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July 1, 2009
On Being Insignificant
After an eight hour delay, I have just been telephoned back by what sounded like the most junior member of the Newsnight team. He told me that in the "Editorial judgement" of the BBC, I was not a "Significant candidate".
I will therefore not figure in BBC coverage other than the mandatory two second caption at the end. For Newsnight, Michael Crick will give the statutory mention this evening.
By denying me any media exposure the BBC are, of course, consciously attempting to make their prediction of our failure a self-fulfilling prophecy, and to silence one of the most known voices against the political establishment in the UK.
I do hope the people of Norwich North will prove the arrogant and super-rich executives of the BBC wrong.
Posted by craig on July 1, 2009 8:04 PM in the category The Election
Comments
So do I.
Posted by: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill at July 1, 2009 8:53 PM
"He told me that in the "Editorial judgement" of the BBC, I was not a "Significant candidate"."
My god. And they know full well that they have the power to significantly affect your campaign. Looks like they've been given their marching orders. It's disgusting.
Posted by: dreoilin at July 1, 2009 8:56 PM
But your odds on winning the election (at 25/1) are significantly better than the Liberals (33/1) - that is out of order!
I'm going to email the BBC and suggest everyone (especially those who can't make it down to Norwich) does the same. This is how easy it is:
1) Go to this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaints_stage1.shtml
2) Complain: I.e. I strongly protest at the lack of coverage given by BBC news programmes, in particular Newsnight, of the independent candidate in the Norwich North By Election, Mr Craig Murray. I would like to know why the BBC is not featuring him in its analysis of the campaign as a major candidate given his high profile and the fact that his odds of winning are much better than the Liberal Democrats.
The whole process, if you cut and paste my complaint should take you no more than 2 minutes...DO IT NOW!!!
Posted by: Stevie at July 1, 2009 8:57 PM
Someone on the other thread suggested the slogan, "The Man the BBC ignored". Not a bad idea.
Posted by: dreoilin at July 1, 2009 8:57 PM
So there we are, straight from the horse's mouth. Independent candidates rarely get much exposure on the BBC. Except for former-employee Martin Bell of course. I wonder why that was.
Posted by: MJ at July 1, 2009 8:59 PM
Don't forget this is the same BBC that broadcast news of the collapse of WTC7 several minutes BEFORE it fell. They maintain a veneer of authority, but when it really matters, they cannot be depended on to be truthful. They are not the public's servant as they should be.
Posted by: David at July 1, 2009 9:05 PM
Nice, aren't they?
Remember, the rule is:
I think, therefore I am not.
Posted by: Suhayl Saadi at July 1, 2009 9:06 PM
Done.
Posted by: at July 1, 2009 9:07 PM
Esp. post-Hutton, the BBC is a eunuch.
Posted by: Suhayl Saadi at July 1, 2009 9:08 PM
If you ask me, he's not just an independent candidate. He's a dangerous one -- to some people. Anyway, I wrote to the BeeB, even though I don't pay your license fee!
Posted by: dreoilin at July 1, 2009 9:12 PM
Or email directly to Helen Boaden, the BBC's head of news at HelenBoadenComplaints@bbc.co.uk as I just did.
R
Posted by: Ron at July 1, 2009 9:13 PM
It is really cheap (possibly free) to project incredibly effective advertising using light.
Think light shows.
Whilst Programmable Lasers are (Not Allowed), Programmable LEDS do not need an entertainment licence
And if someone just turns up with the kit
All they need is a SLIDE to Project over The Lord Mayor's Show
Its AMAZING How Much Light LEDS can Project
Solar Powered Of Course
The Greens have got to be Upstaged.
They are Your Only Competition.
When we got our own place - we were sometimes working opposite Shifts
And my wife had never had a cat in her life.
So one day - when I was working lates - I phoned her up - when I knew she would have got home from working at a bank in the City.
I said - what do you think of our latest acquisition?
She said what do you mean?
And the kitten said miaow.
And she went all soft and silly.
The kitten was called Chloe
The kitten had lots of Babies
Well 5 to be exact.
We kept one of them
And called her Pretty Face.
This is an Election Broadcast For The Conservative Party
Chloe and Pretty Face Together Lived With Us For Over 18 Years
Chloe is Now 27 - which makes the Timing Extremely Close
But Chloe Doesn't Know What Craig Has Got Hidden Up His Sleeve
Tony
Posted by: tony_opmoc at July 1, 2009 9:23 PM
Tony - it'd be good if you could keep your points succinct when we are trying to mobilise action otherwise people may think you are trying to cause a distraction. EVERYONE email Newsnight and the BBC please! NOW!!!!
