Free Speech for the Unlovely 225


I always seem to get back from Africa physically exhausted. I now have to tackle all the organisation of a family Christmas at the last minute. It is both the charm and disadvantage of this blog that the blogging is just me – it has no staff, and no revenue. That is not to devalue the contibution of the volunteer comment moderators – who help out with other things too – and the technical help from Tim, Clive and Richard and the the hosting team. But if I am not writing, nothing happens.

When I am lacking time or energy for deeper thinking, I tend to throw out some provocative thoughts from the top of my mind to see what people make of them. I am worrying today about the attacks on people of whom I disapprove.

I blogged recently about excessive police action against a blogger who argues against the existence of man-made climate change. I think he is wrong, but I don’t see why he should be the victim of police raids. I am going to surprise you by saying that I think that the hounding of Aidan Burley is going too far. Bad taste humour around the Nazis has existed throughout my lifetime – and was brought gloriously to the screen in the brilliant Mel Brooks’ The Producers (the first one, with the fantastic Zero Mostel).

Burley’s stag party seems rather a throwback to the Federation of Conservative Students of the late 70s, important elements of which delighted in singing Nazi songs to emphasise how right wing and taboo-free they were, with an element of self-parody (I speak as an eye-witness). You always worried there were genuine Third Reich sympathies in there – as of course there were so strongly in the British elite in the 1930s. That is the underlying worry in the Burley case – but if there were any evidence of real sympathy for Nazi views from Burley, it would have been dug up by now. I think we should just take this as bad taste humour a la Producers – a play which presumably cannot be produced under French law? Burley has been punished, revealed as a twit, and we should move on.

John Terry is a man whose TV persona and reported behaviour I have always found repulsive. I don’t know what he (or Suarez in a related case) actually said. I find racial abuse absolutely unacceptable. But again, I do not think that where it occurs between two individuals, and unless it is persistent and repeated over a period, it is a matter for the state and police. Not all bad behaviour should be a matter of higher intervention, and shaming can be a good sanction in itself. Both individuals and society have ways to sort things out without always involving the state or constituted organisations within it. I doubt Terry will do it again and it has been made plain that this is unacceptable behaviour in football. It is enough.

The same goes for Jeremy Clarkson. Again, total wanker. But nobody could have seen his TV appearance on the One Show and felt that he actually believed or advocated that strikers should be shot. His body language and tone of voice made it plain he was indulging in hyperbole with the object of being humorous. Exaggerated polemic should not be banned, or even censured. The real problem here is balance. Very right wing polemicists are very often allowed free rein to mouth off on broadcast media. On TV, opposing polemicists (like, err, me) are strictly banned. On radio, George Galloway on Talk Sport is pretty well a lone example. Personally I welcome the vigour of Clarkson’s expression – if only someone equally firm were allowed on to argue with him.

Finally, I am going to defend Herman Cain. No longer a candidate, and his tax and other policies were completely barking mad, therefore pretty mainstream Republican. But I saw very little wrong in anything he was alleged to have done in his love life. One woman alleged that he made a physical advance – put his hand on her leg – towards her in his car, after a dinner where she had asked him for help. It seems to me his behaviour was perfectly normal, and the important thing is she asked him to stop, and he did stop. If men were not allowed to make such advances, the human race would die out. Desisting once it is plain your advances are unwelcome is the important thing. The long term affair alleged was entirely mutual and consenting. Chatting up employees is tasteless, but ought not be a crime.

Burley, Terry, Clarkson and Cain are all people of whom, in different ways, I do not approve and with whose views on life I am heartily at odds. But I don’t hold the view that only people who hold certain approved views should be able to wander round and function, or that we should all be limited to certain highly constrained social behaviours. They are all, in various ways, victims of galloping political correctness. I thought I would express some sympathy for them. Human beings have a right to be wrong, and sometimes foolish. It is part of the human condition.


