Fighting the proscription of Palestine Action has become more urgent as eight brave activists enter the crucial period of their hunger strike.
12 January has finally been set for the court hearing on holding a Scottish judicial review of the proscription of Palestine Action.
I am frankly terrified for the hunger strikers.
- Qesser Zuhrah
- Amu Gib
- Heba Muraisi
- Jon Cink
- Teuta Hoxha
- Kamran Ahmed
- Muhammad Umer Khalid
- Lewie Chiaramello (a diabetic so on modified hunger strike or he would die very rapidly).
The Starmer government is quite prepared to let them die: to emphasise devotion to Israel, to show their Zionist donors they are earning their money, and to reinforce the hardline macho image they believe appeals to Reform voters.
Indeed I have no doubt that Starmer, Mahmood, Lammy and Cooper hope for their deaths as a political positive; just as Thatcher thought she would win plaudits for facing down IRA hunger strikers.
It is important to state that none of the hunger striking prisoners has been convicted of anything – all are on remand – and none of them was in any way involved in the incident in which a policewoman was allegedly injured.
The coordinated response from government and other Zionist troll farms and stenographers is that none of the hunger strikers deserve sympathy as “a policewoman was hit by a sledgehammer”.
It remains astonishing to me that this assertion is constantly and stridently made by the state and its myriad acolytes, despite the rules against prejudicing a jury trial. This stance ignores the detailed accounts of the trial itself which paint a far more complex picture.
As well as the real danger to the hunger strikers, there are thousands of entirely peaceful protestors facing terrorism charges simply for speech. These are life-changing, bringing not just jail sentences but loss of employment, debanking and travel restrictions.
All this while the genocide of Palestinians continues, with appalling conditions in Gaza, stringent restrictions on aid (which is still at less than half the required levels), and continued Israeli bombing – despite the “ceasefire”.
The judicial review of Palestine Action in the High Court of England and Wales appears to have been “fixed”. The last-minute change of judges – including the total removal of the original judge from the panel – and the conduct of the review, have left little room for optimism.
My own most striking impression from that judicial review is the difference in how the judges treated the counsel for Huda Ammori and the counsel for the UK government.
Counsel for Huda Ammori, Raza Husain KC, was treated with impatience and at times disdain. That is difficult to quantify, but one thing that could indeed be measured was this:
Every time Raza Husain KC referred the judges to a passage in a past judgment or other quoted authority, they quickly skated over it and moved on, frequently with a phrase like “Yes, we have seen it” or “We are familiar with that”.
Every time James Eadie KC for the government referred the judges to a written authority, they ostentatiously physically found it in their bundle and took time to peruse it, on one occasion taking over a minute to demonstrate they were reading and absorbing at the government’s direction, before Eadie moved on.
The contrast was stark. Not just once, but over and over.
My favourite moment in the English judicial review was when Raza Hussain quoted the Proscription Advisory Committee’s recommendation to Yvette Cooper that Palestine Action should be proscribed because “Palestine Action kept hiring good lawyers” and defendants kept being acquitted as it was difficult to prove guilt to the criminal standard.
Yes, they really did say that. Palestine Action should be proscribed because it was being found by juries not to be criminal.
By proscribing Palestine Action, this makes it a criminal offence of strict liability to support it, whether or not you were doing anything that a jury would have found criminal before the proscription.
Raza Hussain KC described this as “Not the Proscription Advisory Committee’s finest hour”. I thought much more could have been made of it, but a feature of the English judicial review – and I think a mistake – is that there was no playing to the gallery of public opinion.
It was conducted as a legal conversation between the lawyers and the judges, often incomprehensible to the onlooker because it was based on documents to which the public do not have access. Yet there is an extremely concerned public looking on.
The demands of the hunger strikers largely refer to the appalling prison conditions in which they are kept, despite the fact that none of them have been convicted and none of them have previous convictions, or can reasonably be said to present a danger to the public, or be a particular flight risk.
- Immediate bail/release on bail for the remand prisoners (many held longer than standard limits).
- The right to a fair trial, including access to all relevant documents and an end to demonization or “terrorist connection” claims.
- An end to prison censorship/restrictions on communications (e.g., blocking letters, phone calls, and books).
- De-proscription (lifting the ban) on Palestine Action as a terrorist organization.
- Shutdown of Elbit Systems’ UK sites (Israel’s largest arms manufacturer, accused of supplying weapons used in Gaza).
On right to a fair trial, it is worth noting that there is huge evidence of outside influence on the prosecutions, and there are communications between the police and prosecutorial authorities on the one hand, and Elbit, the Israeli Embassy, and various Zionist groups on the other, which have either not been released to the defence, or have only been released in very redacted form.
In the day of the Filton trial which I attended, I found the parts the jury was not allowed to know (when they were sent out) particularly interesting. I cannot tell you more than that until the trial is over.
We can help lift the proscription of Palestine Action if we win the judicial review in Scotland. We have finally been given a court date of 12 January at 9:30am in Edinburgh.
This hearing is to decide whether there will be a judicial review. It will look at only two points.
Firstly, whether I as an individual have sufficient connection to Palestine Action, or have my rights particularly infringed by the proscription, in order to have standing in the case.
The UK Government is arguing that I have no connection to Palestine Action. (I wish they would tell their police that!!)
We will however also be relying on the Supreme Court judgment in Walton vs Scottish ministers, which states that it “is sufficient that the applicant has a genuine concern about the legality of the act or decision, and that the issues raised are of general public importance”.
The second ground to be heard is whether there can be a separate judicial review in Scotland when there is already one in the High Court of England and Wales.
Our view is that the principle has already been established in the Joanna Cherry and Gina Miller cases, where judicial reviews in London and Edinburgh came to opposing decisions on the legality of Boris Johnson’s prorogation of parliament.
I am resident in Scotland, where the High Court of England and Wales has no jurisdiction. If my rights are infringed I am entitled, even within the United Kingdom, to the protection of my own courts of my own nation in first instance.
Scots law is different. Its intellectual basis and maxims are different. There is a reason why lawyers legally qualified to plead in courts in England and Wales are not automatically qualified to appear in Scotland; and vice versa. The Court of Session is not inferior to the High Court.
We intend to submit substantive evidence of the oppression of numerous individuals in Scotland as a result of the proscription.
We will need the maximum public support inside and outside the court of session at Parliament House, Edinburgh on 12 January from 9am.
Unfortunately we will not be able to go ahead if we do not raise sufficient funds. The crowdfunder has got us into court, but needs to supercharge to get us further. Please do help:
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The refusal of bail is appalling.
Donation made.
MPs laughed in Parliament yesterday as Labour Minister rejected Corbyn’s call to meet families and legal team of hunger strikers.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/25701679.mps-laugh-minister-rejects-call-meet-hunger-strikers/
The problem is that there are no repercussions for these MPs. They can do what they want, say what they want and take money from the enemies of the UK and democracy (Israel). They can retire at night after a hard day’s grifting to their cosy piles or second homes without a care in the world.
Repercussions would focus their evil little minds, but there are none.
Nope, none whatsoever. On the contrary, they know that the louder they laugh the more respectable and reliable they will be considered to be, both by Parliament and the media.
