The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
im a bit late finding this site …ive been over there ……>
This is perhaps off topic (not), but Ben Fellows had received death threats and he is gone missing now, shortly after he had released names and police protocols on the internet. Police warned him to stay off the internet. Then were the death threats coming.
http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/police-warn-ben-fellowes-to-stay-off.html?m=1
Quote from above link: Again I invite Kenneth Clarke MP or any celebrity, producer or any Hollywood movie stars, who will be mentioned in the forth coming release of my Police tapes, to sue me.When Senior Detective Ben Lambskin and his colleague, known as Andy, left my home Andy warned me to stay off the internet…Ooops!If you need any more information please let me knowAll the bestBen Fellows
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Hmm, they probably didnt bother to sue him. They had other options ….
Was the al Hilli solution also a matter to avoid expensive and long lasting court action for somebody who knew too much?
“French prosecutors suspect a contract killer was responsible for the bloodbath near Lake Annecy because, “not a single bullet was wasted”.”
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Oh, so we’ve dropped the “lone crazed madman from a local mental hospital” and are now back to a “professional” killer then?
because, “not a single bullet was wasted” – and earlier the prosecutor stated the exact OPPOSITE! That the shots were haphazard suggesting an amateur had done the deed. Inconsistent isn’t the word!
hmmmmm You may find this interview with Michael Shrimpton interesting. He sounds VERY plausible. As barrister, past judge and parliamentary candidate, what you might call a “high-credibility witness”. Is what he says about “Murder on the Morning Cloud” (not you notice the Orient Express) far fetched or grounded in reality? It’s certainly hard to accept even for sceptical me. One of his perhaps controversial suggestions is that German Intelligence was behind a number of high-profile deaths including the Princess of Wales, Robin Cooke and David Kelly. Why he should single out German Intelligence – after all on the face of it an ally and friendly nation – is hard to determine. As far as I am aware in connection with Chevaline, German Intelligence only popped up once in public in relation to the origins of the million euro account or whatever. Bit strange as it was Swiss territory. See what you think. Somewhat reassuring that yet again he believes MI6 are the “good guys” who don’t do murder, although he adds a somewhat chilling rider to that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNelt33QP_8
that was rather prompted by yours Bluebird
3 Jun, 2013 – 9:34 pm
He had this to say about Chevaline:
“Wednesday, 12 September 2012
The Murders in France
These may be related to Operation Vulcan. The executed Iraqi seems to have specialised inter alia in airborne radiation monitoring equipment. It may have been kit he designed which was on that King-Air which crashed so mysteriously whilst on an overflight of the Olympics site. It may also played a role in spotting nuclear material on a German-owned freighter, recently abandoned on the high seas in very odd circumstances. Most at-sea rendezvous between freighters and submarines tend to arouse suspicion.
The police as usual are downplaying any intelligence connection, but since when have the police ever told the truth about intelligence matters?”
http://theshrimptonreport.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/the-murders-in-france.html
Then there are the deaths of Christopher Shale and Sir Christopher Moran, both of whom Shrimpton claims, were assassinated.
http://theshrimptonreport.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/the-murders-in-france.html
one wonders also about the death of Peter Morrison at 51, deeply implicated in numerous scandals and held by some to partly responsible for the down-fall of Margaret Thatcher?
Tim
The second shrimpton link is the same as the first one.
Please check.
Interesting source, though.
German intelligence did strongly cooperate with right wing NSU members who were funded and paid by intelligence “Verfassungsschutz”.
They have criminal records in shooting and killing police and particularly Kurds and Arabs in Germany. Actually, the rituals and way of shooting of the al Hillis is a personal card of right wing NSU killers. He might be correct.
As a matter of fact, the drones killing “enemies” in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq are being controlled in Ramstein, Germany but not in the USA. That had been leaked recently.
Also recently leaked were a number of bomb terror plots in Germany (e.g. Oktoberfest bombing in Munich) , then Luxembourg and Belgium bombings that were constructed by German intelligence under the order of CIA to blame “left wing terrorists” and to move public opinion into peace loving American right wing ideology and versus communism and socialism. Unfortunately i have not found an English source yet. Americans dont want to be leaked as terrorists and obviously therefore there is no english text allowed to exist.
