The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Perhaps he’s a Beverly Hillis Cop? (Sorry I couldn’t resist that one)
(Beverly Hills Cop (1984) – IMDb
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086960/)
Sorry that was for Bluebird
1 Apr, 2013 – 5:45 pm
Interesting find:
Formation FSA Brigade in Homs led by Colonel Marwan Al Hilli.
http://syrianfreedomls.tumblr.com/post/31920441137/20-09-12-syria-defections-and-new-unit
Note the date 20-09-12
Interesting
FSA Homs twitter messages instantly stopped on sept 10th.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FSAHoms/tweets
Also about FSA Homs (quote)
Medias have reported that “members of Free Army militia of Homs have raised the Flag of Israel in Kisin town in the Northern countryside of Homs and no further information is reported.
Have you noticed that the video of FSA Homs with Colonel Marwan al Hilli is the only one from the FSA Syria video list that has been removed? Why and by whom? “video is not available”
Another interesting find on google regarding saad al hilli:
Search google for
“marwan al hilli iraq”
The 5th result will be that one:
250+ results for “AL RAHA GROUP FOR TECHNICAL SERVICES LLC”. Page. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 … Marwan Al-Abdul-Hadi · Training and …ZainBaghdad, Iraq. Saad Al-Hilli · Founder and …
http://people.bayt.com/en/search-results/?full_name_search=AL+RAHA+GROUP+FOR+TECHNICAL+SERVICES++LLC&start=221
However, Saad al Hilli is no longer listed there. The result obviously is a google cached result.
What “founder” was Saad al Hilli?
More research requested!
The first result is also cached by google and links to a deleted report in al jazeera. Bits and pieces are left for us by the clean teams ….
So we have a confirmed google cache that Saad al Hilli worked for this company in Saudi Arabia!
What kind of fairy tales and BS did the media tell us?
http://www2.rgtsgroup.com/SubPage.aspx?pageid=154
Could somebody make a screen capture of that google search i had cited above, pleas? That is urgent.
We meed James for research on this military aerospace company urgently!
RGTS partners (BAE and Boeing)
http://www2.rgtsgroup.com/SubPage.aspx?pageid=143
RGTS customers (BAE and US airforce and Saudi airforce)
http://www2.rgtsgroup.com/SubPage.aspx?pageid=146
Metallurgy workers for RGTS needed?
http://www2.rgtsgroup.com/SubPage.aspx?pageid=139
So then, Saad al Hilli, a founder of (what?) worked for RGTS of Saudi Arabia.
Q
1 Apr, 2013 – 1:32 am in answer to your question
the jewish religion holds on to the old (testament). not much in the way of repentance or forgiveness there. just “vengeance is mine saith the lord”. whether this has any practical effect on the politics of the day between east and west is arguable. christians could be be pretty brutal too back along and certainly was no less vicious in the wars it prosecuted in the 20th century. was the legal/social development in the west a product of christian teaching and philosophy or in spite of it? we have moved from torture, burning at the stake, public hangings, capital punishment and are repulsed by flogging, stoning, amputations, beheadings and the like and regard them as brutal and primitive despite the fact that they are apparently fully complicit with koranic and mosaic teaching. as we noted earlier, although israel is a western style democracy, this did not prevent it initiating revenge killings for munich, which it was happy to label as “operation wrath of god” and ultimately it justifies its existence on divine revelation and supernatural events.
Re: my previous saad al hilli review.
This was the “Dutch” Saad al Hilli. My fault.
However, on Bayt there is a better history than we have had so far. He worked for Saddam Hussein in the 1970tees.
http://people.bayt.com/saad-alhilli/
Another of your interesting finds
Bluebird
1 Apr, 2013 – 11:24 pm. the strong british/french/swedish connection to the syrian uprising has already been noted. as has the suggestion that the Benghazi incident was actually a staging post for arms to syria via turkey. the resistance is essentially sunni, yet our al hillis are ostensibly shia. the assad regime is alowite but more shia than sunni apparently and of course alligned with iran and hezbolla its lebanese arm. where and how the al hillis fit into this maestrom is anybodies guess. funding for the uprising is coming largely from saudi-arabia so is that where this particular al hilli comes from. no doubt the money and weapons are not without conditions, some of which may include putting their man in control. alternatively “Colonel Marwan Al Hilli” may be a home grown syrian product who has defected. Do we know anything about him? i’ll go off and have a google.
http://syrianfreedomls.tumblr.com/post/31920441137/20-09-12-syria-defections-and-new-unit tenth down
http://www.proedgewire.com/emerging-markets-intel/the-eu-is-not-about-to-tax-private-bank-accounts-cyprus-is-the-result-of-geopolitical-chess/
Background information.
