Martial Law Britain

by craig on July 12, 2012 12:39 pm in Uncategorized

Those coming from Central Asia, Bahrain, Qatar or Saudi Arabia to the Olympics, interested to see what life in a democracy feels like, will find it seems exactly like life at home in their dictatorship. 17,000 soldiers will be glowering over the venues, checking identity documents, stopping and searching. The mlitary will occupy residential buildings, be buzzing overhead, rolling down the streets and patrolling the river. There will be missiles on land, sea and air, though nobody knows what the threat is that this is supposed to counter.

What will make our dictatorship resident visitors feel especially at home is the contempt for the ordinary citizen. Not only will they have the military all over them and be subject to frequent stopping and questioning, they will be expected continually to get out of the way of their betters. Special VIP lanes on the road will allow officials to sweep by, while normal citizens will simply have to sit in gridlock and stew. Who cares? The military will stick missiles on your roof if they wish. What they are going to shoot down, and which bit of London it will land on, is not to be questioned.

Here in Ramsgate we are losing our regular train service to London completely for the duration. All the HS1 trains are being commandeered to run a shuttle service between Ebbsfleet and Stratford. 22 trains a day from Ramsgate are simply cancelled. Slow trains are available, but a journey normally 70 minutes will become – at the fastest possible – 2 hours and 35 minutes. A large number of commuters will simply be unable to get to work anything like on time, and have to spend door to door over seven hours a day in travelling as well as their working day. Nobody was consulted. Quite a few don’t yet know – there has been no determined effort to tell people. Leaflets are available in the ticket office if you ask for one.

But the leaflets might as well just say, “You are fucked, and we don’t care”.

The extra 3,500 military personnel it was today announced will be used at the games cover a shortfall in Group Four personnel. Group Four were providing 4,000 paid staff and 6,000 unpaid volunteers. It is the unpaid volunteer numbers which are short by 3,500.

Most people are not stupid. They may volunteer happily for sport or for charity, but to work for nothing to make tens of millions of pounds of profit for Group Four as it exploits them, plainly does not have universal appeal. Those 2,500 who have volunteered to work for nothing for G4S are the idiots in this story. How gullible can you be?

Bob Russell, MP for Colchester, today in parliament made the excellent point to Teresa May that Group Four (or G4S as they now call themselves) should not be employed because of their role in aiding and abetting Israel’s illegal activities in the West Bank and human rights abuse there. With breathtaking chutzpah Teresa May replied that it was this kind of valuable international experience that made Group Four the right company to provide security for the games.

Which brings me back to my point at the start. Those visiting from oppressive regimes will feel absolutely at home. That is the one and only thing you can trust Teresa May to ensure with grim efficiency.

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  1. A friends son who is unemployed but has a sports coaching qualification tried to volunteer but was turned down for an unspecified failure to pass the security screening.
    He’d needed to gain experience to get a job and thought given he wanted to become a sports coach, assisting at Olympic venue might be a plus on his CV.
    The recruitment people refused to give a reason when pressed, and he had no knowledge of why he might be.
    He contacted his local MP, who happened to be an ex-foreign secretary of your acquaintance. As the said MP had also been home secretary, he pulled some strings at the home office and he was allowed to volunteer (although no reason was given for the original black-listing).

  2. Chris

    Thanks. it is yet another horrible example of unemployed young people working for nothing for those who exploit them, in despair of getting something on their c.v.. If only it more often led to finding a real job.

  3. Theresa May is a dangerous woman anb a walking disaster. And a liar. Note she passed the buck to LOCOG. Today she said she nothing was amiss with the G4S until yesterday.
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    On Monday 9 July she answered these questions.

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    Gregg McClymont (Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East, Labour)
    What progress she has made on Olympic security preparations; and if she will make a statement.
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    Theresa May (Home Secretary; Maidenhead, Conservative)
    The Government and everyone involved are focused on delivering a safe, secure and successful games. We are confident in our planning and are leaving nothing to chance in our aim to deliver games that London, the UK and the whole world can enjoy.
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    Gregg McClymont (Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East, Labour)

    The Olympics are only 18 days away, but we learned over the weekend that G4S still needs to fill 9,000 security positions. Without those staff, security will surely be compromised. Will the Home Secretary therefore confirm that she has signed off G4S’s recruitment schedule? Will she also give a personal assurance to the House that those 9,000 security staff can be recruited, vetted and trained in the next 18 days?
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    Theresa May (Home Secretary; Maidenhead, Conservative)
    As the hon. Gentleman may be aware, venue security is being delivered by the London Organising Committee of the Olympic Games and Paralympic Games, G4S and the military. It is a huge operation to protect more than 100 different venues, and delivering it is a big challenge. The Home Office has put in place a number of assurance processes to ensure that we have effective and robust scrutiny of venue security planning. We have been testing our plans thoroughly and are confident that our partners will deliver a safe and secure games, but we are not complacent and will leave nothing to chance, so we will stay on the case.
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    Diana Johnson (Kingston upon Hull North, Labour)
    The Home Secretary has not answered the question asked by my hon. Friend Gregg McClymont. First, will she confirm that she personally signed off the G4S recruitment schedule? Secondly, will these 9,000 people be recruited, trained and in place, and will they have gone through the proper security vetting, by the opening of the Olympic games?
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    Theresa May (Home Secretary; Maidenhead, Conservative)

    The hon. Lady has missed one crucial point: the G4S contract is with LOCOG. The Home Office has a responsibility to test those plans and to provide assurance on them, which is exactly what it has been doing.

    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2012-07-09a.9.2

  4. You are right as the Advert used to say: “a bit of over there over here”.
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    Indeed we have made giant leaps towards servitude and serfdom all thanks to war on terror. St Tresa of May rightly identifies the valuable international experience of G4S, how truthful do you want her to be?
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    G4S have learned to treat the none chosen and Palestinians alike, all of whom are equally worthless, hence the volunteer force of slaves who will turn up dutifully having to buy their own sandwiches for dinner and enjoy Marshalling the other serfs, oh, the power trip. Mind these will be given a treat the red flags from their relevant job club files will be removed.
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    The VIP lanes, the missile shield, and the friendly howitzers with their virile muzzles are all a dick swinging exercise, that conveys one message; “we take no shit, and go ahead punk make my day”, doctrine so abundantly clear. A lesson to those mamby pamby dictators in how to dictate with style.
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    PS. the red flags of Job clubs are serious matters, anyone of the “Job Seekers” attaining two of the said red flags will have their benefit suspended from six to twelve months. The red flag can be attained if the “job seeker” has pawned his/her phone to buy gas/electric/food. Also other red flag offenses include not setting up an email without being tutored for or trained, ie if someone who is not computer savvy or does not know how to set up an email account does not count, as the illness and disabilities do not count as per the raft of new legislations targeting the waste of money spent on the “lazy” unemployed and the poor and the disabled.
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    PPS. don’t ask silly questions where are the jobs at? There is plenty free vacancies going, all you need to do is work for free, that is all.

  5. I am a “carer” to use modern day terminology,I am not fond of labels but it helps understand my foundations.The systematic destruction of Britain is appalling in the rapid rate at which it is happening.
    I am seeing many forced to work or have benefits removed when seriously ill,losing that benefit whilst sick,dying or disabled, mental break down from short term contracts in the “caring” sector.Workers and volunteers alike are all being engulfed by this tsunami of profit and power led wave.
    Workfare is unbelievably corrupt and many local charity shops willingly participate,dictating hours and I would imagine terrifying some young adults with their work hours demands.
    The last two olitical parties consider profit and power their God.Whilst there is no interactive care for our fellow human by small gestures and little steps we will be that dioctatorship. you so aptly describe.

  6. A note from a friend this morning -
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    A SUNDAY SCHOOL PICNIC
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    I have just watched the Leni Riefenstahl film of the 1936 Olympics. I know it was a propaganda film but it made those Olympics look like a civilized Sunday School picnic compared to the Blair/Cameron Games. It lasted but three days. The police/soldiers were suprisinging few and far between (about one every hundred feet). Hitler and his mob of nasties were on a rostrum in the middle of the thousands of spectators each day with no glass screens or military in sight. They were obviously enjoying the whole thing except when black athletes beat the Germans. Incidentally rumour has it that it was FDR who refused to shake Jesse Owens’ hand when he returned to USA.

    The access and design of the 1936 Stadia were impeccable compared to the shambles of Stratford. (which I think could turn into a tragedy if there was a stampede). They have confessed they are worried about access at the Westfield shopping centre. Their excuse is that four different rail companies had a hand in building Stratford station (and it looks like it.)
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    Yours …..
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    PS An outcome of the meeting last night at Lincolns Inn about security crackdowns in UK organised by CAMPACC is that I have at last got confirmation from leading Lawyers about who represents the UK State re the Geneva Conventions. It’s The Director of Public Prosecutions (they changed the law last year)

  7. Someone’s sussed G4S, anyway. Libya has banned it from guarding EU officials in Tripoli…despite G4S having hired the former UK Ambassador to Libya as an advisor: “Richard (Northern) will be instrumental in guiding us as we establish our Libyan business and support the country’s redevelopment” (Private Eye, today)
    That gets a rofl from me.

  8. Some of the unpaid volunteers will have been forced to do it.

    Have a look here Craig
    http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/

  9. Call me a curmudgeon but I’m adamant the olympics should never have gone ahead. What a staggering waste of public money they are. The sports arenas left behind will rust and a few wealthy people will be able to afford to move into the olympic “village”. London grinds to a halt for 4 weeks and we’re left to suffer the consequences.

  10. Neil

    Even the Olympic village is a fail. No way the yuppies will buy the flats. They look like the Whtifield flats in Dundee before they were demolished, or one of the nastier Soviet estates in Moscow.

  11. There’s no way anyone will buy most of them. The deal was to hand the Qataris some lucrative tenancies on a plate…
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/aug/12/olympic-village-qatari-ruling-family

  12. Good post Craig.

    These Olympics are just an excuse for corporate whores,politicians and military psychopaths to profiteer and ramp up the fear and loathing.

    Nothing else-certainly nothing to do with sport and fostering goodwill and understanding between nations,

    A sad state of affairs really.

    Zeitgeist indeed.

  13. Some more British citizens who are f****d – these who rely on three South London hospitals for their medical care. I never thought I would hear that an NHS trust was being put into administration. Some crappy retail chain maybe but not OUR NHS hospitals. The poor people and the staff too.
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    12 July 2012 Last updated at 13:04
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    South London Healthcare NHS Trust put into administration
    The trust was created by merging three hospitals
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    South London Healthcare NHS Trust is to be put into administration after it ran into financial trouble, the government has announced.
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    Health Secretary Andrew Lansley has appointed a trust special administrator to go into the trust.
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    Mr Lansley said: “Past efforts have not succeeded in putting the South London Healthcare Trust on a sustainable path.”
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    The trust has run up deficits of more than £150m since being created in 2009.
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    It is the first time an NHS trust has been put into administration.
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    /…
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18812193

  14. Oh never spent much time in Dundee. Use to drive though Sighthill and Wester Hailes every work day however!

    The knock-on effect of the olympics has been to push up house prices and rents in east London by incredible multiples. The stories of landlords simply booting out tenants in search of olympic gold has made the headlines a few times now. (England has the worst private tenancy protection in the developed world and a majority of the third world …)

  15. I recall vivdly how excited we young people used to be about the Olympics of 1956, 1960, 1964. All the sports were strictly amateur, and there was very little money to be made by anyone. (The austere London Olympics of 1948 were still fresh in most people’s memory – anyone who doesn’t know what the Olympic movement used to be about should read one of the excellent books about 1948).

    This year, I wouldn’t go to any of the Olympic venues unless I was paid quite a lot of money to do so. I shall tune in to a few of the athletics events on TV, maybe a spot of swimming, and some tennis. I very much wish the Olympics were being held somewhere – anywhere – else. It has becoming a hideously cynical exercise in money-making.

  16. Isn’t the real point of all the missiles and other military activity to show them off to the visiting heads of state in order to boost the profits of BAE etc.?

  17. Hitting the proverbial nail on the head once more and as always, Craig. Thank you. This elite S*** Fest was always going to be a problem in all sorts of ways and so it will prove. It gives the lie to all the bosh we hear from our politicians about democracy. “Demagogracy” would be more accurate. ‘Twill be interesting to see when or if the troops leave the streets once the Rituals are over.

  18. Tom Welsh: “All the sports were strictly amateur…”
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    Yes, I thought so! I’ve stated this to a number of people, and they’ve just looked at me blankly.

