The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
@Felix: I asked a question a while back: when were the al-Hillis last seen by someone who knew them well enough to be certain that they were the al-Hillis? Maybe it was at the first campground where they reportedly stayed in France. Maybe it was in Claygate. Doppelgangers, or a story that is false from start to finish? Did the al-Hillis leave the U.K. at all? Such ideas don’t seem to be so far gone now.
@NR: So odd, isn’t it, that “Bad Red Wig” traveled to Paris, then went to the Turkish quarter of Berlin, to a full-service “internet cafe”, where a Turkish member of the staff reported him to police. Then “BRW” landed in a cellblock with an infamous person of Turkish descent. And now, we see the reports of the three Kurdish PKK members shot dead in Paris. How bizarre, how bizarre.
Note: red hair appears to be a dye job:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/01/11/kurdish-woman-killed-execution-style-in-paris-remembered-as-an-unbreakable-warrior/
This is why I rethunk the possible Saad al-Hilli Doussard “internet cafe” scenario. I was only using the Google man to wander the streets, seeking out a kebab shop for a spot of lunch.
@NR: I would like to point out, for the record, that none of these “reds” are real gingers. Real gingers do not deserve further stigmatization.
The al-Hilli family owned a gypsum factory in Iraq. As we discussed previously, the gypsum mines are located in Kurd territory. Does it make sense that the al-Hilli family would have had Kurdish contacts in Iraq, in order to make their deals with the gypsum mines?
@Tim V and NR: Forestry doppelgangers?
Yes James, don’t let the facts get in the way of your….. conspiracy, I’m sure [ not ] what you can glean from reading a website is more realistic than being in Israel driving around & walking through the Muslim,Jewish,Armenian quarters !
No doubt everyone was hiding their ‘fear’ just for our benefit……. their smiles & laughter all fake !
………but then I’m a Mossad agent. Lol !!!
Yea NR
12 Jan, 2013 – 8:29 am I had the huge American order in mind when I posted!!!!!!!!!
What’s going on?
No Katie….
You are an out and out zionist.
What was your “comment” again about “they should clean up their side” !
Amazingly crazy.
Cement and pencils are “banned”.
I am not so sure about cleaning products. They probably are !
Having just been through the “rats” interview at Tel Aviv FBO…I find your comments…clear.
And having seen previously the condition YOU expect fellow Human Beings to live in…I expect nothing better from you “comments”.
You are sick.
Security alert update in France:
http://news.sky.com/story/1037037/france-ups-terror-alert-as-100-killed-in-mali
NR
12 Jan, 2013 – 9:41 am. Could you explain to dumbtits like me about that address and what you mean by this: “Word games: There was le jeune colossé on a motorbike above Martinet and bad Red met with le Colosée at a bar in Paris, and now this: “… Project Colisée, an RCMP investigation that led to the 2006 arrests of several Mafia leaders in Montreal, including both Paolo Renda and Nicolo Rizzuto Sr.” Just a bit exposition would be appreciated. Looks as if it might be significant.
Then on the Forestry green 4×4 its something I have drawn attention to many times. To be on site at exactly the same time as the killing but to take weeks to be identified and ruled out just can’t be believed. We only (!) have Maillaud’s word for it.
What better cover for the attackers than a Forestry vehicle parked up at the top end of the car park until Mollier arrived? Again, identifying the alleged Forestry employees should be a job for a local investigative journo. Employees of that state organisation at that location at that time shouldn’t be that difficult to find should it BB? !!! Where are they when you really need them?
Clever titles are often used for police investigations:
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2011-2012/whoskillingtherizzutos/timeline.html
http://www.canada.com/Murder+fugitive+Magnotta+captured+while+surfing+porn+press/6725531/story.html
Colosse, Colisee, etc.
Simple, trop simple.
5. À ce moment il y a contact entre SM et les responsables qui arrivent au parking. Il se produit quelque chose, peut-être un accident.
