The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Tim V
Your faith in the builders story surprises me……
Laurent Fillion-Robin, 38, also said there was no sign of any vehicle following the family.
The builder said that he was working on a house in Chevaline when he saw the red British-registered BMW drive past between 2.30pm and 3pm. The shooting was reported to police at 3.58pm by a retired RAF pilot who was out cycling and came upon the aftermath.
Mr Fillion-Robin added that he did not hear any shots fired that afternoon and said that the car park was not the sort of place that families with young children would usually go.
From here:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9533726/France-Shooting-Single-weapon-used-in-massacre.html
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The new witness last night revealed that the family had arrived at an isolated mountain car park at least an hour before they were killed. He also said there was no sign of any other vehicle following the family, suggesting they had arranged to meet the killer or were victims of a random attack.
Laurent Fillion-Robin, 38, was doing building work on a house in Chevaline when he saw the family’s red BMW approaching. He said he saw the car between 2.30pm and 3pm. The shooting was reported to police at 3.58pm by a former RAF serviceman who was cycling past.
“I saw an English car coming up the road from the village,” said Mr Fillion-Robin, who has not yet been interviewed by police. “There were no other cars with it. I did not see or hear any other cars pass by that afternoon.”
The house is the final property before the road climbs 3km to the car park in a national park above Lake Annecy.
Police have revealed that the Iraq-born Mr Hilli, 50, his dentist wife Ikbal, 47, his Swedish mother-in-law Suhaila al-Allaf, 74, and a cyclist, Sylvain Mollier, 45, were each shot two times in the head and that 25 bullets were fired in the attack.
Mr Fillion-Robin said: “I didn’t hear any shooting. You do hear shooting from the hunters sometimes but I didn’t hear anything that afternoon. Perhaps they had a silencer.”
The builder, who lives in a nearby village, said it was “bizarre” for the family to have gone to the car park. “It is not the sort of place that families with young children or older people would go to,” he said.
From here
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/witness-describes-the-final-movements-of-the-hilli-family-in-the-french-alps-shooting/story-fnb64oi6-1226470712911
(I havent read it but copied to Icke Post No.590)
A builder not only creates a timeline that has not been disputed since by the press, he also suggests a silencer and questions why they would possibly want to visit such a place. He said they werent being followed, I am sure he never said anything of the sort. He most likely said I didnt see another vehicle or we didnt block another vehicle.
The press arent printing what he said but are telling the official version through him saying very little. He heard no gunfire = must have used a silencer.
Please do a google search for this exact phrase and include the quotation marks:-
“Laurent Fillion-Robin, 38, also said there was no sign of any vehicle following the family”
My guess this phrase was used at a Police update and so means Eric Maillaud said………….
He has said lots of things almost none of it true.
Perhaps LFRs speeding fines are no longer outstanding.
The Daily Express article doesnt say it now, but it once said:-
EXPRESS UK–SEPT 10, 2012
Laurent Fillion-Robin, 38, who was working on a house in Chevaline, is believed to be the last person to see the family alive.
He said: “I saw an English car coming from the village. There were people in the car but I do not know how many.
[http://scotlandyard.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-max=2012-09-10T07:32:00-07:00&max-results=3&reverse-paginate=true]
Not exactly observant, maybe there were people in the car.
Don’t trust the media! They are liars! They are privately owned by exactly the same people who are staging those scripted theatres. They are part of the whole fake. All of them. Or else tell me about any independent media except for some blogs on the www.
I have stopped to believe media since 9/11.
You could trust them on minor incidences (e.g. the queen celebrates birthday) but don’t trust them on politics and staged crime scene reports. If you trust on what they did report then this is a waste of time. Even pictures could get staged or faked and the past (e.g. wikipedia, genealogy, …) or even previously written media reports can be changed, rewritten and faked. They manipulate the past, the presence and the futire. They manipulate our minds.
This is exactly what Orwell told us in his book 1984.
We need more Winstons!
One of that scripted fakes has got another interesting incident:
http://www.examiner.com/article/bombshell-sandy-hook-shooter-died-day-before-shootings?CID=obinsite
Whoever did it, deliberately, accidentally or just because he did naively document the truth, this is part of a fake world that Rumsfeld and Cheney and ZOA introduced us in 2001. Wake up!