@Tim V 1 Apr, 2013 – 4:00 pm
That accords with my thinking, and is surely proof positive that the al Hilli family is being afforded now armed protection by HMG. Sadly, a bit too late for SAH and his wife and mother-in-law. Superman-on-a-bike actually didn’t cut it.
So the family is still at risk and your question from whom is entirely valid and right, but more to the point of that, why now?
Was the story planted on the Telegraph, notoriously close to the establishment and the military, to warn off the flics, just in case they had any notions of pinning the blame on our Zaid??
And talking of the flics, what precisely are they now saying about the attempts to access the Swiss bank account? What has happened to our Nigerian scammer??
Tim v.
Would a Sunni colonel raise the flag of Israel in a Syrian town? Would a Shia do that?
As a matter of fact, it was FSA Homs who did that.
There is no other mentioning of colonel marwin al hilli other than that pulled video. Why had it been pulled?
Yes, i know that Benghazi was said to have been because of Syrian weapons deals and it has a timely connection to the al Hilli murders.
So then, we have the al Saffars workung for Hezbollah/Iran and we have the al Hillis working for UK/USA/Israel.
Then we have an intermarriage Hezbollah/Israel in 2003 with al Hilli marrying Mata Hari Iqbal.
That is of course the script for every movie regarding a double agent. And of course we know that double agents are living a dangerous life.
Working for Israel was my first guess as a reason for the torturing of Hashim al Hilli during the Saddam regime in 1970, too.
About Shia
When you watch the al Hilli facebook sites and the females of the al Hilli family (e.g. watch the fb site of the finnish zaid al hilli and the australian marwan al hilli) and then look the young females and how they are dressed and how they are posing like models ….
Those are not only drop dead gorgeous women but they are not posing like shia. My first impression was that they are dressed and looking like jewish girls.
No matter if we are talking about Samara, Rozahna (al Helley, al Heli, that is all “al Hilli, just updated names in Australia for the reason of correct pronounciation of the names) or else when we look at other gorgeous and sexy al Hilli girls. They are gorgeous and in mini skirts and they are looking all but sunni or shia women. Some of them are working as photo models. Those are just my personal views and impressions based on my long experience with different people from different cultures and religions.
@ Mochyn 2 Apr, 2013 – 9:59 am
“What has happened to our Nigerian scammer??”
There’s reference to a trial, but nothing about the outcome.
Tim v.
One of the highest ranked Sunni teachers is an al Hilli:
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/02/09/193553.html
“Your” Saad al Hilli @ http://people.bayt.com/saad-alhilli/ is an interesting fellow isn’t he? At British universities from 1965 through to doctorate in ’72, then off to work for Saadam in ’74/’75. He even looks like the wily old dictator. Who the hell is he and how does he fit in with Kadhim and Hashim? “I think we should be told”.
@Bluebird
it comes up here..
http://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2006/02/20084913423705642.html
that was meant for Bluebird
2 Apr, 2013 – 12:54 am of course
Mochyn
2 Apr, 2013 – 9:59 am I am glad you agree. You could be right about the Telegraph incident to warn off other papers. It may have been wholly contrived for a more important purpose however: to warn off a potential assassin. As far as I can see, only the Telegraph carried the story and a picture of armed police arriving in force. Normally the identity of the reporters would have been likely known, indeed given the sensitivity of the case, it is highly unlikely the Telegraph would have allowed rooky journalists to go there without first clearing it with police, given the current Levenson environment. And why if genuine not other papers – we all know reporters travel in flocks – just look at Chevaline. On top of this a picture of a heavily armed policeman rushing to the scene whilst ignoring the cameraman? No this appears to be a staged job to put the message out. This time we’re not messing, and if you try a similar stunt you will be met by real bullets. Why the Telegraph chosen? Is it the ownership (the Barclay brothers) or the readership that determined it. Wasn’t it the Telegraph that led the charge on MP expenses fraud?
