Celebrity Dissent

by craig on July 10, 2011 7:20 am in Uncategorized

I am awake at this unholy hour because I am about to start the tortuous Sunday rail journey between Ramsgate and Diss, in order to attend Julian Assange’s fortieth birthday party at Ellingham Hall.

I am not sure who else is going, but the initial invitation did not give train information, but did tell you where to land your private plane or helicopter. I am going because I think Wikileaks do essential work and because I think Julian is an extraordinary mand and is being stitched up – his appeal against extradition is on Tuesday and this week he could be in a cell in Sweden on those entirely ludicrous sexual assault charges. I am also gong because I hope that some of the whistleblowing community might be there. And I am going because it says “party”!

Nonetheless, I worry that the amusing fact that the invitation tells you where to land your private jet or helicopter, actually is an indication of where Wikilleaks is going wrong.

That is perhaps strange for me to say of a thriving organisation with funds and staff, who have exposed much more of government wrongdoing than I ever managed. But I could not understand why Julian was using the celebrity media lawyer Stephens rather than one of our great, solid human rights lawyers. I emailed wikileaks several times before the trial to say they had absolutely the wrong kind of lawyer, and that there were several much more appropriate human rights lawyers used to dealing with politically motivated criminal charges, with a terrific record and respect in the courts, and who may well take it on pro bono. I got no reply. I presumed that this was because Wikileaks were being loyal to lawyers who believed in them, had been their lawyers before criminal charges arose, and who worked for them for nothing. But I now read that Assange has unpaid legal bills of £200,000. I think that Don King haired lawyer bloke who yelled a lot was a major mistake.

I also worry that they managed to fall out with David Leigh of the Guardian, for whom I have huge respect (which he has made plain to me is not mutual, but that is another story). I was myself very offended indeed when I was kicked off the panel of Assange’s New Statesman debate on whistleblowing. I suspect it was a combination of establishment objections, and a desire to curry favour with the New Statesman and Al Jazeera, for both of whom I made room. But the whole Stephens/Al Jazeera/stately home/celebrities in private jets thing indicates to me a fascination with the bubble celebrity which will leave you crying when it bursts.

I am one of Assange’s admirers, not one of his detractors. I am going along to show my genuine support. There may in fact be a good turnout, because this is probably the best chance this weekend for the radical chic wealthy to get together and thrill over the wounds of Murdoch. There is an auction of donations to raise funds for his legal expenses, which I hope goes well – personal bids will establish a reserve price, and then the items will go on to ebay. I do hope that goes well too. And I hope when Assange’s celebrity dies down, those helicopter riders will still support him.

I just doubt it.

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80 Comments

  1. Maybe Julian can recover some monies by setting up a franchise selling ‘celebrity double-strength condoms’?
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    “Wiki-not-leaks”

  2. Craig
    You should have arranged for John to pick you up from the station and take you. He loves a good party. Enjoy yourself and be interested to hear who was there..

  3. A useful summary of how, when it shows signs of becoming seriously effective, dissent is dealt with by the Establishment.
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    In spite of hosting a Cablegate mirror, I am somewhat ambivalent about Assange; but I have MAJOR problems with what Wikileaks proper has become. You only have to scan Wikileaks Central’s coverage of Libya to see that it is now part and parcel of the gamut of organisations and methodologies used to co-opt and neutralise effective dissent from the Left.
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    Agreed, Assange himself IS being stitched up; but Wikileaks in turn has itself become part and parcel of Frank Wisner’s “Mighty Wurlitzer”
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    Plus ca change

  4. Ah, just as well there’s a landing-strip. Now I can direct my pilot on precisely where to park my Lear. Oh, but wait, I’d better remove the orange jumpsuits from the cupboards, the bolts and chains from the floor…

  5. This could be the party from Hell. Don’t forget to take lots of Buckfast.

  6. Jonangus Mackay

    10 Jul, 2011 - 9:23 am

    At last. The opportunity to confront the guilty men: to seek face-to-face explanation as to why you were suddenly disinvited from the (shamelessly self-promotional) New Statesman/Frontline ‘Whistleblower’ Fest at Kensington Town Hall earlier this year.
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    First to tackle, I suggest, is the repellant upwardly-mobile NS editor Jason Cowley, who chaired the farrago in the most cack-handed, almost embarrassing, fashion.
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    Feel sure I’m by no means the only one of your fans eager to learn of Cowley’s response. I repeatedly sought explanation at the time from the Frontline Club, whose gopher seems to have done most of the phoning round; didn’t even get the courtesy of a summary reply. So much for Frontline’s commitment to openness. Not been to one of their events since.
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    Brother Julian is lucky to have found a refuge whose owner has deep pockets. Vaughan Smith’s first priority, however, is to promote his club & restaurant in Paddington. It is not, as his non-response to protests over your still-unexplained disinvitation sadly demonstrates, a commitment to freedom of information. Nor is it a commitment to the ultimate well-being of Assange. VS is politically naive rather than malign. JA needs to bear in mind that his host first entered photojournalism as a direct consequence of his being an officer in the Grenadier Guards. Lack of caution when accepting a Swedish accommodation offer is what landed Assange in this imbroglio in the first place.
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    Has Vaughan Smith at no point received an invitation for a discreet spot of lunch and a chinwag at the Travellers Club? If not, Her Majesty’s spookocracy would be failing, I suggest, in its perceived duty to the taxpayer. Due caution and, above all, what happened to JA in Sweden, requires that he should have politely checked this point with his generous host. Has he?
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    As for the early instruction of Buzzfuzz Stevens, veteran of the media rep company, it caused me astonishment when announced. At last he’s been replaced, after far too long, by the wonderful Gareth Pearce. I still imagine the inappropriate choice of Stevens was the consequence of an ill though-out knee-jerk response from JA’s then minder & adviser Gavin MacFadyen, who’ll also be there today.
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    Might I invoke the Wikipedia motto? Be bold!
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    One of the best opportunities in yonks to exercise your finest diplomatic skills.
    —-

