so democratic! A ghastly crowd.

    Huhne,about to stand trial for perversion of the coourse of justice, has helped himself to a £17,000 severance pay award. Mo morals. Mo scruples. And he is supposed to be a multi millionaire.
    .
    Ex-minister Chris Huhne getting £17,000 cabinet pay-off
    Chris Huhne resigned as energy secretary earlier this month
    .
    Former energy secretary Chris Huhne is claiming a £17,000 pay-off after leaving the cabinet to fight charges of perverting the course of justice.

    The Cabinet Office confirmed Mr Huhne would receive a severance payment of three months of his ministerial salary.
    /..
    {http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17202387}

    Ministers are entitled to such payouts when they leave, but these are not automatic and the MP must claim them.

    Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said it was a decision the Liberal Democrat had taken “alone”.

    “It’s his decision. It’s an individual decision. He’s decided to take that severance pay,” he told LBC radio.

  96. The question that is exercising the mind of the Toryraph’s Chief Political Correspondent is whether or not Cameron rode the police horse that the Met loaned to Brooks.
    .
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/9114510/Downing-Street-still-refuses-to-say-whether-David-Cameron-rode-Rebekah-Brooks-horse.html
    .
    The story was carried on the previous day but the photo then was of a white horse.

  97. Passerby you said
    “1- There is no British National Transitional Council.
    2- There is No British Free Army.
    3- No UN resolutions in support of the above.
    4- civil Disobedience is incitement to insurrection and before the chaps know, they have been shoved into a cell, out of a job, caught for drunk driving, their adulterous affairs made headlines of the tabloids, in the worst case scenario shoved under the tube, or even worse than worse than (Teutonic accent required) zhat Dr. Kelly-ed or stiffed and put into a hold all adorned in bondage gear.”

    Who needs a national transitional council? Or a UN resolution, which would be nobbled in any case. My point is that Unions are pussy cats, utter simpletons, it refelcts how much they do know about the various acts that have been passed to muzzle protest.
    The fact that they are calling for it to happen at a time and place when London is swarming with tourists and when any cause under the sun will be highlighted by NGO’s, has not cropped his tiny union braincell.

    But, he has announced it to his leftleaning friends and lifestyle socialists with enough time for them to chat about it, get arrested and put on ice for the duration of the Olympics, what a chap, so useless and so prominent, wonder what they have on Mc Clusky for him to be so uncaring/unhelpfull to his fellow uninists and campaigners.
    I suppose he will be sitting up every night in meetings and plan his little ‘catch the anarchists’ game with his media infested Met friends.

  98. Rob Royston

    1 Mar, 2012 - 9:07 am

    If that horse could talk, what tales it could tell. It deserves our sympathy.

  99. Need Specsavers! Huhne – No morals. No scruples.

  100. Neil Saunders

    1 Mar, 2012 - 10:47 am

    I can only agree with Mary on Jenny Tonge. Why is there such an ‘orchestra’ against her when so little is said about Senator Lindsey Graham’s ‘I want to destroy Iran’ comment on
    ‘Face the Nation’. But then then they did award an Iranian film with an Oscar !!

    Back on topic it would be interesting to hear Craig’s take on Somalia and the whole ‘Arab
    (more like ‘Magreb Spring’) being a repeat of the ‘Sramble for Africa’ given his recent travel. An interesting piece appeared in the Tanzanian ‘Citizen’ by Amengeo in this vein.

  101. Ingo,
    Your sense of irony has a taken a retrograde step back into the German mode. That was the whole point of the bloody comment, don’t you think that the moron who is calling for this kind of “action” is doing so under instructions?
    ,
    The wild cat days are gone, now for any kind of “protest” you need to apply in triplicate to various authorities and get a permission slip before you can even step outside of your home or there will be a control order slapped on your butt quicker than you can say; Control Order!
    ,
    BTW do you remember the good old Joe the snitch Gormley?
    ,
    ,
    ,
    Mary,
    Having met Jenny I agree with you, however I would not change a jenny for a million Janets, I may think about changing a hair of Jenny for a million Janets.
    ,
    So far as the Huhne affair goes, does it not remind of the court of Mubarak kind of a setup?
    ,
    ,
    Neil Saunders,
    Senator Lindsey Graham’s ‘I want to destroy Iran’ comment on
    ‘Face the Nation’

    The good senator in the pay of AIPAC is only doing his job genuflecting to the wishes of the Isreal.
    ,
    What a world do we live in? Has evil triumphed over good? Has Satan defeated God? Whereupon right and good are persecuted, punished, and wrong and evil are lauded and promoted?

  102. Uzbek in the UK

    1 Mar, 2012 - 12:19 pm

    @ Mark Golding – Children of Iraq

    .
    Well done Mark.
    .
    Keep writing to Mr Putin and let us know if his KGB excellence responds to you. Just bear in mind that you are writing to the man who advocates one of the most brutal regimes in the world and acting quick to prevent any type of positive developments in post USSR.
    .
    With regards to his so called Putin’s assassination attempt, may I suggest to you reading something on assassination of Comrade Kirov (Stalin’s right hand) and also fortunately not materialized so called “Doctors Case” in Russian “Delo Vrachey” when NKVD (KGB’s predecessor) was planning yet another purge of senior Communist Party members and Soviet inteligencia. Time passes by but KGB never changes despite whatever it is called.

  103. Uzbek in the UK

    1 Mar, 2012 - 12:28 pm

    @ Fedup
    .
    And I presume you have never heard of Chechen’s deportation in 1930th when it is believed that over half million of Chechens died.
    .
    And I also presume that you have never heard of 150 years old of Russian war in Caucasus (mainly with Chechens).
    .
    And I also presume that you have never heard that Basaev’s (now assassinated Chechen commander) war in Dagestan was planned and directed from Lubyanka (KGB/FSB headquarter).
    .
    Yes, I presume that ignoring all above and much more you can ONLY blame Uncle Sam for over million of Chechen death.

  104. Uzbek in the UK

    1 Mar, 2012 - 12:53 pm

    @ Mark Golding
    .
    Well Chechnya is not just trap for Putin but at some point in the past (2001 to be precise) served solely to boost his Acting President rating. He was not very much known before departed Yeltcin decided to step down from Kremlin throne and pass affairs to Putin. Only after Putin managed to evict Chechen rebels from Dagestan (that as mentioned to Fedup was planned and directed from KGB/FSB) and started second military campaign in Chechnya Putin’s rating rocketed and despite being former KBG officer he was elected to be president with overwhelming majority back in 2001.
    .
    You might also want to look up organization and execution of bombings of two residential apartment blocks in Moscow in 2001 (that some in Russia consider to be planned and executed by KGB) to lay foundations to second military campaign in Chechnya.
    .
    All in all I am very disappointed by your actions and even more by your incentives of portraying Putin as a good guy. To fight one evil with even worse evil is proven to be dangerous gamble.

  105. Uzbek in the UK
    Yes, I presume that ignoring all above and much more you can ONLY blame Uncle Sam for over million of Chechen death.
    ,
    Back on the day shift, going for it then. Uncle Sam has been killing enough million of; Korean, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Iraqi, Afghanis, Libyans, …… it never got the time to to go Chechnya to do the job itself.
    ,
    So far as your anti Russian and anti Iran sentiments, and pro US, Isreal propaganda goes, anyone ever posting on this board knows your brand of reactionary politics that can only be thought of by a provincial pots.
    ,
    Stop harassing Mark with your numerous postings without so much as waiting for the first one to be answered.

  106. Uzbek in the UK

    1 Mar, 2012 - 2:37 pm

    @ Passerby
    .
    I see you too in all your glory of salivating a debate.
    .
    I am not harassing Mark but just noting my objection and disappointment with his views on Putin and his confusion over issues that are in fact not the same as he understands them.
    .
    Talking about Uncle Sam’s sins one should not forget millions killed by Russian’s-Soviets including Russian’s-Soviets themselves. I understand that you have no respect for freedom of choice and for self determination of people and that your blatant hatred of US imperial ambitions blinded you from distinguishing between one evil and another. I understand that for you all those who oppose US are good irrespectively of their own merits.
    .
    Let me know if I am wrong about you.