Posted by: Stevie at July 1, 2009 9:33 PM
Staggering.
BBC putting themselves above the punting public. Always knew there was an elitist streak there. Broadcasters get like that unless they have strong principles and character. And such people are few enough.
I have commented on both the general Newsnight and Crick blogs, including asking why the authors don't answer comments like any other well behaved blogger.
Posted by: Póló at July 1, 2009 9:46 PM
You must keep pressing with the BBC. I produced the climate change greater threat then terrorism risk assessment. A member of the committee the report went to was former Chief Scientific Advisor. He gave it global publicity, but never said I was the original author.
The BBC then announced a weeks programming on 'his' work. Viewers were ask to phone in. I did and told them I was the author. Passed to the editor putting the programme together. He went to the Government website were my work was. He verified dates, content etc that I was the original author.
He even admitted that I had a broader understanding of the issues and was a excellent communicator. But he said the Chief Scientist was a celebrity and a media personality. News was about ratings. So the BBC knowing mislead the public. They admitted I was the true author, but would pretend the Chief Scientist was for the public just for the ratings.
A few months ago NN contacted me. I began to explain to the producer something. He started ranting "You're wrong you're wrong, let me tell you why".
I realised being he wasn't listening, he had completely misinterpreted me. I said "I didn't mean that".
He went off on a hissy fit. "Oh well if you don't want me to explain why you are wrong, I don't want to speak to you"
Then slammed the phone down.
For anyone who hasn't dealt with the BBC Craig's experience appears to be the norm. If you don't fit in their narrow agenda of what they consider right. They have no interest. So the public do not get to hear the full spectrum of views on a subject.
So Craig don't get paranoid, or it is you in respect of this by election. What you have experienced appears to be normal BBC behaviour.
Posted by: Roger Thomas Celtic Lion at July 1, 2009 9:59 PM
Shocking, shameful ZBC. I will e-mail them now.
BTW MJ, Martin Bell's nephew is Oliver Kamm, Times Newspapers, part of the Murdochcracy. Can you see how all is interwoven?
RMS said on medialens tonight -
Appalling BBC and ITV bias
Posted by RMS on July 1, 2009, 7:03 pm
I (am) astounded at the increasing level of right wing bias by out two major TV channels. Not just by the distortions and twisting of facts and news for which they are well known for, but the silence on issues that are uncomfortable for the government and countries like Israel.
There has not been one single mention of the hijacking of the boat carrying aid to Gaza and the kidnapping of the passengers by Israeli forces.
There has been very little comment regarding the coup in Honduras.
Nothing has been reported about the trial of the deranged fascist bomb maker Neil Lewington at the Old Bailey. (Imagine of he had been a Muslim, the BBC would have been encamped outside for the whole trial with lurid stories and make believe)
This week the daughters of Che Guevara and Raoul Castro have been addressing packed meetings across London. Not a mention, they are not Diva's or overpaid celebrities you see.
So it goes on, the left,like Craig Murray,are marginalised, boycotted, frozen out of all debates.
The BBC and ITV have to be brought to account somehow.
Posted by: mary at July 1, 2009 10:25 PM
You could always start up your own newspaper/TV channel if you think the present ones are so bad. Assuming you can raise the funds or get enough support of course. Then again the track record of the Morning Star, Daily News, Independent etc isn't too encouraging. Or you could get all your mates to pass the exams and get jobs at the BBC and change it from within, instead of slagging it off from your sofas. Aren't the proles a disgrace? You just can't get them interested in your political views or fringe candidates. If only they would think for themselves and stop reading the bloody Sun.
Posted by: eddie at July 1, 2009 10:37 PM
eddie eddie eddie ...
So you think it's ok for him to be ignored by the Beeb even if his odds are better than the Lib Dems?
Posted by: dreoilin at July 1, 2009 10:44 PM
BBC needs to show the following:
Labour = Corruption.
Conservatives = More Corruption.
Lib Dems = Less Corruption.
Craig Murray = Clean up politics once and for all, deliver services to people in efficient ways and avoid waste on pointless policies which do nothing for not just British citizens but the whole world. Norwich North to be a unique constituency which represents and sets an example to the whole of the UK.