Do you know more about that King Air crash near the Olympics site he had mentioned?
Beechcraft King Air seems to crash every month somewhere (must be a save plane). However, i cannot find anything regarding London.
James, we need you!
re: Woolwich
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2335224/Street-killing-soldier-Lee-Rigby-faked-claim-members-controversial-London-universitys-Islamic-society.html
What can the DM be thinking, lending the oxygen of publicity to these baseless conspiracy theories!?
What is operation Vulcan?
I don’t believe that he means something happening in WW2 or in Vietnam.
The only current operation Vulcan i was able to find was that one.
http://www.srmti.com/news/operation-vulcan-cutting-metal-crime-10410/
But it doesnt really fit. So then, what does he mean?
I didnt find anything regarding his “nuclear material on German owned freighter”. Any clues?
However, i found that: (though the sources are somewhat obscure)
http://johnkettler.com/etseds-raid-germany-take-dolphin-sub-nuke/
German built Dolphin class submarine. These don’t normally disappear while still in port. They are on the surface FGS.EXTRACT from Veterans Today -A nuclear weapon that wasn’t supposed to exist, a single 500 kiloton hydrogen bomb, one of four being tracked, was seen being loaded at the German port of Bemerhaven, Germany.The groups assisting in what we were informed was a counter-terrorism surveillance operation were the American NSA, British MI 6, the Office of Naval Intelligence and the British Royal Navy. The “device” was loaded onto a Germany built “Dolphin” submarine and left the harbour doing 7.5 knots.The submarine disappeared while being tracked by every sophisticated device NATO seems to be able to own or borrow.
At least one of those from among the listed agencies was arrested by the local police force in Oxford, their electronic surveillance gear siezed, were confined for 12 hours despite being above arrest and detention as a senior NATO intelligence officer.
Gordon Duff of Veterans today has an important story from Germany where a Dolphin class sub has disappeared with a 500 kiloton nuclear weapon:http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/30/raw-reports-nuclear-threat-from-germany/There is a big British angle to this story, with Theresa May involved. The Rothschilds are widely expected to be preparing a false flag attack on the London (ZION) Olympics. This may be it. One way or another, the PTB are cooking up something big in furtherance of their programme of global chaos and pauperization.
this fits rather neatly BB with the German thing. He suggests they play off other agencies to distract attention from themselves. Have you come across this fellow before. Worth watching. Apparently he’s gone AWOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbpSrTtLgB8
Tim, the two spiegel links are english, however, they are from 2010 and although they tell new information, they do not include the latest information that NATO and CIA were behind the bombings in the 1980tees.
http://m.spiegel.de/international/germany/a-717229.html#spRedirectedFrom=www&referrrer=
http://m.spiegel.de/international/germany/a-717229-2.html
This is the latest investigation below. Unfortunately in German only. I could not find any english text. Nobody did dare to translate these hot news yet?
The son of a now dead German BND (intelligence) officer did reveal that his father did construct the bomb by the order of NATO and BND. The bomb was placed by nazi right wing gangsters who traditionally still work for german intelligence.
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/deutschland/gerhard-wisnewski/enthuellung-bauten-nato-und-bnd-die-oktoberfest-bombe-.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=0W3VI4kmzRk&feature=endscreen
Canadian Residential Home.
Pity that this does not exist in English. It is a miracle that ot exists at all because german media wasnt allowed to report (feb 2013). They were silenced.
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/deutschland/gerhard-wisnewski/gladio-skandal-um-geheime-nato-killer-enthuellt.html
All those bombings and killings were performed by NATO unit Gladio. Kremer was a Gladio officer. Now his son speaks out.
Kremer (whose father was the middle european gladio chief) says: “All Gladio operations in history were performed as a “false flag” op. The goal was to move public opinion into a certain direction and to use NATO owned media propaganda to blame a certain enemy.