  107. Just like to say… Jenny. I like your balls.

  108. Uzbek in the UK
    piss off with your “salivating”, and “barking” shit. You seem to believe that you can abuse others and get away it, listen provi boy, this aint going to be, Capisce?
    ,
    So far as the tally of murder goes, no entity can even rival; the corrupt and blood thirsty US, stop peppering the board with your unreasonable hatred of Russia and all things Eastern. USSR is gone and buried, somehow in your sick mind you live the past in the present.
    ,
    There is no empire other than the evil US Empire and if you cannot see that, then you are indeed in need of some psychiatric attention. Your repetitive whines that mirror the official lines of propaganda in the “media”, are much more suited in the Sun among your own peer group of Sun Readers, who will be pleased about your handy work.

  109. This crap appeared recently on the BBC website.
    Experts delay call on releasing controversial H5N1 work
    Research into the H5N1 virus has to be carried out in highly controlled conditions
    .
    Editor’s concern over bird flu
    Bird flu ‘censorship’ decision
    Mutant bird flu research halted
    .
    Experts have delayed a decision on whether controversial research into the H5N1 bird flu virus should be released.
    .
    At issue is how the work could be released while guarding against its abuse by bioterrorists
    .
    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/17078818
    .
    Wait for a new flu type vaccine and anti-viral to appear so that BigPharma make another killing like last time.**
    .
    Must not let the terrrrrists get the formula. What nonsense. In the same vein as that odious Peter Clark late of the Met who told Leveson today that he cancelled an inquiry into phone hacking in 2006 because he had a big terrrrrism problem following the 7/7 ‘bombs’. Yates followed on line from Bahrain where he is a government adviser as crawler Nicholas Witchell so kindly told us.
    .
    ** {http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202389/Government-virus-expert-paid-116k-swine-flu-vaccine-manufacturers.html}

  110. Ref my earlier post with Banksy’s comments on advertising, I see that WPP (Martin Sorrell) have made record profits.
    1 March 2012
    .
    WPP profits reach record in 2011
    Sir Martin said there could be a tougher trading climate in 2013
    WPP benefits from market problems
    .
    The world’s largest advertising group, WPP, has reported record profits, and says events such as the Olympics should boost business this year.
    .
    Pre-tax profits were £1.008bn in 2011, up 18.5% on the previous year, with revenues topping £10bn.
    .
    WPP said that 2011 had been a record “on virtually whatever measure you care to name”.
    .
    Fast-growing markets in Asia Pacific, Latin America and the Middle East saw revenue growth of 12% or more.
    .
    The company said the UK had performed strongly, against market trends, but the rest of Western Europe proved more difficult.
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17217362
    .
    Here is Sorrell at the UK Israel Business Breakfast. June 2011
    {http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.240973219257971.60572.191758617512765&type=3}

  111. Uzbek in the UK

    1 Mar, 2012 - 3:22 pm

    @ Passerby
    .
    May I remind you that it was in fact you who started abusing others who disagree with you. Instead of arguing on substance you prefer to abuse your opponents and blame them being Zionists.
    .
    It is not much an issue who killed more (although even here Russia/USSR/Russia again fells slightly behind US) but as much as current Russian KGB led leadership is not in any matter, morally or otherwise, better than US.
    .
    And trust me on this one – my hatred toward Putin is NOT unreasonable. If you ever lived in USSR/Uzbekistan you would have understood me better. As I say here you again clearly demonstrate your carelessness towards freedom of choice and self determination. You in fact support only those REGIMES that oppose US. Note here REGIMES not people.
    .
    On past vs present issue, I believe that it was Oscar Wilde who said that ‘One’s past is what one is. It is the only way by which people should be judged.’ I presume that the same applies to the empires.

  112. Yates of the Yard at Leveson. Famous for his ‘handling’ of Bliar’s cash for honours scandal.
    .
    NoW journalist was urged to call in favours from Yard boss
    Tom Harper
    1 Mar 2012
    .

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24040095-now-journalist-was-urged-to-call-in-favours-from-yard-boss.do

  113. This comes under you cannot make this up category:
    ,
    Syrian rebels reportedly retreat from Bab Amr in face of army onslaught
    ,
    Firstly, the “activists” are now relabeled as rebels. the photograph shows an Earth and sand bag barricade, in front of a damaged building that sports a fluttering flag of the old Syria.
    ,
    The decision of the rebels for tactical withdrawal from the Bab Amr suburb of Homs, over with, the article plaintively goes on about the relentless onslaught of the Syrian Army, that has prompted the rebels’ decision.
    ,
    Then it follows;
    In a statement posted on a Facebook page run by Bab Amr activists, the rebels cited dire humanitarian conditions in the area and called on the Red Cross to be allowed to deliver humanitarian aid to an estimated 4,000 civilians who remain trapped in the neighborhood.
    ,
    “We, the Bab Amr brigade, have decided to strategically withdraw for the sake of the civilians remaining inside the neighborhood,” the statement said. “The humanitarian situation is at its worst, as there is no food whatsoever, no medicines, no water and no electricity. There is no communication in the area thus making matters much worse.”
    ,
    The statement added: “We are also lacking in enough arms to defend the civilians.”

    ,
    Apparently the activists, who are telepathically in contact with the rebels (remember there is no communications) are relaying the message of the rebels, who have been hiding among the civilians and taking shots at the Syrian army are lacking enough weapons to to defend the civilians from the army targeting the rebels hiding among them.
    ,
    How can this contradictory shit be passed as journalism? (note the source)

  114. Uzbek in the UK: I’m not sure Passerby gives two hoots about US imperialism, unless it’s to wish it were being conducted by people in pointy white hats. What he seems to ‘hate’ – feel scared of/wish to attack – is this board. Or perhaps he is just bored! In any case, as you so well say about Putin, acting quick to prevent any positive developments, and in this case, trying to blow a smokescreen of spleen and nonsense around the facts.

    I’m not sure why the understanding that one bloody-handed cheating tyrant
    is much the same as another can be such a hard one, but perhaps many well-meaning people are genuinely unaware of Putin’s track record, for example.

  115. Uzbek in the UK,
    You are still going on about: the past, gone , finished, over and done with, and further still resurrecting Oscar Wild, into the bargain.
    ,
    Your personal experience of “freedoms” or lack thereof means jack shit to the poor bastards who are getting bombed daily by the current Evil empire US. Your take on all matters have been frozen in time and your world view is based on this static notions that have no relevance to the current matters of life or death that is facing vast swathes of humanity because of the untethered and out of hand US.
    ,
    the cost of your penchant for “freedom” somehow is born not by you, but the poor widows and orphans in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Saudi, Bahrain, Syria, Gaza, West Bank, Somalia, Libya,……….. . Stop lecturing me about the evils of USSR, it is in the past.
    ,
    Move on with the times and stop seeing US through your rose tinted glasses, US is a bully and all bullies are vile and despicable regardless of their banter and attributes.

  116. Old Lag,
    Stop projecting your own sentiments onto others. “pointy white hats”, wow! Did you write that one all by yourself or did someone else helped you? The extent of unconscious drivel only too well manifested by reference to KKK!

  117. Uzbek In The UK,
    .
    You are writing about good and evil and you have given me examples in your posts. I have to admit I am blinded by this absolute concept. Evil to me is a lack of good, in the same way as darkness is a lack of light.
    .
    Thus you are wrong about me.
    .
    In an earlier post I committed myself and concluded that the direction of foreign policy, that path the West is taking, can only lead to destruction and death, regardless of fights, crusades, warfare or campaigns that have gone before. I not only have to be accountable for such a dire vision of the future, I must try to avert it, in my own way.
    .
    I am therefore committed to gathering my resolve and attempt to change the direction of others blinded by their own vision of utopia, a right that exists for all of us and a responsibility I must now bear.
    .
    Sorry for your disappointment.

