The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Christian Chesnot “was kidnapped in Iraq on 20 August 2004 by the Islamic Army in Iraq with his colleague Georges Malbrunot and their Syrian driver Mohamed Al-Joundi. The kidnappers have issued an ultimatum to the French government: cancel the Law on secularism within 48 hours, in exchange Chesnot and Malbrunot would be released. A large number of people mobilized in taking their hostage , often organized by Reporters Without Borders , at least according to claims strongly disputed this association. Every day, reminder messages were broadcast on France Inter , read by well-known personalities.
After 124 days of detention, Chesnot and Malbrunot were released on 21 December 2004 . The place for non Philippe Brett and Philippe Evanno uttered by Marie Antoinette Houyvet first judge at TGI Paris, 30 April 2009, after more than four years of education 3 establishes the key role played by those it in this release.
According to The Times 4 , France has paid $ 15 million (11.8 million euros) for the release of Malbrunot and Chesnot his colleague. The French government maintains its denial of payment of any ransom.” http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Chesnot
Note Najaf. “o begin with, the two reporters returned in detail the first few hours of their abduction last August. For Chesnot, they were removed “by chance”. “We went to Najaf and it was a bit wrong way. We stopped to ask the way to the farmers. At this point, two cars arrived with a bang. They put George in the trunk, the driver and I are rear mounted. I spoke to them in Arabic to tell them we were French, we were journalists, ” said Christian Chesnot. Malbrunot, said, meanwhile, the organized nature of the kidnappers: “c e is not an arrest by bandits. The Islamic Army was a kind of compartmentalization of tasks: there are those who stop people on the road who question, those who keep and those who believe. “
by Myriam Berber
Article published on 24/12/2004 Last updated on 24/12/2004 at 16:37 GMT http://www.rfi.fr/actufr/articles/060/article_32646.asp
Tim v
It could have been the same Saad. According to Malbrunote.g. he was the guy who made the photos and the videos of the two kidnapped journalists who said that he is the “secret service” chief of an organisation and a computer expert, educated in the UK, and who could speak English and some French with them. However, Saad is a common name in Iraq and there are more computer experts of course.
What is interesting is the matter of fact that the first negotiated release of the two journalists was fixed for september 6 2004. Perhaps just coincidence.
Of course they must only follow the money. If this was fraud (an abduction ordered by French politicians or parties for receiving kickback money) then France must keep this whole thing secret. Without any doubt, there was/is an abduction mafia business in Iraq for ransom money. You order, they will do it. Some fake “terrorists” and some fake “islamic” requests will do it for media and public opinion and the government will pay the ransom. Follow the money! Perhaps follow some money back into France?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Julia#section_1
Tim v
That is related: Didier Julia
I read this name before in the German text i had linked, but i did not take attention because i did not understand the relation. Now i understood it when reading your french text link.
More on Didier Julia
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/19/world/threats-and-responses-commerce-europeans-strive-to-tighten-trade-ties-with-iraq.html
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Looting_of_Iraqi_Treasures_01.html
Quite the opposite Q
11 Apr, 2013 – 12:04 am. What I meant was people of that description acting a purely private capacity. In other words a massacre by lone criminal or mad person are just not credible. The fact that no terrorist group has claimed responsibility leaves only agents of States in my opinion (which I agree is of little consequence).
from your ref. BB: “Didier Julia (born 18 February 1934 in Paris) is a French politician. He was in 2007 representing the Union for a Popular Movement (UMP) from Seine-et-Marne in the French National Assembly, a post he has held from 1967. He is mainly known for his interference in liberation operations of French hostages detained in Iraq following the US invasion in 2003.
Didier Julia is doctor of State in Literature, agrégé in philosophy and university professor. He is in the Gaullist political family, a member of the UMP. He has been elected deputy for Fontainebleau since 1967.
In 1998, he supported accepting the votes of the Front National in the regional Council of the Île-de-France region.
He is a member of the commission of Foreign Affairs. A long-time friend of the government of Saddam Hussein, especially of Tariq Aziz, he was the leader of the pro-Iraqi lobby in the National Assembly until the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the United States of America and their allies. He is also a member of groups promoting friendship toward Saudi Arabia, Cameroon, the United States of America, Iran, Palestine, Syria, Zambia.” He effectively got charged, with others, of espionage and assisting a foreign power which curtailed his efforts to negotiate releases independent of Government and DGSE regarded by them as “dangerous meddling”.