There certainly were repercussions for Nathan Gill. He got 10 1/2 years in the slammer. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yd878ejqko
What, exactly, is the difference? If, as I saw alleged today, Israeli minister Bezalel Smotrich said, “International law does not apply to Jews. That’s the difference between the chosen people and the others”… does British law apply to Jews?
Gill was an ex-MEP, not an MP.
Gill was a Senedd MP and the Welsh dismissed their former Senedd leader for accepting a donation from a lobbyist. Tidy, see?
What flavour of lobbyist was that?
Starmer seems to forget Roman Abramovich is a Jew with Israeli citizenship (as well as Russian and Portuguese), known to donate lots of money to the Israel settler movement. Bit anti – semitic forcing him to give his money away to Ukraine. He seems happy to see Abramovich in court nevertheless.
“That should send a strong message to any elected official or anyone in an official capacity who is asked to act on behalf of another government and paid money to do so.” So it was said about Gill when he was sentenced.
What Gill did was small potatoes to what Israeli Donors like Trevor Chinn and others have contributed to the corruption of Labour’s front bench in their service of Israel, all dismissed later as an “administrative error.
“At the centre of the controversy is Morgan McSweeney, Keir Starmer’s powerful chief of staff, and his long-time association with billionaire businessman Trevor Chinn. Documents and leaks show that between 2017 and 2020, McSweeney oversaw Labour Together, a factional project that secretly accepted more than £730,000 (around $930,000) in undeclared donations, allegedly in breach of electoral law.
Much of this money is said to have come from Chinn, a figure whose involvement in Labour politics has for decades been bound up with the defence of Israel and the advancement of Zionist networks inside the party.
An investigation by Jody McIntyre, who stood as a candidate for the Workers Party in the last general election, shows how deeply enmeshed Chinn became with McSweeney’s project. McSweeney reportedly concealed donations “to protect Trevor” from scrutiny, according to McIntyre’s investigation. Labour Together, however, later dismissed the failure to declare the funds as an “administrative error,” a line advised by solicitor Gerald Shamash, another Labour figure with a record of blocking debates on sanctions against Israel”. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250926-how-pro-israel-money-captured-starmers-labour/
I have just reread your blog “Judicial Malfeasance and Palestine Action 105.” Posted last month detailing the record and background of the replacement judges.
Disgusting followed by unbelievable are the first words springing to mind. But, of course nowadays in our increasingly corrupt political system “par for the course” would be a more appropriate phrase.
So much for an independent justiciary!
Astonishing?! It shouldn’t be. I thought you followed the news.
Repeating lies until almost everyone believes them is the standard strategy of the Zionists. “The barbaric terrorism of 7 October started the Gaza war”, ignoring the far more barbaric terrorism perpetrated by the IDF over the past 75 years. “Hamas is a terrorist organisation”, believed by probably 98% of the UK’s population. “The media are biased against Israel”, when most mainstream media are either owned of controlled by Zionists. To see more examples, just go to a couple of MSM websites. Or look at the weaponisation of the term “antisemitism” (the only majority-Semitic population in the land claimed by Israel is the Palestinians). And on and on and on ….
And, the prejudice is reinforced by the Australian “atrocity”. The MSM is full of vomit inducing hype about the poor old Jews being persecuted yet again. No one asks why these things happen, Gaza has no relevance whatsoever.
The zionists are rubbing their hands and thanking the shooters for providing them with more legitimacy for their perverse causes, this unfortunately will impact the hunger strikers and the Filton case.
“Your Party MP Zarah Sultana rushed in the early hours of the morning of Wednesday, 17 December, to HMP Bronzefield. It was because one of the Filton 24 hunger strike prisoners was at serious risk of death – and the prison was refusing to call an ambulance.”
https://www.thecanary.co/uk/news/2025/12/17/zarah-sultana-hunger-strike-prisoner/
– Qesser Zuhrah is now on the 46th day of her hunger strike.
– Two of those refusing food are on day 45 of their protest
– and another is on day 44.
Martin Hurson died after 46 days, becoming the sixth of 10 IRA hunger strikers to die in 1982
“none of the hunger striking prisoners has been convicted of anything”
Interestingly Bronzefield is near some major roads…
Imagine if something happened…
No-one who opposes the inhumanity meted out in Bronzefield should be unaware of the role of Sodexo (or the signing of the contract with Sodexo by criminals in the government).
I am a Reform voter, and I believe that Israel should never have existed – and now should be dissolved as soon as possible. I have no ideological, religious, or racial axe to grind. I merely want justice to prevail.
“I believe that Israel should never have existed – and now should be dissolved as soon as possible.”
I also believe israel is a zionist, terrorist, colonial project.
Yes, Cobblers – that’s why I believe it should never have existed and now should be dissolved.
On the face of it, to establish a colony from scratch, seeking to eject the indigenous people or kill them if they refuse to leave would be bad enough. To do so in 1948, immediately after the foundation of the UN, was worse.
Yet the “civilised” world looked on calmly. To the Jews, nothing could be forbidden; not could they be accused, let alone convicted, of any crime.
Read Einstein’s letter to the NY Times 1948. A letter everyone has conveniently forgotten.
British politicians seen to forget 1948 was when Jewish terrorist targeted British soldiers, which had the knock-on advantage of jews in the UK getting problems because of the attacks on Britons and others.
I think you will find that Jewish terrorism in Palestine began long before WW2. It ramped up after 1945 because the British government was distracted (also bankrupt and thus dependent on the USA), the League of Nations had mandated Britain to govern Palestine, and therefore it was necessary to drive the British out so the Zionists could have a free hand. Rich Jewish patrons in the USA and elsewhere provided all the money the Zionists could use.
They had also cleverly exploited WW2 to join the British forces, learn to fight, and acquire lots of weapons ranging from rifles to fighter aircraft.
The fundamental cause of the genocide was that, after the collapse of the Turkish Ottoman Empire, there was no official government in Palestine. It became a power vacuum, temporarily administered by the British. The Zionists took the opportunity to swarm in, arm themselves, and fill the power vacuum.
It was an open goal.
It is a little known fact – and certainly not one advertised by either the UK, Poland or Israel – that pre-WW2 Poland provided military training and arms to Polish Zionists who wished to emigrate to Palestine. What they did once there was not of particular concern to the Polish government. The aim was, of course, not the “noble” one of giving Jews a homeland but rather to encourage Jews – whose presence in Poland was felt to be too numerous and some of whom were proving a political nuisance – to leave the country.
Another little known fact is that the Jews had total air superiority in 1948/49 (cf the effects of Italian air supremacy when attacking Abyssinia…) . Their aeroplanes were British Spitfires, supplied to them by…..the government of Czechoslovakia (another WW2 ally of Britain)!
As I’m sure you’re aware Tom ?. Reform is a zionist loving, genocide supporter who certainly won’t be offending or curtailing Israel’s activities.
I don’t know as much about it as you seem to, Stevie Boy. But Reform is a political party, not an individual person, and as such cannot be correctly described as “a zionist loving, genocide supporter”.
Pretty hard for anyone serious to deny that “Israel” is a colonial project…
The hasbara rebuttal is (on top of “Goys like you always hate the Jews”, of course) is “our ancestors were there 2000 years ago”. Which is hardly an argument that stands up anywhere that people value intellectual honesty even only a wee bit.