  19. Agree Neil. Stratford will be just like this a a few years’ time. This is the Athens stadium last February.
    http://www.newbrandtribalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/AthensStadium.jpg
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    I see the Greek people were shafted for $9nbn eight years ago just as we have been for £9bn and counting.
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    I found the photo on this link which we should send on to Bliar in his new role as ‘adviser on the Olympic legacy’. It would be funny if it was not so serious.
    {http://www.newbrandtribalism.com/2012/03/02/the-role-of-brands-in-a-post-olympic-world/}

  20. There were 4,000 signatures on this petition yesterday afternoon when I signed. Today there are over 73,000. Enough said.
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    The petition text:
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    To the CEOs of companies sponsoring the Olympics,
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    Please do the right thing and pay your fair share of tax on your huge profits from the London Olympics
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    give up your Olympic tax break
    publish full financial details to prove you’ve done it
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    https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/olympic-tax-dodging-petition
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    I would have left out the word ‘please’.
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    The UK’s winning Olympic bid included huge tax breaks for corporate sponsors. As a result, massive multi-nationals stand to make a tax-free fortune all at our expense.
    If enough of us complain, then it might scare these image-conscious companies into backing down and refusing their Olympic tax-dodge.
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    Please add your name to the petition and shame these Olympic corporate sponsors into doing the right thing, sign the petition now.
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    UPDATE McDonalds have said they will not take theirs.

  21. “I see the Greek people were shafted for $9nbn eight years ago just as we have been for £9bn and counting.”
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18073793
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    {http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2012/04/32-die-a-week-after-failing-in.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter}

  22. I laughed when the M4 got closed this weekend. Of all the roads in London to be fucked just before the Olympics, it had to be the main route in to London from the main port of entry… If they can’t fix it, honestly, it will be quicker to fly to most destinations than to get a ride into London. Even the VIPs. Until they get the tanks out to clear a path through Hounslow, which I suppose they will seriously consider doing.

    Whilst I have no time for Cameron’s Tories, I have a little sympathy in terms the Olympics – which is of course another Blair inheritance.

    And it really is typical Blair – a grand, Utopian plan cooked up with zero attention to detail, minimal public support, an intentionally lowballed budget, with no idea what success will look like, and always destined to become someone else’s problem.

  23. Theresa May is a Zionist supporter. She attended the Herzliya conference in February this year.
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    Craig said ‘Bob Russell, MP for Colchester, today in parliament made the excellent point to Teresa May that Group Four (or G4S as they now call themselves) should not be employed because of their role in aiding and abetting Israel’s illegal activities in the West Bank and human rights abuse there. With breathtaking chutzpah Teresa May replied that it was this kind of valuable international experience that made Group Four the right company to provide security for the games.’
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    Yonatan said this on a previous post.http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/01/ios-on-werrittys-case/

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    ’8 Jan, 2012 – 3:26 pm
    Re: Herzliya – it seems to have two tracks, an open part and a closed ‘invitation only’ round table. Fox is listed as a speaker in 2009, 2010 and 2011, but there is no sign of any contribution in the open sections. Presumably the talks were delivered in the ‘invitation only’ sessions. Given he was there officially, it would be interesting to know what he saying.

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    In 2009 and 2010, Sir Michael Pakenham, Former Chairman of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee played a part in several panels. In 2011 Michael Dugher (UK Shadow Defence Minister) was on the panel “Is Israel Losing Europe”, John Spellar (UK Shadow Minister for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs) was on a panel “Addressing the Assault on Israel’s Legitimacy in Europe” and Lorna Fitzsimmons took part in “On Criticism and Prejudice: The Arab-Israeli Conflict and the Assault on Israel’s Legitimacy”. Ms Fitzsimmons will be there again in 2012 rubbing shoulders with such pillars of the great and good as Theresa May’
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    This was May’s contribution
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    MAKING A DIFFERENCE: WOMEN IN INTERNATIONAL
    SECURITY
    Hon. Dr. Marta Lucia Ramirez de Rincon, Fmr. Minister of Defense of
    Colombia
    Hon. Elisabeth Rehn, Fmr. Minister of Defense of Finland
    Amb. Jill Sinclair, Assistant Deputy Minister (Policy), Department of
    National Defence of Canada*
    Rt. Hon. Theresa May, Home Secretary and Minister for Women and
    Equality, UK Home Office*
    Lt. Gen. (ret.) Orit Adato, Fmr. Commissioner of the Israeli Prison
    Service
    Moderator: Ms. Lea Landman, Research Fellow, Institute for Policy
    and Strategy, IDC Herzliya; Acting Executive Director, WIIS Israel
    —————
    Hon. Janet Napolitano, US Secretary of Homeland Security*
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    {http://www.herzliyaconference.org/eng/_Uploads/dbsAttachedFiles/ProgramE(5).pdf}
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    Vile. She must have swopped notes with the Israeli prison service woman. Torture, detention without trial and locking up children their specialty.

  24. Good ole Blakey. Just had to change one letter to bring it up to date:
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    And did those feet in ancient time
    Walk upon England’s mountain green?
    And was the holy Lamb of God
    On England’s pleasant pastures seen?
    And did the countenance divine
    Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
    And was Jerusalem builded here
    Among those dark satanic tills?

    Bring me my bow of burning gold!
    Bring me my arrows of desire!
    Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
    Bring me my chariot of fire!
    I will not cease from mental fight,
    Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
    Till we have built Jerusalem
    In England’s green and pleasant land.

  25. “I see the Greek people were shafted for $9nbn eight years ago just as we have been for £9bn and counting.” (mary)
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    If we learn anything from history it is that we learn nothing from history. In eight years’ time we too will be largely unemployed, rioting, with no social services, and run by unelected fatcats. Or, at any rate, even more than we are already.

  26. As Del Boy would say, ‘What a plonker’.
    The Bottom Line Nick Boles CEO G4S
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18366018
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    I should think that like the Diamond geezer, he’s now toast.
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    Something good has come out of this debacle though. Surrey Police will not consider G4S in their privatisation discussions. Go the whole hog Surrey Police, and cancel the discussions. You know outsourcing will not give reliability however cheaply the companies offer their services.

  27. Question remains why is blair back, pre announced pre olympics pre iran and syria .

  28. how much has “G4S” given in party “donations” — i wonder?

  29. “Theresa May is a Zionist supporter”
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    I could be wrong, but I doubt that she’s any more a supporter of Israel or Zionism than anyone here.
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    People like her support the power of the moment and that’s all. That’s why they’re incapable of articulating any argument for their cause. It’s staggering the extent to which “support” for Zionism has grown in Britain over the past 20 or so years. Prior to that official support was for the Arab regimes and public support of the Palestinians was encouraged. That’s why Jenny Tonge has gone from goodie to baddie over the same period.
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    Anyway, there are grounds for optimism in this “support” whilst seeming miles wide being but millimetres deep.

  30. Why made me say Nick Boles CEO G4S? It is Nick Buckles.
    Boles is an MP. Took Thatcher’s old seat of Grantham. Bilderberger, member of Henry Jackson Society and a PPS to a Gove minister. Now where is that garlic and the stake?

  31. G4S bung…”Lobbyists Euro RSCG Apex
    Communications, which gave £11,900 (to the Tories -K)), represents A4E, G4S and Serco.
    http://www.sunray22b.net/1277.htm
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    I’m sure that’s just for starters.

  32. doug scorgie

    12 Jul, 2012 - 3:58 pm

    For any interested activists that can attend;this meeting should prove informative about Israeli settlements in the West Bank and G4S

    Merton PSC July meeting on G4S

    JULY MEETING – G4S

    Tuesday 17th July at 7.30 pm

    Venue: South London Irish Centre,
    140-142, Hartfield Rd. SW19 3TG

    Topics: Globe, G4S,& Jubilee Diamond Protest Video Clips

    Speaker:

    Diana Neslen – a signatory of Jews for Justice for Palestinians

    A short walk from Wimbledon Station
    Please attend or send a friend (I,m a poet and don,t know it).

  33. Herbie One doesn’t to go to or get invited to Herzliya for fun. It means she has a commitment to the little ‘state’.

  34. Mary wrote: “Herbie One doesn’t to go to or get invited to Herzliya for fun. It means she has a commitment to the little ‘state’.”

    Quite so. Fox was also an attendee as were a couple of BP (or ex-BP?) people taking part in a game about how to handle Israel’s oil/gas reserves should the price go to $250 a barrel. Hoard or sell, tricky?

    On a light note, I came across a funny comment regarding the Levy ‘occupation denial’ report in Israel. On the excellent 972mag.com site, a ‘Richard SM’ called the West Bank occupation ‘The Great Terrain Robbery’. Excellent play on words.

    http://972mag.com/the-name-game-what-should-we-call-the-situation-in-the-west-bank/50708/

  35. xpensive planes, slow trains and jammed automobiles

    12 Jul, 2012 - 6:48 pm

    Whistleblower’s Olympic Security Warning.
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    A whistleblower involved in training staff for security firm G4S has told Sky News he believes there is a 50-50 chance someone could carry a bomb into one of the Olympic venues….
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    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/whistleblowers-olympic-security-warning-163115426.html

  36. Thanks Yonatan even though my typo was repeated! Word play v good.
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    The comment above from too long to type again – Some have been saying that there is a dirty bomb in the foundations. At the beginning of the work, security was not very full on.

    I did not know that Her Maj is opening it. I do hope that the tedious ‘ceremony’ does not go on for hours and hours with speeches, displays, flag raisings, national anthems and then the bloody flame/torch which I am so sick of hearing about from inane presenters. Don’t know how they live with themselves repeating the garbage.
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    http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsandDiary/Pressreleases/2012/OpeningOlympicParalympicGames2012.aspx

  37. So, Mary and Yonatan,
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    You think May went to Herzliya through personal choice.
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    I see.
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    And Mary, this is all a bit like your Martin McGuinness shakey hands bollocks.
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    Miles wide, skin deep. Forget it at your peril.

  38. Troops on the street? We are now officially a banana republic, without the bananas or the good weather.

  39. I’m wondering if the 2,500 “volunteers” are really volunteers at all, or if, like the “volunteers” who worked for free for the Jubilee, they are unemployed people told that they either do unpaid work or else they can lose their benefits and starve. Even if you count the benefits as payment (which in many cases would be a liberty as some of these people will have worked and paid taxes for years) it wouldn’t justify more than part time work for the £70 odd a week.

  40. @Herbie I do not much like the tone of your comment pr your language. You are forgetting May’s vendettas against Sheikh Raed Salah based on false information provided to her by the Community Security Trust, and other Muslims. Whose agenda do you think these actions fit?
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    And why rake up that business of McGuiness shaking hands with the Queen? I see no connection. I stand by what I said then and what I say now.

  41. How far have we strayed off the path? These days someone has to get an MP to pull strings so that their relative can be given a “Job” that does not pay, so that he/she can work. Who said it was a banana republic? No it is more like KSA (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) et al with “wasta” thou shalt live being the motto.
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    It now makes sense to see all the troops pulled out of Afghanistan coming to London to man the Olympics, the only tricky bit is when the fireworks star some of these troops not to have a flash back and get into the Afghanistan mode.
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    Herbie,
    Do you imply that her Madj’s Home Secretary Teresa May was compelled to go to hertzylya to kiss the chosen butts and genuflect to all things yeddish under duress and not of her own free will?

  42. I certainly agree that we are beginning to look like a dictatorship.
    Only problem with that is , who’s dictating ?
    Willie Hague was always a klutz, Osborne is an incompetent idiot, and Cameron cant stick with one decision for more than a day.
    May would strike terror into the bravest of us, but she’s not very savvy.
    She did mention today that the security has been meticulously planned.
    Getting that sinking feeling that more than the Olympic games is planned.
    I seriously hope it gets rained off.

  43. More of the news that you will not get from any of the “usual newsmongers”.
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    Sheik Namer the spiritual leader of the Saudi dissidents’ kidnapping and torture by the KSA authorities, has resulted in the ultimatum of the dissidents whom have warned the KSA authorities: they have five days to release the said Sheik or face the destruction of the eastern board of the oil wells. Also the dissidents have warned of a campaign of total disruption yet to be unleashed.
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    Regardless of the efforts to filter out these latest developments in KSA, the probable threat of the disruption of oil, will be pushing the price of oil higher.
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    Clearly people of KSA have had enough of the repression and oppression and are now taking the matters into their own hands. Good luck and God speed to the dissidents fighting the most repressive regime on the planet.

  44. Fedup
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    Yeah, more or less. She’d be kissing Arab ass where that in vogue today. My main point is that you need to look more at the authors of the drama rather than the characters they write. There’s no point mixing your metaphors and slagging off the monkey. We already know they don’t represent us, or even themselves for that matter other than in terms of ambition.
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    Mary, for example, often talks about “agent” Cameron so you’d expect she’d understand the point too, but alas she just read it somewhere and thought it cute.
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    Martin McGuinness is perhaps Ireland’s foremost shaker of hands. He shook that of an ex-Israeli ambassador and a queen and even Unionists, but still his party is one of the very few in govt anywhere in Europe where Jenny Tongeism is not just tolerated but actively encouraged. Some members of his party even go on those relief boats to Palestine.