After all GLADIO operations, some innocent people were randomly chosen to confirm that they were the terrorists/killers. Those who did not agree with the deal were killed. The others who did sign that they did it, were brought to court and jailed, but released early when they agreed to stay silent about the deal and to work for intelligence. Those who went nuts in jail and who became a threat for the truth, were suicided in jail, like the Italian who hanged himself although he had one arm only, and the Austrian, who hanged himself in jail although he had no arms at all.”
These are the first ever proofs about GLADIO terror ops in Europe.
Now i have found a (shortened) english translation regarding Kramer (Gladio). Only God knows why this was never translated. One of the comments knew the German text and he did provide a shortened version in English. Well worth reading.
Have we ever considered that Saad was perhaps eliminated by one of the GLADIO killer teams?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/14/bishop-richard-williamson-boston-bombing-was-another-false-flag/
Quote:
The Boston Marathon Terrorist Attack-Inside Job, with the Tsarnaev Bros. as patsies, is a carbon copy of the 1980 October Munich Beer Festival Terror Attack, where 13 people lost their lives and over 200 were injured, many with amputated limb, among them many were children.The German Official investigation put the blame on right wing extremists, the Neonazi Wehrsportgruppe Hoffman, whose leader, Gundolf Köhler (together with Karl-Heinz Hoffman), was identified and held responsible for the attack. He died when the bomb exploded.Now Andreas Kramer, a German historian, has stepped forward with the real story, after his father recently died. He says that “his father, Johannes Kramer was at that time working for the the BND, was in put in charge as coordinator by the ACC (Allied Clandestine Commission) of the OTAN as operative of Gladio-Stay Behind Terror Ops in Germany, Luxembourg and Belgium”.He further said that his father had confided in him that he together with others from the BND have planned the terrorist attack, that his father had infiltrated the Neonazi Wehrsportgruppe Hoffman, to recruit the patsy Köhler.The declarations of Andreas Kramer have stunned-shocked the German people and put many German Officials nervous, especially the Office of the District Attorney in Munich.Seems that what happened in Boston is a replay of the staged 1980 Munich Induced False Flag Terrorist Attack, to trigger a specific response from Govt. and to mislead the general public.
The main stream media have kept a tab on the NEWS. Seems the Munich District Attorney is not even interested in talking to Andreas Kramer about such breaking revelations regarding who was behind the Horror of Munich in 1980, to get to the bottom of this case. After all, relatives of the slain people have been all the time asking for a thorough investigation and demanding to know the TRUTH.The story was run by/in “La Vanguardia”, a Spanish Newsletter, I get daily in my mail to keep my Spanish functional and be informed, on May 11th.2013 *****http://www.lavanguardia.com/internacional/20130427/54371582415/andreas-kramer-he-golpeado-un-nido-de-avispas.html.About the seemingly illogical sacrifice of the Tsarnaev Bros., especially the well connected elder Tamerlan, history and past False Flags Ops consistently show that the Zion Talmudic Mafia & its NeoCons Sayanim have never hesitated to do so.They have no respect for human life whatsoever, only the END OBJECTIVE matters. They staged the events that led to WW I – WW II, killed more than 3000 innocent people on US soil on 9/11, Larry Silverstein got even billionaire from it… They killed Millions in Afghanistan-Irak-Syria, Bombed their own Embassy and AMIA (Jewish Association in Argentina HQ) in Buenos Aires. They attacked the USS LIBERTY, with napalm bombs, torpedoes and high caliber rounds, killed 34 seamen and maimed 137 of her crew, including her Captain, They did assassinate JFK, his Bro. Robert and possibly Jon Jon Kennedy.Now the same Mafia is working hard to get us involved in war against Syria and Iran.Tarmerlan and his younger brother were useful fools-patsies and as such extendibles as any.Please read
Please read NATO instead of OTAN in my first post. I do not intend to say that the Tsarnaev Bros. are guilty for planting the bomb(s). Only a serious-transparent investigation can explain what really happened and whether they did it or not. They were present on the scene, singled out from the pictures caught on camera and targeted for killing. That much I have understood from the info in VT and comments. By experience. I do know that we will NEVER get to know the truth, when staged events with political motives are involved.