While looking at the Scotland Yard blog, which I hadnt done in over a month, I found the following comment:-
manuelJanuary 8, 2013 at 10:14 PM
what if the gun not only jammed but exploded.a not uncommon thing even in the bet of weapons, but particularly in weapons that have a horrendous reputation for jamming. A good friend said this..
Although you see many Lugers used in movies as murder weapons it isn’t a smart nor safe idea!
You could NOT have picked a worse firearm than the Luger to use as a murder weapon! I see in several of these posts saying that they used ‘modified ammo’ in a Luger! One of the biggest problems with this idea is that it is probably the biggest problem for Lugers. Ammo MUST be of a particular pressure or Cups for it to even function. The Toggled action of the Luger makes it imperative to have consistent pressure to discharge one round and load the next from the magazine! It plagued the Germans so much that they changed over to the 9mm P-38 later in the war because both cartridges, the .30 caliber and the 9mm, were not being loaded with any consistency due to raw material shortages. Even today, the hand loading for the rare .30 caliber Luger takes special care! That’s probably why they found pieces of the weapon at the scene. It may very well have blown up in the hands of the perpetrator!
so i sought video and found an example of such.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Oh1lyMyejpI
one that is very distinct possibility not mentioned elsewhere ! good idea..given they found bits of plastic which came theoretically from striking one of the children after the gunmen allegedly ran out of ammo or his gun jammed, a very common problem in the magazine. pin at the bottom, and especially after neared the final few rounds..it’s not a stretch that if the powder was packed improperly or cartridge partially in chamber that the gases would cause a severe rupture..or more..and one exploded..maybe someone have heard something, possibly even hurt, though i don’t know what damage such explosions can cause aimed away but still level with face.
seeing exploded still could hit girl on head after the event..food for thought indeed.
I certainly hope all the parties there were tested for gun residue, and i wonder if unlike our chap in the
video the perp did sustain any injuries.
Blood on a stone remained at the scene. SMs blood on SAH’s trousers and Zainab’s sole. But also blood on BMs hands. His own!?
Oddly enough I saw a ‘Body of Proof’ episode this week about Beretta bite.
Scotland Yard comment by Manuel was on 31/12/12 about TBA.
After recent mention of the blue barrels I tried to look more closely at them and was unable to find any decent quality photos still being available.
Is it me or have they disappeared?
@ bluebird 25 Jan, 2013 – 10:08 am
“Don’t trust the media! They are liars! They are privately owned by exactly the same people who are staging those scripted theatres. They are part of the whole fake. All of them. Or else tell me about any independent media except for some blogs on the www.”
If, for example, you now search on “Sandy Hook” and “conspiracy” the first results pages are ALL “Sandy Hook Conspiracy Debunked” and similar. You need to search for “Icke” or “Alex Jones” etc. to see any of the original theories.
The first listed “debunkers” are MSM like “Time” and “Newsweek” and “Huffington Post” then the leftist sub-MSM like salon.com, gawker.com, the latter ones particularly outraged anyone dare question the official version.
There is a double-conspiracy theory that David Ickes and some others propose, that Sandy Hook is so obvious a fake because soon the government will reveal “the truth” with surveillance videos and so on that prove it was all “real” and thus discredit the ones who claimed it was a conspiracy.
Then they will demand removal from the Internet of all alternative sites that cause dissension and thus people to lose faith in their benevolent government.
Searching on “Aaron Swartz” and “conspiracy” brings somewhat the same results, the conspiracy debunkers at the top, but not as bad as Sandy Hook. Plus the Russians and the Iranians are outright claiming it was a government murder – something like Operation Viper.
http://www.eutimes.net/2013/01/obama-regime-orders-computer-genius-aaron-swartz-suicided/
NR et al
I agree with the supression of sane critics. Connecticut even announced that it would investigate for criminal prosecution every report that opposes the official script of SH. Blogs like ATS turn off every kind of even sane discussions regarding SH. It is a self censorship that reminds me of Stalin’s Russia and Hitler’s Germany. Don’t question the official propaganda or you will end up either dead or in a prisoner camp.
The blind support of media and Hollywood was first officially announced by Donald Rumsfeld in a press conference where he announced the war on terror. Shortly before the end of the press conference, he said: “By the way, we need support from media and journalists and from Hollywood and film makersin order to win this war. You guys will be very important for the USA.” …. Response from present journalists: “yeah, yeah, usa, usa!”
I tried to find this press conference on youtube but could not locate it.