  45. Firstly here is a video clip of the sheik Namer, he is talking about governance and politics.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn23wH_risE

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    Herbie,
    As you will know for the last many decades none having been in vogue other than the self awarded chosen ones, then is it not an exercise in futility to allude to Arabs etc.? Further, So far as representation goes, everyone of the carpetbaggers are in it for what they can get out of it, therefore we can safely assume they represent themselves pretty good.
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    However we also as human beings have what is know as the sense of discerning right from wrong, therefore the notion of taking the shekel and mingling with a bunch of parasitic supremacists whose blind allegiance to the principles of tribalism, free land (mainly others lands), and free murder and discrimination against all from without the tribe, is akin to drug peddling parasites who earn their living off the misery of their constituents and is plainly wrong by any standards personal or otherwise.
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    Finally, the fact that Martin McGuinness extends his hand of friendship is a measure of his success in setting the pace of change against those whom had disenfranchised him and his kind. Hence his parties’ affinity with the disenfranchised Palestinians whom of no fault of their own have been lving at the gates of hell on Earth for the duration of the last seven decades.
    ,
    If a butterfly flapping its wing in outer Mongolia can affect the weather in the North Sea, then what kind of fucked up effect will the total disregard of the ziofuckwits to all values human would have on our rights in UK, and elsewhere?

  46. It’s the Stingray Olympics: missiles, Typhoon jets, Our Most Powerful Naval Vessel on standby, the country sinking into the ground and, of course, a puppet government.

  47. Mary correction to your post. FDR did not refuse to shake Jesse Owen’s hand. The story is that Owens felt snubbed because he never received a congratulatory telegram from the White House.

  48. I’ve just got home from a bar in town where I had a conversation with a soldier. He was twenty years old, he’d joined up at sixteen. They had told him he wouldn’t be sent to Afghanistan, but he was, and members of his unit had been killed. Tonight was the start of his three month leave, after which he fully expects to be sent back there again.
    .
    He proposed a toast to the Army. I declined, and suggested we drink to the soldiers, but not the army, because they shouldn’t be out there in the first place.
    .
    From this point on, my skill with language is inadequate for what I wish to express. His emotions were clearly strung nearly to breaking point, he was full of anger and fear. At first he said he wanted to go back to seek revenge for his comrades who had been killed, but his aggression was overflowing in other directions too. At one point his anger became too much for him, and he went away to be alone for a few minutes.
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    He also seemed alienated. He expected to be excluded from the bar by the bouncer, and didn’t expect to be permitted to enter the nearby club. They did let him in, and I wished him well. I said that I hoped that he would be assigned to the Olympics rather than sent back to Afghanistan. His attitude had changed, mellowed. Now he said that he’d rather not be sent back, but he didn’t see any hope of that. So we raised our glasses to his family and comrades, and lifted our middle fingers to the politicians who sent him there.
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    Less than half my age, with an emotional burden like that to carry for the rest of his life, if he even gets the chance to live it.

  49. “I certainly agree that we are beginning to look like a dictatorship.
    Only problem with that is , who’s dictating ?” (Donnie D)
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    Haven’t been following the story, have you, Donnie? :-)
    .
    Plot synopsis here:
    http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2012/07/09/opinion-the-finance-lobby-faces-its-biggest-challenge/

  50. ‘Most people are not stupid. They may volunteer happily for sport or for charity, but to work for nothing to make tens of millions of pounds of profit for Group Four as it exploits them, plainly does not have universal appeal. Those 2,500 who have volunteered to work for nothing for G4S are the idiots in this story. How gullible can you be?’
    .
    I blogged on Cameron’s love of charity yesterday. To my mind there are two types of charity of which Cameron approves, charities like Atlantic Bridge, where the ultra-rich make donations in return for favours, and charities in which the poor are made to work for nothing. It is blatant.
    .
    http://johngossip.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/big-society-camerons-love-of-charity.html

  51. Cameron’s crowd are looking more and more like American Republicans every day of the week.

  52. If you had no idea what Britain was really all about before, then you would have no excuse after this Olympics carve-up is over. It takes something big like this for the fascists to show their true colours. I just hope it rains and rains and rains throught-out and the roads are grid-locked and public transport fails. There will be egg on their big fat money grabbing faces and I’d like to hear what excuse Boris comes out with to jolly it along. The Govt can’t control the weather and this will be the downfall of the Games and not the supposed terrorism attacks.

  53. Why are there so many conspiracies going around surrounding the olympics. Things like mass death, conspiracies around the illuminati doing some inside jobs on certain actions

  54. Parky, Boris would probably claim he had found the ‘God particle’.

  55. Chilling photos here.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172909/Olympic-security-Londons-green-space-transformed-anti-aircraft-guns-Olympic-ring-steel.html
    .
    I hear that Hyde Park is being considered for a camp for the army personnel and that the olympic road lanes are already open.
    .
    FYI Herbie (still being snide I see) I read the phrase ‘Agent Cameron’ for the first time on this blog. I did not think it ‘cute’ as you say just appropriate.
    .
    Can you spot Mrs May in this large gathering of the CFoI?
    http://www2.cfoi.co.uk/Events/PastEvents/ ;)

  56. willyrobinson

    13 Jul, 2012 - 10:56 am

    @craig
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    Brilliant, not a word out of place.
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    “What they are going to shoot down, and which bit of London it will land on, is not to be questioned.” Oooof!

  57. I liked your piece John and yes shame on the condems for the changes made to the structure of management of our canals and waterways. They are part of our true legacy.

  58. TGPIF – Thank God particle it’s Friday.
    .
    Interesting piece here:
    “Israel Admits War Causes Were Fabricated”
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    “Even before the Hezbollah War, Israel knew it was hopeless to retrieve abducted IDF soldiers” — Ehud Olmert
    http://www.roytov.com/articles/olmertlebanon.htm
    .
    “What they are going to shoot down, and which bit of London it will land on, is not to be questioned.”
    .
    Since they’re hardly expecting a fighter like an F-16, are they planning to shoot down a hijacked passenger plane right over London? One carrying a bomb perhaps? It’s increasingly looking like it’s all for show.

  59. Seems there’s to be a 30-mile exclusion zone for all but scheduled commercial flights. Like the 9/11 ones, yes?
    .
    So the answer to what they are expecting is an IED on a hang glider.

  60. Komodo….the answer is in the new BA commercial on the TVs…

  61. Thanks Mary. The canals, especially around the Midlands, are a pleasure to behold. Unfortunately it will not be for long now before they are in total disrepair. In the 1930s a gift was made to Birmingham City Council of Elford Hall in Staffordshire, a stately home which was used for housing paintings during WWII and afterwards to provide shelter for refugee children. No maintenance was done on Elford Hall and it was demolished.
    .
    http://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/engine/resource/default.asp?resource=5973
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    I fear the same will happen to the canals. Cameron talks of charity when what he actually means is slavery.

  62. It’s interesting (and worrying) to peruse Wikipedia’s article on “Authoritarianism”.
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    “Authoritarianism is a form of social organization characterized by submission to authority as well as the administration of said authority. It is usually opposed to individualism and libertarianism. In politics, an authoritarian government is one in which political authority is concentrated in a small group of politicians”.
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    Hmmm… keep talking.
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    “Authoritarianism is characterized by highly concentrated, and centralized power maintained by political repression and the exclusion of potential challengers. It uses political parties and mass organizations to mobilize people around the goals of the regime.
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    “Authoritarianism emphasizes arbitrary law rather than the rule of law, it often includes election rigging, political decisions being made by a select group of officials behind closed doors, a bureaucracy that sometimes operates independently of rules,[dubious – discuss] which does not properly supervise elected officials, and fails to serve the concerns of the constituencies they purportedly serve. Authoritarianism also tends to embrace the informal and unregulated exercise of political power, a leadership that is “self-appointed and even if elected cannot be displaced by citizens’ free choice among competitors,” the arbitrary deprivation of civil liberties, and little tolerance for meaningful opposition.
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    “A range of social controls also attempt to stifle civil society, while political stability is maintained by control over and support of the armed forces, a bureaucracy staffed by the regime, and creation of allegiance through various means of socialization and indoctrination”.
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    Remind you of anything familiar?

  63. Uzbek in the UK

    13 Jul, 2012 - 11:45 am

    Well, no surprise to me. Britain is heading BACK to the best of it-Victorian times. Is not Victorian age called Golden Age of Britain?
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    Rich are getting richer, poor are getting poorer, but who cares. Poor are stupid enough to trust rich to rob them yet again and again. Vote for Tory, Vote for Labour, Vote for LibDem poor will be F..cked anyway, bankers, and corporate gung will only benefit. Government’s actions are getting less and less checked, Western democracy is losing its legitimacy at home (whereas abroad it had lost it long time ago).
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    Olympics is in par with the biggest rip off British public was subjected to in the last 6 years. Over 15 billions was spent, most came from public money, and only BIG corporations and gung of greedy landlords will benefit from it. The rest of us will further be subjected to martial law, to make way for BIG corporations to enjoy the show and make big cash at the same time.
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    What a wonderful times we are living in.

  64. CiD

    ‘Why are there so many conspiracies going around surrounding the olympics….’
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    It could be something to do with freelance reporter Ben Fellows who went undercover to infiltrate G4S and claimed that they had imported 200,000 caskets and had plans for the evacuation of London.
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    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1915227/pg1
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    I’m making no comment on the veracity of his claim, but if you listen to his interview it’s pretty obvious that he is not a moonbat but a bona fide journalist who set off to make a straight piece of investigatory journalism and accidentally fell down the rabbit hole.
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    Make of it what you will.

  65. Uzbek in the UK

    13 Jul, 2012 - 12:00 pm

    Not often I see myself defending Soviet system but here we go.
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    Mr Murray, I just wanted to argue with you about your “nastier Soviet estates in Moscow” comment.
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    It is not just you, but quite often the same argument is heard from British or US media about horrible Soviet estates and so on.
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    FYI, housing in USSR was free and from what I have experienced, homelessness was absent. Yes, there was a waiting list which lasted for 3-6 years, but those on the waiting list were also offered temporary accommodation. I have been in some places in Europe, and living now in the UK I do not see how average European and British estates are any better. Of course if one compares average Moscow estate to a multimillion mansion on Billionaries Avenue, one would see huge difference, but comparing the same average Moscow estate to the average London estate, one would see very little if any difference. In fact I came across a number of estates in London, particularly multi-apartment estates that are far worse than average Moscow estates.
    .
    Now why would you use “nastier Soviet estates” argument when on one side you are talking about accommodation provided for free, and on the other accommodation for which average Londoner need to work for 25-30 years to pay off mortgage debts?

  66. Craig,

    A bit late, but welcome back to the blogosphere. You must not stop blogging. You are pretty much the only source of critical, independent political analysis many of us ever see. It may seem hopeless sometimes but speaking as a former blinkered, inveterate tory w***er, you are saving people’s political souls. Keep going.

  67. I wish they would bring out the 1970s TV series “1990″ about an authoritarian future Britain on DVD. It starred Edward Woodward and Lisa Harrow.

  68. Uzbek in the UK

    13 Jul, 2012 - 12:22 pm

    John Goss
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    Nice post on Cameron’s love of charity.
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    Taking from the rich, giving to the poor. Wait a second, it is not Tory, it was Robin Hood.
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    Taking from the poor, giving to the rich. That would be Tory love of charity work.

  69. Uzbek, not Robin Hood but Robin’ Bastard!

  70. Uzbek in the UK

    13 Jul, 2012 - 1:40 pm

    There are also few other DOWNsides of the Olympics hardly mentioned here.
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    Few thousands of people had to move out of their houses/flats/flatshares in East London in Stratford and West Ham in particular as they were kicked out by their greedy landlords, who were promised huge rent revenues by greedy estate agencies. For some greedy bastards this materialised, for others failed to. As most of those who were kicked out were either foreigners (you know these Poles, eastern Europeans in general and these Asians) or so called lower middle class, these kicking outs did not make to the big screen. No actions from the Newham Council, nothing from the Mayor of London. Everyone were prising Olympics and how great it is for the nation and for the image of London. Well I guess no one noticed thousands of Poles etc. moving out with their belongings OR otherwise it was overshadowed by the great expectation of this great game.
    .
    Besides this it had also inflated the rent in East London. Newham Borough is known as second most deprived Borough in London, with long list of all sorts of social problems. And yet, rent in Newham in 2012 now averaged to the rent in much more well off London Boroughs. May be it was a grand plan of Tory Mayor of London and Tory government to socially cleanse Newham, to make it unaffordable to all those who fail to pass Tory Social Status check.

  71. “False Flags are a standard stratagem, particularly in democracies, in which it’s necessary to create consensus before waging war. In 1898 the explosion of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor propelled the American people into the Spanish-American War, much as 9/11 propelled us into invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq a century later.” Captain May
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    The Olympic stage supports such a false-flag…
    .
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136795/Olympic-ring-steel-SIX-missile-sites-protect-Games–Cameron-finger-trigger.html
    .
    We are witnessing an aberrant accretion of military hardware in the Persian Gulf including a British nuclear submarine.
    .
    {http://rt.com/usa/news/war-sub-drone-iran-066/}
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    Thanks to a number of brave colleagues who have provided intelligence. All that remains is to achieve excellent public awareness.

  72. Children in East London will lose two weeks’ schooling. What about that Mr Gove? OK with you?
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18824674
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    I can’t find a link but I heard on a news summary that day centres for the elderly nearby will be shut for the duration of both games because of road congestion. Home visits would be made in emergencies. How nice for the old people stuck in their homes and not seeing a soul for weeks on end. ie 27th July – 12th August and then 29th August – 9th Sept.

