US Defence Review 65


Seldom has so much PR hype been given to anything as meaningless as Obama’s US Defence Review. There will be no drop in US military spending, just a smaller increase than previously proposed. The move to less grunts and more zapping from drones and eventually satellites has been underway for years and is simple continuation of technological development. The doctrine of a “right” to intervene anywhere in the World has not changed. The rhetoric is stepped up on a new – and totally pointless – Cold War with China that will keep the military-industrial complex in its dominant position to exploit US society for the next half century. In short, nothing has changed.


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  • Smeggypants

    @Mark Golding who says: “On 15 September 2001, soon after the towers fell, the Bush NeoCons planned a series of wars/interventions: Afghanistan and Iraq, Libya and Syria, Sudan and Somalia, and ultimately Iran.”

    Actually the plan to attack Iraq goes back to at least 1996 when the neocons published this …

    A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm

    http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm

    I think you’ll find after a bit if research that the plan invade Afghanistan also pre-dates 911

    911 was closer to a Pearl Harbo[u]r than many think.

  • Mark Golding - Children of Iraq

    Fedup said,
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    “In fact a troop of baboons would appear to be far more rational than we the homo sapiens if we are judged based on the repetitive cock ups and mistakes quotient. ”
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    Homo sapiens are on a path of self destruct. We are in fact ‘dead ducks’ condemned by an overwhelming greed so consuming it has broken the human bond necessary for survival. Homo sapien has become selfish and the evidence is in plain sight. The wanton murder of children in war and the millions left to starve will eventually seal our fate. Even venerated family covenants are now broken by jealousy, covetousness, resentment and spite.
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    Homo erectus, Homo neanderthalensis, Homo floresiensis survived by community associations ensuring meat to sustain energy and heat from building a fire that provided warmth from cold and warmth as compassion and affection from communication and collaboration.
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    We have become enslaved, dominated and disenfranchised by our own invention, money; money has destroyed our compassion, specie is the destruction of our species by resource hungry unnecessary wars; our WMD guarantees the annihilation of Homo sapien.
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    The surviving few or Homo peacenthis will rebuild our world by mapping all of earths remaining resources to share in a renewed sustainable world-wide collaboration dominated by a love for life so precious that death becomes abandoned.

  • Brendan

    The image of Barack Obama spouting lies, with large psychopathic looking men hovering in the background, was a troubling one. This US President can say anything eloquently and persuasively, and none of it means anything. I used to laugh at the Republicans, who hate him, and wonder what their problem was. I still laugh at them – because Obama is actually a Republican, and the policies he is implementing are neoliberal – but I now see what bothered them about this president. Obama is simply not to be trusted, his lies and distortions are routine, and the believers simply won’t see the obvious. I’m not trained to make a diagnosis, but if I were to hazard a guess, Obama has some form of narcissism, or if not, certainly he is a man of huge character flaws.

    Politicians should be subjected to psychological profiling, and should routinely be forced to submit to therapy from a trained professional – and those with too many issues should be removed from office. This gives a lot of power to the psychology professionals, which is not a good thing in itself, but it seems to be a much needed democratic compromise. Blair, who appears to be a genuine bona-fide psychopath, would have been found out early, I’m quite sure.

    I note with weary disdain that our MSM are swallowing all this BS. They always do. It’s deeply depressing, and more than passing odd.

  • Jives

    Brendan.
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    “I note with weary disdain that our MSM are swallowing all this BS. They always do. It’s deeply depressing, and more than passing odd.”
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    Indeed,however,it’s become increasingly clear to me these last few years that the MSM aren’t just swallowing the BS they are in fact an intrinsic part of the nauseating game.

  • Smeggypants

    Jives says – “Indeed,however,it’s become increasingly clear to me these last few years that the MSM aren’t just swallowing the BS they are in fact an intrinsic part of the nauseating game.”
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    just research some WW1 propaganda, for example, and you’ll see they always have.
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    He who controls the press…..

  • CheebaCow

    Indeed, the media has long been relied on to support the war effort. Although levels of support have certainly varied at different times, undoubtedly the US media is currently exceedingly complicit in the ongoing US wars. Glenn Greenwald wrote a great piece on war journalism just the other day, one of the better articles I have read recently (IMO Greenwald is in the top tier of US commentators). Here are a couple of choice quotes in the article:
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    US Gen. McChrystal said of the Iraq war: “We co-opted the media on that one”.
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    Ex White House Spokesmen (under Bush) Scott McClellan said the press had been “complicit enablers”, failing their “watchdog role, focusing less on truth and accuracy and more on whether the campaign [to sell the war] was succeeding”.
    salon.com/2012/01/06/michael_hastings_on_war_journalists/singleton/
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    The whole article really lays bare the sorry state of US media.

  • Michael Culver

    As to the Media I notice Genocide Ali Campbell he of the dodgy dossier infamy is being gently reintroduced to us all.A two page spread in the Guardian this saturday,exquisitly nauseating re: his bouts of depression and how he is coming to accept them and his agony over Gould’s cancer.All this from a man who should be tried at the Hague along with his thieving narcisstic psychopathic ex boss and indeed that whole cabinet.Still Kuala Lumpur has let the world know what s what.History is not going to be rewritten just yet.

  • Louise

    The real reason for the current US wars

    The current wars are all about the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation spreading and including Iran, India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. It would give the SCO, especially members China and Russia, the ‘top of the hill’ position and half of the worlds oil and gas. The US wants to destroy this group before it can grow because it would put a very powerful group on the doorstep of its most important resource – oil. All the noise about Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden were just an excuse. It would have been difficult for the US to announce that it was going to invade Afghanstan and Iraq for oil and power and the ‘reset button’ with Russia would have looked even more of a lie than it obviously was.

    Over the last decade the US/Israel has tried to start a war between India and Pakistan, which would include the Afghans fighting on the Pakistani side, so that the US could build permanent military bases in Afghanistan whilst the Afgahns were out of the way but the war has failed to take off, probably because it was foreseen because many people are onto America real strategy.

    The US/Russia 2008 ‘reset button’ was the same game plan as the deal the Germans did with Russia before WW2, both times it was done to keep the Russians subdued while they lost their sphere of influence. The Russians woke up last time and joined the allies against Germans in WW2. I have a feeling the Russians are totally aware of what is happening this time as well.

    If the US can start civil wars in several Middle Eastern countries it will destroy their economies and make them easier to break up. This is especially the case with countries that Israel would like to take over. The drugs being grown in Afghanistan are the same ploy the British used in China – destroy a country with drugs. Also Middle Eastern countries with ‘terrorists’ will have poor economies so they will not be able to compete economically with Israel.

