Whiteman is the Villain: May is Lazy and Callous

by craig on November 15, 2011 4:29 pm in Uncategorized

Today’s televised select committee proceedings showed us clearly what had happened in the UK Border Agency. It is typical of what is happening throughout the Civil Service. A massively overpaid “Chief Executive”, Rob Whiteman, is parachuted in on £240,000 a year. He has never had a day’s experience as an immigration officer in his life.

He is placed over Brodie Clark, a man with over 30 years experience, who is head of the Border Force. Whiteman needs to stamp his authority on a force which probably at many levels resents a total outsider being brought in. Was Whiteman, of Barking and Dagenham local council, really that much more capable than all of the thousands of existing Border Force people who actually knows the work? Absolutely anybody could predict Whiteman’s next move – he gets rid of Clark.

He does it by conflating two things. The longstanding fact that at peak times border controls have to be relaxed or airports would overflow in sewerage and planes drop off the sky. And a targeted pilot scheme, that sounds rather sensible, to relax certain controls on certain people to allow better targeting.

Getting rid of Clark necessitates exaggerating the problems, something which an immigrant demonising media is ready to help with. But this causes problems for May as Home Secretary. Not caring about anything but her own career, she reacts by heaping huge loads of manure on Clark’s head.

Whiteman managed, in appearing before a select committee today, to come across as even more horrible than the Murdochs. That you and I are paying his huge salary is appalling. Almost appalling is that the “independent investigation” into what happened is being conducted by John Vine, who was a party to the decision to sack Clark, and a party to some of the correspondence and minutes which Whiteman refused to give the Select Commitee because he was giving it to Vine’s investigation.

Read that last sentence again. Yes, incredible but true. Yet another new low for government whitewash?

This thing stinks.

77 Comments

  1. Arsalan

    15 Nov, 2011 - 4:43 pm

    Craig, been it, done it, bought the Tshirt.
    It is called the Whiteman’s burden.
    People from the collonies know it all to well, having a whiteman with no knowledge or experence put over them with a much higher salery.

  2. Scouse Billy

    15 Nov, 2011 - 4:50 pm

    It seems there is a glass ceiling in this country – for the competent, honest and selfless.

  3. Mary

    15 Nov, 2011 - 4:57 pm

    Lorraine Fulbrook was one of those CONs giving Mr. Clark a hard time and attempting to discredit him. I see that Michael Hintze of Fox Werrity fame is named as a donor on her TWFY register of interests. Her own website tells us that ‘Lorraine also served as a Member of the British-American Parliamentary Group Executive Committee from 2010-2011 and remains a member of the Group. Lorraine is a supporter of the Centre for Social Justice and is also a fellow of the Royal Society of Arts.’ What is the British American Parliamentary Group Executive Committee and is Fox also a member? At one stage she was indulging in amateur dramatics this morning by shaking her head in disbelief at Mr. Clark’s evidence.

    .
    Joining with her in holding the line for St Theresa were James Clappison, Vice Chairman of the CFoI and a barrister, and Michael Ellis, also a barrister. The latter’s questioning was particularly aggressive but Mr. Clark, who looks very strained, stood up well.

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    I am with Brodie.
    .
    May avoided the HoC today as I said earlier. She had a prior engagement at the National Security Council. Probably discussing Rapier missiles for the next Berlin style Olympics being held at Stratford next year.
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    Waiting to see young Chloe Smith reply to the debate on fuel prices!!

  4. Richard

    15 Nov, 2011 - 5:00 pm

    Having worked in the public service throughout the Blair era, I recognise the syndrome intimately: the belief that Management and Leadership will sort out the Public Services, and that public servants will only be motivated by fear and insecurity, and the only sort of achievement that can be seen in their work is the hitting of arbitrary, and largely distracting and irrelevant, ‘targets’ that mimic market forces.

  5. Mary

    15 Nov, 2011 - 5:01 pm

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/publicservicesawards/judge-rob-whiteman
    You can see the type. Always in the right time at the right place, oh and knows the right people.

  6. Richard

    15 Nov, 2011 - 5:05 pm

    It would surely be too much paranoia/conspiricy/obsessive to wonder if Mr. Whiteman was put in charge of Immigration just because of his name. Naaaah…but any standup comedians reading this can have that one free.

