The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
A looonnng piece on US computer law and Aaron Swartz, government over-charging, draconian sentences and fines, plea bargaining, etc., for those deeply interested.
Best line: “… the government argued at trial that [another defendant] had criminal intent because he was a hacker and we know he was a hacker because he was wearing a Defcon tee shirt when he was arrested.”
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/03/201331111550550495.html
Has anyone looked at the energy business in Arnand its Chemin du Pralet the road on the junction where the green 4×4 with the white roof is parked streetview doesn’t go along it.
Energie Habitat Conseil
153 Chemin du Pralet
http://www.energiehabitatconseil.com/
@Bluebird 8:53 a.m.: The Combe d’Ire and the Combe in your story are quite a coincidence, or a signature, perhaps.
@BB: More on the Five Eyes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AUSCANNZUKUS
Nowhere does it mention the use of ancient computers and floppy discs, which were used by Delisle to download the information he sold to the Russians.
@Tim V: That’s quite a list. The Ritz Hotel is one item that has special significance. What a tangled web.
Don’t worry about North Korea. Everything will be fine by the time the esteemed “ambassador” returns in August:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/11/world/asia/north-korea-kim-rodman/index.html
NR
12 Mar, 2013 – 7:15 am, apropos your “truth serum” I am reminded of the quote attributed to Khrushchev to Kennedy I believe, though I can’t now locate it – “The only difference between your “democratic” system and ours, is that you choose from two and we from one”. Increasingly it would seem, as regards the protections afforded citizens from arbitrary and oppressive actions by the state, the differences are also becoming increasingly illusionary.
From the previous wiki link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS
From that link to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%28signals_intelligence%29
The Dordogne is mentioned here:
http://www.zdnet.com/frenchelon-france-has-nothing-to-envy-in-echelon-3002079875/
Old but still relevant. This has been going on for a long time but strangely never officially acknowledged or inquired into. Much better to investigate journalists ear-wigging to get at the truth.
“With his death, Beckham’s name was added to a growing list of British scientists who’ve died or disappeared under mysterious circumstances since 1982. Each was a skilled expert in computers, and each was working on a highly classified project for the American Star Wars program. None had any apparent motive for killing himself.
The British government contends that the deaths are all a matter of coincidence. The British press blames stress. Others allude to an ongoing fraud investigation involving the nation’s leading defense contractor. Relatives left behind don’t know what to think.” http://rense.com/general74/22.htm
Big Ears and its exploits, including the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior in Operation Satanic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directorate-General_for_External_Security
Martinet among the names mentioned above.
Did these busybodies hide behind curtains?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4489787.stm
from Q
12 Mar, 2013 – 3:10 pm “The role of satellites in point-to-point voice and data communications has largely been supplanted by fiber optics; in 2006, 99% of the world’s long-distance voice and data traffic was carried over optical-fiber.[8] The proportion of international communications accounted for by satellite links is said to have decreased substantially over the past few years[when?] in Central Europe to an amount between 0.4% and 5%.[6] Even in less-developed parts of the world, communications satellites are used largely for point-to-multipoint applications, such as video.[9] Thus, the majority of communications can no longer be intercepted by earth stations; they can only be collected by tapping cables and intercepting line-of-sight microwave signals, which is possible only to a limited extent.[6]
One method of interception is to place equipment at locations where fiber optic communications are switched. For the Internet, much of the switching occurs at relatively few sites. There have been reports of one such intercept site, Room 641A, in the United States. In the past[when?] much Internet traffic was routed through the U.S. and the UK, but this has changed; for example, in 2000, 95% of intra-German Internet communications was routed via the DE-CIX Internet exchange point in Frankfurt.[6] A comprehensive worldwide surveillance network is possible only if clandestine intercept sites are installed in the territory of friendly nations, and/or if local authorities cooperate. The report to the European Parliament points out that interception of private communications by foreign intelligence services is not necessarily limited to the U.S. or British foreign intelligence services.[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%28signals_intelligence%29
“Five Eyes” emphasises a historic association of essentially British progenitor. It indicates a degree of trust and shared objectives. There is a strange ambivilence towards Israel which, depending on circumstance is treated as both threat and opportuniy, friend and foe. The significance of the five arrested Israelis witnessed variously seen celebrating and others carrying explosives on Broolyn bridge and their subsequent repatriation without fuss, should not be underestimated. Their role, one stated in recorded TV interview ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw ) was “to document the events”, a clear indication, with many others, that Mossad was aware of the plot and by whom. This is explosive and highly dangerous inside information that would threaten the lives of any who were tempted to share it, even to one of the “five eyes”.