  • Uzbek in the UK

    @ Louise.
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    It seems quite interesting but at the same time quite single sided review. Well you are absolutely right that as in the last 5000 years of Human Civilisations this time it is yet again all about money, resources, power and influence.
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    If you look quite carefully at SCO you will see that this organisation represents quite ambitious claims of China towards regional dominance. But at present this organisation has quite limited objectives and what is even more importantly amorphous membership and quite unstructured relations between its members. There is no secret for instance that there are quite difficult and to some extend conflicting relations amongst Central Asian members of this organisation not to mention that Russia is forced to play a role of ‘younger brother’, the role which with Russia is not very comfortable. As more China getting influential as more it will bring it into the conflict with the rest of the current members of the SCO.
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    Now look at your suggestions that this organisation could include nations like India, China and Pakistan. Are you serious? India in the same boat as China and Pakistan? For how long? What type of common foreign policy objectives could these countries have?
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    And the last point on this is that at present there are quite serious concerns in Russia’s ruling circles that in the next 10-15 years China will represent the most serious challenge to Russia. If you look carefully at the map you realise that on the east side of Ural mountains Russian population is under 20 million. That is vs over 150 million of population in Chinese regions that borders with Russia. Some sources state that at present in Russian cities like Khabarovks and Vladivostok as well as number of smaller Russian towns population of Chinese workers comprise of 10-20% of the population and that in some administrative departments, police and business need to employ Chinese speaking staff. With declining rate of population in Russia and particularly in the Eastern regions of Russia and with growing Chinese immigration Kremlin, although at present not openly, but quite seriously concerned with the ‘Peaceful Rise’ of China and its expansion to under populated and rich with resources Eastern regions of Russia. Is not this another serious blow towards SCO?

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    I quite agree with all the comments about America’s defense cuts being hardly anything more than campaign rhetoric, but I cannot agree with it taking more interest in what is going on in Asia as it has been up to its ears in it since the end of WWII.

    What about the Korean War, and cutting China down to size before agreeing to stopping the fighting? Then entrance into the Vietnamese civil war in the hope of dividing and ruling all its adversaries – what finally made the Soviet split with China permanent.

    And since the end of the Cold War, Washington has been working 24/7 to keep any accommodation between Japan and China occurring. It does what is necessary to keep any settlement of the Formosa problem while keeping its forces on Okinawa and Japan no matter what.

    Then Washington has used its space weapons against China, so that it is continually confronted by floods, and then in 2008 it took out most of its underground nuclear weapons facilities by the earthquake it caused in Sichuan in May 2008.

    Since then, it has stoked up the problems with North Korea, seeing to the sinking of the South’s destroyer Cheonan, and hoping that this would force the new, much more independently-minded Japan to continue to follow the lead from Washington.

    And when it didn’t, the Obama administration had the USS Jimmy Carter trigger the offshore earthquake which resulted in the devastating tsunami which has cut Japan largely down to size.

    The tsumani was a repeat of what the USS Jimmy Carter kicked off southwest of New Zealand just before Christmas 2004 to get the Muslims around the Indian Ocean to shape up too.

    Washington has always had Asia in igts sights.

  • nick

    Cheebacow wrote:

    As for Taiwan, I do feel bad for the residents, but isn’t it US policy that created the situation and not Chinese policy? Surely the current situation when viewed in an historical context is very artificial. If it weren’t for the US messing with internal Chinese politics, Taiwan as we know it wouldn’t exist. I would also argue that China re-establishing control of Taiwan needn’t be a blood bath. Hong Kong has remained peaceful since China took over.

    But Hong Kong had previously been part of China, most Hong Kongers view themselves as Chinese, Hong Kong was not a democracy but a colony and the UK only had a lease, not ownership. How can Taiwan be taken over peacefully when it’s a democracy and the majority of its citizens (which is what they are, not ‘residents’) favour the status quo for now and eventual full nation status? It was never a fully-integrated part of China, and it’s not anyone’s colony now, but a fully-functioning de facto nation state. There is no recent precedent for a modern democratic nation to be assimilated into a dictatorship, and it couldn’t happen peacefully unless the citizens of the democracy voted for it.

    I also don’t see how Taiwanese citizens are supposed to feel more inclined to support being taken over by a nasty ‘Communist’ dictatorship just because the US supported their being taken over 60 years ago by a nasty right-wing dictatorship.

    The democracy movements in Taiwan and South Korea made huge achievements, in some ways even more impressive than the democracy and solidarity movements in East Europe: largely peaceful revolutions setting up modern constitutional democracies and — amazingly — staying on friendly terms with the global hegemon that had backed their respective dictatorships from WWII up to the 1980s. I don’t know how decent people on the left can ignore all that and advocate the end of democracy and human rights in Taiwan.

  • Uzbek in the UK

    @ Trowbridge H. Ford
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    Agree with you that US was always present in Asia. But during Cold War Asia was rather periphery of US attention. China was populous but also economically underdeveloped. India although was allying with USSR but at the same time due to its economic underdevelopment and its involvement in regional conflicts did not represent significant danger to the US. Most of US attention was in Europe with Middle East and South America being also amongst great importance to so called US interests. And then Soviet intervention in Afghanistan, economic development of China, as well as economic development of East Asia in general turned US attention to the region.
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    It is projected that in the next 10 years maritime trade over Pacific Ocean will overshadow trade over Atlantics. Economic and political power as well as human resources is shifting from Europe to Asia and US is shifting its interests along this.
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    And also could you please provide any sources to suggested US space weapons involvement as well as to the suggested US Navy involvement in what is thought to be natural disasters?

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Thanks, Uzbek In The UK.

    Glad to supply sources about my claims regarding America’s ability to make earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, and other associated disasters.

    For what happened in Sichuan, here is the best article, but my other ones in the 16-part series, and it’s not finished yet, should also be read:

    http://cryptome.org/0001/usa-disaster8.htm

    The best confirmation about their basic validity is that John Young’s cryptome site posted them all, and he agreed to have a private meeting with me on June 9, 2010 – what I thought would be a nice lunch. Instead it was an intelligence meeting on the banks of the Hudson, and far away from anyone where he asked me why and how I was writing the series.

    He obviously thought I was someone’s spy, most likely China’s, or I was getting leaked information from one of America’s axis of evil. Of course, his suspicions were absolute rubbish, as I just arrived at them by finding real information in open sources.