Following up on a past discussion on these threads:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/apr/09/us-navy-laser-cannon-planes
Lasers are the future of warfare, and according to the article, the future is here. Weather is an impediment to this type of warfare, which is interesting, given that synthetic aperture radar satellites like this one made by SSTL, can see through cloud cover.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/29/sstl-designs-cheap-radar-satellite-uk-government-kicks-in-21-m/
The technology will be installed on an American ship in the Persian Gulf, and will become operational in 2014.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ponce_%28LPD-15%29
Yossi Gal (extract above at Tim V
10 Apr, 2013 – 11:16 pm) was the Israeli Ambassador to France. His cv is dominated by satellite technology hence the list of others attached. Is it co-incidental that the person killed at Chevaline had similar expertise?
“Gal was born in 1950 in Jerusalem. His parents were in 1948 from Morocco in the newly emigrated to Israel. [1] Gal studied at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem . In 1975 he entered the diplomatic service of the Israeli Foreign Ministry. During his diplomatic career has held various posts Gal. Among other things, he was the spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, DC and was the Israeli ambassador to the Netherlands . Within the State Department, he served as Deputy Director General for Economic Relations, after then as general manager, worked. From his post as Director General for Economic Relations Gal moved 2010 to the Israeli Embassy in Paris , where he Daniel Shek replaced as ambassador.”
An indication of his religious outlook:
“It was the head of the Defense Ministry acquisitions delegation in France, Maj. Gen. (ret.) Yossi Ben Hanan, who more than a year ago suggested holding the ceremony to the ambassador at the time, Daniel Shek. Shek, who was nearing the end of his tour of duty in Paris, rejected the idea. “The embassy,” he told Ben Hanan, “is a workplace and it does not need to serve for other activities. For prayers and Torah lessons there are synagogues.”
Several months later, after Shek had left the embassy, Ben Hanan raised the idea with the new ambassador Yossi Gal, who had taken up the position in November. Gal accepted the idea, showed up at the ceremony and delivered an enthusiastic congratulatory speech. He made it clear to the Foreign Ministry’s legal advisor that the Torah scrolls were brought in with his agreement and were not a gift, rather were loaned to the embassy.
In accordance with Ben Hanan’s suggestion, the two Torah scrolls were placed in a special ark in his delegation’s conference room at the embassy. From time to time prayers are held there and once a week a rabbi comes in and gives Torah lessons for those who are interested. No one will admit this officially, but it appears that the room has become a synagogue and study house.
In no other Israeli diplomatic mission abroad is there a synagogue or a study house, not even in countries where there is no Jewish community. In a handful of cases, approval has been given for establishing a ritual bath for Israeli diplomats serving with their families in Africa or Southeast Asia.”
INTERVIEW WITH YOSSI GAL, THE ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO FRANCE
20 janvier 2013 · by Romain Champetier ” I am quite pleased of the current state of the Franco-Israeli relation. In your question, you raised the question of Mr Netanyahu’s visit to France three months ago –on October, 31 2012- and going to Toulouse with the French President of the Republic, in order to empathize with the Jewish community. That was a moving experience. Since the killings of Toulouse, there has been a growing number of incidents directed to the Jewish community in France. While we look at it very carefully, we are impressed by the strong action taken by the French government. I am positive the French government will do anything to protect the French jews.” http://thesundialjournal.fr/2013/interview-with-yossi-gal-the-israeli-ambassador-to-france/
Our Man in Paris: Sir Peter Forbes Ricketts, GCMG (born September 1952[1]) is a senior British diplomat who currently serves as British Ambassador to France,
Prior to his appointment as National Security Adviser, Sir Peter had been the Permanent Secretary in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. Before he took over that position in July 2006, he served as the Permanent Representative to NATO in Brussels. He was also previously the Chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, leading him to give evidence to The Iraq Inquiry in November 2009.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ricketts
Sir Peter began his career in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in 1974 and served as the Assistant Private Secretary to former Foreign Secretary Sir Geoffrey Howe. Apart from Brussels, he has been posted to Singapore, Washington D.C. and Paris.
