The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Tim v
I havent seen anything what he had uploaded himself. Just favourote videos that others had uploaded. However, he is still alive because he is still posting.
Horses and Secret Service:
I am pretty sure the the Slaughter of Horses article that was printed today in the British News is a fake report and a paid article to express a hidden message: “we shall slaughter and torture our hoses”.(see my link above).
What could horses be?
1) Trojan horses (could be every spy working for 2 agencies)
2) All MI6 spies might be called “horses”. Why? That’s a matter of history of the MI6 and Sir Stewart Menzies:
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/SSmenzies.htm
3) CIA members who prepared 9/11 and the Afghan invasion in 2001 might be called “horses”
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol.-53-no.-3/the-horse-soldiers.html
Off topic, for tim v.
You will love the following link: The CIA is using horse races and betting on horses as a scientific method to verify collected intelligence information:
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/psychology-of-intelligence-analysis/art8.html
Bluebird
19 Jan, 2013 – 12:23 am
Once again, pink:
Your link regarding the neighbour of SAH being so deeply involved in the M.L.King assassination investigation is the hottest link i had seen here for a long while. Bravo!
Your very kind Bluebird I can’t take credit for finding the link though it was found a long time ago on here or DI I can’t remember which now ,I just found it when reading old comments and had read it recently when Q brought up Mr Saltman.
BB said :
This neighbour worked for BBC and Sky News. Pete Barnes worked for BBC and Sky News, too.
Again as both people worked in news and television its not suprising that they may have worked for the same companys .
I do think Mr Saltman is probably a very wise man and should be listened too though he probably has a few years under his belt at judging situations.
@ Q Off-Topic again: Excuse, but it would be fun to solve another murder most foul and a double frame-up while looking for clues at Chevaline and led here by Tim V and Red Rum the horse. Not that “The Mentalist” has anything directly to do with a real-life murder, but there are parallels and might have given somebody a bad idea.
The Mentalist involves a serial killer named Red John, whose identity will be revealed in 2014. All episodes have Red in the title, or a variation like Burgundy, Cherry or Rose.
“The Mentalist 2.03 “Red Badge”: “Once Jane found that Lisbon had no memory even under hypnosis, he knew she’s been drugged. This pointed to the psychiatrist, who’d been paid to get Lisbon’s fingerprint and drug her during their sessions–as well as commit the murder himself.”
The Mentalist: “Redwood”: “When a girl is found covered in blood and holding the weapon that killed her best friend, she is named as the lead suspect to the murder. However, she cannot remember what happened.”
Primrose Hill Productions is a production company founded by the British screenwriter Bruno Heller in 2008. [It follows the color code for British “adventures”.] He’s a former boom operator made good, very good, as a writer and now Hollywood producer. Wrote many of “The Mentalist” episodes himself.
His father, the German immigrant LUKAs Heller, is the screenwriter responsible for a couple of Hollywood’s films like “Hush… Hush, Sweet Charlotte” and “What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?”.
There is another “Rose” clue in these two stories, in which the framers managed to trick Donald Trump’s* son-in-law into printing their faked story in his “New York Observer” which the son-in-law was none to happy about:
* The Donald – Another bad red wig.
http://www.observer.com/2012/06/is-luka-magnotta-the-hollywood-sign-killer/
http://www.observer.com/2012/06/animal-activists-claim-responsibility-for-videos-linking-luka-magnotta-to-hollywood-sign-killing/
@Bluebird
19 Jan, 2013 – 1:39 am
You will remember the late and great Anders 7777 fingered JS as one of the sayanim.
I think he was the guy in whom SAH confided he had a problem and asked to look after the house for him while he was away. JS said he had told the police what he knew but he wasn’t going to say anything more about it.
The wall of silence emerged at a very early stage.
@Bluebird
19 Jan, 2013 – 2:30 am
Steven Spielberg’s War Horse – a Hollywood movie ..
BTW, did you notice the Algerian hostage crisis was also described as ‘like something on television or films’ by a witness? Is this now the standard narrative?
Odd too, that one of the militants ‘looked European .. a French national with sunglasses.’
Still too many coincidences!
Sorry, forgot the link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/18/algeria-siege-nightmare-deaths
Just thinking aloud here. What about ‘horses’ in other languages? Cultures?
I found this rather odd piece about Sibak Al-Khayl (Horse racing in Islam) here:
http://blog.china.alibaba.com/article/i16125978.html
Here are some interesting bits:
‘According to Encyclopaedia Americana (14:391), “Horses begin to appear in Arabia in the 1st century B.C., and by the time of (Prophet) Muhammad a distinct and unique type of Arabic horse had evolved.” The Prophet used horses to great effect in the holy wars. They proved faster and more maneuverable than camels. It was the Prophet who directed that horses should be bred by the faithful, so that they they would be better prepared to gallop out and spread the Faith of Islam.’