Posted by: Ebrahim Piperdy at July 1, 2009 10:48 PM
Outside now ya fucking bastards, come on, come the fuck on
Posted by: Dick the Prick at July 1, 2009 10:49 PM
E-mail to michael.crick@bbc.co.uk
July 1st 2009 10.50pm
Dear Mr Crick
I have always valued your reports on Newsnight both for content and delivery. I am therefore dismayed that you omitted all mention of Craig Murray as an Independent candidate in the forthcoming Norwich North by-election in your report last night. Could you tell me why this is so and who gave instructions that his name should be omitted. I understand that he has received a call this evening from a junior member of your team telling him that he is considered to be Not Significant. How insulting to him and to the viewing public that the national broadcaster has sunk to this. I thought that it was part of your remit to inform.
This action is both shameful and shocking. If there were more of his calibre, bravery and honesty in Parliament, the country would not be in its current mess. You must give him fair and equal coverage.
Please rectify your omission and show some courage. Stand up against your bosses.
Yrs etc.
Posted by: mary at July 1, 2009 10:50 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2009/07/wednesday_1_july_2009.html#P82335494
Posted by: Roger Thomas Celtic Lion at July 1, 2009 10:51 PM
"List of candidates for Norwich last night ... Unfortunately we left a few names off. Here they are for you now"
--Paxman
Slide appears with list of names, for count of 2 seconds.
Zap.
Posted by: dreoilin at July 1, 2009 11:20 PM
"List of candidates for Norwich last night ... Unfortunately we left a few names off. Here they are for you now"
--Paxman
Slide appears with list of names, for count of 2 seconds. I just about barely caught Craig's name.
Zap.
Posted by: dreoilin at July 1, 2009 11:20 PM
Is it not the case that when the BBC gives free airtime to candidates, they're providing a cost benefit in terms of candidate funding?
So, insofar as they discriminate against other candidates there must be some discrepancy in the reported expenditure by individual candidates.
Surely there must be something in the electoral legislation somewhere that covers this?
I realise that the BBC have been doing this for yonks but perhaps no one's pulled them on it before.
It does seem like an abuse on their part. Worth looking at, maybe.
Posted by: Carlos Marcos at July 1, 2009 11:28 PM
I thought the most revealing thing was the discussion immediately before with the chap from PressTV, accusing him of less-than-impartial reporting.
Posted by: MJ at July 1, 2009 11:32 PM
as per my previous posting, PLEASE COMPLAIN TO THE BBC ABOUT THE LACK OF COVERAGE FOR CRAIG MURRAY in the By Election - it is simple to do
Posted by: Stevie at July 1, 2009 11:34 PM
Done, here's my version:
I strongly protest at the lack of coverage given by BBC news programmes, in particular Newsnight, of the independent candidate in the Norwich North By Election, Craig Murray. I would like to know why the BBC is not featuring him in its analysis of the campaign as a "significant" candidate, given his high profile and the fact that his odds of winning are currently better than those for the Liberal Democrats.
In truth, Craig Murray is the only candidate who actually stands any chance at all of beating the Tories. I am sure you know that. Are you not worried that the next scandal to hit the BBC will be your obvious incompetence - or deliberate bias - in reporting this byelection?
Posted by: David Allen at July 2, 2009 12:05 AM
There is a campaign website at
www.putanhonestman.org
www.putanhonestmaninparliament.org.uk
If people post the URL around the web we can get search engines to notice it.
Posted by: Derek at July 2, 2009 1:21 AM
Oh boo-hoo, not on NN, part of the mainstream media that you seem to hate but wish to court and crave attention from. Any mention on the local news, TV or radio. Best idea is a radio ad on the local station during commuter drive-time.
As for bookies odds? May aswell trust every Sun/Star readers text poll then.
Fight the good fight Gunga Din but I think you have picked the wrong battle here and too early, reality will be a shaving of votes from all but the Tory lot.
G'luck any-how.
Posted by: Eh.. at July 2, 2009 1:42 AM
'He told me that in the "Editorial judgement" of the BBC, I was not a "Significant candidate".'
I love it... 'The BBC'. It's always the institutional cop out isn't it. It's that darned BBC. You should have asked him who was responsible for that decision. I bet they all try to pass the buck. It would turn out no one has a clue who made the 'Judgement'. Well, it was just so wasn't it. Persistance could shed light on blocking tactics like this, as there is inevitably a chain of command in place, but you obviously don't have time for that right now. We all need to focus on that in the future. It's 'they' who are insignificant, not you. Keep fighting.