[edit]Personal life
Sir Peter attended Bishop Vesey’s Grammar School, Sutton Coldfield, and Pembroke College, Oxford where he read English Literature.
Sir Peter was knighted as a Knight Commander of the Order of St Michael and St George (KCMG), he was further promoted within the same Order as a Knight Grand Cross of the Order of St Michael and St George (GCMG) in the 2011 New Year Honours.[4]
Government offices
Preceded by
Michael Pakenham Chairman of the
Joint Intelligence Committee
2000-2001 Succeeded by
Sir John Scarlett
Preceded by
Sir Emyr Jones Parry Director-General, Political of the
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
2001-2003 Succeeded by
Sir John Sawers
http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/293557-off-terrorist-list-iranian-group-hires-ex-senator-as-lobbyist
Now they’ll expect a pallet of shrink-wrapped 100s like all our other close friends receive.
http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2013/04/12/haute-savoie-tuerie-de-chevaline-des-prelevements-adn-sur-tous-les-enqueteurs
Original:
Des prélèvements salivaires vont être effectués ces prochains jours, sur toutes les personnes qui ont approché la scène de crime, lors de la découverte de la tuerie de Chevaline, le 5 septembre 2012.
Une mesure qui va concerner au bas mot plusieurs dizaines de personnes, incluant les enquêteurs de la gendarmerie (experts de l’identification criminelle compris), mais également les pompiers et médecins qui ont approché le véhicule de la famille al-Hilli. Concernant les principaux témoins qui sont arrivés les premiers sur les lieux, le cycliste anglais et les trois randonneurs annéciens), leurs ADN ont déjà été prélevés et sont connus des enquêteurs.
Cette décision a été prise par les deux magistrats instructeurs du tribunal d’Annecy, en charge de l’enquête, après la découverte d’au moins un ADN inconnu sur les pièces à conviction découvertes sur le parking du Martinet, où s’est déroulé le quadruple meurtre.
Un ADN inconnu découvert sur un indice
L’analyse ADN de ces divers objets (douilles, morceaux d’armes…) avait été confiée à deux laboratoires distincts, celui de l’institut de recherches criminelles de la gendarmerie nationale (IRCGN) et celui du professeur bordelais Christian Doutremepuich. “Une procédure classique, explique-t-on au parquet d’Annecy, qui permet de ne pas mettre tous ses oeufs dans le même panier.”
Les protocoles de recherche utilisés dans les deux laboratoires sont en effet différents et les enquêteurs ont souhaiter se donner le plus de chances possibles de découvrir d’éventuelles traces ADN laissées par le tireur.
De fait, au moins un ADN inconnu a été identifié sur un indice, mais avant de lancer une recherche internationale sur cet élément crucial pour l’enquête, les juges veulent avoir la certitude que cette trace ne provient pas d’une pollution de la scène de crime, malgré toutes les précautions mises en place pour l’éviter. Ils veulent donc disposer d’une base ADN complète de toutes les personnes ayant approché du break BMW de Saad al-Hilli.
A noter que le procureur, comme nombre de gendarmes, échappera à l’analyse. Comme il l’avait indiqué lors de sa toute première conférence de presse, le périmètre de sécurité était déjà en place à son arrivée et il ne s’est pas approché du véhicule avant l’analyse complète du site par les experts de l’IRCGN.
Si l’ADN isolé lors de l’étude des indices n’y figure pas, les enquêteurs pourront enfin espérer parvenir à l’identification du tueur.
par Stéphane BOUCHET le 12/04/2013 à 19:23 Vu 4504 fois
Translated using google:
Slaughter of Chevaline: DNA samples from all investigators
Of saliva samples will be made over the next few days, all the people who approached the scene, when the discovery of the killing of Horses, Sept. 5, 2012.
A measure that will affect the bottom word dozens of people, including police investigators (forensic experts included), but also firefighters and doctors who approached the vehicle the al-Hilli. Concerning key witnesses who arrived first on the scene, the English cyclist and three hikers in Annecy), their DNA have been collected and are known to investigators.