225 thoughts on “Free Speech for the Unlovely

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  • CanSpeccy

    Ingo,
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    Since you call me a “sod”, allow me to call you, with all due respect, another Murrayite mouthpiece for the globalist corporate oligarchy.
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    And here’s a quote for you:
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    “The wage gaps between rich and poor countries exist not mainly because of differences in individual productivity but mainly because of immigration control. If there were free migration, most workers in rich countries could be, and would be, replaced by workers from poor countries.”
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    So I hope you’re ready, Ingo, to join the scrapheap of overpaid Brits, too stupid, by your account, even to pull turnips.
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    And the author of the quote: Professor Ha-Joon Chang, a Korean resident in Britain. Naturally he’s for mass immigration and the trashing of national cultures (in contravention of the UN Declaration on human rights).
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    But he has to be.
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    Otherwise he’d not hold a professorship at Cambridge University.

  • CanSpeccy

    Clark,
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    Quit stereotyping immigrants. It is offensive to all concerned. I have repeatedly spoken respectfully of immigrants who migrate in accordance with law and seek to accommodate themselves to the native culture. Why wouldn’t I? I am an immigrant, though not in Britain.
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    The genocide of the British people is occurring at the behest of the globalist corporate oligarchs about whom you stubbornly refuse to inform yourself. You might start to educate yourself by checking the link I provided above.
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    It is all about transforming the nations of mankind, which have existed throughout the species’ existence as territorially based tribal units, into standardized interchangeable units of production: cattle essentially, a domesticated creature to be replaced as soon as possible by robots.
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    And it is about destroying the biodiversity of the human species in the name of profit maximization.
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    It is about the creation of two races of mankind. A globalist elite, hidden from view, pulling strings the mass of mankind are totally unaware of, and a mass of humanity without meaningful control over their own destiny. The process was anticipated by HG Wells in his novel, The Time Machine.
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    Grief at the extinction of the English, which apparently has already occurred where she lives, was surely the reason for Emma West’s outburst on a Croydon tram.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Technicolour, yes indeed. Clark, good on you, man! Here, it’s Sherlock Holmes wet. Any minute now, I expect to hear the hounds of the Baskervilles howling through the darkness, followed by the plangent note of an opium pipe being lit.
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    Yet perhaps the ‘hounds’ might just be might Clark’s amiable Essex pup, Shiboo! But ‘Shiboo’ may be a Roma name, no? Ah – see? Proof positive that e’en the dogges of Inge-lande are being over-run by swarthy foreigners of ill intent! Ruff-namaste-ruff!! !!Salaam-bow-wow!! Sat Sri Akaal-Grrrrrrrrrrr……….
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    Have a peaceful New Year, everyone.

  • Clark

    Technicolour, Suhayl, hello! ‘Tis a wet and murky night here, too. Peace to all. Shiboo is sleeping in front of the stove.
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    CanSpeccy, I can’t tell which of us takes you less seriously. But seriously, I worry more about the corporate structure than the oligarchs. I suspect that the structure replaces individuals at need. Of course such a structure tries to arrange for standardised workers, and this is to be opposed. But don’t try to pretend that is your motivation. You’re scared of the Asian Hordes!

  • Fedup

    Re-; CanSpeccy
    Why would anyone living outside of UK maintain a blog filled with hateful incitements to violence towards the Black and Asian community in UK?
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    Why should anyone living outside of UK, jump to defend the criminal behaviour of racist individuals whom have committed their crimes in UK and in breach of UK criminal law?
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    Why should anyone living outside UK, relentlessly pepper the threads with race hate comments, espousing anti immigrant/Black/Asian sentiments, tantamount to incitement to violence, in a blog that is in UK, about UK matters?
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    What is the degree of involvement of this malicious individual in the shooting in the head of Mr. Anuj Bidve an Indian immigrant who was busy studying in UK?
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    Should this interloping malevolent individual be subject to a police/Interpol/FBI investigation?

  • CanSpeccy

    Ha!
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    Resorting to hate speech, now.
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    Libel, actually.
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    Or is it just a delusional bout of insanity?
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    Perhaps “Fedup” is a pseudonym for Craig Murray in a manic phase?
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    But then what’s asserted is the standard establishment response to those who oppose genocide through mass immigration: call it racism.
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    But the important thing is to see what is going on here: the dissemination of propaganda for the New World Order and the dishing of hatred for those who oppose its genocidal agenda.

  • CanSpeccy

    I seem my response to Fedup’s libellous and silly lying statement has been censored, for now at least, which probably tells one about all one needs to know about this blog.