This is very important: strongly recommended to read this:
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/CBD.html
Quotes:
“Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind.”–General William C. Westmoreland, Time, April 5, 1982
Perception management is the mission, under a $45 million Army grant, of the Institute for Creative Technologies, an interactive virtual-reality warfare simulation center and think-tank in Marina Del Rey, operated by the University of Southern California. Richard Lindheim, former vice president of Paramount Television Group, is executive director of the center. The keynote address at the ITC’s opening in 1999 was delivered by Jack Valenti, who observed in his opening remarks, “Los Angeles is not the entertainment capital of the world. Washington, DC is the entertainment capital of the world!”
On May 6, 1997, Devore made a note in his day-planner: “Undersecretary for int’l narcotics makers. Chase [name crossed out]. Crime and Narcotics Center. CNC. Largest center in CIA. Espionage agents work with local police, gov’t, etc. Do cover work on problems locals won’t handle. Airfields, burn labs, fuel storage.”
Two years ago, the Central Intelligence Agency opened its headquarters to Showtime and Paramount for the making of In the Company of Spies. The program aired on Showtime. To celebrate the completion of this collaborative project, the CIA’s George Tenet invited everyone involved to a private screening at CIA headquarters in Langley. “The CIA’s objectives were clear,” screenwriter Roger Towne told the Associated Press. “They hoped to see a human face put on the agency and we had just the story to do it.” (“Hollywood Whores for Washington,
“For many years,” Canadian media critic Doug Saunders writes, “Hollywood’s most prominent products, its major studio films and TV series, have been almost indistinguishable from government-funded propaganda. With rare exceptions, whenever men in uniform appear on-screen, Hollywood has been singing Washington’s song from the beginning.” The grave flaws in American foreign policy “may loom large in history, but 50 years of cinema and TV have painted [the CIA and DoD] in bright and unmottled hues.” And reaped immense profits with their art: CIA expenditures alone on propaganda during the Cold War ran to hundreds of millions of dollars each year. (Alex Constantine, And Now a Word from Our Sponsor — the CIA, Virtual Government) “If Bush were to erect a soundstage on the White House lawn, he could not do a better job getting the official line across than movies and TV shows have been doing for years.” (Saunders)
The thoughtful movie moguls represented CBS, HBO, MGM, Showtime, Dreamworks, Viacom and other multinational cartel dream factories. The New York Times assured, “several executives emphasized … that they were not interested in making propaganda films.
Memorable Rumsfeld press conferences regarding leaking of classified information (Swartz) and theatres:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jUgY6oTsNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVhz3kNxlJk
The known unknowns and the unknown knows relate to theatre scripts setup for us by the government.
Those who leak and who become a danger for the mobsters used by governments, will get killed. Like SAH and family were killed because they were dangerous for the known unknowns getting leaked.
NR
Not sure if you already saw this:
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/24/whither_the_sandy_hook_truthers/
Quote
Just look at what happened to Martha Dean, who was the 2010 Republican nominee for attorney general in Connecticut. Last week, she posted a link on her Facebook page to a YouTube video arguing the Newtown massacre was a hoax. The backlash was fierce, and it was led by fellow Republicans. “We do not need to hear these vile conspiracy claims,” the Republican leaders of the Connecticut House and Senate said in a joint statement calling on Dean to take down the Facebook post (she did).
++++
You do not even get a chance to question the official truth. We are all of us mind controlled and brain washed by the official media.They are too powerful because they can retroactively change the truth, they can change history, and … they got the license (wild card) to kill those who become inconvenient for their script.
Straw44berry
25 Jan, 2013 – 6:39 am ref that Peter Cowup (sic) quote it’s a bit like saying there is no danger from radioactive materials in a power station, or polaris missiles in a submarine, or for that matter bullets in a gun. Dangers always exist when something goes wrong and Sods Law states: “If it can, it will”.
Straw44berry
25 Jan, 2013 – 8:49 am this is the first time i have seen that Figaro report from the day after. As far as I am aware it is the only one that details so finely the actions that took place. Whether this was creative thinking on the part of the journo or police briefing is difficult to say. Bit strange that its a Spanish organ rather than a French one (or English) or perhaps I just missed them. Its difficult to accept its accuracy however simply because TWO days later after that supposedly detailed search, its clear from the newspaper reporters that the actual site itself still has objects on it. Reference is made to an abandoned shoe, cigarette butts, glass and blood-soiled chippings, earth and leaves, not to mention several embedded bullet casings. And why if the forensics was so thorough did it take so long to find another ten bullets and settle how many times the victims were shot and where? In the circumstances this article is what the police want us to believe rather than what must have happened in practise I fear.