  7. Abe Rene

    15 Nov, 2011 - 5:07 pm

    Whiteman speak with forked tongue – Old Indian Comic Book Saying

  8. Billy Gotta-Job

    15 Nov, 2011 - 5:08 pm

    I thought my piece (http://billynojob.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/kicking-the-cat-theresa-may-follows-in-the-ignominious-footsteps-of-ed-balls/)was vicious enough, but yours has surpassed it! Interesting that whilst I’ve got May as my main target, you’ve got Whiteman. But the latter is surely the tool of the former.

  9. Mary

    15 Nov, 2011 - 5:10 pm

    I see Vine ex CC Tayside gets £190,000 pa (plus a police pension as well??)
    .
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Independent_Chief_Inspector_of_the_UK_Border_Agency

  10. Scouse Billy

    15 Nov, 2011 - 5:28 pm

    Craig, interesingly this piece is ranked No 2 on newsnow.co.uk in Hot Topics/UK Botder Agency Inquiry but your piece on Gould wasn’t linked to at all in Hot Topics/Fox Resignation – Hot Topics ignores Hot Potatoes you might say.
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    http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Hot+Topics/UK+Border+Agency+Inquiry

  11. No-Wobbles

    15 Nov, 2011 - 5:46 pm

    Excellent analysis, Craig. The ghastly Whiteman is just so typical of the breed now infesting the upper reaches of local government, from where he emanated.

  12. Jack

    15 Nov, 2011 - 5:48 pm

    I know I keep quoting Yeats, but it just seems so damned relevant these day…
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    For how can you compete,
    Being honour bred, with one
    Who, were it proved he lies,
    Were neither shamed in his own
    Nor in his neighbours’ eyes?

  13. OldMark

    15 Nov, 2011 - 5:54 pm

    Yes, this episode stinks to high heaven- I hope Clark is instrumental in terminating May’s career, and that of the opportunistic careerist slug who was parachuted in over his head.

    ‘Rob is a well known commentator and writer on a wide range of areas such as leadership, partnership working, modernisation and building community cohesion. Local Government Chronicle (LGC) named him as one of the ten most influential people in local government’.

    Says it all really- Whiteman’s main area of expertise is in spouting modish, meaningless verbiage. Is he a Common Purpose ‘graduate’ by any chance ? They are the ones who tend to move into the areas that the old guard careerists ‘on the square’ vacate as they retire. The same dross in different camoflage.

  14. Jack

    15 Nov, 2011 - 6:01 pm

    @Richard…
    “Having worked in the public service throughout the Blair era, I recognise the syndrome intimately: the belief that Management and Leadership will sort out the Public Services, and that public servants will only be motivated by fear and insecurity…”
    .
    I have a similar history, on the wrong end of management by dictat, bullying and unashamed buck-passing. The end result was always that we lost our best people first (who found it relatively easy to move on) and were left with the rest – usually yes-men and no-hopers to a man. ‘Man’ here being gender-unspecific – if they weren’t all males, then not all of the males were men in my estimation anyway.
    .
    So public questions like “Surely it belies coincidence that they’re ALL be as bad as each other?” could only be met with the answer that not only was it not coincidence – it was policy!

  15. Scouse Billy

    15 Nov, 2011 - 6:05 pm

    Old Mark, as I read that self-congratulatory drivel, I had exactly he same thought – Common Purpose = EU-Nazi 5th columnist traitors courtesy of Prescott.

  16. Mary

    15 Nov, 2011 - 6:06 pm

    Yes Old Mark I wondered about that too and looked earlier. He is on a long list on one of those forums as a CP attendee.

  17. Rob (no not him)

    15 Nov, 2011 - 6:08 pm

    When this farce first blew up last week I’m sure I saw a reference to stats which showed (or purported to show) that during the period of the trial, *more* people were stopped and held than normal. Now I neither remember where I saw them nor can I find them again. Certainly any discussion of actual *evidence* of effectiveness is nowhere. Did I dream it? Ring any bells with anyone?