‘The common Arabic word for horse is faras, whether stallion (fahl) or mare; as a collective al-khayl. The word khayl for horse occurs five times in the Koran. The title and the first verse of Sura 79 (Those that Draw, al-naziat) and Sura 100 (The Runners, al-adiyat) are probably further references to horses. The title of Sura 37 (Those who Dress the Ranks, al-saffat), Sura 51 (Those that Scatter, al-dhariyat) and Sura 77 (Those that are Sent, al-mursalat) may also refer to them as well. According to the Koran: “By the adiyat that run panting, and those that strike fire dashing” (100:1-2). Most of the commentators suggest the meaning of adiyat as panting horses on the authority of Ibn Abbas. “And (He created) horses and mules and asses for you to ride and as zinat” (16:8). The Arabic word zina or zinat means ornament, amusement, or entertainment. Hence, the horses, mules and asses, in which horses are prominent; are meant not only for riding, but breeding and racing.’
Blimey, where have we seen ‘ornaments’ before?
@Tim
Thanks for finding that BBC clip – amazingly I hadn’t seen it. I have uploaded a few stills of the Lecoeur house.
Unfortunately, the whole of Icke is down at the moment, so can’t check with my photo uploads there. But she is in the back garden of the same house she was photographed outside at the eastern end of Chemin du Moulin. Where do you think the bend is? The camera looks like it is looking north-ish towards a stream, followed immediately by the RH bend
What’s BM upto these days? I see Mays Web design, which still uses Silver Fern on its website, now offers Logo design
http://www.mayswebdesign.co.uk/logo-design.html
@Tim V
18 Jan, 2013 – 4:02 pm
@Felix
19 Jan, 2013 – 7:58 am
I hadn’t seen that before either! Interesting comments about the arrival of the police, warning off the BBC. I wonder if it’s only recently been posted, despite the dateline?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19515509
@ bluebird 19 Jan, 2013 – 1:39 am @ Pink
“Jack Saltman has a company fastdata ltd. What does a retired journalist with “fastdata”? Could SAH have worked for him … ? What kind of fast data are in fastdata?”
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/900711864
It’s not likely the same Jack Saltman. The only ref to that company, and that address, is in the link above. The address “31 Chelsworth Crescent” doesn’t exists – only one odd # address on the street – 59.
The only ref to “FASTDATA” is an acronym for a US Navy payroll system. And possibly a software system called “Fast Data” for masking very large data bases to protect them from theft and to test systems for integrity without revealing the data – like health records.
These some of our Jack Saltman’s TV work from IMBD
This Week (TV series)
– Guns of Baghdad (1991)
– Gulf 5 (1991)
– Dover Air Base, Delaware – Where the Dead Come Home (1991)
– Rain of Terror (1991)
– At War in the Gulf (1991)
See all 59 episodes »
1988 Waldheim: A Commission of Inquiry (TV documentary)
TV Eye (TV series) (producer – 55 episodes)
– A Question of Habit (1986) (producer)
– Spanish Holiday Home Fraud (1986) (producer) *
– One Man’s Terrorist (1986) (producer)
– The Thin Green Line (1986) (producer)
– Uncle Sam’s Law (1986) (producer)
* Note this one, though I believe it’s before SAH’s father moved to Malaga. Maybe they talked about it.
@ bluebird 19 Jan, 2013 – 1:39 am @ Pink
“Here is Jack Saltman mentioned in the complete plot of the Martin L King government assassination.”
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig12/douglass-jim1.1.1.html
This is the right Jack Saltman. The ref to him in the civil trial is as an investigator and researcher and he was the one who had a passport photo of the Portuguese man Raul. Who could obtain passport photos?
Some comments from the story: “… only Memphis TV reporter Wendell Stacy and I attended from beginning to end this historic three-and-one-half week trial. Because of journalistic neglect scarcely anyone else in this land of ours even knows what went on in it. Barbara Reis, U.S. correspondent for the Lisbon daily Publico who was there several days, turned to me and said, “Everything in the U.S. is the trial of the century. O.J. Simpson’s trial was the trial of the century. Clinton’s trial was the trial of the century. But this is the trial of the century, and who’s here?”
And: “It is so amazing for me that as soon as this issue of potential involvement of the federal government came up, all of a sudden the media just went totally negative against the family. I couldn’t understand that. I kept asking my mother, `What is going on?’
