Humans are naturally cooperative creatures. The ability of people to dominate other life forms on the planet, to produce a built environment structured to their needs, to ensure food and water supply, to develop complex civilisations and produce all kinds of structures and objects designed to enhance interest and comfort, and to interact on a social plane that includes communication of abstract thought – all of it is a result of coordinated endeavour.
This cannot be achieved without altruism. Ever since humans have existed, people have contributed to the communal good or to the individual good of other humans through acts of social solidarity.
It is of course possible to construct an argument that selfless acts are performed on the basis of expecting wider advantage to oneself or one’s descendants from the fruits of societal advancement, but it is not necessary to believe that empathy and kindness are a manifestation of subconscious selfishness. In fact it is rather perverse to do so.
The argument was popular in the West in the 1980s when dismantling the intellectual underpinnings of the welfare state was a prime mission of those in power. But it is counter-intuitive, does not survive introspection nor observation, and it is unnecessary.
In fact it is not merely in seeking directly to help others that humans may act without selfish motive. There have always been those, for example, who seek to advance the frontiers of knowledge for its own sake, because they are intellectually fascinated, without seeking to derive any personal advantage or even practical benefit to humanity from their area of research.
The quest for spiritual enlightenment or for artistic expression is often followed with no thought of gain.
Poor people, who can hardly afford to, give to charity. Those hundreds setting sail today on the Sumud flotilla to bring aid to Gaza put their lives in danger, from an opposition to social evil.
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Personally, when I investigated Israeli crimes in Southern Lebanon under Israeli drones and in the sights of Israeli snipers, or when I went to jail for revealing the truth of the conspiracy to imprison Alex Salmond, I cannot convict myself of any ill motive. I was acutely aware of my own danger and of my own responsibilities. A belief in the need to oppose the wicked actions of those controlling the power of the state, and a belief that knowledge of the truth is an essential public good, drove me in both circumstances.
I sat with Ghassan Abu Sitta in a Beirut cafe discussing the fortune he could be making as a plastic surgeon in London when instead he had chosen to work in circumstances of the most extreme professional stress and personal danger on earth, striving to save lives in Gazan operating theatres.
Ghassan is a Palestinian Scot; and there are dozens of healthcare workers with no cultural or ethnic connection to those they serve who have braved the terrors of Gaza to save lives.
Can you imagine how much more common altruism might be if the entire state were not constructed in order to teach us that it is abnormal?
Yet we live in a neoliberal society of which the carefully structured and regulated social model operates on the assumption that everyone wishes to gain maximum resources to themselves, and that the activities of a tiny percentage – who often do little discernible work in production – are hundreds of thousands of times more worthy of reward than those of ordinary workers.
It is not an accident. It is not the natural order of human society. All kinds of human societies have existed, and all have been constructs. They can be patriarchal or matriarchal, communitarian or hierarchised, religious or secular, aggressive or pacific.
Modern neoliberal society is structured around monetary systems that store wealth, in currencies that largely exist as digits in computers, and which are allocated to institutions and individuals through state-regulated systems that in no sense capture societal value as the basis of reward.
Take the UK’s richest citizen, Jim Ratcliffe. What is the basis of his wealth? Did he invent something? Did he pioneer a new form of management? Did he build vast new industrial plants that employed tens of thousands of people?
No, he did none of those things, and indeed arguably he did the very opposite of those things. All he did was accounting tricks with digitised currency units, and then indulge himself in football clubs and Land Rover nostalgia.
I have still never seen a satisfactory explanation of Epstein’s wealth, yet nobody finds it strange to associate with people whose billions have appeared through mystical financial structuring.
For a period of approximately half a century from about 1930, the primary function of states was seen to be ensuring the welfare, comparative economic well-being and social mobility of the vast bulk of its citizens.
From the Reagan/Thatcher era that changed, and the prime activity of states became the fine-tuning of the systems of finance and resource-holding in order to increase the concentration of capital. In other words the state became the facilitator of the relentless accrual of the assets of the nation into the hands of the already wealthy.
As a result we live in an incredibly unequal society, and one in which the living standards and income security of the majority are highly precarious, with disastrous social consequences of scapegoating and xenophobia.
It is at this moment that the major social disruptor of Artificial Intelligence has arrived.
Those of my generation did not usually foresee the impact of the internet. I remember typing green text on a black screen in Dundee in 1979 and being amazed I was playing Dungeons and Dragons with somebody in Manchester.
A decade later we had home computers that made noises I will never forget as they connected down the phone line; if you were lucky you would get a good enough connection to send a plain email.
There are those who foresaw the decline of city centres, the delivery culture, the fall in in-person business and social activity, the growth of corporate knowledge gatekeepers, state control of personal data, and all the other things that happened since.
I was not one of them. Similarly many people were talking about the effects of AI long before I started to give it serious thought. I remember visiting Julian Assange in Belmarsh and listening to his main views on the subject, realising that despite being isolated in jail he understood the subject far more than I did.
He was particularly worried about the centralised power that would arise from the concentration of resources required to achieve AI, and the potential for further abuse and population control by ever-expanding state power. I have to confess at the time I was hazy about what he was stating.
In short, I am not much of a seer. But I want to look for the moment at the more prosaic question of AI’s capacity to replace people in the workforce.
You can’t sit on an AI, and one isn’t going to convey the children to a camping trip: nor can you eat it. Manufacturing and food production will not be massively affected by AI (though design of course will).
What AI will be able to replace is the kind of financial pimping service for world oligarchs in which the UK specialises. Investment managers, insurance underwriters and several score kinds of banker are no longer going to be needed as humans. Vast swathes of civil service employment and administrative employment in the private sector are under threat.
I want to make, for now, just two very obvious points. The change is going to be much bigger in service-based economies like the UK and the other Western “post-industrial” economies. They have imported their needs from the non-West in return for payment based on their services earnings that will be largely redundant. I see AI as contributing to the shift in economic power from the West.
That is potentially a good thing.
The second point is that any advance that increases productivity with less labour ought to be a boon to all mankind, enabling people to work less and society still to receive as much in goods and services.
But as the AI revolution is starting at a time of maximum inequality, and where states are structured to reinforce that inequality; this of course will not happen. Unemployment will rise and people will be driven into desperate poverty, while all the productivity gain will be harvested by the billionaire class.
That is our immediate future.