  7. A useful summary of how, when it shows signs of becoming seriously effective, dissent is dealt with by the Establishment.
    3rd attempt to post this. I’ve removed one link this time to see if inclusion of more than one external link is the reason for appearing to have become persona non grata.

    In spite of hosting a Cablegate mirror, I am somewhat ambivalent about Assange and have major problems with what Wikileaks proper has become. You only have to scan Wikileaks Central’s to see that it is now part and parcel of the gamut of organisations and methodologies used to co-opt and neutralise effective dissent from the Left.

    Agreed, Assange himself IS being stitched up; but Wikileaks in turn has itself become part and parcel of Frank Wisner’s “Mighty Wurlitzer”

    Plus ca change

  8. Bingo.
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    Include more than one external link and your comment is blocked in spite of it incrementing the comment count.BTW – The 1st and 2nd paras of above comment should appear in reverse order.
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    [Mod: sorry, just found your other two comments in the moderation queue. Remove the aich tee tee pee colon slash slash to make a non-clickable link that doesn’t get queued]

  9. Sorry about this. That link issue really screwed things up.
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    The Wikileaks Central reference was to their recent Libyan coverage – though there is a lot of other evidence too. This was the link, which may be allowed now as the rule appears to be one per post:
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    coverage of Libya

  10. Jonangus Mackay

    10 Jul, 2011 - 10:15 am

    Just checked. Final edition of the Hackers’ & Bribers’ Gazette unaccountably fails to include a free sick bag.

  11. Glad you are standing by him Craig? Does John Pilger still support him? That would be my test.
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    Will Jemima Khan be there? She is said to be the half sister of Princess Diana after James Goldmith and her mother Frances Shand Kydd had an affair. Zac Goldsmith would then be her half brother. There is a likeness.
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    I suffered from that Wikispooks on the previous post. I think there are four or five that are ‘awaiting moderation’. Probably not important now but off putting nevertheless. If you write something it is necessary to give a link to confirm. One was about the close friendship of Blair and Brooks and their dinner engagements etc.
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    Craig mentions Al Jazeera. Suspect now because of unconfirmed reports of funding from a rich Egyptian Jew who supports Israel and Netanyahu. http://trueslant.com/nealungerleider/2009/10/08/al-jazeeras-new-owner-an-american-jew/
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    Finer Stephens (Mark Stephens) intimidated a friend who is a supporter of Palestine although the writ was not issued ultimately.

  12. Mary,
    The advice seems to be for more than one link leave out the {http://} or use {curley brackets} around subsequent links.
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    Craig’s post is indicative that a money driven society corrupts even the best of us. Changing that is a century away but lately I believe the ‘Mighty Wurlitzer’ is losing some of its chords, a good sign for the future.

  13. Jonangus,

    Yes, I precisely advised them – eight months ago – that hey had the wrong lawyers and must get Gareth Peirce. I also advised them, before the first rejected bail hearing and Julian’s spell in Wandsworth, that it was essential for the bail application to have a “normal” address and offered him to stay in Ramsgate.

  14. Weirdly enough, I did a strange christian channel chat show appearance with Zac Goldsmith and rather liked him. All of us are shaped by the accident of birth; but he’s a basically decent person underneath. I expect the same is true of Jemima.

  15. Indeed. May of those who are secure in their power are decent people – just as many as exist within the general population. The point, surely, is not their personal decency (or otherwise), but the structures which allow power and wealth to be amassed to an obscene degree and the wars and other forms of systemic oppression that are both instrument and outcome of that acquisitory process.

  16. To be fair, though, Craig, I have heard that Jemima, too is a very decent person. Mary, I hadn’t heard that rumour before! Hmn. There is a certain resemblance. Any links? I’ve just spent around 8 hours across two days watching Henry VI, Parts I and II and Richard III, performed outdoors, for free, in Glasgow’s Botanic Gardens – fabulous!! They kept saying things like (I paraphrase), “Thou excrescence of vile bastardy spawned!”. Among the aristocracy, nothing changes.

  17. Jonangus Mackay

    10 Jul, 2011 - 12:03 pm

    @Craig: re; Ramsgate:
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    On both sides of the Atlantic, a former sword-bearer is infinitely preferable to a loose cannon.
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    Not that I’m for a moment suggesting anything sinister in JA’s initial choice of refuge. It was, via Gavin MacFadyen, the logical one.
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    Just that the reliability of the no doubt well-intended Vaughan Smith, if subjected to covert pressure from above, should have been, as far as poss, checked from the start. I doubt very much that this has happened.
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    An added irony, as relevant watchers must have been quick to spot: the Frontline Club itself is just handy walking distance, should the need have arisen, from Britain’s most secure police station.

