The Starmer regime’s attitude to the law, both domestic and international, has been diseased by the doctrine of unquestioning support of Israel.
This morning the Handala became the second vessel flying the Red Ensign to be illegally seized by Israel, without a single word from the UK, which has a duty to protect its vessel in international waters. Indeed British law applies upon the vessel and the Metropolitan Police should be investigating domestic law kidnap of the passengers.
That is in addition to the international crime of seizing the vessel.
Uniquely the UK has declared itself unable to judge whether war crimes have been committed by Israel, absent a decision by an international court. That position has never been taken before, is notably not taken over Ukraine, and is at odds with Starmer’s self-declared ability to judge that there is no Genocide in Gaza.
It also ignores the fact that the International Criminal Court cannot judge, while Netanyahu ignores their arrest warrants. The International Court of Justice case on Genocide is in very slow process, but Starmer has no difficulty in pre-empting the court by denying Genocide.
Volker Turk, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, has very roundly condemned the UK’s proscription of Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation, and called on the UK government to lift the proscription.
He also has called the UK to amend its Terrorism laws to bring its over-broad definition of terrorism in line with international law standards. Turk stated:
I urge the UK Government to rescind its decision to proscribe Palestine Action and to halt investigations and further proceedings against protesters who have been arrested on the basis of this proscription. I also call on the UK Government to review and revise its counter-terrorism legislation, including its definition of terrorist acts, to bring it fully in line with international human rights norms and standards
This is a remarkable development because nobody could ever accuse Volker Turk of being anti-Western. In fact his passivity, as freedoms are extinguished across the western world in order to stifle protest against the Genocide, has been a source of frustration to the human rights community.
It is a sign of just how absurd is the proscription of Palestine Action, that even Volker Turk has now decisively spoken out against it.
Let me give you a plain example of just how absurd the law now is.
The three young women from the Shut Down Leonardo group, who drove a van into the security fence of the Edinburgh weapons factory which makes parts for the Israeli military machine, were brought to court on Monday.
They were charged with Malicious Mischief – a Scottish common law offence of serious vandalism – aggravated by terrorism.
This reduces terrorism from the gravest of crimes, to merely an aggravating factor. The driver of the van has even been charged with dangerous driving aggravated by terrorism, which when you think about it is a hilarious concept.
To further underline that nobody really believes this is terrorism, all three have been released on bail. Can you imagine accused who had carried out a genuine terrorist attack being released on bail?
I don’t want to downplay too far the dangers. Malicious mischief is a dangerous charge – being common law, there is no limit to the possible jail sentence it might carry, and furthermore lengthy jail sentences for it can be imposed by a judge without a jury.
I am unsure that this offence should meet the bar of malicious mischief anyway. The Crown Office charging guidelines state that damage must be in the thousands of pounds and damage must affect others. They read:
Malicious Mischief should only be recorded where widespread damage is caused, where the value of the damage is considerable, or where there is disruption of power supply, flooding or similar. There is no specific monetary amount where Vandalism stops and Malicious Mischief takes over but any value of damage would require to be significant (several £000s) before a crime of Malicious Mischief is recorded.
The example given is deliberately damaging power lines and cutting the power to people’s homes. I am not sure a slight dent in a fence meets the bar.
But I also want to look at the women’s treatment as an example of the pernicious treatment of protestors since the proscription of Palestine Action.
The three are not accused of membership or support of Palestine Action. Yet they were arrested under the Terrorism Act and treated as terrorists. They were taken to the specialist terrorist detention and immigration centre in Govan and held there without charge for six days.
Today, @CraigMurrayOrg informed a protest outside Govan police station that three women had been assured this morning that they would be charged only with non-terrorism offences. Yet, by 3pm, terrorism charges had been made. What, he asks, is going on?https://t.co/ClyoJdtUE9 pic.twitter.com/1DpGtCdskH
— GGEC (@ggectee) July 20, 2025
That means that some authoritarian judge must have twice secretly signed off on the continuation of their detention. Why?
They were held strictly incommunicado. I helped organise the best legal support for them, and for six days their parents, supporters and I tried to get a message to them to ask for this legal team, but we were not permitted to reach them.
The women’s parents phoned and asked the police to pass on to them a message about the lawyers organised for them. The police refused. The brother of one of the women went to Govan police station, and was also refused permission.
The lawyers we had organised phoned the police, and said they had been instructed by the families, but again the police refused to pass on any message.
The women had to make do with the bog-standard duty solicitor service. Now the police do not normally have the power to hold people without charge for six days and to keep people completely incommunicado during that time.
The Terrorism Act gives the police those powers. But it does not mean they are obliged to use them. It is extraordinary that they refused all requests to tell the women about legal support, and was plainly gratuitous victimisation, designed to prevent the women from mounting the best possible legal defence.
Yet it appears that – from a conversation with one of them – within detention the women were kindly treated, and they had the impression the police also did not think they should be there. Questioning was neither harsh nor particularly probing, and apparently by identifiable Scottish police officers.
That is consistent with the decision to grant bail – they are caught up in a system of terrorist legislation, but none of those operating the system really believes in the narrative.
On 19 July I was present at St Giles Cathedral as eleven people from Defend Our Juries held placards identical to those which have led to mass arrests across the UK, stating “I Oppose Genocide – I Support Palestine Action.” They were there for half an hour in plain view of police, but nobody was arrested.
