Hertfordshire Police have issued a statement on the preliminary post mortem results:
There is no evidence of third party involvement and the death is non suspicious. Further toxicology results are now awaited and there is an on-going examination of health problems identified at the post mortem.
Please note, toxicology reports can take some weeks and we cannot make any further comments at on the post mortem, including the problems at this time
If I was the family I would call in an independent pathologist quickly. We all remember the first pathology report on Ian Tomlinson. Sean Hoare may indeed have died from natural causes, though it is unusual with modern communications for someone in their forties to do that with a suddenness that precludes a call for assistance. But unfortunately, the lies police told about Jean Charles De Menezes, the far too convenient first post mortem on Ian Tomlinson, and the lack of any inquest on David Kelly, means that it is no longer possible in this country simply to accept the word of the authorities on such things.
Certainly Craig an independent pathologist is required. I hope the family has the grit to call one in despite their sad loss.
And if the security services did bump him off under an order from a senior twat, then the statement would still have read exactly the same. Like he was going to have a knife sticking out of his back? LMFAO.
P.S. I am obviously being ironic, as in this lovely world of ours people are never assassinated. Illegal wars launched under false pretexts that cost millions of lives sure, but covert assassination of individuals by the security services? No way! 🙂
“though it is unusual with modern communications for someone in their forties to do that with a suddenness that precludes a call for assistance”
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Well, maybe. But see Gerry Ryan’s death, in April 2010. He was 53. That’s only six years older.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1210/ryang.html
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“The inquest into the death of RTÉ broadcaster Gerry Ryan has heard that traces of cocaine found in his system were the likely trigger for a cardiac arrhythmia that resulted in his death.”
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He was found when his partner went looking for him the next morning. He was said to have had “a few drinks” the night before.
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Can’t argue about the independent pathologist, though. Makes sense.
Whilst agreeing an independant pathologist should be called if you are saying “though it is unusual with modern communications for someone in their forties to do that with a suddenness that precludes a call for assistance” I’m not totally in agreement with that. A friend of mine in his thirties was discovered dead in his flat about and he had a phone. Do you know where he was found, if it was in bed I’m not surprised he couldn’t call anyone. A heart attack or stroke would normally incapacitate someone quite quickly, basically I think more information is needed before jumping to conclusions.
Yes, let’s all wait to be spoonfed more information. I don’t know about anyone else, but i’m still holding out for some WMD to be found. Wooohoooo!
BIG HINT – See Craig’s previous post.
What is remarkable is the timing. It must have given pause for thought by any current or former Murdoch minion, who might have been thinking about telling the truth.
Paul,
You seem to be mistaking unusual for impossible. Of course it is possible. But it is certainly not usual. This is getting a bit macabre, but most heart attacks are not instant onset and immediately paralysing. And yes, I know that some are.
I think some people are missing the most important point…He died at this time!!!. No matter what you think, what were the odds of that happening. He can`t give evidence against NOTW or anyone else now, he was not under oath when he said the things he did will be the argument of the NOTW lawyers in court, what he said on film or statement is inadmissible evidence…How convenient!.
probably giving my imagination too much leeway here but I read this http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/georgegalloway/2011/07/cameron-may-still-have-to-foot-the-bill-for-scandal.html
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yesterday and now wonder if anyone ran a gieger counter over that white powder
Sean Hoare certainly believed that if were to died when he did it would be because he had become a target of “someone from the Government coming to get him“.
Suspicious death toll mounts..read this
Christopher Shale murder linked to that of Dr. David Kelly
With Shale “going wobbly” on the Conservatives, it was feared that he might reveal the dark past of Tory involvement in nuclear weapons smuggling, something that helped seal his fate. The Tory connection to nuclear weapons smuggling is so sensitive, British intelligence insiders believe that, if revealed, Cameron will be forced to resign and his deputy prime minister, Liberal Democrat Nick Clegg, will move into Number 10.
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http://blog.inoodle.com/2011/07/christopher-shale-murder-linked-to-that.html
I wonder if activists could see if Ian Tomlinson’s family and support group want to get in touch with Sean Hoare’s family, and if so, arrange it. They have been through all this, and may be able to help.
http://www.poisonedlove.com/untraceable-poisons.php
Christopher Shale murder link to Dr. David Kelly
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Shale’s death in the same manner as Sean Hoare requires more toxicology and histology tests after postmortem.
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Agent Cameron’s longtime friend Christopher Shale had decided to talk about a Tory scandal dating from the late 1980s and early 1990s. Agent Cameron had visited South Africa in 1989 on a trip financed by the South African armaments company Armscor. It was the same year that South Africa began dismantling its nuclear weapons program.
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The British Army veteran and MI6 seconded operator Shale went to South Africa after many trips to Rwanda under UKaid. His experience lead him to establish many links with the ANC fighting apartheid. He met up with David Kelly while he was charged with overseeing the transfer of South Africa’s nuclear weapons and other nuclear materials to Western hands from South African nuclear weapons stocks at the Pelindaba nuclear research center, near Pretoria.
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Dr. David Kelly was found dead from a reported “suicide” at Harrowdown Hill Oxfordshire, about a mile away from his home on July 17, 2003. The suicide allegation was rejected by a number of British experts and politicians, including Norman Baker, the Liberal Democratic MP for Lewes.