Q
12 Mar, 2013 – 3:38 pm – We discussed this fellow in some detail posts passim. His name cannot have escaped your notice. Just yet another strange co-incidence?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4489787.stm
“He said it was very common for spies to operate anonymously on foreign soil and it was not unusual to be spotted by keen observers in the not-so-glamorous world of espionage.
It was easier to operate anonymously in a foreign country so one did “not have to give accounts to anyone”, he said.
Two Mossad agents had once been spotted by observant locals in Switzerland who had blown their cover, he said.
The UK Home Office said it would not comment on Mr MARTINET’s claims.”
We have certainly got a number of recurring geographical locations. You will notice that Liam Fox has at least FIVE recorded visits to Dubai in just one year. I suppose this could have been just for rest and refreshment as part of a longer trip but a Minister of defence presumably flies first class, even by private jet. Were his stops for business or pleasure? Then we have London and Paris, so important in the Al Hilli incident. Tel Aviv and Melbourne in the Zygier. Please feel free to add more. Rather like the extrordinary rendition flights, these connections can sometimes prove instructive.
Perhaps we should add Annecy, Milan and ? Spain to that. I wonder why Fox went there incidentally?
Fox is interesting as he is clearly mouthpiece of right wing elements of the establishment and arms industry, arguing for bold economic gestures, with an eye on Conservative Party leadership, having been prepared to embarrass Cameron over defense spending in the past and been guilty of potentially serious breaches of security and protocol himself.
TRANSLATION: Teeth squeaky at the DGSE, the French intelligence service, after the fiasco of the Somalia operation to free the hostages, a service agent, which resulted in the death of two men Special Forces. “A complete failure,” sighs a former member of “big ears”. The patron service, Erard Corbin de Mangoux appointed by Nicolas Sarkozy in 2008, is on the spot. Discreet consultations for replacement by the summer, are already underway.
Writing – Le Journal du Dimanche
Sunday, February 3, 2013″
http://www.lejdd.fr/Societe/Actualite/Le-patron-de-la-DGSE-sur-la-sellette-589548
….OR COULD IT HAVE BEEN THE FIASCO OF cOMBE’DIRE?
@Tim V: The Ben Zygier case makes the old new. There is no doubt in my mind that Mossad would be hanging around the Haute Savoie, near the Swiss border, where people can cross into Switzerland daily on work passes. That arrangement came about due to CERN. Other agencies are likely there, too.
Back to those observers hanging around Saad al-Hilli’s home in 2003…
As for interception of internet communications, how do we explain the odd case from across the pond of a private internet cable provider wiping out all clients’ incoming emails? They said it was a mistake. However, wouldn’t it be efficient for certain agencies to hire the private internet providers to supply this service for a fee? This would reduce the need for the large, expensive buildings and equipment some countries have built expressly for this purpose. In a roundabout way, this takes us back to the previous discussion of the company in Milan and the Ben Zygier story, I suppose.
“Remember his name: Erard Corbin de Mangoux. This man runs since 2008 the stronghold of the French secret service, the DGSE. To believe the scoop revealed Monday by the Italian daily Floglio It is under his responsibility that the alleged assassin of Toulouse, Mohamed Merah had access in September 2010 Israeli territory. In return, the young man had to bring those responsible for the information against espionage French. Mohamed Merah he was an informant of the DGSE? In this case still unclear, one thing is certain: the current leader of the secret services was appointed by Nicolas Sarkozy because of its proximity with the President of the Republic. Variance with the customary rule of a military appointment at the head of the DGSE, the Head of State has chosen to place one of his men, prefect career to oversee foreign intelligence.
After the indices a collaboration with the DCRI , this new element suggests a close and disturbing collusion between state security and the jihadist movement. Information here unrecognized deserves to be remembered: the end of 2001, the terrorist Richard Reid tried unsuccessfully to detonate explosives hidden in his shoes during a flight from Paris to Miami. A witness later reported by the program “Exhibits” of France 3, was particularly intriguing: according to an official control of the airport in Paris, Richard Reid could easily board because he had an Israeli stamp in passport. An interpreted finally as a guarantee of security for the boarding of a passenger nervous considered. For the man in charge of control, access-typically difficult-to Israeli territory meant that the tourist does not present any particular danger as he had been allowed to pass through one of the most vigilant customs in the world.”http://oumma.com/12077/un-proche-de-nicolas-sarkozy-fait-rentrer-mohamed-mera
@Tim V 4:37 pm: Didn’t we discuss the possibility that those responsible for the Combe d’Ire might already have been disappeared themselves?