  73. Uzbek in the UK, I was born in 1963. I formed an impression about “Russia”. Looking back, it was a child’s impression formed from mainstream media propaganda, reinforced by my mother. I “knew” what “Russia” was like. It was always cold, the Sun never shone, and people were poor because the state spent all its money on missiles. Housing was damp and crumbling, everyone was perpetually unhappy and no one dared speak or act out of line. Everyone was forced to wear similar clothing and no individuality was tolerated. No one ever dared to laugh. No one there knew anything true, because their media lied to them consistently. Everyone wished to escape, but they were imprisoned in their country. I’ve never put this description into words before; it was a set of vague feelings formed in childhood, and in words it looks ridiculous.
    .
    In my 20s I started to think that the mainstream media was propagandist and I deliberately eliminated it from my life. I wouldn’t have a television in my home and I never bought a newspaper. I deliberately ignored anything remotely political.
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    In about 1990, I met some people at a friend’s home. They obviously weren’t English. We chatted and laughed and exchanged stories. Some things seemed odd; at home, they had gone to the swimming pool most days, but in the UK it was too expensive. Apparently, their municipal swimming pool was free to use, and so was their telephone system. There was also municipal childcare. I couldn’t imagine where they could be from, so I asked. They were Russians.
    .
    What? Suddenly, my childhood impressions were confronted with reality. These people with complete personalities were at odds with my impression of the downtrodden victims of Communism, and in some ways they were richer than us in the UK. The “Iron Fist of Communism” hadn’t destroyed their humanity and turned them into subservient “workers”. They were visiting the UK, not escaping from Russia. They had just lived within a different system, with a different set of advantages and disadvantages which they had learned to cope with, much as I had learned to live with unemployment, insecurity of housing and commercial exploitation.
    .
    What a stupid, pointless ideological battle. Maybe, in a more enlightened future, humans will learn that progress is a matter of finding the good features in all the different ideologies, and combining them as best we can.
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    So the USSR offered free housing and there was no homelessness. Shout it from the rooftops, Uzbek, along with the injustices and oppressions of the Soviet system, because I, for one, would never have guessed if you hadn’t mentioned it.

  74. Kingfelix, interesting article. The article presents no evidence to account for the vast difference between Sir John Sawers’ allegations and the assessments of the CIA, NSA and IAEA, just the usual “secret intelligence”.
    .
    The exaggeration of the Iranian “threat” is only made possible by the legacy of the Cold War and Mutually Assured Destruction. Estimates I’ve seen of potential Iranian nuclear weapons capability range from one to six nuclear devices. These would be atomic bombs, like the ones used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, weapons that rely on fission, not fusion, “A bombs”, not “H bombs”, with yields in the kilo-tonne range, not the mega-tonne range. Nasty, but by modern standards, puny.
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    So what even if Iran did build six such nukes? What could they possibly hope to use them for apart from a defensive deterrent? Any offensive use of such weapons would invite a counter-attack with thermonuclear hydrogen warheads, each one five hundred times as powerful. Iran would risk comprehensive devastation.

  75. Uzbek in the UK

    13 Jul, 2012 - 3:06 pm

    Clark
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    Soviet system like any other systems (even slavery) had its good and bad points.
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    Yes, as I mentioned housing was free, given by the state for indefinite tenancy to every Soviet family. There was as I said a waiting list. Families with many children, disabled or war veterans were given priority and the rest waited for around 3-6 years to get hold of the keys to (in most cases) newly built apartments. Yes, it was good, as was that fact that unemployment was not only non-existent but (as I previously mentioned) administrative offence.
    .
    BUT free housing was financed by the fact that state kept the absolutely major share of the revenue. Soviet citizens were paid in average 140 (in 1970th) and 180 rubles per months (in 1980th) and 1 ruble was officially equal to 1 USD. There was extreme corruption amongst those who had power or/and access to the state resources. No matter what one did, the maximum salary (usually paid to Professors in military research centres or government officials) was around 500 rubles per months (including premiums). On the top of it government officials obviously abused their power for self enrichment. Systems of justice, higher education, even/especially free housing allocation was the most corrupt.
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    All in all soviet system collapsed. Not because of the pressure from outside, or because of the rise of nationalism in republics (that followed after USSR collapsed) but because the UNwritten agreement between the soviet state and soviet citizens was broken and state failed to provide all these free goodies for which soviet citizens agreed to tolerate many of soviet states wrong doings.

  76. Further to my own questions, could the answer be political rather than military? If Iran developed nuclear weapons, would they have a good claim to a seat on the UN Security Council?

  77. “Can you spot Mrs May in this large gathering of the CFoI?
    .
    http://www2.cfoi.co.uk/Events/PastEvents/
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    Yes, well. This is going to be very embarrassing for Mrs May, isn’t it, Mary?
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    I see the fragrant Chloe Smith further down the page on the new MP trip to familiarise themselves with the Israeli position. She’ll clearly be horrified too.
    .
    Oh look! There’s Boris in Edgeware doing his not Ken impression:
    .
    {http://www2.cfoi.co.uk/Events/PastEvents/}
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    No chance of Boris winning an election if that comes out, is there Mary? He’ll surely be cast into oblivion now.
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    Keep up the good work exposing all these secretive rascals, saying one thing and ummm errr doing the same thing too.

  78. @komodo
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    A good contribution.
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    Along the same lines, ‘China’ as a nation is regularly demonized in the US media, and now we have the ‘pivot to Asia’…
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    Yet, a single visit to the Taiwan National Palace Museum, to see the masses of Chinese tourist parties is a great experience. And what is seen? Just a large selection of human beings who resemble nothing so much as your regular *American* tourists, same clothes, same labels, same aspirations, to see some of the world, to take their families on an adventure. The intention is clearly to join the party re: consumerism, to aspire to the Rolex watch, the Mercedes car, the nice house with the big screen TV. A threat to the environment, perhaps, but not any sort of threat to capitalism itself. For all its faults, at least the PRC will talk economic inequality and seek to build solutions into its planning, whereas gazing across the Atlantic (or the UK) reveals societies where a sliver of the wealthy and privileged prefer to efface inequality behind talk of ‘rewarding the job creators’ or through demonising the poor, etc.
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    It’s no less depressing for the fact that we all know it, we all see through it.
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    Governments have got their populations sliced and diced and ignorant and afraid. We say it all the time here on Craig’s blog. Fear and ignorance is money in the bank for these tiny sectional interests that seek to control reality for the masses.

  79. Uzbek, you wrote: “…soviet system collapsed. Not because of the pressure from outside…but because the UNwritten agreement between the soviet state and soviet citizens was broken and state failed to provide all these free goodies..”
    .
    But my impression is that the USSR’s financial failure WAS due to pressure from outside, at least partly. Trade embargoes crippled Soviet export capabilities, and the Cold War arms race placed a huge financial burden upon the USSR, whereas for capitalism, it just made the rich corporations richer.

  80. Herbie, this seems to be getting a bit personal with you. Nearly all your comments seem to be critical of Mary. If you wish to engage Mary in discussion, I suggest non-rhetorical questions and counter-evidence rather than personal slights.

  81. Uzbek in the UK

    13 Jul, 2012 - 3:48 pm

    Clark
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    Arms race was a choice of soviet government. Following Nuclear deterrence theory there was no need to produce more and more nuclear warheads if critical amount needed for retaliation was produced. In the end USSR ended up with 30% more warheads than US. There was no need or benefit to soviet citizens to keep 250.000 military personnel in GDR (East Germany) and further 100.000 in other eastern European states. There was no need to spend almost 15% of GDP for foreign aid to keep revolutionary movements (that often terrorised its population) alive.
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    Trade embargoes were not very much effective as most of the hard currency revenues came from raw materials exports, oil, gas, metals. These were exported at large without significant reductions. Oil price hike of 1970th was one of the major reasons that kept USSR afloat for another 12-15 years.

  82. The Mad Men really are here.
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    13 July 2012 Last updated at 15:54
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    London 2012: RAF has ‘lethal force option’

    The RAF showed off some of its hardware at a press event on Friday
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    Games security ‘not compromised’
    Are Olympic missiles just for show?
    Olympics missiles sites confirmed
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    The RAF will use “lethal force” if the Olympics are threatened, the Games air security commander has said.
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    Speaking at RAF Northolt in north-west London, Air Vice-Marshal Stuart Atha said a plane could be shot down as a last resort in a “worst-case scenario”.
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    Asked who would give the order, he said: “The highest level of government makes that decision.”
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    A series of airspace restrictions around London and south-east England are set to be enforced after midnight.
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    Typhoon jets and Sea King helicopters are being deployed to RAF Northolt.
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    The prohibited zone will be about 30 miles wide and does not affect commercial aircraft, which fly in established air traffic corridors.
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    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18823653

  83. UzbekUK

    I have actually been on Soviet era housing estates, in St Petersburg, Moscow, Tashkent, Gdansk, Warsaw and Katowice. A few other places also. They are grim. As were similar estates in the UK – which were well-motivated.

  84. Ref outsourcing, Serco have been given the contract to run London’s community payback schemes, part of the probation service.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18827469
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    But earlier this week, the chief inspector of probation for England and Wales, Liz Calderbank, warned about the dangers of contracting out probation services.
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    Writing in the inspectorate’s annual report, Ms Calderbank said she had “concerns” the plans would make it harder to manage medium-risk offenders who commit most serious further offences.
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    She said it would be “regrettable” if services became fragmented as a result of more providers being involved, as this would increase the potential for communication problems.
    ~~~
    Quite so.

  85. Uzbek in the UK

    13 Jul, 2012 - 4:09 pm

    Mr Murray
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    Why then compare possible grimness of Olympic estates to “soviet era Moscow estates” if as you said there are such estates in the UK itself? Why not to compare them to something with what Britons are more familiar, grimness of estates of East London itself for instance. That was the point I was making.
    .
    And also that, that during soviet era estates, as I said, were provided for free, no mortgage, not even nominal payment from tenants. Whereas grim estates in East London cost 25-30 years of hardwork and saving on many other things including having normal family, with children.

  86. Uzbek, I can’t believe that the Cold War arms race was entirely the doing of the USSR. The US/UK/IS have enthusiastically maintained their nuclear arsenal well beyond the fall of the USSR, with no end in sight, and I’m convinced they would have developed that arsenal even if the USSR had never existed.

  87. I remember the Lee Valley from the 1960s. Even the Wanstead end was an open industrial sewer, flanked by a rubbish tip over which some hardy souls shot rats – and, bizarrely, even the odd pheasant. Further south, it served for my own mental model for Magnetogorsk in the rain. Mind you, it didn’t have such organised gangs then. People lived there because they had to.
    .
    Following the money on the Olympics, however, I found this:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2041229/Tory-donor-Jamie-Ritblat-snaps-Olympic-Village-knock-price–costing-275m.html
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    Jamie’s father, “Sir” John, conversely, was a supporter of Blair. Must be coincidence.

  88. Uzbek in the UK

    13 Jul, 2012 - 4:31 pm

    Clark
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    I am not saying that USSR did it entirely on its own. Yes, it was from both sides, but if soviet government was not able to keep up with “bloody capitalists” and as it was obvious that nuclear deterrence was reached and will prevent “bloody capitalists” from staring nuclear war against USSR, why would USSR continue to keep up. Yes, it did its damage on soviet budget and economy overall, but it was done by choice, at least from 1970th and onwards.
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    Accidently Chinese communist were much smarter than their soviet counterparts (who thought that they were superior). Chinese have stopped at some point when it was obvious that US would not dare to start nuclear was against them. (Not only because of this but) but Chinese communists are still ruling and USSR is a history of the last 21 years.
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    One might argue about US/UK/IS nuclear arms development without USSR and so far US was the only nation that used nuclear weapon in war. It is also the fact that US had monopoly of at least 4 years and did not use it against their major enemy.

  89. Another well written thread bang on the money, Craig. Thanks for some of the links everyone.
    .
    The placing of these missiles, as the last option, after an aircraft already breached the no fly zone, shows the reality for the future of the Olympic games in repressive countries.
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    For an aircraft to be shot down over a highly populated Metropolitan area, after the air force failed to attend and divert an aircraft that’s just departed from one of the local nearby airports and was taken over, is a capitulation. Placing these missiles so close to the Olympic site, when ideally they should be halfway between said airports and the possible target site, could be either construed as a decision badly planned, or as a cool calculation for a 911 top up, a hand up for the war on terror.
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    As an ex surface to air missile op/radar mechanic, these in your face siting’s do not make any sense militarily.

  90. Clark
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    If you look at my first post on the matter, you’ll see that I made the fairly uncontroversial observation that politicians do not speak their mind. They act upon instructions, in a corporate manner or a collective manner if you wish.
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    I described the change in the British corporate interest from Arabist to Israeli in the space of about 20 years. I’m sure Craig will remember the Arabist nature of the FCO from his earlier days.
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    That’s quite an important point, especially if someone else thinks they’re all acting in a personal capacity.
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    Mary then challenged my uncontroversial point, by claiming that May had personal interests in a pro-Israeli stance other than pure ambition.
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    Mary then seems to think that May and others will be embarrassed by her pointing out their apparent pro-Israeli stance. Obviously, nothing could be further from the truth.
    .
    The evidence I provide in my last post above indicates that that is obviously not the case, quite simply because the dominant theme in media, politics and business is now pro-Israeli. It’s much more embarrassing and carreer damaging today to be pro-Palestinian, as we’ve seen in the case of Jenny Tonge.
    .
    So you see, I really am being quite objective and counter-evidential about this. Mary, on the other hand, makes what can only be described as a personal argument.
    .
    In such circumstances it’s necessary to challenge that personalised argument, with a rather more objective assessment of the situation. That will necessarily involve some enagement with the personalised argument.
    .
    Which is what I did.