@Straw44berry: One reason I can see to be worried about helicopters carrying hazardous materials is that some satellites can detect radioactive signatures. We can assume they don’t detect radioactive signatures for nothing. Friendly fire?
@Straw44berry: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviation/9805612/Helicopter-crashes-into-crane-two-dead-in-Vauxhall-rush-hour-accident.html
“Speaking from the crash site, Julian Firth, an investigator with the Air Accidents Investigation Branch, said the wreckage will be taken to its site at Farnborough, Hampshire.”
@NR: So, engineering companies operating in war-torn Africa have military intelligence experts, to help them improve transparency? And ex-FBI?
@Straw44berry:
Forgot to add this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium
@BB and NR: You will find very little information on Dion Longworth on the internet any more. Of course: the suspects have been apprehended.
Straw44berry
25 Jan, 2013 – 9:49 am The text you quote appears to be factually incorrect for some reason Straw. The alleged telephone call was not at 3.58 but 3.48 pm. I know it’s only ten minutes in it but it’s SIGNIFICANT. Normally the time a call is logged is the first piece of reliable information as its vitually automatic and recorded. I am sure the French must have this system. That is why I concentrated on it so heavily and I think proved, if we can rely on anything Martin or Didierjean have said, that it was a lie. Of course I am not saying that a call was not made at 3.48 but not by these two “witnesses” which obviously raises the the important and unresolved question “Then Who?”
“www.mirror.co.uk/…/saad-al-hilli-alps-murders-french-13792…ShareOct 15, 2012 – Saad al-Hilli Alps murders 33-minute window for Alps killing: French … His telephone call was logged at 3.48pm.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Saad-Al-Hilli-shooting-French-Alps-…ShareSep 7, 2012 – Her father Saad Al-Hilli, 50, mother Ikbal and her grandmother were all … called the emergency services from his mobile phone at 3.48pm on …
http://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › EuropeShareSep 7, 2012 – French Alps murders: Seven-year-old Zainab al-Hilli tells police and …. 5 Sept, 3.48pm A British cyclist calls the French police after finding three …
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/…/story-e6frg6so-1226466975120ShareSep 7, 2012 – A French police source named the dead driver as Saad al-Hilli, … having cycled into the car park at 3.48pm on Wednesday, Mr Maillaud said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk › World news › French Alps shootingsShareSep 6, 2012 – Your IP address will be logged … They are Saad al-Hilli, an Iraqi-born British citizen from Surrey, his wife Iqbal, ….. The phone call received by the emergency services was made by a British cyclist at 3.48pm, he says. (That’s enough examples! Ed.)
My point is that 38 year old Laurent Fillion-Robin, is independent enough, genuine enough and sensible enough to be believed. This was not a car flashing past on a busy A road but a situation of an isolated road where action had to be taken to let it past. A false seeded statement would have been far MORE specific about time. “Between 2.30 and 3.00 pm” is an example of a man trying his best to be truthful and I think we can use those outer limits as the time frame particularly as he suggested he held him up for ten minutes.
This in itself tells us something I feel sure. A person late for an appointment is unlikely to take a hold up calmly yet there is no suggestion of aggrevation or altercation. If as I believe we have, established that the only convincing reason for them going up there was a meeting, clearly SAH considered himself in good time. This fits beause neither Molllier or killers arrived until nearly 3.30 (that is if they weren’t already there).
“A French builder doing work on a British businessman’s house in the village of Chevaline on the day of the shootings yesterday said he saw the al-Hilli family drive up the hill shortly before they were killed.
Laurent Fillion-Robin, 38, said he noticed the red BMW estate because it had a British numberplate. He said he did not hear any gunfire, and speculated that the killers may have used a weapon equipped with a silencer.
“I didn’t hear any shooting. You do hear shooting from the hunters some times but I didn’t hear anything that afternoon. Perhaps they had a silencer.
“I find it bizarre that the British people were up there (at the car park).
“There is not much up there apart from a few chalets. I just wonder what they were doing up there.