After the demonstration, a group of demonstrators in front of the Scottish First Minister’s office held various signs and wore various T shirts identical to those which have caused arrest elsewhere, but again nobody was arrested.
In the week since, three people have been arrested and charged with terrorism offences, in relation to the above. One, Mick Napier (in the centre with the microphone in the second photo) was arrested as he left the protest on Monday 21 July outside Edinburgh Sheriff Court, for the bail hearing of the Leonardo 3.
Mick actually came up to me and said he thought he was about to be lifted, as policemen were following him around. Five minutes later he was. Since then, plain clothes policemen have been to his home three times in a campaign of intimidation.
While the Leonardo 3 are out on bail, they too are suffering from various methods of state intimidation, including the freezing of bank accounts and loss of access to money.
One distinct possibility is that the state is suspending the full implementation of legal action over the proscription, until the hearing for a judicial review of proscription is concluded, as the key argument in the judicial review is the disproportionate consequences for free speech of the ban.
Judge Chamberlain had said in his refusal to stay the proscription that the fears for suppression of free speech were being exaggerated.
I reported on these attempts to suspend the proscription of Palestine Action pending the application for a judicial review. I could now not be simultaneously at the Edinburgh Sheriff court for the Leonardo 3 case and at the High Court in London for the proscription case, but fortunately Mohamed Elmaazi was on hand to cover the High Court.
Here is Mohamed’s report, slightly modified for context:
BEGINS
“I think what you’re doing is, you’re saying, you predicted this,” Mr Justice Chamberlain told Blinne Ní Ghrálaigh KC – representing Palestine Action co-founder Huda Ammori the morning of 21 July at the High Court of Justice – “and what you’re doing now is sharing evidence that they have happened.”
The judge’s remarks were in response to Ghrálaigh describing example after disturbing example of pro-Palestine and anti-genocide protesters being threatened with arrest — or actually arrested – across the country, ever since Palestine Action was banned as a terrorist organisation.
Ammori’s lawyers, Raza Husain KC and Ghrálaigh, made the oral arguments advancing the Claimant’s request to appeal the ban.
Before one can appeal a governmental decision – such as the Home Secretary’s order banning Palestine Action – they require permission to appeal.
Only two and a half weeks prior, on 4 July, Ammori’s lawyers unsuccessfully attempted to persuade the same judge to temporarily delay the ban from coming into effect until they had a chance to fully make their appeal – should he grant them one.
They argued that, given the both predictable and boundless implications for freedom of speech and association, the court should stay the Home Secretary’s ban to avoid irreparable harm from occurring.
They warned of dire consequences; not only for Palestine Action and its members but wider members of the public as well.
Husain and Ghrálaigh had explained at the 4 July hearing that labelling Palestine Action a terrorist organisation would result in a “grossly disproportionate interference with the rights to freedom of expression and assembly” not only of its members but also for potentially hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people across the UK.
But Chamberlain largely dismissed the more serious of the concerns as “hyperbole”.
“In my judgment, some of the consequences feared by the claimant and others who have given evidence are overstated,” Justice Chamberlain wrote in his 4 July judgment rejecting Ammori’s request to temporarily prevent the ban from taking effect.
“It will remain lawful for the claimant and other persons who were members of [Palestine Action] prior to proscription to continue to express their opposition to Israel’s actions in Gaza and elsewhere, including by drawing attention to what they regard as Israel’s genocide and other serious violations of international law,” the High Court judge wrote.
“They will remain legally entitled to do so in private conversations, in print, on social media and at protests” he insisted before adding that therefore it “follows that it is hyperbole to talk of the claimant or others being “gagged” in this respect (as the claimant has alleged). They could not incur criminal liability based on their past association with a group which was not proscribed at the time.”
Two weeks later, Chamberlain’s tone was somewhat modified. He appeared to accept that he may have been wrong. In fact, he actually reminded the parties of what he wrote by reading out part of his decision refusing permission.
Ghrálaigh told the court that the situation is “even worse” than even they had predicted.
One of the key arguments made by the Claimant is that it could not have been Parliament’s intention to grant the Home Secretary the power to ban a direct action protest network such as Palestine Action. This is partially why they emphasised, as strongly as they did, the actions of the police across the country since the ban took effect.
Members of the public “with flags, badges, t-shirts, and posters that support Palestine, oppose genocide and/or satirise the Government’s position on the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza” have been subjected to “heavy” policing and “other enforcement”, the Irish-born barrister explained.
“None of those had any relationship with Palestine Action” she emphasised. The examples Ghrálaigh outlined included:
1. Police stopping and asking protesters outside BAE systems factory to remove shirts reading “Free Palestine” because they may “breach the proscription order,” on 5 July.
2. An individual stopped whilst travelling through Dover by counter-terrorism police at the border for wearing a hat with “Palestine Solidarity badges” to ensure that they “weren’t a part of Palestine Action,” on 7 July.
3. A 55-year-old man arrested in Glasgow for wearing a t-shirt with the words “Genocide in Palestine, Time to Take Action” printed on it, on 12 July.
4. A 68-year-old man, also arrested in Glasgow, for holding a sign with the same text, reportedly charged and bailed under section 13 of the Terrorism Act 2000, on 18 July.