  91. Any connection to what’s coming up at Stratford? Or just routine?
    http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/spectrum/gps-jamming-exercises/300512b
    .
    Home Stakeholders Spectrum GPS jamming exercises Forthcoming GPS jamming exercises Forthcoming GPS jamming exercises, Salisbury Plain, Wiltshire, July 2012
    SALISBURY PLAIN, WILTSHIRE, July 2012
    .
    Dates: Between the 2nd of July and the 11th of July 2012 (Weekdays only).
    Times: 0700 – 2000 GMT.
    Location of MULTIPLE jammers: Land based within 5km of N51 12, W001 58.5
    Frequency: A 24 MHz band centred around 1575.42MHz (GPS L1).
    Total Power: Up to 10 Watts EIRP.
    .
    It is stressed that, as in previous exercises, Safety of Life operations will at all times take precedence over exercise activities.
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    Ofcom stakeholders should contact InfoGPS.Notices@ofcom.org.uk
    .

  92. Goes Bananas

    13 Jul, 2012 - 5:52 pm

    Herbie what you are trying to do with your admittedly cacthy miles wide, millimetres deep idea is convince some stray ‘floating voters’ on the subject of Palestine that the deeply suspect and hypocritical in human rights terms allegiance to the cause of Zionism – that is the religious supremacist expropriation or eradication of the Palestinian peoples and their descendants homes, land, culture and very existance, through lessons in genocide taken straight out of the despots cookbook is just an unalarming phenomena of chance. Allegiance openly bought and paid for, hawked to the highest bidders, banking and monopoly interests, of the majority of politicians of all political parties and all strata of the establishment plutocrats running this dysfunctinal elective dicatatorship we kick against, is nothing we should concern our fluffy little heads about, so superficial is it. Like some fickle brand of sauce preferment, or to suggest that this is some recent state of affairs, some 20-year flip-flop from previous pro-Arab condition, that has never at any time existed. It is a softer line than god gave us this land in some book of fairy tales and we’re his chosen people, the rest of you are just cattle, who we are free to dupe and murder, which is tolerated, humoured, admired by other equally batty exceptionalists –but no less ineffectual. There is no other side to see than the Palestinian side because their cause is right and just and the other not.
    .
    The very existence of CFI LFI and the rest was the death of our illusory democracy, there is no need of further discussion on that point, the issue before us is new democratic structures which keep such would-be power-brokers and abusers impotent.
    .
    Israel in a state of perpetual moral collapse doesn’t have a friend in the world, no friendships based on mutual trust and respect, only faux-friends co-opted or bribed with recycled American taxes – US medical care, education, social welfare axed to buy more jets and bombs to rain death on children playing amongst dirt, eradicable disease and hunger – that kitty seemingly inexhaustible is plundered by ambitious politicians to ensure healthy bank balances, good press and their unmerited rise to places where their mercenary attitudes and lack of human compassion invite bloody disaster.

  93. KingFelix, thanks for the link to Sir John Sawyers. If MI6 is issuing information it is disinformation (always) like the warning about an attack on London on the day we all marched to Hyde Park to try and avert the unholy war in Iraq. If it is real information they keep it to themselves.

  94. Clark Thank you for that. I do not propose to engage in any to and fro on this subject. The mere fact of my calling May a Zionist supporter (easily confirmed by a) her immediate and callous response to the MP about G4S’s expertise in Israel, b) her invitation to visit Israel to speak to Herzliya and c) her horrible treatment of Sheikh Raed Salah based on info from the Community Security Trust) seems to have triggered this response. There is no point in engaging in this convoluted argument and certainly not first hand.

  95. This is just the latest in this sorry tale. It really is a cesspit. But it’s OK folks. We don’t want any empty seats showing do we.
    .
    London 2012: Probe as sponsors’ tickets sold to public
    By James Pearce BBC Olympics correspondent
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    The company at the heart of the allegations is CoSport
    .
    ‘Lethal force’ protects Olympics
    M4 reopens after emergency repair
    MP defends free Olympics tickets
    .
    An investigation has been launched after the BBC found sponsors’ Olympics tickets had been sold to the public for 20% more than their face value.
    .
    This is a breach of the International Olympic Committee’s rules.
    .
    Three of the biggest sponsors of London 2012, Dow Chemical, Acer and GE, have been caught up in the scandal.
    .
    But there is no suggestion of any wrongdoing by any of the companies as the tickets were sold on by a separate agency.
    .
    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18831826

  96. Herbie, I think your point about politicians playing their assigned corporate roles is valid, but Mary only called May a “Zionist supporter” rather than an outright Zionist; there didn’t really seem much difference between your positions, and I felt that the personal thing had gone far enough. I hope that’s OK with you.
    .
    Goes Bananas, I think you’re reading more into Herbie’s statements than is warranted. Please don’t jump onto a “moderation bandwagon”.

  97. Mary: “Home Stakeholders Spectrum GPS jamming exercises” – this could be a response to the method Iran claimed to have used to land that US drone. They said that they overrode GPS with signals of their own, thus “tricking” the drone into its pre-programmed landing sequence. Did anyone see any drones around Salisbury Plain earlier this month?

  98. technicolour

    13 Jul, 2012 - 8:39 pm

    I think that this country is nowhere near Saudi Arabia in so many ways. The ways in which it is – the imprisonment without trial or charges of Tahla Asan for six years here, for example – go largely unnoticed. But the farce of the Olympics is being pointed up beautifully by the Daily Mash. Oddly, Corporate Watch, among others, knew all of this before we ‘bidded’ for the Olympics in 2005:

    “It is,however, the taxpayers who will supply most of the money to host
    the Games – just as in Athens, where the Games are currently thirty
    percent over budget, leaving the Greek taxpayers, who have already
    stumped up £3.3 billion, to find an extra £1.5 billion to support them.
    Other concerns with previous Olympics include the fact that in Los
    Angeles, Atlanta and Seoul, Korea, there was wholesale removal of
    homeless people and criminalising of poverty to make way for the
    businesses. In Atlanta, 8000 people were removed from the streets.
    Community and environmental groups are already making a noise over
    Vancouver ’s pursuit to host the 2010 Olympic Winter Games, with
    critics concerned about the lasting economic, environmental, political
    and social impacts of doing so. While currently, in New York, a
    determined coalition of residents and small business owners looks
    likely to succeed in blocking that city’s bid for the 2012 Games.
    Unless London residents do the same, the way will then be left clear
    for London and Paris to fight it out between them. Bechtel and Jarvis,
    however, are certain to win; as are McDonalds, Visa, and CocaCola -
    just three of the Games’ official sponsors.”

    yet people seem very surprised. I suppose that is the problem with ‘news’ – it is generally, really, quite old.

  99. Sir John Sawyers really should be challenged on how his allegations about Iran’s nuclear programme can be so utterly in contradiction with the most authoritative statements available, from the UN IAEA and the US NSA and CIA. If the evidence remains secret, it’s just the Iraq “Dodgy Dossier” and “Missiles in 45 minutes” claims all over again.
    .
    Hello Technicolour, good to see you here again.

  100. I said it was all advertising:

    In the words of one Whitehall official, the Olympics are a “tremendous opportunity to showcase what the private sector can do in the security space”.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/10/london-olympics-lockdown-2012-games
    .
    I just hope they haven’t scheduled a false-flag event as a live demonstration. Apparently, the original quote is in the Financial Times, but I can’t reach that article.

  101. Clark – wonderful balancing act; much appreciated from someone no good at heights!

  102. Rumours persist that spy drones might be used by the military to monitor events at the London Olympics. I have no intelligence that suggests the rumours are based on firm decisions by military commanders and agreed with the government. I do suggest a question should be asked in Parliament to confirm or otherwise the use of unmanned aerial vehicles or UAV’s to monitor Olympic events in London or elsewhere.
    .
    {http://news.techeye.net/security/unmanned-drones-pose-olympic-risk#ixzz1ypBTpcdj}
    .
    Meanwhile the IOC is still pressured for 1 minutes silence at the Olympic opening ceremony as a tribute for lost lives in the Munich Olympics in 1972.
    .
    http://www.zionist.org.uk/?page_id=750

  103. Mrs May’s tenure is proving to be costly to the nation. When will Cameron have his night of the long knives? He hasn’t had a reshuffle only resignations like those of Fox, Hughne or Laws.
    .
    £225,000 pay-off for Border chief
    Jul 12 2012
    .
    The former head of the UK Border Force received a £225,000 pay-off after accusing Theresa May of undermining him for “political convenience”.

    .
    Brodie Clark was suspended last November when a row broke out over the relaxation of checks on passengers.
    .
    He left his £135,000-a-year post shortly afterwards to launch a constructive dismissal case, saying the Home Secretary had used him as a scapegoat.
    .
    Neither side confirmed the size of a settlement reached in March.
    .
    However, a note to the UK Border Agency’s annual accounts stated: “Mr Clark resigned on November 8, 2011.
    .
    “A settlement payment of £225,000 was subsequently made without an admission of liability or wrongdoing from either side.”

    .
    The accounts say Mr Clark, who had served for 40 years, also has a pension fund worth some £1.47 million.
    .
    He is due to receive £60-65,000 per annum and a lump sum of up to £195,000 on retirement.
    .
    !!
    .
    http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/uk-world-news/2012/07/12/225-000-pay-off-for-border-chief-99623-31381128/

  104. Rothschild and weather control. Worth noting the international currency mentioned.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y796MdZ8GL8

    Please can the Olympics succeed for all the young athletes. Who deserve it.

    4.
    of an exalted moral or mental character or excellence: a noble thought. Synonyms: lofty, elevated, high-minded, principled; magnanimous; honorable, estimable, worthy, meritorious. Antonyms: ignoble, base; vulgar, common.

  105. What a complete and utter b*****d.
    .
    A group of England’s lowest-funded local education authorities has had its bid for extra funding turned down by the Education Secretary Michael Gove. Schools run by members of the group, known as f40, get up to £600 less in basic grant per pupil than the local council average.
    .
    cf
    Turning them down, Mr Gove blamed the economic situation. The group heard the decision just days before Mr Gove announced approval for about 100 new free schools.
    .
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-18827591
    .
    And don’t you think our Olympics minister, Nr *unt has been rather silent on the security fiasco? Not long ago Cameron was saying how well he had performed in that role.

  106. Mary, with respect, I will never understand why you quote the BBC so much. You profess to despise them, you call them “ZBC”, and you’re c and p-ing news that most of us have seen from one source or another during the day anyway. That’s seven times on this thread alone, I believe.

  107. “I just hope they haven’t scheduled a false-flag event as a live demonstration.” — Clark
    .
    I pray not. But they’re rather short of “scary terrorist” activities at the moment and I’d be very afraid they’d arrange one. They’re clearly not above arranging “massacres” in Syria when a UNSC resolution is on the table … the UN said very clearly that the Houla massacre could not be laid at the door of one side or the other. They didn’t have the evidence. And yet, when another atrocity occurs, Hague and Clinton and Co are straight out with the “appalled at Assad” routine. I get so angry I am constantly texting Sky News and asking them why they are indulging in war propaganda. A waste of time, I know. But it’s better than sitting here seething.

  108. George Galloway on Syria
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTuZeHYABaY&feature=youtu.be
    .
    Does my heart good.

  109. I am so glad I am over here in South Sudan rather than in London…I personally do noy give a flying fuck about the Olympics, though I do feel sorry for Craig when he wants to drop into London….maybe best to forget the commute and take Cameron to the beach for a picnic instead !

  110. Biggest ship in our Navy just sailed into this corporate farce that the Olympics has become. The only thing missing are our nuclear subs. Go on Cameron / May, just an eenzy peenzy little Trident , I am sure we’ve got space.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXH_12QWWg8

  111. Nuid I call them ZBC because of their Israel bias in reporting from Gaza and the Occupied Territories and because of their actions at the time of Cast Lead. I quote them mainly when they are reporting UK factual matters. They are usually the first on breaking news so for that reason they are a useful source. Why are you narking on about my input anyway? It is Craig’s blog and as long as he allows me here, I will continue.

  112. The head of G4S appearing on the telly and reeling out his firm’s qualification; “we are an international security company and we are a British company”. Well that explanation is just good enough then, now he can go back count his ill gotten gains, pay the token fine and get into his seat somewhere to watch the games or jet off to isreal to join some of his hired goons to kick some Palestinians around, and get the aggression out of his system.
    ,
    This is really a poor show that when a fuck up of the magnitude G4S has committed is to white wash the shit up with the nationalism card.
    ,
    ,
    Back on Syria saga, yesterday the isrealis were going to attack Syria because of the stock piles of the “chemical weapons” (whatever these may prove to be, there again cordite is a chemical isn’t it?). The “reason” was forwarded as for the prevention of these dastardly weapons from falling into the hands of the terrorists.
    ,
    Note the allusion to the Syrian opposition and darling Free Syrian Army as the terrorists. However today the “unconfirmed reports” (basically loads of bollocks and lies fed to the public but safe that no guilt is attached to the tossers whom are busy propagating the propaganda) Assad regime is moving his chemical weapons to Hums to use on the “rebels” (no longer terrorists).