  18. Hi Craig, thanks for your writing. Always informational and interesting to read. With your experience I’m sure you don’t take much at face value but be careful when dealing with JA. To me, looking at the whole WL situation, JA and everything else going around in the world in terms of information warfare and perception management run by overbudgeted intelligence conglomerates, it looks like he is an operative himself.

  19. Oh yes, the lawyer situation. Well there could be other reasons for the choice of lawyer. One is that this particular lawyer was already directly or indirectly connected to the network of the WL operation since its beginning.

  20. Jonangus Mackay

    10 Jul, 2011 - 12:35 pm

    @Sunflower: I appreciate, as they say, where you may be coming from. ‘It looks like he may be an operative himself.’
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    In the politest possible way: bollocks.
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    Meanwhile, today’s real front page:
    http://www.ou1.com/53
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  21. Sunflower,
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    I admire your caution, you have the same apprehension as I did, some or many months ago. I started digging and I know some will accuse me of name dropping, yet it was only after talking to Annie Machon I realised that JA heads up the intelligence agency of the people.

  22. “In the politest possible way: bollocks.” Jonangus Mackay

    Now that was worthy of a line from Richard III (!)

  23. I did just that Mark and still got the ‘awaiting moderation’ messages.

    I was not casting nasturtiums on the Goldsmiths btw. Don’t know them or anything about them though the father was a ruthless type in his business dealings wasn’t he? Tina Brown (Harold Evans’ wife) started the talk on the Goldsmiths’ relationships. If you google ‘diana jemima zac’ several links come up, some on rather scurrilous looking sites but the photographic comparisons are interesting.

    Jemima Khan tweeted something about Kate’s hips being of the non-childbearing type which was very catty. She, her mother, Blair and Rosa Monckton were notable non-invitees to the Royal Wedding even though Rosa Monckton, wife of Dominic Lawson, was Diana’s best friend.

    Suhayl. Outdoor Shakespeare in Surrey costs between £14 and £18.50! http://www.ents24.com/web/event/The-Merchant-of-Venice-Guildford-College-of-Law-2464059.html?date=1310684400

  24. @Jonangus :)

    @Mark ” … I realised that JA heads up the intelligence agency of the people.”

    Yes, this would be the marketing strategy if this an intel operation. The key to such operation is to build trust. Not with the establishment but with those the criticise the same, i.e. the potential whistleblowers. Then depending on your specific plan and objectives you go about creating that trust. The whole charade that went on in Stockholm looks in the rear mirror (and actually when it happened as well) as staged theatre. The only _real_ outcome of the affair that went global in minutes, is that JA was established as the “Intelligence agency of the people”

    Now, that’s a position you would want to be in if you are a real spook.

    Thanks for Annie Machon’s name. I just had time to briefly look at her site. I’m curious to see what she writes about the 7/7 London blackop.

  25. Ah! Well, the ‘Bard in the Botanics’ series that’s on right now consists of plays under cover of tented walls-and-roof, for which one has to pay similar amounts as in Surrey, and plays outdoors, which are free. The latter are performed by undergraduate and postgraduate (so some really skilled actors, esp. in the latter group) students from the RSAMD (Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama) and the standard is really high. We got front-row seats, so right up against the invisible ‘fourth wall’ in a grassy dell, we were sitting a foot away from the foot of Edward IV and were within touching distance of Richard III’s hump and within (literally) spitting distance of Margaret of Anjou. I’ve always thought that a lot of aristo/ haute bourgeois English girls/young women look a little like Jemima, it’s an almost archetypal facies, you know?

  26. Craig: have nothing to do with these people. For all you know, what they are releasing is simply chaff seeded with lies any revelation that they may give is part of what Nixon called the process of ‘limited hangout’, admit to a lesser offence in order to get away with a greater one.

    As for Vaughan, isn’t he just some establishment creep?

  27. Well said Craig, this is the stictch up of the century in the making and Bradley Mannig, as well as Julian are the scapegoats.
    As always I’m offering my scout/bodyguard skills, should you want to pass by on the way for a quick cuppa. From Diss to Ditchingham is more ardous than from Norwich to Ditchingham, the number 388 Anglian Buses from Norwich Busstation will get you there,you get out on Ellingham corner and hang a left past the pub and onwards you can’t miss it. Anglian also operate a Diss to Bungay to Beccles 580 service which skirts past his Ellingham abode, it runs on a sunday.

    Enjoy your time and relay my best wishes, he is welcome here and you can give him my address. should he feel like an afternoon off it all.

  28. Oh yeah, I see what you mean about disreputable sites, Mary; they’re unhealthily obsessed with the ‘Jewish’ thing. Nonetheless, the photographic resemblances are quite striking. And, taking these websites at face value (just for a moment) but turning their modus operandum around to the positive, let’s extrapolate and say that in this scenario, Diana, by their account a sort of honorary Jewess, was possibly on the point of marrying a Muslim Arab (having also been close to a Muslim Pakistani). Now would that not have been truly magnificent, especially in our profoundly silly world of assorted dualistic lunacies? Whatever Diana’s own provenance, given her position as mother and guardian of a future king (and his second-in-line), one senses that such likely serious liaisons deeply troubled those who hold power in this country and who are, in essence, remain an emanation of empire. How deeply, we may not know until close to one hundred years have elapsed, precisely how deeply, we may never know.