    Still he tried to get me to confess by telling me that the Agency was trying to kill me again, and it was, in the hope that I would break down or make most damaging confession. Of course, I just expressed my surprise of their still trying to kill a law-abiding American.

    Young still continued posting the articles in the hope that I would reveal something damaging, but I never did.

    He did stop having anything to do with my work when I finally talked about his being a deep Agency agent, and its attempts to kill me.

    While the activities of the USS Jimmy Carter are discussed in a earlier one in the series, maybe you might find it easier by just using this link:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/10/02/how-uss-jimmy-carter-blew-apart-the-pacific-ring-of-fire/

    The USA, the way it’s going, will soon surpass Hitler and Stalin in its murder of innocents.

  • Mark Golding - Children of Iraq

    The Shanghai cooperation.
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    I mostly agree with Louise, the SCO is more than a forum for central Asians to realign with Russia and China. The goal is a new model of geopolitical integration reflecting China’s concern over Washington’s “overbearing strategy of encirclement and suffocation” and Russia’s turned up nose and contempt for NATO.
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    Interestingly Britain and America devised a plan called the ‘war on terror’ a very clever way of ensuring a benign cooperation by promoting Islamic extremism complete with bombings and shootings in China, Russia etc as a means of undermining security. The security threat posed by the proliferation of drug trafficking and competition among drug networks is another limiting factor towards stability and growth of the SCO. A US role in Afghanistan, an SCO observer, covets poppy growth. The internal fragility of states in Central Asia means that they are vulnerable to external and cross-border threats, and are susceptible to external offers of protection and outsourcing of security to larger powers.
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    With the ‘death’ of Bin Laden and a sustained skepticism and suspicion towards Israel’s ‘war on terror’ concept, the absurd demolition of the towers, the ‘Arab Spring’ and Israel’s belligerence, Britain and America are having to wash some of their dirty linen and are currently develop a new concentrated strategy in Asia especially as Iran, another SCO observer is waiting in the wings for full membership.
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    The SCO charter lists basic principles such as the sovereign equality of states and the rejection of hegemony and coercion in international affairs.
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    British strategy has worked so far, forcing the SCO to prioritise security challenges: terrorism, separatism and religious extremism, all of which are inspired by China’s concerns. These threat perceptions are shared to an extent by other members, but containment of Islamist rebel groups capable of acts of terror is the most relevant for all. To address the threat, the Regional Anti-Terrorist Structure (RATS) was established by the SCO in 2004. The other threats that the ‘Shanghai Six’, the name by which SCO is informally known, treat with increasing seriousness are drug trafficking, organised crime,energy security and health epidemic security, these are resource overloads stunting SCO growth.
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    As far as the maintenance of regional peace and security is concerned, the SCO does not have a mandate for peacekeeping, nor does it offer a collective security guarantee to its members. Its mandate includes cooperation on security matters, such as measures to combat illicit proliferation of conventional weapons and the establishment of a rapid reaction capacity to regional crises, but does not commit SCO member states to collective defence if a conflict unfolds on the territory of one of them.
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    This collective defence will evolve however together with a dynamic economic agenda of cooperation that could well mean security guarantees, a new financial system and an energy club.
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    The Chinese side actively promotes cooperation in culture, sports, tourism, science and technology, in the words of President Hu Jintao, ‘to consolidate the social basis of growth of the SCO.’
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    By its sheer presence, even without much activity, the SCO projects an image of strength – or of a grandiose geopolitical bluff. However, given the legacy of the Cold War, large armed forces and energy resources, Russia and China have the potential to engage in geopolitical rivalry against the US, for which the SCO could provide a platform. There are already moves by the SCO major powers that are intended to challenge the US domination of world affairs. In the account of Dmitri Trenin of the Carnegie Center, China challenges the US through the very fact of its phenomenal economic growth and the gradual formation of a China-centred pole of gravity.
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    Iran, Pakistan and India have observer status but are closely involved in political consultations and discussions about energy cooperation. The US ensured cut price nuclear cooperation with India securing mutual trust, a relationship it would not want to endanger.
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    Pakistan is an energy corridor and the recent closure of the US supply route to Afghanistan and US drone activity across its borders, together with a rationalisation of Islamic terrorism and attempts to resolve the Kashmir issue has smoothed the hostility of SCO members to full membership.
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    Iran have moved closer to full membership as Beijing and Moscow have remained united in their hostility towards Washington’s efforts to isolate Iran. Russia having completed the Bushehr reactor and given Iran the blueprint to build the s-300 air defence system. From Iran’s perspective, membership of the SCO seems to be seen mainly in terms of strategic and diplomatic benefits, as well as favouring cooperation in the energy sector. As far as regional security is concerned, Iran’s role in the SCO would be combating terrorism and the trafficking of narcotics.
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    Iranian Ambassador to Moscow Seyyed Reza Sajjadi has said Iran and Russia have turned to their national hard currencies instead of the American dollar in reciprocal trade exchanges.
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    Sajjadi said that the proposal for the replacement of the US dollar with the Iranian rial and Russian ruble was raised during a meeting between Russia’s President Dmitry Medvedev and his Iranian counterpart Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on the sidelines of the 11th meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUKbNMurw20

  • wendy

    looks as if that Iran war is a bit closer with USA and UKL carriers making their way to the Persian Gulf

  • Mark Golding - Children of Iraq

    Thanks for that link Wendy – are the Americans coming to their senses? Not really – Britain has convinced America that an ‘incident’ in the Straits of Hormuz could preempt a ‘strike’ on Iran. I have reminded Iran of HMS Liberty and the ensuing smoke-screen and veil of secrecy that followed.

  • Mary

    Did anyone see this on HMS Daring which is being sent to the Strait of Hormuz! Like something out of the Navy Lark. Better luck this time.
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    UK’s HMS Daring: A moving target for Iran
    Mon Jan 9, 2012 5:10PM GMT
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    The warship, the UK’s Royal Navy is dispatching to the Persian Gulf in yet another act of stupid sabre-rattling against Iran, is not so advanced as they have been propagating it to be.