  118. Uzbek in the UK

    1 Mar, 2012 - 4:45 pm

    @ Passerby
    .
    I am not type of person who looks at anything through pink glasses, including you.
    .
    The facts is that US current foreign policy is pretty much the same as Roman and British imperial policies which is typically divide and rule. The only slight but nonetheless important difference is that US wherever it is possible bring slight positive change at least in term of government legitimacy. One can solely blame US for death of Iraqies and overlook the fact that Iraq for instance was artificial state borders of which have been drawn decades before US invasion and thousand miles from Baghdad.
    .
    The fact is that although Putin opposes US foreign policy, but this is not because Putin is concerned with all those killed by US drone attacks or assassinated or tortured by US, but because he himself (and those KGB) possess the same objective as US, such as divide and rule. In fact Putin uses divide and rule more successfully than US, although on a smaller scale.
    .
    Therefore any appeals to Putin to come to rescue of the world from US reminds me somewhat arguments that were made by some in Britain and France at the start of 1930th when it was argued that Hitler would ensure that Germany remains non Communist (which turned out to be true for sometime) and that in future Germany would serve as good ally against Communist Russia (which turned out to be failure).

  119. Its not about what governments are doing its what they are not doing.

  120. Ben Franklin

    1 Mar, 2012 - 5:14 pm

    Pouring through the Wikileaks on Stratfor…found this nugget.

    http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/387684_-windows-1252-b.html
    An Al Jazeera English video report explained the Icelandic Modern Media
    Initiative in March.

    At 4 a.m. on Thursday, at the end of an all-night session, Iceland’s
    Parliament, the Althing, voted unanimously in favor of a package of
    legislation aimed at making the country a haven for freedom of
    expression by offering legal protection to whistle-blower Web sites like
    WikiLeaks, which helped to craft the proposal.

    As the Web site Ice News reports, “One of the inspirations for the
    proposal was the dramatic August 2009 gagging of of Iceland’s national
    broadcaster, RUV by Iceland’s then largest bank, Kaupthing.”

    One of the sponsors of the proposal in the Althing, Birgitta Jonsdottir,
    told my colleague Noam Cohen in February that Iceland hoped to become
    “the inverse of a tax haven,” by offering journalists and publishers
    some of the most aggressive protections for free speech and
    investigative journalism in the world. “They are trying to make
    everything opaque,” she said. “We are trying to make it transparent.”

    As Mr. Cohen explained in an article on the package of laws that passed
    on Thursday:

    The proposal, the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative, combines in a
    single piece of legislation provisions from around the world:
    whistle-blower laws and rules about Internet providers from the United
    States; source protection laws from Belgium; freedom of information laws
    from Estonia and Scotland, among others; and New York State’s law to
    counteract “libel tourism,” the practice of suing in courts, like
    Britain’s, where journalists have the hardest time prevailing. […]”

  121. In case they get a little peckish or in case the royal rations run out, these two old dears and the newcomer are each given a hamper by Fortnum & Mason (good advertising F&M!)
    .
    http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58816000/jpg/_58816468_hamper.jpg
    .
    The queen is looking at what the others have got to make sure she is not losing out.

  122. There is a suggestion that Baroness Amos is sent in to Syria by the UN Security Council.
    The ante against Assad is well and truly being upped by USUKIsNATO.
    .
    Syria crisis: UN demands Valerie Amos (be) let into country
    The UN Security Council is demanding immediate access to Syria for its humanitarian chief, Valerie Amos.
    .
    Russia and China, who vetoed two previous Security Council resolutions on Syria, are also backing the call for Baroness Amos to be allowed in.
    .
    It comes as the rebel Free Syrian Army said it was withdrawing from the Baba Amr district of Homs, which has been under siege for nearly a month.
    .
    Activists say hundreds of people have died during the bombardment.
    .
    Earlier, the International Committee of the Red Cross said it and the Syrian Red Crescent had been given the green light to go to Baba Amr on Friday to deliver food and medical supplies.
    .
    In a statement, the council expressed its “disappointment” that Baroness Amos had not been granted authorisation to visit Syria.
    .
    The council’s 15 member countries also said in a unanimously agreed statement that they “deplore” the rapidly deteriorating humanitarian situation in the country.
    .
    On Wednesday, Baroness Amos, who heads the UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs, said she had been refused permission by the Syrian authorities to enter the country.
    .
    The UN estimates more than 7,500 people have died in an 11-month anti-government uprising.
    .
    ~~~~~~
    This is an extract of Craig’s account of her previous activities in an article entitled ‘NuLab Freeloaders Steal From The Starving’. http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/05/nulab_freeloade/
    .
    ‘Valerie Amos is the very antithesis of a democratic politician. One of the Blair inner circle, she rose to Cabinet rank despite never having faced the electorate. Never, ever, at any level of politics. Her entire career was based upon New Labour internal patronage after making a very good living out of complaining about discrimination against minorities in the UK. She opened up a substantial income gap between herself and those on whose behalf she was claiming to work, from a very early stage, and that gap has widened ever since.
    .
    All this came back to me as I looked at Baroness Amos quaffing champagne on that plane. So I did a bit of digging. Valerie Amos is indeed listed on their website as a non-executive director of Travant Private Equity, one of only five directors. There is nothing about developmental goals, ethics, or the environment on the website. There is a lot about real estate opportunities in West Africa (by which they do not mean housing for the urban poor), and a boast that they have “the largest fundraising from domestic investors in sub-Saharan Africa”. Remember what I said about the sources of local capital formation? Now Travant may have the most rigorous procedures for scrutinising the origin of the domestic money deposited with them. But if they do, they do not mention it on their website. Rather they emphasise that “we are deeply immersed in the business communities in which we invest”. Mmmm.’

    .

  123. Ruth:
    .
    “I don’t think Cameron’s and Hague’s activism on Somalia is so sudden. It appears the UK has been laying out plans for Somalia for quite a while.
    .
    http://szamko.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/somali-pirates-directed-by-british-consultants/
    .
    Ha – I’ve been saying for a couple of years that there was something fishy (excuse the pun) about these Somali “pirates”. I had no evidence, it just seemed improbable that in the modern age a bunch of knuckle-heads in trawlers could disrupt global oil supplies.
    .
    More and more, I’m trusting my hunches, even though as far as everyone I know is concerned I’m a paranoid conspiracy freak.

  124. Why cant we have censorship in Britain.
    .
    The Syrian government is fighting for the right to be able to give censorship for the good of its people.

    Look at Hollywood.
    Look at the papers and magazines
    Look at our society.
    Debauchery.

    I want Fascist censorship to protect my family.

    Our leaders can go `fuck` themselves they havent a clue.

  125. I concur the more I see hear of it.
    .
    More a concentration camp than an Olympic olive grove
    Published: 1 March, 2012
    .
    • I agree with Dan Carrier and Ian Sinclair (Review, February 23) that the poet William Blake would have been horrified by the Olympic Village at Stratford.
    .
    The electrified fence, the CCTV cameras, the checkpoints, the broken Eiffel Tower, the lack of broad cycle tracks, the lack of the sight of semi-naked, fleet-footed, runners on paths sweeping past ponds, groves of trees and grass banks leading down to the River Lee Navigation, would have made him weep.
    .
    The fence would have reminded him of Peterloo, George III, and all that he held most vile, The Olympic committees have had five years to plant trees and establish a beautiful environment along the Lee valley.
    .
    In their ignorance of the original Olympic site and its olive groves and the Greek desire to honour the gods with beautiful statues and temples, they have established an environment that looks something like a concentration camp.
    .
    It is to be hoped that at the end of this exercise Londoners will be able to claim back a good stretch of the Lee valley, and turn it into a park that we can all enjoy, before it is all grabbed by large companies.
    .
    Nicholas Wood FRGS, NW3
    .
    http://www.camdennewjournal.com/letters/2012/mar/more-concentration-camp-olympic-olive-grove

  126. Franz,
    Once you know what the intelligence services get up to and how they operate, it’s really quite logical to assume they are directing the Somali pirates both for the acquisition of funds and preparing the ground for future intervention in Somalia to secure resources and the region.

  127. DownWithThisSortOfThing

    2 Mar, 2012 - 6:32 am

    That old black magic, witchcraft, is getting the media spotlight thrown upon it. Apparently it is very uncivilized and barbaric, in-human even. Part of the culture you understand. No doubt there will be some ‘news’ soon about Africa’s intolerance towards Gay people, their endemic corruption or their religious extremism.
    .
    I guess the message is that a few peace and democracy bombs are not to be objected to should the need arise to kill these ‘bad types’ of Africans.