The need for a more egalitarian society is urgent. The need to break away from systems that enshrine and glorify selfishness and greed is urgent. Otherwise the future is bleak.
We need a politics of altruism and empathy.
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I’ve been racking my brain to find a reason why the oligarchs do what they do. They can’t possibly spend even a tiny fraction of the wealth they control. Neither can they exercise even more power than they already do. So what is the point of accumulating more and yet more of either?
A common idea is that they think, whoever dies with the most money and power wins.
This concept is so batshit insane that it can be dismissed out of hand. And yet, what else is there for them? What’s the purpose of it all?
Total control, for eternity? Why?
Logically, then, they are all incurably insane. How do they keep functioning? Because, I’m certain, they aren’t truly intelligent but idiot savants. Savants, because they’re admittedly brilliant at what they do. And idiots because they can’t or won’t understand the logical consequences of their behavior. Once they run out of resources to plunder, they’ll turn on each other. That’s the hope I cling to.
Whether we’ll still be around to see that day is debatable. Me, no. My grandchildren, possibly, if tthey’re extremely fortunate.
A lot of them aren’t brilliant at all – they just made lucky bets. You wouldn’t call people who picked a winning lottery ticket brilliant. Musk is evidence of this, given his start, a few lucky ventures, and his utterly nonsensical fantasies about Mars.
Listen to Besos talk about off-shoring heavy industry into space!
In fairness to Musk, he is a good BS artist, or salesman to put it more diplomatically.
What they do have in common is a complete lack of humanity or conscience.
Skum, sorry, Musk for instance – he could be the world’s most loved human just about ever, by using a small fraction of his $0.5 Trillion to lift people out of grinding poverty, worldwide. Instead, what does he do? Makes ‘cyber trucks’ that suck, and promotes poverty, racism and bigotry.
Capitalism is psycho and gets more so as it gets more advanced. It is anti-society AND anti the individual.
What do you make of Skum’s brain chips, or “brain computer interface tech” to use the lingo? (Neuralink.)
That is what one should be talking about if one wants to look at the teleology of “AI”.
Going back a step rather than forward a step, mass carrying of smartphones is already a (low level of) fusion of people with infotech – a point on which Skum agreed with Netanyahu when they had their little public chat.
The development goes smartphone massification to “AI” to brainchip massification. Capitalism wouldn’t deskill on such a level unless it was profitable.
Please don’t be misled if there is an “AI” “crash”! After all, there was once a “dotcom crash”.
– “What do you make of Skum’s brain chips, or “brain computer interface tech” to use the lingo? (Neuralink.)”
It’s just another idea he got from Iain M Banks, the sadly now deceased Scottish author, along with the names of SpaceX’s drone ship landing platforms, and the term “rapid unscheduled disassembly”.
“So what is the point of accumulating more and yet more of either?”
Why do people collect anything? I don’t think the super-rich think of money as purchasing power, their monetary wealth is just a figure and the bigger it is, the greater they are, like points in a computer game.
In reply to your question, I would say that the oligarchy desire economic, financial and other physical manifestations of wealth because they can buy political influence with it.
We may not be able to see what tangible benefits come from having so many millions invested in bonds, shares, properties or trust accounts in tax havens – but the real benefits to the oligarchy come in being able to use this wealth to gain power and influence over governments and legislation to favour their interests, and cut out and eliminate rivals and threats to their continued accumulation of wealth in their core businesses and activities, other businesses / activities related to these, and beyond.
One reason why the global elites dislike the current Russian President Vladimir Putin so much is that in the early 2000s he had the then Yukos Oil billionaire Mikhail Khodorkovsky jailed for several years because among other things (such as fraud) Khodorkovsky was using his oil wealth to interfere in Russian politics and form a political party.
Of course these people are sociopathic but as far as they are concerned about what happens in the future, they have the attitude of an 18th-century King Louis XV who is supposed to have said “Après moi, le déluge”.
Whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad…
I asked Google AI this question. Here is a summary of the response.
Money is often not the main motive once someone has made a fortune. Ambition is often more important. For Tony Tan Caktiong, to “build bigger things and dream bigger dreams”. Warren Buffett , a passion for “playing the game of making money”. Steve Jobs driven by making “insanely great products”. Naveen Jain says that “making money is a by-product of doing things” and that money is simply a benchmark for success.
Some are driven by competition. Sergey Galitskiy explained that his motivation shifted from supporting his family to an “obsession” with competition. Larry Ellison: “I’m addicted to winning. The more you win, the more you want to win”.
Some are motivated by the scale of their potential impact on the world
Bill Gates transitioned from running Microsoft to global philanthropy, focusing on solving problems like disease and poverty through the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Jeff Bezos views his vast wealth as a means to achieve his vision of making space travel accessible for all through Blue Origin. N.R. Narayana Murthy, co-founder of Infosys, has stated he’s driven to create jobs and reduce poverty.
Some, especially those who grew up in poverty, are motivated by a persistent sense of scarcity and a desire to ensure long-term security for themselves and their families. Frank Stronach to “not be hungry anymore” and become a “free person” with control over his life.
Er bring back Christianity?
That is a truly inane comment, that nobody would have made in front of an audience of hundreds or thousands of people before the internet. They’d have been too embarrassed.
Suggest you try thinking about what the implications are for religious and spiritual beliefs as technofascism advances and non-alienated socialisation (not the equivalent of fetes in his lordship’s garden, policed by his lordship’s goons, with every sentence having to begin with “Heil, his Lordship” – i.e. not the internet) gets ever more restricted.
I have known poor people who have gained succour from religion in times of increasing hardship, and others who take the view that they prayed every day for 20 years and God didn’t help them.
There’s a lot that could be sensibly discussed here.
“There’s a lot that could be sensibly discussed here.”
There’s a lot that is sensibly discussed here, IMHO: https://globalsouth.co/2025/09/04/michael-hudson-romes-arc-americas-echo/
In particular, this:
The question is: how are they going to get rid of what Jesus said about Christianity? And so you had Augustine call in the Roman troops, and the Romans insisted that the local Christians support the aristocracy and turn in their Bibles. And there was a pro-Roman Christian church and an anti-Roman, and the original Christian church that was all for debt cancellation and protection of debtors.