  29. Jonangus Mackay

    10 Jul, 2011 - 1:32 pm

    @Mary:
    John Pilger’s support for JA is rock-solid, & likely to remain so into the foreseeable future.

  30. Craig,

    I did a case with Assange’s lawyer on the London side leading into the Privy Council.
    I am now in the European Court of Human Rights, on my own, for the client.
    When the case is over – I just might write about the machinations of the justice system.
    Don’t totally disagree with your assessment – don’t totally agree either.
    Cheers.

  31. A completely different take on David Leigh and the role of the Guardian – Israel Shamir in Counterpunch (who has written extensively about Wikileaks):

    “At that point, the data river forked. The treasure trove was copied by a Wikileaks German employee,Daniel Domscheit-Berg, who went AWOL after this appropriation. Domscheit-Bergmade a deal with David Leigh of the Guardian which then cold-shouldered Assange, declared the deal ‘void’, and shared the data with Bill Keller, editor of the NY Times. They published the cables after redacting them, or should we say “censoring” – removing everything the secret services demanded to remove.”

    http://www.counterpunch.org/shamir05042011.html

  32. Jonangus Mackay

    10 Jul, 2011 - 2:04 pm

    Jon Snow has just proudly tweeted this link to evidence of a key Murdoch whack:
    http://bit.ly/p1FNwe

  33. It appears the Guardian newspaper is much worse than ‘News of the Screws’ – I ask the question, why did David Leigh, the Guardian’s investigations executive editor, hide important information from its readers?
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    Because in doing so it was protected the British secret services from allegations of torture, tortures so vile they are beyond our comprehension. Torture to man suffering from mental health problems. That man is Abu Zubaydah — a Saudi-born Palestinian whose real name is Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Husayn. His story is here:
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    http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2010/04/06/abu-zubaydah-tortured-for-nothing/
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    Secret Service meddling, subservience to the priorities of the state has reached another new high – yet who dares to confront them – I dare, and I will win, the British public are on my side.
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    OBL, the fiendish gargoyle of the MI6 labs was made redundant by 9/11 and 7/7 – unravel these abominations will free ourselves from the State wall that surrounds us and imprisons us.

  34. “I also worry that they managed to fall out with David Leigh of the Guardian, for whom I have huge respect (which he has made plain to me is not mutual)”
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    Oh, goodness me! David Leigh merely turned up to say that your melodramatic characterization of his editor was, well, melodramatic. I think a good hint is that when the first thing that you can think of to criticize someone is “NEOCON!” or “ZIONIST!” then it might be worth revisiting your critical faculties otherwise you might just start to look like a knee-jerk loony.
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    I’m just saying…

  35. Ha ha!
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    http://angrysoba.blogspot.com/2011/07/spot-parody.html
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    By the way, I agree with you before for saying that one of the big issues here is the fact that what the NOTW were doing was illegal to begin with. One of the ex-editors was complaining that these latest stories would result in regulation etc… yet there were already LAWS against what they were doing!

  36. Angrysoba, are you claiming to have been present at a conversation between Craig and David Leigh, or to somehow otherwise have been party to their communication?

  37. Jonangus Mackay

    10 Jul, 2011 - 4:20 pm

    @headache
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    ‘Israel Shamir,’ particularly among active anti-Zionists, is thoroughly discredited. His real name isn’t even Israel Shamir. Many are baffled as to why Alex Cockburn & Counterpunch so much as give him the time of day.
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    Another instance of Assange’s lack of caution; to have touched Shamir with a bargepole. His association with this mysterious troll par excellence has been used by enemies to do JA & the cause of Wikileaks more damage than anything, other than the Swedish scandal itself.
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    See, for example, archive at:
    http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com (type Israel Shamir in search box)
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    & relevant back numbers of Private Eye.
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    Treat anything coming from Shamir with extreme caution.
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  38. @Jonangus Mackay

    Well, I find the articles of Shamir in Counterpunch in general well-documented and convincing.

    I don’t care what his real name is, or if he has a bad reputation. Why should I take what jewssansfrontieres says at face value?

    On the other hand, I am very willing to hear your refutation of his arguments!

  39. “Angrysoba, are you claiming to have been present at a conversation between Craig and David Leigh, or to somehow otherwise have been party to their communication?”
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    I am claiming nothing of the sort. Mr Murray wrote a blogpost a number of months ago in which he called the editor of the Guardian all kinds of names for some disagreement they had over a CiF post, IIRC. The names were something of the order of toady, lackey, stooge, neocon, Zionist – I don’t remember exactly but the type of word association you would expect from a very juvenile political debate…Oh, I’ve Googled around and found it now.
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    Craig said this about Alan Rusbridger: “The Guardian’s editor, disgraceful Blair catamite Alan Rusbridger is always up for military action to kill Muslims.”
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    To which David Leigh responded in the comments:
    “I don’t know why you attack Alan Rusbridger of the Guardian in this vile, personalised way. He is not, never was, a “Blair catamite” and a would-be bomber of Muslims. The opposite in fact. I suspect you know this, but are venting some personal spleen.”
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    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/03/on-civilian-casualties/

  40. Angrysoba,

    we exchannged emails too, but I think anyway what you posted shows simply that my point – that I esteem David Leigh, but he does not esteem me – is true. I made no comment on the rights and wrongs of the situation, so what are you arguing about? I generally enjoy your contrarianism, but this is just silly.