As I understand it, the state of Israel has no valid legal foundation – it was simply declared to be a state by the Zionist terrorists, without any UN stamp of approval. It also has no defined borders – typically a prerequisite for a modern state.
These historical facts have been pointed out by Colonel Jacques Baud, the Swiss former intelligence officer. On Monday, the EU added him to its list of sanctionned individuals who are barred from entry to the EU and whose assets inn the EU have been frozen – both major problems for Baud who has been living in Brussels.
UN Resolution 181 (founding of Israel) states:
No expropriation of land owned by an Arab in the Jewish State (by a Jew in the Arab State)(4) shall be allowed except for public purposes. In all cases of expropriation full compensation as fixed by the Supreme Court shall be paid previous to dispossession.
The State of Israel was recognised as a de facto authority by the United States on its declaration of independence on 14th May, 1948; it was recognised fully de jure by the United States on 31st January, 1949 and admitted to the United Nations on May 11th, 1949. But that does not exempt it from international sanctions for the crimes of apartheid and genocide, nor restitution for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine (as described in Ilan Pappé’s book) by enabling the return of all Palestinian refugees with proper compensation for all properties taken over.
Col Jacques Baud was sanctioned by the EU for supporting Russia in its war of aggression against Ukraine. Serves him right. Слава Україніé
Col Jaques Baud is Swiss. Switzerland is not in the EU. He was sanctioned by the EU for “supporting”* Russia, which is not in the EU, in its war against Ukraine which is also not in the EU.
Does that not strike you as overreach? If the the EU is going to be the world’s policeman, who in Israel has the EU sanctioned for its war of aggression against Palestine?
* This is, presumably, the new meaning of “support”, “not oppose”.
You make a valid point about the danger of being an international policeman (as America has done with the judges of the ICC). I don’t agree that not being a member of an EU country should exempt someone from EU sanctions, but as you suggest, to be consistent in outlook, the EU should also be sanctioning any individuals participating or complicit in crimes against humanity, including any sanctioned by the ICC.
Please watch one of the many youtube videos available of Col. Baud talking about the crises in the Middle East and Europe. I think you’ll find he is one of the most level-headed and best-informed observers/analysts of current events available.
He brings a unique perspective to the task, having spent a career in Swiss intelligence (working closely with US and British intelligence, among others), UN peacekeeping (eg in the Sudan) and NATO. He is a thoroughly decent chap, as we used to say, and someone you’d definitely want on your side.
I think you’ll learn a lot from any one of his videos. I know I did.
Interestingly, Baud has avoided Russian sources because he doesn’t want to be seen as partial. He was sanctioned almost certainly because of his interview with Zelenskyy’s former deputy Arestovych, who is critical of current EU narratives on Ukraine. Apparently any deviation from the received EU line on Ukraine is “supporting Russia”. I’ve followed Baud for around 6 years and can vouch that he is very dispassionate and analytical.
“Apparently any deviation from the received EU line on Ukraine is “supporting Russia”. ”
The concept of neutrality has become very last century. Now there are only two camps to which you can belong, pro or anti and if you are not in one you must be in the other. Saves having to think, I suppose. Life is easier when you just chant the slogans.
Tom Welsh
Reform suports Israel.
If you want change why vote for more of the same?
Johnny, for which party should I vote then?
At the last General Election I voted for the Green Party on the basis that they were the only party on the ballot paper prepared to criticise Israel’s actions in Gaza. I said as much when questioned by an exit poll outside the polling station. However, as an old leftie the party has many other policies which appeal to me far more than those of the three traditional parties
If none produce the change you require then vote for nobody. I shall be examining the fringe candidates to see if any are palatable.
“The UK Government is arguing that I have no connection to Palestine Action”.
Ah! Catch-22. Either you have no standing, or you yourself are a criminal.
Neat. And horrible.
“An end to prison censorship/restrictions on communications (e.g., blocking letters, phone calls, and books).”
Many communications to prisoners sent through EmailAPrisoner.com are being blocked on spurious, unexplained “security” grounds. These include totally anodyne messages that say things like “Keep your spirits up”. Certainly the state is trying to break many prisoners. This is over and above the system that British prisons run on, which might easily be termed “social credit” – brownie points and black marks for interactions with guards.
Don’t forget that Sodexo, the company that operates prisons such as Bronzefield, also operates in Occupied Palestine.
Meanwhile in another part of the British state, the Home Office is refusing visa applications that would have been granted without fuss even only a year ago. Often they are giving utterly spurious semi-literately written “reasons” that sound as though they were written by Nazi truth dentist dimwit teenage bouncers (online or elsewhere) or else by “artificial intelligence”. They are getting many facts obviously wrong – I mean undeniably wrong, as if they haven’t even bothered to read a person’s completed application form or their supporting documents – but it doesn’t matter because the basic message is “We’ve got power, and you’re just scum”. A factor of major importance seems to be the country that the applicant comes from. Reform UK might as well already be in office.
What ties these two developments together is the “we don’t need no stinking badges” approach.
Is this a matter which could, in the fullness of time, be taken appealed all the way to the top in the UK and then, if necessary, to the ECHR?
The BBC, in its brief news headlines on Radio 3 at 6 p.m., has actually had the fucking gall to describe protests against the Gaza genocide as “protests targeting the Jewish community”. There are no depths to which these filthy lying propagandists will not sink.
It’s worth putting in an official complaint and a note to OFFCOM. Your MP too if you were part of the protests, and feel understandably maligned by the slur.
Not that anything will come of it, of course, but when they get enough of them and it ties up resources every time they pull crap like this, it might well make them feel less comfortable about doing so all the time.
My Sister entered an involuntary hunger strike when she had a stroke on the 24th of September 2025 and was taken to the Royal Glamorgan Hospital . They refused to feed her and she died on the 27th of October 2025
After 34 days without food. She was 79, This is what yo can expect from the NHS (Nasty Health Service) if you are old and not some minor celebrity. We had refused the End Of life Care pathway as it is the same as the banned Liverpool care pathway with its ever so kind morphine. So they just found excuses why they could not feed her. When I put it to the DR’s, clinicians how the inevitable malnutrition and death would follow they would not agree. So the death certificate says brain haemorrhage . One more lie for the statistics.
Sorry to hear about your sister, Brian. Quite a lot of people get killed off by denial of food and water. Calling it the Nasty Health Service is far too kind. National Heap of Shit is more apt, or Nazional Heimland Service.
This story says it all: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52117814
Many patients get “DNR-ed” (“do not resuscitate”), but during the Covid hoax GPs and their lackeys were sending out letters saying sign this, buddy, and don’t forget that letting you die without receiving any care will save your “friends and family” the inconvenience of dialling 999.
If you’re old (>55) and have the misfortune to enter an NHS facility you will stand a very high chance of being murdered. This is not due to negligence or incompetence it is the explicit policy of this organisation and the government.
That’s putting it a bit strong, Steve.
My wife was a nurse, and if she was operating under such a policy, she would probably have mentioned it. I sincerely doubt her conscience would have allowed her to carry on in the job regardless. Nurses are pretty familiar with the treatment patients get – it would be extraordinarily hard to operate a policy like that while senior nurses knew nothing about it whatsoever.