Augustine said, well, you know, we have a problem. And the problem is Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount and the Lord’s Prayer that said, forgive them their debts as we forget their debtors. Augustine said, well, this is not about debt at all. It’s, forgive us our sins. Everybody has an inborn sin from Adam, and you need the church to intercede for you by freeing you from sin, by giving you forgiveness.
I think the ethics of the teachings of Jesus are enormously valuable. Sadly often perverted by organised religion.
I suspect that subverting and obscuring Jesus’ message and example is probably the purpose of most Christianity, by turning it from how people should behave into what people should believe.
I agree that the ethics of Jesus Christ are the finest example humanity can have. But the gospels were defined by the Council of Bishops under the Emperor Constantine. And he was guided by his mother Helena who was a true believer.
The Coptic Church retains Sophia, the feminine half of God. She is Wisdom while he is the Logos or Idea. They are unified in God.
Its value to humanity can be defined in terms of psychology, in terms of projection and transference, in that we all internalise our most significant relationships, which are often imperfect; but Jesus, God, Mary Magdalen (his co-healer) and Mary – Virgin, mother, and crone – are the finest archetypes. They enable cooperation, charity, and inclusion. There is no tribe, just humanity and love. I think Constantine understood this when he unified the Roman Empire under Christianity.
The bad guys are also in need of defeating by goodness, by love, forgiveness – and atonement. Revenge is unhelpful and cultures which destroy are unhappy.
Tolstoy analysed this brilliantly, which is why he is often characterised as a “Christian Anarchist”. The essence of Christianity is found in The Sermon on the Mount. But organised religion has been set up to enforce obedience to temporal authority, and has turned Christ’s message into a cult of magic and superstition. But there have been people through the ages who have seen through this deceit. Many of them were put to death as heretics. In our neoliberal society the devil has truly taken the initiative, and has even convinced most people that he doesn’t exist. Baudelaire said that this was his master stroke. Don’t fall for it.
When has religion ever supported equality ?
Gods at the top, the church and priests in the middle, the flock at the bottom. General society has adopted this system, hence the inequalities we see.
IMO sky fairies are just a comfort blanket for the educationally illiterate masses.
“When has religion ever supported equality ?”
Christianity, at the start,but the usual suspects soon got rid of that.
I’ve never met a Christian who took Jesus seriously, but it was better than nothing. Sometimes. Just.
like Marx wrote religion is the opium of the people
He also wrote : “I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.” 🙂
That went in the 1530s, it’s a bit late and far too boring.
Which variety had you in mind? It depends on how far you go back.
If we ask how Catholicism, at any rate, has illumined the problems of AI and inequality, here is a report of an address the pontiff gave on AI:
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-06/pope-leo-on-ai-exceptional-tool-but-cannot-forget-human-dignity.html
And here is a report on his addressing diplomats on the subject of inequality:
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2025/23-may/news/world/pope-leo-pledges-to-speak-out-against-global-inequalities-in-his-first-meeting-with-diplomats
If your own involvement is with evangelicalism, for example, or the Quakers, I’ll let you fill in the blank there. 😊
It doesn’t seem to me that AI presents any real difference in the direction of inequality, social divide and accumulation of wealth – with its malignant influence on politics and tax policy – that has taken place for the best part of the last 50 years.
Since the industrial revolution, wages had pretty much tracked productivity. That all stopped in the 1980s. While productivity continued to grow – surged, even – wages grew at about the rate of inflation at best. Particularly in the jobs we deemed ‘essential’ during the Covid days.
AI appears to be rather overblown in any case, just as all high tech projects hungry for investors have been for a couple of decades.
Smartphones and AI mean huge and increasing deskilling not just of labour but of social reproduction. There has been a huge concentration of wealth in the hands of the ultra-rich over the past 50 years. One question is will the rulers benefit from keeping the population at its present size as this deskilling and concentration continue, to which question is there seriously an argument for the answer being “yes”?
– ‘…is there seriously an argument for the answer being “yes”?@
I can think of two.
(1) The mega wealthy get mega wealthy by syphoning off a small proportion of everyone else’s productive capacity, so the more people there are, the less has to be skimmed from each, and the bigger the total accumulation.
Answer (2) is in Craig’s post:
– “You can’t sit on an AI and one isn’t going to convey the children to a camping trip: nor can you eat it. Manufacturing and food production will not be massively affected by AI”
When the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all…
^ One of the best lines Karl Marx ever wrote.
Richard Dawkins, Robert Plomin, Stephen Pinker, Charles Murray, and Google’s ideologist Ray Kurzweil – they can all do one. Their way of thinking isn’t so far away from Ian Brady’s.
Interesting that the left has no critique of AI or of technofascism more generally. But in some shithouse rightwing zine like the Spectator you can find an article that’s a tad sceptical. Similarly with Facebook: since there’s no criticism for about 3 light years either side of the Overton window (personally I reside much further than 3LY outside its lefthand edge), Facebook has to manufacture its own. Meanwhile I think most people with even a smidgeon of awareness expect the suicide rate to soar among young people in the next decade or two. You could say we are in seriously deep doo-doo. Those who have more than a smidgeon of awareness know that if the rulers are allowed to continue to rule, they’re going to go for an enormous cull on a 14th century kind of level.
Those who don’t agree with my take on the Overton window should ask themselves when they last heard a critique of the obvious pile of far-right cack called “IQ”.
The quote in bold comes from the end of Chapter 2 of the Marxist classic The Communist Manifesto. Reading what that chapter says about bourgeois families, I am reminded of Alexei Sayle’s joke explanation of the difference between a fascist and a communist. However we can’t fight that which we don’t understand, so I would recommend a comic book series on Communism by Treasure Chest magazine with an excellent foreword by J. Edgar Hoover, which can be read free on the internet:
https://pervegalit.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/treasure2.pdf
From my perspective Craig, you are still behind current developments. AI has proved itself to be artificial but not intelligent. The concept of creating machines more intelligent than the creator of the machine exposes the myth of AI. Where/how does the machine gain its intellect.
AI is simply a faster computer.
The threat to humanity has moved on. It is now the robot. Robots are a threat because they, like AI, are not intellectual. They are, like AI, programmed to respond in whatever way their creator chooses. And their response can continue regardless of any consequences. No intellect, no ethics, no culture. Just like a billionaire.
– “AI is simply a faster computer.”
