Aiding and Abetting 135


I continue to do all I can to help Julian Assange in his struggle against the mire of false allegations with which governments are attempting to bring down Wikileaks and get him eventually to perpetual solitary confinement in the USA. I was with Julian again in the Embassy last week, and shall be visiting him there again shortly.

Which begs this question. If, as the government falsely claims, this is purely a case of genuine criminal investigation, with no political overtones, and if Julian Assange really is nothing more than an alleged criminal who has jumped bail, then why am I, and others helping him, not under arrest for aiding and abetting or conspiracy? Plainly the government need to get their narrative straight.

For MI5 and the police, if it makes it any easier, I shall be going on Thursday afternoon, (though I have no doubt you already knew that). You can arrest me then.


135 thoughts on “Aiding and Abetting

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  • Jon

    Snap, I was playing around with the anti-spam stuff on Tuesday, so you may have got caught up in that. Apologies if so! If it gets filtered it should say “your post has gone into moderation” or similar, and will be released in due course – or is it actually stopped and not submitted?

    Arbed, yes, I’d say that was right. If I have a contribution, I’ll either post it in an old thread (if that is a much better fit) or as an off-topic on a new-ish thread. We like to see on-topic contributions on a brand new thread, but tbh we don’t police it strongly. If people veer off thread, in most cases it’s still of interest to most readers.

  • Snap

    Jon,

    I am by now used to posts being filtered for moderation, which is fine, and it now looks like 2 links are ok which is nice. I really mean the dreaded “Sorry, but your comment seems to be Spam and has been blocked.” message. It happened in the last hour again. I have been trying a bit more, reloading the page has helped, so I guess it keeps some time state to see that I have recently read the page first. Has that changed recently? I hope you are not sending all out the ip adresses of posters off to some external site to check blacklists and consequently violate our privacy.

    Also, how would you prefer us to bring lingering spam to your attention? Is there some trigger word we can use? Do full #comment-nnn links help?

    Hmmm…. Looks like I need to rephrase my other question on ideas…

  • Snap

    Hello Arbed,

    nice to see you here again. At least you are reading here. It would be nice to have updates on what you see on flashback etc. I see interesting new theories and wait for them to emerge into the daylight.

    Am I to presume when I see an Arbed posting in comments on other sites it is most likely you? We seem to share an understanding, as you said once “I think we are basically in agreement on many, many issues”, however I have a different temperament and more scientific background, so our approaches may differ.

    While I have made a few “off the cuff” contributions to new threads, I have other much deeper thoughts on articles that are like works in progress needing development and research and answers to questions or translations and helpful exchanges of ideas. When there is a lot of hostility or off-topic churn I cannot concentrate to post anyway.
    Newer topics hardly cover the details in Sweden etc. I am more used to technical forums where posts are kept on topic and may continue or be revived after years.

    Initially there was an inspiring collection of posters in the earlier threads such as yourself, Lastbluebell, Orb, Johan and others; however they are either not seeing these posts or not motivated to join in. I guess in part I was asking for ideas on how to encourage them and to get some answers to the questions I’d already raised.

    greetings

  • Snap

    Arbed,

    was that a small compliment about my posts being “treasures”? Thanks!

    (The above have been direct, non-rhetorical questions, by the way, so I welcome your answers or thoughts now I have explained my approach and what I was asking for ideas on).

  • Arbed

    Hi Snap,

    Yes, it was a compliment. I do from time to time check back here to see if you’ve posted something new, and always read them with interest. You mentioned earlier that we seem to have very different approaches, and well, that’s a shame in some ways because I feel I’d have trouble in responding to your questions in the way you’d prefer – mainly due to time constraints, but not only that, I’m afraid. Your questions do require deep contemplation and a concentrated effort, or broad research that I don’t feel adequate to undertake. For instance, I did try to do the search of the Swedish Ombudsman site you linked to, using the keywords you suggested, and simply couldn’t get the search to return any results at all. Not understanding the Swedish language I was unable to analyse exactly what I was doing wrong. But I did at least try! I’m not ignoring you or your posted questions at all, I’m just not up to offering much that would be useful.