In fact, so difficult to do so whilst keeping it entirely under wraps that it doesn’t go anywhere near passing the laugh test. A bit like imagining con-trails are a secret plot to murder the population by the millions, including the scientists, engineers and pilots pumping the stuff into the atmosphere, together with their families.
Having lost my dad to this policy, i do have strong feelings about it.
The policy is the end of life pathway. It exists and is used regularly, I’d suggest all NHS staff ARE aware of this pathway which has been regularly used since, at least, 2020, with examples of its use and abuse appearing regularly in the media.
A recent article is here:
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-gout-patient-murdered-by-end-of-life-care/
Yes, Stevie, my parent was murdered too, (Aly I trust my doctor, he understands my medical needs, I trust him to keep me well. Aly you’ve got to do something, they’re killing me off) and my other parent still living at home, was appalled that our GP tried so hard to get him to sign a DNR and a Power of Attorney for Health, giving the doctor the power to decide what would be in their best interests. It was called The Daffodil Standards during the covid cull (read the BMJ for detail) and now the Respect Protocol makes the same requirement on all people over 65 who are either admitted to hospital or to a Nursing Home (which will take every penny they own in fees, and sell the house quickly or they will take the next of kin’s money and house too) and if the person refuses to sign the doctor openly stated he would check their indemnity insurance to see if they could overrule his decision and ours.
The dangers facing the sick and the elderly are not to be understated or dismissed. The pressure is now on for an Inquiry into the huge quantities of Midazolam that were purchased at the start of covid.
The Right to Life is the first of our Human Rights that is directly under threat right now
Alyson, in a weird reversal of this, the doctors ignored my grandfather’s request not to be resuscitated: he was 103 and felt that he’d had more than his fair share of life. This is the problem with medics, so many of them think they know best.
Nurses are indoctrinated.
They don’t get told here’s a knife, just go and slit that patient’s jugular will you, then we’ll all have a big party. That’s not how it works.
Stevie is right.
See Milgram’s electroshock experiment too.
This is a barbaric society we’re living in, and Britain is especially far gone.
” This is a barbaric society we’re living in, and Britain is especially far gone.”. Indeed, Brian. What horrifies me is how * things * have got SO bad SO quickly? The rapid degeneration of, well, everything, in the Political sphere, anyway, didn’t begin with the mass psyops of the * Covid * Lockdown/up, but they definitely upped a gear and have just got worse & worse since that exercise in State power/manipulation.
That the end of that particular * operation * was immediately followed by the UK’s slavering participation in the Proxy War ( UK * Security * Service involvement in that benighted country started long before the onset of the SMO, of course ) and I’d put a bet on the end of the latter being followed by another * Pandemic * – look how they’re hyping-up this so-called ” terrible strain ” of flu – which has, apparently made a dramatic comeback after going AWOL during 20/21; because we now live in the age of Permacrisis, Totally manufactured Permacrisis that is.
And whilst the masses are being bludgeoned by one fearmongering, distracting scenario after another, the bludgeoners are tightening their grip on the little agency * ordinary * people have left to oppose this tightening, eg the ” clamping down ” on public demonstrations – pretty sure it won’t be long before ANY protest against Zionist inhumanity will be criminalised; the policing of online platforms, y’know, to ” protect children “; ” Hate Speech ” prosecutions and now the coup de grace, the manufacture of war with a nuclear-armed country; for which it * may be necessary * to introduce some form of conscription – witness the utter lunacy/outrage of Germany doing precisely this; and the conditioning of the public mind to accept evermore drastic reductions of social/economic security/wellbeing.
The Political UK is a sick-in-the-head moral vacuum, peopled by compliant drones under the control of, TBH, I don’t know WTF it is, but we can be sure pathetic mouthpieces for geopolitical savagery and domestic oppression like Starmer are merely following instructions issuing from further up the food/power chain.
The UK is in the worst state in my lifetime, and on present trajectory, may prove to be the worst state of anyone’s lifetime.
RADICAL ( as you say….lit. from the roots ) change is urgently needed; but I can’t see that change coming from the present Political Party- dominated system. NONE of the existing mob have either a clue or the will to break, eg the MSM stranglehold on political discourse and the deliberately imposed paralysis that maintains the status quo that benefits a tiny % and damages/disempowers the vast majority
Yes. Exactly this.
Robert, everything can change 180 degrees in one generation. All that’s necessary is to isolate the children from their parents and re-educate them. Or to prevent the parents from passing on their values to their children. Or both.
‘When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community”’.
– Adolf Hitler
Please note that Hitler said nothing about hastening the parents in their “passing on”. That would be quite unnecessary. The process requires little or no violence.
“peopled by compliant drones under the control of, TBH, I don’t know WTF it is”
Under the control of the “Establishment”, the oligarchy that has been running the country since the Norman Conquest and probably before that (Not the King, Magna Carta showed that) and latterly has hidden behind a facade of “democracy”.
Nearly 20 years ago before the Liverpool Pathway was widely known about outside of hospitals it was being used in Scotland. My grandmother had been living with vascular dementia, though she was otherwise fit and active her mid 80s. She did have momentary blackouts that made her fall but was an independent woman and was able to cook for herself and had family members nearby who popped in daily to help her and see that she was ok (oh course the way housing in last few decades has been allocated, and job opportunities means not everybody has their family close by or the luxury of living in their home town) but she did and was too poor to have to worry about the State taking anything her house off her as she had never owned one. One day she was cooking for herself, but the next day she had had a bad fall in the morning and was not conscious when she was taken to hospital, whilst her daughters were working.
Unconscious for a few hours and left without hydration, no drip, nothing. On coming round she was unable to eat the famous 6-month-old irradiated rubber sausages – cooked in Wales and sent out to various NHS hospitals as “food” until they could probably survive a trip in Space but were totally indigestible to anyone except perhaps a starving bull terrier – and that “food scandal” was subject to a TV documentary.
When my relatives arrived at her bedside after work they found her sitting up in bed absolutely terrified out of her wits and crying; she had no idea where she was but in fear of her life. Normally a strong, opinionated, confident person. They checked her notes to see what had been prescribed but found only DNR written on them. Horrified they immediately demanded to know on what basis this had been ordered? They explained that she’d only been admitted that day and that she was cooking her own tea the night before, and had been managing with their help to live in her own home.
They were told by staff that as she had arrived unconscious they assumed that she was normally in a vegetative state in a care home. But nobody had confirmed such a thing.
She was only unconscious a few hours, about the same as a bad concussion and confused perhaps 24 hours, and dehydrated – as even if you CAN ask for water in a hospital, your chances of getting any depend on whether the staff can be bothered/remember or care or like the look of you.
Had her closest relatives been on holiday for a week or two at that point, I doubt we would have ever seen her alive again.
My aunts got her got her moved to a cottage hospital specifically for the elderly and stroke recovery patients. She lived for three happy years with edible food, good care and plenty of people to talk to. She was mobile for most of those three years, including having a wee dance on her 90th birthday.
Even if you are not in your 80s and not on the Mediazolam Express, anyone in early middle age without comorbidities who contracted severe Covid in early 2020 were denied any basic treatment.
No supportive oxygen and told if you don’t have “an obvious cough or you’re not over 80, it’s not that bad, though we’ll know if you don’t die after three weeks.”
They completely ignored signs of or reports by paramedics of the signs of hypoxia, heart and stroke symptoms etc., etc.