Posted by: Jaded at July 2, 2009 3:28 AM
Hang on a minute. These bastards have had the BNP on their programmes fairly regularly recently. They also regularly love to feature Zionazi spokesman and apologists for torture and illegal wars. I guess it tells you something about the mindset of senior BBC editors and management. I will put in a complaint as well but I doubt whether it will go any further than some junior busybody who gets paid to delete complaints.
Posted by: Kebz at July 2, 2009 8:29 AM
The reply from Michael Crick. A one-liner. My questions about who made the decision not to include Craig's name was not answered.
'Keep watching. He should be on a list at the end of the programme. M'
A 2 second flash of a list of names introduced at the end by Paxman.
I agree with MJ about NN's attempt to demonize Press TV and Iran. Press and Al Jazeera were the only sources of accurate and live coverage of Operation Cast Lead. The 'major' presenter who has left Press TV is Nick Ferrari, who was the MC and cheerleader at the Trafalgar Square celebrations for Israel's 60th Birthday last year ie a celebration of Al Naqba, the theft of the Palestinians' land. Ed Balls was on the stage along with others including the Chief Rabbi and Union flags were being waved amongst the Israeli flags. Earlier a grand dinner for this birthday had been held at Windsor Castle courtesy of HM Queen.
@ Eh We do not crave attention from NN. We are licence payers for the national broadcaster and demand fair and equal treatment for everyone. See 3 and 4 of the Charter.
3.The BBC’s public nature and its objects
(1)The BBC exists to serve the public interest.
(2)The BBC’s main object is the promotion of its Public Purposes.
(3)In addition, the BBC may maintain, establish or acquire subsidiaries through whichcommercial activities may be undertaken to any extent permitted by a FrameworkAgreement. (The BBC’s general powers enable it to maintain, establish or acquiresubsidiaries for purposes sufficiently connected with its Public Purposes – see article47(3) and (4)).
4.The Public Purposes
The Public Purposes of the BBC are as follows—
(a)sustaining citizenship and civil society;
(b)promoting education and learning;
(c)stimulating creativity and cultural excellence;
(d)representing the UK, its nations, regions and communities;2
Posted by: mary at July 2, 2009 8:33 AM
In addition to complaining via the BBC website as Stevie suggested, I have also complained by telephone to the BBC on 03700-100-222. I had a considerable wait (some 5 minutes) for an operator, but I think this was worth while. I expanded considerably on my written complaint (see below) by emphasising my concern that the BBC should not show favouritism for the established political parties in coverage of elections, especially in a period when a large part of the political news has been corruption within the main parties. I added that I was concerned that the BBC was not meeting the standards of the Electoral Commission for impartiality in hustings coverage, and was thereby giving a publicity bonus to big parties (who pay no more as a deposit than smaller parties or Independent candidates). At the end I was offered the choice of a response by telephone or in writing. I asked for it in writing and by emphasising my wish to know that they have taken on board Electoral Commission guidance, I hope this makes it harder for them to give me a pro-forma response of the sort which will no doubt soon be posted on the website. If they give me a bland reply, they will get a further written complaint. I am also going to complain about the BBC's election coverage to the Electoral Commission, to my MP and to other places that bloggers here suggest.
My complaint on the BBC website was:
"I was saddened that a public broadcaster should ignore entirely a significant Independent candidate in the Norwich North by-Election, Craig Murray. As a trenchant critic of the government on human rights, he is a good example of the willingness to speak truth to power. It is deeply disturbing that the BBC considers such a voice "insignificant"."
Posted by: Iain Orr at July 2, 2009 10:22 AM
Insignificant in The Independent, see poll at bottom
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-candidate-faces-mission-impossible-in-norwich-byelection-1728002.html
Posted by: Roger Thomas Celtic Lion at July 2, 2009 10:32 AM
The bbc probably have been told that if they interview you they will get no special treatment from the labour party.
Covering only two parties is much easier for the lazier staff in the media.
Posted by: Bananas in the Falklands at July 2, 2009 10:38 AM
Craig,
If it's any consolation, I heard your name mentioned in a radio report on the election on yesterday's PM.
Posted by: Barrie at July 2, 2009 11:03 AM
Again, for all those who can't make it to Norwich please could you send an email to The Independent complaining that the article by Andy McSmith in their paper today gave no reference to Craig Murray who is leading a strong, local campaign. Their email address is: newseditor@independent.co.uk
Please can you also continue to post links to the Norwich North By Election website which is: http://www.putanhonestman.org/
Posted by: Stevie at July 2, 2009 11:16 AM
"Esp. post-Hutton, the BBC is a eunuch."