Tim
We have never thought about another sibling of Kadhim and Hashim.
It would be unusual in those days in Iraq that parents had two children only.
If the Dutch Saad exists then he could be their younger brother. Kadhim born ( i think so) 1932, Hashim 1918, Saad 1945?
Physically possible although a long time between the first and last born.
I think that the wife of the Dutch Saad is Azhar Hilli. She lives in the Zoetermeer area of Rotterdam. I will list their family later. They live in Sweden, Finland and Australia.
Hashim worked for the government, Saad (Dutch) worked fpr the government. Kadhim?
This case has been extraordinary from the first. From the involvement of the British Ambassador and British troops magicked to the scene, to President/Prime Ministerial assurances, to apparent investigative blunders and incompetence, to inexplicable finger pointing and irrational theorising, to blatant misinterpretation of the evidence and contradictory statements. We contrast the volubility of Mr Maillaund with the ominous silence of the British Authorities, the ostensible and superficial “close co-operation” with the significant chasms between approaches and reasoning, the most obvious being Zaid’s role and the fact that it has taken over six months for the French to gain even access to him! Then add to this confusion the approach to the children and to Mrs al-Allaf’s son, Haydar Thaher, 46, who we have subsequently heard nothing all adds to the intriguing nature of the case. The British obviously know what is going on but are remaining tight-lipped. More strangely none of the news outlets are asking questions of them. Is the Telegraph the only trusted one and what has it done to merit it?
TELEGRAPH 31.3.13 – “It emerged on Sunday that Zaid, who is alleged to have been involved in a dispute with his brother over a family inheritance, has been questioned by French police at his home in Chessington, Surrey, for the first time.
Shortly after this newspaper knocked on his front door to ask him about the development, several Metropolitan Police units, containing heavily armed officers, swooped on the address, accompanied by colleagues from Surrey Police.”
Where are the British and French really coming from is the question I ask myself let alone the Swiss and the Swedish. They have all met together apparently. Have the investigators been let in on the secrets or are they ignorant of the background? (Remember the obstruction between police and spooks in the Gareth Williams case never properly explained?) Are they really pulling together or all following their own domestic and SIS agendas?
You can understand the British wanting to keep the press away from the family and real story, you can even understand why police armed protection is now in place (though this is very high level police protection not your average panic alarm stuff and a couple of local bobbies) but why keep the kids isolated from the family, even if it is considered necessary to protect them? Surely it could have been arranged that a familiar aunt could have moved in to be with them at least? What threat could the family have posed? Maybe to influence the children to say nothing or to prevent the extended family from learning what really happened at the scene? Clearly despite initial muted objection the family has been persuaded to go along with the highly unusual segregation.
The French position has been quite ludicrous from the first, attempting to explain the incident away in a variety of Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau-like explanations – drugs, robbery, lone mad gunman. But why? Was it to protect the British, themselves, an ally or the perpetrators? Are they seen by the British as friends or opponents? Keeping up appearances is one thing, but true attitudes quite another.
Why don’t they all come clean and state what they know, rather than this charade that ultimately undermines all confidence in justice and what our county stands for. Presumably to do do so, would uncover such a can of worms that government and existing alliances could not withstand the shock?
Thanks, felix
It doesn’t appear in the mobile version of al jazeera, though.
I copy an excerpt of the article here because perhaps this is interesting stuff:
While the world focuses on high-profile kidnappings, Iraqis face the daily threat of abductions for ransom.
Most kidnappings in Iraq involve ransoms between $500 and half a million dollars, depending on the rank of the kidnapper and the victim.
The most popular targets are teenagers from affluent or influential families.
Marwan al-Hilli, 18, and a resident of Baghdad, was parking his car near his flat in the Salihiya district when two armed men aimed their guns at his head and told him he was being kidnapped.
He was held in a run-down house in east Baghdad and told his mother had looted a bank during the April 2003 lawlessness following the fall of Baghdad and could afford to pay for his release.
He tried to explain that his mother had died in 2001 but his kidnappers persisted, citing a neighbourhood source.