  • Fedup

    hateful mongrel interloper,
    You were invited to supply a DNA profile on your blog, to provide corroboration for your claims, which so far you have failed to do so.
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    Your tactics of spewing racist hatred and then whence called upon to explain yourself, you resort to backpeddling to NWO, tap dancing around the issues of being on record, and engaging in; “I didn’t really say everything I said.”
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    Your constant self referencing, wilful, and malicious racist comments, that is time and again peppered with “genocide through immigration”, is clearly designed to inflame, and enrage the recipients of your hateful falsehoods, stand as record for all to see, as in: “70% of the British population consider people like you to be a traitor.”
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    You little prick having gamed the system; “free speech/Unlovely/freedom of expression”, how dare you to take refuge in the law, and invoke liable laws? What the fuck are you? How much is your fucking worth? The damages you intend to make good is in what regards? What would be the damages awarded to to an odious mongrel, posing as a “white” wanker, intent on inflaming hatred aginst immigrants and pushing race hatred as a matter of routine?

  • Fedup

    hateful mongrel interloper, aka Canspeccy,
    What happened?
    Can’t take the heat?
    Why cutting and pasting into the new thread?
    Cat got your fucking mongrel tongue?
    Whine, winge, cry and stamp your fucking feet, this is the same little prick blogging: “Grief at the extinction of the English, which apparently has already occurred where she lives, was surely the reason for Emma West’s outburst on a Croydon tram.” (self referenced to boot)

  • Other Mod

    Ha ha CanSpeccy, I see you’d like the moderators to delete offensive remarks against you:
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    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/12/evil-enlightenment/#comment-335761
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    Those would be the the same “moronic moderators” you continually accuse of censorship, would they?
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    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/09/giving-it-all-away/#comment-323211
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    No, I’m not deleting anything. You’ve put a lot of effort into attracting criticism for being racist; why should I delete the responses when you’ve worked so hard to elicit them?

  • CanSpeccy

    I’ll try this with a certain name deleted
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    @Suhayl
    “there is any scientific basis for ‘race’”
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    But all white people, except a few enlightened self-haters, are loaded with “great incubus of colonial racialist baggage,” apparently.
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    No wonder I am the only critic who has persisted in commenting here. Criticism of C**** M*****’s bizarre ideas is met by a barrage of stupidity, lies and hate speech.
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    But is remains clear that the campaign waged by M***** against this strange thing called “racism”, an antipathy toward something that M***** and his adherents claim does not exist, is directed at the majority of the British people who never voted for mass immigration, never wanted it and strongly oppose it now.
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    And that campaign is being waged on behalf of the globalist corporate oligarchs who want unrestricted freedom to move capital, labor and goods internationally without regard for national interests. It is a campaign to drive wages in Britain to the level of those in Kolkata and Shanghai even at the cost of destroying the British race, culture and national identity, for as Cambridge Professor Ha-Joon Chang states:
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    “The wage gaps between rich and poor countries exist not mainly because of differences in individual productivity but mainly because of immigration control. If there were free migration, most workers in rich countries could be, and would be, replaced by workers from poor countries.”
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    To state these obvious facts is not to express racist hatred of immigrants. It is to state the basis for the anger that exists against the ruling elite who are prosecuting the genocide of the British nation, a process that will generate antagonism between the indigenous British, who C**** M***** ridiculously insists do not exist, and those who have immigrated to Britain in good faith and in accordance with the law.
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    Sensible immigrants to Britain would do well to urge immigration restraint, if only because it is their wages as much as anyone else’s that are to be progressively lowered through the continued mass influx of people from poor countries.

  • Other Mod

    CanSpeccy, there is no software scanning for “craig” or “murray”. Some comments are displayed by WordPress immediately and automatically. WordPress puts other comments into the Moderation Queue. We know that comments with two links get queued. Some other comments also get queued, but we don’t know why.
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    While a comment is queued, it is not displayed. Eventually, a moderator will notice that there are comments waiting in the queue, and will almost certainly approve them, unless they’re spam. That can take days, but that’s unusual, it’s normally hours or minutes, depending if there’s a moderator logged in. You can always repost, without links and/or in shorter sections.
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    [Other Mod – edited for clarity and accuracy 23:41 2012/01/02.]

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