So usually fit active people died in their own homes from preventable strokes or heart attacks and other vascular and respiratory extremes. Those that just survived extreme effects of the virus and the excessive immune response to it, did so with systemic damage, and chronic decline and dysfunction of brain, vascular system and organs, as well as recurring extreme events.
None of these people were ever included in the Covid research during or post pandemic or treated in Scotland.
There were never any multi-disciplinary Covid clinics for the extreme manifestations of Covid in Scotland. No Covid clinics at all – a decision made by Hamza Yousaf.
Yet Westminster Govt., Whitty et all sent NHS Boards and GPs (who mostly saw none of the pandemic) a memo instructing them: “do not refer these patients – because these cases are too complex.”
i.e. “No diagnosis = not treatment” saves money. So who is the NHS for which group and where?
Auxiliaries were triaging severely symptomatic Covid patients by occupation in 2020 and dismissing a certain age group as “Anxiety”. This was repeated around the UK, even to medical professionals who found themselves very ill and then never recovered.
They at least teamed up in supportive groups perhaps to lobby; the general public in the same position are medically and socially shunned in the UK.
If it is not common knowledge via the MSN then it simply can’t be true.
GPs certainly don’t want to believe it, if they weren’t affected.
Yet this has happened to tens of thousands of people of all ages including young children.
The public were encouraged to join in collective mind control, encouraged to be Happy Clapping on Thursdays whilst neighbours, friends and family were left to die from a bioweapon.
Simple and cheap things were available to counter the extremes of Covid virulence, and the excessive immune response. And these approaches worked even for elderly patients, as proved by the Japanese, who treated a cruise ship full of pensioners in hospital and who largely recovered within a fortnight.
This simple protocol, not novel drugs, is still withheld in the UK.
Managed to attend most of the JR – the Bench certainly had an ‘attitude’ for team Ammori’s briefs – patronising. Where did they think they were, for heaven’s sake – Strasbourg ? Little patience with the “drama” of frustrating genocide, nor the “sterile dichotomies” of ECtHR case law rooted in far-off jurisdictions. Putting an optimistic spin on it, they were seemingly only interested in drilling into the record of the government’s procedural conduct, the rest … tiresome. The Defence assists, Kosmin and Barnes, did also catch some gentle but withering interruptions.
Odds have been stacked against an equitable outcome – not to mention the black hole of the CLOSED material proceedings.
I’ve put together an account of the proceedings’ argumentation as best captured from the public gallery and submissions, though holding back from posting it in view of the Order on reporting restrictions. Did Chamberlain really mean that no press comment is permissible until after the last Filton/Instro trial in, what, … 2027?
“… any conclusion of any Minister, adviser, or official that the incidents referred to at paragraphs (a) and/or (b) above satisfied the definition of “terrorism” in s. 1(1) of the Terrorism Act 2000,
must be postponed until the conclusion of the trials arising from those events.”
What if the proscription Order is actually struck out ? [Which meant before the JR started that it’s not going to be?]
“Sterile dichotomies” – that would be laughable if this weren’t so serious. All law is based on dichotomies. They’re just saying “stick that up your arse” in posh. Judges are prejudiced biased thugs putting on an act, shocker.
“What if the proscription Order is actually struck out?” Then there won’t be trials. But given Britain is Britain, who knows?
Isn’t life so cheap in Britain.
British cops are pulling protestors off the streets for saying “globalise the intifada”.
Apparently this a “racially aggravated public order offence”. Even if a Jew does it?? Let the CPS argue that one in court…assuming ZOG gives them the instruction.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cde65de81jgo
Maybe INTIFADA could become a key radical slogan… Possible. Why not?
Meanwhile has anyone else noticed that the British regime has started to use the word “radicalisation” to apply to boys who are deemed to be acting in a sexist way or becoming more sexist. Gotta wonder what more will be put on this word. If workers tell their boss he can do one, are they radical? I’ve always loved the word “radical”. Going to the roots of things.
Yes, the word ‘radical’ can have two opposing meanings- a feature Orwell noted in the Newspeak language of 1984.
When politicians advocate ‘radical change’ we are expected to stand up and cheer. But when young men are ‘radicalised’ we have to shake our heads in sorrow.
In a similar vein when organisations we support are ’empowered’ then that is a good thing. But if we don’t like the organisation then they have been ’emboldened.’
Actually, when politicians advocate ‘radical change’, they often mean “no change at all”. Emperor’s New Clothes syndrome.
“Trump versus BBC” is c*ck. Trump just has a thing about trying to force everyone to give him money and resources – Russia, Ukraine, Britain, etc. He wants everyone to be his b*tch.
But look at what the BBC, i.e. British government media, are saying about Venezuela:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g562vz34ro
“What are the ‘ghost ships’ Venezuela is using to evade oil sanctions?”
Whitehall will tell the BBC to do whatever the US embassy instuct, and the BBC will do it. The BBC is part of Whitehall. Same as with almost all British foreign news reporting, which is often part of psychological warfare. Britgov is showing that it’s totally on-side with the USA aggressors: “ghost ships”, “evading sanctions”, “What is Venezuela doing?”, etc. (Not “what is the USA doing?”)
British registered ships are removing oil from Venezuela in breach of Trump’s sanctions. The government has approved a £50bn arms package using the Green Budget and overseas aid to provide huge dividends for investors, with the aim of continuing to target Russian oil and gas and stealing Russian money banked in Britain, though to be fair, Starmer has politely requested £2.5bn of Abramovitch’s profit from selling Chelsea and Abramovitch has been a generous donor to Israel.
“Sanctions” have no legal force. What they mean is “We don’t want you to do such and such”.
To which the only principled reply is, “So what?”
It’s amusing that Maynard Keynes explained with perfect clarity why the current Western policies are suicidal – over a century ago.
“The blockade of Russia, lately proclaimed by the Allies, is therefore a foolish and short-sighted proceeding; we are blockading not so much Russia as ourselves… The more successful we are in snapping economic relations between Germany and Russia, the more we shall depress the level of our own economic standards and increase the gravity of our own domestic problems”.
– John Maynard Keynes (Economic Consequences of the Peace, Chapter VII)
What these laughing morons need to remember and Government need to remember is that history and events do not move inlogical straight lines.
This atrocity will come to an end eventually.
When I don’t know and even if I am not around to witness it – it will happen.
So, any younger Ministers and younger MPs and Civil servants and the Military and the media will end up appearing at The Hague as either witnesses or the accused.
Because the politicians ( with very few exceptions ) are followers not leaders, they may laugh now and think they are untouchable in accepting money from Israel and virtually cheering on the bombing of Gaza and The West bank.
And for now they are but, that is today and tomorrow.
Beyond that a lot can happen.
All this is done not necessarily just to grovel to Israel but mainly to grovel to the US.
Trump’s MAGA Base is walking away from Israel and the Mid Term Elections in the US could turn out to be a disaster for Tump.
On two Wars/conflict issues – Ukraine and Israel.
If that happens Trump has very important decisions to make.
We have to remember I think that the most special person on the planet is Donald J Trump and if he is damaged politically in any way he will change tack at the drop of an Auto – Pen.
p.s. Craig:
If Juries keep acquitting PA supporters in trials then, does that imply/infer that the Jurists indirectly support PA activists?