His sister, Fidaa, acted as negotiator and agreed to a $10,000 ransom.
Fidaa al-Hilli, 30, told Aljazeera.net: “Those monsters beat my brother so fiercely he suffered from it for months.
“He would scream as they tortured him while they spoke with me on the phone so I would accept their terms.”
Fidaa agreed to pay the ransom but also appealed to the Iraqi police, an uncharacteristic move in kidnapping cases.
Family of kidnappers
Ten days later, the kidnappers were apprehended and al-Hilli freed, but not before it was revealed that one of the gang was a police officer.
I copy the “missing” years of the Dutch Saad al Hilli into this forum before they are being deleted on bayt.com, too. On linkedin those years are missing and were obviously deleted there. Calculating backwards, we must assume that Saad al Hilli (Dutch version) was born about 1945/1946/1947.
Netherlands acted as a European Information and Technology Manager
at PRC Engineering The Netherlands
Location: Netherlands ,
Company Industry: Engineering
Job Role: Management
January 1980 – January 1985
1980 – 1985: PRC Engineering The Netherlands
PRC is a US based Engineering Company. For its subsidiary in the Netherlands acted as a European Information and Technology Manager.
Local duties are:
1. Setting up of the company’s (UK and NL) IT infrastruct… See more
1980 – 1985: PRC Engineering The Netherlands
PRC is a US based Engineering Company. For its subsidiary in the Netherlands acted as a European Information and Technology Manager.
Local duties are:
1. Setting up of the company’s (UK and NL) IT infrastructure;
2. Selecting and implementing a suite of Enterprise applications to meet the concern business needs.
International assignments are:
1. Marketing the concern products in the Middle East;
2. Management of specialised projects between the USA and the Middle East.. See less
Senior consultant / Business developer
at Pandata BV (CGS company)
Location: Netherlands ,
Company Industry: Information Technology
Job Role: Technology/IT
January 1975 – January 1980
1975 – 1980: Pandata BV (CGS company)
Pandata is the Dutch subsidiary of the French CGS Group servicing the IT market.
Senior consultant / Business developer.
Duties include:
1. Project Manager / Consultant to large organisation;
2. Developing new busine… See more
1975 – 1980: Pandata BV (CGS company)
Pandata is the Dutch subsidiary of the French CGS Group servicing the IT market.
Senior consultant / Business developer.
Duties include:
1. Project Manager / Consultant to large organisation;
2. Developing new business: generating 5 M€ revenue per year.. See less
Senior cosltancy/management
at Government and Industrial Institutes
Location: Baghdad, Iraq ,
Company Industry: Government Sector
Job Role: Management
January 1974 – January 1975
1974 – 1975: Employed in the Middle East
Performed various tasks in strategic IT advice to Government and Industrial Institutes.
Saad Al-Hilli’s Education
Doctorate , research
at University of London
Location: London, United Kingdom
Completion Date : January 1972
Bachelor’s degree / higher diploma
at University of London
Location: United Kingdom
Completion Date : July 1968
Bachelor’s degree / higher diploma , Electronic Engineering
at British University Education
Location: London, United Kingdom
Completion Date : June 1968
High school or equivalent , Education
at British University
Location: United Kingdom
Completion Date : June 1965
@Tim V 2 Apr, 2013 – 2:34 pm
By the ‘flics’ of course, I meant the French police, and by extension the French authorities, but again your point is valid that it could equally serve as a warning to the press.
Which again lends credence to the theory about a Defence advisory, or something similar, right at the outset.
Then again it could serve as a warning to the enemy, whoever they may be, for it seems beyond doubt that SAH and no doubt his extended family are, or were British assets. And the killings, if that is what actually happened, were as the result of a betrayal or double cross, probably involving SM, whether knowingly or innocently.
As you say, extraordinary from the first.
There follows a chronology and some salient facts of suspicious deaths discussed here in far greater detail. Nothing very new and obviously only a few deaths in the context of thousands of such, but never the less it may jog a few thoughts and connections. Maybe one conclusion we might come to is that there is not much to choose between the methods of the secret services, west or east, north or south; Jewish, Christian or Moslem; and a plague on all their houses. Just comes down to defending your own team, territory, resources and that all are equally anxious to hide their deeply ugly and nefarious actions.