This isn’t so. There’s a lot I don’t know about AI, but one method used is mathematical simulation of neural networks i.e. little pieces of brain, implemented on computing hardware. This is farfrom the most efficient way to simulate a neural network; having used conventional computers to show that the concept has sufficient potential to make investment worthwhile, it is far more efficient to make chips designed specifically to do so.
“AI is simply a faster computer.”
AI may not simply be a faster computer, but it doesn’t make it intelligent. See the result of a simple request to “draw a picture of a tandem bicycle and label the parts” here: https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/what-scaling-does-and-doesnt-buy
AI is a fast computer program. That should not be lost sight of. It’s by no means a wrong or facile observation. The rulers are trying to whip up fear and awe of AI, e.g. by using terms such as “an AI”, as if we’re talking about a realm of djinn or something. lt can’t be long until the Daily Mail or CERN or NASA says experts have experienced an AI becoming conscious and giving them an important message for humanity.
I don’t know about specialised chips, but far more “efficient”, if this means in cycle rate, would be to use quantum computing.
But is there much of a cycle rate race? How intense? On the home and office PC level, Moore’s Law stopped applying a while back.
You make a good point John regarding Robotics. Take the example of the dominance exerted by UAVs (Drones) in the Ukraine conflict. This whole technology has developed massively in the past few years, to the extent that there is now a wide variety of sizes, functions, makes and models to do every battlefield job imaginable. Joe Public will see the “trickle down” when they’re widely deployed in our towns, cities or industrial areas for the policing of civil unrest or protest.
A quick gloss on the point about British economic specificity and finance capital – this could lead to the position that London is dead. Certainly the economic predominance of London in Britain, which has no equivalent in China, USA, or Germany – is first and foremost about finance capital.
Singapore surrounded by Greece? Bit of a cliché, but not entirely inapt.
How much power does a modern computer chip use? It can’t be much; handheld touchscreen devices run for hours on a battery and barely get warm. But all the power eventually ends up as heat, so how many such chips would it take to generate say one kilowatt of heat?
Heat is usually regarded as a waste product of computing, and getting rid of it is a major challenge for data centres. But computer chips are dirt cheap these days and getting ever cheaper, so turn that on its head – make electrical home heaters out of clusters of enough computer chips to keep a room warm – and all that vast computing power becomes a byproduct.
Farm out the computing power by using strong encryption; surely that much computing power must be worth vastly more than the electricity it runs on?
Great idea, like SETI at home, but two snags occur to me:
1. This involves them giving you money for doing nothing, which is, of course, the wrong way round,
2. Burglars.
As per my previous posting. [Previous thread, @Stevie Boy, September 3, 2025 at 15:50 ]
“150MW of grid power …, which can support only about 35,000 H100 GPUs. “. Very, very roughly equivalent to power needed for 100,000 homes.
So the question is, where does the power come from for these proposed AI data centres ? Let alone the water needed for cooling them. Note that our power and water infrastructures are already at breaking point.
More pie in the sky fantasies from poorly educated politicians.
Stevie Boy
Yes.
What you could do in The West is create big deserts and stack billions of solar panels to generate the capacity.
Can’t fail.
Yours Jeff Bezos Musk Zuckerberg the 3rd.
The irony is that most of the deserts are not in the West.
Africa’s got loads of them.
“Let alone the water needed for cooling them”
Cooling water is not used up: you don’t put water in your car every time you put fuel in it.
True. But a lot of the cooling systems are not closed. So water is drawn, processed used and then flushed. Then the cycle repeats. This extraction affects the availability of local resources.
I very much doubt that AI server farms use cooling towers, but perhaps they do. I would have thought they would use air-cooled refrigeration units like air-conditioning does.
Check out Cory Doctorow if you don’t know his work already and want some thoughtful commentary on AI, tech, economics, etc.
It was obvious last summer they were determined to keep a voice like yours out of Parliament. The values of altruism and empathy could not be more starkly at odds with those of the British ruling class and their acolytes – insatiable personal greed, support for austerity, war and genocide, etc.
Mr Adnan Hussain suddenly appeared out of nowhere soon after you announced you were standing in Blackburn, an ‘independent’ whose campaign was run by Jack Straw’s campaign manager. It has subsequently emerged that Mr Hussain is a landlord and a fan of private schools and ISIS/al-Quaeda kingpin al-Jolani. What do we imagine his attitude would be towards the Genocide if the people in Gaza were Shia rather than Sunni?
Now he has been elevated into position as secretary of this nascent leftwing party, with a similarly intetesting characterJames Schneider its official spokesman.
Do you consider this to be fine judgement on Corbyn’s part? I hope you get an opportunity to question him about these figures, who are apparently going to bring Britain a politics of empathy and altruism.
“Do you consider this to be fine judgement on Corbyn’s part? ”
If Jeremy Corbyn was a good judge of character, he’d probably be PM today.
Hope I am wrong but with characters like those near the helm it could be still born from the start. Perhaps that is the idea.
It has to be them apparently, for reasons.
Mr Hussain’s sudden appearance is straight out of the USA Jewish lobby playbook. Support Palestine and you will be opposed and beaten. Israel has a history of supporting Sunni extremists. Corbyn has refused to state he is anti-zionist, so has he already been infiltrated ? JC looks more and more like he’s finished before he starts. We shall see …
Unless he’s found himself a henchman to do the dirty work he won’t do, he’ll run aground on the same reef as he did last time. That’s the trouble with politics as practiced in the UK, it’s set up so that only bastards can get to the top and then we complain that we are constantly ruled over by bastards, well, duh!
Watch the southern Caribbean.
Re. the Sumud flotilla to Gaza, could the US-claimed attack on the Venezuelan speedboat (11 allleged killed, film of explosion posted to social media, word “terrorism” used, action carried out on the high seas, US propaganda de-legitimising the Venezuelan government) be part of a propaganda move by the genocidalists, intended to amplify and globalise the Gaza message? It seems that way.
The posting of that video, which could well be of a different vessel, seems a very Zionist move.
I haven’t checked but I imagine there are those in the Occupation regime in Palestine who are saying enough is enough with all the tenderness and pussyfooting towards Gaza, those who assist Gaza, the West Bank, and all the weakness and holding back towards their enemies generally. This is of course psychotic, but that’s what they are.