  128. “as far as everyone I know is concerned I’m a paranoid conspiracy freak.”
    .
    I’ve coined a word: somnoia := the state of mind of people who think that nothing is a conspiracy, and fail to notice that the bastards really are out to get them.

  129. DownWithThisSortOfThing

    2 Mar, 2012 - 7:07 am

    @Mary More a concentration camp than an Olympic olive grove
    .
    I googled images for “olympic village Stratford fence” to see what it looked like. I clicked on the fifth or sixth image because it was one of the few street level images of the village that was not rendered by a computer. I was then taken to The Telegraph but the image has been replaced with one of the common aerial shots. However, you do get to see the full size original in the ‘preview’ box before the article is displayed, and it is looks very unimpressive.
    .
    It seems someone was not happy with the original image and so had it replaced. It’s odd how petty, and sensitive, media management is about the portrayal of reality concerning the Olympics. I’m starting to get a millennium domey feeling about these games.

  130. The vilification of Lib Dem Jenny Tonge for her stance against the policies of Netanyahu’s rogue regime is going into full flow. The FoI are in full persecution mode and showiin g the extent of grip they already have over British foreign policy, cue next a few supportive words by Barak for Britains disproportionate responses over the latest Falkland spat.

    This reaction to her supportive words for Palestinian’s and their plight against the fascists responses Israel is dealing out to all and sundry, including children, have been criticised by many in the Lib Dem Party, the BBC and by a cacopheny of FoI stooges in and out of Government, making it officially the third fully nobbled party and leaving not a single choice at the next general election.

    I shall write to the FoI managers of the Today programme, not that my disapproving note will make a difference. Those of us who believe/d that the british public will wake up to this lolloby of insipid foreign intrusion into its affairs, have been dreaming.

    reports of a general waking up of the people to the mismanagment and take over of the FCO by Israels interest, before all others, have been grossly exagerated.

  131. The ArcelorMittal tower just about sums it up. The result of a chance encounter by Boris in a Davos cloakroom!
    .
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/apr/09/arcelormittal-anish-kapoor-orbit?intcmp=239
    .
    The entry points are long metal tunnels worthy of the checkpoints found in Occupied Palestine.
    .
    These were the instructions for arriving at the recent aqua centre event. The organisers are obviously very worried about terrorism. The whole thing seem to be brutalist.
    .
    ‘On arrival at the designated entry point, spectators
    will be asked to pass through a screening area before
    using the dedicated walking route. If, for any reason, a
    spectator refuses to go through the security screening
    area, they will not be permitted access into the Park and
    will not be offered a refund.
    .
    Any bags that are brought into the venue must be small,
    soft sided and be able to fit under seating. There are no
    cloakroom services available.
    .
    Reasonable quantities of food and un-opened drinks
    containers (not glass) in original packaging are permitted.’
    .
    Third Reich had nothing on Coe’s lot.

  132. I heard it too Ingo. Halfon is described as a Conservative MP in the blurb. No mention of Friends of Israel. He had the last word of course with the attack on Hamas and the rockets. I noted he used the phrase ‘conspiracy theories’ at least three times.
    .
    She did pretty well I thought.

    .
    The link usually becomes live at around 9.30
    .
    0733
    Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Tonge has resigned after provoking an outcry by saying that Israel “is not going to be there forever in its present form”. She explains why she is standing by her remarks, while Conservative MP Robert Halfon explains why it was right that she stepped down.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/listen_again/default.stm

    .
    Halfon initially worked as Chief of Staff for the Conservative MP Oliver Letwin and as Political Director for Conservative Friends of Israel. He contested the Harlow seat in both 2001 and 2005, losing by just 97 votes on the second occasion. After the 2010 general election, he was elected to the executive of the 1922 Committee of backbench Conservative MPs. He made his maiden speech on 2 June 2010. On 19 July 2010 he hosted the launch of the Friends of Israel Initiative at the House of Commons.

  133. Lorna bids a sudden farewell to Bicom
    March 1, 2012
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    The chief executive of the UK’s top Israel pressure group is to step down to “pursue new opportunities”, after almost six years at the helm
    http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/64385/lorna-bids-a-sudden-farewell-bicom
    .
    I see that she is being held accountable for the loss of Israel’s popularity. The unnamed ‘community leader’ forgets about Cast Lead, the Mavi Marmara and the everyday atrocities perpetrated on the Palestinians which receive more coverage than used to be the case.

  134. Half on and half off, thats Roberts greatest problem, he is a mouthpiece for the conspirators that are diverting Britains foreign policy goals, who value Israels foreign policy goals before ours or that of our allies in NATO or EU partners and are willing to let British soldiers die for these goals.

    This is what will not appear on the Guardian blog, shall send a copy to the Today programme as well.

    “Jenny Tonge’s vilification by the friends of israel in all three parties opens the questions as to who is running our foreign policy. William Hagues membership of this illusive but powerfull lobby group within all three main parties, since he was 15 years old, speaks volumnes, so does the disappearance of Adam Werritty and/or the lack of debate over his unprecedented high access to all parties, or his many meetings he had with ambassador Gould, Britains first ever appointed jewish ambassador to Israel. Sadly G’oD’s report over these meetings was inaccurate and has left out many important meetings betwen the two.
    Jenny Tonge is right to question those who malign and divert the course of Britains foreign policy and its resolve, who consider israels foreign policy goals before our own and that of our allies in NATO or that of our European partners.”

  135. Libyan rebels cage black Africans in zoo, force feed them flags (SHOCK VIDEO)
    http://rt.com/news/libya-rebels-torture-africans-679/

  136. The link is live now. A little extra padding out of Halfon’s remarks in the blurb.
    .
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9701000/9701612.stm

  137. Hacked Stratfor emails suggest Bin Laden’s body was brought to the USA
    http://www.thejournal.ie/wikileaks-emails-suggest-bin-laden-corpse-brought-to-america-371301-Mar2012/

  138. Jenny Tonge’s speech. Note the hecklers. They do not like hearing the truth.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCeCCoQ3XdA&feature=related

  139. Off Topic: worth a read, goto Orfder-order.com.

    check out the article Justice must be seen to be done’. You will find a pdf, related to a super injunction related i believe to the sultan of Brunei.

  140. Trivial but indicative of the man that, several days later, he owns up. An example of his ability to mislead too.
    .
    Trying to hide your close assocations with the Murdoch crowd David? And what is Andy Coulson doing nowadays?
    .
    David Cameron: I did ride police horse loaned to Brooks
    Mr Cameron says he has no plans to get back in the saddle
    .
    Brooks loan horse in ‘poor’ state
    Police lent horse to Sun editor
    .
    David Cameron has confirmed he did ride a horse which police lent to former Sun editor Rebekah Brooks.
    .
    He apologised for allowing a “confusing picture” over the issue to emerge after days of speculation.
    .
    News that London’s police force lent Mrs Brooks a horse emerged as inquiries continue into the relationship between News International and the Met.
    .
    Mr Cameron joked that he did not think he would be “getting back into the saddle any time soon.”
    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17231308

  141. One of the Sultan’s ex-wives, according to the witness statement, alleges that her former hubby funded Al Quaeda [whatever that is] & that he had prior warning of the 7/7 bombings.