Quote ends.
Remember the sketchy car repair shop that was involved in the Boston bombing story? I say sketchy because of a hastily-done, incomplete paint job on the shop’s exterior, the wrecks parked in the back alley and most of all the Brazilian owner of said shop, whose shop appeared to have gone out of business at least a year prior to the Marathon incident, but who claimed to be still operating it, and his unlikely account of that day. It’s amazing how he happened to be hanging around in the alley the day the media showed up, even though his involvement with the company, via Better Business Bureau, information, indicated his departure a year or so earlier.
Thinking back to the al Hilli name in Dubai and various auto/parts dealerships connected to the family name, although not proven to be connected to the specific individuals involved in the Chevaline affair.
http://www.yellowpages-uae.com/profile/dubai/al-hilli-auto-used-spare-parts-est/103259.yp
Now thinking forward to an airplane hangar in another country, which has recently come under scrutiny after a murder, allegedly for a vehicle, led police there. It is described by police as a “typical chop shop”, the difference being that this one was connected to an airline operation. That story involves a mysterious suicide of the business owner, now being investigated as a murder.
Could chop shops fund terror groups? Rhetorical question.
This is one of those minor details that is puzzling.
@ Tim V: I wonder if this is Lars from that other site?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/french-alps-murders-hero-cyclist-1928124#comments
BTW, Bossy is sometimes used as a name to call a cow.
http://pdca-one.blogspot.ca/2005/08/why-is-cow-called-bossy.html
I expect to learn that the Philippe Bossy interviewed for this latest story will turn out to be a cow. Another piece of useless trivia for the record.
Q
Wasnt a cow shot in the head? Or were those reports debunked and a joke?
I love the “hero cyclist” note. A hero pilot, then a hero cyclist. What’s next? A hero shooter?
Also he might have been moved from a RAF pilot into an airline pilot. What airline? RAF United? I can’t take all that MSMedia BS any longer. It makes me vomit when i read that prepaid propaganda.
Good quote Bluebird
4 Jun, 2013 – 2:46 pm. Thanks. Michael Shrimpton, who seems to know his stuff, makes the startling claim that children and drugs are being transported in German and Iranian submarines. We know the latter are a multi million international trade that links South America and Afghanistan to American arms and Iranian foreign policy; the child aspect is perhaps less well known. We have examples of “false flag” activity of which 9/11 was perhaps the most audacious and outrageous, yet the official line is still the accepted line by western governments and media, both of whom must know better. Boston was undoubtedly false flag which means we HAVE to maintain a healthy scepticism about Woolwich. Government assurances can no longer be taken at face value sadly even if the victims and attackers are genuine. We make a mistake if we think in terms of isolated factors/issues. We still haven’t discovered whether the disappearance of Stan Maillaud soon after Chevaline is in any way related causally or genetically. Shrimpton claims from PM Clement Attlee onwards, both Conservative and Labour notables were “German spies” as well in a number of cases involved in illegal sexual activity. The revelations regarding Saville raise as many questions as they answer in relation to why he was neither stopped or revealed. In his own words he suggested the reason the number of others who would be implicated. What you know can be as dangerous as what you do. The 2.20 quote by BB rather sums it up, to which no doubt can think of many additional examples, one of which was undoubtedly the Al Hilli family.
“Those who did not agree with the deal were killed. The others who did sign that they did it, were brought to court and jailed, but released early when they agreed to stay silent about the deal and to work for intelligence. Those who went nuts in jail and who became a threat for the truth, were suicided in jail, like the Italian who hanged himself although he had one arm only, and the Austrian, who hanged himself in jail although he had no arms at all.”
from mzt Fat Bastard
6-4-2013 at 16:29:09
This one caught my eye. If reliable, I wondered why a domestic house would be fitted with a commercial air conditioning unit? Is it so hot in Surrey?