This decision was taken by the two magistrates court Annecy in charge of the investigation after the discovery of at least one of the unknown DNA evidence found on the parking Martinet, which took place the quadruple murder.
An unknown DNA found on an index
DNA analysis of these objects (sockets, pieces of weapons …) was entrusted to two separate laboratories, one of the research institute criminal gendarmerie (IRCGN) and Professor Christian Doutremepuich Bordeaux. “A standard procedure, says the prosecutor is Annecy which does not put all your eggs in one basket.”
Research protocols used in the two laboratories are indeed different investigators wish to give the best chance possible to discover any traces of DNA left by the shooter.
In fact, at least one unknown DNA was found on an index, but before launching an international research on this crucial to the investigation, the judges want to know that this track is not from pollution of the scene crime, despite all the precautions in place to prevent it. They want to have a complete DNA database of everyone who approached the wagon BMW Saad al-Hilli.
Note that the prosecutor, as the number of gendarmes, escape analysis. As he said at his first press conference, the security perimeter was already in place when he arrived and he has not approached the vehicle prior to the full site analysis by experts IRCGN .
If the DNA isolated in the study of clues is not there, the investigators hope will finally achieve the identification of the killer.
by Stéphane Bouchet on 12/04/2013 at 19:23 Viewed 4504 times
@ Pink: So that could mean that if all the responders’ DNA is identified, and there is no unidentified DNA from the scene, the killer is one of the responders.
@ Q
The story has got a fair few hits so there is still interest out there ,if they have an unknown dna sample why has it taken so long to check it out I assume it must be from something very personal to the crime, not that I know much about the subject ?
Pink,
Very interesting article. Interesting on several fronts.
Blue,
Also interesting point you made.
Unrelated to this crime, I believe that the world of ransom payments is complex and yet lucrative with regard to other incidents and situations around the globe.
How it happens in Iraq, I have no idea.
If it turns out to be the DNA of William Hershkovitch we’re all going to have apologise to Trowbridge.
Or are we?
Interesting that once again, it’s the Telegraph that is leading with this story back in the UK, almost word for word apart from a few minor omissions.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9991789/Alps-murder-DNA-found-at-scene-could-be-that-of-killer.html
Funny Mochyn69
13 Apr, 2013 – 2:31 pm
“These “signatures” apparently include such suspicious behavior as taking part in a funeral procession or first responding to an initial drone strike. Last year, the United Nation’s special rapporteur on human rights and counter-terrorism, Ben Emmerson, said it’s believed that, “since President Obama took office, at least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they had gone to help victims and more than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes on funerals and mourners.””
http://rt.com/news/drones-us-al-qaeda-militants-649/
Mochyn69
13 Apr, 2013 – 2:35 pm the Telegraph certainly appears to be the preferred British outlet as we saw with the report and photograph of the armed Zaid response recently. Further Peter Allen their man in Paris appears to be on the ball. He probably has several high level sources that end and we shouldn’t overlook the fact that, as I posted above, our Ambassador Peter Ricketts has had top-level involvement with the security services (twice – once as chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee 2000-2001; immediately prior to Paris as David Cameron’s Security Advisor, a newly created post) He also held top jobs in the Foreign Office and as Permanent Representative to NATO. Time in Washington also. On a purely aesthetic level I couldn’t help noticing how he had appeared to have aged between his September and January interviews or this this just my imagination? His experience goes far wider and deeper that a conventional diplomat. If there is any secret intelligence on Chevaline, he has the background and contacts to know it.
Note just two of the people mentioned:
Sir John Scarlett – Director General of the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) from 2004 to 2009.[1] Prior to this appointment, he had chaired the Cabinet Office Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC).had worked closely with Alastair Campbell, then the Prime Minister’s Director of Communications and Strategy, on the controversial September Dossier.