Or, do they not like opinions of the ordinary people as they keep clashing with the biases of the Powers That Be?
If they were being legally consistent theoretically, the acquitting Jurists could end up on trial.
As said many times before, Israel could not do what they are doing without the USA. So, although Israel is beyond evil and a blight on the human race, the USA is worse. And, it’s not just down to the ultra zionist-Trump, the same would be happening if another republican or the democrats were in power. Israel is a mind controlling virus that consumes its hosts, the only solution is for the hosts to be purged of the Israel virus. Stop the funding, enforce true democracy in Palestine and classify all Israeli supporters as agents of a foriegn power.
https://bsky.app/profile/amrawatson.bsky.social/post/3maasrnjlxs2v
MPs laughed when Jake Richards dismissed Jeremy Corbyn’s request for a meeting on the Palestine Action hunger strikers.
Laughed.
This is who we’re governed by, people entrusted to represent a nation, yet so insulated by power they respond to human suffering with indifference and mockery.
FFS man, can’t you see the comedy value in dead babies burnt beyond recognition with their guts hanging out, you must be one of those antisemites. The ‘mother of parliaments’ knows what a good joke is when it hears one. The joke of western democracy keeps giving …
That highly illustrative incident in Parliament has gone completely unreported by the English media.
There’s a conspiracy of silence in general on these hunger strikes among the politicians and media, as there has been for two years on British participation in the Gaza Genocide.
No need to tell you what they would be saying if an approved enemy state of the British ruling class were providing surveillance, weapons and training for an army genociding children. Or if that woman imprisoned by Iran had gone on hunger strike and the Iranian parliament was filmed laughing about it.
Who cares if the Palestine Action folks die of hunger? F*ck them—–they did it to themselves. The group has long since passed on from being merely a “Protest” group to becoming an “Active Terrorism” group. If they don’t like the so-called “genocide” in Gaza (which is actually a war—-one that “Palestine” supporting Hamas started), they have NO right to commit acts of terror in their own name. Starting a war and getting your A$$ kicked in the process does NOT make you a victim.
Facts, evidence etc. not strong on.
Well done agent ‘dick pinker’, your renumeration is available at your local zio-office.
Stevie
I suspect “Rick Pinsker” is just trying to get a rise out of you and others.
When you think about it, trying to “get a rise” is surely something someone called “Dick” would attempt?
Even though he’s a dick whose name is Rick.
And the rise is essentially that of his own dick.
He’s just expressing the unvarnished thoughts of virtually every British politician and journalist.
Try and find one who has condemned statements such as these in the past two years.
Let alone demanded that they be criminalised, as they’re doing for anything that opposes the Gaza Genocide.
Almost surely as a “skit” (is that the right English word?).
Either a pure skit or then something designed to have you take it seriously and get upset.
Why must it be? Those are genuinely the orthodox, respectable positions in this country. The government’s official line is that there’s no genocide and that the hunger strikers are terrorists who should be permitted to die, so as to reaffirm ‘our’ fealty to the genocidal apartheid state.
OK, Zoot, have it your own way. Whatever you say. Pinkster is spending time retailing the official view (on this blog, where he’s sure to find converts) and not just trying to get a rise out the more gullible regulars.
Not of course that it actually matters a ff which one of us is right. Perhaps we should both spend more of our time following up on Glenn_nl’s excellent suggestions (see his post at 18:44 on 17th December, above)?
Just so you understand, the English ruling-class are not people worthy of your admiration and emulation.
You’re not seriously suggesting that Glenn-nl belongs to the English ruling class, are you?
Are you and Glen in a relationship ? Your fawning is a bit icky !
That’s quite a thought, Stevie Boy!
But there’s no need to be jealous – post some sensible posts and you can join us for a threesome.
The hunger strike, as I understand, is about unjust prison conditions, and therefore I hope it succeeds. The prisoners might well be acquitted of terrorist offences, given a fair trial by jury.
The people who started the war were actually Zionists who decided to settle Palestine and expel the natives. This ethnic cleansing operation, with British and American collaboration, has gone on for over a century. Read Ilan Pappé’s works The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine and The Greatest Prison on Earth for further details.
Two wrongs don’t make a right; the fact that Nazis undertook the mass murder of European Jews does not justify Israelis doing the same thing to Palestinians on a smaller scale. Gaza is like the Warsaw ghetto during WW2, after the uprising.
“the fact that Nazis undertook the mass murder of European Jews”, let’s not forget the Gypsies, Disabled, Criminals, the Chinese, Russians and German and European civilians that were also mass murdered during WW2. In context the Jews were just another group of people who were victims of total war. Obviously, thats not the official line and others may wish to disagree.
The hunger strikers are imprisoned without trial. They have not been convicted of any offence. They are being denied due process. Their detention breaches standards of justice. For the owners of the prison to say they know how to handle this because there have been 200 hunger strikers in their captivity should raise alarm bells and get inspections to report publicly on the conditions that are driving this suffering at their hands
They are not charged with terror offences. The actions which they were arrested for all took place before the proscription of Palestine Action. They are charged with offences such as aggravated burglary and criminal damage. Yet they were held and interrogated under counter terrorism powers, and by all accounts are being treated as terrorists by prison authorities.
Risk Pinsker
Thank you for your flying visit.
So, if Israel stupidly attacks Iran again and this time Daddy America doesn’t come to the rescue
using your logic :
Israel would have brought it on themselves and that is the reason why Tel- Aviv is in ruins.
Yet again using your logic:
‘ they have NO right to commit acts of terror in their own name ‘
And Israel does with the claim that it represents ALL the jews in the World?
All this murder is done in their name because Israeli makes a preposterous claim.
Fortunately for ALL jews in the world and the non – Jewish world – it doesn’t.
I’ll give 100 points for pure inconsistency and written gymnastics.
Of course it’s OK for Israel to bomb but, absolutely unfair for the bombed to bomb back.
I don’t know whether the US learnt that from Israel or vice – vera.
Back to the Daily Express now there’s a good boy.
In the face of chief constables quietly prompted by Keir Starmer to act tough, won’t “Globalise the resistance” do for the time being?
https://www.thecanary.co/skwawkbox/2025/12/18/hunger-strikers-to-divert-images/
“Police forced last night’s weekly protest march to the BBC’s London HQ in solidarity with the hunger strikers to divert to avoid supposed hurt to Jewish groups meeting for Hanukkah. Jewish people have been front and centre of every protest. The march was excluded from a large area around the BBC…”
One assumes then that the BBC is full of Jewish groups !
One may also assume that a bowl of porridge is full of oats.
Now who’s “fawning”, Stevie Boy?
PS – love the “one”!
“The prisons minister, Lord Timpson, said: “We are very experienced at dealing with hunger strikes. Unfortunately, over the last five years we have averaged over 200 hunger strike incidents every year and the processes that we have are well-established and they work very well – with prisons working alongside our NHS partners every day, making sure our systems are robust and working – and they are.” ”
This guy needs someone to shut his mouth for him. All he can say is government is great, and so is the NHS, so fuck off.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/18/minister-government-palestine-action-hunger-strike
He advocates for employing ex-prisoners, and, guess what, he has employed hundreds at his shoe repairing and key cutting company. Curiously he is not known for advocating higher than shit wages, or that all employment should be on the cards.