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    Earlier, on Saturday, British media outlets widely covered a report by the Daily Telegraph, saying that the Royal Navy is to send its “most formidable warship HMS Daring” to the Persian Gulf region for its first mission.
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    Those outlets tried to paint a grand picture of a warship touted as the most advanced of its kind in the world with extreme radar tracking and maneuvering capabilities that bumped against a tug on her way to the Southampton port in September 2010.
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    The much-talked-about warship was damaged as it could not even get around the tug, which lost power to its engines, blocking the warship.
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    Again, the so-called Type 45 destroyer had to go into the dock with major engine problems on November 2010. The warship was temporarily left adrift as its engines’ failure exacerbated and the Royal Navy was forced to be towed to Canada for emergency repairs.
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    Meanwhile, the UK government is beating the drums of war against Iran at a time when its armed forces including, the Royal Navy, are stretched thin by budget cuts.
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    An earlier report warned that the Royal Navy has been left without carrier-borne strike fighters to the extent that it cannot even field a Frigate or Destroyer to patrol its home waters on a full time basis.
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    Actually, as the report reiterated, the seas surrounding the British isles have been left without a so-called Fleet Ready Escort ship since October.
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    Since scaling back its surface combat fleet to 19 frigates and destroyers, the UK was having a hard time keeping up with this requirement while conducting military operations off the coast of Libya.
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    “I would hardly say it is a luxury. If there was a terrorism incident in UK waters, this would historically be the ship sent in to deal with it”, said former First Sea Lord Admiral Lord Alan West at the time. “It’s a big problem. If we haven’t got a ship ready to do this role then it’s worrying. It’s a very unsatisfactory position to be in”, he added.
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    This comes as the large dimensions of the type 45 destroyer and its 7,350-ton displacement, which makes it the heaviest combat ship in the British navy, make it a moving target for any missile battery as military experts say any attack with more than three cruise missiles has a good chance of hitting the vessel.
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    Moreover, the misery of the flawed equipment for the British navy is only worsened by the fact the personnel operating those equipment are not that professional either.
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    In March 2007, Iranian naval forces captured 15 British Royal Navy personnel for trespassing into the Iranian territorial waters off Iran-Iraq border coast.
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    Their capture dealt a heavy blow to Britain’s international standing after the royal navy personnel appeared in TV footage with their hands up in the air.
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    The sailors were later released on compassionate grounds after Iran broadcast their apology for trespassing Iranian territorial waters.
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    However, British policymakers have failed to learn a lesson from their past mistakes and their almost century-old animosities towards the Iranian nation and government.
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    It seems that the UK monarchs have easily forgotten the misery they created in Iraq following years of economic sanctions, military invasion and occupation under totally false pretexts.
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    This is while in Iran, people and officials take such ‘daunting’ moves by foreign powers including Britain with a pinch of salt.
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    Iran has recently showed off its military might in the Persian Gulf, the Sea of Oman and the northern Indian Ocean with the massive naval drill Velayat 90.
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    Iran’s Navy chief Habibollah Sayyari said on Wednesday December 28 that the country can easily shut the strategic Strait of Hormuz despite threats by the US and its western allies.
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    “Closing the Strait of Hormuz for Iran’s armed forces is really easy … it will be easier than drinking a glass of water,” Sayyari said.
    What went clearly shows Britain is nothing but a toothless old fox struggling to renew a long-lost splendor.

    MOL/AMR/HE
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/220152.html

  • Mark Golding - Children of Iraq

    Thanks Mary for the link – A report from Argyll is also interesting:
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    http://forargyll.com/2012/01/hms-daring-off-to-gulf-as-uk-and-usa-fail-to-remember-the-past/
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    ..the US Fifth Fleet is gingering up the situation with overt threats to Iran over any attempt to close the Strait of Hormuz and little Brit seems to be compelled to play bag-carrier in any American aggression. Rookie Defence Secretary, Philip Hammond, issued a warning of his own on action from Britain if Iran followed through with its threat on the Strait.
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    The significance of the Strait of Hormuz is that something lke 40% of the world’s oil is shipped out through this key waterway.
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    President George W Bush, with his Blair echo, were talking up potential conflict with Iran towards the end of their respective periods of power.
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    They were doing this in spite of the already known cost of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan – in lives, in the growing strength of terrorist factions and in money.
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    Since then we have seen the UK and NATO meddle in the affairs of countries in the Middle East – with no real understanding of their very different cultures and no intention of being around to help clear up the resulting chaos and stabilise the countries concerned.
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    This dangerously light-minded and light-fingered interference in other peoples’ business is far from the wishes of the UK electorate who are never consulted on such matters but who have to bear a cost – as Scotland knows – in growing vulnerability to revenge attacks from increasingly numerous organisations bred out of resentment.
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    The constant ratcheting up of a conflictual situation with Iran, the monstering of President Ahmadinejad – who may talk belligerence but acts with greater – and unrecognised – reasonableness, could neither be more irresponsible nor more potentially disastrous.
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    This is a very real and present danger for world stability in 2012 and the major national news media are virtually ignoring it. There is almost no public information on what is going on, no real analysis and no public concern. There should be.
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    Just as it was impossible to believe that, in the conflict in Kosovo, we were again seeing skeletal human beings in concentration camps, with our media uncritically parroting the obscene euphemism of ‘ethnic cleaning’, it is impossible today to credit that the USA and the UK are limbering up to monkey around in Iran.
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    President Obama has just announced cuts of half a million troops from the American forces – on the ironic grounds that ‘America can no longer fight the world’s wars’. The UK has, following the recent defence cuts, a seriously depleted and strained defence force – with neither aircraft carrier capability nor aircraft – bar some helicopters – to be carrier launched anyway; reductions in land based aircraft and airbases; and cuts in infantry numbers going through.
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    Yet out of this entire context we are acting provocatively and undiplomatically – because Iran has developed a nuclear capability. This is well beyond reason since the fact that Israel – the nation arguably most likely actually to use nuclear weapons if pushed, has long had such capability without such alarmism from the west.
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    It is a matter of real despair that, in 2012, we are so unevolved in adult relations between states and leaders that we can play such brutishly stupid games. But. hey – this is the year President Obama will fight to retain what has been a disappointingly unimpressive presidency – and one thing the USA and the UK have in common is an easily inflamed distrust of ‘Johnny Foreigner’.
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    With the powerful American Jewish lobby to be won over in a tricky election campaign, Obama’s bullish actions on Iran could be said to be gestures of reassurance to that influential internal body.
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    At what cost to the rest of us?

  • crab

    I didnt know what to make of the series behind those links until i scanned up to some naive claims about the capabilites of Nikolia Tesla who while undoubtedly was one of many great brilliant unconventional scientists, was constrained by the same physical difficulties, (and relatively primitive theory and equipment), as great engineers before and after him attempting such things as ‘teleforce’ ray guns and earth quaking ‘energy resonance oscillatiors’. The authors ability to scrutinise unusual technological claims is revealed as feeble in this particular part of the account at least.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Certainly what one would expect from a disinforming crab.

