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July 2, 2009
A Small Norwich Mystery
When MPs' expenses were finally published officially, they were redacted to the point of meaninglessness. The Tories are now practising some very curious redaction with the cv of their candidate, Chloe Smith, who is bidding to become the youngest member of the current parliament.
Chloe's official c.v. begins when she moved to secondary school in Swaffham. Most people's cvs begin by stating where they were born. Chloe's doesn't. That is not very strange. But what is strange is that the Tory party are refusing to say where she was born when journalists have asked. I am told they have been getting quite tetchy about it, even with a sympathetic journalist who was writing a puff piece about the glamorous young candidate.
Now that is a mystery. I genuinely don't give a hoot if Chloe was born in Basingstoke or Ulan Bataar, and I can't imagine the electorate care either. (I had a friend at school who was born on an aeroplane en route to a holiday in Malta, which I thought was dead impressive). But why would the Conservative Party not want people to know? Plainly Chloe is English enough even for the nutters of the BNP.
I can't think of any logical reason for the Tory reticence, except that Chloe's latest leaflet quotes her as saying "As a Norfolk girl through and through, I'm determined to be the strong voice the whole area needs." Perhaps if she were born outside the county, they are worried about diluting her local credentials. But if they hadn't made a mystery of it, I don't suppose anyone would have noticed. (I am not saying she was born outside Norfolk, incidentally. I really don't have a clue. I am just puzzled why they won't say).
Anyway, a free copy of The Catholic Orangemen to anyone who knows either where Chloe was born, or why on earth it's a secret!
Posted by craig on July 2, 2009 7:39 AM in the category Norwich North!
Comments
Maybe she's a German?
Posted by: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill at July 2, 2009 10:19 AM
Craig - Perhaps she was adopted and has no idea where she was born.
Tories could get hung up about crap like that.
Posted by: Gerard Mulholland at July 2, 2009 10:29 AM
Maybe she was grown in a vat. Like Ed Balls.
Posted by: rullko at July 2, 2009 11:00 AM
I put a comment on the last blog saying Mike Smithson at politicalbetting.com had a good post about you Craig. Seems it didn't register.
Posted by: subrosa at July 2, 2009 11:16 AM
I fear the worst - I suspect she's from Ipswich. Not good for the Norwich crowd, not good at all.
Posted by: Jim Jay at July 2, 2009 12:53 PM
"...a Norfolk girl through and through" rather than "a Norfolk girl born and bred".
Having some knowledge of local rivalries my guess is that she was born in (whisper it) Ipswich.
Posted by: MJ at July 2, 2009 12:53 PM
Maybe her father is Michael Jackson (or not, if you believe The Sun - surrogacy would be even worse)
Posted by: eddie at July 2, 2009 12:59 PM
Out of curiosity I just paid for a quick search of the register of births for 1982, only 8 Chloe Smiths, none born in Norfolk. Camden, Enfield, Waltham, Exeter, Portsmouth, Newham, Ashford and Cardigan - perhaps they're worried she might be Welsh?
Posted by: Alex T at July 2, 2009 2:33 PM
"Chloe is a Norfolk girl - she grew up in Stoke Ferry and is a governor of her old comprehensive in Swaffham. Chloe has worked for two East Anglian MPs for a number of years."
From the 'About' section at:
http://www.tellchloe.com
Posted by: Bert at July 2, 2009 2:36 PM
theyy're just striving to cultivate an air of mystery around a bland functionary
Posted by: at July 2, 2009 3:39 PM
Dear Craig
This is an easy matter to find out.
You know her age, go look her up in Birth, Deaths and Marriages!
Its free you walk and look up the register.
You are fighting a war here and information is ammo.
Get one of your FCO chums in London to do the Yago for you.
This isn't personal, its business.
If a fib has been told then the Norfolk people should be told.
Does that gem get me a copy?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Posted by: George Laird at July 2, 2009 4:10 PM
I understand she was born in Hawaii in the next bed to Obama
Posted by: yassau nafti at July 2, 2009 4:48 PM
She was probably born in Ipswich!!!!
Posted by: Jamie Murray at July 2, 2009 4:57 PM
I must admit I've found very little evidence to support her claims of being a local girl. The tories have done a wonderful job of spamming the "local girl through and through" line at every opportunity it would seem, nearest I've found is that she claims to have been raise, as Alex T mentioned - in Stoke Ferry. For a laugh I've emailed them and asked if they could find out if she was born there (with only 900 residents it's fairly likely this information would be quick to gather). I'll let you know if I hear back from them.
That they are getting tetchy about this suggests to me that you're probably on to something. Be a crying shame if it was shown that she was lying even over something as petty as this, not to mention a legitimate concern for those doing the voting.
Posted by: the_leander at July 2, 2009 7:03 PM
Alex T,
there seem to be some different opinions on her age - I take it you were going by Crick's info of her current age being 27, though even that could mean she was born in '81.
From Dales's info she could have been born in '83 or '84 (link below).