  18. Mary

    15 Nov, 2011 - 6:13 pm

    Usual bilge. He even had a diary secretary and a PA.
    http://www.idea.gov.uk/idk/core/page.do?pageId=22493081
    .
    IDEA was the forerunner of the Local Government Improvement Service

  19. Mary

    15 Nov, 2011 - 6:20 pm

    Sorry I have got lost in the welter of acronyms surrounding this junk. Presume Local Government Improvement and Development is Pickles’ remit now.
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    http://www.idea.gov.uk/idk/core/page.do?pageId=1700140
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    So efficient that they still have Whiteman as their MD

  20. Boo

    15 Nov, 2011 - 6:35 pm

    Craig – perhaps its a little obvious but wasn’t it strange that Sir Phillip Mawer, who as I understand is still on a 30k retainer in order to remain available to the government, was not asked to investigate Fox/Werrity? He is, after all, the independent adviser on ministerial interests.

    It is not customarily the responsibility of the Cabinet Secretary to investigate breaches of the ministerial code nor to ensure it is upheld – that is the job of the Prime Minister.

    Oh, and Frank Gardiner is reporting on Iran under ‘covert attack’ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15741989

  21. Mary

    15 Nov, 2011 - 6:55 pm

    Chloe Smith nervy and giving a performance worthy of a sixrth form debate.

  22. mike cobley

    15 Nov, 2011 - 6:56 pm

    Hmm, Common Purpose – interesting crowd, which has a hankering for ‘leading beyond authority’. See here –
    .
    http://www.commonpurpose.org.uk/about/leading-beyond-authority
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    Encouraging egomania? Surely not…

  23. ingo

    15 Nov, 2011 - 6:57 pm

    I can see this story in the context of the next big terror flagration, surface to air missiles and army deployed at the Olympics, it will all slot together nicely.

    Theresa the Lazy said that ‘it is impossible to know who came into Britain’ under her relaxed regime, so lets assume that ‘they are already here’, one step removed from a false flag attack and mayhem at the Olympics.

    I hope that Brodie lets slip a few more of their policy own goals relating to relaxed direct access for Saudi terror backers, coming here ‘shopping’ in Oxford street, that should give white man something to think about. He is in charge of the sieve this country has become under the CONDEMS.

  24. Mary

    15 Nov, 2011 - 7:01 pm

    Yes Ingo who or what has come in on the private planes and who and what has gone out. The place is wide open. It’s a bit like the 60s and 70s when we were promised a passport free and borderless europe or even world.

  25. Arsalan

    15 Nov, 2011 - 7:18 pm

    Who remembers that film, “white men can’t jump”?
    If true, this guy isn’t going to jump ship and resign?

  26. Jonangus Mackay

    15 Nov, 2011 - 9:02 pm

    Just added parachuted-in boss of the UK Border Agency to the appropriate Wikipedia entry. In most fictional contexts his name would have rendered him implausible. This being the real world, however, the reverse was the case. Sadly for other candidates, as soon as he submitted his application it was very much game over:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_determinism

  27. John Goss

    16 Nov, 2011 - 12:08 am

    After a bottle of cheap Cabernet Veneto I can claim without any fear of contradiction that Theresa May is a born liar. Tomorrow morning I will claim the same thing. To my knowledge Brodie Clark is an honest man – I have heard nothing to the contrary. Let it not be forgotten that Theresa May had a clear agenda at the Conservative Party Conference to repatriate as many asylum-seekers as was possible in her watch to whatever repressive regimes (the Malyshevs are a prime example of how quickly she got into action) and she backed her proposal with a blatant lie “I kid you not” that an asylum-seeker was allowed to stay in this country because he had a cat. She is a liar, absolutely and unequivocably. And as Craig says, Whitman, on a massive salary has replaced the honest man with 30 years of service. Theresa May has not had 2 years of service before she is found out to be what she is – a natural born liar.

  28. Mary

    16 Nov, 2011 - 12:27 am

    38 years John including 15 years in senior management.
    .
    I came in tonight and saw that Paxman and Richard Watson were discussing the matter on Newsnight. ‘I think she’ll stay’, says Watson. ‘Clark will have a problem as he did not notify May that he was abandoning the fingerprint checks.’ blah blah. So case closed. The state broadcaster’s chief stooge and another have spoken.