    I was asked to provide sources for my claims about America’s ability of make man-made disasters, especially in Asia, and I did it by supplying three links, and a personal statement about how and why the CIA took it seriously enough to try and kill me yet again.

    Instead of responding to this, Crab alludes to Nikolia (sic) Tesla’s research and inventions in the field – what I never mentioned in the material provided, only in other articles I have written on the subject, though my comments there are rather elementary as the development of lasers and HAARP’s ionospheric heater have never been analyzed in any coherent fashion.

    Moreover, my interest in the subject is solely about their use, not how they work in any detailed way.

    Little wonder that we are thus led around by our noses in the ongoing covert war by our oppressors.

  • crab

    Im sorry about that H Ford. I scanned through the material which you linked which i found remarkable but have little experience to tell apart from fiction (specific submarine maneuvers, stable continental plates dislodged by charges, arguments amongst admirals etc) But i found the statement of Teslas abilities so completely unsupportable considering the known history and theory of (Tesla’s and hundreds of others) electrical engineering, that it deserved flagging.
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    Perhaps concentrate on telling what you know first hand and be careful to demarkate what you know from what you speculate in areas beyond your familiarity such as Teslas capabilities, since without your admittance, i cannot then tell how many other parts of your account are also unreal elaboration. Good luck sincerely, im not knowingly a disinformer.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Is this the article you are complaining about – what appeared on codshit.com back in November 2005? If so, what is it that you don’t like about it?

    “Natural Disasters?
    by
    Trowbridge H. Ford

    Bertrand Russell concluded A History of Western Philosophy on this optimistic note: “In the welter of conflicting fanaticisms, one of the few unifying forces is scientific truthfulness, by which I mean the habit of basing our beliefs upon observations and inference as impersonal, and as much divested of local and temperamental bias, as is possible for human beings. To have insisted upon the introduction of this virtue into philosophy, and to have invented a powerful method by which it can be rendered fruitful, are the chief merits of the philosophical school of which I am a member….In abandoning a part of its dogmatic pretensions, philosophy does not cease to suggest and inspire a way of life.” (p. 836)

    For the first time since the classical Greek philosophers, according to Russell, philosophy, thanks to what has happened in science since Copernicus, had a proper method, modern analytical empiricism, by which it can slowly build up a theory of the nature world – what had traditionally been corrupted by the preconceptions and aims of moral and political thinkers. Coupled with quantum mechanics and Albert Einstein’s theory of relativity, physics was putting its house finally in order, and philosophy was following suit, promising a world where liberalism would hold sway, and mankind would flourish.

    Russell never revised and updated his tome, though he lived another quarter century, and the reason for it is not difficult to determine – the development of atomic weapons, and the possibility of mankind’s annihilation increasingly occupied his thoughts and actions. While the philosopher did not object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki – apparently because they shortened the war with Japan – he became alarmed about their possibilities, once the Soviets demonstrated that they too had the bomb. Russell never had any sympathy either in theory or practice with the Soviet Union, considering it only to be the latest and most virulent form of fanaticism.

    As Russell grew older, he became angrier as his more traditional betes noirs, adherence to traditional religion and their secular counterparts, ideologies, were replaced by the spiraling arms race between the superpowers and the chances of wars like in the one in Vietnam setting off their use for real. The Korean War became Russell’s alarm call as it showed the Soviet Union and Red China coming together in ways which could trigger nuclear annihilation. To stem the tide, Russell enlisted the dying Einstein in 1957 to join the Pugwash movement – an organization of scientists worldwide to force their governments to renounce nuclear weapons. Its conferences attempted to put on an institutional basis what Dr. Joseph Rotblat, a refugee Polish physicist in the Manhattan Project, did – resigned – when he learned that Hitler’s Germany was not pursuing its own bomb to win WWII.

    The American intervention in the Vietnamese civil war turned Russell’s opposition to it increasingly into nearly hysterical outbursts, as Alan Ryan has written in Bertrand Russell: A Politcal Life, but there was no reason in his concerns that Ryan was willing to admit. In 1961, Russell wrote Has Man a Future?, elaborating upon the threat because of the willingness of scientists to put their expertise to harmful uses. The Russian atomic scientists, led by Igor Kurchatov, had successfully exploded a hydrogen bomb of their own design on November 22, 1955. Then the Soviets produced a fusion reactor which had all kinds of military uses, especially being able to create massive amounts of neutrons on demand, and what could be directed on a target anywhere with the proper accelerator. And, of course, the USSR was well ahead of the West in the development of missiles for the delivery of atomic bombs.

    In this pressure-cooker atmosphere, the aims of Russell’s Pugswash movement had little chance of recruiting Soviet scientists until Stalin had departed the scene, and some kind of détente was achieved with Washington. When the Soviet Union felt comfortable enough about its situation to sign the Helsinki Accords on Security and Co-operation in Europe, its privileged scientists, notably Andrei Sakharov who designed its thermonuclear bomb and fusion reactor, were increasingly inclined to tell Moscow what should be done across the board to make sure the country was strong enough to ensure peace. Only by all Soviet citizens being able to speak their minds could the country be assured of reasonable policies in science and politics at home and abroad.

    Sakharov’s leadership of dissent brought all kinds critics, especially other scientists like P. L. Kapitsa, Lev Landau, Vladimir Bukovsky, and Yuri Orlov, of Soviet policy, to the fore. With the Helsinki Accords in place, the USSR promised to establish an environment where truths of all kinds could flourish instead of one where Moscow relied upon borrowed ideas, one way or another, from the West regarding accelerators, atomic energy, shortwave technology, jet propulsion and the like. The turning point had occurred when Kapitsa challenged the new leader Khurshchev in January 1955 on the way Moscow managed the whole scientific enterprise, starting with the revival of the study of genetics.

    The attitude of main-line Soviet scientists, though, was still best captured when Kurchatov was queried at a 1956 lecture in Britain about the chances of exchanging information on the possible peacetime uses of nuclear energy. Kurchatov had played catch-up too long with the West in the field – and would never have caught up if it had not been for the spying for Moscow by ‘K’ apparently aka SCOTT and Peter Wright, as I have written about him in the Trowbridge Archive – to take the proposal too seriously: “Kurchatov considered privately that the conception of science overstepping national frontiers,” his interpreter Malcolm Mackintosh related, “was inadmissible at the monent. He himself was a Russian first and a scientist second.” (Quoted from David Holloway, Stalin and the Bomb, p. 362.)