  113. “They are usually the first on breaking news so for that reason they are a useful source. Why are you narking on about my input anyway?”
    .
    I’m not ‘narking’ Mary. And I get my breaking news elsewhere, which is what I was trying to point out. I don’t come here for “breaking news”. I come here to see alternative sources, opinion and discussion.
    .
    From RT:
    Syrian rebels aim to use chemical weapons, blame Damascus – report
    http://www.rt.com/news/syria-chemical-weapons-plot-532/

  114. An ex SAS close protection agent and trainer working for a British security firm has said that sarin gas precursor chemicals were secured by SAS/SBS commandos in the desert south of Tripoli and loaded on trucks shortly after Gaddafi was over-thrown.
    .
    He has ‘suggested’ these agents could be/are being transported and could possibly be used in Syria as a catalyst for immediate NATO intervention after an emergency meeting of the Security Council was forced to issue a resolution to protect countries bordering Syria. Russia and China would be under extreme international pressure to abstain allowing the resolution to pass and a Syrian exclusion zone implemented.
    .

    He also suggested this plan is real, top secret yet known to the British government, certain top British commanders and the CIA.

  115. I have it on good authority that volunteers are required to work a minimum of a 10 hour shift in order to receive free food vouchers available to all LOCOG paid staff. I also have it on good authority that managers responsible for organizing shift patterns for volunteers, are purposely looking for ways to ensure that volunteers fall short of the 10 hours. So not only are volunteers being exploited by way of free labour, but they are not being fed for the privilege.

  116. Mary,
    Keep on doing what you have been doing. Anyone reading the archives at a later stage could take note of the backdrop of the events taking place concurrent to the topic of the blog under debate. However, it seems that you are drawing the ire of the usual suspects. The cycle of personal criticism has re emerged, until the next time. Fact that any of the would be participants can scroll down and skip comments is going missing. Although it could be argued that the said participants take exception to scrolling down the page, and need a neat and tidy “management summary” provided for them. In this later case Clark ought to be approached and not you perhaps!!
    ,
    ,
    Daniel,
    Not so surprising move there, knowing the fuckwits who are running the show, the depth these will plummet to is an ever deeper depravity and a new record in miserly conduct.

  117. The ketts Independent Alliance has been launched today to an impressive meeting of about 70 people from all over Norfolk. It includes the ex Conservative election agent for Chloe Smith and many others who have been defecting from the Tory’s for month and are now poised to start a new local mandate based alliance.

    I’m not worried about the Kett’s tag, indeed meeting all these people today, and speaking to the ex agent who’s been busy promoting Independent candidates everywhere was a refreshing experience. We were right, the Tory’s were bussing in 300 plus volunteers per day, she confirmed it.
    The idea is to form a loose alliance of Independents that agree to coordinate on issue they find in common locally, with a common five point programme of intent.
    .
    We start NOW, so if I chat less on here and do more, please forgive, but I have to carry on.
    It was a positive meeting and the fact that the chap whom organised had a scurrilous poison pen letter delivered to his house the night before, means that they are rattled.
    Norfolk is going to change next year, especially West Norfolk and South Norfolk, anybody with an open mind willing to help with the campaign is welcome.

  118. Many are missing the point i think..
    .
    The G4S ‘debacle’ is a deliberate false narrative.The truth is the enlarged army presence was the plan all along and the politicos arranged for the G4S supposed fuck up as a cover story in case the public got too worried about such overt militarism.

  119. Mark Golding, that’s very disturbing. We know that Syria and Iran are the only two countries on the US/Israel target-list from 2002-3 not yet totally destabilised. And were it not for China and Russia Syria would already have fallen. The evil of NATO countries has no boundaries.
    .
    Meanwhile we should all be aware of what our weapons do to the next generation and hang our heads in shame.
    .
    http://www.facebook.com/fallujahhospital2012

  120. Depressing for me John Goss and I am also outraged at this constant deception. It is at great risk we can peer into the abyss, that bottomless pit of treachery where human life is a mere conduit for intention. The cabal has been exposed yet that nakedness seems to serve only ridicule to the honest and brave.
    .
    I am not only a rebel, I am a traitor to the Western cause who will be punished because this scheme is irrepressible, relentless, merciless. However I do not want sympathy or comfort, I want support from entities that can halt this madness, people of back-bone as well as influence. Where are they?

  121. Oddly enough the New York Times seems to be the first (??) of the MSM to challenge the account of a “massacre” in Tremseh.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/world/middleeast/details-of-a-battle-challenge-reports-of-a-syrian-massacre.html
    .
    In the course of their ‘report’ they say: ‘although murky, the evidence available suggested that events on Thursday more closely followed the Syrian government account’
    .
    Meanwhile, Susan Rice is tweeting:
    Reports of #TraymsehMassacre are nightmarish – dramatically illustrate the need for binding #UNSC measures on #Syria.
    .
    followed by:
    #Syria regime turned artillery, tanks and helicopters on its own men & women. It unleashed knife-wielding shabiha gangs on its own children.
    .
    and she *knows* this before any investigation at all has taken place!

  122. Yes John -the immediate response is that we should hang our heads re the next generation – and not just about weapons, but about all the other stuff that is being heaped on the heads of our children and our children’s children; and so it goes. Previous generations carried the same burdens.

    Mark G – this will be laughed out of the court I know, but I really believe that the support you call for from “people of back-bone and influence” will come about when sufficient numbers of those without either, become convinced of the need for radical change. The old word for that is prayer.

  123. Nevermind,

    May said it was planned meticulously, therefore the GS4 fuck up was planned.

  124. Mark G and Rose the brave are already among us. Whistle-blowers, like the one whose blog this is, like Bradley Manning and Julian Assange for example. They have their supporters, I like to think a growing group of serious-minded people, who do not want to see injustice perpetrated by their own governments. Tomorrow at least five hundred people will be marching on Sydney Town Hall, they are the confirmed marchers. They are marching against their government in favour of Julian Assange. I wish there were more of them, like the 2 million ignored by Tony Blair. Perhaps some kind of divine intervention can save us from the sickness generated in places like Flushing Meadow. I pray.
    .
    But there is a lot of apathy. Yesterday I posted a photograph on Facebook of a toilet and cistern which was up against a wall outside a local residence making it look like there was a toilet plumbed to the wall facing the road, with a comment to the effect ‘Desirable residence with outside toilet’. The toilet has gone now and was probably waiting removal after having been replaced with a new one. I also posted photographs of deformed babies from the effects of depleted uranium bombing of Iraq. What disturbed me most was that a few people commented on the outside toilet – a bit of base humour – but the more serious photographs were ignored without comment. Either people are not seeing these or do not want to see them. These are the people who need to get involved if those with the power are to have it removed from them. And that’s a big problem. How?

  125. John – How? to keep on doing what you’re doing – raising awareness – plugging away – “to give and not to count the cost, to fight and not to heed the wounds, to labour and not to ask for any rewards save that of knowing….” – the lot of people of good will down the ages.

  126. DonnyDarko, I don’t understand why you’re replying to Nevermind; could you clarify please?

  127. Reports of lack of attendance at protests, lack of response to posts and articles, even Craig’s own long silence followed by his post The Impossibility of Rest:
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/07/the-impossibility-of-rest/
    all suggest that many of us are suffering from something like “Activism Fatigue”; I know that I certainly have been. The dreadful economic circumstances also compound the problem, by making people work longer hours and depriving them of funds to attend protests.
    .
    But the anger generated by being deceived and manipulated by the powerful does not go away. No, it builds up like pressure in a closed vessel. Something will provide the trigger at some point.

  128. And on that note, here’s something that made me laugh:

    “Children warned name of first pet should contain 8 characters and a digit”

    http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/06/08/children-warned-name-of-first-pet-should-contain-8-characters-and-a-digit/

  129. @ All,

    “Martial law Britain” – not because better can’t be done – but because the arse holes from the Royal family down who hold power do not want to think outside the box to find viable solutions for people and planet earth. They are hell bent on manintaining status quo – and it will not work.

    We see the same shit with the Americans provoking the next via Syria into Iran.

    But – some do think outside the box:-

    Bunker Roy: Learning from a barefoot movement
    http://www.ted.com/talks/bunker_roy.html?source=email#.T-ta_

  130. ” the Americans provoking the next ( WAR) via Syria into Iran.”

    BUT EVERYONE ALREADY KNEW WHAT I MEANT TO SAY …

  131. http://www.facebook.com/fallujahhospital2012
    .
    Pathetic truth is its hard to have freinds and family chinwagging jokingly on your facebook wall beside shocking images like those. Its right in ways but is disruptive in others, most people want warned before handling tough material, they want to avoid it most of the time. And there are those who kind of revel in it and broadcast it without discretion – which it may deserve. But with facebook being a platform of social whims and plays, tough truthes dont sit well there.

  132. Courtenay Barnett
    There is no next war, this time around it is World War.
    ,
    Start following the foreign media.

  133. Crab, so why do you suppose Facebook are doing the following?
    .
    http://www.zdnet.com/is-facebook-damaging-your-reputation-with-sneaky-political-posts-7000000828/
    .
    Be careful which articles you click “Like” on!

  134. I loved this talk thanks CB
    Bunker Roy: Learning from a barefoot movement
    http://www.ted.com/talks/bunker_roy.html?source=email#.T-ta_

    Hi Clark i think that is a side effect of FBs tactics for maximum ‘feedback’ on all its carefully named and photoanalysed ‘members’. I dont think they intended to encourage serious debates on it. But you know make of it whatever you can.

  135. Did anyone hear this item about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation this morning? Firstly following the population control summit this week which was funded by their foundation, the Gates are promoting a contraceptive implant which is effective for four years (made in China I think I heard it?) which has not been subjected to the usual tests and secondly another contraceptive which can lead to bone density loss. What a cruel trick to be played on unsuspecting women in poor countries. A woman from Oxfam was supporting this.
    .
    ‘Melinda Gates admits she struggled with her Catholic beliefs before committing to spending hundreds of millions of dollars on contraception and family planning. We discuss what difference this could make with Dermot Grenham from the LSE and Oxfam’s Kathleen Spencer Chapman.’
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01kr7nw#synopsis
    {http://www2.lse.ac.uk/socialPolicy/researchcentresandgroups/populationAtLSE/Studying_PopulationatLSE/Alumni/Dermot_Grenham.aspx} He sounds interesting – a thinker

    .
    Their other gambit in their ‘We rule the world’ scenario is to to fund a $10m research fund at the John Innes Centre in Norwich into grain crops that, like legumes, obtain and store nitrogen from the air thus negating the need for fertilizers. All sounds well meaning but dangerous. Read GM Watch – a very interesting and informative website – especially on Monsanto, seeds, pesticides and herbicides. The latter category includes Agent Orange used to devastating effect in the Vietnam War.
    {http://www.gmwatch.org/}
    .
    By what right do the Gates tell the world what they should do? A dangerous pair.
    .
    PS Thanks Fedup. Appreciate what you say. That is my motivation.

  136. The conversation between Uzbek and Clark has made it to the Medialens message board.
    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1342307743.html
    .
    What do the Russian people now think about the change from communism to capitalism and the fact that most of their resources are being/have been stolen by the oligarchs, many of whom are resident in this country?

  137. Never mind Facebook ‘Likes’. Facebook is actively monitoring all public and private communications sent through their servers and then informing the police of criminal behaviour! FB isn’t just responding to subpoenas, but are monitoring all users and notifying police about crimes the police have no idea of. I don’t have a FB account because of the privacy issues, but even I was taken aback when I read this article: news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57471570-93/facebook-scans-chats-and-posts-for-criminal-activity/
    .
    Do some googling on FB and all the Washington insiders and lobbyists they are hiring. It’s pretty damn obvious the FB are trying to position themselves to become the official US internet ID (and therefore world ID), I can only assume the above article is related to FB trying to score brownie points with the authorities. Although I have concerns about googles size and data mining capabilities, google is positively saintly in comparison to FB. Reuters also has an article about the FB technology and their cosy relationship with the police: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/12/us-usa-internet-predators-idUSBRE86B05G20120712

  138. Counterpost from Medialens on the O’limpishambles as I now call it.
    .
    In case there’s a ‘terrorist attack’ (or even a terrorist attack) on the Olympishambles, a timely reminder, for people to get their heads straight about what might really be happening, as a prophylactic to the usual screeching mass hysteria that’s always whipped up by the presstitutes and and the pocket-pols on these occasions:
    .
    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1342339259.html
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    Mr Jeremy *unt is coming on the Marr programme shortly. He had a torrid and humiliating time on Any Questions on Friday night. The audience was young (a community technical college in Uckfield) and aware. I usually have no time for Starkey who was also on the panel but he was spot on this time. As was Lord Oakeshott.
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    Jonathan Dimbleby chairs a discussion of news and politics from one of the winners of the BBC’s nationwide Schools’ Questions and Answers challenge, Uckfield Community Technology College, East Sussex, with panellists: Jeremy Hunt, Secretary of State for Culture, Media, Sport and the Olympics; Liz Kendall, Shadow Minister for Care and Older People; Liberal Democrat peer, Matthew Oakeshott; and historian, David Starkey.
    {http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01kktms#synopsis} link to the programme for next 6 days

  139. Mary:
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    What I find so incredibly distasteful about all the population control efforts is that they are focusing on Africa, the region with by far the lowest per capita pollution levels. If all the worlds population lived with an environmental impact the average African has, they would be no problem. It’s the American lifestyle that is killing the globe, not the number of Africans. Additionally the facts are that as economic conditions improve, family size decreases. It is beneficial for poor people to have a large family as the family provides a vital support network, if you decrease family size without improving economic opportunities, the poor will suffer even more.