Alexander Valterovich Litvinenko. Died in British hospital following the administration of Pollonium poison 23 November 2006 – Russian: (b.30 August 1962 or 4 December 1962 by father’s account) Probably by Russian SS. Worked for British SIS. Links to Mario Scaramella who now lives in the Haute Savoie region of France.
Sergei Leonidovich Magnitsky. Died whilst in Russian custody 16 November 2009 – Russian (8 April 1972 –) was a Russian accountant and auditor whose flagged up significant corruption in Putin’s administration.
Lachlan Cranswick. (41) Went missing in wintry conditions in near his home in Deep River, Ontario.January 2010. Canadian police find the body
June 16 2010 in nearby river. Mr Cranswick was Australian and attended Monash University. He was outspoken in claiming the three WTC buildings were intentionally demolished using military explosives.
Gareth Williams (born 26 September 1978) Died on or about 23 August 2010 was an employee of GCHQ seconded to the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS or MI6) who was found dead in suspicious circumstances at a Security Service safe house flat in Pimlico, London, on. Prior to his death he had contacts with both Russian and American individuals with dubious connections.
Ben Zygier (34) Arrested February 2010 died on 15 December 2010. Held joint Australian/Israeli citizenship. Died whilst in State custody in suspicious circumstances. Death not made public for over two years. A graduate of Monash University. A Mossad agent who allegedly worked in Italian front company and gave secret information to either Australian Intelligence or representatives of Hezbolla that led to Lebanon Government closing down huge undercover operation in 2010.
The 2011 Norway attacks were two sequential lone wolf terrorist attacks against the government, the civilian population and aWorkers’ Youth League (AUF)-run summer camp in Norway on 22 July 2011, claiming a total of 77 lives. Anders Behring Breivik, a then 32-year-old Norwegian right-wing extremist, subsequently arrested, tried and convicted of the murders.
5 September, 2012 Saad al Hilli and family members plus Sylvain Mollier at Chevaline, France. Significantly probably family links to Monash University and Hezbolla in Sweden as well as British and American Intelligence and the highest reaches of the Iraqi Government for at least half a century.
Alexander Perepilichnyy collapsed and died while jogging outside his Weybridge home 10 November 2012. It has now emerged that British police have been working with their French counterparts after establishing that on the day he died, Perepilichnyy travelled by Eurostar to London after spending three days in Paris. A wealthy businessman who sought refuge in Britain after supplying evidence against an alleged crime syndicate inRussia in association with Sergei Magnitsky. Toxicology tests on the 44-year-old’s body have failed to reveal a cause of death,
Aaron Hillel Swartz (November 8, 1986 – January 11, 2013) was an American computer programmer, writer, political organizer and Internet activist who committed suicide after being pursued on what many considered disproprtionate criminal charges by the American Government.
Boris Abramovich Berezovsky Russian (23 January 1946 – 23 March 2013) was a Russian business oligarch, government highly critical of the Putin Government. He supported Litvinenko financially.
Bluebird links an article in al Noor (Light) Foundation website on the great poet Abdul Razak Abdul Wahid (separate note below) to the al Hilli family
Al Noor – home – about us – building bridges of creativity and love among Iraqis – offices all over Iraq incl Karbala, Mosul, Kirkuk, Anbar, Basra. Establ in 2005. Officially registered with the Swedish authorities Registered as a civil society organization in the Iraqi Ministry of Culture. Malmo / Sweden tel number.
‘Search’ at the al Noor website for ‘saad al hilli’: first result shows list of articles written for al Noor by Zaid al Hilli (ornaments) either as “culture” or as “entries”
The second listed search result is a review of a book by Haitham Husseini al Hilli (ornaments)
http://www.alnoor.se/article.asp?id=149683 Research and intervention study in the book (expressed) about gentlemen Al Husseini ornaments – Part II 4/12/2012 (seems to me to be a review / recollections / reflections about a book – appears to mention many members of the al Hilli (ornaments) clan and their rise to prominence) Dr. Haitham Husseini ornaments adds a comment below the review 30/10/2012 (timeline seems odd) Mourns family Gentlemen Al ornaments Husseini, Fiqidha young victim, Engineer Mr. Saad ornaments, who was assassinated and his family precious hands of organized crime, in the fifth day of September 2012, while spending his vacation in France, while survived horrific incident, Karimtah Alaleutan, girl Zainab The girl Accessories.