Yet another reason the military uses Blackberry:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/03/11/bc-shaw-outage.html
The alarming possibility/liklihood exists that Mossad, in addition to incontrovertibly assassinating those it sees as enemies of the State, it engages in “false flag” operations behind “terrorist atrocities” in America, the West and elsewhere, designed to provide the necessary fear to galvanise public opinion against Muslims in general and those countries in particular that pose a threat to its security. Can it be co-incidental that all the countries in this category – Libya, Egypt, Iraq and now Syria, have been subject to chaotic internal termoil, effectively undermining their capacity to launch any military offensive? Only Iran remains to be disabled, to which it remains dedicated.
Lest we forget, in the strange world of what some call “conspiracy theory”, some theories come true, allegedly.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/mcgill-hospital-fraud-suspect-arrested-in-montreal-after-arriving-from-bahamas/article9661426/
OT.
Do you know whether or not a French agent directly killed Muammar Gaddafi?
Yes, French agents were directly executed Gaddafi.
Do you remember what date the regime of Bashar al-Assad gave the phone number to locate Gaddafi?
It was the first week of October 2011. Gaddafi was killed on October 20.
Can you confirm the involvement of two French air gear to stop the convoy of Gaddafi?
I can not confirm this. The air attack could be carried out by any country member of NATO, but the operation was controlled and directed by the DGSE and officials at the Elysée.
What French service was involved?
Directorate of External Security.
Do you think that killing Gaddafi is linked to his threats to reveal the corruption of Mr Sarkozy?
Absolutely. It was one of many reasons. The threat of disclosure of funding Sarkozy’s campaign in 2006-2007 have been the straw that broke the camel’s back and was taken seriously enough for anyone to want the Elysee Gaddafi’s death quickly. Do not forget that Gaddafi Sarkozy humiliated by not honoring most defense contracts signed and energy in the famous memorandum of understanding of 10 billion euros during his famous visit to Paris ( December 2007 – ed )
http://islamic-intelligence.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/erard-corbin-de-mangoux-est-la-cible-de.html
“Netanyahu is blackmailing the west, threatening to “crash” their currencies and destroy their economies.
In addition, it was reported in The Guardian that Britain has denied use of her bases in Cyprus, Diego Garcia and the Ascension Islands along with existing bases in the United Kingdom by the United States if any plan to enter into a pre-emptive attack on Iran is suggested.
Ministry officials have informed Prime Minister Cameron that an attack on Iran would represent a “war crime” and would be inconsistent with International Law. From today’s Guardian: “Military action not right course”, Downing Street says.
Britain has rebuffed US pleas to use military bases in the UK to support the build-up of forces in the Gulf, citing secret legal advice, which states that any pre-emptive strike on Iran could be in breach of international law.
The US approaches are part of contingency planning over the nuclear standoff with Tehran, but British ministers have so far reacted coolly.
They have pointed US officials to legal advice drafted by the attorney general’s office, which has been circulated to Downing Street, the Foreign Office and the Ministry of Defense.
This makes clear that Iran, which has consistently denied it has plans to develop a nuclear weapon, does not currently represent “a clear and present threat”. Providing assistance to forces that could be involved in a pre-emptive strike would be a clear breach of international law, it states.” http://islamic-intelligence.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/netanyahu-blackmailing-west-over-iran.html
The Obama administration has had American military, both on domestic and foreign bases on high alert since October 1. However, there has been no known terrorist enemy threatening the US. The enemy is called “domestic” but its origins are far from American.
Today, Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette was “fired” from his command of one of the three carrier battle groups back to Bremerton, Washington to face an investigation.
It is impossible to adequately state how unusual this is and how serious.
The Navy was clear that the charges had nothing to do with his personal conduct, no rape or sexual misconduct, no stolen money, no drug use, the things that usually bring down careers in the Navy, that and crashing ships into each other.
Gaouette was sent back because the Secretary of Defense found him unfit for command, sent him across the world in the middle of one of the largest combat exercises in history, one both timed prior to an election and one at a critical location, near the Straits of Hormuz in the Persian
Gulf.
Gaouette commanded nearly one third of the Naval and air combat forces in the region.
The decision was made based on a conversation with the Secretary of Defense who, at the end of the talk, believed Gaouette was part of a group of military officers who have been under suspicion for planning a “Seven Days in May” type overthrow of the US government if President Obama is re-elected.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/10/29/269376/us-military-planned-mutiny-on-the-bounty/