One of the examples that Ghrálaigh spent some time on was the case of Laura Murton – engaged in a solo protest on 14 July in Canterbury – who was stopped and threatened with arrest by two armed police. Murton was holding a Palestinian flag and had cardboard signs that said “Free Gaza” and “Israel is committing genocide”.
The incident was recorded and a transcript was provided to the court. But Ghrálaigh thought it worthwhile to read out part of the exchange.
Officer: “What’s your intention here today?”
Murton: “My intention is to wave this flag and keep Palestine in the public consciousness right now.”
Officer: “So, do you support any prescribed group?”
Murton: “I do not I do not support any prescribed group. I support a free Palestine and the end of genocide.”
Officer: “Can I get your details?”
Murton: “Am I required to give them to you?”
Officer: “Well, you may be committing offence at the moment. So, I just need to make sure that you’re legit.”
Murton: “What offence?”
Officer: “Well, as you’re aware, it’s now become an offence to obviously support a proscribed group like Palestine Action”
Murton: “Yeah, but I don’t I am not I don’t have anything on which says that.”
Officer 2: “I appreciate that. But the way you behaving at the moment would lead me to believe that you maybe. Giving me suspicion or grounds to believe you could be.
Murton: “What suspicion? That I’ve got a sign that says free Gaza. Holding a Palestinian flag and I have a sign that says Israel is committing genocide?”
“She has never been part of Palestine Action,” Ghrálaigh told the court.
Chamberlain noted that the police were overstepping because they simply don’t understand the law.
“My Lord may say that the officer doesn’t understand the law” Ghrálaigh said. “Canterbury Constabulary has not issued an apology. The Secretary of State [for the Home Department] hasn’t said that this is a misapplication of the law.”
Chamberlain responded saying that “there will be cases where the police get things wrong”.
“There is no indication that they are getting this wrong because no one has said they are getting this wrong,” Ghrálaigh insisted, noting that the armed officers later told Murton “we could have jumped out, erased you, dragged you off in a van”.
The ban creates a “Conundrum of doubt” as to application of terrorism laws.
“I think what you say is that if you proscribe a group like this, then it creates a sort of conundrum of doubt, and that affects all law enforcement agencies who themselves have got to take decisions, some of which may be right some of which may be wrong, but it casts a shadow over a number of things which may be…fall under the scope of the offence?” Chamberlain asked Husain. “You would say that that effect is one of the things that would need to be taken into account when deciding whether the proscription is proportionate?” he added.
“Indeed” Husain responded.
Although the Claimant’s grounds of appeal are too extensive to outline in a single article, it is worth briefly visiting some of them. This is especially the case as they help explain the relevance of how anti-genocide protesters are being targeted and arrested since the ban came into effect.
The Claimant’s request for judicial review of the Home Secretary’s decision to ban Palestine Action was based on eight grounds.
They include that:
1) The decision was made for an “improper purpose, insofar as she exercised the discretion conferred by Parliament for the purpose of banning a civil society dissent group”.
2) Banning Palestine Action represents “an unlawful interference” with the Article 9 (freedom of thought, conscience and religion), 10 (freedom of expression), 11 (freedom of assembly and association) and 14 (prohibition of discrimination) rights in the European Convention of Human Rights “of the Claimant, of Supporters of Palestine Action, and of members of the general public who advocate for Palestinian rights”.
3) The Home Secretary “erred in law in concluding that: (i) Palestine Action committed acts designed to influence the UK Government; and further or alternatively (ii) Palestine Action was concerned in terrorism, in circumstances where those acts that may (quod non) satisfy the section 1(1) TA 2000 definition are isolated and peripheral to the organisation’s methods and aims”.
4) The Home Secretary acted “irrationally in taking into account considerations irrelevant to the decision before her (whether to proscribe Palestine Action); and in failing to take into account matters that were plainly relevant to that decision”.
Irrelevant considerations include her assessment as to whether Palestine Action’s protest is “legitimate” in her subjective view and whether their protests “caused loss of revenue”. “Lost revenue is irrelevant” to assessing whether a group should be banned, they argue.
Relevant considerations the Home Secretary failed to take into account include the fact that Palestine Action “seeks to prevent conduct which it and large sections of the public reasonably consider to be genocide and breaches of international law”.
The Home Secretary also failed to consider the impact the ban would have on free speech “in favour of direct action against arms companies supplying Israel” and on “low-level direct action and civil disobedience against arms companies by persons not associated with (or no longer associated with) Palestine Action.”.
She also failed to consider the availability of other civil and criminal options apart from a banning order.
5) The Home Secretary breached her own policy “which requires that a decision to proscribe be ‘proportionate’”. No adequate proportionality assessment was undertaken.
6) The Home Secretary “violated the principle of natural justice by failing to give Palestine Action the opportunity to respond to adverse findings prior to her making the decision” to ban them.
One key document government document referred to repeatedly by the Claimant is the “open” version of the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) assessment. The JTAC document, which was obtained by the authors of this article, was repeatedly referenced by Ammori’s lawyers.
Ghrálaigh noted that the JTAC assessment, as part of its determination that Palestine Action has been involved in terrorism, focused on the August 6 2024 action targeting a key drone and surveillance facility for Israel’s largest weapons firm Elbit Systems, in Filton, Bristol.