I have not done such a search and do not know how the registration information is recorded and sorted, but it may be that registration could sometimes take place in the year following birth so possibly even the first few months of '85 need to be considered.
Good luck with the search.
http://theyoungconservative.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/iain-dale-interviews-ppc-chloe-smith-25-2/
Posted by: Derek P at July 2, 2009 7:12 PM
Whoops! '84 not really possible from the info given is it? Sorry.
Posted by: Derek P at July 2, 2009 7:24 PM
Who does she work for and are they Conservative party donors?
From her blog
Chloe now works for a leading international firm which advises private businesses, government departments and public bodies.
Posted by: mary at July 2, 2009 8:36 PM
Does anyone else think that her age may work against her? Thinking here about a possible backlash against those MPs who left university, became an MP's researcher and before you knew it were sitting on the comfy green leather benches :-)
Posted by: SJB at July 2, 2009 10:11 PM
Did anyone read the responses attributed to her in The Guardian?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/sep/04/conservatives
Note her uses of the words 'really' and 'totally' in her answers.
Posted by: SJB at July 2, 2009 10:19 PM
According to UK Polling Report, she used to be a "[f]ormer aide to Gillian Shephard and Bernard Jenkin, [and is] now working in professional services."
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/norwichnorth
I think Jenkin is an MP, and Shephard stepped down in 2005. I wonder if "professional services" will turn out to be PR or lobbying?
Posted by: SJB at July 2, 2009 10:33 PM
It's not so much her age, more that she comes over as a wittering airhead with the gravitas of a plate of blancmange. Her proposals for education - "opening up the supply side" and opening up equality" - sound a particularly brain cell free zone. Surprised she didn't join New Labour really.
Posted by: MJ at July 2, 2009 10:52 PM
She works for Deloitte in the area of human capital.
Posted by: Ruth at July 3, 2009 12:56 AM
You're right MJ - she would have joined NuLab if they had a chance of power in the next election. It's a case of "Do I want to be in the next government, or the one after that?". Because that's the unappetising choice voters have at the moment - the alternation of Labour/Tories with nothing to differentiate them other than trifling differences of opinion and personality.
As for her anodyne answers in The Guardian's questionnaire, I could have written that myself - it's boilerplate political gossamer. She said nothing. God help us.
Posted by: Tom Kennedy at July 3, 2009 2:45 AM
Ruth says Ms Smith works for Deloittes.
Cameroon's Director of Finance and Registered Treasurer is Ian McIsaac, a former partner at Deloittes.
http://www.conservatives.com/People/Members_of_the_Board/McIsaac_Ian.aspx
'Prior to his appointment, Ian had for many years been a partner in Deloitte. He initially specialised in Corporate Finance and Restructuring and was the Founder Chairman of the Society of Turnaround Professionals. In recent years he has held a number of senior management roles with the Deloitte global organisation.'
Posted by: mary at July 3, 2009 6:34 AM
Thanks, Ruth.
"After doing my degree in English Literature, I knew I wanted a career in management consultancy because you can make such a difference to large organisations," she [Chloe Smith] says.
http://www.independent.co.uk/student/postgraduate/getting-the-best-out-of-people-508746.html
Posted by: SJB at July 3, 2009 11:45 AM
Two minutes googling reveal that there's a Chloe Smith who is the daughter of Claire and David Smith of Stoke Ferry, and that there's a David Smith in Stoke Ferry who moved there in 1985, having previously lived with his wife and children in Kent.
My guess is that Chloe Smith was born in Ashford.
Posted by: paul at July 3, 2009 11:47 AM
Perhaps a good question to put to Ms Smith is whether she agrees with Francis Maude's assessment that spending £4 billion on management consultants is burning taxpayers' money.
http://www.conservatives.com/News/News_stories/2009/04/Maude_attacks_Labour_for_spending_4bn_on_management_consultants.aspx
Posted by: SJB at July 3, 2009 11:49 AM
"After doing my degree in English Literature, I knew I wanted a career in management consultancy because you can make such a ...."
.... big pile of dosh?
Posted by: David Allen at July 3, 2009 4:16 PM
if the police know your name, date of birth, and where you were born, they can tell if you have a record.
Posted by: john gibson at July 3, 2009 4:47 PM
Hi Craig,
There’s no mystery, and no one’s been getting tetchy.
I haven’t been asked by any journalists, so I’m not sure where you got that idea from, but I’ve never made any bones about my place of birth. I was born in Ashford, Kent, but moved to Norfolk at the age of three. I lived here until I went to university, and my parents and grandparents still live in Stoke Ferry. Now I’ve got a flat of my own in Norwich. My first memories are of growing up in Norfolk; when I was at school, I set up a youth forum for young people across the county; and I was campaigning for the Conservatives in Norwich before I was selected as the Parliamentary Candidate here 18 months ago. That’s why I say I’m a Norfolk girl through and through.
Best wishes,
Chloe
Posted by: Chloe Smith at July 3, 2009 7:07 PM
So that's cleared that up then. I think paul @ 11.47am deserves his free copy of The Catholic Orangemen.