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Shale became aware of Agent Cameron’s role in trafficking (re-selling)on the international black market of South African nuclear weapons and technology that was entrusted to Britain and the United States by South Africa’s apartheid government, led by President F. W. DeKlerk.
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Shale, was familiar with Agent Cameron’s role in the re-selling of South Africa’s nuclear materials, with the proceeds going into the political coffers of the Conservative Party. Kelly and Shale were reportedly both aware that some of the South African nuclear weapons technology ended up, via an international arms smuggling network, in the hands of North Korea, which tested a nuclear bomb on May 25, 2009.
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Agent Cameron feared that Shale might reveal the dark past of Tory involvement in nuclear weapons smuggling, something that helped seal his fate. The Tory connection to nuclear weapons smuggling is so sensitive, MI5 believe that, if revealed, Agent Cameron will be forced to resign and his deputy prime minister, Liberal Democrat Nick Clegg taking over.
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David Kelly knew of nuclear weapons proliferation involving three South African nuclear bombs assembled with the help of Israeli nuclear scientists at the covert South African nuclear weapons facility at Pelindaba nuclear research facility, near Pretoria. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors who visited Pelindaba and the state-owned Armaments Corporation of South Africa (ARMSCOR) Advena nuclear facility near Pretoria in 1990 and 1991 were tricked into believing that South Africa’s nuclear weapons had all been dismantled by the outgoing apartheid regime. However, three South African nuclear weapons were reportedly sold to ‘private investors’ with the up-front money coming from British government coffers.
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Three weapons were to be shipped to Oman with an additional three nuclear bombs to Chicago for covert storage at a furniture warehouse, a CIA front activity. The fissile material from three South African bombs that made it to Chicago was later extracted at the Argonne National Laboratory, 25 miles southwest of Chicago. However, the three other bombs in Oman ”disappeared” en route to Chicago. The British official who was in charge of the warehousing of the weapons in Oman was David Kelly.
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There are indications that one of the bombs was eventually sold to North Korea.
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Some information extracted in good faith from WayneMadenReport.com under the open license agreement. The full report is Copyright© 2011 Wayne Maden.
Agent Cameron in SA obliterating evidence – with Shale and kelly dead (PBUT) he may deny everything.
They will never acknowledge that the UK state commits domestic assassinations. Now that info of yours, Mark, is very important. It’s clear that if Shale was topped by either the CIA or the SIS, it was not because he criticised Tory Party image/recruitment but if he was involved in, or was aware of, nuclear trafficking. If this is the case, then we’re deep into Karen Silkwood territory. Oh yes, if it’s true, for that, for something nuclear or related to the arms trade, the whores would murder their own mothers at the drop of a hat. But don’t you mean, ‘Wayne Madsen’? You need to become a member of the site to access the report. Great site, though.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20110708
it is the undue haste at which the police are arriving at their conclusions that pricks the ears ..
Sorry Madsen apologies – if true explosive Suhayl and exceedingly frightening.
Mark,
Wayne Madsen is up there with Webster Tarpley.
Forensic pathologist should check for hypodermic syringe marks in the external auditory meatus. It’s an excellent site for injecting lethal drugs as there is a high probability that the puncture wound won’t be detected.
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Thanks Scouse Billy – I was not familiar with Wayne until recently when his report seemed to interlock with certain other classified information I had seen in passing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2008/apr/15/4
http://www.scotland.com/forums/scottish-politics/22473-mysterious-death-willie-macrae.html
With all this excitement of shaving foam etc, let’s not forget the laptop, ‘phone and notes found in a bin.
“The more we study the methods employed by the Secret Powers behind international affairs, the more obvious it is to see that they make private assassinations look like accidents or suicides; sabotage look like carelessness, errors of judgment, and unintentional blunders committed due to excusable circumstances.”
William Guy Carr, 1954
http://www.lovethetruth.com/books/pawns/09.htm
Maybe this is how Gareth Williams was killed. Killed by his own organisation because he didn’t think it was ethical to produce software to allow MI6 to gamble the world’s financial markets with “insider trading” fore knowledge.
I am sitting thinking tonight, what am I thinking…There must in the universe be billions or at least millions of planets, there must be one where real sane intelligent life exists, one by definition that doesn`t have Blair`s, Cameron`s, Murdoch`s and all the other evils that exist on this planet.
I think the accountant, Andrew Ramsay, whose skull was found in the Firth of Clyde, got knocked off too by MI6 because he knew too much about the intelligence services’ involvement in multi-million-pound “carousel” fraud.
Just over ten years ago I heard that there were custom viruses that can be made to attack just one individuals DNA and kill them, no one else would be harmed by it, all that was needed was a sample of that individuals DNA to make the custom virus. It is undetectable in any standard forensic examination.
“Just over ten years ago I heard that there were custom viruses that can be made to attack just one individuals DNA and kill them, no one else would be harmed by it, all that was needed was a sample of that individuals DNA to make the custom virus. It is undetectable in any standard forensic examination.”
If you’re looking for idiots who would automatically buy into that, you’ve come to the right place.
YugoStiglitz
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It was said on “Question time with David Dimbleby” around the year 2000, by one of the panelists.