The JTAC assessment notes that none of the activists, known as the Filton 18, have been charged with terrorism offences for the August action. Yet, in a truly Orwellian development, the Crown Prosecution Services have concluded that they should nonetheless be “considered by the court as having a terrorist connection.”
JTAC then considers that Palestine Action have “promoted terrorism” simply for “sharing footage” of the Elbit action in Filton, an action for which nobody has been charged with terrorism.
“JTAC has asserted that that was a terrorist incident and therefore that supporting it has become terroristic, it’s entirely circular,” Ghrálaigh exclaimed, in a clearly exasperated voice.
“They’re just looking at the statutory definition which includes ‘serious damage to property’” Chamberlain responded.
“Indeed” Ghrálaigh noted before raising an equally disturbing point.
Underneath the subhead “promotion of the 6 August attack” JTAC refers to Amnesty International and UN reports “about the Flinton 18 and their treatment and JTAC referring to references of those statements of concern, by Palestine Action, as evidence of them fitting the definition of terrorism”.
“We’re completely through the looking glass if sharing statements from Amnesty International and the United Nations can be construed as promoting terrorism” Ghrálaigh exclaimed.
“Well once again, JTAC is just looking at the statutory definition [of terrorism]” Chamberlain insisted.
“Well, my lord, the statutory definition cannot include sharing expressions of concern from Amnesty International and the United Nations… That cannot be any basis for determining whether an individual or organisation is concerned with terrorism!”
Significantly, even the JTAC assessment repeatedly states that Palestine Action “primarily uses direct action tactics, the majority of which would not constitute an act of terrorism” as defined under the Terrorism Act.
The JTAC document notes that it is “not the original document” but rather a “gisted version of the original” with “sensitive material removed or gisted”.
Blinne stated that any JTAC finding that Palestine Action has committed or promoted terrorism is not a legal finding and cannot supersede any decision by any jury or judge.
There are clearly many issues with how the authors of the JTAC report describe the overall context of Palestine Action’s behaviour, including by placing “Israeli genocide” in scare quotes.
The idea of criminalising an entire network as terrorist because, allegedly, at most three or four out of literally hundreds of actions could arguably be defined as terrorism – against property – is manifestly disproportionate, unjust and unlawful, the lawyers argued.
By JTAC’s own case, Ghrálaigh noted, there have been at most “four incidents out of 500” which even arguably satisfy some prohibited act under the UK Terrorism Act.
Even Chamberlain noted at one point that the JTAC “go out of their way to say” Palestine Action did not publicise or glorify violence against a person, in the one occasion in which it allegedly occurred.
A big part of the government’s argument against the High Court granting Ammori permission to appeal on Monday was that the courts were not the correct venue for the ban to be legally challenged. This is known as the “alternative remedy” argument.
The Proscribed Organisations Appeal Commission (POAC) is made up of a senior judge and two other people, including potentially someone from the security services.
“Judicial review is a remedy of last resort and permission will generally not be granted where a claimant has an adequate alternative remedy,” the Home Secretary’s legal submissions state. “In the present case, there plainly is an adequate alternative remedy available to the Claimant. Parliament has created a bespoke process, which includes a right of appeal to a specialist tribunal.”
The Home Secretary’s legal team argued that Ammori’s “attempt to challenge the proscription of Palestine Action by way of judicial review at this stage subverts this process.”
Sir James Eadie KC, lead counsel for the Home Secretary, argued that the correct procedure would be for Ammori or anyone else to go to POAC.
The problem is, unlike a judicial review which can be expedited, POAC could take months or even years to come to a decision. Unlike the High Court, POAC cannot “stay” the banning order and thereby prevent further harm from occurring.
Furthermore, judicial review could potentially impact hundreds if not thousands of current and future cases by providing legal certainty as to what the law is, Ammori’s lawyers noted.
POAC on the other hand can’t make a determination about any of the arrests occurring now and in fact it can only make a decision as to whether Palestine Action should be deproscribed.
Chamberlain challenged Sir James to explain what would happen to all the different people currently being arrested if the High Court refused to hear an appeal and make a determination as to whether the banning order reflected a disproportionate interference with fundamental human rights of the public.
Many defendants could be brought before Magistrates’ Courts, possibly to face a jury in a Crown Court.
“What about them? What if one of those people want to say ‘well, the proscription is disproportionate?’” Chamberlain asked Sir James “Either they can or they can’t.”
“The problem is that either of those answers is a problem for you. If they can take the point we are saying that POAC isn’t exclusive. If they can’t you then have an even bigger problem… because the proportionality of the proscription never gets considered by any [authority]”
POAC should be the exclusive place to challenge the banning order, Sir James insisted, even if that meant in the meantime people were unjustly arrested, charged or convicted.
“Whatever deleterious consequences flow from that flow because that’s the judgement of Parliament that they flow that way” James argued.
Chamberlain asked “If I am thinking in terms of discretion, surely it would be much better for the proportionality of the order to be considered in judicial review proceedings rather than for them to be considered in a Magistrates’ Court?” the judge asked.
“The difficulty with my Lords’ inclination” St James responded “is that it risks unravelling the statutory regime. If you put in a human rights challenge everything that we’re discussing flows, which is intensely problematic because it would tend to undermine the statutory regime.”