  41. The Rusbridgers went to dinner with Bliar at Chequers. Not a good idea if he didn’t want to compromise his impartiality. His wife is Lindsay Mackie great friend of Tessa Jowell. Wiki – ‘His wife is good friends with Tessa Jowell, whom she knew at the University of Edinburgh, and he is good friends with her estranged husband, David Mills.’ Enough said.
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    Saturday 14 October 2000
    Ms Hilary Armstrong MP
    Mr Paul Corrigan
    Mrs Val Davies
    Mr Dick Ferguson
    Mrs Ferguson
    Ms Anna Ford
    Mr Garry Hart
    The Rt Hon Lord Healey
    Lady Healey
    Ms Lindsay Mackie
    Mr Alan Rusbridger
    Mr David Scott

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-352804/The-list-The-Blairs-dinner-guests.html#ixzz1RjbKjPVS

  42. Wikispooks,
    I agree with you that Wikileaks Central is becoming the ‘part and parcel of the gamut of organisations and methodologies used to co-opt and neutralise effective dissent from the Left.’

    But I don’t agree that ‘Assange himself IS being stitched up’ Very often to produce the best effect a person may be charged, found guilty and sent to prison but after a very short period is let out the back door to enjoy his rewards.

  43. An example of the neutralisation of dissent Ruth. The Dowler family is being dragged up to No 10 to meet Clegg today Surely to display the caring side of the ConDems to thw wider public and not in any way from concern for them or to give them justice for their daughter. I hope their solicitor takes NI to the cleaners.
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    It was originally going to be Cameron but he is probably too busy publicising his Big Society proposals, ie the ending of the state as we know it.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14103895
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    This move to bring the Dowlers was an initiative of the Media Standards Trust, whose board is here. Note Middleton of Common Purpose. Also Otton, who apart from being a Surveillance Commissioner (Orwellian?) has connections to the World Bank, the FA and was a member of the judiciary. Goldman Sachs, the BBC, the Guardian and Rothschilds are all represented.
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    As I write, the journos are assembled and the media cameras are trained on the door from which the Dowler family will emerge shortly.
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    (http://mediastandardstrust.org/about/people/)

    These people infest our country and suck its heart blood.

    http://www.20essexst.com/member/philip-otton
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    I feel sick.

  44. An example of the neutralisation of dissent here Ruth. The Dowler family is being dragged up to No 10 to meet Clegg today Surely to display the caring side of the ConDems to thw wider public and not in any way from concern for them or to give them justice for their daughter. I hope their solicitor takes NI to the cleaners.
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    It was originally going to be Cameron but he is probably too busy publicising his Big Society proposals, ie the ending of the state as we know it.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14103895
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    This move to bring the Dowlers was an initiative of the Media Standards Trust, whose board is here. Note Middleton of Common Purpose. Also Otton, who apart from being a Surveillance Commissioner (Orwellian?) has connections to the World Bank, the FA and was a member of the judiciary. Goldman Sachs, the BBC, the Guardian and Rothschilds are all represented.
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    As I write, the journos are assembled and the media cameras are trained on the door from which the Dowler family will emerge shortly.
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    {http://mediastandardstrust.org/about/people/}
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    These people infest our country and suck its heart blood.
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    {http://www.20essexst.com/member/philip-otton}
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    I feel sick.

  45. Yes, re. Clegg, it’s disgusting – they are trying to apply the tactics of national soap opera to very important illegalities. This is not a matter of senior politicians saying sorry; this is a matter of criminality. It’s like Blair apologising to the families of the Guildford 4 – a publicity stunt. It’s all part of the weepy form of news management, it’s bullshit. Let the law take its course! Clegg will ‘apologise’, blah, blah, blah. I hope no-one is fooled.

  46. Off topic. For Mark a shocking report on what is happening to the orphans in Iraq. Blair’s and Bush’s and all the other f’ing war criminals’ legacy.

    http://www.uruknet.info/?p=79397
    ‘According to a 2008 figure, there are only 459 orphans in governmental houses of orphans, and around 4.5 million Iraqi orphans with 500,000 living in streets without any home or family care.’

  47. I see Bertie and Celia are also listed as guests of the Prime Minister.

    All now former: Taoiseach, Consort and Prime Minister.

    Plus ça change …

  48. Murdoch is backing Brooks to the hilt, one suspects, because Brooks is likely to know everything – and one suspects that there is far more than just this particular scandal, that it is an oil-tankerful of worms. If Murdoch cuts her loose, she might well throw the blame onto him. That’s good, the closer they are seen to be, the better – because it means that if – when – Brooks goes down, Murdoch ultimately also might go down (at least as far as the UK is concerned). It will take a systemic campaign, though and further revelations wrt the depth of institutional corruption in the UK. The whole scandal also demonstrates just how craven and deliberately compromised the public regulators have become – increasingly so, since Thatcher’s time when they became, ‘Off-this’ and ‘Off-that’ – stuffed with placemen and placewomen, more of the revolving-door syndrome which blights the financial sector and government in both the UK and the USA. Police corruption, too, it seems, is endemic and high level.