    Of course, the Americans were equally involved in developing the use of the whole spectrum of atomic waves for military purposes – everything from thermonuclear weapons to tabletop-sized, nuclear explosions, thanks to what lasers and accelerators could provide. American scientists became more and more America Firsters, though, as the process went on because of the fallout from the McCarthy era, and the deciphering of Soviet coded cables during WWII by the Venona Project. “Espionage saved the USSR great expense and industrial investment,” John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr concluded in Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America, “and thereby enable the Soviets to build a successful atomic bomb years before they otherwise would have.” (p. 333)

    The claims of the decoding, though, were kept secret for a half-century in order to keep the alleged culprits in line, and to make sure that they were not followed by other scientists as America faced the challenges of the 21st century. Thanks to what happened to scientists J. Robert Oppenheimer, Enrico Fermi, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Theodore Hall, Clarence Hiskey,Giovanni Lomanitz, Joseph Weinberg, Martin Kamen, David Bohm, Hyman Goldsmith, Morris Perelman, William Perl and many others – rightly or wrongly – the American scientific community learned the hard way to do whatever its employers asked, whether public or private, and never ask the reason why or complain to others, especially the press, about what was being attempted.

    As the survivors of investigative journalist Angus Mackenzie, who was struck down by a grand mal seizure on Christmas Eve 1992, concluded in finishing his Secrets: The CIA’s War at Home: “The United States is no longer the nation its citizens once thought: a place, unlike most others in the world, free from censorship and thought police, where people can say what they want, when they want to, about their government. Almost a decade after the end of the cold war, espionage is not the issue, if it ever really was. The issue is freedom…” (p. 202)

    While the development of missiles and nuclear weapons took the world to the brink of annihilation, as the Cuban Missile Crisis played itself out in October 1962, the threat of it realizing what the policy, mutually assured destruction (MAD), was intended to prevent led the superpowers to seek other weapons systems. While the covert operations against Cuba to precipitate a showdown with the Castro regime – making it look like it shot down John Glenn’s risky obiting the globe if the mission went belly up, like it attacked the American base at Guantanamo to expel the colonial power from the island, and the like – have been previously emphasized, Washington’s manipulation of Cuba’s weather – what it had been working on since 1947 when it was unsuccessful in diverting a hurricane from hitting Savannah especially increasing the power of hurricanes and tropical storms, was much more devastating.

    During the 1960s, the Atlantic Basin experienced a rising tide of hurricanes, with 6 occurring in 1961, 5 in 1964, and 3 in 1966. There were only 18 such storms during the 25-year period from 1944 to 1969. The timing of these waves of hurricanes is just too politically convenient for them not to have been deliberately made by covert government in Washington – right after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, the assassination of JFK which gave the green light to everything covert government could muster, and right after it become completely bogged down militarily in Vietnam. This is not to say that Washington created the tropical storms in the first place. It only intensified ones which suited its agenda, and guided them as best it could over Cuba.

    And there is no doubt that America had the capability to do these things if it wanted, and could have had the power to create earthquakes if it had so chosen. As Lt. Col. Thomas Bearden belatedly remarked at the 1981 US Psychotronics Association, all one had to do to make a tropical storm into a hurricane was to dephase the frequency of standing electromagnetic waves – what powerful lasers could do with new accelerators – into the air it was passing through.

    Psychotronics is broad program to direct people, objects or equipment through various software to do things contrary to their own programming. It was increasingly interested in hypnotizing operators from a remote distance instead of developing Nikola Tesla’s hardware, and Bearden was informing the public of what needed to be done while American inventors and operators were catching up with Moscow in the field.

    As go-for-broke Professor Gordon J. F. MacDonald of UCLA’s Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics explained 15 years before in his paper, “How to Wreck The Environment,” for a volume provocatively entitled Unless Peace Comes: “The key to geophysical warfare is the identification of environmental instabilities to which the addition of a small amount of energy would release vastly greater amounts of energy.” This knowledge and capability could result in engineering earthquakes, melting the polar ice cap, depleting the ozone layer, weather manipulation, climate modification, ocean wave control, and even brain wave manipulation of whole populations.

    Unfortunately, as Jonathan Vankin and John Whalen have indicated in The 60 Greatest Conspiracies, America chose MacDonald’s program in remote viewing instead of the other options. “In this way,” the mad Doctor explained, “one could develop a system that could seriously impair the brain peformance of very large populations in selected regions over an extended period….No matter how deeply disturbing the thought of using the environment to manipulate behavior for national advantages, to some, the technology permitting such use will very probably develop within the next few decades.” (Quoted from p. 435.)

    To give cover to the making of these hurricanes, and to come up with a means of preventing them if the need arose, Washington carried out Operation Stormfury, starting in 1962 – the project to seed storms with silver iodide, lead, and dry ice in the hope that they would prevent hurricanes from forming by breaking storms up by, on occasion, man-made tornadoes. The whole project was like many others in the scientific field where finding a remedy for something terrible – like stopping cults – necessitated the need of creating them for studying and testing correctives.

    When it came necessary to use the project in Vietnam to stop Vietcong transport on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, and to attack targets with greater cloud protection, the Air Force hid its transfer of the expensive capability from the Gulf by causing a great cloud to develop over Hispaniola, causing the inhabitants of Haita and the Dominican Republic to run in terror, fearing the end of the world.

    The effects of climate change by the superpowers were evident by the 1960s for all to see if only one had taken the time to look. The polar ice gaps and the ozone layers were starting to diminish, thanks of the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program – what would quicken when they, especially the Soviets,
    began attacking the areas with electromagnetic waves of certain frequencies, causing standing waves of devastating proportions. While scientists would belatedly claim that this was the result of using choroflurohyrocarbons, it was essentially the result of human efforts which cooked up a dangerous mixture of waves, sea water and sunlight, creating deadly side products of bromine and chlorine which degraded the ozone layers.

    The reason for these efforts was not just for immediate tactical success but also long-term strategic advantage. The US Navy, for example, helped melt down the ice cap over the North Pole so that Russian submarines of all types would have few places to hide in a Cold War showdown. Little wonder that it is now looking at an ice-free Northwest Passage in the near future, and wondering how to defend it. The USSR’s program Woodpecker has so warmed up Siberia, making its vast mineral deposits accessible, but the process has left Russia with the western part increasingly contaminated with methane, and the eastern part drying up like a desert. And they both have been monkeying around with the weather at the South Pole in the hope of gaining new resources – what only degraded further its ice cap and ozone layers.