“She reminded me. She said, `Dexter, your dad and I have lived through this once already. You have to understand that when you take a stand against the establishment, first, you will be attacked. There is an attempt to discredit. Second, [an attempt] to try and character-assassinate. And third, ultimately physical termination or assassination.’
“Now the truth of the matter is if my father had stopped and not spoken out, if he had just somehow compromised, he would probably still be here with us today. But the minute you start talking about redistribution of wealth and stopping a major conflict, which also has economic ramifications . . . ”
The above relates to Sandy Hook. In the bodybuilding discussion groups, people mention the many discrepancies and are disparaged with remarks like, “Crazy, stop reading David Icke and Alex Jones,” and “What difference does it make, if you are right we can’t do anything,” and of many lame explanations for every oddity.
One of their commenters had good points. He said the vast majority of people want and get only a small amount of news, and they want to believe the news is correct and not corrupt. The “official story” is set or frozen very quickly – a day or even a few hours now – and they don’t want to believe their government is doing bad things (in their names), in spite of many conspiracies that turned out to be true, like MLK above, the Tuskegee experiments, MK-Ultra, Jimmy Savile and several others.
In his experience, the loudest ones objecting to conspiracies were military or recent ex-military who don’t want to believe we are doing bad things and they are wasting time and risking injury and death defending a corrupt system.
It’s essential to democracies that at least citizens pretend they’re better than the other side, even if they suspect it isn’t always so. Otherwise, being a democracy, in theory they’d be obliged to change things. In dictatorships there is no doubt about brutal conditions. People have relatives and neighbours in prison and tortured or disappeared, and short of revolution there’s nothing they can do.
@ Q 18 Jan, 2013 – 3:49 pm Off-topic
“@NR: Are you familiar with this?” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed
I know of it. Never played it. Didn’t know it was made by UbiSoft, Montreal.
Found another old Casablanca ref: “OPERATION CASABLANCA CONTINUES ITS SWEEP: TREASURY NEWS. FROM THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE May 20, 1998. RR-2467. OPERATION CASABLANCA CONTINUES …”
This was recently news in relation to huge amounts of Quebec pot transported to NY in trade for vast quantities of coke to Montreal. “One of Cournoyer’s customers is alleged to be John (Big Man) Venizelos, a New York resident with reported ties to the Bonanno crime family, that has had close ties to Montreal for decades.”
NR
Fastdata is 100% the same jack saltman.
DOB is correct and the address is exactly the same that he was telling the judge in the Martin Luther King lawsuit when being asked about his address. Fastdata is SAH’s neighbour. We really should find about what Fastdata was doing.
This could be a KEY in that investigation.
SAH and Saltman must have had a closer relationship of trust. (care for my house, tellung life threatening secrets).
Find out about fastdata and we might get closer to a reason for “horse slaughter”.
NR 9:54 am
The only ref to “FASTDATA” is an acronym for a US Navy payroll system. And possibly a software system called “Fast Data” for masking very large data bases to protect them from theft and to test systems for integrity without revealing the data – like health records.
NR, SAH was a “computer designer” … nada! That job does not exist. He was probably a database designer. That could link him to fastdata. Since a few months i had the suspicion that he had access to secret data, just like Gareth Williams had access to secret data and probably Aaron Swartz, too.
Fastdat could be a helpful key for an investigation.
Fastdata.
No idea whether or not related or coincidence. Perhaps name coincidence.
US Navy Database (oracle based) in Pensacola, Florida.
http://www.fmo.navy.mil/m/Divisions/FMO1/legacy_systems_support_overview.html
https://fastdata.navy.mil/info/index.htm
https://fastdata.navy.mil/info/fdwebimplementation.htm
Did fastdata ltd do some contractual work for fastdata? Did Gareth Williams work with fastdata? Where did Bradley Manning get his Wikileaks data from? From the navy fastdata database?
I strongly suggest to read that complete link:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning
We have everything here once again. Gay; asperger syndrome; UK links.
Did not know that Manning did grow up in the UK (Wales).
Did not know that Manning was gay. Wasn’t Gareth Williams gay?
Did not know that Manning’s father was an intelligence officer.
Did not know that Manning worked for intelligence.
Here is a conversation of manning in a chat:
(12:26:09 PM) bradass87: lets just say *someone* i know intimately well, has been penetrating US classified networks, mining data like the ones described … and been transferring that data from the classified networks over the “air gap” onto a commercial network computer … sorting the data, compressing it, encrypting it, and uploading it to a crazy white haired aussie who can’t seem to stay in one country very long =L […]
Intimately well? Cyclist Gareth Williams? Did fastdata have a part in that script here?