  49. Mary I can feel your wretching here and my throat is closing up at this sickening display.
    Will Clegg haul over the BBC for behaving like a despicable tabloid rag? in the interest of news, they say?

    To show, repeatedly and ad nauseum, the picture of the girl live, smiling, doing the ironing, alive and well, when the court made a specific point about the media rubbing it in before and during the trial, IS SICKENING. BBC, GET A HEART AND A LIVE!

    The direction of the BBC’s mojo, if there ever was such a thing, has turned to supping with the devil, lost souls at cross roads.
    The organgrinder we are paying to sing us the moritate, has his nuts permanently clamped so it seems, by the establishment’s fav news dividers, no wonder we can’t hear through his screeching falsetto’s, or cope with the monotony of his chatterin’.

    What of all this did the BBC know and held back? what are their connective tissues to NI, always portrayed as totally seperate enteties. Did anybody had any inclinations to look into Commander Yates sudden conversion to the manners of NI, was that just accepted or did they talk abouit it?

    Trust the BBC as far as I can hold them away with a bargepole, a healthy lenght away.

    That said, enjoy next week everyone, the flotilla’s on its way and who know’s what else might happen in the midle east, cyber space, cups of tea/coffee :)etc.
    Try and get in touch with your MP’s over this Wednesday’s vote on BSKYB, a posponement is the least we can epect from ‘dem rascals’.

  50. Please forgive my excessant typo’s I just have chastised myself for it, don’t ask how. I usually do not feel guilty about it, but sometimes it comes over me like a cloud of guilt…

    only to forget about it again, should I see someone?

    should off course read ‘talk about it’ and
    ‘the least we can expect’ in the last sentence.

  51. Try and bring back a decent bottle of bubbly..;see you on Saturday..

  52. 38 degree has started a letter to your MP campaign to ask MPs to vote against takeover, the more pressure , the better.

    http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/time-to-stand-up-to-murdoch

  53. It is too feeble Azra. I have written to them as follows:

    Dear 38 degrees

    I am afraid I do not agree with your proforma. It is not strong enough. Murdoch’s bid should be stopped completely and not postponed or put on hold.
    …….

    Have you seen Craig Murray’s posts on this News Internnational abomination?

    Best wishes

    Mary …….
    .
    and my note to my MP, for all the good it will do.
    .
    Dear…..

    I understand that there may be a vote on the takeover of BSkyB this Wednesday.

    I’d like you to vote to stop the takeover. FULL STOP.

    This is no time to reward Rupert Murdoch with even more power. Please can you assure me you will vote accordingly?

    Yours sincerely,

    mary …..

  54. Ingo you are dead right about the BBC hypocrisy. We have Ms Kuennesberg pontificating, a harpie from the city desk shouting that BSkyB shares are going down the pan and the studio woman telling us in stern tones that NI paid a royal protection officer for info on the royal family. Shock horror.

    Ref royal family. Wills/Kate’s last engagement in the US, followed breathlessly by Peter Hunt and Witchell, was some flag waving choreographed thus.
    .
    Their very last engagement was choreographed thus with the assistance of the creep Manning no doubt.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/11/article-2013306-0CF51AE800000578-352_964x532.jpg

    On stage with an enormous 60ft American flag in the background the Duke gave a speech.
    .
    The royal said: ‘This is the last event on our tour of North America, but to my mind, it is one of the most important.
    .
    ‘This is because it is about men and women who – of their own free will – choose to put their life on the line for their country.’
    .
    He added: “Service Nation Mission Serve, and all the companies and employers taking part today, are providing opportunities which mean something very immediate and personal to us.
    .
    ‘Catherine and I both have friends back in Britain who could benefit from a brilliant initiative like this.’
    .
    William made the audience laugh by taking a swipe at his brother Prince Harry: ‘I am delighted, therefore, that our Foundation – and in that I include my low-flying Apache very average brother – is a partner in today’s event.’
    .
    {http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013306/William-Kates-royal-visit-Subject-close-Princes-heart-The-royal-couple-finish-tour-emotional-visit-jobs-workshop-ex-servicemen.html#ixzz1RmCfOA4A}
    .
    The organisation running this US version of Help the Heroes is Mission Serve. Look them up.

  55. @Wikispooks – I too have a WL mirror, but it hasn’t been updated via their private key for months. Same appears to have happened to the vast majority of the volunteer mirrors around the globe, according to leakylinks.com before it went down. What’s the score here – is it just assumed that because the cables are out of the bag, there is no need to update all the mirrors? Seems a waste of a resource to me, tbh!

  56. Surely the intelligence services would know if somebody they were protecting had their details hacked. Also there’s evidence that strongly suggests the police knew the hacking was going on way before now.

    So then why did they let it continue? Because Murdoch is part of the Establishment? Because one day they could use it to their advantage i.e get rid of him when he became too powerful?

    I think the Establishment let the expenses scandal run and opened it up before the general election to put in more MPs with intelligence/Establishment ties.