    While this whole reckless process was going on, the Soviets, it seems, decided to increase its geo-political position by chopping down Mao Zedong’s China a peg with its new earthquake-making capability. No sooner had America withdrawn from South Vietnam than China’s leaderhip was confronted with the growing possibility of encirclement – the domino effect in reverse. While the Vietnamese were taking the measure of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, Leonid Brezhnev and KGB Chief Yuri Andropov settled scores with China’s Cultural Revolution, helping finish off its Old Guard in the process.

    The scene was set for the showdown when the Norwegians decided to award the Nobel Peace Prize to Sakharov right after Moscow had agreed to the Helsinki Accords – though he was prevented from leaving to country to accept it just to be on the safe side. Sakharov was too important to be allowed to leave, unlike Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn who had recently received the Nobel Prize for Literature. The Krelimin decided that in making a big stink over giving it to the noted scientist and human rights worker, it could create a smokescreen for a crippling attack on its upstart neighbor.

    By branding Skaharov as “Public Enemy Number One”, and taking the most crude measures to silence him and his supporters, especially his wife Elena Bonner, scientist Yuri Orlov, and Peter Wright’s one-time handler Vladimir Bukovsky, the Soviet leadership fixed the world’s attention on apparently another series of show trials, reminiscent of Stalin’s more paranoid days. (For a most ill-conceived analysis of the process, see Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, The Sword and the Shield, p. 322ff.)

    With the world’s attention fixed on whether Sakharov would too be tried, and Orlov, a leading candidate for another peace laureate, would soon follow, the Soviets apparently caused an 8.2 earthquake during the early morning of July 28, 1976 in the city of Tangshan, southeast of Peking, destroying nearly all of it, and half of its one million inhabitants. The earthquake came without any tremors, and at a time when all the preparations to render some disaster less destructive were useless because all the people were sleeping. Scientists did not think that such a powerful earthquake was possible for another century, given the area’s previous history.

    While Western scientists considered the quake a matter of nature simply taking its course, Chinese official were much more suspicious about its cause, though they too predicted the possibility of a moderate one occurring at the time. On the night before, people noticed strange lights -so-called ‘earthquake lights’ (“Tesla Effect”) – animals, fowl and fish were behaving in all kinds of strange ways, and underground water temperatures were completely abnormal. The earth was literally shaking, with intermitant flashes of light, before the quake finally struck. (For more on this, see the Chinese report, “Qinglong County and the 1976 Earthquake.”)

    Sino-Soviet relations immediately began to improve after the terrible disaster. The “Curse of 1976” was followed two months later by Mao’s death. Zhou Enlai and Zhu De had died a few months before the quake, and Mao’s followers, The Gang of Four, were badly embarrassed by not visiting the stricken site while charging Deng Xiaoping with having sabotated relief efforts. Mao’s titular successor Hua Guofeng and Chen Yonggui, who had made a personal visit to Tangshan on August 4th to survey the damage, then saw to the end of The Gang of Four and China’s isolation.

    In the January 1978 edition of Specula magazine, when the smoke from the disaster had settled, Andrija Puharich – an American doctor and lawyer deeply involved in the remote viewing program at his home, Turkey Farm, in Ossining, New York – published an article, entitled “Global Magnetic Warfare – A Layman’s View of Certain Artifically Induced Unusual Effects on the Planet Earth During 1976 and 1977,” charging that the Soviets had done it. “By interferometer techniques, giant standing waves,” he explained, “can be combined to produce a focused beam of very great energy.”

    Given Puharich’s close connections to the Agency, everyone apparently assumed that this was just some of its black propaganda, hiding perhaps what Washington had really done, and the CIA did what it could to bolster the claim by, it seems, burning down the Turkey Farm, targeting him for assassination on several occasions, and even killing him in 1995 apparently when the Clinton administration decided to go into the weather manipulation business big time. Until then, Washington was afraid to admit how far behind it was in the earthquake-making business for fear of terrorizing its citizens. Soviet defector Oleg Kalugin, for example, claimed in 1993 that the Soviets had tried to achieve the same results by attempting to plant nuclear weapons off America’s West Coast, and exploding them to create devastating results.

    It would have been a far different matter if Yuri Orlov, the Soviets’ expert on its particle accelerator projects, had been running around the world, talking about them in order to improve his credentials for the Nobel Peace Prize. Orlov was a troublemaking genius. The high energy physicist had formed the Moscow chapter of Amnesty International in 1973, causing his dismissal from Moscow’s Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism in 1976.

    While in “soft exile” in Armenia, he became such an important player in its particle accelerator projects at Yerevan that he was brought back to Moscow. There, instead of causing more trouble, though, he was soon arrested in February 1977, held in communicado for months, tried and sentenced to Siberia in May 1978, and only released in 1986 by Gorbachev after the showdown with America had passed without Armageddon – when he became a senior scientist in particle accelerator design, beam interaction analysis and quamtum mechanics at Cornell University’s Newman Laboratory for Elementary-Particle Physics.

    The only important thing which happened in this area in the interim was the buildup of the capability so what Washington could cause earthquakes on demand if the Cold War called for it – what was in the offing after Sweden’s statsminister Olof Palme was assassinated at the end of February 1986 in Stockholm. An Anglo-American conspiracy hoped that this would trigger a final showdown with Moscow, once its attack submarines started sinking Soviet nuclear ones when they hurriedly went on line after the surprise.Washington and London planned to start the air and land attack with America’s Operation Eagle joining NATO’s Anchor Express Exercise in an assault on the Kola Pennisula to convince Moscow that the gig was up, and if the Krelimin continued the hopeless struggle to follow up the assaults with massive earthquakes around the USSR. (See my articles about various aspect of this most complicated conspiracy in the Trowbridge Archive.)

    In 1993, Clinton’s White House agreed to testing its equipment by having an experimental one in Australia’s Great Victoria Desert. As Bill Bryson explained four years later in The New York Times: “The seismographic traces didn’t fit the profile of an earthquake or mining explosion, and anyway the blast was 170 times more powerful than the most powerful mining explosion ever recorded in Western Australia.” Bryson was most inclined to blame the explosion on a bomb built by the Japanese terrorists, the Aum Shinrikyo, since they conveniently owned property near the center of the explosion, though there was apparently no evidence of radiation.