Expect more escalation soon with the USA and Venezuela. Trump hasn’t got the testicles, nor has the USA got the military force, to pick such a fight with Russia. or China. Also never forget Abbie Hoffman’s wise words that the USA is just another Latin American dictatorship. (Hello Jorge Ubico.)
They say the fleet is there to stop Venezuelan drugs boats but the ports along the Panama Canal are Chinese owned and it is the main thoroughfare between the oceans and east and west
Saint Craig Murray tells us that he’s lovely man who has a heart of gold and cannot stop himself from acting altruistically. More like a self-serving, hypocritical SOB!
In my limited experience of Craig Murray, he lives up to the talk, a rare thing in any day.
Let he is without sin among you cast the first stone…
Powerful stuff.
Are you telling us that you personally cannot think of a single altruistic thing you have ever done? Interesting.
Not true. AI will enable robotics, and an intelligent robot can do most of the work that a person can do. Possible dystopias resulting from this have been explored in fiction for years; try for example 2084
If automated car washes aren’t profitable any more, how will machines undercut slave labour?
“In short, I am not much of a seer.”
It’s not too late. We need some taibhséaran.
The most brilliant work on capitalism’s “information technology” revolution is this essay on Technological Despotism by Ian Tillium, published as long ago as 1994!
https://libcom.org/library/technological-despotism-ian-tillium
^ Everyone should read this. Sure, a few of the details are questionable, but on the big picture Tillium is absolutely right and in 1994 he was decades ahead of his time.
A quarter of a century later, now that the large majority of the population voluntarily carry handheld computers that they spend hours every day picking at like zombies, what else have we got in the way of leftwing critique? Not much!
Shoshana Zuboff’s book “The Age of Surveillance Capitalism” (2019) is turgid and academic. She can’t write, basically. I doubt many people have read her book from cover to cover. She doesn’t really understand capitalism. It wouldn’t surprise me if she couldn’t define surplus value if someone put her on the spot and gave her 15 minutes to come up with two good sentences. Best stay away from using the term “capitalism” if you can’t do that, luvvie.
Yasha Levine’s book “Surveillance Valley: The Secret Military History of the Internet” (2018) is far superior. He should have had a better editor who could have cut the book to about a third of its length (the Vietnam stuff particularly), but still – the guy can certainly think properly and this book is recommended.
Stick a clothespeg on your nose if you ever read a book on futurology that comes out of Silicon Valley, a filthy hive of anti-human c***s if ever there was one.
Incidentally, the idea that “consciousness is an emergent property of complexity” (which the mass murderer John Von Neumann would heartily have applauded) is ONLY believed in by one country’s computer tech twats, plus a few fawning admirers, and that’s it. Nobody believes that crap in Russia, China, the Hispanic world, Asia, Africa, Europe, Brazil. Nobody. I doubt many people believe it in Chicago, Detroit, and New York either. It’s a Silicon Valley ideology.
At the risk of being accused of falling for the No True Scotsman” fallacy, let me say I think someone like Nick Bostrom in Oxford with his “simulation hypothesis” is basically an honorary USA guy. Also he’s a pisstaker extraordinaire. Does he believe his own crap? Possibly. Does it matter? I bet he gets feted in Silicon Valley when he visits.
“Artificial intelligence” MUST be addressed in terms of who does what to whom. Critics need to frame it in a critical way, FFS. Frame it as the artificialisation of intelligence, the attack on human intelligence by a small group of wicked humans, etc. Remembering where the word “robot” comes from would be a plus. And fingers in the ears when those who SUPPORT it try to EXPLAIN it.
But you do have to wonder whether a left that was so gutless as not to be able to criticise smartphone massification in the late noughties and early ’10s (too scared to say “addiction” without the okay from up-top) will ever get its collective nut around AI.
JFC, they didn’t even criticise television either. Even someone like Clement Attlee (!) could call it “the idiot’s lantern”. Where was the ILP? Holding lectures on the philosophy of Joseph Dietzgen probably.
Lest anyone question the designation of Von Neumann as a mass murderer, recall that he did the maths to work out how high to explode the atomic bomb over Nagasaki so as to maximise the casualties.
This is the man who contributed to the invention of stored program architecture that electronic computers are based on – a man several classes ahead of Harold Shipman in the “I murder lots of innocent people” business.
But nobody asks whether it would be OK to go back in time and kill him.
What about Yanis Varoufakis, Technofeudalism? I imagine it’s relevant. (I’ve got it on my Kindle, but haven’t read it yet.)
The politics of altruism is anarchism.
There is more than one AI system as there is more than one religion.
AI certainly has the potential to reveal, if used intelligently by an interlocutor, the fictitious basis of much of our society’s governing narratives, which is why it’s needs to be regulated by those in power.
Given how inefficient the financialised neo-liberal oligarchy in the “West” is at meeting the needs of the populace they will be drawn to the heretical AI systems of the “East”. A lot of effort is likely to be required to construct the electronic Berlin Walls to safeguard us from this threat.
La Rochefoucauld’s maxims are a store of practical good sense in many respects and give insight into the passions and self- interests that many of us contend with.
There seem to be two major themes here: the threat of AI, and inequality. There is a need for good regulation to limit the possible misuse of AI. Likewise the prevention of monopolies, the privatisation of the NHS and other major services. Possibly internet services (including online banking) should be regulated in favour of more counter services, in remote areas or for people with lesser mobility.
Possibly Citizen’s Forums or juries would help clarify society’s values and priorities for both these major problems, and serve the same function as tsars or advisors appointed by politicians, and propose solutions more democratically.
“There is a need for good regulation to limit the possible misuse of AI….”
Nope, I lost you at the word “regulation”. This is a concept which, to function properly, requires a magic sieve that can be passed through the population, retaining the good guys and letting the bad guys fall through. The good guys can then regulate the bad guys. Absent the magic sieve you end up with bad guys on both sides of the fence and nothing works.
The quandary Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is not a reason for anarchy. There is the ballot box, and other democratic processes (see my second para), and finally Providence.
“There is the ballot box, and other democratic processes (see my second para), and finally Providence.”
There is only the latter. What we call “democracy” is a system designed to reward the unscrupulous, our current dear leader being a case in point: he made 10 pledges to get himself elected leader of the Labour party and, within a year, had broken every single one of them. Any politician can say whatever they think it will take to get people to vote for them, knowing full well, that, once they have been elected, there is absolutely nothing the voters can do to get rid of them.