  140. Thanks for that Michael Gove story, its shows how skewed Mr. Gove’s morals are when it comes to preferential funding for the Sedgeford foundation in Beccles.
    Fact is that young people are being neglected, by this coalition shambles, especially those who can’t vote, nobody has them on the radar and they will get preferential attention by the new Ketts Independent party/alliance.
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    This well written article does not mention the unsigned smear letter by a coward, send to Cllr. Gardiner the day before and read out to us. Norfolk’s Conservatives are rattled and their members are leaving the party, including Ms. Smith election agent who says a few things about her, something to mention when it comes to the next round of elections.
    which are?
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    who in the public knows of the Nov. elections for police commissioners? bar the parties, who are all’ objecting and not agreeing ‘with this new layer of local policing, but are eager to stand candidates for the posts.

    http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/rallying_call_to_norfolk_at_launch_of_new_independents_party_1_1446290

    Please, everyone, do consider offering the public an Independent candidate to vote for in Nov.
    What would it mean if there is nobody on this supposedly progressive list standing up for what they muse about and believe in? How much longer can those without mandate fool those who are willingly bend over, head in the sand, how much longer will this stasis of parents last.
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    Are British people concerned about the future of their children, do they want them to live in a 1984 type enslavement and top down dictatorship?

  141. Cheebacow: “…as economic conditions improve, family size decreases.”
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    Precisely. Pushing contraception is just an exercise in guilt displacement, so that the richer populations can maintain their wealth imbalance over the poorer. It’s obvious why the Gateses advocate this.
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    Regarding Facebook, have a look at the linked story. Although the problem in that story is caused by Google, exactly the same problem could occur with Facebook, or any of these sites that try to link together everything each individual does, and then target adverts individually.
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    http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-09-17-n72.html

  142. Imagine what the barefoot movement could do with the type of money which the Gates are willing to pump into dangerously immature GM products and medical commerce ‘solutions’.
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    Cheebachow very good call on facebooks ‘crime scanning’ Its clear facebook is to be discouraged and used only in a limited fashion. I think the web needs a social network which everyone has a right to use anonymously. It kind of exists already as Reddit – reddit facilitates “throw away” accounts, allows anyone to make and moderate their own ‘subreddits’, which can be used as a private or public social “wall”. By being able to facilitate anonymous microblogging and interaction, reddit shows that it was never for ‘legal reasons’ that facebook demanded our details, it was for facebook’s own interests – whatever the hell they might play out to be.
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    Good for you Clark and Uzbek for stimulating the medialens board!
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    Like Nuid, i do sometimes find Marys newstream a bit much, it would certainly get difficult if there where much more than one person doing it. But it works out for me ok because i think Mary links and comments particularly well. So Nuid i support your complaints for a spell, but say generally well done to each of you, thanks and do go on!

  143. Courtney, thanks so much for Bunker Ted. The humour the dedication the women. What a man! No wonder all in the audience were on their feet.

  144. Crab, there was (or maybe, is) a project called Diaspora, to implement distributed social networking. I think the idea is to host one’s own profile on one’s own hardware, whilst also caching friends’ profiles, using public key encryption to ensure that personal details are only shareable under members’ own authorisation. All Free and Open Source. I think it might be gridlocked in some kind of development limbo; I signed up to e-mail updates, and got about two updates in four years.

  145. I checked out Diaspora developement and they have almost no up to date writeups, an invisible user/tester community and are not even in Beta yet! Its nearly a year since i heard about them securing $100000 in donations. I think they are bullshitting.
    Compare Diaspora against ‘ReactOS’ who have been writing a free open source Windows clone for over ten years and are nearly in beta, with a decent community forum, progress reports and constant work on the very demanding programming involved. They put a request out for donations for the first time a few months ago to help them reach beta, and they only got $10,000 so far.

  146. Thought you might like to know what the premier psychopath/war criminal is up to, this time in South Sudan. The Miliband brothers are doomed to obscurity if they continue to associate with him and collude in his self aggrandisement.
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/9400155/Tony-Blair-expands-empire-to-oil-rich-South-Sudan.html

  147. hmm I think my last post got lost, apologies if this ends up being repeated.
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    Clark:
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    If you write down an email address in your US visa application, immigration already checks your account/emails if you are using a service friendly to the govt (any of the big operators based in the US). I believe the Israelis also do this.
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    Crab:
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    GRRR don’t get me started on GM food. We already produce enough to feed the globe, its a distribution problem not a production problem.
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    Reddit is as anonymous as any US service can be (not very). All data that enters the US managed internet is split and monitored by the NSA: http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/05/kleininterview
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    Once the massive new data center in Utah is finished, all this data will be logged indefinitely: http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/exclusive_national_security_agency_whistleblower_william
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    I think this may well backfire on the US. The EU actually takes privacy seriously, and I imagine that many companies from countries other than the US will move all their servers to somewhere less draconian once they realise what is happening. EU governments have already complained of industrial espionage in relation to the old US based Echelon system, and the new system is far more reaching and sophisticated. If nothing else, it will likely make encryption of all data the default thing to do.

  148. ” The Miliband brothers are doomed to obscurity if they continue to associate with him and collude in his self aggrandisement.”

    That is good news.

    Nuid, do you read the Moon of Alabama blog? It is extremely good on the nuts and bolts of the current propaganda offensive. I recommend it to Craig’s readers.
    Interestingly The Guardian is internationally notorious for its appallingly unbalanced coverage of Syria, as it was of Libya. T’m not sure how this fits in with the Scott Trust’s mandate.

  149. Crab: thank you.
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    Chris2: yes, that link is working fine. I’ve spent some time at Moon of Alabama, on and off. I must go back and have another look now. They (he) did a great job in the past on analysing satellite pics provided by the U.S. (State Dept?) of *alleged* tank and heavy weaponry build up by the Syrian Army.
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    Regarding Facebook, I never felt free from observation there and eventually came to distrust them completely. I deleted all content and then my profile. And I never touch a “Like” button on any website anywhere since I read how they operate. It never ceases to amaze me how so many people trust FB with so much personal info.
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    Clark, I loved the story at http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-09-17-n72.html – and have sent it on its merry way to my contacts.

  150. US sanctions preventing Iran from buying new aircraft parts “have left more than 1700 passengers and crew members dead”
    http://is.gd/YcfrAd (New York Times)

  151. You can have several faces, we dont need to carry the same load of concerns with us everywhere to be true. So facebook can be the silly sandpit it deserves to be. im bidding for the right time to get kicked off it, but it has been useful for some old re-connections.

  152. CheebaCow, your comments got queued because they contained more than one link; I’ve deleted the first copy.
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    Crab, thanks for looking into Diaspora. Yes, bullshitting seems likely.
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    Nuid, I found that link on Richard Stallman’s “political notes” page:
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    http://www.stallman.org/archives/polnotes.html

  153. Thanks for the info and those links too CheebaCow. I think state surveillance is one problematic thing -always evolving “out there”, but that FB is so blatantly a joint corporate and state spying venture is more graspable.

  154. Craig, folks, check this out at http://www.london2012.com/terms-of-use/
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    Links to the Site. You may create your own link to the Site, provided that your link is in a text-only format. You may not use any link to the Site as a method of creating an unauthorised association between an organisation, business, goods or services and London 2012, and agree that no such link shall portray us or any other official London 2012 organisations (or our or their activities, products or services) in a false, misleading, derogatory or otherwise objectionable manner.
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    Does that seem normal practice or reasonable to you?

  155. Strategist, no, it doesn’t seem reasonable at all. It’s like writing a book or an article, and saying that no one can quote from it, or even identify it, if they criticise it in any way. It seems tantamount to saying “We hereby legally place our website above any criticism on the entire Internet”
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    It doesn’t look legally enforceable, I’d have thought that “fair use” applies. But I dare say that they have enough well paid lawyers to make a lot of trouble if they feel like it.

  156. I don’t want to relight the Mary-bashing, but just wanted to register my liking for her interspersal of interesting links in the thread. I can understand it’d be irksome if more than one person was doing it, but as that’s not the case, it forms a very useful counterpoint to the general discussion.
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    @Jives
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    Regarding the notion that the G4S was supposed to fuck-up in order that the military could be brought in in the role of saviours, rather than announce them at the beginning to avoid charges of ‘overt militarism’. Do you have any evidence, or is that just a piece of speculation? I can’t square it, really, with waving around all the hardware.
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    Nobody mention it? But re: Olympics restrictions, Che Guevara T-shirts banned
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172430/Bottled-water-long-lens-cameras-Che-Guevara-t-shirts-banned-stadiums-London-Olympic-Games-crackdown.html

  157. Here’s what I think of the “London 2012 Terms and Conditions” restrictions on linking:
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    http://www.killick1.plus.com/home.html
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    That will be my home page for the duration.

  158. “I can understand it’d be irksome if more than one person was doing it, but as that’s not the case, it forms a very useful counterpoint to the general discussion.”
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    kingfelix, I don’t know where you live, but you’ve already said you left Britain? Correct me if I’m wrong. It seems reasonable to assume you don’t have various BBC channels and Sky News (with news headlines every quarter hour) available at the flick of a TV switch?
    Just FYI, Mary’s link about Blair and South Sudan had already gone far and wide on Twitter long before it appeared here.
    And I don’t accept that passing comment on someone else’s input should be blithely described as ‘Mary-bashing’ or ‘Joe-bashing’ or anyone-else-bashing. Mary felt free to comment that she ‘preferred me’ under my old handle, as I was “less sharp, less animus” (or words to that effect) and neither I nor anyone else described her comments as “Nuid-bashing”.
    I have simply been making the point that I don’t come here for MSM ‘news’, especially from the BBC, which gets a thorough ‘bashing’ here on a regular basis as a mouthpiece for the establishment.
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    Clark, your home page made me smile. You’re making me think of resurrecting my blog where I could also link to Section 5.

  159. Goes Bananas
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    It’s important to remind people that 20, 30 and 40 years ago there was in Britain a very open support for the Palestinian plight, even on the BBC, and in media more generally.
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    Younger people may not be aware of that.
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    The reasons for the change in the past 20 years ought to be of interest because it marks the end of the post war consensus and indeed the end of representative democracy as many of us had known it.
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    Most of our current problems and frustrations stem from that change. I don’t think it’s fashion so much as an end to democracy itself, but certainly the fashionistas will be aware of the positions they need to adopt should they wish to succeed in this new world.
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    People like Jenny Tonge, for example, have chosen to remain honest to their beliefs and have suffered in terms of their political career. I don’t think she’s too bothered to be frank, but there you go that’s the way it is.

  160. Got me thinking Danny Boyle could cancel all the corporate extravagant opening goylmpic games and just release one symbolic dove in hope for peace
    Peri stoika style. We all smile as we enlighten and start eating brown bread.

  161. Anyway
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    This gives a good idea of where the corporates want us to go, and it ain’t heaven:
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    http://www.democracynow.org/2012/6/14/breaking_08_pledge_leaked_trade_doc

  162. Had it ‘gone far and wide’ that Save The Children are speaking of a great humanitarian crisis developing in South Sudan as thousands flee from the border fighting and hunger? This is the same Save the Children whose chief executive Justin Forsyth has recently tweeted his congratulations to Gordon Brown (war criminal) on getting a UN job as Ban Ki Moon’s education stooge. He was taken to task by the ever vigilant Gabriele Zamparini on Medialens. Gabriele points up the hypocrisy and lies he finds in the MSM and the in the output of their various servants, lately in the reporting on Syria.
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    Justin Forsyth (@justinforsyth)
    13/07/2012 17:55
    Well done to Gordon Brown for being appointed UN SG special envoy for education. His leadership over many years is impressive
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    Gabriele Zamparini (@gazampa)
    13/07/2012 18:37
    .@justinforsyth congratulating your former boss? Outrageous u doing so as Save the Children CEO. Why? Iraqi children! @IanOxfam @medialens
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    Thanks King Felix for what you say.An appeal – I am finding it really embarrassing to a subject for discussion here. It is not the purpose of Craig’s blog after all.

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    PS Where there is war and conflict for the control of resources, Bliar is certain to be around.