…
Quand SM arrive au parking, il pose son vélo à terre, entre la route et le parking. Ayant vu le panneau de circulation interdite, il croit qu’aucun véhicule puisse venir dans ce sens. Erreur, c’ est le début de la fin…
Un véhicule devant dans le sens col du cherel/chevaline écrase son vélo ! …
Holmes.pt, PT= Portugal, of course
final cut !
sorry,
Un véhicule devant dans le sens col du cherel/chevaline écrase son vélo !
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Un véhicule venant dans le sens col du cherel/chevaline écrase son vélo !
@ Q 12 Jan, 2013 – 4:28 pm
“@NR: I would like to point out, for the record, that none of these “reds” are real gingers. Real gingers do not deserve further stigmatization.”
I did not know the Kurdish woman assassinated in Paris was a red head albeit a dyed one.
More red clues: The alleged suicide of Reddit co-founder Aaron Swartz. He’s not a red head, but the company is REDdit! And he lived in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, which is, I believe, home to Hasidim, who undoubtedly all work for Mossad! 🙂
Only two days ago, a woman announced on reddit that she was on the witness list (along with Adrian Lamo) to testify in the Bradley Manning trial regarding yet more infamous “chat logs” and invited questions, whereupon she was denounced by hundreds of lawyers.
Manning’s prosecutors have asked the military court to certify that the “chat logs” (not sure if they mean Lamo’s or the woman’s) are authentic “Because they were published in The New York Times” (a famous paper of record and state propaganda). Joe Stalin put on better show trials.
Crown Heights, Brooklyn is not far from Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, home of Russian mafias, and a shop which is the source for the image of the Imperial Owl or B.O.P Owl (also symbol of Masonics and Moloch used at the Bohemian Grove for real or simulated human sacrifices) that bewigged Red in Montreal used to associate himself (for real or fun?) with Russian mafias. See, it all connects, sorta. 🙂
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/01/12/an-early-builder-of-reddit-reportedly-committed-suicide/
There are as yet no reports about Mr. Schwartz having a Satsuma orange in his mouth, or whether his closets were filled with fashionable women’s clothes. Wait. 🙂
There is a ginger genocide under way and the United Nations is doing nothing. 🙂
Butterfly effect
@ Tim V 12 Jan, 2013 – 6:24 pm
“Yea NR : 12 Jan, 2013 – 8:29 am I had the huge American order in mind when I posted!!!!!!!!! What’s going on?”
These are all from today’s Drudge: http://www.drudgereport.com/
“Hannity: States could leave union if feds continue ‘radicalized, abusive’ pattern…”
“Levin: ‘I Can Barely Contain My Fury At What Is Going On’…”
“Michael Savage: ‘Nationalist’ third party to challenge Republicans…” [Savage is the one banned from travel to the UK because of “hate speech”.]
“Obama to swear in on Lincoln Bible…”
“Deliver State of the Union on Lincoln’s Birthday, Feb 12…”
“Oscars to award LINCOLN best picture on Feb 24?”
“SHARPTON: Obama ready for Mt. Rushmore…”
“Loaded Revolutionary War-Era Cannon Found In Central Park!”
@Pink, Q, et al
The police don’t want to find out. Perhaps there is nothing TO find out. I do think the Co-op bag* is significant. My opinion – unchanged – some kind of psy-op,though but the Al-Hillis were there. And following the ultra bizarre Sandy Hook “event” I note some commentators suggesting that the perps are pushing the envelope to see how far credibility is stretched before the MSM calls foul. But clearly there is quite some way to go. Expect further “events” like the Al-Hilli conundrum, but more so.
*Compare photos 3 and 4 here:
{http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/09/05/french-alps-shooting-four-bodies-found_n_1858339.html#slide=1479488}
The Co-op bag from Claygate (possibly) is hanging on ?a branch? with an orange in it. Then it vanishes!
Check also 14 and 15 with that crazy photo shoot of the flowers arriving at Claygate. Pure theatre.
It’s all a bit…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhLe2i8uFwc
Tim V 12 Jan, 2013 – 7:40 pm
“NR 12 Jan, 2013 – 9:41 am. Could you explain to dumbtits like me about that address and what you mean by this: “Word games:…”
Q answered the question with the link above:
http://www.canada.com/Murder+fugitive+Magnotta+captured+while+surfing+porn+press/6725531/story.html
I was just interested in these recurring naming coincidences, the “red” coincidences, etc. Probably nothing in it. For example, “Casablanca” has many meanings to many people.