Ghrálaigh had began her oral submissions in the morning leaving the court with no doubt as to what was actually at stake.
“Israel has killed at least 28 children. A classroom of children killed every day for 653 days [since 7 October 2023]. Israel has done this while damaging or destroying every single hospital in Gaza. Israel is starving the population of Gaza…. People are literally, medically, wasting away. They are starving to death.”
“1,000 people have been killed, including by bombs, while attempting to access humanitarian food” she said. There is near consensus in the human rights field “that Israel is now committing genocide as well as other war crimes and crimes against humanity.”
“Israel is doing all of that with arms that are being provided” including parts for the F35 fighter jet “ by arms firms in Britain”.
“Direct action protest is not unlawful. It is certainly not terrorist. This proscription renders it so” Ghrálaigh asserted towards the end of the hearing, “even when it does not amount to criminal damage.”
Monday’s hearing lasted from 10:30am to around 17:00.
From around 15:30 to 16:30 the hearing became “closed” so that “closed” (i.e. secret) evidence and arguments could be presented by the state.
Ammori would not have been permitted to hear the closed arguments.
A special advocate was present on her behalf – not part of her regular legal team – and would have to do their best to challenge the closed arguments without consulting the applicant on whose behalf they are allegedly acting.
Members of the general public, including the press, had to leave the court and returned at 16:30 for the judge’s decision.
Chamberlain stated that, because of the complexity of the case and the fact that he heard “closed” evidence and arguments, Chamberlain’s decision as to whether he will grant permission for Ammori to appeal the ban will be made on Monday.
However, it must first be reviewed by the security services to ensure that he doesn’t improperly reference closed arguments.
The next hearing is scheduled for midday, Wednesday, 30 July. That is when we will discover whether Mr Justice Chamberlain will allow the appeal to be heard or not.
ENDS
Plainly this is yet a further example of how far into fascism the UK has gone. Chamberlain reviewed “intelligence material” for an hour provided by the security services, which almost with 100% certainty will include material provided by Mossad. This very likely will be fabricated and claim links between Palestine Action and Iran.
Huda Ammori, the Palestine Action co-founder who is seeking the legal review, will never be allowed to know the contents of this “intelligence” in order to challenge it.
Furthermore on Monday and Tuesday the security services will get to vet and amend Chamberlain’s judgment.
In the meantime, persecution is at a lower level until after Chamberlain’s ruling, but there continue to be outrageous acts by the police. I leave you with this one as an example of Starmer’s Zionist Britain: a wheelchair-bound man is lifted away by six policemen for wearing a T-shirt supportive of Palestine Action.
6 cops arrest & drag wheelchaired disabled man for Palestine Action t-shirt
Real felons roam free? pic.twitter.com/vzeaWCaIob
— Middle East Today🇵🇸 (@shekelazzam) July 27, 2025
I am now heading down to London for Chamberlain’s ruling.
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According to a Guardian report today, members of the House of Lords have claimed that the recognition of the UK of Palestinian state would break international law, because, under the 1933 Montevideo Convention, “to qualify for statehood under international law, a state must have a permanent population, a defined territory, a government and the capacity to enter into relations with other states”. The peers say that arguably Palestine does not meet any of these four conditions. The government dismisses the peer’s claims.
I agree with the peers. A “two-state solution” in any case would amount to grand apartheid, with a Palestinian bantustan. We need an end to apartheid and full democracy between the Jordan and the Mediterranean!
Why do you think these characters are suddenly piping up about the finer points of international law, having been totally silent about the whole accessory to genocide thing?
Why are they claiming to be worried about the Montevideo Convention, which the UK has never signed, but not about the Hague, Geneva and Genocide conventions, all of which Israel and the UK have flagrantly violated and all of which the UK is a signatory to?
Why ? Telephone calls from Tel Aviv reminding the fifth columnists that all those shekels they’ve pocketed requires them to do the goy grovel whenever bibi claps. Such a parcel of rogues in a nation …
“members of the House of Lords’ aka mouthpieces for their clients, UK Lawyers for Israel. A pernicious, bullying organisation intent on undermining UK laws in favour of you know who.
Craig has already rubbished this claim on Twitter. A reply to him reads, “the 1933 Montevideo Convention which has no signatories outside the Americas. No country in Europe, Africa or Asia has signed it and none of them are bound by it.”
And “Curious that “top lawyers” seem more worried about the Montevideo Convention, which the UK has never signed, than the Hague, Geneva and Genocide conventions, which Israel has flagrantly violated and to which the UK is actually a signatory”
M.J.
I think M’ Lords should watch more television.
All of the history is on there.
The reason why Palestinians haven’t got a a ‘ permanent population, a defined territory, a government and the capacity to enter into relations with other states’ is because Israel and the US has not allowed it exist or emerge and to stop it existing or emerging now and in the future they have turned it into rubble – death and destruction.
Hamas (as far as I know) is still the Government
A bit like them saying : you can’t be a Local Authority because you haven’t got a Town Hall, being as we bombed it flat.
My reservation about declaring Palestine to be a state is that it could leave Palestinians worse off. Would it not give the rulers an excuse to to allot Palestinians some miserably small area, maybe in Gaza but smaller, ‘deport’ all West Bankers into this new concentration camp, and consolidate what would be an expanded Israel? How would that move the whole of Palestine towards full democracy? And I haven’t started on the reaction of the resistance groups.