Sir John Sawers – a British diplomat and senior civil servant. He is the current Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6).[1] He was previously the British Permanent Representative to the United Nations from August 2007 to November 2009. joined the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in 1977.[6] In his early career, Sawers worked in Yemen and Syria, on behalf of MI6.[7][1] He became Political Officer in Damascus in 1982 and then returned to the Foreign & Commonwealth Office to take up the roles of Desk Officer in the European Union Department in 1984 and Private Secretary to the Minister of State in 1986. He served two years in the Middle East as Ambassador to Egypt from 2001 to 2003,[6] and for three months was the British Government’s Special Representative in Baghdad[6] assisting in the establishment of the Coalition Provisional Authority as the transitional government during the Occupation of Iraq. He is a governor of the Ditchley Foundation, which aims to promote international, especially Anglo-American, relations.
SOURCE: WIKIPEDIA
That makes a most imposing triumvirate that will know all there is to know about the secret side of the killings and our response.
Now back to Peter Allen. He must be freelance because he has stories in Daily mail and Sun as well as telegraph – all differently owned. He was a source/conduit for the preferred story of of “Serbian Paramilitaries” based largely it would seem on the weapon first identified as a Czech Skorpion.
“The Skorpion machine pistol gives the game away – it is the signature weapon of the disparate and aggressive Balkan nationalist/criminal fraternity sometimes referred to as the Serbian Mafia.” said crispin black in The Week on the 12 september 2012.
( http://www.theweek.co.uk/crime/annecy-shootings/48966/gun-used-al-hilli-serbian-mafias-signature-weapon#ixzz2QME8B8Ep)
On the 4th Oct. 2012 Allen was saying “likely to have been victims of Serbian paramilitaries with vast experience in carrying out professional assassinations.”
( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213013/Alps-murder-carried-brutal-rigour-suspect-found.html#ixzz2QMCaCOGk )
By 21.10.12 he was saying “Police initially suggested the family had been slaughtered by a hitman — each executed with a “double tap” to the head, a method used by Serbian paramilitaries.”
(http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4600767/sun-visits-murder-scene-of-saad-al-hill-and-family-in-alps.html#ixzz2QMBes4St)
Later of course, not only were the Serbs dropped but also any suggestion of a professional or contract killing in favour of a lone, deranged individual escaped from a local asylum! Neither for abandoned Serbs or adopted maniac, was a convincing motive suggested.
Hard to believe:
*That these clots have thought to test evidence for DNA 6 months after the crime
*Or that results would take that long
*That responder/witnesses’s DNA samples weren’t thought to be taken before now
*That they would make an announcement about it, before they have done that elimination, allowing any potential Perp to be concerned and bury himself even deeper
They are either trying to flush someone out with a bluff or make it so obvious that this investigation is BS, that more and more of of us will lose the will to blog about it.
Now as to the latest re. DNA the first question to ask is why it has taken over seven months to get the results? Maybe it hasn’t and they have been sitting on them for some time. Why announce now? Why not just have got on with the elimination tests in the intervening period? The critical thing not clearly stated is where they have retrieved the DNA, there is after all a lot of it about. Even from the weapon and ammunition there are all the people in the supply chain. And as far as we know they only have empty casings and a small abandoned piece from a Lugger – or at least that is what we were told. It poses the point why if they had such a distinctive bit of a distinctive gun from the beginning, they put out the story of a Skorpion where it remained uncorrected for about a month? A lot of peoples DNA can become attached to a recovered item subsequently. Of more significance would be the victim’s DNA on other peoples items and objects. We have heard nothing of what tests were carried out on the people and vehicles apparently identified in the area have we?
And as to the argument as to the pristine nature of the crime scene – the jury is still out on that one. Agreed they created a “cordon sanitaire” and didn’t find a child victim for eight hours because of it, but by then there had already been at LEAST eight or ten people on site initially, followed by many more. The aerial photo next day, after a phalanx of troops, police and rescuers had been on scene, at least EIGHTEEN are still visible, only three of which have white overalls. Then we have the difficult to explain fact that only two days after all and sundry are allowed in whilst forensic items of blood stained ground, glass, bullets and other observed items are still on site! This is quite inexplicable and certainly is not supportive of an argument that best forensic practice was being followed. Indeed from the point of view of DNA it would be virtually guaranteed to ensure any results that post dated this would prove quite impossible to be relied upon.