@ felix 12 Jan, 2013 – 11:30 pm
@ Tim V, Q
“@Pink, Q, et al : The Co-op bag from Claygate (possibly) is hanging on ?a branch? with an orange in it. Then it vanishes!”
I can’t open HuffPo pics – my problem – but I expect the
Co-op bag was not red. However if it held an orange that vanishes, it is an MI-6 clue! Or must it be a Satsuma orange?
🙂
Felix, reviewing the RED clues, I forgot your and Gareth’s RED holdalls and the British RED-tops, always involved in frame-ups, misinfo, disinfo, connections to the SISs and general sensationalism.
…an easter egg hunt…. wake up, smell the coco
@ felix 12 Jan, 2013 – 11:30 pm
“And following the ultra bizarre Sandy Hook “event” I note some commentators suggesting that the perps are pushing the envelope to see how far credibility is stretched before the MSM calls foul.”
I think in the US and in the UK, the MSM and the entertainment industry is now so entwined with government they no longer seriously question anything.
On Sandy hook, the conspiracy blogs found a page accepting charitable donations for victims that was set up the day before the event. Apparently by a woman who specializes in running those scams. They contacted her and she explained she set it up to fight breast cancer and changed it when she learned of Sandy Hook, but they found her breast cancer page on the wayback machine in October whereupon she and her pages disappeared.
@ holmes.pt 12 Jan, 2013 – 10:19 pm
@ felix 12 Jan, 2013 – 11:30 pm
From Felix’s comments at Icke: “Le Dauphine Libere said the passing cyclist who found the bodies was in a state of shock.”
That’s the first I’ve seen where BM is said to be in shock, rather than flustered or in panic. He’d only be in shock if he saw the killings, knew one or more of the victims, or realized he was the target. A “what if” just came to me: what if somebody tazed him to disable him while they did the murders?
“According to the official website of the lake, the area is known as the “little Venice of the Alps” and is a centre for paragliding, swimming and watersports.”
We never thought of the killer(s) escaping by paragliding. Are there any high cliffs up there? Think Bond & HM ERII. The Olympics were a dress rehersal. 🙂
“Mr Lambert said they had driven back from a cave and waterfall past the murder scene at around the time the shootings would have taken place.”
“‘We arrived back at about 3.30pm French time and sirens were going on constantly for about two hours,’ he revealed. ‘The police helicopter was up and we knew something serious had happened.”
“Bloody hell, key witnesses, totally ignored by the MSM.. How strange…” “felixfelix; 13-01-2013 at 02:48 AM.”
holmes.pt 12 Jan, 2013 – 10:19 pm
“Quand SM arrive au parking, il pose son vélo à terre, entre la route et le parking. Ayant vu le panneau de circulation interdite, il croit qu’aucun véhicule puisse venir dans ce sens. Erreur, c’ est le début de la fin… Un véhicule devant dans le sens col du cherel/chevaline écrase son vélo ! … ”
(In brief: “When SM arrives at Martinet, he sees the road is blocked beyond that and lays his bike on the road – not in the turn-out – but a vehicle comes down from the other direction and hits the bike.”)
We’ve been told many times the road was blocked above Martinet, yet the Lamberts say they’d DRIVEN past Martinet before the murders returning from a cave and a waterfall. Where are those?
Re: reddit
Reddit founder and internet activist Aaron Swartz (26) found dead Jan 12th in Brooklyn (“suicide”).
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
A number of coincidences and suicides and accidents that are 1984 like.did we ever investigate SAH + family in terms of internet activists and freedom activists?
http://www.naturalnews.com/038650_Aaron_Swartz_suicide_assassination.html
I should add this in future as my signature to any blog entries and I strongly suggest Craig; Jon and all of you to do the same.