    I wish to ask, since nobody else seems to have done so:
    .
    Were Messrs Hayman, Yates & Clarke — or anyone else for that matter involved in waging on our behalf the War on Terror — able to spare any time off from their strenuous investigations of the Michelin & Good Food Guides detailed in such lip-smacking detail before Lord Justice Leveson yesterday, in order to interview the purveyor of these most astonishing allegations concerning national security? And if not, why not??
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    http://bit.ly/AjVnBf

  142. Mary, Ingo,
    It is really infuriating to see Jenny heckled by a bunch of numskulls, who are pretty aggressive in trying to shut her up. This is the reason I cannot stand the ziofuckwit, these evil operatives have no humanity about them. Their hive mentality is totally shut off to the outside world, and their inane hostility towards any outsider cannot be breached in any way.
    ,
    As Jenny rightly started by poi8nting out the all too worn out “anti sem…” label used as the weapon of choice to shut up the opponents of the apartheid theocratic regime and discredit these, the aggressive little twerp pipping from the background to ask; “who are they?” is the stuff that sets the ziofuckwit aside.
    ,
    It is truly lamentable to see that even on this board people fall for the dog and pony show of the ziofuckwits who are perceived to be engaged in debate and exchange of Ideas. No zoifuckwit will ever change their view, or snap out of their hive minds, these can only regurgitate the plethora of the material (Hasbara Handbook, films, stories, GIUYS, etc) that has been prepared for them to spew in any meeting/board/gathering/demonstrations to supplement the immersion propaganda lines that is fed to the people at large in a bid for continuance of the illegitimate theocratic apartheid regime for a while longer.
    ,
    The shit bag who was heckling and calling Jenny a liar, and accusing her of spreading lies, has the audacity to do so and get away with it, because the world has allowed itself to be cowed by these fuckwits. The ziofuckwit have figured that goyim are too stupid to learn and they can be manipulated to the ends of time.

  143. Uzbek: You might also want to look up organization and execution of bombings of two residential apartment blocks in Moscow in 2001 (that some in Russia consider to be planned and executed by KGB) to lay foundations to second military campaign in Chechnya.

    .
    I’ve heard a bit about this stuff and some of it does sound compelling. I think that Patrick Cockburn also reported on the strangeness of these apartment bombings and he is a reporter I have a lot of respect for. And yet… and yet… just like the accusations that Assad was behind “false flag” attacks in Damascus recently, I have to be skeptical. These types of things are crossing a major line even for most “patriots” who may need their reasons for conducting a war and they seem to me to be far too unreliable in their consequences for sane people to enact. The death of Anna Politkovskaya, on the other hand, is something that I can well believe that either he or a friendly gangster of the Kremlin or of its Chechen puppet is behind. Then again, Politkovskaya had pissed off a LOT of very dangerous people in Russia and there could well have been others who were behind it. I do wonder how fervently the Russian state is investigating her death. Anyone know?

  144. Vronsky: I’ve coined a word: somnoia := the state of mind of people who think that nothing is a conspiracy, and fail to notice that the bastards really are out to get them.

    .
    If it doesn’t take off you can blame “THEM” for suppressing it! :P

  145. So much for crime & the causes of crime. Again:
    .
    Indication comes via top cop that Blair & internal security boss Reid connived in massive crime coverup. And that fear-filled NuLab cabinet ministers Blunkett, Prescott & Jowell refused to help police with their ‘enquiries':
    .
    http://bit.ly/ADprAJ

  146. Uzbek in the UK

    2 Mar, 2012 - 3:04 pm

    @ Angrysoba.
    .
    Well, there are many more serious crimes that KGB has committed (and most of them against its own citizens) than blowing up few residential building.
    .
    If you look carefully at this particular one you see that bombings occurred in one months in several locations and followed Basaev’s invasion to Dagestan and start of second Russian war in Chechnya. Bombings of those building is not similar to other terror acts (bombings in underground, airport etc) and required large amount of explosives not only to be prepared but also delivered and stuffed in apartments buildings basements. Doing this in Moscow in particular without alerting KGB is virtually impossible even considering concentration of Chechen criminals in Moscow and also considering that all of them from the start of first Russian was in Chechnya have been closely monitored (and often used) by KGB. But the most convincing argument in support of KGB involvement is that it was very well played by Putin to stipulate his image as strong leader (remember his phrase “if we find terrorist in the loo we will kill him even there”) and also gave Kremlin moral excuse and encouragement in support of Second war in Chechnya (particularly considering unpopularity of first war amongst Russians).
    .
    As for Politkovskaya’s case investigation is has not changed since assassins’ name have been revealed. The case which is to be heard soon will be concentrated on statements from former Moscow Criminal Police officer who was found guilty in coordinating assassination. His statement is that assassination was ordered by Boris Berezovskiy (former Russian oligarch and now sworn enemy of Putin) who thought that assassination of high profile critic such as Politkovskaya would action the same wave of protests against Putin as took place in Urkaine after the assassination of Gongadze which culminated in Orange Revolution. Go figure.

  147. Accountability, not on your Nelly;
    ,
    To circumvent any kind of intrusion into his murky world, Gove has been communicating with his advisors, about the business of government: through made up, and personal email account.
    ,
    Reports last September suggested that Mr Gove had been using a private email account named “Mrs Blurt” rather than his departmental account to discuss government business with advisers.
    ,
    Mr Gove has been resisting the release of the information on the grounds that ministers’ personal email accounts are not covered by the Act.

    ,
    Education Secretary Michael Gove does not wish to Blurt his departmental Business soon as they get there, suddenly they all become aristocrats, and behave like a one too.

  148. Uzbek in the UK

    2 Mar, 2012 - 3:36 pm

    Mark Golding
    .
    You seem to be good man, no question about it. It is therefore I am disappointed by your appeal to Putin. It is of course our duty to avert tragedy particularly when it claims lives of innocent people. But yet again, why appeal to Putin? Is your vision of good (or better) for the West is what is happening in Russia under Putin? Would you prefer for the West to deal with Iraq and Afghanistan (and possibly with Syria) the same way Putin dealt with Chechnya? I see no point in averting evil by encouraging another evil to step in. Or do you think that Putin cares for lives of others (oppressed by the US)? I doubt it, he does not even cares for lives of Russians.

  149. Uzbek in the UK,
    This is what you have written;
    The facts is that US current foreign policy is pretty much the same as Roman and British imperial policies which is typically divide and rule. The only slight but nonetheless important difference is that US wherever it is possible bring slight positive change at least in term of government legitimacy. One can solely blame US for death of Iraqies and overlook the fact that Iraq for instance was artificial state borders of which have been drawn decades before US invasion and thousand miles from Baghdad.
    ,
    How do you square up this kind of hotchpotch in your mind?
    ,
    On one hand, you find the approval of the empire, as “legitimization” of any government ie slaves hood is the only way to be. Whilst also automatically extending the imperial legitimacy to Isreal, the illegitimate theocratic apartheid. However, you then making the quantum leap onto Iraq as an “artificial” state, in effect discount the millions dead, millions more made into refugees, and even more millions made into salves/second class citizens/outsourced labour in their own lands!!!
    ,
    What are you on man?
    ,
    You have contradicted your oh so “Freedom” zest, whilst genuflecting to the Empire. You seem to be blissfully unaware: there can be no positive in any empire, it is an unnatural, artificial, uncompetitive, construct that relies on the base concept of application of force, and even more force.
    ,
    Nonetheless, you then start carping on about Putin, and Chechenya, reiterating the standard “Media” fair as your own thoughts.
    ,
    How do you adduce any of this crap that you then publish on this board?

  150. Rat leaving a sinking ship?
    .
    BREAKING NEWS:David Cameron’s adviser Steve Hilton is leaving Downing Street for a year to take an academic position in the United States

  151. One that will interest you here Ingo.
    .
    Letter to Eastern Daily Press on Archant executive pay, declined by the editor
    Posted by IanS on March 2, 2012, 1:25 pm
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    Below is a letter that I recently sent to the Eastern Daily Press, which the Editor has declined to publish. Archant owns the Eastern Daily Press, as well as numerous other local and regional newspapers.
    .
    After a five minute phone conversation with the Editor it seems his argument is that Archant is a private company (unlike the publicly owned banks) and therefore it’s pay deals for executives are not a public issue. He also mentioned the pay details are published on Archant’s website and once a year in the newspaper.