A red-herring. The BBC are the same as they ever were - a propaganda vehicle for the powerful. In the run-up to Iraq they were the most pro-war broadcaster for example.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jul2003/bbc-j10.shtml
An ex-British diplomat who was sacked for exposing the torture practices of an ally and who is widely known in the anti-war movement and beyond, and who is now getting better odds than the Lib Dems and Greens is "not notable enough" for Newsnight? They must think we were born yesterday.
We see through you BBC.
Posted by: JB at July 2, 2009 11:25 AM
I've created a page on http://theywanttoworkforyou.com about you and encourage you and your supporters to expand it with more pertinent information.
Direct link to Norwich North by-election page on theywanttoworkforyou.com with all candidates listed:
http://twtwfy.wikia.com/wiki/Norwich_North_(By-election)
Posted by: Mark Baker at July 2, 2009 12:16 PM
Craig have you seen this:
http://www.businessinberkshire.co.uk/pool-story.php?newsid=6859
Posted by: JB at July 2, 2009 1:29 PM
Have you all forgotten the Death of Dr. Kelly and the role of Newsnight in discrediting Gilligan?
Newsnight is more aptly ought to be named Spooksviews, has long been free loading on the backs of evident eviscerations of the preconceived enemies of the moment, for blood sports viewers.
Paxo gladiatorial and beat the guy with the wet end of his torn arm style of presentation along with his inflated opinion of himself leave very little room for facts, and lots of room for kind of “not the newsnight antics” along with smattering of irrelevancies to keep it current.
Therefore not approved by Newsnight candidate ought to carry some weight among the thinking population, whom do not subscribe to the notions of; there ought to be a law passed against thinking for yourself, and brains are for sitting on to keep brand new and not thinking.
If you recollect Gilligan's crime was to say Tony Blair's Iraq dossier was “sexed up”! Since then truth has proved that Gilligan was mildly, very mildly describing the pack of lies presented as reasons for war, however in the mean time poor Kelly was Suicided, and Gilligan was sacked, and we found out Susan Watts is a gopher for spooks, along with the rest of SIS assets in the BBC.
Posted by: VamanosBandidos at July 2, 2009 1:49 PM
http://timesonline.typepad.com/oliver_kamm/2009/07/calling-mr-pooter.html
From The Times.
The Diary of a Nobody is one of my favourite books. A rare accoldade!
Posted by: eddie at July 2, 2009 2:44 PM
@ eddie
Reading your own biography is akin to watching a repeat on the sky channel, but hey, different strokes for different folks eddie, aye?
now git.
Posted by: HappyClappy at July 2, 2009 5:56 PM
July 2, 2009
"Covering (up) the coup in Honduras - the BBC does its bit for the Empire"...
http://tinyurl.com/l9mohh
Posted by: George Dutton at July 4, 2009 5:04 PM
That's a ludicrous decision by the BBC. They gave coverage to Nick Griffin's farcical press conferences before the Euro-elections and went on about the BNP so much they helped create a self-fulfilling prophecy. The government did the same by talking about the BNP all the time. I'm starting to wonder if the government are trying to boost the BNP vote.
I hope the BBC change their mind on this - you're a highly significant candidate.
Posted by: Duncan McFarlane at July 5, 2009 1:41 AM
BBC = "Agent of influence"...
http://tinyurl.com/n69nbm
Posted by: George Dutton at July 5, 2009 10:16 AM
This is utter nonsense on BBC's part. In the past one year BBC seems to have taken a sharp downturn in it's outlook. It doesn't even pretend to be neutral now.
Posted by: Manas Shaikh at July 6, 2009 3:02 PM
RogerThomas wrote
"Insignificant in The Independent, see poll at bottom
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-candidate-faces-mission-impossible-in-norwich-byelection-1728002.html"
That's not a poll Roger - that's the result in 2005, when Craig Murray wasn't a candidate. He was standing in Blackburn.
You're also missing the point, which is that the amount of coverage each candidate gets affects their poll rating and the vote they get. So arguing as Michael Crick does, that coverage should be proportional to share of the vote or poll rating, is a circular argument and a self-fulfilling prophecy - and flies in the face of the BBC's claim that it provides unbiased coverage
Posted by: Duncan McFarlane at July 6, 2009 7:22 PM


