No Justice In The War on Terror 117


The Blackwater mercenaries who massacred 17 Iraqi civilians have been let off by a US judge because they gave evidence under duress – the threat of losing their jobs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/31/us-court-dismisses-blackwater-charges

Yet evidence given by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed during hundreds of torture sessions, including over a hundred sessions of waterboarding, is admissible in the US, torture apparently not being duress like the threat of losing your job.

The US is at the same time going through more angst about the underpants bomber. Get this into your heads; people want to kill you because as a nation you behave in a murderous and arrogant way. That does not justify a terrorist in killing innocent civilians; but killing innocent civilians did not seem to bother the Blackwater boys, or the US armed forces who kill innocent civilians every single day.


117 thoughts on “No Justice In The War on Terror

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  • Larry from St. Louis

    This is the opinion of one federal district court. Its value as precedent applies to that one federal district court.

  • Gordon Bennet

    “people want to kill you because as a nation you behave in a murderous and arrogant way”

    Ah, the usual pathological and racist and deranged USA-hatred of the pathetic group laughingly known as the ‘British intelligentsia’, in truth a parochial and ignorant group of self-appointed gurus who would be lost for purpose if it weren’t for their hatred of the USA and Israel.

  • Gordon Bennet

    “When the US downed an Iranian civilian airliner during the Iran-Iraq war it was a disgusting war crime.”

    More ignorant drivel from angrysoba.

    It can only be a crime if it was deliberate. It wasn’t. It was human error.

  • Jaded.

    ‘I also think that “Larry” (or a buddy) is using about 3-6 names, including those of other posters (e.g. Jaded) — but that’s par for the course given where she’s coming from, IMHO.’

    I’m beginning to think you are one of them!!! 😉

    In my ***humble opinion***, Craig doesn’t seem to appreciate the difference between allowing free speech with people you disagree with and booting off filth that are deliberately attempting to subvert his blog. I have only ever been perfectly polite to the decent and ‘genuine’ folk I meet in life. I know how to talk to the weasels. It’s the only language they understand! What’s more, after doing some good detective work, I actually think they are BNP in disguise.

  • dreoilin

    “I’m beginning to think you are one of them!!! ;-)”

    Jaysus … no you don’t.

    “I actually think they are BNP in disguise.”

    There are ways and means. I’ll do a little detective work myself.

  • Larry from St. Louis

    “What’s more, after doing some good detective work, I actually think they are BNP in disguise.”

    What gave me away? I absolutely have to know!

  • Jaded.

    Lamby:

    ‘”What’s more, after doing some good detective work, I actually think they are BNP in disguise.”

    What gave me away? I absolutely have to know!’

    Never you mind, that’s for me to know and you to torture yourself over. That’s the nasty treatment you get from Nazis like me. BNP get no special treatment. Mu ha ha ha ha.

  • Gordon Bennet

    “That’s the nasty treatment you get from Nazis like me”

    Finally the truth from this Jew-hating scum.

  • angrysoba

    “More ignorant drivel from angrysoba.

    It can only be a crime if it was deliberate.”

    GB: I’m not sure if this is true. It sounds to me like reckless negligence. The plane was a scheduled flight and the crew of the Vincennes had a duty to know of such flights.

    If you want to convince me otherwise I will be open to knowing more.

  • ingo

    Gordonbennet wrote:

    More ignorant drivel from angrysoba.

    It can only be a crime if it was deliberate. It wasn’t. It was human error.

    Gordon, to shoot down an aircraft military or civilian takes more than one person, in an anti aircraft missile base, or from a navy frigatte.

    Without certainty and deliberation this incident would not have taken place.

    Even during the highest alert status, not one single operator should have been able to commit mistakes without the deliberations of his officers, including the captain.

    First of all this aircraft would have been tracked as it left the airspace over Aby Dhabi, IFF, Identification Friend Foe would have been used and a negative response should have reulted in a check with Abu Dhabis/Saudi airspace controllers.

    The altitude of the plane should have been an indication of it being a passenger aircraft, as they fly between 20-30.000feet, a military aircraft would have know of navy patrols and would have diverted instantly as the frigattes radar locked on to it as a target.

    The civilian airliner plowed on in its pre allocated course and was shoot down in a deliberate action.

    As there was a war situation pre-determined airspace for commerical airliners would have been in place and actively monitored by more than one air control centre.

    To fire a missile does not just take a single sailor, they have to be acknowledged, checked and verified by at least two officers agreeing with each other.

    In this case there was no indication of a threat or of an attack, as the US well knew that Iranian military aircraft would have come from the other way not from the Saudi penisula.

    Shooting down any airliner, regardless of natinality, should be investigated, those responsible for shooting at it should have been punished or reprimanded big time, this was a warcrime and always will be, that it was not investigated, and instead called a ‘mistake’ by the US, only amplifies the ill feeling of relatives, who btw. were not all Iranian.