As to the vehicle itself, arguably the most important piece of evidence, we have heard virtually nothing other than the script which states that following the shooting only WBM put his arm inside after smashing the window, until the forensic people opened the doors at 12 o’clock when they discovered the comatose Zeena. We do not know whether they started their work then and through the night under flood lights (there is no sign of any the next day) or waited for morning light. We have been told the first arrivals took video of the scene that would be critical evidence so soon after events but there has been no statement as to what happened to this. Was it retained or copied or seized by central authorities apropos the Pentagon bombing. Isn’t it time we were told? Aerial photos on the 6th September show the rear door open. We have never been told if this is how the car was found or if it was opened by police and when. We have never been told where one of the roof racks went and by whom or if anything was missing from the vehicle as far as could be ascertained. We have never been told who the hat on the dash belonged to or how the misinformation as to the location of the bodies put out by the news outlets presumably on basis of police briefings can be explained in relation to blood stains on the ground and why it has never been corrected. And if there was only one bit of the gun, how could it be subjected to examination in two labs? The first I suspect would annul the second. There is nothing in the statements or known procedure emanating from the French (notwithstanding Peter Ricketts total support) that inspires the slightest confidence in what they have done or what they are doing and it seems they do not much care what people think.
the Doug Seeburg /Sun photo used in Dauphine article, was taken at 1.19 (presumably 13.19) on the 6th September 2012 when a policeman can still be seen taking a photo/video of the rear of the vehicle with door wide open. http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2013/04/12/haute-savoie-tuerie-de-chevaline-des-prelevements-adn-sur-tous-les-enqueteurs
SAVOIE
A boat caught fire on Lake Annecy, the owner jumped into the water
http://www.ledauphine.com/actualite/2013/04/12/un-bateau-prend-feu-sur-le-lac-d-annecy-le-proprietaire-saute-a-l-eau “Engine failure”. These things happen!
Another vehicle with bullet damage. Note differences. http://blackstonian.com/info/2012/03/car-shot-up-in-roxbury-mayor-menino-tow-this-car/
Another picture of bullet damage to car (and interesting Fallujah article attached) http://www.antiwar.com/orig/jamail.php?articleid=2563
This Doug Seeburg one was taken at 9.54 apparently on the 6th September 2012
http://www.metrofrance.com/info/chevaline-creation-d-une-equipe-d-enquete-franco-britannique/mliu!PlIx99OAyETYk/
Almost two months after the event, France’s premier newspaper put this out, presumably on the back of top government sources, having had plenty of time to digest the circumstances and forensics. So this is the OFFICIAL VIEW, the one the government obviously wants everyone to accept. Can I be bothered to list all the errors? No I will let you identify them. There is no reasonable explanation for this other than the government want us to believe something that didn’t and couldn’t have happened that way.
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/infographie/2012/10/27/tuerie-de-chevaline-un-tueur-seul-determine-et-d-une-grande-brutalite_1782079_3224.html
The Chevaline Affair: does it tell us anything about Anglo-French relations? Having just read “A Line in the Sand”, James Barr, 2011, there was clearly a great deal of back-stabbing and mutual loathing between the two ‘allies’ in the 20th century. It was evident in the carve up of the Middle East post World War 1, subsequent Arab resentment in Syria, Iraq and Palestine, the machinations of the Free French during World War 2, France’s eventual expulsion from Syria and its secret support for Zionist terror. De Gaulle was typical of this; mistrust and grievance leading to revenge – the refusal to allow UK entry into the EEC. The book demonstrates time and again the suspicions and animosity, backed up by evidence, which government agencies in both countries had towards each other. Has the tendency to vie with, compete with or seek to undermine the UK in areas of foreign policy towards the Arabs, Iran and Israel stopped? (or vice versa) Giscard, Mitterand, Chirac, Sarkozy, Hollande see-saw in their support for Israel but what do they think of perfidious Albion? The examples of the extent to which the secret agents of the two countries spied on and engineered havoc for each other is amazing and hilarious. Such attitudes probably persist in conversations in private offices and clubs in London and Paris. The aim would be ‘how can we pin this on ….?’ and ‘can this be used to portray the despicable side of ….?’ (eg Areva, Money laundering, Space research, Iraqi oil – being some areas of current interest) Or perhaps blackmail is a stronger tool which secret agencies in the USA or Middle East can wheel out to control the story. If such is the context, in the end ….one guess is as good as another.