As for your second point, there are a vast multitude of ways in which society, commerce and politics could be improved, but nearly all of them have a vanishingly small chance of ever being introduced. The current systems have been set up by the people at the top to suit the people at the top. They have absolutely no incentive to change anything.
There is another method, but it is not easy. As Mahatma Gandhi put it, “Be the change that you wish to see in the world”. Easier said than done, of course.
AI is a mixed blessing- it will be used for good things such as in education and problem solving – but it will also be used against us (the masses) -it will be further weaponised and also used to spy on us with control in mind.
As far as I’m aware – governments and councils are even using it to write policies – with virtually no human input.
” You can’t sit on an AI, and one isn’t going to convey the children to a camping trip: nor can you eat it. Manufacturing and food production will not be massively affected by AI .
The second point is that any advance that increases productivity with less labour ought to be a boon to all mankind, enabling people to work less and society still to receive as much in goods and services. ”
Some contradiction there surely? AI is going to take automation to a new level, conveying children to summer camp is exactly the sort of thing driverless buses, trains and aeroplanes are going to do. AI controlled driverless tractors and harvesters already exist, farmers in the not too distant future will be able to plough, sow and harvest without leaving their office (which could be in a different country) and AI will decide what crops to plant and when.
Less labour means potentially large numbers losing their jobs which not only puts a strain on the resources of the nations that have to feed and clothe them but risks civil unrest and disorder.
” I see AI as contributing to the shift in economic power from the West.
That is potentially a good thing. ”
You think so? Really?
Angela Rayner has resigned. It was clear she would.
Starmer’s scrawled letter to her contains a threat to keep her mouth shut:
“Given that you won’t be part of the government, you will remain a major figure in our party”.
Let’s hope she doesn’t keep her mouth shut.
Indeed. This looks like an entirely contrived operation. The BBC laid the resignation hype groundwork, as if working hand in glove with those that orchestrated this consolidation power play.
Paul Mason, who was pictured plotting with Starmer against Corbyn in 2019, has immediately called for the post of Deputy PM to be abolished at September’s upcoming conference. Nice coincidence with the timing, eh? They are trying to bounce it through. The unions, and what remains of the membership need to ensure, not only that the elected post of DPM isn’t scrapped – further consolidating power in No.10 – but also the PLP has to ensure a left-wing option goes forward on the ballot before members. Starmer is hollowing out Labour’s support and laying the foundations for a Farage-led govt. This may be the PLP, unions and members last chance to prevent him running the party into the ground.
She was found to have breached the ministerial rules by the PM’s ‘independent’ adviser – he was appointed by the PM.
Bit like those ‘Independent advisers’ on political violence & disruption and antisemitism, Lords Walney(Woodcock) and Mann. To be called independent the criteria should involve being appointed by an independent appointments panel at the very least. Not the PM’s patronage.
What does it even mean to be independent? Everyone who is appointed rather than elected, owes their allegiance to someone they know. It’s a problem with the ‘Old boy network’ judiciary too. I’m sure there must be a reason the Govt always seems to win those important rulings.
She was the only member of Starmer’s cabinet politically to the left of Genghis Khan. Apparently she is to be succeeded as Deputy PM by the terminally stupid David Lammy.
I found this : Sir Keir Starmer breached MPs’ code of conduct eight times
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62431183
He’s also had to pay back freebies and donations as PM. One rule for me and another for thee.
Maybe Craig will comment on today’s events. But today’s ministerial reshuffle was huge, the BBC claim it was carried out ‘on a whim’ after the Rayner resignation. But doesn’t this kind of ministerial movement take days/weeks to agree to, as Ministers squabble over roles and which departments they are being moved to? It suggests they knew in advance Rayner would be forced to resign and had planned for it, and the whole thing was orchestrated with friendly media in some way.
Politics is a dirty business, and centrists are its nastiest practitioners.
All that for nothing. A crying shame.
We got no chance while we still allow such Millenia long infamy of the Holy Roman Empire hand in hand with its Owners and Masters that now expand into the Levant as the great gatekeepers between EurAsia and Africa.
Does the yankeepoodles ziofascism need any more clear explanation ? Like piusx/Hitlers pope.
This Chicago khazarian Shapeshifting thug shows the Holy Roman Empire was always a fantasy creation by the old bastards to better control Europe than the Romans could with their wolf raised children fairytale.
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Pope Leo XIV met with Israeli President Isaac Herzog at the Vatican. The Israeli president briefed the Pope on the war in Gaza
Sep 4, 2025 · 10:27 PM UTC‘
Maybe I missed it in CM’s article but there is major confluence of AI/IT/Databases etc through and in the illegal apartheid entity.
That’s the old Slavers and shapeshifters old Catholic/Protestant eschatological Zionist Christians death cults and now the neo religion AI/Woke/Transhuman mental chains; which they expect to preserve their control over the majority of humanity.
Over all our dead bodies that object that is.
Tomorrow is a BIG Palestine support and demand for an end of ziofascIst entity, in London – it’s gonna be great. Spread the word get the world on the streets – spotlight the ziofascism.
AI will certainly impact manufacturing and food production, it just wont be by a static computer system. AI chip sets and power requirements for basic AI are now small enough and efficient enough to fit inside a smart phone ( The new Pixel phone uses and AI enabled chipset) like all technology’s they start off big cumbersome and not really all that useful outside of a few niche areas. However miniaturisation is something we as humans do very well.
There are 3 nascent technologies that are all heading in the same direction. Robotics, AI and power density. 10 years ago getting a robot to walk upright was complex and very expensive. Now they can kickbox. It doesn’t take a great stretch of the imagination to see what the next stage is. High power density fast recharge solid state batteries ( they already exist) Robotics to accomplish complex dexterity tasks ( they already exist) and low power requirement AI ( in a shop near you soon)
There will not be one single part of society that isn’t going to be impacted by these 3 technologies merging.
I’m 52 in my lifetime I fully expect to see the the 4th industrial revolution be complete. Historically each industrial revolution takes less time to accomplish than the last. There will be no jobs for anyone. States will own all business ( or all business will own the state) and you will be provided with a “universal income” that you can spend on only the things the State decides to manufacture or otherwise produce.
At this point we will be informed that we are “free” of course the polar opposite will be true.