  29. curious

    16 Nov, 2011 - 1:37 am

    A little point no one seems to have asked: what will happen during the Olympics, if gay bonny lot of foreigners decide to come over here? Apart from the awaiting missiles threatening to shoot the planes that carried these to our Sacred Shores, will the border agency be busy processing these by the end of which it will be time for them to broad their planes if these are still in one piece, and fly back to whence they came from?
    ,
    Beijing Olympics was a spectacle for the world to behold, will the London Olympics be an all mighty fuck up for the world to know who they ought not to mess with?

  30. Jives

    16 Nov, 2011 - 1:46 am

    @ Mary.

    “Yes Ingo who or what has come in on the private planes and who and what has gone out.”

    Who or what indeed.
    Probably a lot of CIA extraordinary rendition planes have come in and alot of innocent people have simply disappeared.

    Bastards.

  31. Jives

    16 Nov, 2011 - 1:49 am

    The US Feds complaining they wont have enough “officers” on the ground come the Olympics?

    I don’t doubt that they’re unhappy.It’ll take alot of officers to really ensure their false flag ops go like clockwork.

  32. Jives

    16 Nov, 2011 - 1:58 am

    This Whiteman person sounds like a very nasty slug indeed.

    They way he shat all over Clark was nauseating.Clark was the only individual who has emerged in a plausible and dignified light in all of this.

    I’ve known the whiteman type all my life and loathe them.

    Yep he sounds exactly the Common Purpose type.Networking and toadying their only real skills,and shafting anyone who get in their way. I bet Whiteman specialises in “blue-sky thinking”,”solution led solutions in a challenging global market dynamic”.He will always “boil the frog” and considers himself “the fat man in the canoe” in an insanely vain manner.
    At the Xmas party he gets leery with anything in a skirt,sings Agadoo,vomits BEFORE going for a massive 4 course curry with his other Masonic brothers,and then sings gaudy bigoted songs on his slalomly unstately way home.

    His taxi is alwas on expenses,too,i’ve no doubt.

    Scum.

  33. Anders

    16 Nov, 2011 - 2:00 am

    Oh, and Frank Gardiner is reporting on Iran under ‘covert attack’ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15741989
    =======
    Total spook. Tom Mangold, ditto, after his Diana performances…

  34. curious

    16 Nov, 2011 - 2:05 am

    Anders,
    Tom Mangold, was he not also the “close friend of Dr. Kelly”?

  35. curious

    16 Nov, 2011 - 2:18 am

    Anders,
    The Saudi monarch used the poetic language of the Nejdi desert, urging Washington to “cut off the head of the snake”.
    Evidently Frank left his brains in Saudi as well as his mobility! The same “poetic” crap was said about Saddam.
    Alas Saddam had nothing to fight back with, and US nearly got whooped, and needed Putin to go on the telly and give moral support; “US cannot be defeated at this stage, it is not good for the world”.
    These wankers are insane, why are they not wearing their long armed jackets?

  36. Frazer

    16 Nov, 2011 - 6:54 am

    Coming back recently from NYC to LHR it took me about an hour and a half to get through Immigration in London and I have a British passport. So much for open borders methinks.
    Only 6 UKBF officers on duty for what looked like at least three planes of passengers and then I was told to go to the automatic scanner line where I waited with a phalanx of grumbling Europeans for s poxy machine to scan my passport which it had to do four times.
    There was a group of Asian gentlemen on the same flight as me and thay had already cleared Immigration and were on thier way out just as I got to the carosel.
    At least in the USA they are a lot more professional and the TSA are trained to be polite when they are asking you about your trip to the US. No wonder I am emigrating.

  37. Mary

    16 Nov, 2011 - 8:19 am

    St Theresa is seeing more **** hitting the fan this morning. Sir Michael Scholar enters the scene on the accuracy of the drugs seizure statistics and I see we have Sir Gus looking for any candidates who smeared Brodie.
    .
    I think she should have stuck to running the local village fêtes and conservative party fund raising. She would have been good at that.
    .
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/another-fine-mess-for-the-home-secretary-6262790.html

  38. haggar lucifer papanefertitissen mcgrath

    16 Nov, 2011 - 8:41 am

    nobody actually wants the fucking olympics. nobody wanted the fucking millenium dome. nobody wants cameron and clegg. nobody wanted blair and broon. if that’s democracy give me the other one.