    .
    Dear Sir/Madam
    .
    As your recent editorial (‘Corporate message still confuses’, February 24) highlights, the majority of the general public feel “increasingly disgruntled and excluded” by the top pay of “bankers and other captains of industry.”
    .
    But before we criticise others, shouldn’t we be looking closer to home first? What about Norfolk’s beloved EDP, for example?
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    According to the annual Directors’ Remuneration report, in 2010 the Chief Executive of Archant (the company that owns the EDP) received £445,000 in salary, bonus and other benefits. In contrast the average salary of a journalist in the UK is £24,500 according to the careers website Prospects.
    .
    Add in the fact last year Archant were reported to be laying off thirteen editorial staff in Norfolk, and this huge pay gap begins to look very unfair indeed.
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    Kind regards
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    Ian Sinclair

  152. Choice! What choice? No choice.
    From the NHS Support Federation.
    .
    http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=5f72f778439e38b1d18a28495&id=9a230d2cad

  153. Isreal, the illegitimate theocratic apartheid.
    .
    OooooOoooh! You sound so Fed Up!

  154. By the way, for those who think atheists offer no condolence or solace should know that Andrew Breitbart is dead. That means he will never darken the world’s doorstep again!

  155. Uzbek in the UK

    2 Mar, 2012 - 5:10 pm

    Passerby
    .
    For me legitimacy of the state is NOT approval by empire or any other external body BUT approval of the state (apparatus of the state) by its own citizens. For instance current Karimov’s regime is NOT legitimate despite the fact of its being represented at as high as UN. And for instance if after Karimov regime changes through democratic election it would become legitimate DESPITE approval or disapproval of US, Russia, China or any other state.
    .
    Another point, that I do not even argue with you about legitimacy of state of Israel for me it is too NOT legitimate. But I also argue that Israelies (people of Israel) have right for self determination despite their state being illegitimate.
    .
    And my argument about Iraq’s artificial borders was based on more than solid empirical grounds. Similarities can be drawn with many more current states in Africa (some of which experienced and are experiencing brutal civil wars WITHOUT active US involvement) and many more states in Asia.

  156. Passerby,
    It’s just Uzbek’s grammar which is failing him. Other than that, there is a point in some arguments he says here. He is just messing up things in some lines. I am sure he does not mean it. I support him with regards to his argument about Mr Karimov. Gaddafi turns over in his grave in light of Karimov’s crimes against his own people. Had the uzbeks risen against the regime in Uzbekistan Karimov would have used uranium to eliminate them.

  157. Re. Jenny Tonge (some way up the page):
    First Google “Jenny Tonge” to see the hasbara crew in action.
    Second, go here to see why:
    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2012-02-27a.255.0&s=speaker%3A10599#g255.1
    Third, remember that the view she expressed, that Israel could not last in its present state, was expressed in very similar terms by….Ehud Olmert.

  158. Anon the one and only

    2 Mar, 2012 - 10:59 pm

    @Mark Golding

    “Yes, very much so. For Putin, Chechnya has become a trap he cannot escape. Yet he recognizes his own failures and rails in frustration at his inability to stop the violence.”

    Boy I have read some stupid things here but this must take the biscuit. Just because someone opposes your enemies it doesn’t automatioally make him a good guy – please employ your critical faculties and do some reserch into what Putin really is.

  159. Anon the one and only

    2 Mar, 2012 - 11:05 pm

    Mark

    I also predict that Putin will drop Assad when he feels that he can get the best price for himself in return – you’ll then have a choice to make between the sheller of the Palestinians and the sheller of the Chechens which is waht happens when you play such silly games and which I await with a certain schadenfreude.

  160. Former British Prime Minister Anthony Charles Lynton Blair was RSA’s pick to close out their annual security conference in San Francisco, and he took the opportunity to bash WikiLeaks as “disgraceful.”
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/03/tony_blair_rsa/

  161. Well…apparently Cameron DID ride Mata Bekah’s police horse…

    Which reminds me of the old joke=Which animal has a c**t halfway up its back?

  162. Apologies fot the vulgarity in the previous post…
    .
    Clearly the pertinent issue is whether said police horse was privatised or not.

  163. Anon the one and only:

    Boy I have read some stupid things here but this must take the biscuit.
    .
    You must be new here. ;)

  164. re: mark’s Putin comment.

    1/ mark says a lot of things that are basically sound
    2/ mark’s comment re: Putin is not one of them.

    Where, for me, mark’s line falls down is that, while it may be hoped that Russia (and/or China) might help to balance US power and forestall such things as an invasion of Syria/Iran, (I hope so), to see that positive outcome as anything other than a strategic decision, guided by self-interest is most probably mistaken. The idea that Russian foreign policy is motivated by some sentiment within Putin’s breast for the people of Syria/Iran, etc, is laughable on its face, and is gainsaid by the evidence of past abuses, which passerby rightly cites. Though Putin’s crimes may not be on the scale of Washington’s, that’s more for a lack of opportunity than motive.

  165. Thanks Nuid. More fools paying the hollow man Bliar for some more of his empty words. This is the outfit who put on this ‘information security conference’.
    .
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_Security
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    I see they have a setup in Israel.
    .
    Now a subsidiary of EMC Corporation, a $20 billion operation. {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_Corporation}
    .
    Just imagine what these outfits get up to and what information they have on us.

  166. Welcome back Komodo. Whereb have you been? You have been missed.

  167. Mr Cameron joked that he did not think he would be “getting back into the saddle any time soon.”
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    Cameron is a corrupt, nasty piece of work. I am constantly amazed that this Blair clone has not yet been chased out of Downing Street by an angry mob.
    .
    The amount of slack the press give him should make anyone suspicious. Look at all the ‘scandals’ that have been glibly swept aside, usually with a weak ‘joke’. Of particular note is Cameron’s long, personal and corrupt relationship with the Murdoch mafia. He would have been drummed out of office long ago if there were a functioning press in this country.
    .
    About 20% of the staff Cameron first selected when he was ‘made’ PM have had to resign because of corruption, including the staff seconded to the British Government by News International.
    .
    Liam Fox, a closet homosexual, was paid (no doubt in cash and male prostitutes) by agents of a foreign country to get British forces involved and killed in a war of aggression on behalf of Israel WHILE HE WAS THE UK DEFENCE SECRETARY. He is still walking the streets a free man where he should in fact be doing a 20-year stretch.
    .
    And what is this traitor doing now? Appearing on the BBC to explain why he wants the 50p tax rate scrapped. This is how the media treats national security traitors in the UK.

  168. Well said Mike Hunt. Cameron is yet another neo liberal manifestation. Privatisation is not creeping, it is galloping.
    .
    Apart from education and health, he now has plans to privatise the police starting with Surrey and the West Midlands, two of the largest forces. {http://tinyurl.com/7zg8eap} This is very concerning for all of us as other forces will follow.

    .
    One of the companies being touted is G4S, 625 employees worldwide, already running prisons and prisoner transport in the UK.

    .
    They also operate in Israel involved in the oppression of the Palestinians.

    .
    http://www.whoprofits.org/company/g4s-israel-hashmira
    .
    I see that Lord Condon is a member of the main Board. ALL ex Met Commissioners end up with nice little numbers like this.
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    Lord Condon, Senior Independent Director
    Lord Condon was appointed to the board in May 2004. He became deputy chairman of the board in September 2006 and is chairman of the Remuneration Committee, a member of the Audit and Nomination Committees and the senior independent director.
    .
    Paul joined the Metropolitan Police in 1967 and, after holding various senior appointments in the police force, including a period as Chief Constable of Kent, he served as Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police between 1993 and 2000.
    .
    He was created a life peer in 2001 and is an advisor to international sports governing bodies and a member of the Advisory Board of Vidient Systems Inc.

  169. DownWithThisSortOfThing

    3 Mar, 2012 - 8:44 am

    Cameron was explaining why Assad should be seen as a war criminal like Gadaffi and should also expect to face justice.
    .
    I presume he means Assad should be sodomised with a knife and then shot in the head on TV.
    .
    Maybe that’s something that can be organised in the Hague or at the UN. It’s important that justice is seen to be done.

  170. I expect you noticed my typo about G4S. 625,000 employees worldwide not 625.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4S
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    Even involved in Cameron’s cruel workfare scheme I see.
    .
    G4S provides guarding services at various airports including Heathrow Airport, Oslo Airport, Brussels Airport, Schiphol Airport and OR Tambo Airport as well as at various facilities belonging to the US, UK, Canada and European Governments. It also operates custody facilities (including prisons) and electronic security systems. In addition, it provides cash management and logistics services for the main British and European Banks.[30] G4S owns the Wackenhut Corporation, a leading provider of security services in North America. They are also involved in risk management activities, consultancy and support in areas where infrastructure is limited, including services for governments, international peace and security agencies and multi-national corporations. Services also include land-mine clearance, ordnance management and training services. G4S also provides revenue protection services for railway companies across the UK. The company is a contractor in the UK Government’s ‘Welfare to Work’ scheme.