Another argument: the majority of members of the UN have recognised a Palestinian state. What good has that done them? Such recognition is useless in itself. What is needed are strong sanctions (BDS) on the part of Western governments, aimed at bringing about the end of apartheid, as in South Africa. Israel needs to be expelled by the UNGA, with or without the Security Council, just as South Africa was.
Craig is apparently writing up the court events of yesterday, although with a slightly sair heid from last night. I look forward to his diagnosis.
Of the appeal, not his temporary headache (!)
Was it not President Truman who opened the floodgates by accepting the state of Israel when announced in 1948 in the teeth of British opposition, it having held the Palestine Mandate to that point against the Zionists? Truman’s actions immediately empowered the new state of Israel and let the Palestinians hang out to dry with all the consequences that followed. International law had and still has nothing to do with it. It’s all about power. Starmer is simply looking for a let out from his hollow decision and he does have a shameless history of u – turns, so nothing new there if he does.
A U.K prayer for Gaza
Lord,
What kind of sacrifice is this ?
Is heaven and earth full of your glory ?
O’ Lord
Please explain this to me.
I see the spines and ribs of children; babies
Expiring, their emaciated parents starving.
Inside the wire fences, barricades preventing,
The flow of aid; unnatural, daming.
What is this starvation saying ?
Speak Lord,
I am listening.
Are there christenings in hell Lord ?
Do devils circumcise as well Lord ?
Is Genocide your will Lord ? …
In whose image did you make us all ?
We are waiting at the gates Lord,
Help us break these chains Lord,
Have mercy on their plight Lord,
Our infernos will not wait Lord.
Please bring us to the light Lord.
The last descent is getting near Lord,
Save us from ourselves Lord,
St Michael’s running late Lord,
Preserve us from your hate Lord.
Help us smash the gates Lord,
And rebel against their fate Lord,
As your servant Abraham relates Lord:
” Are you really going to destroy the just man with the sinner ?”
For we are in Gammorah.
Even Craig doesn’t or is afraid to say that labelling Hamas as terrorist is wrong. It is wrong because it encourages Israel to kill and starve Palestinans. Its a criminal act to encourage the killing of civilians be it internally or overseas. And get this Hamas only killed a hundred or so civilians on Oct 7th. 650 were IDF soldiers and 50% of the others by some estimates were killed by Israeli own fire.
Israel claim to have killed 1500 Palestinians on or about Oct 7th. Many of those were not Hamas as seeing the fence penetrated they rushed through it unarmed. And further more it appears Hamas were not aware of the music festival beforehand. One can argue that once there Hamas killed in self defense.
IMO, if you accept that Hamas, Hezbollah, Houties, and even Palestinian Action are terrorists then logically it follows that you accept that Israel, USA, UK, Germany and the rest of the scum are right. In my book this is morally abhorrent. End of.
Peter Mo
The ‘ narrative ‘ from the beginning was:
Hamas invaded Israel – it didn’t it invaded it’s own occupied land.
Hamas did this for no reason and the past attacks on Gaza are never cited as a cause.
Israel put the fence up ( not Hamas) and then couldn’t defend the fence.
Initially it was all Hamas fault that people got killed and now it is admitted that the IDF killed
their own people under the Hannibal Directive.
Even now the MSM are inferring that Israel is acting out of fear and the were acting out of fear before
October the 7th.
Which begs the question;
Just how were Hamas going to drive Israel ‘ From the river to the sea ‘ before October the 7th and now?
With a few small annoying ( fearful?) rockets and guns?
Now, that really would have been a take on David beating Goliath if they had done that.
The MSM and Israeli supporters are still trying to justify Israeli attacks on people in tents with the ridiculous defence of eliminating Hamas by eliminating Gazans and Palestinians because they are scared of Hamas despite allegedly beating them.
If Israel have beaten Hamas what the hell are they scared of?
Iran is what they are scared of but, being as Netanyahu never gave a crap about the hostages in the first place and doesn’t now, then he is willing to put Israel on a path to destruction ( if he is stupid or desperate enough? to stay out of jail ) to attack Iran again.
Of course the US could do the Donkey Work on their behalf but, for Trump at the moment, that is a hard sell which could finish him – never mind Netanyahu.
The US people don’t take kindly to US dead Military bodies.
Each other’s fate is now linked.
We, the People – demand:
The U.K. must rescind the over hundred year old Balfour Declaration as null and void.
Europe must rescind the League of Nations Palestine mandate that gave it legs.
The UN must revisit its postwar purpose of setting up the illegal apartheid entity well beyond its initial ‘borders’ built upon that mandate.
The Levant must be decolonised of the settlers that have arrived ever since – mostly as dual citizens and return them to where they came from. Or wherever they will be welcomed.
Their criminal squatting and murderous actions must be prosecuted and compensated.
The illegal entity must be deconstructed and revert to the original Semetic native peoples who lived there before the ziofascist endeavour was set afoot by dictate of a supposed hegemonic ‘British Empire’ government in a rushed decision in a cabinet meeting during wartime when that decision had supposedly nothing to do with that War.
Currently. Those idiot conquistador AngloEuropean imperialist ‘settlers’ are being led to daily more criminal actions.