    Bryson’s apparent disinformation induced Jason Jeffrey to write an article, “Earthquakes: Natural or Man-Made?”, for a 1999 issue of New Dawn magazine, taking issue with the claim that the Aum Shinrikyo group probably did it. By this time, America, it seems, had used the equipment for real, causing a 6.7 or greater earthquake in Izmit, Turkey on August 17, 1999 – a country paralyzed by no effective government, and not knowing where to turn. William Cohen, the Republican who recently had warned of the need of having such a capability, was running the Pentagon. As with the one in China, experts had recently predicted that there was only a 12% of one happening like this in the next 30 years. To add to the unreality of the analysis of the disaster, the US Geodetic Survey quoted from Ammianus Marcellines’s account of Izmit’s destruction by an earthquake in 358 A.D.

    As in the tragedy in Tangshan, Jeffrey described the piezolectric effect aka “Tesla Effect” just before it struck. Two days before it happened, fish and crustaceans in large amounts were found floating dead in the water, and nets and rocks were burned. “Furthermore,” Jeffrey added,” just before the quake, the bottom of the sea in Izmit went red and sea temperature went up to 40-45 degrees C. However, there are no underwater volcanoes in the Sea of Marmara.”

    About the test in the Australian desert, Jeffrey agreed with Harry Mason’s 19-page report – what was later published too in New Dawn magazine. Witnesses told him that “they saw the sky ablaze, heard loud explosions and felt the ground shake, in one case knocking beer cans off a table.” Mason was in no doubt that it was caused by “a very advanced eletromagnetic weapons system.” As for whose it could be, Jeffrey added: “And most worrying is mounting evidence that the US military now has the ability to create earthquakes – the ultimate weapon of war.”

    In the 21st century, the Pentagon has let it all hang out, as I have described in previous articles about the earthquakes in Bam, the Indian Ocean, and Pakistan, and hurricane Katrina – what Clinton too started with a new cycle on hurricanes for strategic purposes in 1995 – just when the Norwegians had finally recognized the efforts by Rotblat and the Pugwash movement for peace by awarding them the prize in 1999. In the period 1990-2004, there have been 269 hurricanes worldwide, an increase of over 50% from the previous 15-year period.

    Of course, I am not saying or implying that it has caused them all or even many of the devastating earthquakes and hurricanes, but it has caused enough to help bring on a period of violent weather whose conclusion no one can easily predict. And it will do no good to back away from what is happening, as Jeffrey did when he updated his thoughts about who or what was causing them after the Asian tsunami in December 2004 in a recent issue of New Dawn magazine by emphasizing what conspiracy theorists, especially Joe Vialls, were contending. But it won’t be pretty, and the American government has much to answer for helping make it happen.

  • crab

    The references to Tesla which i criticised appear plainly in the text published in the series on cryptome which you linked to before, just search/find “tesla” and you will arrive at least one sequence of purely fanciful assertions about Teslas capabilitie.
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    So, i begin reading the lengthy text posted here, wondering about the purpose of the long lofty intro – “setting a scene” it seems. Fine perhaps…
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    The very first claim concerning secret or unusual science i find you make is this:
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    “Of course, the Americans were equally involved in developing the use of the whole spectrum of atomic waves for military purposes – everything from thermonuclear weapons to tabletop-sized, nuclear explosions, thanks to what lasers and accelerators could provide. ”
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    No such thing as a “atomic waves” are known to science. Waves are by definition quite non-atomic. The associated language and concepts are not simple, because we do have *wave/particle duality*. Waves can be and are quantised as particles and particles are analysed with wave *functions*, mathematical constructs called ‘wavelets’ exists, but your “atomic waves” is not a coherent term.
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    By proposing such bare sci-fi as this and the existence of Teslas “telerays” and his “energy resonance oscillators” you reveal yourself to be poorly informed of actual scientific theory and history – and so who has the time in THIS war and greed torn REALITY, to untangle and follow the elabourations of a technically illiterate writer on the subject of secret science ????
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    Also this: “The best confirmation about their basic validity is that John Young’s cryptome site posted them all, and he agreed to have a private meeting with me…”
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    That is just pityful -give yourself a knock on the head. Getting published on cryptome is no confirmation of validy at all – i have read Young state this on the site itself, possibly in the wikileak email controversy.
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    I dont like being harsh and short with you n case you are sincere and troubled, but hardly anyone whos time is valuable, has any time to wade through such dense yet loose narrative. People with a liking for sci-fi and little study in science will muse over it happily. Find some clear skys, get away from whatever sources have your head spinning like this, read something nice, interesting, non ‘out-there’ just for a break.
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    If interested in secret science, begin with published science – its fucking incredible already. Best to you’

  • crab

    Really stupid, preachy of me to suggest the material has made your “head spin” though sir. It is beyond my ken.
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    To set off an earthquake?
    Use ground scanning radar spy sats or other sensing tech to discover stress patterns in crust, calculate positions on globe where disturbances can be magnified to cause an earthquake. Choose a method of disurbance,> bomb in a mine.. other.. futuristic modelling might be able to predict major details of slides intensity etc. but almost no control is possible over the outcome of the quake/s
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  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    You haven’t grasped a single idea I have expressed, going on and on with non-sequitors, especially the claim about what John Young claims about not believing anything which appears on cryptome.org – even government ones, and those which are clearly true.

    And why I mentioned meeting him was to say that he went out of his way for it, talking to me alone, while apparently recording the message, in the hope that I would confess to something after he said that the CIA was again trying to kill me for what I was writing, especially the series about man-made disasters.

    And if you had read the series, you would have known that I claimed that the radar laser satellites – what the Senate Intelligence Committee called unnecessary and most dangerous – caused them by exploiting qanats and other man-made cavities into the earth’s crust.

    Little wonder that you came back in the middle of the night with more rubbish.

    Must go to breakfast now, but look forward to more of the incoherent stuff.

  • crab

    No explaination of “atomic waves”…
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    Orbiting energy weapons are used to disturb formations buried hundreds and thousands of meters deep in solid earth to set off strategic earth quakes…
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    I do find it to be technicaly illiterate sci-fi, never mind the crypto fanzine and the namechecked mad scientists and maneuvering admirals. I doubt you will find much other discussion of it on this Human Rights blog. There is far too much shit to be getting on with here in the real world.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    You are not only scientifically illiterate but more importantly also even how to scan the worldwide web.

    Here is a link about how atoms are also waves as well as particles but you seem to know nothing about Rutherford, De Broglie and the revolution in atomic science:

    http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/quantumzone/debroglie.html

    And there are many more.

    I am not a physical scientist, only a political scientist who uses what the government-employed scum provide for their paying,
    political bosses.

    Cannot waste more time on your deliberate, most likely feigned, insulting ignorance.

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