Timpson is based in Wythenshawe. Is he in a crime family?
The Guardian lied for years in order to get Timpson and co into power.
These are their people. This is their moment.
“We are very experienced at dealing with hunger strikes.”
Yes, and Captain William Bligh was very experienced at dealing with mutinies: I think it was four others apart from the famous one on the Bounty. Presumably neither Bligh nor Timpson stop and think why they might be so experienced or perhaps they do and just put it down to the natural cussedness of the lower orders.
The UK government calls people holding a placard terrorists while the Foreign Secretary is shaking hands with the Al Qaeda chap that MI6 helped into power in Syria! They can support terrorists. We aren’t allowed to oppose genocide.
Why it’s referred to as Normal Island.
In Australia the Jewish lobby (AIJAC) is pushing hard to make ANY criticism of Israel illegal.
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-australian-israel-lobby-is-flat
The Jewish lobby has globalised the message that ‘globalise the Intifada’ is antisemitic and the British police have loyally picked up the baton and declared the same for the UK.
As expected, more restrictions on our freedoms to protect the feelings of the eternal victims.
Genocide is good, opposing genocide is bad. Things have changed a bit since Mr Hitler’s days.
Glenn Greenwald who is also a lawyer has some profound things to say regarding Israel’s demands to curb free speech in the UK and the widening IHRA definition, excellent video by Glenn here:
“Australia and the UK Obey Israel’s Censorship Orders”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKBz6bKbuzQ
Tory leader Kemi Badenoch: “We need to get people who have come from cultures that don’t respect women out of our country! Not all cultures are equally valid.”
The first bit means “P**** out”. The second bit is typical alt-right talk, essentially KKK with internet.
What we have at the moment in Britain is a very flimsy semi-recognition of patriarchy, couched in terms of the misused word “misogyny”, used to promote increased state surveillance, increased contempt for the population by officials at all levels , and increased racism – three key ingredients in fascism. This is really almost nothing to do with protecting women and girls.
The craziness of it is evident in things like the suggestion that more money on women’s refuges (which I support) will tackle the “epidemic” of violence against females.
Badenoch is a ludicrous figure. I wonder whether she will go full-on Nikki Haley and say Britain has always been a non-racist country. She seems to have burnt all her boats, though, where multiculturalism is concerned, what with the “more valid” nonsense.
Maybe Badenoch would like to start with Nigerian medical migrants ?
Its utterly f*ckin disgraceful the price of court fees – this is how they really put people off from doing the right thing – not only that – the likes of the Colonial Admin in Scotland, has a shitload of taxpayer cash available to squander on whatever the f*ck takes their fancy, the system is all wrong and it needs to be changed.
RoS, I think high court fees and lengthy delays are a useful mechanism for denying 90% of citizens any access to legal recourse. Why bother fighting legal challenges when you can simply price them out of the canaille’s reach?
Tom Welsh.
Correct.
Came across this a bit earlier, posted a couple of days ago, which is very interesting:
Julian Assange: Sweden broke own laws with Nobel Prize to Venezuela’s Machado
By awarding its peace prize to Trump’s favorite Venezuelan opposition figure, pro-war coup plotter Maria Corina Machado, the Nobel Committee contravened the principles enshrined in its founding documents, as well as Swedish law, Julian Assange alleged in an explosive brief reviewed by The Grayzone…..
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/12/17/julian-assange-sweden-nobel-venezuelas-machado/
Past winners included Yitzhak Rabin, Henry Kissinger and Barack Obama.
Yes (I didn’t know about Yitzhak Rabin), it makes a mockery of the whole concept, awarding it to warmongers.
And Trump probably came a close second!
Was not Rabin awarded the prize jointly with Arafat?
But I was forgetting…. War is Peace of course!
Allan: the Nobel Peace prize is not awarded in or by Sweden. If a law was broken it was Norwegian law.
I think it is widely understood that “Western” governments, at any rate, see laws as means to restrict and punish anyone who resists them. Not as limits on the powers of governments themselves, or “right-thinking folks”.
When it comes to the crunch, even Abraham Lincoln openly admitted that he was quite willing to break his own nation’s laws if he judged it necessary. All presidents since have been more willing. Today, the likes of Messrs Biden and Trump have no respect at all for any laws, religious, moral, or other. Most conspicuously “international law” (a pious fiction, as it cannot be enforced), national law, religious law, and common morality.
Oh, come to think of it – that’s ALL laws without exception! Powerful leaders dislike constraints on their power, and generally do not accept them.
And who is to say them nay?
All power yearns towards dictatorship: to be unaccountable, absolute and arbitrary, for the best possible reasons and the highest motives, of course.
Well I have say, Australia’s response to the tragedy it witnessed is exemplary.
‘Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese announced a national gun buyback programme following the recent deadly attack at Bondi Beach, Sydney, which killed 16 people and injured 40 others.
The proposed scheme will target surplus, newly banned and illegal firearms, with funding shared equally between federal and state governments. State authorities will collect weapons, while the Australian Federal Police will oversee their destruction.
Officials expect hundreds of thousands of firearms to be removed from circulation. Australia currently has more than four million registered firearms, and the new measures also include limiting gun ownership to Australian citizens and capping the number of firearms per licence holder.
It would be the largest gun buyback since 1996, when Australia cracked down on firearms in the wake of a shooting that killed 35 people at Port Arthur.’
IMO. You’d have to be mad, if you had guns, to hand them over to TPTB. Looking down the road to the near future, particularly in Oz, the clouds of internal dissent can be seen forming: excessive police powers, immigration problems, minority issues, excessive influences from outside forces. All these problems can be seen building in all the western regimes. Those guns will be needed.
Christian Zionist US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckerbee welcomed 1,000 evangelical pastors from the United States entitled the “Friends of Zion Ambassador Summit. in support of Israel’s so-called “right to defend itself” which most of the world regards as genocide, In the summit’s “Before You Go” guidelines, participants “were told that public evangelism and distributing Christian materials were prohibited in Israel, and that they should refrain from preaching altogether. Don’t they know it is common practice for Israelis to spit on Christians?
I think they should make love of everything Israel does compulsory and a new religion, call it Zionism. and should be worshiped. Here is a sample of a US Congress critter.
Congressman Rick Allen questioning Columbia University President Minouche Shafik, asked if she was concerned that God might “curse” the university, ‘Do you want Columbia University to be cursed by God?’ Since the covenant said If you bless Israel I will bless you, and if you curse Israel I will curse you. Do you want Columbia University to be cursed by God. Shafik..definitely not.
Pure Monty Python.
If that’s what the evangelical pastors were told, then those who were doing the telling were telling lies.
Perhaps those doing the telling (perhaps the Revd Huckster himself or his minions?) were getting Israel mixed up with Saudi Arabia or Iran or certain other Muslim countries?
Ex top CIA man Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, says that is what the Pastors were advised.. “In the summit’s “Before You Go” guidelines, participants “were told that public evangelism and distributing Christian materials were prohibited in Israel, and that they should refrain from preaching altogether. In effect, the very faith that has driven Christians to share the gospel for two millennia was instructed to remain silent in Jerusalem.”