    My style is rather more go-with-the-flow, trawling where I think likely sources of information will be, having a good think about the implications of what I find, adding it to what I already know, storing links, etc and spreading them where I think they can make a useful contribution to those who are working to see justice in the Assange case. For example, over on the “US gunning for Correa” thread, someone’s just shown up because they were interested in knowing more about George Galloway having some of the suppressed SMS texts between the women. As it was me who first spotted that Galloway had said that in his Goodnight with George Galloway Episode 5 podcast and mentioned it here in Craig’s blog, I supplied the link to the original video, which they’ve now picked up and re-posted in Flashback. I’m hoping that Flashback – detectives par excellence, the lot of ’em – will be able to do something useful with this new ‘lead’.

  • Snap

    Hello Arbed,

    Well, that is much appreciated. I admire the way you tackle the trolls. Is that indeed you posting as “Arbed” in comments on other sites too?

    Some more remarks or interaction from time to time would help me to concentrate and write about a number of topics I have had with you in mind for ages.

    It is a pity everyone (myself included) is so guarded and cautious these days. How do I know anyone tried that Ombudsman search? I looked for a while on flashback but didn’t see anyone there take it up. Seeing the flasback’ers show up on the Correa thread here raised my hopes, and is one reason I was delayed in replying here. In my experience the search on jo.se returned nothing if I used more than 2 terms, or maybe there are other reasons like leading spaces or quote marks gumming it up. Did you get any results with one word terms like – Lambertz – ? I asked if I should provide the numbers but no one replied.

    As it’s late and I’m again contemplating what to write to loosen things up and encourage some more dialogue, for now take this as a partial reply.

  • Arbed

    Hi Snap,

    Yes, I’m Arbed on other sites too. My attempts at searching the jo.se site used only the two-word suggested searches you gave. Returned nothing. I didn’t try any one-word ones.

  • Snap

    Hi Arbed,

    I should have phrased that differently – trying other searches would help figure out what was happening; a starting point would be to see if any results are returned by some common (Swedish) word, then try one of those single names. This establishes if the database and web interface are working properly and play ok with your browser. You mentioned it being in Swedish, so I take it you were not trying that through some sort of google translation lens?
    Maybe the database was down when you tried? Otherwise, as I said it was quite picky, maybe the diacritical marks got messed up…

    I had checked they were still there at the time I posted, so please try a little more…

  • Snap

    Arbed,

    Another point to note is that one needs to be searching jo.se under the “JO Beslut” in Swedish to get the database of Swedish rulings, since the “In English” search page gets a different database that only contains a few English rulings.

  • Snap

    Hello Arbed,

    Perhaps what gives me writer’s block is that I’m pondering why you say it is a shame we have different approaches, so perhaps I can ask what your hopes are that make it a shame?

    Also what way it is you think I would prefer responses to be made?
    I think many of my recent questions have been aimed at Swedish readers, such as this JO one. However others might just be a single reference someone remembers for when something was said etc. Or just a comment – e.g. do you also like the way the article I mentioned above uses the term “troll feminism” (it is not just about the online world)? I find it an interesting conjunction of terms given the current media fashion to use the word “troll” (often misue), and as a meme it seems harder to dismiss than other such labels.

    There are several concepts I have been needing to find similar terms of phrases for to describe certain social/human nature phenomena, so might that be something easier to ask you if it your sort of thing?

  • Snap

    Hi Arbed,

    do you feel like copying your response in the other thread over to here as otherwise it is tricky to respond, and perhaps discuss these other labels like troll feminism. It would be nice to continue here and keep this thread open too, as maybe more turns up on Assange vs UK/USA etc. sometime.

  • Snap

    In the meantime, spare a thought or three for Bradley Manning as hearings on his treatment are underway. Contrast the lack of accountability for the recklessly negligent computer security provided – from the field operations admin all the way up including the usual contractor corporations such as SAIC etc. who designed, built and certified the systems and networks.

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