  57. Yes, as the Independent’s editorial said today, one has to question whether Murdoch et al should be allowed to have ANY place in the UK media (not just wrt the BSkyB deal). News International has committed criminal acts directed from the highest level and has lied systematically (again at the highest level) to Parliament. I think their assets in the UK should be seized immediately as a crime scene and a matter of national security. One company owns nearly 40% of the UK media – this was wrong from the start (Thatcher did this). If a company controlling 40% of the UK media is criminal, it needs to be treated as would criminal syndicate – the Mafia, say. Seize the assets. THEN let the investigations proceed apace.

  58. Yes, Ruth, I agree that the Expenses scandal was unleashed at the specific time and for specific purposes. It smelled very like an I-op. The aim was to divert public wroth away from the financial institutions/bankers and to warn Parliament against really taking action to re-regulate these institutions.

    Re. the NI scandal, clearly, there is a lot we do not know as yet; I think it’ll run for a while. Like you, I have lots of questions. I do still wonder about turf wars b/w various elements within the imperial elite. The NI scandal weakens the PM and reduces his dependence on NI. Nick Davies’s investigation was the immediate trigger at this point for the ‘Big Bang’ expansion of the NI scandal. MI5 seems to be keeping a low profile (is that not their normative position?!). It wouldn;t be the first time a media mogul had come up against an intel. service and lost – Maxwell and MOSSAD come to mind; different dynamic here, though. Perhaps this is one part of the Establishment reducing the growing and disproportionate power of another, for fear of NI usurping too much of MI5’s power and remit? MI5 would wish to monopolise blackmail opportunities vis a vis MPs, senior police and other public figures. Having NI in that dirty arena is competition they don’t want. I wonder… This is why I mentioned Hoover and Nixon, and Special Branch and MI5 in N. Ireland, as examples of turf wars.

  59. Weakens the PM but increases, proportionately, his dependence on the goodwill of the MIs.

  60. I don’t think it’s a turf war. It’s a massive operation by the intelligence services to destroy Murdoch and gain control of his media empire. People who the intelligence services have criminalised and spent years hounding have been brought to the fore as scapegoats.

  61. Hullo Craig,

    Julian Assange’s party has directions for lear jet owners does it? Ha ha ha ha. And Ellingham Hall is it? Such genteel luxury.

    There’s only one thing for it and that’s to declare that there is a God. I say that because the prospect of a man ostensibly topping the PTB’s fear and loathing list who is simultaneously caressed by the rich and powerful would otherwise have to be described as an out-and-out impossibility. But here he is! He exists!

    Honestly mate, are you not struck by the absurdity of this? Since when did those who oppose the government roll in such dough and live such deluxe jetset lifestyles? Here’s the cold hard truth: Any party that caters to the owners of private jets is a party at the pointiest end of the pyramid of power. That’s all there is to it and everything else is bullshit.

    Best I can make out, you seem to think that a disinfo spook who can appear credible is some variety of oxymoron. The truth is, it’s the precise opposite – a disinfo spook without credibility is no such thing. And Assange can walk and chew crudités at the same time can he? Wow.

    But what a party pooper I am. You should definitely go live it up with the lear jet owners as they toast their darling celebrity rebel. And do tell us what it is they toast him with: I’m betting Dom or Krug.

    best regards,

    n

  62. Thank-you Mary – yes this report from Al Arabiya who sent me many reports from March 2004 in Arabic from Iraq and recommended doctorsforiraq for the truth behind children’s deaths and mutilations from US cluster bombs and phosphorus instead of English propaganda. Dina Al-Shibeeb is a new correspondent. In 2005 ‘Uruknet’ reported the Americans depopulated three villages West of Baghdad putting over 600 babies and children in tents in fields in the cold (esp. at night) then bulldozed dozens of groves and farm fields in the villages, and turned the homes and schools in the villages into billets and military camps for themselves, in a move reminiscent of the practices followed by the Zionist occupation in Palestine.

  63. Nobody, you can take a ride in my Lear anytime! It’s an Airfix model, but… Just avoid the chains and bolts, the water-boards and orange jumpsuits lying around – it’s a kind of CIA version of S ‘n’ M. More S than M, knowhatamean?. Why don’t we all gatecrash the Assange party, arriving on a giant old-style bright-red London bus, like sort of Cliff and the Shadows in Summer Holiday…? Watch out, Sir Julian, the plebs are coming!

    “People who the intelligence services have criminalised and spent years hounding have been brought to the fore as scapegoats.” Ruth. Interesting thesis, Ruth. Who, precisely? Are you saying that Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson et al were hounded for years by MI5? Please explain. Thanks.

  64. It’s a real pleasure to read the posts here, thanks all.

  65. Craig, I think your emails may not have been in vain. From the Guardian blog today:
    .
    “The changes to his legal team – Gareth Peirce replaces media lawyer Mark Stephens and Ben Emmerson replaces Geoffrey Robertson QC – are thought to be part of a more conciliatory approach by Assange.”

  66. Ruth

    I am now thinking along the same lines as you, what is behind it is the question?.

  67. Jonangus Mackay

    12 Jul, 2011 - 12:49 pm

    Dear, dear, Craig. We’re still waiting:-) We’re expecting an exclusive. Did you extract an explanation for your scandalous disinvitation from the ‘Whistleblower’ Fest? Did you manage to tackle Cowley? An eager public waits.