Posted by: MJ at July 3, 2009 8:05 PM
So. The free copy of "The Catholic Orangemen of Togo" should go to Chloe Smith. I hope she enjoys it and finds it instructional.
It will teach her the sort of real world experience people used to aquire before becoming MPs in the days before a couple of years out of University was considered enough experience to start running the country.
Posted by: Derek at July 3, 2009 8:11 PM
@ Paul
Googling Chloe Smith's parents was good thinking, but how did you work out that she was born in Ashford? Was it its being a center for rail communication, or being the largest district in Kent?
Posted by: Abe Rene at July 3, 2009 8:12 PM
Abe Rene:
Alex T yesterday @ 2:33 PM did the groundwork. He paid for a search of the register of births for 1982 and narrowed it down to 8 possibilities. Sterling work. Worth a copy of the book too I feel.
Posted by: MJ at July 3, 2009 8:30 PM
Lloyd George was born in Manchester, and former Welsh Nationalist leader Dafydd Wigley was born in Derby. Andrew Bonar Law, Prime Minister 1922-3 was born in Canada, while current Welsh Secretary Peter Hain was born in Africa. Your point is?
Posted by: Gerard Charmley at July 3, 2009 9:28 PM
I think the point is transparency.
Posted by: MJ at July 3, 2009 9:41 PM
@ MJ
Yes, that's very good deduction by paul on the basis of Alex T's research. Because of the way the competition was set - the first person to know where Chloe was born - if there were only one winner I would give the prize to paul, but honorable mention to Alex T.
Posted by: Abe Rene at July 3, 2009 9:57 PM
Do you mean transPEARancy as our Glorious Leader pronounces the most often used word in his vocabulary. I don't know why hearing him say it makes me so annoyed.
Posted by: mary at July 3, 2009 10:49 PM
Chloe,
It wasn't you getting tetchy, just your minders.
OK, you get the prize.
Posted by: Craig at July 4, 2009 12:48 PM
So Craig says it doesn't matter where Chloe was born but then writes a whole post attempting to question her credentials on that basis. If it didn't matter to him, or if he didn't think he could get some kind of political mileage out of it, he would never have written this post.
So much for being "an honest man", Craig. You're trying to undermine your opponents whichever way you can, and it is sad that you have sunk to such depths. Many people respected you prior to this little vanity project you call an election campaign, but no more.
Posted by: Denim Justice at July 4, 2009 12:52 PM
Denim Justice.
Yes I am. I gave away 72% of the company to Africans, of my own free will. I don't take a salary or dividend. You really are a sad little man.
Posted by: Craig at July 4, 2009 2:18 PM
Don't feed the troll, Craig. He(?) has provided no evidence to support his claim that many people no longer respect you. More people will come to admire you for taking on the party machines.
The first opinion poll for Norwich North has the Conservatives at just 34%. You must get across your past sucessful business experience to potential Tory voters because (a) that marks you out from those who merely advise and (b) reduces the risk of being seen by them as another Leftie who will want to spend more of their taxes.
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/2190
Posted by: SJB at July 4, 2009 2:58 PM
The Greens are already polling at 14%. Danger of a bandwagon effect here because they may pick up more disillusioned Labour voters, repeating what happened in the recent European Election. How solid is the LibDem support?
Posted by: SJB at July 4, 2009 3:07 PM
Despite Chloe's protestations that there's no mystery nor "bones" about her place of birth, there's nothing on her website about her being born in Ashford, Kent. On the contrary the piece is written in such as way as to lead a reasonable reader to infer that she was born locally.
That coupled with her minders tetchiness over the issue rather slam dunks the matter.
I'm amused that she's holding to the "Norfolk girl through and through". If it were preceded by, "Despite being born in Asford, Kent..." it might have been more honest.
I'm not sure I want any more of these careerist politicians, in any event. I think that's where this culture of spinning everything comes from. They've done enough damage already.
It's about time we had some plain straight honest speakers for a change.
Posted by: Veritas at July 4, 2009 5:41 PM
Just posted about this issue on Iain Dale's blog, chiding him about being scooped by Craig even though Ian has a local interest himself.
The post went onto the blog but I see he's now removed it.
Obviously the sanctimoniously cloying one doesn't like too much truth, for all his protestations to decency.
Anyway I've got a discussion going on it on Guido's blog so it'll get a bit more coverage.
I'd just like to say to Iain, you are one very sad man.
Posted by: Veritas at July 4, 2009 7:36 PM
Thanks MJ and Abe Rene. Craig promised the prize to whomever "knows" where Chloe Smith was born, so Chloe herself is the rightful winner.
A cynic might suspect that Chloe's newfound openness on the issue not to be entirely unrelated to having already been rumbled. An ardent proponent of political plaindealing might think it proper for Craig not to adopt a strict interpretation of the rules of his own competition. A reader who cherishes discretion might think these speculations overdone.
Posted by: paul at July 5, 2009 11:05 AM