and deceased expert specializing in the field of designs and techniques satellites, where he works and lives in the United Kingdom, and is where the outstanding scientific in his specialty, and was planning to promising projects to his homeland, in this vital area.
was born in Baghdad in 1963, a brother younger engineer Mr. Zaid ornaments, two sons facet late Mr. Kazim Abdul-Hussein ornaments, legal and businessman and industrial known, who left with his family to London in 1978 for security reasons.
Thus, the Iraq and the bereaved family, a son Bara, and expert prophet, and scholars brilliant, was an example of the Iraqi generous creative, which is a bright picture, and a source of pride for his country and his family, were interested in the Iraqi and Arab media and global incident, the gravity and the status of scientific and creative excellence of the deceased, May He Bari His infinite mercy
Starting point as per Bluebird 1 Apr, 2013 – 6:24 pm A few notes on Iraqi poet / patriot / ?political chameleon / admired for writings /not clear if liking his poems has any political or religious significance – no idea if there is an al Hilli connection to Abdul Razak Abdul Wahid – but these bits and pieces about him may be of passing interest. Hopefully there is a source of knowledge on Iraqi culture and society somewhere in the FCO / State Dept to guide policy making…..
In Oct 2000 the Spectator published an article by John Laughland who had visited Iraq and met Abdul Razak Abdul Wahid, the patriotic poet of The Sacred War (Iran – Iraq) and of the Mother of Battles “The whole civilised world, all the power of America, all their missiles and ships, have been against this little country for ten years. Yet they have not crushed our spirit.” He was close to Saddam Hussein who honoured him with high position. (http://antiwar.com/rep/laughland5.html)
POET RICH WITH PRAISE FOR SADDAM In the early 1980s, the president asked Wahid to choose a stretch of riverfront on which to build a house. The result was a 5,400-square-foot, two story villa in Baghdad’s Al-Qadissiya suburb. The garden is four times the size of the house and runs to the river’s edge, where cows graze on river plants. Wahid lives here with two of his four children, six grandchildren and his wife, Salwa, 71, a retired gynecologist. One son lives in London. A daughter lives in Paris. Sweeping his arms around his large library with its ornate wooden shelves, Wahid says: ”I live like a poet.” (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/814484/posts)
An Eyewitness of 42 days of bombing by Abdul Razzaq Abdul Wahid – Shock and Awe – a poet speaks – some of his verses
(his own website htttp://www.abdulrazzak.com/htmls/Observer.html )
6.9.2001 creative works of art (Poetry, music, painting, sculpture..etc.) should not be valued or judged according to the political or ethical stand of their “creator”.. I would certainly admire a good poem, regardless of who’s the poet.. Abdul Razzaq Abdul Wahid is a big supporter to the Regime (apparently at least).. but some of his poems are among the best I’ve read in the past two decades.
( http://www.aliraqi.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-7456.html)
on Monday September 4, 2012 in the office of Dr. Omar Al-Kubaisi In the name of God the Merciful the Iraqi community in Amman honors three poets in the Poetry symposium The poet Abdul Razak Abdul Wahid was honored as an appreciation of his poetic production in crossing to the alienation felt resistance
(http://www.albasrah.net/ar_articles_2012/0912/kobysi_050912.htm )
Mar 15 2013 The first part of an interview with Iraqi poet Abdul Razak Abdul Wahid He spoke about his loyalty to Saddam Hussein and his absence from Iraq since the U.S. occupation, saying that if he remained in Iraq after the occupation he would have been assassinated
(http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/programs/edaat/2013/03/15/%D8%A5%D8%B6%D8%A7%D8%A1%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%82%D9%8A-%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%B2%D9%91%D8%A7%D9%82-%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AD%D8%AF.html)
عبد الرزاق عبد الواحد his Wiki entry – born Baghdad 1929 – his Mandean religion – see linked entry on this
(http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%B2%D8%A7%D9%82_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AD%D8%AF )