  68. I wonder if there is any connection between all this and Robert Maxwell?.

  69. Jonangus Mackay

    12 Jul, 2011 - 2:48 pm

    Apart from the obvious family resemblance:
    .
    A stand-up comic friend of mine pointed out yesterday (he was being serious) that when, in the late 80s, Cap’n Bob (£2 billion adrift) was found bobbin’, Murdoch was himself £3 billion adrift.
    .
    Soon after, however, the News Corp Corleone became solvent.
    .
    Think his chronology may be a bit out. Seems a wild juxtaposition to me. But you did ask.
    .

  70. Scouse Billy

    12 Jul, 2011 - 4:55 pm

    Wikispooks,

    Along with Ruth, Nobody, and, no doubt, Courtney B. you see through Assange.

    Craig, check this interview out – what are the chances Mr Murdoch will splash this in September, if our leaders (sic) aren’t careful?

    http://www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=65&part=1

    Never mind the richplanet spaceship provenance – the tribunal will be held in public: Sheffield, 6-8th Sept…

  71. Jonangus Mackay

    12 Jul, 2011 - 8:51 pm

    Of the inevitably absent guest:
    .
    ‘We are walking into a connected world.’
    .
    After the first few minutes, more seasoned Wikileaks buffs may prefer to skip to 30 mins in:
    .
    http://democracynow.org/stories/11995
    .

  72. Jonangus Mackay

    12 Jul, 2011 - 9:03 pm

    Above broken link fixed: http://tinyurl.com/5twxmhw

  73. Suhayl,

    One of the guys is Barry Beardall. I understand that he worked with the Sunday Times for 5 years and I believe that he knows some things that are highly sensitive.

    Beardall was convicted of conspiracy to contravene Section 170(2) of the Customs and Excise Management Act 1979 in 2001. Beardall claimed entrapment in his trial. During both his trial and appeal there were serious failures by the prosecution to make disclosure particularly in relation to the principal of the fraud, who was described in the Costello Affidavit as working for the National Investigation Service of Customs & Excise. During Beardall’s appeal the investigation into the Affidavit by the Metropolitan Police was flawed. Moreover, the investigation into the Affidavit on behalf of Beardall’s defence team was allegedly conducted by an informant using the pseudonym “Joe Poulton”, who is said to be a retired Scotland Yard detective recruited by the Complaints Investigation Branch (CIB3).

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/met-chiefs-secret-squad-used-illegal-informant-847471.html

    Beardall has suffered repeated threats and intimidation, burglaries and even theft of his car during which pertinent documents from unused trial evidence and documents found subsequent to his appeal were removed.

  74. Mary said,
    “Craig mentions Al Jazeera. Suspect now because of unconfirmed reports of funding from a rich Egyptian Jew who supports Israel and Netanyahu.”

    Uh, Mary, the link you provide is two years old and it didn’t happen.
    Repeat, it didn’t happen.

    You don’t have to worry, a Jew doesn’t own Al-Jazeera.

    Al-Jazeera remains as it always has, a tool of the Qatari government.

    But coming back to this webpage, well, I haven’t seen so many comments about Jews since David Duke’s website.

  75. from media lens
    More impartial coverage in the Guardian
    Posted by kennyg on July 13, 2011, 2:13 pm

    Julian Assange extradition appeal hearing – day two live coverage

    Robert Booth at the high court and Paul Owen at the Guardian office bring you full coverage of the second day of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s battle to avoid being sent to Sweden to face rape and sexual assault allegations

    9.31am “John Pilger, the campaigning leftwing journalist and Assange ally, got a round of applause as he arrived at the court this morning. He did not look amused at his role as warm-up act.”
    :::::
    PS JustPassing above exaggerates greatly. Was that a Hasbara calling card incidentally?

  76. @JustPassing – contrary to your suggestion, anti-Jewish comments here are rare. All the mentions above hardly qualify in any case. Do join into the debate though – the funding of any news source, including Al Jazeera, is surely worthy of discussion!

  77. @ScouseBilly – Assange as secret services operative? I don’t buy it – didn’t when that idea first surfaced, still don’t. Too many layers of an onion for it to be plausible, in my view. I think you credit TPTB with too much intelligence.
    .
    He does *look* like an evil agent though, which may be why the idea has caught on with fans of conspiracy. Well groomed, crop of silver hair, high levels of intelligence, careful with words – all he needs is a lair and a cat to stroke. And an evil laugh, of course – he should watch an Austin Powers movie to brush up!
    .
    Not seen the website you cite before, but this (http://www.richplanet.net/detail.php?dbindex=209) is full of assumption and unsubstantiated suspicion. Not a great reference at all, imo. I should say though that I am an open sceptic generally, though :)

  78. As many others I would very much enjoy Craig’s debriefing of the party… :)

  79. Wow, that’s fascinating, Ruth. Murky, complex waters, indeed. So what d’you think Beardall might have known/ might know? What kind of thing, I mean? And what will be the mechanism by which the Intelligence Services will take over Murdoch’s empire? Forgive me, I’m just trying to find my way through here; you obviously know a heck of a lot more about this kind of material than I, so please just imagine for a moment that I’m an idiot (no comments on that, please!); you know, I’m just a basic ‘Lobster’ reader! Thanks.

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