The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
B-R-E-A-K-I-N-G : Bookmark managing system which frees up space on your screen and gives an instant overview of your bookmark and -folders, which ducks out of sight again within 1 second (Firefox)
Hello!
I wanted to draw your attention to an add-on for Firefox called Multirow Bookmarks Toolbar which I came across, because I wanted the sites I visit frequently easily available (and my single row toolbar had filled up).
A seemingly bigger — and much cleaner looking — screen
You probably already have your Bookmarks Toolbar filled with such links, and has taken care to delete all the text so that you only have the Icons remaining.[You can adjust this add-on to delete such texts automatically and only display the icons]
Lets face it: This row of icons are not a pretty sight, so how about a toolbar which ducks (US ‘english’: autohides ) ? Wouldn’t that be something?
And by hiding away it frees up space and in this way make your screen seem bigger. And you can have up to a 100 (!) rows of toolbars!, so you will be able to manage all your bookmarks from there — and it all comes forward when you move your mouse up to where the toolbar used to be. I don’t think any other bookmark-managing system exists that can bring out all your bookmarks as conveniently, and which gives such an overview of ALL your bookmarks, and which disapperas from view again after just ONE second (you can set it to do that).
I currently only have two rows, which consists of Icons for the sites I visit frequently and folders I can drag newsstories to.
I remember Bluebird saying that his system crash when ever he visits a page like Marylin Thomlin, which consumes a lot of memory.
This all suggests that there is something wrong with the browser already, ie. it consumes a lot of memory. I had the same problem with Firefox chunking up memory, and just went to the ‘Help’ section in the File menu and chose ‘restart with add-ons de-activated’.
It seems that if you have many add-ons they somehow interact in unpredictable ways, and start to chunk up memory, so better from time to time make a clean start – and you can always install your add-ons again from the Mozilla site. More often than not, you will discover that you really don’t need the major part of the add-ons, you had before.
A Happy New Year to you all.
@NR
NR as you seem you have a good grasp of the french language would you consider trying to set up some communication on here with Holmes Pt and ask if he he/she is french speaking and if yes ask them to repost what they want to say in French and you can translate .
I accept it may be a sidetrack but the post does imply some knowledge of events and it is worth checking out what they want to communicate.
Holmes.Pt
30 Dec, 2012 – 9:35 pm
For pink :
My english is very bad, sorry. For this, you are not understand my post. Sorry.
New version :
When SM arrives at the parking Martinet, he is lost. He looks at the informative map which is there. He decide to turn back. At this moment occurs something. Maybe an accident. It is provable whom the killers are under the influence of the too much beverage lunch. Killers are recognizables. What are they going to make? Because they are recognizables.
Sorensen
Many thanks for the tech advice. I will certainly test on my PC.
Pink
Can you submit the french version?
From your translation i would guess that Holmes would like to explain that SM knew the faces of the killers (locals?) and that he had to die therefore.
This is a theory that i do not support but Holmes should come up with evidence to approve the theory
Sorensen
Since you are the tech master of copies, could you please screencopy the nigerian online article before it disappears, too? Could be uploaded to icke. There is something stinking fishy, otherwise the mail and the telegraph would not have removed it.
Definitely a D notice. The government Kazahis are CIA assets and Elizabeth Guthrie and her father quite obviously, too. They must be protected.
Yeah, I have it open in a tab now, and can always take a shot of it. It’s interesting that it has disappeared from the Telegraph, where I read it the first day, [independently of NR giving links to it (I think i read it a day before NR — residing across the Atlantic as he is — gave a link to it.]
It does indeed suggest that there is some information contained in it, which the British Security Service deem inappropriate for the larger public to know about. In the old days, the printed paper would just have faded out of the general publics attention, but nowadays such stories can linger on in cyber-space, hence the need to remove it.
I don’t have a french version Bluebird that’s what I wanted to try and get as I when I was testing my own messages on translate I discovered it makes quite bad errors even to the point of saying the opposite of what I was trying to say.
If Holmes is french which I don’t know yet it would be better for them to write in french and we get someone on here to translate for us rather than use google.
I wrote
This is not just taken out of the thin air. I am currently reading the June-November 1945 pages of the diaries* of the chief of British counter intelligence, Guy Liddell, and have come across at least two instances, where he talks about 1) D-notices, and 2)the dangers re. national security about certain newspapers publishing something (in those times it most often had got to do with nuclear stuff, which they did not want the Russians to know about).
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*) I think The National Achives have terminated the option for (free) downloads, but for anyone interested I could place the relavant diary on a website for free download.
I will add I was going to ask Holmes myself and thats why I was testing messages to see how they worked and realised it’s not very good ,it’s important to understand correctly what holmes is saying because the comment
“It is provable whom the killers are under the influence of the too much beverage lunch. Killers are recognizables. What are they going to make? Because they are recognizables.” when read looks as if someone knows this for a fact or it could be just what the translator turned the message into.