“57099 Offered – Air Conditioning Unit – KT10 – please read
On offer is a Sharp split type air conditioning unit, this is the type that has the indoor unit on a wall inside the house at high level saving space and that is plumed to a unit outside, as you get in offices and shops. THIS IS NOT A PORTABLE UNIT BUT IS… saadhilli
saadhilli@…
saadhilli
Nov 13, 2011
9:55 am”
http://www.sharp-cee.com/cps/rde/xchg/scee/hs.xsl/-/html/airconditioner.htm
Not sure these are much use BB and I am sure you have come across them yourself but I will post them anyway.
http://www.ptfnasty.com/ptfVulcan.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Vulcan
Marilyn Z. Tomlins
6-4-2013 at 09:07:15
“Another mysterious death here and I smell a rat. A former head of the RG – Renseignement Generaux – the intelligence service of the police – has been found dead in his flat. The maid found him on turning up for work. He was RG head for 12 years until 2004. Was a Chirac man, and fell out with Sarkozy for revealing too much about corruption (financial and political) in France. This means he was head of the RG in 1997 when Princess Diana and Dodi were murdered. This is a man I would have wanted to speak to!!
People in such positions do rather turn up dead in their flats – or in woods. One committed suicide by jumping from the 2nd floor window of his flat. Yes, second floor! Found lying dead in the cobbled courtyard below. He was in his early 40s, unmarried.”
air conditioning unit
was too big for the house thats why he gave it away !!!
..what about the volkswagen engine ???
BlueBird (from up above)
“Do you know more about that King Air crash near the Olympics site he had mentioned?”
AAIB reported on a Beech B200 Super King Air (28 July 2012)
“The aircraft was returning to Cambridge Airport after completing an airborne communications relay task for the 2012 Olympic Games when it suffered a complete electrical failure.
This necessitated the use of the manual landing gear extension procedure to lower the landing gear.
The gear collapsed during the landing and the aircraft came to a halt on the runway.
The investigation was unable to determine the cause of the electrical failure and no fault was found with the landing gear system.
It is possible that the crew did not operate the alternate extension system sufficiently to fully extend the landing gear prior to landing”.
It was crewed by two pilots (PIC was 68), with two technicians in the cabin to operate the “relay equipment”.
The SIC was PF (pilot flying) and operating from the left seat (PIC seat). (Normal as second flight of the day).
They had a “complete electrical failure” at 18,000 feet.
It would appear that later no issue was found with the electrical equipment.
They had to clear London TMA (London area controlled airspace) as that would most likely have set off security alerts. And then they headed for Cambridge.
The “crash” was at Cambridge and most likely due to not having their “feet out” when coming in. No electric, no power to put you wheels down so it would have been done manually.
Was it the battery ? Generator went off line ? Flicking the Anti Ice on but knocking the wrong switch ? Any number of problems can happen.
But it did lose electrics….and it had been doing a task connected with The London Games. The “crash” however was due to the gear not being down and locked properly (no electrics so you can’t tell).
The accident was at Cambridge…not “into The Games Site”
Reg of the aircraft was OO-LET.
The other a/c that I understand they operated was OO-ASL
The company that operate OO-LET and OO-ASL is ASL.
http://www.airserviceliege.be/indexENG.htm
Tim….
Air Con unit for sale (offered I assume is for sale)….
because it was too big for his house !
Certain things spring to mind in the first instance.
A. Air con units are not that big ! They are designed for residential houses and apartments as a retro fit.
The ad even states it is “space saving”
B. An “engineer” that can’t measure ? That buys large household items that require fitting…on a whim ? Then has to sell them on because they are too big ?
C. Not a very “technically written” ad for an engineer.
What the hell is “plumed in” ? Something to do with Plums ?
D. Would a retro fit Air Con unit require planning permission from the local County Council ? Should be easy to find that application then.
Of course this could be for the French house.
Then it maybe indeed “too big”.
And I’m sure the first thing that you’d buy when “doing up” a run down hovel …is an air con unit !
Nah. I don’t buy into this at all.
Would need a lot more convincing from this fella.
James
Thanks for the king air report. I assume that there were no fatalities?