I believe… Smart devices don’t run AI Systems, they just connect back with the mother ship. Take away the connectivity and your smart device becomes a slightly retarded doorstop. The Chinese systems are the most efficient but you still need the appropriate LLM to be available. I may be wrong, but I’m sure someone will let me know !
I think Charlie Chaplin made a film about that… hud ma coat whilst I tie masel’ a noose.
Really if they get the agile robots perfected the first thing they will be used for will be on the streets to curb public objections. Not vacuuming carpets clean for the folk who can’t.
Most people working in services have been treated like robots for years mainly through the business model of the likes of American fast food chains, warehouse work that is penalised and like piece work of the 18th, 19th 20th Century. Incidentally my great aunties all worked In Service and they were treated as though invisible and paid as such too.
Israel already use AI to decide who to kill next plus half the neighbourhood for good measure, AI sees patterns and reads stuff from Twitter. The Israelis are pressing the kill button whilst eating food and deciding which hotel to book for next holiday abroad. (leave) Prizes for who will have robotic soldiers first…? When we should be looking after the planet ….banning plastic, banning nuclear everything and upgrading basic infrastructure like the crumbling cast iron water pipes put in the 19th Century and trains.
We need a happiness index to measure our governments’ performances against. GDP is meaningless and GDP PP doesn’t capture the inequality..
How topical. This from Yesterday :
Head of UK’s Turing AI Institute resigns after funding threat
Her position has come under pressure after Technology Secretary Peter Kyle demanded the centre change its focus to defence and threatened to pull its funding if it did not – leading to staff discontent and a whistleblowing complaint submitted to the Charity Commission.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rvx85z3z7o
We’re like a one-party state, aren’t we. Do interchangeable Labour ministers and their Tory opposites disagree on anything outside of the most trivial matters? You can bet the security services are, or are planning to, use AI and citizens datasets to monitor dissent too; in ways that would be widely viewed as unethical if opened up to wider public and academic scrutiny & debate.
AI is just a tool, it has its uses and is only as good or bad as the people using it. With or without AI the same basic problems persist, corruption at the heart of society.
Hilarious how much power Kyle wields considering he admitted he had the reading comprehension of an 8-year old. Under his Online Safety Act Ofcom are issuing fines to overseas websites, The sites in question are understandably refusing to pay and asking Ofcom, why they don’t just order UK ISPs to block at DNS level. Some in Ofcom seem to think the OSA grants them worldwide jurisdiction over the whole internet. Like the Apple encrypted storage access nonsense: We rule ze world, ze world we rule!
Knowing New Labour, AI will be used in oppressive ways, to become a 24/7 Big brother monitor. Don’t forget these people buy in to the lie we’re being swamped by online Russian disinfo – despite the fact none is ever produced in evidence. They are profoundly silly and naive.
“Hilarious how much power Kyle wields considering he admitted he had the reading comprehension of an 8-year old. ”
Just goes to show these people are tools in more than one sense of the word.
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I think you’ve hit an important nail right on the head, Stevie Boy!
No surprises here form the American Pope – Pope Leo XIVth
“Leo XIV prioritizes meeting with President Isaac Herzog at Vatican City instead of going to Gaza to stop the genocide.”
https://nitter.poast.org/PalMediaOrg/status/1963661818942968099#m
Mind you Herzog is coming to London next Thursday, a warm welcome from Westminster to the committer of genocide, mind you Britain has form on this with Margaret Thatcher’s good buddy General Pinochet.
Like all US citizens, he’ll have been subjected to years and years of pro-Israel and anti-Russia media conditioning. His views on Ukraine and Gaza, are, as a result, very much aligned with those of the US Democrat party leadership, as far as I can tell from his pronouncements.
People who are genuinely objective; those who refrain from judgement and think for themselves, seeking to understand both sides, are rare indeed.
Pope Bob, the first jewish pope ?
Many think they only picked a US Pope because the Vatican is basically skint.
Vatican ‘on the brink of Bankruptcy’ due to dramatic decline in global donations under Pope Francis’ Leadership
https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/vatican-bankruptcy-pope-policies-donations-34332242
The Vatican corrupted by money?
Oh no, au contraire!
Al Pacino as John Milton in The Devil’s Advocate, gleefully shouting : What a world!!!
Haven’t the Zionist already used AI to target and kill women and children Gaza – Israel uses an AI system dubbed “Habsora”, “the Gospel”, to determine which targets the Zionists will drop dumb bombs on – though I can’t recall the operational bombing runs names.
Meanwhile
“A cross-party group of MPs and Lords set up by a former Conservative adviser to the defence secretary has shut down while under investigation for taking money from a state-owned Israeli arms company, Democracy for Sale and the Bureau of Investigative Journalism can reveal.
The defence technology all-party parliamentary group (APPG) was created in November 2024 by James Clark, who until the general election was a special adviser to Grant Shapps at the Ministry of Defence (MoD).
Parliament’s standards commissioner had been investigating the group after Declassified UK revealed it accepted funding from RUK Advanced Systems Limited, a subsidiary of Israeli arms giant Rafael. Rules ban APPGs from using a secretariat funded directly or indirectly by a foreign government.
The defence tech APPG offered companies “opportunities to network with MPs and policymakers,” at events in Parliament that included Labour ministers. MPs in the group tabled dozens of parliamentary questions advocating for the industry.
Now, a spokesperson has confirmed the APPG has been dissolved. Its former co-chairs, Labour MP Fred Thomas and Conservative MP Neil Shastri-Hurst, declined to comment.”
https://democracyforsale.substack.com/p/controversial-mps-group-shuts-down-israel-appg-loopholes?selection=04a83a1a-596e-4822-a012-81901f974ba0&r=ns9q&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true
“Haven’t the Zionist already used AI”, Yes. Also, I recall that they had AI controlled machine guns set up at Palestinian crossing points. Facial recognition plus AI, bang, bang you’re dead. lovely people …
That sounds exactly like something they would do. Palestinian lives are the cheapest lives on earth as far as the Israelis are concerned. There are allegations of ‘organ farming’ and weird Nazi-esque experiments conducted on prisoners, and it all seems highly plausible.