  39. Arsalan

    16 Nov, 2011 - 8:56 am

    Who remembers the Cowboys and Indians films, when we were kids?

    Me and my cousins always rooted for the Indians.
    We saw the the Whiteman as the villain.
    And right now, I see this white man as the villain against the Indians he stops entering this country.
    These Indians come here to work, while the white man went to their country to invade, colonise, loot, pillage and enslave.

    You don’t get many ‘Indians’ coming here from the Americas, because the White man went over there to do the above as well as genocide. Not many ‘Indians’ left alive there to come here for Whiteman in the border agency to refuse them enter and deport them back to the country that the white man stole from them.

  40. Mary

    16 Nov, 2011 - 9:11 am

    A proposal from Hague to enhance the power of our secret state. Note the three uses of the word ‘alleged’ aat the beginning of the ZBC report.
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15750731
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    Hague ‘to back intelligence court limitation plan’ Foreign Secretary William Hague is responsible for the Secret Intelligence Service, MI6 and GCHQ Continue reading the main story
    .
    Related Stories
    ‘Spy’ committee calls for reforms
    Changing shape of UK foreign policy
    Spotting future spies in schools
    .
    Foreign Secretary William Hague is expected to back plans to restrict what can be said about the security services in open court.
    .
    Sensitive national security information would be heard in closed courts under the plans, which have been criticised by campaigners.
    .
    In a speech later, he will also commit to “drawing a line” under the alleged involvement of UK agents in torture.
    .
    Claims of the UK’s alleged torture role have emerged in civil court cases.
    .
    Last year UK resident Binyam Mohamed, who was held in Guantanamo Bay, won his bid to disclose secret information relating to his alleged torture.
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    Mr Mohamed said the UK authorities knew he was tortured at the behest of US authorities after his detention in Pakistan in 2002.
    .
    /…

  41. John Goss

    16 Nov, 2011 - 9:48 am

    “May is lazy and callous” and a natural born liar!

  42. larry Levin

    16 Nov, 2011 - 10:06 am

    This feels like its from the book 1984, the party members and the rest of us.

  43. Komodo

    16 Nov, 2011 - 10:20 am

  44. Anders

    16 Nov, 2011 - 11:24 am

    Anders,
    Tom Mangold, was he not also the “close friend of Dr. Kelky

    Yes, according to that “friend of Israel” (Mossad) Mangold and Kelly were once conjoined twins…

  45. Komodo

    16 Nov, 2011 - 11:45 am

    Reminiscences of Old Barkingian:
    Tony Morris TGWU Convenor at Barking & Dagenham said, “Rob Whiteman, Chief Executive, has managed to earn himself a bad reputation among council staff wherever he has worked. At his old job in Lewisham before moving to Barking & Dagenham Council he was called ‘the jolly bastard’. His current staffs have christened him ‘Sir Humphrey Sponge Bob’.” [A reference to the popular Yes Minister TV character and the kids cartoon character Sponge Bob Smarty Pants].
    http://www.labournet.net/ukunion/0505/barking2.html
    .
    No doubt greasing his superiors and shitting on his subordinates played some part in inviting this comment.