  171. DownWithThisSortOfThing,
    These days self defense is an act of terrorism (Hitler (yawn) thought of the French Resistance as terrorists too), therefore by extension those engaged in defense of their country are clearly misguided “terrorists, and extremists”. Cameron is playing the Nuremberg card, ie upon vanquishing the Syrians he intends to put anyone who stood up and fought against the grand designs of the Western alliance/belligerents will be facing the full wroth of the victors, by getting put before a Kangaroo court, to be humiliated and then sent to be shot at dawn.
    ,
    This is the pattern that has been prevalent for some time now, if you recollect Jack Straw in the early days of the Iraq war used to flash his little blue UN book of war crimes and human rights left, right, center. He was sending a message to the Iraqi generals not to resist the invasion and instead join the marauders and take the money bags and a passport to US, where they could set up a holiday inn and coin it!
    ,
    “Assad will face punishment” is an attempt in directly threatening Assad, and his underlings, in the way of racking up the psychological pressure/warfare on Syrian leadership. However, given the dire consequences of the capitulation so manifest in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the long war on all things mid east, these threats are no longer cutting much mustard and Cameron is effectively pissing in the wind, although he may appear sort of the “commander in chief”. Alas him and T. Blair aka Emily are far from though battle hardened characters to be taken too seriously in this role, as we have seen with Bliar who has emerged to be the most hated Emily the world has ever known.

  172. Komod,
    You recalcitrant old lizard, you have been missed.

  173. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/02/tonge-says-clegg-acted-hastily
    .
    I emailed the reader’s editor:
    .
    “You know very well that Halfon is Policy Director for the Friends of Israel and that such a fact is pertinent to the Guardian’s readers.”

  174. Thanks for that letter from IanS, Mary, I’m not surprised at all at their tope level secrecy, It needs sending on, will send it on to a few thinking minds in Norfolk.

    Then, after some crashing and braking of branches in the undergrowth, the presence of our favourite dragon announced itself with an incredible pong, long before he came into full view. Welcome back, Komodo there’s a lot of rotten political meat to be torn apart here.

  175. Yes Komodo – I’ve missed you too. Been hatching anything good in your absence?

  176. I’m fed up with people here complaining about privatisation. Let’s try to be objective, and recognise that privatisation gets a bad rap – it just needs deployed with a little more discrimination. Which industries are the most sensible targets for privatisation? Candidate Number One: the Royal Family. We need a leaner, fitter Royal Family. There should be no duplication of roles. Pay Willie off, for example – if someone has to fly a helicopter I’m sure the Queen could do it with a little cross-training, and if those Argie bastards aren’t intimidated by an elderly lady in a gunship then they’ve never driven on a motorway. Competition matters too, the free market makes everything better as we know. So why only one Royal Family? It must be thrown open to the Hidden Hand. If we stipulate that the royal concubine must be a complete wanker, is Prince Philip really the best available? He’s impressive, I know – but better than Jeremy Clarkson?
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    The Crown should be put out to tender every five years. Are you Britain’s best benefits claimant? Could you aspire to something higher, the absolute acme of tax-subsidised indolence? Can you make a speech on TV every Christmas in an accent so impenetrably posh that it crashes the translation software of passing alien spacecraft? Are you willing to have it revealed that (touchingly) you are just an ordinary person but your gazillions of unearned income are, nevertheless, totally justified? Tick all those boxes, and Simon Cowell wants to hear from you – you’ve got the Rex Factor.

  177. I have read some kind remarks thank-you. And some believe I am mistaken or even wrong which is fair comment.
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    Anticipating or forestalling war can be a nefarious calling. My belief in the power of intention tells me that without the wisdom and strength of feeling of my followers, the effort is doomed to fail. Kingfelix like most of us hope that war can be avoided and others doubt that ‘silly games’ or ‘playing ‘evil’ against itself’ is my misfortune.
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    In Iraq invasion aftermath widened divisions so dangerously that they helped unleash a civil war. A sense of entropy lingers. In Libya a Human Rights Watch researcher estimated there are 250 separate militias in the coastal city of Misurata, the scene of perhaps the fiercest battle of the revolution. From being heroes, those militias have become the most loathed in the country. Deception as disinformation and propaganda by the West brings with it misery and chaos.
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    Consider the siege of Homs where foreign terrorists, traitors and defectors have murdered civilians and French fighters have recently been identified despite denials by French minister, Alain Juppe. The denial of UNSC sanctions by Russia has prevented the ‘awesome death-dealing of NATO’ which Craig described in his post, ‘Death in Syria’ hoping that Syrians are saved from that escalation of civil war.
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    According to British and Israeli intelligence Russia has upgraded the Jabal Al Harrah surveillance station it maintains in Syrian territory in order to provide Iran early warning of an Israeli attack.
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    The surveillance station, located south of Damascus, had been able to monitor air traffic in Israel as far south as Tel Aviv, as well as northern Jordan and western Iraq.
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    The monitoring station had been providing Mr. Assad with information on the Syrian resistance movements.
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    Russia also has expanded the capabilities of a Russian-equipped Syrian radar station on Lebanon’s Mount Sannine in order to extend its range to include Cyprus and Greece, and observe U.S. and Israeli naval and aerial movements in the eastern Mediterranean.
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    This expansion also would permit Russia to provide Tehran with a warning if American planes head east from the Mediterranean in the direction of Iran.

    While the upgrade of Jabal Al Harrah was under way from January through mid-February, the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetsov was in the Syrian port of Tartus, where its electronic systems maintained an alert for possible Israeli air formations heading east.
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    Though inveterately cynical image-makers may disagree with me I took note of Putin’s unartfully spontaneous outburst of fraternal tenderness when he kissed an unknown child, a boy, in the Kremlin yard before the gaping eyes of his dumfounded excursionist-parents. Putin is not inclined to narcissism, leads not rules, without imposing his personality and making a cult of it and he has learned from mistakes and those of others.
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    Today, protection of the security and the interests of own citizens is an absolute rule for any civilized country. So, it seems we have lived to see really crucial changes, even if they are just declared. The concept of indivisible unity of foreign and home policies is something I believe in. Putin says that neither of them should be superior, but both be mutually subordinate and synergic: both should be the instruments, goals and means of each other.
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    I risk tribulation, affliction, mockery and torment, nevertheless I have played my cards according to my own conscious and can only await the outcome.

  178. Thanks Mark for that enlightenment.

  179. technicolour

    3 Mar, 2012 - 10:33 pm

    “Putin is not inclined to narcissism, leads not rules, without imposing his personality and making a cult of it and he has learned from mistakes and those of others.”

    Is this Kevin Putin from Bognor? Mark, I think this is a bit irrelevant(to the people in Russia) but also symptomatic. I remember the Greenham Common schism, where half the people disagreed with those meeting peace groups in the USSR because by doing so they were supporting opponents of the regime. Go figure, as Uzbek in the UK says.

  180. Mark Golding – Children Of Iraq,
    Thanks about the elaboration on Kuznetsov and the associated data.
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    Fact is you and I and others, that is many others, we are legion in our opposition to the smash and grab policies of the morally, ideologically, and financially bankrupt bunch of sharp operators, whom akin to the local drug infused addicts on a mission to rob little old ladies leaving bingo parlours.
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    Murder is wrong, theft is wrong, bullying is wrong, and to stay silent whence the murderous thieves are in sight is wrong. World is tired of the mass murder of innocent people, and the plunder spree dressed up in the phoney concerns about rights, and values.