An Israeli jail for Palestinians, featured on Al jazeera was basically a large hole in the ground, with no air conditioning, v.limited water and the guards above laughed as they boasted how the prisoners had no fans in their cells in the +40C summer heat. Truly something sadistic about Israeli society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RmNJH4UN3s
AI doesn’t have to be accurate and the Israeli’s don’t care. Just an excuse for killing everybody and then saying, the robot said so…operational error.\/human shields blah blah blah, it’s Monday.
I think AI has great potential to assist Humanity as long as you use it not to make profit but make good decisions and goods.
The alleged ‘ Great Thinkers ‘ of our times start with the idea of how to make money then make the idea real.
How many Patents have been buried (bought off) over the years?
Probably hundreds of thousand I think.
They were stymied because they would have put a massive dent in the capitalist system.
The very idea that making billions or millions makes you intelligent is risible.
I would describe the billionaires as clever opportunists – not fools just clever in the current era.
From what I hear Gates pinched DOS – Musk did not invent the Tesla Car and Bezos just perfected the globalisation of The Grattan and and Great Universal Catalogue technique of the Seventies.
Clever but, that’s all.
What the people involved and the fearful media can’t understand despite being the defenders of capitalism, is that the exploitation of living labour ( not dead labour say like an already built old House ) is the means to make more profit and further capital to invest in even more productive labour by machinery.
You could go into this more deeply but, the machinery run by robots -not humans, means that the humans ( with the exception of the robot’s Engineers) are now literally dead in the exploitational sense.
The humans used to be exploited, working alongside the productive machinery and got paid by the hour a lot less than their output per hour.
They are then left with a wage to buy the stuff that other capitalists knock out in other factories etc.
What the geniuses are forgetting is that their goods and even services run on an Infrastructure paid for by the taxes of the Workers and even the Clerical Staff.
Get rid of them and you get rid of not only the retail buyers but the taxes that pay for the capitalists Infrastructure so as they can operate as capitalists.
In the capitalist world view this looks great – in the human view of the world this is certain starvation and death.
It is actually a great deal more nuanced than my description but to make capital you have to exploit labour.
Yes, you can con each other with shares and Ponzi Schemes but that’s based on old capital that isn’t re-invested in material production.
You can also rob people by getting interest on loans and fees etc.
But material production, ( including farming by the way – you need food and water to live) is the key to all human wealth and nature is at the root of all wealth.
Because the West is a Service Economy then what that means is that around 80% of all Western Manufacturing has been exported to the Non West.
Now- the Geniuses will say; ‘ What’s that got to with us? ‘
I don’t care what it has to do with them – I care about what it has to do with 8 billion plus
people.
And I’m sure the 8 billion people do care and if they are driven into penury they will have to do something about it – not out revenge but survival.
I’m not saying the poorer you get the more likely you are to revolt but, in the West they have a choice of not getting any poorer than they are now.
The ones who stand in the way are the politicians – they have to be removed.
How long that will take is unknowable and after a dangerous dalliance with the Far Right the antidote will appear because it has to appear to save the mass of humanity.
History deplores a vacuum and all sorts of political experiments have occurred and will occur.
The future ( save Nuclear war ) will throw up solution alright and things will try and fail but, it will inevitably happen.
Then eventually the AI and the Billionaires Robots will become ours – not theirs.
As Marx said about the Industrial Capitalists:
They have dug their own Graves.
The AI lot may rule for a while but, not forever.
History is full of Geniuses who thought that Empires could last forever.
They never do.
Speaking of altruism.
“Belgium officially recognizes Palestine and imposes sanctions on Israel.”
https://nitter.poast.org/_MegaPolitics/status/1963489805725036909#m
Yvette Cooper is the new Foreign Secretary and Lammy has been made Deputy PM.
This appears to prove they want to scrap the elected post of Deputy PM – as obviously no member elected Lammy to that role. Since coming to power Starmer has tried to disenfranchise the very members who misguidedly put their trust in him. He first tried to end one-member-one-vote (OMOV) for leadership elections, wanting MPs alone to decide. And now he plans to abolish the elected aspect to the Deputy PM role, making it a non-elected cabinet role within his power of patronage.
This is a man who despises internal party democracy, accountability and debate. He sees Labour party members as belonging to a non-participatory fanclub. The Labour conference, coming up this September will be another stage-managed joke with no democratic debate whatsoever. It’s no exaggeration to say, there are probably more people involved in debate and formulating policy in North Korea than in Starmer’s Labour party. It’s a vile, authoritarian, dictatorial top-down abomination of a party under Starmer. And it’s making a farce of the idea we live in any kind of democracy.
Finally – is this real or AI, and if real is Gates being sarcastic – or admitting his wrongdoings.
https://nitter.poast.org/liz_churchill10/status/1963792114577223938#m
It’s fake. Admittedly it’s a very good fake which is extremely alarming.
Here’s the real footage:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3plkgIK7t8
Grade A arse licking.
One aspect to all this ultra realistic facial and voice mimicry, is politicians can just deny its them if incriminating recordings emerge of their misdeeds.
Remember when the recording emerged of Starmer repeatedly swearing at an aide? Before anyone had done any audio analysis on the recording, Tory politicians were queuing up to defend Starmer, claiming it was fake and AI generated. No one had confirmed any such thing, and in fact, later analysis by professional audio engineers, claimed, if it was AI generated it had been done with a very high-level of expertise because of the nature of the conference ambient (background) noise.
Dunno your rules on links but your article made me think of this
Second Thought: Literally 1984 But Neoliberal – YouTube, 15m 27s
Preaching from the same hymn book but it’s worth a watch.
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The video titled “Literally 1984 But Neoliberal” presents an analysis of current events from a socialist perspective, drawing parallels between George Orwell’s 1984 and contemporary neoliberal policies. Here’s a brief summary of the key points discussed:
Neoliberalism Explained: The video outlines the principles of neoliberalism, emphasizing market-driven policies and the reduction of state intervention in the economy.
Surveillance and Control: It highlights how modern society mirrors Orwell’s dystopia through increased surveillance and control mechanisms, suggesting that citizens are constantly monitored.
Social Inequality: The discussion includes the growing gap between the wealthy and the poor, arguing that neoliberal policies exacerbate social inequalities.
Resistance and Alternatives: The video concludes by advocating for resistance against these trends and exploring alternative economic models that prioritize social welfare over profit.
This engaging analysis encourages viewers to reflect on the implications of current policies and consider the importance of social justice.