“It is not the sort of place that families with young children or older people would go to unless you know the area.”” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9532125/France-shooting-French-police-hunt-two-killers.html
Now as to detail Fillion=Robin does give detail. He says a man was driving; a little girl was in the front seat; there were passengers in the back; that it was a red BMW and that it had British plates. Compare that to the much more highly observation trained Martin’s description and you get my point.
His stated assumption about silences is reasonable given he didn’t hear shots. Given that building operations can be noisy and the shots only lasted 30 seconds it is said, this is understandable. Again contrast with Martin’s situation. Nor is observation about the likelihood a family would want to go there is supported by the characteristics of the occupants, no suggestion of preparation for hike or picnic as I have previoisly said. Finally “not being sure how many were in the car, can be reconciled with his later details about the front passengers without difficulty. He was not acting as customs official at a border post. He had no reason to suppose they would all be dead within the hour. Nor is it a problem to believe him when he says there were no other cars as an alternative route to the East exists.
I see no reason to doubt LFR’s testimony (unlike a lot of others!) and wonder why you are so sceptical of it? If he was put up to say what he did what would be the purpose as it runs counter to what Maillaud would have us believe?
Finally take a look at this vid. reconstruction that I haven’t seen before at – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH6yhMDOumU and see if you can spot the obvious conflicts with what we have learned to believe.
Has there been a tally of how many rats Rentokil managed to kill in Libya?
I have been doing some reading and learned that this helicopter is not the only one equipped with an automatic flight control system (AFCS). Apparently it is quite useful in Search and Rescue (SAR) helicopters.
http://www.agustawestland.com/product/aw109-luh-0
@ http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/CBD.html
“The national security-entertainment complex is as driven by greed as it is hypocrisy, so on September 15, 2000, the New York Post reported: “BUSH MADE BUNDLE ON MOVIE VIOLENCE.” President Bush has scolded panderers of film violence and is given to public pronouncements that there should be “a sense of urgency in our society about the pervasiveness of violence” (excluding the current spate of gory war movies, of course — these he applauds). “I think it starts with reminding moms and dads that they’ve got to be mindful of the games and movies and music that their children are listening to.” Most moms and dads had no idea that, for ten years, moralist Bush sat on the board of Silver Screen Management Co., a company operated by New York businessman Roland Betts, a fellow Skull & Bones frat brother. Silver Screen has financed a score of R-rated flicks, including The Hitcher, a bloodfest. Bush joined the board of SS in 1983 and was a director until 1993, when he planned his candidacy for the Texas governor’s office. Bush received over $100,000 in directors’ fees and bonuses from the firm.”
Only a small step from “Silver Screen” to “Silver Fern”?
aND JUST TO ADD TO Tim V
25 Jan, 2013 – 2:57 pm Even FIVE DAYS AFTER THE EVENT Maillaud categorically states at a recorded press interview, and to be sure we get the point he repeats it, “Three out of the four were shot in the head”. This please note was after the post mortems carried out on Friday 7th September. This sort of inaccuracy just cannot be explained in conventional terms.
Now I am finding it almost impossible to discover any reference to Laurent Fillion- Robin despite his distinctive name, apart from those early references repeated by all the media. I am sure there was later interview reported where he speaks of the front seat passengers but Google just wont turn them up. No doubt others here will have the right method up their sleeve to do better.
Quite aside from the use of depleted uranium as ballast in some helicopters, there is this:
http://www.japanfocus.org/-C__Douglas-Lummis/2933
Some helicopter blades contain strontium 90. Craters can be caused by helicopters that crash, or their removal.
http://web.ead.anl.gov/uranium/uses/snfwaste/polydu.cfm
For further reference.
For what it’s worth, I tend to concur with Tim V’s take on Straw44berry’s 8:49 AM and 9:49 AM posts. LFR’s testimony appears credible precisely because it does not support the official EM line and is just specific enough without being overly so. In fact, this is one of the very testimonies by an individual who appears to have an actual existence that strongly points to the possibility of a pre-arranged meeting taking place. Ever since the time LFR gave his testimony – strangely never much hounded by reporters wanting more detail later – there have been a logic acrobatics performed by our trusted gymnast Eric, twisting, pretzel-like, every-which-way to unsettle the possibility of an early arrival of the vehicle. Somewhere I read the BMW passed or was held up at 2:40PM though most early accounts say between 2:30 and 3:00 PM. Then, like in a magic show, we later start seeing references to “sometime after 3PM” (which, to me reads like poor LFR went as far as he was willing to stretching the truth). And to me that’s one of the best examples of how the early accounts of the Chevaline “incident” started morphing – almost always in the direction convenient to the official story line.