It is a well known fact that Christian Priests and others wearing the Cross are spat at all the time.
https://freepress.org/article/battered-america-awaits-trump%E2%80%99s-next-move
Harry, you are correct in what you report about Jews in Iran. But the discussion was about proselytizing, and that is certainly illegal in Iran (as in Saudi Arabia and probably some other Muslim countries).
Harry – the spitting business has been evoked on here before, as you probably know.
I have seen videos on YouTube showing Jews (of the Orthodox variety) spitting on the ground in front of or to the side of Christian priests. But I have never seen a video showing a Christian priest (or indeed anyone wearing a cross) being spat at in the sense that the spit landed on him.
Now, just because I have not seen any such video does not mean it has never happened or doesn’t happen. But it does allow me to ask you if you have ever seen such a video and if so, whether you could reference it. Saying “it is a well know fact” doesn’t quite cut it – at least not to me. One would have thought that someone would have taken great care (and pleasure) to video such incidents and swiftly post them online?
On the point of Iran the Jewish community is very large, it has the second largest Jewish population in the Middle East after Israel and are well respected by the Iranians they have their own synagogues and member of their parliament.
“There are 30 active synagogues, Jewish schools, kosher butchers and restaurants, and even a matzah factory. Jews don’t suffer from persecution or harm and are permitted to maintain their Jewish lifestyle without interference. Their rights as an official religious minority in Iran are protected by law and constitution, and they even have a representative in parliament.”
https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/02/16/why-do-jews-still-live-in-iran/
Hope to clear up the issue of Christians in Israel here is the opinion of a lawyer specializing on the subject…
“In Israel it’s legal to express a person’s world view, including religious beliefs, even if they are not accepted by the majority of the public. The exception to this rule is what is known in Israel as the “Missionary Law”. The “law” is actually composed of two separate sections of the Israeli criminal code; the first, section 174 of the Penal Code – 1977, forbids a person to proselytize another to change his religion by means of material benefit. The second, section 368 of the Penal Code, forbids persuading or encouraging a minor (under the age of 18) to change his religion. This law also forbids to conduct any ceremony for a minor to change religion, without the consent of both parents”.
https://lawoffice.org.il/en/missionary-activity-in-israel/
In other words the 1000 Evangelical Pastors were probably right to be told to keep their mouths shut, just in case.
I think we agree : it is legal for people are to proselytize in Israel, with the two exceptions you mention – both of which do not seem unreasonable (and I imagine have their parallels in many other countries in diverse fields of human activity).
Interestingly enough, apostasy, although greatly disapproved of by many (perhaps most) Jews and likely to result in various social and perhaps even economic consequences, is not illegal, whereas it is illegal in some Muslim countries (eg Iran, Saudi Arabia…). I believe the penalty in Iran is death?
Suffragettes in London once got hold of a medic who had tortured them in prison and whipped him in the street until the whip broke.
They weren’t deterred by his whining that he was only doing his job.
Just sayin’.
Sylvia Pankhurst, in a rare error of judgement, wrote “Dr Forward was not, in my judgement, a bad man, or a cruel one…The unquestioning assumption that those in authority must be right is all too common. Refusal to obey the Home Secretary’s command would have meant dismissal for the prison doctors. If anyone were to be whipped, I preferred it should be a member of the government.”
There is another view. This is bearing in mind that one cannot always get hold of a member of the government.
Hens teeth: MPs, GPs, …
Please can people keep in mind that the hunger strikers are making five demands. These are not mostly or largely about their conditions in prison. To help break their isolation, it’s important to circulate these verbatim.
https://prisonersforpalestine.org/demands/
1. End all censorship
We demand to be able to send and receive communications without restriction, surveillance, or interference from the prison administration. Freedom of expression is a fundamental human right that is vital for prisoners, whose voices are already systematically silenced. Censorship inside prisons is a tool of control used to punish resistance. Letters, phone calls, political statements, books and all other forms of expression must be respected.
2. Immediate bail
We demand that we be released from custody while awaiting trial. Holding people on remand, in some cases indefinitely, is a deliberate abuse of power, used to punish prisoners before they have even faced a court or been convicted of any crime. Some of us will have been imprisoned for nearly two years without a conviction. The right to a fair trial must include the right to prepare for it in freedom, not behind bars.
3. Right to a fair trial
We demand the right to a fair trial, which cannot happen until all relevant documents related to our cases are released in full. This includes all meetings between British and Israeli state officials, the British police, the attorney general, Elbit Systems representatives, and any others involved in coordinating the ongoing witch-hunt of actionists and campaigners.
We also demand the release of government records of all Elbit Systems UK exports from the last five years. We have the right to know what arms are being made and exported from the UK, especially when they are used to commit genocide.
4. Deproscribe
We demand the immediate dropping of all terror-related charges and ‘links’, and an end to the use of the Prevent strategy. The government’s use of counter-terror laws to target those engaged in protest and direct action is unjustified and unprecedented, and must be stopped.
In light of this, we demand that the British government deproscribe Palestine Action. Direct action is not terrorism. It is a legitimate tactic deployed when democratic channels fail to reflect the will of the people. When the government breaks the law, citizens have the moral responsibility to act in defence of life, human rights, and collective dignity.
We also demand an apology from Yvette Cooper for spearheading a smear campaign in a cynical attempt to justify her decision to proscribe Palestine Action. Her claim that Palestine Action was a violent organisation “possibly funded by Iran” has no basis in fact.
5. Shut Elbit down
Many of us are imprisoned for allegedly taking action against Elbit Systems, Israel’s largest weapons manufacturer. Since 2012, Elbit has won 25 public contracts in the UK totalling more than £355m. Now, the Ministry of Defence is preparing to sign a £2.7 billion contract with Elbit that would designate it as a “strategic partner” and see the company train 60,000 British troops each year.
We demand that the government does not use taxpayer´s money to fund the machinery of genocide, and scrap this contract. Furthermore, we demand that all Elbit systems’ sites and its subsidiaries in the UK are permanently shut down.
SUMMARY
1. Allow the receipt and sending of communications
2. Immediate bail
3. Release government documents so they can receive a fair trial
4. End to government use of of anti-terrorist laws and “Prevent” to ban Palestine Action and target protestors, and an apology from liar Yvette Cooper.
5. End to British government support for Elbit Systems
MINI-SUMMARY
1. Communications in prison
2. Bail
3. Release documents for fair trial
4. Stop oppressive use of anti-terror laws and “Prevent”
5. Stop British state support for Elbit
An important refresher – thanks for posting, Brian. Starmer/Lammy have missed a trick in not de-escalating by negotiating away the detention abuses imv – (I hope when rather than) if the Govt is pursued for breach of rights under ECHR Articles 5 & 6 … at the least, discovery should be interesting
Craig, regarding the Scottish fundraiser, £22k is still a pretty penny. Can you go ahead with part of the action, or is it a case of “all or nothing”?
There seems to be palpable desperation from the United States recently, with bankrolling the wicked Netanyahu regime, taking on the BBC, trying to steal Venezuela’s oil, and the targeting of the Royal Family with Epstein. I can only assume the United States is very close to bankruptcy.
With the national debt running at 38.5 trillion dollars, I’d say the USA is actually economically bankrupt. Morally, it goes without saying !
Could be interesting if Trump’s owners are threatening to release a photo of the guy who’s currently the British “king” with Jeffrey Epstein.
Nah, Bigears is too boring for that sort of thing to have happened.