Signature:
Just for the record, in case something happens to me, I am NOT suicidal or depressed or unhappy with life. I’m thrilled to be alive, thrilled to keep moving humanity forward, and thrilled to be part of what can only be called a mass awakening of spiritual freedom in our world.I’m not taking any medications whatsoever (and haven’t for decades), I do not drink alcohol, I do not use ANY recreational drugs whatsoever, I don’t visit prostitutes and I’m not in any way a violent person. In fact, I can’t even stand the thought of shooting animals (which is why I don’t hunt). I don’t use boats and I don’t like sailing.
I don’t drive at fast speeds on the highway, I don’t engage in dangerous hobbies like skydiving, and I’m actually very safety-minded about everything I do.
More people being suspicious of his suicide.
http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2013/01/aaron-swartz-killed-by-dark-cabal.html?m=1
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/01/aaron-swartz/
Could we put the Mollier and Ginolet families under the umbrella of freedom and truth activists regarding CRIIRAD, wars and PLO?
My answer is: yes.
Could we put SAH and Mrs. al Allaf under the umbrella of freedom and truth activists after all we had heard of them?
The answer is: Yes.
This was Aaron’s last blog post before he “suicided”.
Title: “What happens in the Dark Knight”
Read yourself:
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/
@ bluebird 13 Jan, 2013 – 10:25 am
“I should add this in future as my signature to any blog entries and I strongly suggest Craig; Jon and all of you to do the same.”
I will need to edit mine:
Just for the record, in case something happens to me, I am NOT suicidal or depressed or unhappy with life.
I take 1 minor med and sometimes a vitamin or a fish-oil capsule – not sure why – they don’t make any difference. I do not drink alcohol, I do not use ANY recreational drugs whatsoever – coffee excepted. [Redacted][Redacted]
I can’t even stand the thought of shooting animals and don’t use boats or go sailing – ’cause those activities almost always require awakening in the 0x00 hours.
I never drive faster than Justin Bieber on the highway. I sometimes engage in dangerous hobbies like skydiving [statistically it’s not especially dangerous – except bad endings are usually dramatic], skateboarding without head protection or pads, and I’m actually very anti-safety-minded about everything I do – except hearing protection for shooting.
Yeah, I know my behaviors may cost the taxpayers extra money if I mess up, or more correctly, the elites will have a tiny amount less of the taxpayers money to blow on blow.
I hope I haven’t given the SISs, Bond and HM ERII too many ideas, especially with the skydiving and skating.
The page Bluebird gave has two good links:
@ Tim V : the Sandy Hook page I mentioned above:
http://www.naturalnews.com/038633_Sandy_Hook_Google_search_results_December_11.html
@ all : Guv’mint to shut down Internet in Flu Pandemic – so as flu victims at home don’t suck up all the bandwidth watching porn and thus interfere with banking and Wall Street. Seriously!
http://www.naturalnews.com/027364_internet_pandemic_traffic.html
Correction: This isn’t the fake fundraising page I referenced earlier. It is yet another charity page – United Way – that appeared 3 days before the event.
@ Tim V : the Sandy Hook page I mentioned above:
http://www.naturalnews.com/038633_Sandy_Hook_Google_search_results_December_11.html
Interesting read on Aaron’s twitter account. Pity we didn’t have SAH’s twitter account. That helps a lot.
https://mobile.twitter.com/aaronsw/status/288814679676030978
There doesn’t read anything suicidal only 2 days before his “suicide”.
His last two entries didn’t amuse the FED:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/direct-united-states-mint-make-single-platinum-trillion-dollar-coin/8hvJbLl6
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/politics/2013/01/7071045/trillion-dollar-coin-idea-takes-and-former-head-us-mint-doesnt-see-
He was politically active and he discussed the Patraeus/Kelley/Broadwell stories.
He mentioned McAfee being a key in that plot.
I liked this blog entry posted by him: (quote)
“We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually on a battlefield.—George Orwell, “In Front of Your Nose”
He was upset about this law and particularly about why media did not report this:
http://m.cnet.com/news/senate-bill-rewrite-lets-feds-read-your-e-mail-without-warrants/57552225
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/ndaa_lawsuit_win/
He was about to publish a survey about who writes wikipedia:
http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/whowriteswikipedia/swartz2006
He had a lot of plans.