Am I making sense?
Happy New Year to all. May 2013 bring (some) answers.
I suggest to read this website from 1997 !!!!!!!!
I will quote something but the majority must been read as it is a long essay. Once again, written in 1997!!!!!!
The recent events approve a lot what had been said in his essay. I dint believe everything and I see something that i do not support, but some paragraphs are excitingly true today.
What did the Batman movie reveal us regarding fake “alien” attacks from sky (lasers et al) for creating panic throughout ordinary people? I dont know this film. Maybe somebody saw it?
Link
http://www.hourofthetime.com/majestyt.htm
Quotes:
If these acts of terror do not succeed there will be more bombings, chemical, or biological attacks. They will escalate in the destruction, maiming and killing of men women and especially children. More shootings at shopping centers, restaurants, and schools will occur.
Since the United States Army’s announcement of the inoculation of all of its personnel with Anthrax vaccine I can safely predict that the next large terrorist event within the borders of the United States of America may be biological using Anthrax as the agent of destruction and death. Anyone care to take me up on this with a substantial bet?Saddam Hussein was trained by the CIA. Saddam Hussein was put in power in Iraq by the CIA under George Bush. The United States armed Iraq and gave Saddam Hussein the technology and scientific knowledge to create weapons of mass destruction. The United States sold Anthrax to Iraq.
The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges.
I answered my question to myself:
http://movieworld.com.au/rides-and-attractions/thrill-rides/justice-league.aspx
It does already exist.
The difference to the hollywood movie is the matter of fact that the “aliens” are fake and using technology that hasnt been released to the general public. Therefore the people will believe that there is an alien attack (although this is a fake human attac with new technologies). This will lead to a new world order and a central governance for the whole world. Requested by the dumb people for the dumb people.
Script already released in 1997.
We should be aware of the next brutal events revealed in Batman movies. There is more than conspiracy because the latest events do approve this.
“I can safely predict that the next large terrorist event within the borders of the United States of America may be biological using Anthrax as the agent of destruction and death.” [from quote from link provided by Bluebird at 3:32pm on 1.1.13]
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Well, that was wrong, wasn’t it? The next major terrorist attack in the USA was ‘9/11’. Anthrax was used on a small scale after 9/11, possibly, arguably, as a means of instilling fear and support for the ‘War on Terror’ (conveniently, the ‘rogue’ scientist who is alleged to have done it ‘committed suicide’).
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This idea of a ‘world government’ also is misplaced. What those in positions of power in the USA and elsewhere aim at are maximum profit and maximum power (hegemony) in pursuit of maximum profit. The plotting that goes on is in relation to these underlying, longstanding goals. As we know, the USA et al’s preferred method is both military and economic.
It’s more the system of capitalism which leads to ever-greater accumulation of wealth in ever-fewer hands, rather than an over-arching narrative of the ideological dystopian end-point of ‘world government’. The US MIC has acquired its own power within the apparatus and now seems to drive policy based on self-aggrandisement. Selling weapons and triggering and/or exploiting, wars becomes a raison d’etre in itself.
In fact, in the bureacratic sense, ‘world government’ would be the last thing they’d want to see because it might serve as an alternative power centre and trammel to their aforementioned aims. There are a number of complex processes going on – to attempt to distill matters down to a single plot-line might make for exciting cinema but does not represent a realistic political appraisal.
You guys should watch “The Century of the Self” by Adam Curtis.
T’is on the YouTube.
It’ll explain alot about the “Neo Cons” and their “mission”.
The thing with people is…you can’t have them just running around.
You have to make them think your way !
Would have The US attacked Afganimad or Iraq if they simple said, we want regime change ?
And a “lie” is only a “lie” in that moment. The “issue” moves forward very quickly. (like 9/11).
All very sad really. But that’s what “they” have been doing for many many years.
This “neo Cons” mission does give rise to what Bluebird mentioned. The “two CIA’s” and the internal battle raging.
And that is scary boys and girls. Very scary.
Another Curtis, Mark Curtis, wrote a good book, ‘Secret Affairs’ about the relationship b/w the UK state and Islamist movements.
Paramilitary Islamism is not a myth. As we know, the CIA and ISI largely created, trained and funded it during the 1980s in Afghanistan and the ISI continue to do so, but there had been MI6 links with the Muslim Brotherhood for decades – because they were opposed to Arab nationalism – and of course, the British Empire put, and kept, the Wahhabis (Saudis) in power.
Now, the loosely affilliated military-political gangsterist ‘Al Qaeda’ (or whatever names it goes by in a specific situation) has become a reality across the ‘Greater Middle East’, ‘MENA’ (the Middle East and North Africa’), as the imperial planners like to call it. Iraq was a major step in that direction. We note their use in Libya and now again in Syria. Mobile paramilitaries; ‘my enemy’s enemy is my friend’. It is a tactical alliance, but with underlying strategic imperatives.
