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November 25, 2009

Won't You Come Home Bill Bailey?

Travelling around West Africa by road, I still very frequently cross old British Bailey bridges. I cannot understand why we are continually being bombarded with news of the plight of the bridgeless people of Workington, and that the army has not been deployed to put up a Bailey bridge or its modern equivalent.

The Army must have bridging capacity. I recall, for example, that when we were holding armoured brigade exercises in Drawsko in Western Poland in 1996, a plan to take some tanks into Warsaw for PR purposes was scuppered by the fact that none of the bridges would take a British main battle tank, and it was rightly deemed not worth the cash to throw them up for a PR exercise. But I can't believe that even this government is so incompetent that the army cannot get over a river. Or is all our bridging capacity being deployed to facilitate the movement of opium and heroin for the drugs warlords of the Karzai government?

Posted by craig on November 25, 2009 9:03 AM in the category UK Policy


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The tossers in government would rather bail out the banksters than bail out Cumbria.

Posted by: Phil at November 25, 2009 9:44 AM


You're probably correct, Craig. The main focus of the British Army is concentrated on the Afpak 'front', not Britain. I wonder how many helicopters would be available if they weren't all on the other side of the world too?

Posted by: writerman at November 25, 2009 10:07 AM


Sorry this is off-topic Craig, but just to alert you to this article by Eric Walberg in Al Ahram Weekly, spotted at the very useful "Vineyard of the Saker".

The piece in itself is very interesting but also refers to your own efforts at some length towards, and at, the end.

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2009/11/canadas-guantanamo.html

Posted by: Johan van Rooyen at November 25, 2009 11:01 AM


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailey_bridge

I grew up un Bournemouth and used to pass MEXE every day on the way to school and see the huge metal structures there.

(www.army.mod.uk/royalengineers/equipment/701.aspx) Royal Engineer Bridging Assets

There still is a corps called REME btw and it has not been pruvatised or outsourced yet!

Posted by: mary at November 25, 2009 11:20 AM


From the Professional Spokesperson, seconded to the Ministry of Useful Works:

"The courses on bullding bridges, previously of 'A' level standard, in order to be accessible to a wider number, have had their content downgraded to CSE standard and the pass mark lowered to 25 per cent. However, since a degree is worth £500,000 over a lifetime, the qualification at the end has been upgraded to degree level for official statistical purposes. Therefore, to learn to build such high-tech infrastructure, bearing in mind the Health and Safety aspects, the candidates will have to take a Bridging Course ..

Posted by: Abe Rene at November 25, 2009 11:41 AM


I heard on the media over the weekend that the army has offered to build a Bailey bridge Craig, but further 'discussions' were needed.

As an aside, only last year on the A93 to Braemar a new section of road was opened. It was built to avoid the delay caused by traffic lights at a Bailey bridge built in the 1940 after a landslide. This bridge has certainly stood the test of time because there is no other road to Braemar from the south. It can be seen from the new piece of road and will be used by the landowners now. There are no plans to remove it.

Posted by: Subrosa at November 25, 2009 11:58 AM


This is what happened in Louisiana and the Mississippi Gulf Coast, after all. Helicopters, equipment and the National Guard had all been deployed in Iraq/Afghanistan.

Posted by: glenn at November 25, 2009 1:02 PM


To be fair, another 4 inches of rain were forecast for yesterday, I think another washout has in the end not happened, but it was probably worth waiting for that to pass before getting going on a bailey bridge?

Posted by: Strategist at November 25, 2009 4:49 PM


Seems the Royal Engineers are currently "measuring a possible site for a footbridge upstream of the Calva Bridge."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8377314.stm

Looking with Google Earth the river is a little wider than the 60 metres Wikipedia says Bailey Bridges can do in a single span.

Posted by: rwendland at November 26, 2009 2:20 AM


Interview yesterday (25th Nov) on the Today programme at 07:34 with Peter Lloyd the MD of the company that makes the modern version of the Bailey Bridge. The problem is an engineering one: if the foundations of the old bridge are not sound, new foundations and access roads must be built even for a temporary bridge. That takes weeks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8377000/8377863.stm

Limited time to listen again, I suppose.

Posted by: rob at November 26, 2009 10:11 AM


Bollocks !!!

We will always look for excuses excuses elf & safety, not my job guv etc etc. Its just we are to lazy and to scared to make a decision. Did anyone ever see challenge Anneka on the telly. Put a tv camera on it call it a game show or top gear and half the world would be down there with helicopters bull dozers and the bridge would be up before you know it. This country is paralysed by idiots too scared to make a decision and companies too corrupt to put an honest price on a job adding four zeros because its a government contract. God help us all if we had a real disaster. The blitz spirit has long gone.


Posted by: stuart at November 26, 2009 10:46 AM


"I cannot understand why we are continually being bombarded with news of the plight of the bridgeless people of Workington, and that the army has not been deployed to put up a Bailey bridge or its modern equivalent"

Just like the USA the UK cannot afford to fight illegal wars to make a few people rich and see to the needs of the british people...

http://tinyurl.com/48r8l5

Posted by: George Dutton at November 26, 2009 4:26 PM


Just finished repairing an old Bailey here in Congo over the Lwizi river,it was made in Manchester in 1943 and shipped out here after WW2, actually stamped with date etc...

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