@ bluebird 19 Jan, 2013 – 11:21 am
“(12:26:09 PM) bradass87: lets just say *someone* i know intimately well, has been penetrating US classified networks, mining data like the ones described …”
In “*someone* i know intimately well” Manning is referring to himself. The aussie is supposedly Assange. The person he’s supposedly chatting with (if that ever happened and wasn’t a total made-up fake “chat log”) is the mentally-ill, gay or bisexual, recently divorced (at the time), supposedly expert hacker who had been busted for hacking into the New York Times.
Gareth Williams sister & family and his female friend,
Sion (sp?) all testified Gareth wasn’t gay, they’d know, he’d have told them. Oh sure. Especially the bondage part, testified to by his landlady. He may or may not have been. Or was being so for his work — the dresses were meant for Qaddafi.
Good cryptographers often are for some reason – like Alan Turing in WWII. Maybe it sometimes goes with savant abilities. Whatever, somebody, six or the met police, wanted to smear him with gaiety with all their leaks to the media.
The dudes in Montreal were gay, one mentally ill, the other a programmer with expertise in computer gaming and according to some conspiracy theorists (abel danger for one) working on cryptography at Concordia.
Gay, gays, everywhere, some savants, some mentally ill, (Manning was not technically, just gender confused – if that is the right term) all approx. 30 years old, all on the cute side.
About Saltman’s Fastdata, it “could” be some of the things you mention, but unless we can find more, it also could be a courier service. I took a quick look and didn’t see any financials, like others have found for BM and Silver Fern. So maybe he never actively used the company.
NR
I know, fastdata could mean everything.
I even found fast data (not the company but fast data) in a Surrey Satellites document in exactly the project SAH allegedly worked for.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:2FuGw6LDMcwJ:personal.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/publications/internet-drafts/draft-wood-tsvwg-saratoga/lloyd-wood-saratoga-current.pdf+fastdata+ltd&hl=de&gl=at&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiiHDR6hRgWMXSduTwOdfj6HH4oQYr3bFeDlVdPz7fbpovuX-s7Kyw4YhhlrZdAPsVCKc6hdmwEBmk1B3q8onYoPb-HK-cQhRmSpiLFEeukrpCXtcv1GBCqySvOeIxowP6Q003f&sig=AHIEtbQB2QUGE7t0ZsegatQTP50Y1P_RkQ
There is also fast data mentioned at CERN.
http://monalisa.cern.ch/FDT/documentation_fdt.html
I would add this question to the question catalogue:
What exactly did fastdata ltd do and was SAH somehow involved in the work for fastdata ltd. ?
The Saratoga internet protocol must be a nightmare for the NSA and any other intelligence group. You could create secret satellite networks that way.
Saratoga was mentioned in an old Bond movie.
http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/literary_postcards_daf.php3?s=literary
Fastdata, surrey satellites/saratoga are getting a significant key perhaps. Saratoga could indeed be used by CERN and by intelligence units as their superfast and untraceable secure internet. Access to a Saratoga protocol network would give access to a lot of deadly sensitive data.
Saratoga
The Battles of Saratoga decided the American Revolutionary war. The British surrendered in Saratoga. Will they retaliate and fight back with Saratoga nowadays?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Saratoga
Just for the records:
Gareth Williams grew up and went to school in Anglesay (North Wales).
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
Bradley Manning grew up and went to school in North Wales
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-north-wales-news/haverfordwest-news/2011/04/15/bradley-manning-s-mother-asks-william-hague-for-help-55578-28523935/
Both were gay. Yes, NR, the sister says “nay” but i think to know the likelyhpod of gay faces and i would bet my money on him being gay. Nothing negative about being gay, and this is everybody’s own decision. But looking into the face of Gareth i bet my money that he was as gay as Manning.
Why this is somehow important? Because when they grew up close to each other and perhaps even went to the same school, then they could have been intimate friends.
Bluebird
19 Jan, 2013 – 2:30 am I suppose that young chap with the football skills is not Al Hilli but just admired by him? The listed videos could be regarded as an indication of said Kadham’s interests would you say, in which case we could say a bit of sport, a bit of science and a lot of war games?
The Hollywood Sign killer? “Mr. Magnotta was arrested in Berlin on Monday after an international manhunt after he allegedly killed and dismembered a man named Lin Jun in Montreal. Mr. Magnotta allegedly posted a gruesome video of the crime online and mailed the body parts to the headquarters of Canadian political parties. When he was caught, Mr. Magnotta was in an internet cafe reading news articles about himself. Prior to the Jun killing, Mr. Magnotta earned the ire of animal rights activists after he was linked to a series of videos that allegedly showed him killing kittens.”
above follows on from NR
19 Jan, 2013 – 5:34 am
Tim v.