And as we know, right now, in spite of what they claim, our governments are providing ‘Al Qaida’ with weapons in Syria and Libya.
Interesting article:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/elite-intrigues-and-military-purges-its-not-about-sex-stupid/5312591?print=1
If we can find a shepherd hut for sale in the hills than that could be a reason Saad was up the track.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-hermit-a-car-crash-his-widow-and-the-dosh-8395862.html
“Marcel’s property will be worth a fortune. Old shepherds’ huts, converted and extended into ski chalets, can sell for up to €800,000 (£646,000).”
Pink
1 Jan, 2013 – 8:29 pm I think as regards that theory (house hunting) for SAH’s being where he was, it too might be “up the track” as you put it.
Suhayl
Your globalresearch link is about a copy from what i had posted on this blog here 2 months ago. Except for that i did also research and describe Humphries’ history, family links and his ZOA links.
Somehow i got the feeling that this author was copying from our blog here.
Pink
you are on a wrong track with the huts and that old guy. his village and the huts are 180 km far away from Chevaline. it’s a 3 hours ride by car from there. Funny story, but completely unrelated.
James
“The century of the Self” is a very good BBC documentary. The first part of it is the best one, later it is getting too repetitive and sometimes off topic. However, the first hour is excellent and much recommended to watch.
I was disappointed that he did never mention BF Skinner and “Walden Two” nor did he mention the SALK institute. Probably some kind of D notice he had to respect for doing this documentary successfully and for being able to publish this on BBC.
I would like to see a 5th part dealing with all the recent scripted false flag events, starting with 9/11.
Pink,
Do you know where the Tuohy chalet could be? Is it uphill from the SAH parking?
Seat belts on !
That’s a funny thing isn’t it.
I am sadly safety driven. I guess that’s the job.
A shut down check list concludes without saying it…
I have a sports car and a day to day car.
But when I park on the driveway, I still do it !
The first thing is…. the last thing is….
Strap in ! Or release when shut down !
SAH’s wife and mother in law had their belts on (so they say).
Is that because they had arrived ? Or because they were to depart ?
If Laurent is to be believed (1440)…and the witnesses hearing the shots (1530), then it could be that the Al Hilli’s were getting ready to depart.
But the Eric wants us to believe with the 1515 pics, and 1530 shots fired…that SAH was arriving. (and rear seat belts are on).
Why is that ?
Is it because it was SM that was the intended victim ?
SAH would have been “hit” in the time (1445 approx to 1530) that he was there alone ?
OR because SM was late…and SAH and SM had to be hit “as one” ?
Either way, it would appear that SM was indeed not an “accidental” victim here.
That link does explain why so many Tea Party Christians are so strongly supporting the zionist ZOA side.
On the other hand, the Sephardi/Mizraim Jews are no zionists and want to live in peace where they were coming from (Iraq, Iran, Africa) but not in Israel.
http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer
It does explain why conservative Christian Frederick Humphries is on the ZOA side and it explains why there are 2 CIA.
I forgot to wish Happy New Year to all here.
Hope you all had a good party to go to or a very good reason to go nowhere in particular.
Here’s extending sincere wishes that good progress be made by all on in solving the Al Hilli case and remain safe doing so.
And special thanks to CM and his hard working moderators for keeping these pages alive, even as progress is slow and far between.
For whatever reason, I think it’s important that there remain people who are willing to spend time to bring light to where darkness reigns. None of the people here knew the Al Hillis yet they seem to care that there be answers found on why these individuals had to die (though yes, I am still hoping they, or at least some of them, didn’t). No matter the reason, humans don’t deserve to be shot willy-nilly in the prime of their life and certainly every human deserves a measure of justice if their lives came to a brutal end. The quest for justice is by itself is of value, all the more so in the face of clear and present evidence of cover-up. I keep thinking that masses of people could not do anything to stop the destruction of Iraq and the wholesale slaughter of its people that ensued. Unfortunately, concerned people everywhere may be not be able to do much in the face of a determined plan by the PTBs to break up and destroy Syria. And if certain dark forces have their way, Iran will be bombed and its people laid to waste as well. But trying to stay on this one case to not let it fall into the desired oblivion is a form of protest too. Possibly an important one. And at least to my mind as late comer to these threads, it seems that much progress has in fact been made, even if it’s full extent is not yet fully visible.
@Bluebird
I don’t know exactly where it is but if you put 45.683818,6.138304
into google maps its around that bit.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/VacationRentalReview-g2275771-d2400835-Le_Chatox_Savoie-Le_Chatelard_Savoie_Rhone_Alpes.html
And on that other story I know the old guy is not near I was just showing that these huts in the hills can be sought after.
I wonder if this was going to be sold.
http://www.refuges.info/point/2927/cabane-non-gardee/bauges/chalets-de-l-eau-froide/