  163. Great scepticism was being expressed this morning by rail passengers on the latest announcement from the ConDems of a £9bn investment in the railways. They felt that as it was so easy for £9bn+ to be spent on a few weeks of sport, why the big fuss about spending the same amount to reduce travel times by a small amount when it is inevitable that the passenger and taxpayer will be coughing up for the bill.
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    Craig spoke of the line he uses being taken over for the duration. The same has happened on South Eastern and others too probably,
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    London 2012: Southeastern publishes new timetable
    Thousands more people will be travelling on Southeastern trains during the London Olympics
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    Businesses ‘will cope with Games’
    ‘Expect Olympic transport delays’
    Olympic Route Network interactive map
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    Commuters using Southeastern trains to and from London have been warned to expect changes during the Olympics.
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    The firm has brought in a new timetable which the government has instructed must give priority to spectators and people going to the Games.
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    It will run from 28 July to 12 August, and from 29 August to 9 September.
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    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18576953
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    PS And don’t dare get into the Olynmpic Zil lanes. £130 fine per transgression.
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  164. It’s hilarious watching the confusion as three lanes of traffic on the M4 merge into 2 just before Hammersmith to provide the Olympic lane but not so funny for the drivers. It’s being called the Zil lane and a £130 fine for transgression. The traffic is now snarled up. The ‘Olympic lane’ is virtually empty. There will be endless shunts as cars suddenly halt to get into the inner lane.
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    The ConDems have put the English Bulldog Boris on to add his bluster to the propaganda. He lies and evades the penetrating questions from the presenter Eamonn Holmes on this latest debacle and the failed olympic security preparations generally. ‘It’s going to be great’ was the message as he stared out at the camera with the tousled hair freshly tousled. He should have been a Shakespearean actor.

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    Zil lanes http://www.standard.co.uk/olympics/olympic-news/london-2012-olympics-first-express-zil-lane-for-games-vips-appears-in-london-7903749.html

  165. Speaking of Iraqi children:
    I thought this was just another wacky story from the USA:
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    “American, Iraqi ‘lawn chair’ balloonists lift off”
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/14/usa-balloonist-idUSL2E8IE2HM20120714
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    but it turns out they are doing it to raise funds for Iraqi children orphaned by the war on Iraq. It’s always good to read about people who seem to care … If we could just get them all together, and organise them to say an even bigger and stronger “NOT IN MY NAME” the next time.

  166. In regards to the pathetic terms of conditions of london2012.com
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    http://www.london2012.com/terms-of-use/
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    Those terms and conditions only apply to the use of their site.
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    You don’t have to be using their site to link to it. Anyone could give you the URL. Clause 5 is worthless dog turd. And pathetic that they can try and dictate how people link to their website
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    I’ve never used their website. I got the terms and conditions from here. I am not bound by their nonsense. ( in legal terms ) I do not understand it. So there’s no legal reason why you cannot be as damning about the Olympics as you like and also link to their website. T&C’s written by incompetent Lawyers IMO
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  167. “Had it ‘gone far and wide’ that Save The Children are speaking of a great humanitarian crisis developing in South Sudan as thousands flee from the border fighting and hunger?”
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    Yes

  168. “For an aircraft to be shot down over a highly populated Metropolitan area, after the air force failed to attend and divert an aircraft that’s just departed from one of the local nearby airports and was taken over, is a capitulation.”
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    The whole clusterfuck is a capitulation, Nevermind. The terrorists have won. They wanted to damage our economy, our society and our democratic governance. Which is what they have persuaded our government to do, with barely a shot fired in the UK. I am awestruck in admiration at the effectiveness of their methods.

  169. Gates Group and Hewlett-Packard have pulled out of ALEC:
    http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/11/corporate_exodus_continues_from_alec_as#transcript
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    And, Bill, if you’re reading this, sincere thanks for supporting the John Innes Centre. Sounds like a genuinely worthwhile project, though I must declare a distant interest… sorry, Mary.

  170. lmfao @ Clark’s site…
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    Getcha ‘lympic souvenirs ‘ere…
    http://www.go-dove.com/en/event-16618

  171. Much as I dislike linking to the MSM, this one’s illuminating:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174034/London-2012-Olympics-10-room-1-shower-75-people-Inside-slum-camp-Olympic-cleaners.html?ICO=most_read_module
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    No sacrifice is too great for the Dear Leader Boris. Even £550 a month for a tenth share of a portacabin and a one-twenty-fifth interest in a toilet. Not stated; the top wage Spotless International Services (lol) are paying the immigrant labour (as the locals would doubtless be envious of the munificence of the salary.)

  172. please forgive my pestering, but the failure of ourselves to help ourselves when we are confronted with these leviathan machinations, is palpable.

    Nobody has cut our heads arms or legs off, we can think and act differently. Are we really saying that party politics has such a hold over us that we are paralysed, incapable of engaging in another tried and tested avenue? Its called KETTS INDEPENDENT ALLIANCE, not shouting, just determined to wake you up.
    Sitting in front of computers commenting all ady long gives one a fat arse and carpel tunnel syndrom. Creating a chapter of Ketts Independents, doing something your youngsters want to do locally, or an activity that fills a mandate voters long waited for under the parties kosh, then that will be a better way to spend you time. And once more, everyone is welcome to copy, join or help.

    http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/rallying_call_to_norfolk_at_launch_of_new_independents_party_1_1446290

  173. You should be getting a couple of F-15′s about now, Nevermind.

  174. “Sitting in front of computers commenting all ady long gives one a fat arse and carpel tunnel syndrom.”
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    Dead right, Nevermind! I can testify to that, but in my case it’s RSI, not carpal tunnel syndrome. I’m on Twitter, passing on links, rather then commenting very much.
    By the way, I’ve passed on your link on Twitter. I have quite a few UK ‘followers’.

  175. Sorry, me again. My previous comment just reminded me: I generally RT Craig’s new posts when he makes them. But a Twitter button on top of every new post would be exceedingly handy. There was one on Nevermind’s link’s page. (It’s very easy to get the code from Twitter and include it – I had one on my own blog.)

  176. @Nuid, that’s a good idea. I’ll see if we can include it in the next tranche of work on the blog :-)

  177. What’s the big deal about linking to the Olympics website?
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    You can point out that the whole thing is a grotesque dystopian corporate tax dodge without needing to link to their site.
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    It’s not like there is any doubt about which Olympics you mean.

  178. Everything’s going as planned anticipated:
    https://twitter.com/KerronClement?tw_i=224799147960709120&tw_e=screenname&tw_p=tweetembed
    Four hours from Heathrow to Stratford? Using privileged lanes? Is this a record?

  179. Thanks for that Nuid, everything helps, and I’m a twitter nonentity, just can’t say things in haiku alone. why is this 140 character limit mandatory?
    I’m just writing some simple policy and see if I can’t get some local meetings organised soon.
    Thanks for all the support ladies and gentlemen.

  180. “By reading this comment you agree to be legally bound to immediately throw your computer out of the nearest window.”

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    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120713/12025919694/olympic-level-ridiculousness-you-cant-link-to-olympics-website-if-you-say-something-mean-about-them.shtml#c60

  181. Here’s a rather long story by Peter “Brokep” Sunde, the former media spokesperson of The Pirate Bay. It seems highly relevant to the attempts to extradite Julian Assange to Sweden:
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    http://falkvinge.net/2012/07/06/aftermath-of-the-pirate-bay-trial-peter-sundes-plea-in-his-own-words/

    “Some probably see Sweden as a country where proper due process of law prevails, or at least exists. Others would very much like to see Sweden as such a country. One thing that this country has shown is, that when the interests of its establishment are threatened, all the branches of government fuse into one and cut any corners needed to neutralize the threat to its establishment, rules and rights be damned.”

  182. I do like the highest-rated comment on the Daily Mail article linked to by Komodo:

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    What is extraordinary about the London Olympics is the extent to which unrestrained greed has blighted our national character. Everything from inflated ticket prices, profiteering landlords, outrageous food and drink prices, the exploitation of the unemployed under the guise of ‘work experience’ and now the extraction of ‘rent’ from the cleaners in order to claw back the minimum wage they will eventually earn shows this nation up for what is now is – a nation of disgusting selfish, profiteering spivs.
    –James, Lancashire.

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    The national mood seems to be dead against the Olympics. I wonder, with such grotesque corporate greed on display during a period of economic crisis, and with the world’s attention shortly to be focused on London, whether this might be the perfect time to harness the near-universal revulsion against said disgusting, selfish, profiteering spivs and make 2012 the first occupied Olympics? Beats sitting around here all day.

  183. Britain has exposed an element within her heirachy that can only be assessed by other States as coarse, cruel, ferocious, heartless, ignorant, inhumane and monstrous considering agent Cameron has authorised a new draft resolution against the Syrian government that can be enforced by military action under Chaper 7 of the UN Charter.
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    States that uphold the decision to veto this resolution have been told that this action would mean a refusal by Britain to extend the mandate of the UN observer monitoring mission.
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    When considering this legal action I suggest one should keep in mind the following facts:
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    1. Based on a small number of field investigations, Human Rights Watch in their report, ‘Unacknowledged Deaths’ have agreed that NATO bombing hit sites where, ‘satellite imagery taken before the strikes.. revealed no signs of military presence that would have rendered the areas struck as lawful military targets.’
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    2. Considering the aftermath of the NATO bombing I quote from Seumas Milne writing in the Guardian who said, ‘Seven months on from Muammar Gaddafi’s butchering in the ruins of Sirte, the fruits of liberal intervention in Libya are now cruelly clear, and documented by the UN and human rights groups: 8,000 prisoners held without trial, rampant torture and routine deaths in detention, the ethnic cleansing of Tawerga, a town of 30,000 mainly black Libyans (already in the frame as a crime against humanity) and continuing violent persecution of sub-Saharan Africans across the country.
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    Today the western-installed National Transitional Council (NTC) passes Gaddafi-style laws clamping down on freedom of speech, gives legal immunity to former rebels and disqualifies election candidates critical of the new order. So much for a British Democracy that has caused a once stable Libya to become a chaotic region where the NTC murders Black Libyans and terrorists groups are becoming armed with guns, ammunition and explosive devices pouring from Libya through porous borders with Mauritania, Algeria and Niger.
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    Has Britain the authority to rewrite UN resolutions against the Syrian government after the genocide in Iraq, an illegal war that murdered so many children, maimed so many babies and orphaned so many teens?
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    The British doctrine invoked and aided to end one bloody horror could become known as the doctrine that gave birth to so many others.

  184. Goes Bananas

    16 Jul, 2012 - 3:44 pm

    @Herbie

    “It’s important to remind people that 20, 30 and 40 years ago there was in Britain a very open support for the Palestinian plight, even on the BBC, and in media more generally.”
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    I’m in my early forties, I did not detect amongst others or have much knowledge myself of the Palestinian’s ever worsening plight, other than that a great historic wrong had been done to them, for which they were blameless, and that common prejudicial and untrue casting of them (natives of the rest of the world outside ‘blighty’) as being incorrigibly querulous and likely to fight with their shadows amongst themselves if left to their own childish feckless devices prevailed. Alongside this was the ‘plucky little Israel, land without people for a people without land, making the desert bloom’ narrative. Miners, Nelson Mandela, Poll Tax and Student Loans, looking for alternatives to or neutering dogmatic religions and the similarly absurd faith cult of bone-crushing capitalism were the burning issues of the 80s and 90s. I do not recall much open support in those times, it took the internet to shunt round the mainstream media information clots and open eyes and minds to the true nature of the Israeli regime’s viciousness, which with technological upgrades to its armoury of terror and repression worsens in its torments and the diabolical intent and end game can never again be disguised or credibly denied. We’ve nourished a monster which now devours us.

  185. Guest, have you seen the other vile,numb-skulled, facistic comments on the Daily Fail article which probably give a better idea of how the majority of the British people think.

  186. The winner is:
    http://www.worldofkronos.com/pics/berlin1936.jpg
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    More here:
    {http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/olympicmascots/popular}

  187. Do we all want it to improve are we all of the s upame ilk?

  188. I find these one-eyed Olympic Teletubbies really creepy, swastikas or none. I know, I know, no one needs tell me about “Illuminati symbols”, I’m just saying. I just don’t see what is meant to be so good about one big eye.
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    Likewise with the 2012 logo that they’re so protective about. Yes, I know some people say it’s supposed to look like “zion”. To me it seems suggestive of all the screwed up packaging that will inevitably end up littered everywhere.

  189. O/T, but a good summary of the reporting of the latest Assad horrorshow here, from the excellent Russ Baker-

    http://whowhatwhy.com/2012/07/16/syria-the-movie-monsters-and-defectors/

  190. I don’t think that’s fair, Clanger. The comment I reproduced is by far the most recommended and you have to go down ten or so comments to find a mention of the feckless and wide-screen TVs. Of course, there is the possibility that looking down on the majority of the British people as vile, numb-skulled and fascistic allows you to feel a sense of smug superiority and perhaps you prefer it that way, but it won’t change anything. People I have spoken with whom you would expect to say all the the things you deplore have actually expressed genuine disgust at what is happening wrt the Olympics. Perhaps you would find ways to build upon that rather than merely dismissing them because they hold views which you find unpalatable.

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