Democracy = the Trojan horse.
Horse slaughter. Democracy slaughter.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/TrojanHorse_RS.html
Wild Horses for mcdonalds?
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/13160
What are people withou fuel, without horses and without guns?
Answer: Helpless slaves.
Mochyn69
19 Jan, 2013 – 6:42 am A long long time back I followed your line but not as well. I thought it was noticeable that horses arguably originated in the region of Arabia/Persia. Thus killing agents/assets or friends of Iran or others in that area could be regarded as the “slaughter of horses”.
“Most folk tales portray Horse as extending the physical abilities of his rider and so becoming an accessory to the Hero’s quest. He is literally and figuratively a means of transport across the terrain of the tale’s setting and into the internal landscape of the Hero’s journey of self-discovery and awareness. In Egyptian, Greek, Armenian, Norse, and Hindu mythological traditions, horses pull the sun (and sometimes the moon) across the sky. Al Borak, a horse with the head of a woman and the wings of an eagle, raises Mohammed to Seventh Heaven. Bucephalus, a horse mythically enhanced from historical record, carries Alexander the Great into victorious battles. Gods and goddesses such as Diana, Epona, and Odin rode horses. So too, did Hades, god of the Underworld, on his steeds Nonios, Abaster, and Abatos.” http://www.horsensei.com/publications/MythologyofHorses/index2.html
One of the most famous I thought was the one at Troy (a method of getting inside the citadel not to mention an allusion to a metal of great worth)
http://www.britishmuseum.org/whats_on/exhibitions/the_horse.aspx
Also at http://www.horsensei.com/publications/MythologyofHorses/index2.html mochyn69
“In many tales, Horse is an independent agent who corresponds to a singular physical or psychological type. Pegasus alone stood among the Greek pantheon as a god, sprung from the sea god Poseidon and the bleeding head of Medusa. Pegasus was sacred to the Muses, and from his hoof sprang the Hippocrene fountain whose waters conferred the gift for poetry in those who drank from it. No one was able to mount Pegasus before Bellerophon sat astride him. Bellerophon could not tame Pegasus until Athena visited him in a dream. She handed him a golden bridle and bade him ride Pegasus to defeat the monstrous Chimaera. When Bellerophon awoke, he held the golden bridle in his hands. Thus the bridling of Pegasus symbolizes the rationality of Athena, goddess of Wisdom, overcoming the instincts and uncontrollable passions, represented by Pegasus in his wild, unbridled state. The story also links the dream world to the waking world. We are reminded of our ability—the necessity—to use will and reason to manifest in the physical the gifts from the seemingly chaotic, ephemeral, and disconnected world of dreams, instincts, and imagination.”
“Archetypal dramas come to us in folk tales and in night time sleeping dreams. We also see them in waking dreams, those highly symbolic or highly charged events that seem to happen to us—our triumphs, tragedies, lucky breaks, “accidents,” and illnesses. In Jungian psychology, the work of a lifetime is the process of individuation in which one attempts to integrate all the archetypes into consciousness of the Whole Self. In this process, and in common with the mystical traditions of every world religion, we recognize the fundamental unity of all beings and all experience.
“In myth and folk tale, whether idolized or demonized, Horse appears in forms that correspond to all the major Jungian archetypes we meet below—Anima and Animus (Gender Complement), Dark Shadow and Bright Shadow, Trickster, Hero, and Willing Sacrifice. http://www.horsensei.com/publications/MythologyofHorses/index4.html
Felix
19 Jan, 2013 – 7:58 am pleased I could be a little help Felix. I was pleased to come across it as well. As far as I am aware the shown RH bend when travelling N can be seen on google on the northern outpost of Chevaline itself. Its the only one with that distinctive arrow sign. Of course I could be wrong. And the next room for error is the BBC don’t actually SAY it is one. We make that assumption based on the fact they show it whilst describing the incident. Certainly strongly suggestive I would say. Now are you saying her house is not on the Chevaline road but the one to the East to Arnaud? In which my interpretation flies out of the window.
NR
19 Jan, 2013 – 10:11 am. I agree with your assessment. Saltman if i read the transcript right went back to the States in 1999? in connection with an appeal or civil case whatever. He fingers not only a criminal gun runner Raul for the MLK assassination but also CIA for whom he alleges he was bringing guns from Portugal heading for American backed Contras in Nicaragua or somesuch. It appears Saltman is sticking his neck out a bit – so maybe we can assume he’s not CIA asset and reliable?