‘S p r i n t e r
@SprinterObserve
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Al-Houthi: The Zionist regime is having fun at the expense of the suffering of Gaza’s children
The leader of the Yemeni Ansarullah movement, Abdul-Malik Badr al-Din al-Houthi, stated:
🔹 The Zionist regime has sent a group of settlers in an unprecedented and inhumane way to organize a celebration near the Gaza border.
🔹 The purpose of this gathering is to observe the suffering of the Palestinian people due to hunger, thirst, and siege. This act represents a clear symbol of enjoying the suffering of innocent people and deliberately humiliating Muslims.
🔹 At the same time, the Israeli army and settlers destroyed large quantities of humanitarian aid – including food, medicine, and drinking water – at the Kerem Abu Salim border crossing, and some of it was buried in the ground.
🔹 All this is happening while the people of Gaza are going through extremely critical and catastrophic humanitarian conditions.
🔹 The savage and criminal behavior of the Zionist regime, especially towards children and newborns, further reveals the depth of the humanitarian crisis and the scale of the tragedy caused by this regime.
Jul 31, 2025 · 4:16 PM UTC ‘
“The Levant must be decolonised of the settlers that have arrived ever since – mostly as dual citizens and return them to where they came from. Or wherever they will be welcomed.”
What happens those who are not so welcomed, and weren’t even accepted as good citizens in their lands of origin? A good example is master spy Elie Cohen. Because he was a Jew, he wasn’t accepted by the army or in the university. He wanted to be a good Egyptian, but they wouldn’t let him! So he migrated, joining relations in Israel, where he was stiil subject to some discrimination as an oriental Jew, living in a poorer Tel Aviv suburb of Bat Yam, but eventually became a respected master spy. The TV mini-series The Spy starring Sacha Baron Cohen is well worth watching, and comparing to the 1980s film starring John Shea, The Impossible Spy.
None of this is to detract from the need for sanctions to bring about an end to the current apartheid regime, and bring a full democracy in its place – but in my view that should include all present Israeli citizens, plus a right to return to all Palestinian refugees.
Gaza Tribunal, new organisation with a plan to iron out legitimate hitches in international systems and bodies.
https://gazatribunal.com/
Mentioned in a recent Schiller Institute interview with its President, Prof Richard Falk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwstoAtGW1g&t=3230s
Open letter of protest from Rashid Khalidi, author of The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine (ISBN 1781259348):
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/01/columbia-historian-rashid-khalidi-open-letter
Yes, the attempt to silence criticism against israel goes on everywhere, Tiktok just hired a new censorship boss…. an ex-IDF soldier:
TikTok hires former Israeli soldier to lead hate speech policy
TikTok has appointed Erica Mindel, a former Israeli military instructor to oversee its online hate speech policy.
https://www.newarab.com/news/tiktok-hires-former-israeli-soldier-lead-hate-speech-policy
There seems to be further zionist connections to Tiktok:
Jewish billionaires Arthur Dantchik and Jeffrey Yass support numerous Zionist causes, leading many to wonder why hate speech is proliferating on the service (Tiktok) they have a stake in
https://www.timesofisrael.com/tiktoks-pro-israel-investors-face-dilemma-as-platform-blamed-for-fueling-antisemitism/
This is farcical, and tellingy, by googling Erica Mindel, you get no hit on western news/outlets.
Imagine if Tiktok hired an ex russian soldier to deal with anti-russian content. Then, BBC and similar hypocrites would whine about it alright.
Gladly though the cat is out of the bag and the support for israel is declining, especially by young people
https://news.gallup.com/poll/692948/u.s.-back-israel-military-action-gaza-new-low.aspx
The poll also exposed that not even a majority of americans, supported israel’s attack on Iran.
The Two-State Solution is a ruse, a farce.
“This stance reveals a fundamental contradiction: a “state” without sovereignty is not a state, it’s a rebranded occupation. Israel’s actions, settlement expansion, annexation policies, & daily violence, genocidal rhetoric, demonstrate that the system is designed to prevent Palestinian statehood, not enable it. It’s not a bug, it’s the system.
The rhetoric of a two-state solution persists as a diplomatic distraction, masking the reality of apartheid while offering Palestinians a hollow promise. So what are you negotiating? A mirage? A hostage with a flag isn’t a state? Stop dressing up apartheid as diplomacy.
Let’s assume, just for argument’s sake, a Palestinian state was declared tomorrow, its functionality would be impossible under current conditions.
The proposed state would consist of two disconnected territories: Gaza in the southwest and the West Bank in the northeast, separated by a heavily militarized Israel. Israel controls all borders, airspace, and movement between these regions, rendering Palestinian autonomy dependent on Israeli permission.
A state without control over its borders, economy, or defense is not sovereign. The Oslo framework demanded a demilitarized Palestine, leaving it defenseless against blockades, settler violence, or military incursions. Even if Palestine were “recognized,” it would be a state in name only with:
No army.
No control over borders, airspace, or economy.
No right to defend itself.
No protection from bombs, blockades, or settler militias.
This is not statehood, it’s an open-air prison with a flag and better branding.
But more importantly: it never acknowledged the Nakba: the expulsion of 750,000 Palestinians, the theft of 78% of their homeland, the erasure of their right to return.