Also with regard to that Figaro article – wiit looks completely scripted – in startling contrast to all other accounts about the handling of the murder, which are strangely vague. I agree again with Tim V that this looks like something that the police sources would hand reporters to build faith in the thoroughness of the police protocol. In fact, if one looks at that script it looks rather non-specific to Chevaline – except for that reference to “26 specialists”. With such thoroughness combing of the crime scene – and so many crime specialists called in – isn’t it peculiar that they could have somehow missed a l;ive and well little girl in the car? doesn’t that seem like they looked everywhere but where the crime was actually committed.
BTW, that telegraph article where the 3:58 PM was mentioned (in likely error) also had another numerical “error” – the age of Suhaila was stated as 74. In most other accounts I saw 77. So either this particular reporter is a bit sloppy with his numbers, or?
Anyways, just to make sure people don’t take me to be Tim V’s hired (and well paid?) echo chamber, for the record I would like to point out – yet again – that I refuse to throw out the possibility of an extraction of some or all victims – one that likely occurred well before the shootings, something that Tim V discounts (due to over -complexity). Yesterday, following Q, I was willing to entertain the possibility that the actual extraction (or the “being made to disappear” scenario) occurred for the Al Hillis way before, possibly even in the UK, and that everything after that was following a script to produce a cover story. In this script BTW Saad himself may have been the real thing, at least a big part of the way because his picture was the only one pasted in the reports. I admit that Mollier must be accounted for as well and that the Chevaline location was selected because of SM living nearby. Why and how and who exactly I cannot postulate at this time, other than as wild speculations. I prefer to keep this option on the table, partly as logical foil to the assassination, partly because of elements that cannot be explained any other way (like the absolute absence of photos of so many people).
@ BB : Related to Sandy Hook and the “dialogue” over more stringent US gun control laws, there is not permitted even a stage whisper about the possible influence of prescription drugs or even street drugs on perhaps some “shooters” that go berserk.
Not a suggestion of this even by the National Rifle Association and others on the right. In spite of the constant advertising for mood-altering drugs, which by law must list horrifying side-effects, they include suicidal ideation, never homicidal ideation.
http://health.phys.iit.edu/extended_archive/0405/msg00201.html
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Z6_GB-E5Tm8J:pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML0603/ML060340366.pdf+general+nucleonics+%2B+agusta+helicopter&hl=en&gl=ca&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg4Zdi5d32klQxVyqOnAeMQnn0ZuGaNswiWHAIcxcmFCL8f_VgypQ23ipONiMcDDNBqa9pk75F78K16hRrz4tR7zlbTFbm815XDaKUzozT663NCn1CjP6FXB0U3j1vRNPtwJiHE&S
General Nucleonics Helicopter Blade Failure Detection Guage (IBIS strontium-90 device) at Agusta Aerospace corporation in a Severity Level IV violation documented by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
NR, 9:52PM – I agree that this complete and total absence of photos is truly puzzling. It’s just icredible, like you suggest, that no photos turned up of say, the little girls, snapped along the way by someone, or from school year photo or from friends’ parents or whatever. None were tempted enough to sell photo to the press – or was there a real DA notice not to accept or publish any?
To me, barring any other possibility, it simply looks like a plan was put in motion way in advance. Things must have been scrubbed off records early on. Usually, for a case like this, it takes time for the police – in two countries – mind you! – to get to all the corners where inconvenient evidence may turn up (such as someone’s photos). yet, in this case, there was nothing – practically from day one. How could everything be suppressed so fast and so completely? even a DA notice issued immediately is not enough to explain that.
So yes, something is very wrong with accounts of the “slaughter of horses” . And it stays wrong. And I have every expectation that the new french documentary planned for release will keep the ‘wrongs” in place, or else it would not be released.
Planning an extraodinary rendition? How about a stopover in sunny Mallorca:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition
Many different destinations were offered from extraordinary Mallorca:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/11/16/165660/-Extraordinary-Renditions-Through-Spain
Scenic helicopter tours also available:
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2009/11/rend-n05.html
Booking now: http://justiceinconflict.org/2011/09/06/a-remarkable-relationship-us-and-uk-complicit-in-gaddafi-regime-crimes/