  46. Mary

    16 Nov, 2011 - 11:53 am

    What a good writer Chris Hedges. His father was a pastor so he obviously picked up the biblical cadences you can hear in this piece.
    .
    This Is What Revolution Looks Like
    http://www.truth-out.org/what-revolution-looks/1321384587
    .
    …Our elites have exposed their hand. They have nothing to offer.
    .
    They can destroy but they cannot build. They can repress but they cannot lead. They can steal but they cannot share. They can talk but they cannot speak. They are as dead and useless to us as the water-soaked books, tents, sleeping bags, suitcases, food boxes and clothes that were tossed by sanitation workers Tuesday morning into garbage trucks in New York City. They have no ideas, no plans and no vision for the future.
    .
    Our decaying corporate regime has strutted in Portland, Oakland and New York with their baton-wielding cops into a fool’s paradise. They think they can clean up “the mess”—always employing the language of personal hygiene and public security — by making us disappear. They think we will all go home and accept their corporate nation, a nation where crime and government policy have become indistinguishable, where nothing in America, including the ordinary citizen, is deemed by those in power worth protecting or preserving, where corporate oligarchs awash in hundreds of millions of dollars are permitted to loot and pillage the last shreds of collective wealth, human capital and natural resources, a nation where the poor do not eat and workers do not work, a nation where the sick die and children go hungry, a nation where the consent of the governed and the voice of the people is a cruel joke.
    .
    Get back into your cages, they are telling us. Return to watching the lies, absurdities, trivia and celebrity gossip we feed you in 24-hour cycles on television. Invest your emotional energy in the vast system of popular entertainment. Run up your credit card debt. Pay your loans. Be thankful for the scraps we toss. Chant back to us our phrases about democracy, greatness and freedom. Vote in our rigged political theater. Send your young men and women to fight and die in useless, unwinnable wars that provide corporations with huge profits. Stand by mutely as our bipartisan congressional super committee, either through consensus or cynical dysfunction, plunges you into a society without basic social services including unemployment benefits. Pay for the crimes of Wall Street.
    .
    /….

  47. Julia

    16 Nov, 2011 - 11:57 am

    innocent muslims are being tortured and forced to confess to fabricated charges in Uzbekistan. Don’t make war with Iran, help get uzbeks rid off the karimov regime!

    http://www.uznews.net/news_single.php?lng=en&sub=hot&cid=3&nid=18379

  48. Mary

    16 Nov, 2011 - 12:14 pm

    You’re a tiger on the internet Komodo. Has Sponge Bob got thick glasses and a lot of face fungus? (:)

  49. Mary

    16 Nov, 2011 - 12:17 pm

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  50. Mark Golding - Children of Iraq

    16 Nov, 2011 - 12:29 pm

    I to witnessed the attempted verbal assassination of Brodie Clark and it reminded me of the third degree given to Dr David Kelly PBUH by the Foreign Affairs Committee. Like David, Brodie was grilled as to who had given him authority to exercise his own judgement.
    .
    The stench of conspiracy was obvious. I am also with Brodie.
    .
    May is incompetent, an austerity witch and homophobic to boot – hang her out to dry before she resigns!

  51. Mary

    16 Nov, 2011 - 12:39 pm

    Fascists take the helm.
    .
    BREAKING NEWS:Italy’s new PM Mario Monti says he has formed a new government and will himself be in charge of the economy
    .
    Strangely in the same land where it originated.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Fascism

  52. Mark Golding - Children of Iraq

    16 Nov, 2011 - 1:32 pm

    Spot on Mary, Monti was a former adviser to Goldman Sachs Group Inc.
    .
    Time to remember the words of Bettino Craxi who in 1992, told parliament that everybody in Italian politics was corrupt.
    .
    Time to remind ourselves of bygone election run-ups and how agent Cameron et.al managed to raise over £5 million in just 2 months; a large proportion of that suddenly coming in from Finance and Healthcare companies.

  53. Anders

    16 Nov, 2011 - 1:55 pm

    May is incompetent, an austerity witch and homophobic to boot –
    ——-
    Shirley you mean “homophobic old boot”? (can you buy kitten heel boots???)

  54. Mary

    16 Nov, 2011 - 2:56 pm

  55. Mary

    16 Nov, 2011 - 3:05 pm

    The trend is to employ local government CEOs for the top jobs. Now it’s Sir Bob Kerslake to replace O’Donnell.
    .

    http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/regulation/kerslake-appointed-head-of-civil-service/6519018.article

    {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Kerslake}
    .
    Tip to aspiring candidates for the top jobs – If you want to get ahead grow some face fungus.
    {http://www.jerrylampson.co.uk/jerrysphotos/bob-kerslake.jpg}

  56. Komodo

    16 Nov, 2011 - 4:11 pm

    Mary- you may have thought that what adorns my chin is toxic drool, but it is in fact a beard. No more antibeardism, please.

  57. ingo

    16 Nov, 2011 - 4:34 pm

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    you should try it Mary….:)

  58. AllisonFOSTER24

    17 Nov, 2011 - 7:16 pm

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    18 Nov, 2011 - 11:12 pm

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  66. Joe Templeton

    23 Nov, 2011 - 3:33 am

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    Clark is obviously a thoroughly decent public servant.

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