Even the limited territory promised under Oslo II, Areas A and B, roughly 40% of the West Bank, has been eroded. Area C, comprising 60% of the West Bank, remains under full Israeli control. Over 700,000 Israeli settlers now live in 150 settlements and 128 outposts, most built post-Oslo, fragmenting the West Bank into disconnected enclaves.
Settlement expansion and land theft have made a contiguous Palestinian state impossible. What remains is a patchwork of cantons, surrounded by apartheid infrastructure, that cannot form the basis of a viable state.
Instead, it asks Palestinians to accept symbolic scraps while their homeland is devoured and call it peace, when truth be told, that’s not reconciliation, it’s Western diplomacy laundering colonial dispossession.
This isn’t a “solution.” It’s a settlement of guilt, for everyone but Palestinians. The two‑state model is a corpse: cold, buried, kept artificially warm by leaders who want to say they “tried.” But geography, justice, and reality have pronounced it dead.
Symbolic gestures, like international recognition of a Palestinian state, are meaningless without control over land, resources, or security. The two-state solution has become a diplomatic prop, a way to maintain the appearance of progress while enabling occupation.”
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/08/hala-jaber-what-the-world-is-offering-palestinians-isnt-a-state.html#more
The clue is in who supports this ruse.
Eg. Starmer the zionist and Macron the granny botherer and the rest of the western nazis and complicit sand ni99ers.
They are only interested in what they can steal from the Palestinians and the bribes they can accumulate from the USA via Israel.
Israel has stated many times there will be no Palestinian state, they won’t allow it.
How does Starmer propose to ensure a two state solution can be implemented and maintained ? Or is he just a vacuous, lying, shit bag ?
These scum are happy to recognise an impossible fantasy, but are incapable of recognising the reality of genocide.
Morons or Mossad ?
Just how does your use of offensive language advance your cause, apart from relieving your feelings?
Well sorry if my bluntness unsettles you, but you do know that innocent people are being murdered ?
QHF: “Just how does your use of offensive language advance your cause […]”
What harm is it doing to Steve’s case?
And what sort of pearl-clutcher would you have to be to decide _that_ is the problem, rather than the case he’s actually making?
Given the ways in which POTUS and Mr Farage weaponize offensive language, I submit that we do not need to descend to their level. The suggestion that a concern for civilised discourse ignores human suffering is unworthy of this website.
QHF: I owe you an apology.
I had assumed you were complaining about Steve’s customary loose-tongued discourse which – while mildy objectionable – is quite understandable given the hideousness of the subject at hand.
However, I had not read the second line in which he indulged in entirely uncalled for ageism and then racism. So I apologise for my laziness and presumption of your criticism.
A report on the Electronic Intifida by Jon Elmer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGl5ug61DKI) shows that the IDF have made no progress in terms of their military objectives, though they have often lied about it. All they’ve done is kill civilians and destroy their houses, i.e. genocide. But drone footage is being leaked by Israelis, indicating pressure from within the IDF to end what looks like both genocide and a fool’s errand. While it is not possible for citizens in Western countries to support the Palestinian resistance movements (because it would likely be illegal), their resilience may well compel respect from the IDF for them as soldiers, and so contribute to the end of apartheid in Palestine.
Yes this Genocide have proved how usless israel is at waging “wars”. Sure their army is soooo powerful….comparing IDF to a completely defensless people that do not even have the basic of body armour to defend themselves. This is a bully-logic, making them feel strong by picking on the smallest class mate.
So, soon 2 year into the Genocide and not one of israel’s goals has been met:
While Hamas is decimated their operational command is still intact and their support have most likely grown amongst palestinians.
The “hostages” are still there and israel have killed many of them by their indiscriminate bombardment of Gaza.
They failed in Lebanon, Hezbollah is still there, they failed in Iran by their inability to destroy the nuclear facitilies and failed to incite a regime change.
They failed on the PR front worldwide
Some pro-israelis claimed that mossad’s op. in Iran and Lebanon was so aMaZinG and “james bond like” but really? Any intelligence service could in theory infiltrate another state like that but they do not do that because they understand that that is a red-line one do not cross but obviously the israelis lack respect for anyone but themselves/their own ethnic group.
israel is just a paper tiger, they are rude, obnoxious and loud-mouth but in the end of the day, the only thing they are able to do is shooting innocent people waiting for food and the worst thing is, they take pride in it.
Jack
I wouldn’t dis agree with a word you said but (and the MSM and even supporters of Palestine miss the key point:
The irony here is that the US ( the US people ) gives Israel 5 -6 bn dollars a year (officially).
AIPAC use a lot of that money to bribe – cajole and threaten Congress people to do X- Y and Z for the cause of Israel.
The point being constantly missed – and deliberately so is that Israel could not do what it does without the agreement of the US Government – Biden or Trump – there is little difference.
The MSM of course have to pitch the US as a Good Faith Actor/Broker when most of the sane world would not trust them on anything based on past history.
Two similar lying bedfellows who deserve each other.
The bottom line is pretty simple:
This will only stop if the US wants it to.
It doesn’t so, the murder and the mayhem and destruction will continue.
Iran is capable of stopping Israel but, stopping the US is a tall order.
If Iran wishes to survive as a Sovereign nation, it may have no choice but
to do it.
That’s the state of future play for my money.