  181. @mark
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    Thanks for your extra comments. I only bothered to write you because I have respect for what you say (and also for passerby and mary).
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    It seems we all agree on the goal, trying to avoid war, while disagreeing on the motivations of those who might also play a part (Russia/China). I think it’s pretty clear that my position is it doesn’t really matter (for now) what the motivation is to stop the US, so long as the US and its allies *are* stopped. If Putin does it because he’s how you depict him, fine, if he does it because he is not, fine.
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    So, how are you going to feel about the fact that the upcoming Russian election probably isn’t fair (although no unfairer than the one’s sanctioned as ‘successes’ by US and its allies). Seems rather asymmetric, for the people of Russia, democracy is the loser, while for us it will be the pain of sitting through a full media week of hypocritical finger-wagging and endless pontifications on the sacredness of the ballot box.

  182. Dirty ops or psyops?
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    18 French officers and 100 paratroopers captured in Homs, a Lebanese MP claims
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    A Lebanese parliament member, Asem Konsoa, claims that the French are interfering in Syria’s politics, citing 118 French military caught in Homs fighting alongside rebels
    MENA, Friday 2 Mar 2012

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    France says Syrian president’s promises ‘manipulation’ France condemns Homs massacre, urges UN to act A pro-Syria Lebanese Member of Parliament (MP) accused France of secretly sending troops to Syria.
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    The Lebanese Baathist MP Asem Konsoa claimed that the Syrian regime forces arrested 18 French officers and 100 paratroopers, along with 70 Lebanese for joining and fighting within the ranks of the protesters in the restless city of Homs.
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    Konsoa added that such a “scandal” might threaten the political future of the French President Nicolas Sarkozy. The MP vowed to divulge more information kept under wraps about the Lebanese “conspirators.”
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    The Lebanese MP anticipates that the armed conflict will cease within a month’s time, claiming the Syrian army is increasingly imposing its control on the Baba Amr neighbourhood in Homs.
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    http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/35858/World/Region/-French-officers-and–paratroopers-captured-in-Hom.aspx

  183. Are Cameron and Hague going to demand a £200m refund following the destruction of the war graves in the Benghazi cemeteries? I can hear the outrage in the Millbank Tower from here.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17244211
    Libyan authorities have apologised after video footage emerged showing graves of British servicemen being attacked by armed men in Benghazi.
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    {http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jun/22/libya-war-cost-uk-200m} A low estimate I would say.

  184. Another report of what has been going on in Syria which we cannot have corroborated of course but nothing would surprise me.
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    http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2012/03/mossad-blackwater-cia-led-operations-in.html

  185. Evidence from Delhi, Bangkok and Tbilisi suggests Israeli “false flag” car bombing operation
    http://t.co/4m6lTUjq (Al Jazeera)

  186. CIA tactics to trap Bin Laden linked with polio crisis, say aid groups
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    CIA’s ploy to use a fake vaccination scheme to track down bin Laden has increased distrust of polio drops in Pakistan
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/02/aid-groups-cia-osama-bin-laden-polio-crisis

  187. Gareth Porter is a very well informed journalist. He writes of the Delhi ‘bombing’ of a an Israeli diplomat.
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    http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/03/who-was-behind-the-delhi-bombing/

  188. Anon the one and only

    4 Mar, 2012 - 12:40 pm

    @Mark

    “Consider the siege of Homs where foreign terrorists, traitors and defectors have murdered civilians”

    Very unfair to call Assad a foreign terrorist – unless you are argiong that his wife put him up to it.

    “Putin is not inclined to narcissism, leads not rules, without imposing his personality and making a cult of it and he has learned from mistakes and those of others.”

    Yet another comedy momemt based on what I hope is ignorance. As for the public kissing of children in public perhaps you note that this was one of Stalin’s favourite tricks.

  189. Netanyahu’s informal meeting with Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper is a Machiavellian precursor to his engagement with US president Obama in which he hopes to exert further pressure on America for a strike against Iran’s nuclear energy sites before Obama’s tenure ends.
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    Canada has lucrative military trade with Israel and since being elected in 2006 Harper has promoted strong Canadian support of Israel, stronger, in some respects, than that of Israel’s biggest patron, the United States.
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    Netanyahu will attempt to ‘screw’ Obama down by projecting these strong ties with Canada in his negotiations on Monday.
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    I say this to Harper – the world remembers that the Canadian expression of goodwill toward the Palestinian people was left on the cutting-room floor when Foreign Affairs Minister Baird addressed the United Nations General Assembly September last. Copies of the draft texts of the speech, obtained under the Access to Information Act (FOI), show Baird used a radically reworked text when he represented Canada for the first time at the General Assembly on September 26, 2011.
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    Harper either suffers from amnesia or more likely apathy and indifference over Israel’s attempt to sneak into Jordon and assassinate a senior Hamas operative using Canadian passports, a deception that required Canada to recall its ambassador to Israel.
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    Canada was the first country to boycott the new Hamas government — even before Israel. Canada and most Western countries consider Hamas a terrorist organisation.
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    I also remind Harper and Obama that Canada supports the so-called two-state solution and that means resetting Israel’s borders to those in place prior to 1967.
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    I will publically declare Obama’s Nobel prize for peace null and void if he bows to Israel’s demand to destroy another sovereign state on fabrication, subterfuge and vilification, a bloody ball-game that will murder and maim thousands of innocent children in Iran’s town and cities close to nuclear installations, breed hatred and revenge and even precipitate world war.

  190. Anon The One And Only,
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    For the record I don’t engage in banter. I enjoy criticism; mockery shows a distinct lack of acumen and is, quite frankly humdrum and lifeless.

  191. Obomber is speaking to AIPAC at the moment. Won’t hesitate to use force..recognize Israel’s right to exist..

  192. Anon the one and only

    4 Mar, 2012 - 4:29 pm

    “For the record I don’t engage in banter!”

    “I will publically declare Obama’s Nobel prize for peace null and void”

    I beg to differ.

  193. Anon the one and only

    4 Mar, 2012 - 4:30 pm

    “Obomber”

    It must be a double act!

  194. This letter published in the Independent yesterday is backing up all comments here, Somalia is another one on the list to come.

    letter to the Indy on Saturday by Prof. Wade Mansell, University of kent, Canterbury.

    headed: ironies of Israels new submarine
    Your report concerning the possible strike on Irans nuclear facillities by Israel (feb. 29th.)might have alluded also to Israels apparent attempt to obtain “second strike” facillity.
    Curerently undergoin sea trials is a new Dolphin class submarine built for Israel by a subsidiary company of Thyssen Krupp in Kiel, one of three to be delivered. This submarine, 68meters in lenght and understood to be capable of carrying nuclear weapons, is the largest submarine built in germany since the second world war. It is claimed in the German press that these new submarines have the advantage of being more difficult to detect, and to have less need to break surface, as they run on fuel cells. The apparent intentions is to mount a permanent patrol of the coast of Iran.

    perhaps of equal interest is that one third of the purchase price of a third submarine to be built will be [paid for by Germany up to 135 million Euros and as part reparations – this was revealed in a Wikileaks report from the US embassy in Tel Aviv. The reperations element seems to relate to Israeli claims against the GDR before reu8nification.
    The disparity between reporting of Irans nuclear policy and the almost total silence concerning Israels nuclear weapons and its refusal to join the Non Proliferation Treaty or even to allow international inspection must be a matter of incredulity in Middle eastern States, if not in Europe.

    And just to heap irony upon irony, according to the Jerusalem Post in 2010, the Iranian state holds a 4.5% stake in ThyssenKrupp.

  195. Mary,
    Obama and his cringing genuflections to the ziofuckwits gathering ought to have done his knee caps no good. It is a wonder he could be heard with his head so far up the collective butts of the “master race” gathered in the gala.

  196. Perhaps he wears knee pads!
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    He kissed the women on the stage and shook hands and/or hugged the men. There was a
    standing ovation. Apparently Peres was the warm up act.
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    4 March 2012 Last updated at 18:15 Share this pageFacebook Twitter Email Print Share this page
    Obama warns of force against Iran, but urges diplomacy
    Barack Obama addressed the America-Israel Public Affairs Committee
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    Iran nuclear crisis
    Oil embargo impact
    Q&A: Nuclear issue
    Key nuclear sites
    Q&A: Sanctions
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    President Barack Obama says the US “will not hesitate” to use force to stop Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, but says diplomacy could still succeed.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17251279
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    The report has been changed since it was released. A video of Obama speaking has been removed. Wonder why?

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