    How do I know? well once upon a time I was partial to cosmic top secret documents that specify NATO’s responses in such, and other, situations. Please refrain from saying that it was a mistake, you are merely supporting a cover up with such statement.

    I maintain that an investigation into this war crime entails the key to a resumption of real diplomatic discourse.

    I am sure that should the US open up this case to international investigation, that Iran will cooperate fully with it, reconcilliation could follow and a different climate, maybe recompense established.

  • manchedave

    ingo — the history of the german POW’s is long overdue.

    Somewhere I have a book on those held in the US –surprising stuff there — the anti- Nazis were persecuted by the Nazis , wth the support of the authorities .

    As usual those higher up were either ignorant ( and really stupid ) or completely indifferent and without scruple .

    T

  • Jaded.

    Gordon Bennet:

    ‘”That’s the nasty treatment you get from Nazis like me”

    Finally the truth from this Jew-hating scum.’

    Gords, all I have done is hold up a metaphorical mirror for you to see yourself. What’s the reflection like BNP man? You like what you see Gords?

  • Jaded:

    Right, everyone in doubt think about this. Craig makes questioning statements about the ‘War On Terror’ and his blog is isntantly attacked 24/7 by a gang of shills. And I mean 24/7! What a coincidence! A 2 year old could figure it all out. They use the tactics of ‘divide and conquer’ and ‘maximum disruption’. However, many of us have seen it and they have LOST. It’s not too hard when they are pretty thick though, so we shouldn’t take too much kudos from this. Read this and weep guys. And they are secretly BNP too, especially that eddie misfit. Ha ha ha.

    This is an excellent video and everyone needs to watch it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ

    This man told the truth years ago and did this interview soon before he knew he was going to die from cancer.

    RIP Aaron Russo.

  • Jaded.

    Oh yes, and Russo is another one of my heroes who was a Jew. Some of my heroes are Jacques Derrida, Jew, who I was honoured to meet before he died; Emmanuel Levinas, Jew, who had relatives that died in the Nazi camps; and Russo, as mentioned, who refused to shut up about the ‘very small sick element’ that wants to run everything through central banks.

  • angrysoba

    “Some of my heroes are Jacques Derrida”

    How could some of your heroes be one postmodernist waste of space?

    When I told my philosophy teacher that Jacques Derrida had died he said, “Good fuckin’ riddance! How’s he gonna talk himself out of that one? What did he die of? Deconstruction?”

    I suppose all these heroes were whacked off by the New World Order, right?

    Or wait a second… YOU met Derrida just before he died…

    I demand a full investigation into this.

  • angrysoba

    “Craig makes questioning statements about the ‘War On Terror’ and his blog is isntantly attacked 24/7 by a gang of shills. And I mean 24/7! What a coincidence! A 2 year old could figure it all out. They use the tactics of ‘divide and conquer’ and ‘maximum disruption’. ”

    Nazi filth has a theory!

  • angrysoba

    “Oh yes, and Russo is another one of my heroes who was a Jew.”

    Nazi filth plays the “some-of-my-best-friends-are-Jews” card!

  • Jaded.

    Keep trying Mr. 24/7 BNP man. I have utterly and completely exposed you and all your buddies. Nice try twat, well no, it was pretty weak actually. It will be plain to see for all that read this blog. You, the Nazi, are the only LOSER. ;-0

    Don’t fret though my son. It’s all ok… 🙂

  • angrysoba

    You can keep rambling into incoherence making ever more desperate attempts to distance yourself from the glaring anti-semitism you’ve displayed on this forum all you want but your Holocaust denial is plain to see with your “just asking questions” approach on another thread and your placing the word Holocaust in inverted commas and your “just mentioning” approach to airport security firms employing Israelis and even your admission that you are a Nazi and an anti-semite.

  • Jaded.

    Yes, you keep gazing into that metaphorical mirror my little BNP friend. All has been revealed to the world and you are now completely exposed like the Nazi you are. I hope you like the bright sunlight. 😉 My work is done on this thread and all goals have been fully accomplished. I’ll leave you to wallow in your pit of defeat. I’m sure everyone will be guffawing at any further futile posts you make that make you look even more dumb, if that’s at all possible. Adios Mr. 24/7 Shill. Don’t fret though. It’s all ok my son… ;-0

  • Barbara

    angry soba,

    do you think he’ll bugger off now all his “goals have been fully accomplished?”

    That would be nice.

    Which part of Japan are you based in?

  • angrysoba

    “do you think he’ll bugger off now all his “goals have been fully accomplished?”

    That would be nice.”

    Maybe he’ll top himself. That would be nicer.

    “Which part of Japan are you based in? ”

    I live in Osaka.

  • [email protected]

    you know now its getting very complecated and its impossible to say for sure who is agressor and who is victim here… i am citizen of israel and i love my country and sure i support it. but when i realise that my country ‘confiscated’ land of palestinian people- i am lost. i am tired of all types of war. i want peace! most of israeli people will support me in this…

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